Lydon’s wife has Alzheimer’s. He loves her very much and is devoted to taking care of her. He wants to keep her home, not send her to some kind of nursing home. He’s a good man. He’s an excellent example of not judging a book by its cover. God bless him.
Oh yeah,Nora has Alzheimer and I feel so sorry for Johnny💖 and two of his brothers have cancer.Johnny is a very good man & very kind hearted.God bless him and his family💝💝💝
R.I.P Keith Levene, one of the most influential, and unique guitarists of all time. He's easily in my top 5 guitarists of all time. I never got the chance to see perform live, but he use to live in my hometown, I would see him walk around in the town centre, I never went up to him geeking like a school girl, or asked for his autograph, but i'd be in awe of him. My thoughts are with his family.
But he was "selling out", by 1) Saying PiL (the clue is in the name) is a company not a band. 2) Going in for the experimental music that Lydon had explictedy deride during his time in the Pistols. It's really not 'rocket science' to understand, just more like 'cognitive dissonance' if you can't.
@@sunnyjim1355 if you think PIL sold out, in that era, you are clearly deluded, and its not rocket science to think otherwise despite your "cognitive dissonance" bollox you print.........
you are correct Dylan Kidd, and that someone was from angelic upstarts who having jumped on the bandwagon, failed to get anywhere near PIL. If country and western was fashionable in 77/78, the upstarts would have all bought themselves horses...
Hardly being trapped on a show that's asking about the new group image and their musical direction. Very basic really. He never really said much in interviews and anything that provoked an interesting response was met with his fake hard man stare down and jaw jutting which resulted in him usually saying "next question". Fair play for making a career of it though
@@blueblood3108 except what do you expect? They literally had a bunch of nobody’s slag him and his band off for 5 minutes and expected him to be civil and answer their stupid questions which of themselves showed how out of touch they were with PIL and the punk movement by 1979.
@@blueblood3108 oh yeah those interviewers were so innocent. they just had a clip of some douchebag talking shit about Johnny Rotten lined up to show him and his band while on the air. I wonder why they would do that cause they seemed so friendly.
Well..., you are right in that they were NOT parroting 77 Punk (which is nice & brave of them),..., but the "Absolutely Revolutionary" statement is a little over the top, I´m afraid. They sound like a SLOPPY, LEAST TALENTED, VERSION of what the german band CAN had been doing since 1968. Same thing, only NOT half as good.
@@chrisjames6327 100% agree. Chant has frantic and dissonant guitar playing which helps convey the feelings of mob mentality (especially during riots), hence the lyrics "mob, war, feel hate." Keith's sloppy playing was done intentionally, but unfortunately some people just can't think deeply enough to understand the ideas in the music. Plus, their style was actually quite revolutionary as it would go on to influence a lot of different experimental music later on, especially some of what was being done in post-punk. Sure the music itself isn't necessarily as skillful or as calculated as CAN's music, but these were punk rockers at heart who were putting their own spin on experimental music. It was all quite artful, and definitely boundary pushing for its time.
So sad to hear today that Keith Levene has died. This incredible performance is a fitting testament to his extraordinary talent. A true original and a massive inspiration to everyone of the punk/post-punk generation. He will be very sorely missed.
You never listen to word that I said, You only seen me For the clothes that I wear, or did the interest go so much deeper It must have been the colour of my hair.
They watched a group of nobodies dissing them, and then expected to just sit there. Nice to actually see the uneditted version where it shows the programme as being the arseholes and not PIL, as over the years you were meant to think.
C'mon, lok the band were being total pretentious, arseholes. I love them as much as you but Lydon had this almost personality disorder. This has be borne out in subsequent interviews. But I still find it hilarious!
TurntablesRockmyworld et al...Like yourself I thought PIL when they were a band '78-'81 were great (so were 'Pistols)... Wobble & Levene have 'grown up'...Lydon never has ..for 40yrs now if not praised he doesn't engage, makes statements, stares ,goes silent , does "look I'm from Finsbury Park ,so I know" act or bullies with his 'mates'/minders... ...( I also highly rated the 'Upstarts & SLF live & on record '78-'80)...but this is 12mins of 'all in cringing embarrassment' for everybody involved...
@@andchat6241 Yes, I agree. Watch Lydon in this clip with a punk round-table with Tommy Ramone, Henry Rollins, Duff Mckagan. Just cringeworthy: narcissist, cringeworthy, rude,ugly etc. Hard to watch. Like the drunk old guy in the pub that everyone is trying to avoid. ruclips.net/video/HhVZLL1pMQ0/видео.html
No staged reality but real life and art. This is TV at its very best, but unfortunatley these times are long gone. And what a performance by the best PIL line-up
I love how whenever this is used in other documentaries it’s chopped down to try and show Wobble and Lydon as volatile and arsey people, but as the old Guardian advert says it’s only when you get the full picture that you can fully understand what’s going on! Thanks for this upload it’s invaluable!!!!
@@danielaschwarz1971 ..exactly ..in the same way Lydon would call virtually anybody in a band pre 1976 'a boring old fart'..... Andy Blade of Eater (with their 14 year old drummer, Dee Generate) called the Pistols 'too old!'
Thanks for posting the entire thing. It's extremely rare and people judged the band for being rude to the interviewers, but they didn't know the full context.
Definitely unfair to have put up the cut down version previously that makes Lydon look like he was being an awkward twat for no reason. This shows how the TV show was trying to wind him up to get a reaction, cheap 'gotcha' publicity stunt, just plain rude and ignorant way to treat a guest.
It’s absurd how many so called “journalists” back then would treat Lydon and other controversial artists of the time like dirt and with no respect or courtesy. When he was in the pistols he was already under constant scrutiny for being honest and raw, but when the idea of punk became trendy, and the label itself proved marketable for the media to use, artists like John and company were accused of not being punk enough, (whatever that means). It’s so brutally epic how he takes the crap they constantly threw at him and gave it right back. It’s also pretty funny how in the thumbnail he almost looks cheery and amicable.
I just came back and watched this two years after first seeing it, and the thing I find the most shocking is that PIL sat there and watched the crap interview with that Angelic Upstart nobody. That showed true patience! Total setup by the show, and I'm amazed they stuck around as long as they did.
One of my favs too and an influence on my playing. I also play bass and Jah Wobble is a big influence when it comes to that instrument. I wish Jah Wobble stayed with the band for it's entirety. Same with Keith levene. I can only imagine the things they could've done.
"The Lydon Death Glare!" I've liked you since I've been 14 John. Still honest and still making music. Some people blamed Lydon for not dying and thriving. Good on you John! Why did they follow some nitwit shouting his mouth off?
My first time seeing the whole thing.. He had every right to be pissed off..they didn't want the full band in the interview..then proceed to show a video of someone talking shit about him...I would have busted that TV..
There would be no angelic upstairs without Sex Pistols or Lydon That name is really dumb too My hope is angelic upstairs are in some nursing home right Now
That's the whole point, you moron... to get you to feel empathy for the 'under dog'. Now our whole society is based on 'victimhood' because of idiots like you.
I seriously think that he was considering trashing the TV. This was very low and disrespectful treatment of any band or singer. Invite on a show and play a 10 minute video of a nasty, critical, and jealous person that has nothing good to say. I'd of walked off, too. Even sooner.
I wish I could like this 50 times. The Angelic upstarts cutting a promo on Lydon was golden. The tune PiL did was epic too. And the hapless 1979 presenters were hilariously lame. And the iceing on the cake was the ending credits music. Perfect lols👌
Most significant thing about Keith Levene was, he got bored with The Clash and how right he was. A truly magnificent guitarist on his day, thanks for the arpeggios mate.
Wow... Amazing. Only ever seen the couple of minutes this is famous for, and having seen the rest of it, it gives a lot of context. They were on a stitch-up job they were probably planning for weeks. Good on PiL for digging in there and not standing for it.
This was amazing to see the full thing finally. I've seen the this PIL interview before with Johnny losing it but now it's clear why. A classic, just like the Grundy from '76! 😂🤣
Two extra bits. The interviewer was Chris Cowey reportedly in his first ever tv interview. The woman is Lyn Spencer. She was previously at teacher training college with Sting, and when the Police appeared on the show he reportedly tore her off a strip for her part in this travesty of an interview.
Not sure about it being Cowey's first interview, it might have been. The point is that Cowey was on the production team and worked with his team to set this disgraceful stand-off up along with another fake music fan called Malcolm Gerrie.
Brutal news to read of Keith's passing yesterday... but a great time to revisit First Issue and Metal Box and reflect on how lucky we were to be music lovers around that time... bon voyage, Mr Levene!
Agreed! I'm definitley giving both albums a re listen, as much as I love this band I never overlistened to them if you know what I mean? I absolutely love this footage of PiL! All the best. Sad to hear about Keith.
@@doctorvonbrown881 Maybe the right time to have another listen to "Flowers of romance" too? It's a bit of a sleeper, so to speak but I'd have to say it's their most interesting sounding album. "Under the house", indeed!
@@MisAnnThorpe Yeh I should do, I also saw the documentary on P.I.L recently here on RUclips which passed me by somehow. Was good! Thanks for your comment
I'm not the biggest Sex Pistols/PIL connoisseur, but if the guitarist can play, then I just want people to know how bad it is to play guitar badly and have it still work with the music.
Finally, at long last and in its entirety, the infamous PIL tv appearance. Check it Out! British Television history. Thankyou for the upload. MOB WAR KILL HATE...
Great to see the full version of that intellectual upstart making a complete arse of himself, , , , , even better to see PIL taking the piss out of everyone.
This interview never made sense until I saw then entire thing. What the interviewers did earned them the response they got. But it all makes sense in context! Thank you for posting.
@@davemcmahon4045 i think he lost the argument when he said "for a start, i'm a lot better looking than Lydon". I always say the personal insult is the last bastion of the lost argument.
The group or company..are 100% for the music. The interviewers were just 100% celebrity personage..therefore they drew a blank. Bought the first two albums when first came out and still play them. Chant is one of the great tracks off PIL 2nd edition.
That's what I thought when I saw parts of this the first time. It's more an interrogation than an interview. I would also got pissed of and left the studio. Also at first the band was in a good mood, "where do you wanna go next?", "ah, In the pub I think", the interviewer didn't get the humor. Instead he treats Jah and John like silly schoolboys. The interview with Mond says also a lot.Where are the Upstarts now?
Love the look on John's face when they did that interview ! It was designed to upset him and worked a treat and the smug look on the interviewers face is priceless. lmao
Man. I can remember being 15, growing up outside Philly in the 90s, and I just wanted to be John Lydon. He was just too cool for school, looked great and had the best style and coolest attitude. Still does!
@@davidjameschamberlain part of his brilliance was being 'behind the curve' in a way - his musical hero was Steve Howe of 'prog-dinosaurs' Yes ( for whom he was a roadie/guitar tech)
Same ... it was looking like the greatest gig I'd ever seen until all the spitting started. Got to tell Wobble and Levene that backstage in 2012 when they did Metal Box In Dub in Shoreditch, London. Magnificent.
6:54. "wa doon wanna end up like Genesis or anything like that ya knoo".. like a dog turd might sprout wings and fly if it wasn't careful.. I like the Angelic Upstarts' version of Firth of Fifth though.. especially the intro.
I have a sneaky suspicion the “dock walk” was staged. And then him protesting he’s down to earth, I mean really? Why comment on johns looks it’s the polar opposite of being “down to earth “. The conversation was about music and the music scene, not a beauty contest.
Well, that went well. To answer the interviewer’s first question, John Lydon got the band’s name from the Muriel Spark novel ‘The Public Image’. Saw them in 1982 in Toronto, lineup was John Lydon, Keith Levene, Pete Jones, Martin Atkins. I think Pete had to play bass because Jah Wobble couldn’t get his armchair through customs. As for the interviewers in this particular piece of footage “You got what you wanted”. Thanks for posting!
Not correct. Jah Wobble left the band in 1980. He was frustrated with the lack of touring and recording activity. The band actually didn't have a bass player until Pete Jones joined in 1982.
In which Lydon and Levene finally pass from being white to being grey. Lydon in particular is the palest person I've ever seen and looks like an animated corpse! Marvellous finally seeing this footage. Amusing to see the pack of oafs down at the dockside rubishing Lydon and PiL. Punk by the Daily Mirror.
No labels. Nice to hear a profound discussion about the sentiments beneath PIL's raw music and provocative lyrics. History has shown Johnny et al have been ground breaking, influential and enduring. To this day.
No one cares about johnny rotten today or the pistols or even punk. Its a dead genre. This live Performance is sad. He was only given a platform after for being rotten not lyndon
The Pistols never played Detroit , but Johnny & The boys popped up in town on an awkward Thursday * At a Roller Rink ! THEE most ~ unique ~ show ℹ've Ever seen
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Lydon’s wife has Alzheimer’s. He loves her very much and is devoted to taking care of her. He wants to keep her home, not send her to some kind of nursing home. He’s a good man. He’s an excellent example of not judging a book by its cover. God bless him.
Well said...
Yes i totaly agree, he is an example
Oh yeah,Nora has Alzheimer and I feel so sorry for Johnny💖 and two of his brothers have cancer.Johnny is a very good man & very kind hearted.God bless him and his family💝💝💝
I had to look an d see If I was the one that wrote that . I SO agree with you !! God bless John Lydon
@@rp61productions RP61PRODUCTIONS AWESOME CHANNEL. ✊🏻
And no one remembers the name of both of those interviewers but john lydon is a national treasure and we be remembered forever
A national treasure is a bit over the top, he does speak the truth at times (Jimmy savile ( but is also highly obnoxious and at times very sharp
It was Malcolm Gerrie and Lyn Spencer actually mate
@@alanlittle3941 It was Chris Cowie not Malcolm Gerrie
@@mikemusic8213 i actually saw chris cowey in sunderland many years ago.
..and more to the point, who remembers that bloke from Angelic Upstarts... Mond who? Or any AU records. Disposable.
R.I.P Keith Levene, one of the most influential, and unique guitarists of all time. He's easily in my top 5 guitarists of all time. I never got the chance to see perform live, but he use to live in my hometown, I would see him walk around in the town centre, I never went up to him geeking like a school girl, or asked for his autograph, but i'd be in awe of him. My thoughts are with his family.
He died? When?
@@Boilingfrogg 11th November.
@@SynthJohn cheers.
What guitar is he using?
Damming. Didn't know he passed. Thanks for the info.
i love that someone could listen to the least commercial song of all time and accuse lydon of "selling out"
But he was "selling out", by 1) Saying PiL (the clue is in the name) is a company not a band. 2) Going in for the experimental music that Lydon had explictedy deride during his time in the Pistols. It's really not 'rocket science' to understand, just more like 'cognitive dissonance' if you can't.
@@sunnyjim1355 He preferred CAN over Pink Floyd so i think that's the diffrence between what he derided and what the group where into.
@@sunnyjim1355 if you think PIL sold out, in that era, you are clearly deluded, and its not rocket science to think otherwise despite your "cognitive dissonance" bollox you print.........
you are correct Dylan Kidd, and that someone was from angelic upstarts who having jumped on the bandwagon, failed to get anywhere near PIL. If country and western was fashionable in 77/78, the upstarts would have all bought themselves horses...
The Upstarts. What a bunch of fucking losers.
I love watching his interviews. He really didn't let the interviewers trap him into whatever angle they were trying to push.
Yeah, Johnny was a genius at handling the media. He had to be. Nothing but respect for the man.
Yes! He saw 3 miles ahead of everyone in the room
Hardly being trapped on a show that's asking about the new group image and their musical direction. Very basic really. He never really said much in interviews and anything that provoked an interesting response was met with his fake hard man stare down and jaw jutting which resulted in him usually saying "next question".
Fair play for making a career of it though
@@blueblood3108 except what do you expect? They literally had a bunch of nobody’s slag him and his band off for 5 minutes and expected him to be civil and answer their stupid questions which of themselves showed how out of touch they were with PIL and the punk movement by 1979.
@@blueblood3108 oh yeah those interviewers were so innocent. they just had a clip of some douchebag talking shit about Johnny Rotten lined up to show him and his band while on the air. I wonder why they would do that cause they seemed so friendly.
This version of PIL was absolutely revolutionary and was doing music that was truly original and not just parroting 1977 punk. Fantastic!
Well..., you are right in that they were NOT parroting 77 Punk (which is nice & brave of them),...,
but the "Absolutely Revolutionary" statement is a little over the top, I´m afraid. They sound like a SLOPPY, LEAST TALENTED, VERSION of what the german band CAN had been doing since 1968.
Same thing, only NOT half as good.
to me, PIL was very reminiscent of John Lennon and Yoko Ono's "Plastic Ono Band" albums. Very unique takes!!
@@locuacidadsindiluir1696 it's not sloppy. They're playing that way on purpose. It's supposed to be avant garde. Can were a lot more mainstream/pop
@@chrisjames6327 100% agree. Chant has frantic and dissonant guitar playing which helps convey the feelings of mob mentality (especially during riots), hence the lyrics "mob, war, feel hate." Keith's sloppy playing was done intentionally, but unfortunately some people just can't think deeply enough to understand the ideas in the music. Plus, their style was actually quite revolutionary as it would go on to influence a lot of different experimental music later on, especially some of what was being done in post-punk. Sure the music itself isn't necessarily as skillful or as calculated as CAN's music, but these were punk rockers at heart who were putting their own spin on experimental music. It was all quite artful, and definitely boundary pushing for its time.
@@chrisjames6327 Ahh the old Avant Garde a clue argument?
So sad to hear today that Keith Levene has died. This incredible performance is a fitting testament to his extraordinary talent. A true original and a massive inspiration to everyone of the punk/post-punk generation. He will be very sorely missed.
he died from being poisoned by courtney love
Heroin overdose
@@ehLeanne311liver cancer, not an OD
Fuckin he'll just found out that now. Had my head up my arse for years. Sad shit mate.
I agree with John Lydon. The interview was a sham.
A sham 69? 🤔
he went wiki LoL
@@wescollins2981 they're going down the pub instead 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
whole thing felt like a sketch...
You never listen to word that I said, You only seen me
For the clothes that I wear, or did the interest go so much deeper
It must have been the colour of my hair.
Legendary session... This early line-up with Levene and Wobble was on fire. RIP Keith.
Too bad John sounds like a dying cat on fire
@@Haerinx87 that's his p.i.l voice! apparently he blew out his voice in the sex pistols and had to go falsetto for p.i.l.
unfortunately that's too true
@@Haerinx87
unfortunately that's too true, also
@@Haerinx87 I think that's the whole point...
Those interviewers were disgustingly rude to get a reaction out of John, because he’s infamously defensive. But he stayed calm, good on him.
They watched a group of nobodies dissing them, and then expected to just sit there. Nice to actually see the uneditted version where it shows the programme as being the arseholes and not PIL, as over the years you were meant to think.
Pete Marr Angelic Upstarts Are Nobodies?
@@rockrecords222s Well, idiotic nobodies to give them credit. Wankers in fact. Idiotic wankers.
C'mon, lok the band were being total pretentious, arseholes. I love them as much as you but Lydon had this almost personality disorder. This has be borne out in subsequent interviews. But I still find it hilarious!
TurntablesRockmyworld et al...Like yourself I thought PIL when they were a band '78-'81 were great (so were 'Pistols)... Wobble & Levene have 'grown up'...Lydon never has ..for 40yrs now if not praised he doesn't engage, makes statements, stares ,goes silent , does "look I'm from Finsbury Park ,so I know" act or bullies with his 'mates'/minders...
...( I also highly rated the 'Upstarts & SLF live & on record '78-'80)...but this is 12mins of 'all in cringing embarrassment' for everybody involved...
@@andchat6241 Yes, I agree. Watch Lydon in this clip with a punk round-table with Tommy Ramone, Henry Rollins, Duff Mckagan. Just cringeworthy: narcissist, cringeworthy, rude,ugly etc. Hard to watch. Like the drunk old guy in the pub that everyone is trying to avoid. ruclips.net/video/HhVZLL1pMQ0/видео.html
I've waited 40 years to finally see the full version again after seeing it on Tyne Tees and it changing my life ! This is major !
You are so damn right,so I wait 40years to see se full version of this interview again ;D
My dad might have watched it if it was on Tyne Tees...i'm gonna ask him.
Sure would like the JW uncensored audio at the end tho........
Steve Dinsdale it changed your life?? Wtf lol
@@Eleventhearlofmars
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I still remember Nana humming this as she baked biscuits. ♥
Wish I had a Nana like that.
carl lynch Nice
Thank you for making my day Carl
Carl...now that...was funny. 👍😁👍
Nana had good taste!
8:05
Sorry, fella. Lydon had the last laugh. He’s stood the test of time, and he is still going strong!
@Bloom Tik Bloom The kid in the video or Lydon?
@@nectarinedreams7208Lydon is still alive. The guy from the Angelic Upstarts I think died last year.
RIP Keith Levene, your astounding guitar work made this clip hum with electricity!
No staged reality but real life and art. This is TV at its very best, but unfortunatley these times are long gone. And what a performance by the best PIL line-up
I love how whenever this is used in other documentaries it’s chopped down to try and show Wobble and Lydon as volatile and arsey people, but as the old Guardian advert says it’s only when you get the full picture that you can fully understand what’s going on! Thanks for this upload it’s invaluable!!!!
this is the first time that I've seen the whole thing, and was thinking the exact same
Johnny was 23 years old and that nobody called him an old man wtf?
@Creenge Obviously not if I was wondering wtf that guy was talking about.
@@Gleason53 I think he ment this guy where he said at 08:07:Johnny Rotten is finish,he is a old man.
@@danielaschwarz1971 ..exactly ..in the same way Lydon would call virtually anybody in a band pre 1976 'a boring old fart'.....
Andy Blade of Eater (with their 14 year old drummer, Dee Generate) called the Pistols 'too old!'
@@andchat6241 stranglers were called old farts while only jet black was 40 back then, the rest were in late 20s
Jeolus
Thanks for posting the entire thing. It's extremely rare and people judged the band for being rude to the interviewers, but they didn't know the full context.
Yes i was surprised by John's subdued response. Mark E. Smith would've destroyed them for that sham. He'd empty drinks on and them for sure ))
Definitely unfair to have put up the cut down version previously that makes Lydon look like he was being an awkward twat for no reason. This shows how the TV show was trying to wind him up to get a reaction, cheap 'gotcha' publicity stunt, just plain rude and ignorant way to treat a guest.
@sexobscura Why am I cursed now or something?
Jon Crossland.
👍🏻. I never trust an incomplete story.
It’s absurd how many so called “journalists” back then would treat Lydon and other controversial artists of the time like dirt and with no respect or courtesy. When he was in the pistols he was already under constant scrutiny for being honest and raw, but when the idea of punk became trendy, and the label itself proved marketable for the media to use, artists like John and company were accused of not being punk enough, (whatever that means). It’s so brutally epic how he takes the crap they constantly threw at him and gave it right back. It’s also pretty funny how in the thumbnail he almost looks cheery and amicable.
Well said!
One just doesn't talk shit about fellow musicians, especially in public.
unless it's those subhuman degenerates on the x-factor.oooops,sorry i meant musicians
Well, Lydon did and does it all the time..
Human League "old hippes?"
I saw PiL live once and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. And I've seen a LOT.
I just came back and watched this two years after first seeing it, and the thing I find the most shocking is that PIL sat there and watched the crap interview with that Angelic Upstart nobody. That showed true patience! Total setup by the show, and I'm amazed they stuck around as long as they did.
At last! For decades have wanted to see the full version, well done.
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@@sidvicious05 what????Are you alive:D
I wanna hear what Wobble said ;-DDDD
I swear that Chant song in the start is growing on me. It’s got such raw anger and energy in it, I bloody love it nowadays.
Same first time hearing it i found it pretty boring but now it’s one of my favourite tracks on the album
I wonder what the chant is😂
@@traprosey “it’s a ditty! Love it or leave it”
Johnny Rotten, 1980 on the Tomorrow Show with Tom Snyder
Keith Levene is one of my favorite guitar players of all time, huge influence on my playing
Rip Keith
One of my favs too and an influence on my playing. I also play bass and Jah Wobble is a big influence when it comes to that instrument. I wish Jah Wobble stayed with the band for it's entirety. Same with Keith levene. I can only imagine the things they could've done.
@@Rshields388Lou Edmonds is great in his own right but Keith really made their sound I think
Took the interviewers less than a minute to coax out the infamous Lydon death glare 5:15
"The Lydon Death Glare!" I've liked you since I've been 14 John. Still honest and still making music. Some people blamed Lydon for not dying and thriving. Good on you John! Why did they follow some nitwit shouting his mouth off?
It's a fabricated act, you utter moron.
❤😊❤
PIL were innovative and unique! John Lydon such a charismatic performer. Fantastic clip!
PIL were as groundbreaking as Roxy Music were in the 70s
My first time seeing the whole thing..
He had every right to be pissed off..they didn't want the full band in the interview..then proceed to show a video of someone talking shit about him...I would have busted that TV..
Johnny would be likely to do that too. That Interview was bullshit
There would be no angelic upstairs without Sex Pistols or Lydon
That name is really dumb too
My hope is angelic upstairs are in some nursing home right
Now
That's the whole point, you moron... to get you to feel empathy for the 'under dog'. Now our whole society is based on 'victimhood' because of idiots like you.
I seriously think that he was considering trashing the TV. This was very low and disrespectful treatment of any band or singer. Invite on a show and play a 10 minute video of a nasty, critical, and jealous person that has nothing good to say. I'd of walked off, too. Even sooner.
@@ScaryPsychobabble with you 💯
I wish I could like this 50 times. The Angelic upstarts cutting a promo on Lydon was golden. The tune PiL did was epic too. And the hapless 1979 presenters were hilariously lame. And the iceing on the cake was the ending credits music. Perfect lols👌
You are a genius...i cant believe i finally see the full thing
Most significant thing about Keith Levene was, he got bored with The Clash and how right he was. A truly magnificent guitarist on his day, thanks for the arpeggios mate.
Wow... Amazing.
Only ever seen the couple of minutes this is famous for, and having seen the rest of it, it gives a lot of context.
They were on a stitch-up job they were probably planning for weeks.
Good on PiL for digging in there and not standing for it.
Thank you for this, maybe in 40 years when could see the unbleeped version, cheers!
This is straight from the archive reel so the beeps will most likely never be removed unfortunately. Which is a shame. ;)
@@Heston68 where did you find the archive reel?
@@duncansmoviesandanimation6555 Can't really say
beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
"Cheapstake comedy interrogation act", rather beautifully put.
Total set up,fair play to John and Pil,far better band than Angelic Upstarts
ZERO comparison ...... John Lydon ..... LEGEND !.... Angelic WHO ??
not exactly difficult.
Johnny is by no means handsome, but I can't take my eyes off him, his face is just so intense and so alive and in a way, he truly is beautiful
A strikingly chiselled phisog.
bet you have dated nothing but losers
This was amazing to see the full thing finally. I've seen the this PIL interview before with Johnny losing it but now it's clear why. A classic, just like the Grundy from '76! 😂🤣
thats probably what the check it out people wanted just another grundy like outburst from our dear jon
"poonk".
lol
Heroin Spook
😁 😆 😅 😂 🤣
Funniest comment ever!
Wow, wow, wow, thank you, John Heston, for posting this rare footage!
Have been waiting forever to see it!
I love when Wobble gets up at the end and his entire speech is bleeped out.
I'd kill to hear that part uncensored.
He was calling them effing amateurs and shitheads
They were spoiling for a fight, yet John et al remained unbelievably calm with their responses. Can’t believe he didn’t walk out sooner.
Two extra bits. The interviewer was Chris Cowey reportedly in his first ever tv interview. The woman is Lyn Spencer. She was previously at teacher training college with Sting, and when the Police appeared on the show he reportedly tore her off a strip for her part in this travesty of an interview.
She gives teachers a bad name.
My wife's son cooked for sting at a restaurant in Chicago a few times.
Not sure about it being Cowey's first interview, it might have been. The point is that Cowey was on the production team and worked with his team to set this disgraceful stand-off up along with another fake music fan called Malcolm Gerrie.
Isn’t this why we love Lydon
he's a twat these days though..vanished up his own arse years ago..bloke is stuck in a loop around 1980
@@porterhall27 Doing commercials for butter recently, I believe. Lovely lad.
inertia27 go fuck yourself he still doing very good performances check it out before opening your mouth. we'll see where you at in your '60s
Good bloke during the 70s. But he’s sold out since then
@@aestheticaltwathe laughs all the way to the bank and at you
I've wanted to see this entire clip for years. Thanks for uploading mate!
yeah right is just trash!!!!!!!!!
Brutal news to read of Keith's passing yesterday... but a great time to revisit First Issue and Metal Box and reflect on how lucky we were to be music lovers around that time... bon voyage, Mr Levene!
Agreed! I'm definitley giving both albums a re listen, as much as I love this band I never overlistened to them if you know what I mean? I absolutely love this footage of PiL! All the best. Sad to hear about Keith.
@@doctorvonbrown881 Maybe the right time to have another listen to "Flowers of romance" too? It's a bit of a sleeper, so to speak but I'd have to say it's their most interesting sounding album. "Under the house", indeed!
@@MisAnnThorpe Yeh I should do, I also saw the documentary on P.I.L recently here on RUclips which passed me by somehow. Was good! Thanks for your comment
That guitar work is insane
More punk than punk
Love it
Completely agree.
When you get it , you get it
I'm not the biggest Sex Pistols/PIL connoisseur, but if the guitarist can play, then I just want people to know how bad it is to play guitar badly and have it still work with the music.
Finally, at long last and in its entirety, the infamous PIL tv appearance. Check it Out! British Television history. Thankyou for the upload. MOB WAR KILL HATE...
voice moaning in a speaker ...
Great to see the full version of that intellectual upstart making a complete arse of himself, , , , , even better to see PIL taking the piss out of everyone.
Was never a punk...but John Lydon is a legend!
This interview never made sense until I saw then entire thing. What the interviewers did earned them the response they got. But it all makes sense in context! Thank you for posting.
Easily one of the greatest interviews ever.
Be great if there had been subtitles for those Germans walking through the docks.
Did your autocorrect turn 'Geordies' into 'Germans?'
Hahaha, funniest comment I've seen in a while.
Give em to the scots!
😂😂😂😂
Move any mountain 😎
Thanks for uploading the full clip! Quite something.
4:09 "and we get paid for this!" haha
“I said nothing for a time, just ran my fingertips along the edge of the human-shaped emptiness that had been left inside me.”
― Haruki Murakami.
which one?
I remember seeing clips of this performance on RUclips 15 years ago but I’m so glad to get the whole performance of Chant and in much better wuality
Context is everything
Totally demented! I’d love to lock all the X Factor generation into a hall for a week and force them to listen to PIL!
and the talking heads
Thanks John for getting this up ... long awaited mate, cheers!
The whole interview, fantastic!
Sad to hear the news of Keith Levene's passing today, RIP. His influence can be heard all over post-punk/alternative music.
Can’t stop laughing over the beeping followed by the best mic drop in history lolol every time
John Lydon has had a long career. The Angelic guy was obviously very wrong.
I don't think the angelic upstarts guy's a member of the genesis fan club then
I think he was wasted, angelic upstart's are a great band, but i think he was talking rubbish
Everybody says stupid shit when they're young that they later regret saying. We just don't always have the tv cameras rolling when we say it.
@@davemcmahon4045 i think he lost the argument when he said "for a start, i'm a lot better looking than Lydon". I always say the personal insult is the last bastion of the lost argument.
@@dyr234 Angelic WHO?? LOL LOSERS !! By comparison to John Lydon. Wanna be posers at best ! Where are they now ? LMAO !!
The group or company..are 100% for the music. The interviewers were just 100% celebrity personage..therefore they drew a blank. Bought the first two albums when first came out and still play them. Chant is one of the great tracks off PIL 2nd edition.
It's the one track I usually skip from Metal Box. Strange, eh?
I bought all of them, through Flowers of Romance and Commercial Zone. Then Keith left, and I lost interest.
That's what I thought when I saw parts of this the first time. It's more an interrogation than an interview. I would also got pissed of and left the studio. Also at first the band was in a good mood, "where do you wanna go next?", "ah, In the pub I think", the interviewer didn't get the humor. Instead he treats Jah and John like silly schoolboys. The interview with Mond says also a lot.Where are the Upstarts now?
Love the look on John's face when they did that interview ! It was designed to upset him and worked a treat and the smug look on the interviewers face is priceless. lmao
Man. I can remember being 15, growing up outside Philly in the 90s, and I just wanted to be John Lydon. He was just too cool for school, looked great and had the best style and coolest attitude. Still does!
Levene was way ahead of the curve...how many avant guitarists have been influenced by Levene's playing since?
Snakehips on drums?
His use of dissonance is incredible
@@davidjameschamberlain part of his brilliance was being 'behind the curve' in a way - his musical hero was Steve Howe of 'prog-dinosaurs' Yes ( for whom he was a roadie/guitar tech)
And how great would it be to see the Granada Reports clip of PiL performing Death Disco from 18 June 1979
Astounding that this was not recorded in some way!
Saw this tour at the Grand Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles.. 1980
Excellent! 🌹
Same ... it was looking like the greatest gig I'd ever seen until all the spitting started. Got to tell Wobble and Levene that backstage in 2012 when they did Metal Box In Dub in Shoreditch, London. Magnificent.
This is still ahead it's time, maybe be another 5000 years to go.
This is the first time I’ve seen this interview in full and all I can say is it was a total hatchet job!
at last the full version... stil dont know what wobble says behind the bleeps tho!
'fuck you assholes i'm done' very likely LOL
Called them for all the cunts they are worth no doubt...
He said: "Look... I'm jolly cross with you, rotters. This wasn't call for and I've a good mind to come round and see your parents."
Bringing back memories I loved PIL and had crushes on them in 1978 when I was sixteen . I love them still now especially Johnny and Keith
I wish the performance had segued into Radio 4. I would love to hear that live.
Very sad to hear of the passing of Keith Levine - A great talent .....
The Angelic Upstarts...yeah, we all remember them!
Mensi. Killed by a breathing stimulator helmet. RIP.
6:54. "wa doon wanna end up like Genesis or anything like that ya knoo".. like a dog turd might sprout wings and fly if it wasn't careful.. I like the Angelic Upstarts' version of Firth of Fifth though.. especially the intro.
The path is clear, though no punks can see
my metalbox has started to rust a little, but still works great to get rid of unwanted "guests"
When I listen to "Metal Box", so do my neighbours. Mine is getting a bit worse for wear but the vinyl is mint. Have a very good day.
For pesky guests try playing it at 33 1/3.
I use to play it in my car on the way to school in the morning and my sister would have a panic attack.
Buy it on cd the deluxe edition plastic box sounds even better and save the vinyl 🤘🏻
I piss off my parents when I play second edition. Always gotta play it full blast XD
What's wrong with 20 synthesizers in a band? Sounds bloody great if you ask me
That kid was more pretentious than Genesis ever were. Self-righteous punks are insufferable.
You obviously kneel at the alter of shite like Gentle Giant and Camel!
This has to be the only reason this show is known for. It said on the Wikipedia that this show was notable for this episode.
R.I.P. Keith Levene.
You were a truly original guitarist.
Rotten was correct.
Yes, because he earned millions. Not morally or factually correct, just $.
Totally agree
I’m not surprised he stormed off. Yes, they were awkward to interview & yes they had chips on their shoulders but this was an adolescent tv ambush.
I have a sneaky suspicion the “dock walk” was staged. And then him protesting he’s down to earth, I mean really? Why comment on johns looks it’s the polar opposite of being “down to earth “. The conversation was about music and the music scene, not a beauty contest.
Keith Levine casually riffing is just unreal here. RIP Keith
The fact that Metal Box is basically the product of them directionlessly jamming and fucking around is insane
This song is genius and the interviewers were being super ungracious. They were trying to start a fight.
Well, that went well. To answer the interviewer’s first question, John Lydon got the band’s name from the Muriel Spark novel ‘The Public Image’. Saw them in 1982 in Toronto, lineup was John Lydon, Keith Levene, Pete Jones, Martin Atkins. I think Pete had to play bass because Jah Wobble couldn’t get his armchair through customs.
As for the interviewers in this particular piece of footage “You got what you wanted”. Thanks for posting!
Not correct. Jah Wobble left the band in 1980. He was frustrated with the lack of touring and recording activity. The band actually didn't have a bass player until Pete Jones joined in 1982.
@@bent2 Hi Joe - I was joking about the armchair! Cheers.
@@bent2 and then they had the gall to claim they'd sacked him for re-using rhythm tracks that he'd recorded himself.
This sound defined post punk and bands such as Joy Division and Siouxsie. Very pioneering in their Sound
Cowie and Spencer were embarrasing always patronising on Tyne Tees back in the day looking to make a name for themselves by dissing PIL
John has proven himself to be a diamond geezer over the years.
Brilliant, no one acts like this anymore. Technology and money seems to have tamed today’s musicians.
Yeah he need real people , all stuff are just robotic now lol , electronic music is more real than actually people
PILGold - thank you
In which Lydon and Levene finally pass from being white to being grey. Lydon in particular is the palest person I've ever seen and looks like an animated corpse! Marvellous finally seeing this footage. Amusing to see the pack of oafs down at the dockside rubishing Lydon and PiL. Punk by the Daily Mirror.
Levene looks so fragile.
Keith was in the middle of his affair with the White Lady, I believe.
www.furious.com/perfect/keithlevene4.html
rest in peace Keith, what a huge loss.
Very nice! Thanks for this clip ❤
No labels.
Nice to hear a profound discussion about the sentiments beneath PIL's raw music and provocative lyrics.
History has shown Johnny et al have been ground breaking, influential and enduring. To this day.
No one cares about johnny rotten today or the pistols or even punk. Its a dead genre. This live Performance is sad. He was only given a platform after for being rotten not lyndon
@@MechanixV ok ok... but you must admit they /he has influenced music history?
The Pistols never played Detroit , but Johnny & The boys popped up in town on an awkward Thursday * At a Roller Rink ! THEE most ~ unique ~ show ℹ've Ever seen
"You've all been very naughty" (walks offstage for 20 minutes, near-riot ensues...)