Took the words right out of my mouth...Man. You've helped me big time. Just couldn't find the key to get in and tune, and you had the answer! A very thoughtful and informative video. Thanks for this!
Many thanks for this video! I've been using Logic for about a year now and always wondered what the Producer Kits were... now I know and will def be using them for demos! 👍🏼
This is SIIIIIIIICKK! I can't believe I never knew about this, I never need to record live drums again. Thank you! Even though I love playing drums, this is an absolute game changer! Maybe I need to get an electric kit again, to hook up the MIDI
I have been teaching myself this in the last few days ...its so good if you apply the right effects to each individual drum. i have found the Bonham snare sound by trying different compression and reverb effects.
Thanks for this video. This method differs from mine but yours is much better so I have now written up for future reference. I had previously been selecting Multi-Out Drumkit Designer from the Instrument Button menu and not from the Library. If you don't use the Library, Logic doesn't automatically create the track stack for you. One other important thing I discovered was that you must keep the buses that Logic automatically generates or the Solo button on the Drumkit track stack header does not work. If you want to send the drums to your own drum bus, don't change the individual outs of each drum, do it from the output button on the header track of the Drumkit Track Stack. It took me about 5 hours to discover this.
Man. You have helped me BIG TIME! I use logic producer kit, The Blue bird. Lovely. Great to have a mixer and eq etc. This has changed it for me! The over head strip! Changing toms snares etc. Thank you very very much for this. Much respect buddy. I was nearly buying other software. A saviour sir. Peace (:
I wanted to dig into these producer kits because they sound more like real drums depending on your midi data. To add to this great video, I took an older set of midi tracks with separate midi regions for each drum, joined the midi regions into a single combined region, then dragged that region onto a producer kit and it sounds so much better overall. I did use the same kit throughout (SoCal). Expand the stack and voila, when you compare the two approaches there's no denying that the producer kit sounds much more natural. Plus the bonus of tweaking stuff as described above. Thanks again for the great vid.
Hey man great video and great drum beat drum kit designer is great and I love the producer kits i did a few drum kit designer tutorials on my channel as well keep up the great work man and keep making great music sounds great man
Hey man great video and great sound drums keep up the great work and keep making great music your doing a great job if you need any mixing tips I do a lot of stuff on mixing on my channel your doing great keep it up man
Do you have any videos showing how to record idi drums? I want to add parts separately section per section. Adding and deleting parts. I am so used to a drum machine. Thanks.
@Judson Imran Flixzone is a horrible site. It phished all the email contacts off my phone and I had to change all my passwords as the site "Flixzone" scanned my phone and saw all my personal details! I know this because my bank contacted me and said that my account had been breached by an IP related to "Flixzone". I am also aware that you and Ricky Cory are connected if not the same person.
At the end, you showed the Drum Kit Designer Room A/B switch for the Overhead track's Smart Control editor. I'm using the SoCal+ producer kit. I tried panning Room A hard left and Room B hard right, then with those two tracks solo'd, I switched A/B switch in that Smart Control Editor to hear what I heard from Room A (right) and Room B (left). With the aforementioned panning and Room A selected, I heard the Room A track in the right channel only (as expected). But when I switched to Room B in the Drum Kit Designer, I get the snare and cymbals on the right (Room A track panned hard right) and the kick on the left (Room B track panned hard left.) Is that what you get, and do you know the purpose of it?
Hello Jay and thanx for the videos. I can't find anywhere brushes for the snares for a relaxed feel. I guess I could find them in some of the loops. Any Idea ?
Hi. Very nice, informative video. I had one question though. Among all the individual tracks, there is a track called “Pump”. What is the purpose of that? And how do I use it?
That must be a new feature! As far as I can see it's just a pre-made track for bus compression. In the Brooklyn+ kit for example, it looks like the overheads, kick and snare are all being sent to that "PUMP" track. To learn more, look up tutorials that explain sends and busses, bus compression and compression in general. Hope this helps!
So what are the kits in the Producer Kits folder that don't appear in the enclosing folder? (eg, Old School+) - are they just a name given to a custom combination of drum swaps and settings? - if I look in the track stack of the Old School+ kit there's a Drum Kit Designer Plug-in and it just says 'default kit' along with a menu of 10 basic kits on the left in the Library (Birch Kit, Classic Sixties Kit, Modern Maple Kit, Pawn Shop Kit, Seventies Plexi Kit, Stadium Kit, Studio Kit, Tight Maple Kit, Vintage Kit Brushes, Vintage Kit Rods) - it's a little confusing.
Hi! Great video! I'm new to LPX can you produce something that is "publishable and sellable" entirely on LPX? I mean, can you mix n master all here? Thanks!
I bought an Alesis Surge Mesh like 4 mos ago and it works fantastic with Logic X!! All you need is a USB interface cable which you can get off Amazon for $6. a.co/7PstxNZ I live in a small apartment so I can still record/play or whatever/whenever....the producer kits are awesome!!
I'm loving mine as well! I got it about a month ago. :) Do you have any tips on adding a pad from different kits into my set? For example, I'll be using one of the producer kits, but if I'd like to have a clave block on one of my rims, would that be possible? Thanks for your response!
Christian Bjork man good question!! I believe the dual-zone capabilities no longer work when the drums go in midi. You can get a stereo out cable to Logic and it will keep the dual-zone features but you won't be able to adjust the levels on the entire kit separately, which is a deal-breaker for me haha...I have to be able to mix EVERYTHING separately. I am still looking into that feature tho because I really want to use the same things you do!!
wow with these kits imho Logic is almost head to head with Superior and BFD, it even has pseudo leakage! I came back to Logic after a year on Ableton. Did this come bundled with the new GUI overhaul? Or was it always there and I never explored it? lol. What a time to come back to LPX
sometimes I get scared how deep Logic can go and how much hidden content there is to explore. I seriously need to take a week off to read the manual beginning to end haha
When an actual drum kit is miced up, the overhead microphones are the ones that pick up that cymbals, so the 'cymbal track' is basically just the overheads
The only thing I'm missing is the ability, as in the non-producer kits, to swap out snares and stuff. In this kit you are stuck with the single snare sound, or 2 as per the midi kit. I want to be able to swap out drums!!!
If I ‘tweak’ a kit by raising and lowering volumes on drums and cymbals etc. can I then save it and give it a name so I can return to it in another song?
Hey Jay, Many of my dual-trigger pad signals like hi-hat shoulder, tom rims, cymbal edges, and cymbal bell sounds don't seem to be coming across midi into Logic Pro X from the V-drums. Surely there must be an easy way to add these sounds to the Logic kit (Bluebird or SoCal for example), split the signal, or otherwise "fix" the problem, but I can't seem to find it. Any advise you have would be greatly appreciated. Cheers,
Okay but there seems to be a step missing when I try this (Logic X 10.3.3). Nothing happens when I click the Producer kit (with + sign). Do you need to create that looped kit from the designer FIRST or just import the producer kit?
I set this up with my Yamaha dtx500 kit but both of my cymbals are triggering the “ride” cymbal on the logic kit , anyone know how to change that? I’m basically playing with 2 ride cymbals and no crash :/
Sorry to hear you're having this issue Samy! How are you hooking it up to Logic? If you're sending the signal out from a module, the issue might just that both cymbals are sending the same midi signal to the computer and you just have to switch the one that you don't want to be a ride to another channel. If you're not sure how to change midi channels for each element of the kit, it'll surely be in the manual :)
Jay Crafton on my module the crash and ride are labeled and in separate channels , I’ll see if I can change the settings somehow, I bought this kit used so I’ll have to do some research , thank you for getting back to me though
does anybody know how to readdress drum sounds to different keys on a midi keyboard? I've found a video explaining but I found it so complex that I just gave up. My midi keyboard is so small that I feel the need of remapping the original GM in order to get a more comfortable arrangement to play. Hope someone has a video or something. =/
Is there a way to bounce in place (making the midi into audio file) with the producer tracks? I can bounce in place with other kind of midi - including drumkits - but not the producer kits (those with a +). Why is that and does anybody have a good workaround for it?
Benjamin Ømann yes there is a way right click on your drum track and then somewhere in that menu that pops up there will be something I forget what it’s called but you will have to look it will be in the midi area
Michael Diaz all you have to do is at the top of the screen On the left side you should see 3 buttons line in a row one of those buttons is it and it will open the smart controls hope this was helpful
I'm not sure, sorry! I know that Garageband has been really watered down since the last time I used it though. The '09 iLife version was quite capable!
So here's what I learned on my own not covered in this video: 1. Create a "drummer track" and choose a drummer you want; 2. Click on that newly created drum track; 3. double click on Producer Kit 4. This will create an arrow in the drum track field - you need to click that to see/open up the "track stack." You're welcome.
Hi Jay, thanks for making this tutorial, really appreciate it. I mapped my V-Drums as an instrument using this as a guide ruclips.net/video/9wo_w9b3LbQ/видео.html Based on this configuration, do you know a way I can bounce midi data to individual audio tracks that I can send to someone to mix in another daw? Thanks in advance for any tips /suggestions!
I've always done it manually. As an example, let's say there are five elements in our midi performance: Kick, Snare, Tom 1, Tom 2 and Overheads. I would duplicate the complete midi performance with the drummer plugin to five separate tracks, naming each track after each element. For the Kick track, I would delete all the midi data that isn't a kick; on the Snare track, I would delete all the midi data that isn't a snare; rinse and repeat for the rest of the elements. You'll then be left with five separate tracks with isolated midi data. You can then just bounce them in place or export them like normal to convert them into audio files that you can then send to someone for mixing. Hope this helps!
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Took the words right out of my mouth...Man. You've helped me big time. Just couldn't find the key to get in and tune, and you had the answer! A very thoughtful and informative video. Thanks for this!
Many thanks for this video! I've been using Logic for about a year now and always wondered what the Producer Kits were... now I know and will def be using them for demos! 👍🏼
One of the best vids for recording electric drums yet !!!! Thanks so much !
This is SIIIIIIIICKK! I can't believe I never knew about this, I never need to record live drums again. Thank you! Even though I love playing drums, this is an absolute game changer! Maybe I need to get an electric kit again, to hook up the MIDI
I like your style Jay, to the point very practical - hope you make more tutorials!
Thanks man! I try on 3 tutorials before stopping on yours! Great Job
Excellent! Thanks for posting this. Really well explained
Amazing Jay! More power to you buddy!
Thank god! you are awesome! I have been trying to figure out this all night
Glad I could help!
I have been teaching myself this in the last few days ...its so good if you apply the right effects to each individual drum. i have found the Bonham snare sound by trying different compression and reverb effects.
Thanks for this video. This method differs from mine but yours is much better so I have now written up for future reference. I had previously been selecting Multi-Out Drumkit Designer from the Instrument Button menu and not from the Library. If you don't use the Library, Logic doesn't automatically create the track stack for you. One other important thing I discovered was that you must keep the buses that Logic automatically generates or the Solo button on the Drumkit track stack header does not work. If you want to send the drums to your own drum bus, don't change the individual outs of each drum, do it from the output button on the header track of the Drumkit Track Stack. It took me about 5 hours to discover this.
Wow ! I'll see that.
Thanx for the scoop..
That's really great !
An excellent tutorial. Thank you.
Concise! Well done.
Man. You have helped me BIG TIME! I use logic producer kit, The Blue bird. Lovely. Great to have a mixer and eq etc. This has changed it for me! The over head strip! Changing toms snares etc. Thank you very very much for this. Much respect buddy. I was nearly buying other software. A saviour sir. Peace (:
So glad I could help! :)
Larry Jonson the drum kit designer in Logic is awesome and the blue bird kit that’s in it sounds awesome
Yes, very glad you added the footnote at the end....,swapping out instruments on the producer kit is a BIG + (no pun intended)
very helpful thanks, much better than the other drum kits
Very helpful! Thanks so much!
I wanted to dig into these producer kits because they sound more like real drums depending on your midi data. To add to this great video, I took an older set of midi tracks with separate midi regions for each drum, joined the midi regions into a single combined region, then dragged that region onto a producer kit and it sounds so much better overall. I did use the same kit throughout (SoCal). Expand the stack and voila, when you compare the two approaches there's no denying that the producer kit sounds much more natural. Plus the bonus of tweaking stuff as described above. Thanks again for the great vid.
That's a great way to bring some old tracks back to life for sure. I don't know how I used to work without em! Thanks for the comment.
Excellant Info thank you you saved me months of trial and mostly error :>)
8:29 thank you! Exactly what I was looking for
Same, I was really annoyed cos I thought I could only change out the lick and snare in the drum kit designer
nice simple, informative video. Thank you!
This at 8:30 is actually the one thing I wanted to know. "How do I access the plug-in in a producer kit?!" Glad you caught that.
Thank You! I finally understand! 🤩
Thanks for the great vid!!
awesome tutorial
Thank you Jay perfect!
Hey man great video and great drum beat drum kit designer is great and I love the producer kits i did a few drum kit designer tutorials on my channel as well keep up the great work man and keep making great music sounds great man
awesome vid! Thanks
Thanks for this bro.. subbed!
Hey man great video and great sound drums keep up the great work and keep making great music your doing a great job if you need any mixing tips I do a lot of stuff on mixing on my channel your doing great keep it up man
Excellent
Good job!
super knowledgable :)
thank you!
Thank you!!
thats cool... thanks!
This is crazy yow !!!!
Could you also do a video on custom mapping each drum sounds?
Thanks for the video. I’m half way there. After expanding the drum stack track, how do I see the individual sound waves for each part of the drum kit,
Do you have any videos showing how to record idi drums? I want to add parts separately section per section. Adding and deleting parts. I am so used to a drum machine. Thanks.
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My drummer has just had her kit taken away! She will now learn how to play with my MIDI and the producer kit!
Flixzone is a great phishing site indeed. I'd rather give my bait to Sockshare.
@Judson Imran Flixzone is a horrible site. It phished all the email contacts off my phone and I had to change all my passwords as the site "Flixzone" scanned my phone and saw all my personal details! I know this because my bank contacted me and said that my account had been breached by an IP related to "Flixzone". I am also aware that you and Ricky Cory are connected if not the same person.
At the end, you showed the Drum Kit Designer Room A/B switch for the Overhead track's Smart Control editor. I'm using the SoCal+ producer kit.
I tried panning Room A hard left and Room B hard right, then with those two tracks solo'd, I switched A/B switch in that Smart Control Editor to hear what I heard from Room A (right) and Room B (left). With the aforementioned panning and Room A selected, I heard the Room A track in the right channel only (as expected). But when I switched to Room B in the Drum Kit Designer, I get the snare and cymbals on the right (Room A track panned hard right) and the kick on the left (Room B track panned hard left.) Is that what you get, and do you know the purpose of it?
Hello Jay and thanx for the videos. I can't find anywhere brushes for the snares for a relaxed feel. I guess I could find them in some of the loops.
Any Idea ?
Hi Jason! The Blue Ridge+ and Speakeasy+ kits both have brush like samples by default.
Hi. Very nice, informative video. I had one question though. Among all the individual tracks, there is a track called “Pump”. What is the purpose of that? And how do I use it?
That must be a new feature! As far as I can see it's just a pre-made track for bus compression. In the Brooklyn+ kit for example, it looks like the overheads, kick and snare are all being sent to that "PUMP" track. To learn more, look up tutorials that explain sends and busses, bus compression and compression in general. Hope this helps!
Can you perform with this type of Producer Kit in Mainstage 3?
Hi is there any way to combine parts of the acoustic drum kits with parts of the electronic kits. I mean into one single kit. Thanks.
So what are the kits in the Producer Kits folder that don't appear in the enclosing folder? (eg, Old School+) - are they just a name given to a custom combination of drum swaps and settings? - if I look in the track stack of the Old School+ kit there's a Drum Kit Designer Plug-in and it just says 'default kit' along with a menu of 10 basic kits on the left in the Library (Birch Kit, Classic Sixties Kit, Modern Maple Kit, Pawn Shop Kit, Seventies Plexi Kit, Stadium Kit, Studio Kit, Tight Maple Kit, Vintage Kit Brushes, Vintage Kit Rods) - it's a little confusing.
Hi! Great video! I'm new to LPX can you produce something that is "publishable and sellable" entirely on LPX? I mean, can you mix n master all here? Thanks!
Of course! Logic is a very capable program. I'd argue it's at least on par with Pro Tools.
How can you change the snares like in none producer kit ?... Really want a brush snare in a producer kit.....
I'm thinking of buying an Alesis Surge E.Drum kit... would I be able to trigger these drums from that module? Thanks so much, amazing video!
I bought an Alesis Surge Mesh like 4 mos ago and it works fantastic with Logic X!! All you need is a USB interface cable which you can get off Amazon for $6. a.co/7PstxNZ I live in a small apartment so I can still record/play or whatever/whenever....the producer kits are awesome!!
I'm loving mine as well! I got it about a month ago. :) Do you have any tips on adding a pad from different kits into my set? For example, I'll be using one of the producer kits, but if I'd like to have a clave block on one of my rims, would that be possible? Thanks for your response!
Christian Bjork man good question!! I believe the dual-zone capabilities no longer work when the drums go in midi. You can get a stereo out cable to Logic and it will keep the dual-zone features but you won't be able to adjust the levels on the entire kit separately, which is a deal-breaker for me haha...I have to be able to mix EVERYTHING separately. I am still looking into that feature tho because I really want to use the same things you do!!
Hi Jay - wondering how to replace JUST THE KICK (not the whole kit) with the Producer Kit? Is that possible? Thanks
Yes! Just go into the "Overheads" track and click on the blue Drum Kit Button. You can change out any element of the kit here :)
wow with these kits imho Logic is almost head to head with Superior and BFD, it even has pseudo leakage! I came back to Logic after a year on Ableton. Did this come bundled with the new GUI overhaul? Or was it always there and I never explored it? lol. What a time to come back to LPX
Turns out it's always been there! At least for a few years now.
sometimes I get scared how deep Logic can go and how much hidden content there is to explore. I seriously need to take a week off to read the manual beginning to end haha
Thank you very much! but I am wondering why there are no Cymbal track?
When an actual drum kit is miced up, the overhead microphones are the ones that pick up that cymbals, so the 'cymbal track' is basically just the overheads
Any way to make the producer kits the default and just not bother with the basic versions?
The only thing I'm missing is the ability, as in the non-producer kits, to swap out snares and stuff. In this kit you are stuck with the single snare sound, or 2 as per the midi kit. I want to be able to swap out drums!!!
If I ‘tweak’ a kit by raising and lowering volumes on drums and cymbals etc. can I then save it and give it a name so I can return to it in another song?
Can someone confirm if, whether or not you're able to record onto the individual assigned drum track after summing it in the arraignment window?
Best thing to do is get what you want on one of the basic kits... change it to midi then just pop it into a producer kit.
Hey Jay, Many of my dual-trigger pad signals like hi-hat shoulder, tom rims, cymbal edges, and cymbal bell sounds don't seem to be coming across midi into Logic Pro X from the V-drums. Surely there must be an easy way to add these sounds to the Logic kit (Bluebird or SoCal for example), split the signal, or otherwise "fix" the problem, but I can't seem to find it. Any advise you have would be greatly appreciated. Cheers,
Have you tried clicking the little triangle at the bottom left of the plugin window and changing the input mapping to V-Drum?
Yes, It worked perfectly, thank you. Using the producer kits you mentioned seemed to help too, thanks for the great vids and comment.
Cheers
Wonderful! Glad I could help :)
once a drum part is expanded to have all these separate tracks why cant we see the separated notes in each parts' workspace?
So if I use a producer kit I don't need to use separate tracks for each drum?
The opposite. Producer kits allow you to process each individual element of the kit on its own track.
so do you to have that first drum track in place before you add the producer kit or? Unclear
You can load a producer kit patch onto any track, with or without midi information on it.
Okay but there seems to be a step missing when I try this (Logic X 10.3.3). Nothing happens when I click the Producer kit (with + sign). Do you need to create that looped kit from the designer FIRST or just import the producer kit?
Just found it - you might mention that arrow that needs clicking to open up the track strack just sayin - lots of us are brand new to all this
I set this up with my Yamaha dtx500 kit but both of my cymbals are triggering the “ride” cymbal on the logic kit , anyone know how to change that? I’m basically playing with 2 ride cymbals and no crash :/
Sorry to hear you're having this issue Samy! How are you hooking it up to Logic? If you're sending the signal out from a module, the issue might just that both cymbals are sending the same midi signal to the computer and you just have to switch the one that you don't want to be a ride to another channel. If you're not sure how to change midi channels for each element of the kit, it'll surely be in the manual :)
Jay Crafton on my module the crash and ride are labeled and in separate channels , I’ll see if I can change the settings somehow, I bought this kit used so I’ll have to do some research , thank you for getting back to me though
does anybody know how to readdress drum sounds to different keys on a midi keyboard? I've found a video explaining but I found it so complex that I just gave up. My midi keyboard is so small that I feel the need of remapping the original GM in order to get a more comfortable arrangement to play. Hope someone has a video or something. =/
Do you have a transpose function in your keyboard? That will make things much easier, and smaller keyboards tend to have use.
Can you separate out the individual drum sounds ... that would be cool.
I would think convert to midi, then use piano roll editor.
Is there a way to bounce in place (making the midi into audio file) with the producer tracks?
I can bounce in place with other kind of midi - including drumkits - but not the producer kits (those with a +).
Why is that and does anybody have a good workaround for it?
You could try soloing the drums and bouncing out the entire song. That's what I would do if bounce in place wasn't working! :)
Benjamin Ømann yes there is a way right click on your drum track and then somewhere in that menu that pops up there will be something I forget what it’s called but you will have to look it will be in the midi area
I'm trying to figure out how to get that smart control option in 6:50 evertime I double click the drums nothing pops out. Someone please help
Michael Diaz all you have to do is at the top of the screen On the left side you should see 3 buttons line in a row one of those buttons is it and it will open the smart controls hope this was helpful
You can insert just press on the button on the left of the mixer button at the top left.
How many of these features are on GarageBand?
I'm not sure, sorry! I know that Garageband has been really watered down since the last time I used it though. The '09 iLife version was quite capable!
GB won’t go this in depth - but it does do the simpler Drummer tracks. No producer kits or summed track stacks, though. Also way fewer drum samples.
So here's what I learned on my own not covered in this video: 1. Create a "drummer track" and choose a drummer you want; 2. Click on that newly created drum track; 3. double click on Producer Kit 4. This will create an arrow in the drum track field - you need to click that to see/open up the "track stack." You're welcome.
For what? Lol
Hi Jay, thanks for making this tutorial, really appreciate it. I mapped my V-Drums as an instrument using this as a guide ruclips.net/video/9wo_w9b3LbQ/видео.html Based on this configuration, do you know a way I can bounce midi data to individual audio tracks that I can send to someone to mix in another daw? Thanks in advance for any tips /suggestions!
I've always done it manually. As an example, let's say there are five elements in our midi performance: Kick, Snare, Tom 1, Tom 2 and Overheads. I would duplicate the complete midi performance with the drummer plugin to five separate tracks, naming each track after each element. For the Kick track, I would delete all the midi data that isn't a kick; on the Snare track, I would delete all the midi data that isn't a snare; rinse and repeat for the rest of the elements. You'll then be left with five separate tracks with isolated midi data. You can then just bounce them in place or export them like normal to convert them into audio files that you can then send to someone for mixing. Hope this helps!
I may make a video about this at some point.
I’ll give it a try, thanks so much! Really appreciate it!
You helped me so much!
thanks man!