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Your problem with the machine? You are supposed to put the bottom of the thing in first! :P
You don't have to wash what you put into the Yellow Bag. There is official information, that it has to be "Löffelrein", It just have to be as clean as you can clean it with a spoon...
thanks, I never knew this!
jeah, i can agree with that.
Nicht in Baden-Würtemberg. Die haben ein anderes Müllsystem.
Put the bottle with the bottom first. :) Scanning rate is 95% then.
Those dark and light blue translucent Lidl bottles really give the machine a hard time scanning, not even in the Lidl stores.
They also need several attemps at Rewe or other stores...
eaglevision993
If you don´t like to bring back your bottles but still want cans and platic containers, buy them in France. They don´t have that recycling system (yet)...
Sometimes it can be very funny to study the people by handling the recycling machine. There was a woman at the reverse vending machine that shoved the bottle with their complete arm into the machine. The display at the machine shows "Das Objekt ist zu lang" "the object is too long". She don't read the message and tried it several times. It was so funny.
An other woman at a recycling machine with a metal flap was afraid of the metal flap, she thought the metal flap could cut through her arm. She was unable to pull out the stuck bottle. The bottle was just at the beginning of the tunnel.
Some people are so stupid.
Recycling machines (and their user's behaviour) can be really funny. In a Supermarket in my area, the one for glass bottles once returned random bottles and the staff had no idea how to stop this. Another one printed a reciept which stated that i returned 100 bottles (I actually returned 10 water bottles) of Romanian schnaps (unfortunately all with 0 cent bottle refund).
I have a story about stupid people too. A man inserted his whole shopping bag into the slot for cartons (or Boxes? Or how do you call that in English?). Everyone tried to explain him that the slot isn't for shopping bags, but the man continued. The machine didn't accept it, so he also tried it with his arm. This continued for 15 minutes, until an old women standing in the queue gave him her walking stick. The man pushed it in with the stick, and waited for it. Of course, the machine didn't print a reciept, but showed "No Cartons accepted" on its display. The man was freaking out. The old women was the next one in the queue, the man tried to persuade her that the machine will not accept her bottles. After the women inserted her first bottle, she printed a reciept for it and gave it to the man, and said "You forgot your reciept". The man took it and walked away. Problem solved.
PfandflaschenNazi *LOL*
NO! you don't have to clean your yoghurt pot before putting it into the yellow bag
what crawler oz said!
crawler oz but it's better to do so because of the smell after a few days :-)
Commandelicious well... The South is different. I lived like one or two years in bavaria and they clean their plastic trash. meanwhile, back in good old Saxony, we don't. just threw everything in the yellow thing, it gets seperated anyway :D
maybe in wintertime it's not so important to clean the trash but in summer, especially when it goes up to a 100°F, everything gets moldy. very fast!
mold and breathtaking smell - I don't want that in my home or in my garage :-)
when you rent an appartment: have a good look where the trashcans are standing! in big cities they are often near the houses what causes you to be unable to open the window during summer. I ditched a lot of apartments that would have been nice actually because of the "closeness" of the trashcans to the balcony/windows. And do not trust the landlord saying it's too far away from your window to be smelled. It's only too far away when you have a look on the opposite side of the street.
If you're like me and you're often in Germany but only for a few days that "Pfand" can really get annoying because often you just don't have the time to get it back. But here is a tip, leaf the bottle beside a public trashcan, many kids and people who are poor collect bottles to get some additional money, who ever finds it first, will be happy that you didn't put it inside the trashcan ;)
We do that all the time. When we're in the city with beer or similar, we just put it on the trash-can, not inside of it. It will be taken away in ~15min :D
tmaster7331 jeah, true :) we do it that way too.
I just collect them, until I get time for bringing them back.
It's hard, but If you always put Pfnad Flaschen around, then the people would never do anything in their live against their poor life. It shouldnt be actually needed to collect pfand flaschen. Our Germany helps poor families and people. They just need to ask. I don't know why this is so hard.
Tora Chan I think you are right. But most of those people are struggling to use their social benefits properly. I guess they often run out of money, so they need to make a little bit extra money. I think that most of those people are unable to integrate in the job market. Some people seem to be mentally disordered. The problem with homeless people seems to be very similar. It is estimated that there are about 200 homeless people in Düsseldorf. But the number of places in homeless shelters provided by charitable organisations outnumbers the number of homeless people in Düsseldorf by far. But some homeless people prefer to sleep "outdoors", at least in the summer. Even in the winter some homeless people don't look for a place in a homeless shelter. The police have to search those people and call the "Gute Nacht Bus" to bring the people to a homeless shelter.
Tora Chan WTF? You honestly think unemployed and poor people could survive on Pfandflaschen? I know harrassing poor and unemployed people has become a national sport, but even then we might stick to points with a bit of a logical basis, now don't we?
Where I live, there is the black one for trash, the green one for organic trash and a blue one for paper
And the yellow bag is actually free and is normally sent to your housr, but we have to get it from the townhall because nobody is able to find our house 😅
Here:
Green container = garden/vegetable/compostable waste (60 euro for 120 L)
Black container = rest waste > gets burned and dumped (120 euro for 60L)
Blue container = paper (free)
Yellow bags = all recyclables (plastic/metal or composites of those with paper). I make sure everything is empty, but I don't wash anything.
Things gets washed at the recycle plant. They can do the washing a lot more efficient than I can. Recycling is already energy intensive so better save on that where we can.
The yellow bags can be picked up for free at a local supermarket. And once every two weeks they are collected. We don't have any of those big yellow containers.
The reason, why the Pfand for cans and plastic bottles is higher than for glas, is because years ago there was no Pfand for them. And because our Trash containers were full of those 'cheap' and lighter bottles, our government decided to put Pfand on them to force the people to buy more re-usable glassbottles. But the opposite happend, why those machines are now common at any supermarket.
Actually also not in the Trash belongs:
-Batteries (every Store that sells them, has to take them back for free, even McDonalds when they are in the Toys).
-Electronics
-old Chemicals, like most Paint, Oil etc. has to be brought to specialized disposer (If you danger the ecosystem you can get sued up to 100.000€)
-old Furniture and Householdstuff usually is disposed with "Sperrmüll"
-its common to bring old cloth and shoes to "Altkleidercontainer" or Secondhandshops
You have to buy you Gelber Sack? In my town they're available for free, laying around to takeaway. Also it doesn't even have to an official yellow sack. Since you can only get them from the town hall, during opening times, we just opted to use regular garbage bags from the super market. The garbage en take them as well.
Also it isn't neccessary to take you drinking containers to the store where you bought them. As long as the store you are returning it to sells the same beverage, or at least sells the same kind of container it is very likely that they will accept bottles/cans from other stores.
The yellow bag isn't for plastic it's for packaging (which often is plastic). Everything with the "Grüner Punkt" on it goes into the yellow bag.
+tjpld While this is technically true, noone cares where I live. I can even fill the yellow bag with styrofoam from the TV or whatever I just bought and it will get disposed. I hear though it's different in places like bavaria where you can get fines for forgetting the remnants of a cigarette into your yoghurt cup.
Again some great info for those who visit Germany. Your derpiness is entertaining and fun to watch. Go Sam!
Very useful and helpful, but as with all your videos, you always assume that what happens in Stuttgart is what happens all over Germany, and that is not the case.
we have also a green trashcan, for plants, no meat!
yellow bag is for plastic, except pfand bottles, glass is clear, green (also blue) and brown is the rest, than there are metall cans, aluminium and others, for electronics and other stuff is the recycling point, normally in every community is one, even.
the rest trashcan is for everything else thats not dangerous!
batteries for example you can bring to where those are sold!
Omg, Sam, I can't even...i laugh so much at your videos! They are hilarious and the way that you just kind of serious-sarcastic comment everything brings me to tears on a regular basis (in a good way).
Please keep up what you are doing, I love it!!
no.. there is no need to clean the plastic.. its just what many people do... dont ask me why.
+Zombiepull Some people just do it because of the smell
I don't know if these facts were mentioned in the comments before, but i have to bring them up either ways.
1. The Green Trash is for Biomüll, which means trash that can rot to soil. You either have to use one of these green trashcans or composters.
2. You can get those yellow bags for free. You can bye them, but you can ask for them in the Rathaus, or in supermarkets and get then for free. Besides, most of the times , the garbage collection gives you the yellow bags a few times a year when they get your garbage.
And when I'm done with such a youghurt, I don't throw the bucket away, but use it in my house hold for different things. They are a cheap form of tupperware, which also reduces waste. Well, not in the long run, since they end up being disposed of in the yellow bag at some time or another anyways, *but* it saves money.
SamWaltonMan Pfand (deposit) comes in two varieties: Einweg (one-way) and Mehrweg (multi-way). The latter, which is the older system, means that bottles (usually made of glass) will only be washed clean, relabeled, and then used again. The other system, Einweg, which means that bottles and cans (made of plastic and tin, respectively) will be crushed and melted down to later mold new bottles/cans from the material, was introduced much later.
This happened because there were growing complaints from eco-minded people (and political parties) about streets getting increasingly littered with plastic bottles and especially soda cans in the 1990ies. Beverage companies simply did not want to have to deal with deposits and taking back glass bottles. To soundly revert this process, Einwegpfand was introduced and the deposit was made much higher, so as to promote reusable, multi-way glass bottles over plastic and tin containers with customers. Ultimately, that goal was not really achieved, as ways to take back and process Einweg containers have been made easier over the years and thus especially the (much lighter) plastic bottles held their ground. But the higher deposit did indeed help lessen the litter problem.
Your videos "surviving Germany" are a blessing to me because in october I will live in Germany and I'm so scared about it ! Thanks a lot :) (sorry for my poor english)
Yes, we germans are very creepy ! Just kidding
When you are in Germany and you need help, you normally has to ask someone. That's maybe a little bit different to the U.S. Most Americans seem to notice if someone needs help. If you ask someone in Germany for help, almost everyone of us will be very happy and helpful.
I knew you people were all creeps out there ;). No, I'm mainly afraid because I will kind of live by myself and I don't want to look like an idiot (haha that's so lame).
Oh and I'm French btw so I'm pretty used to ask for help. But actually getting help will be a great change for me (thanks Paris...)
Einweg (disposable): You can take to any store. They HAVE to take it back. Mehrweg (reusable) you have to take to the store you brought it from or be lucky enough that they carry the same stuff as the store you usually buy from.
- Wein (as far as I know) and non-carbonated fruit drinks don't have a deposit on them
- Beer in a glass bottle is 8 cents (beer in a plastic bottle I don't actually know)
- Carbonated anything in a reusable container is probably 15 cents
- Anything in a disposable container is 25 cents
if you put the bottle in the other way around (bottom ahead) the machine is usually quicker :)
As much as i know, in Germany you got different colors for each type of garbage. The colors depent on your location and on the federal state (I don´t really know the english word fpr "Bundesland") you´re in. But where I live, you got:
A brown (sometimes green) bin for biological things - like spoiled food, dead plants, etc.
A yellow bin for all kind of Plastic
A blue bin for paper
A black bin for everything else, like small metallic scrap, etc.
Glass containers for glass (in the matching color of the glass)
For bigger things you need to call someone to carry it to the dump.
Be aware of the fact that you´re not allowed to throw away electromic things like batterys, platines, broken lightbulbs, etc. You need to bring them to the dump (It´s called "Wertstoffsammelhof" here, a place to put all kind of special and problematic garbage at).
And nobody will kill you when you put some small things wrong, but be sure to keep those thing small. Like the label on a some piece of plastic.
the green bin is for compostable waste, the black one is for trash and there are blue ones for paperrecycling.
pro tip: the pfand machine didn't take your bottle on first try because they're designed to scan beveragecontainers with theyr bottom end put in first.
beer bottles give you 8-15cents, all plasticbottles from the coka cola company give you 15cents and all the stuff that can only be used once, like cans or those thin plastic bottles have 25cents of pfand. this law is keep citys clean
Well, Recycling is different from state to state, in many states, the paper is a blue can; »yellow«-stuff (plastic and other packing material like cans) is not a bag in many states, but also a yellow can and there is also a green can for biological stuff. Btw, you dont had to clean the »yellow«-stuff, because »yellow«-stuff is first separated into plastic and metal and the plastic-part is burned to get energy...
fun fact: some people get whealthy by collecting Pfand, espacially on festivals where are tons of bottles left everywhere :)
Also the pfand is realy good for poor people, who tend to collect dumped bottles for the money
Keep it Green! :D
In different regions there are different reycling systems! In the area around Heidelberg you have three trashcans: a green one (for paper and plastic) a brown one (for organic trash) and a black one (for all other sorts of garbage) and a container for glass as well (and of course "Pfand") :P
And what do you do in the US? Don't you have a recycling system? Do you put all garbage in the sink? ;)
In many parts of North-Rhein-Westphalia (is that how you write it?) we have a yellow bin , for plastic . A brown one for organic waste (must be uncooked) .The blue one is for paper . And the black bin for everything else .
maybe someone already wrote a comment about it but anyways: you've forgotten one thing, wich is easy to forget if you don't run your own household: for all things big/heavy or whatever you can't put in any of the bags or bins, you'll have to see after the disposal of those things yourself. that means driving the object, let's say an old bed, to a junkyard. in most cases, the bed will get weighed and you'll have to pay for the disposal based on the bed's weight. but if you somehow have something with large amounts of rare metals or copper in it, you could end up getting money for it. that whole topic is a bit complicated and you should do your research if you have to dispose of something big.
Pricechopper in NY state also has those "money back for your bottles" Pfandmachinen... Someone told me the stores have changed names recently.
You don't have to bring back your bottle to the same place you bought it. You get your Pfand back in every supermarket/store. Buy it in Hamburg and get your Pfand back in Munich will work. ;)
Or buy it at Aldi store and bring ist back to a Rewe store for example, it won't be a problem.
This has got to happen in the U.S. I recycle as much as I can. It is depressing to see how much stuff just gets tossed in the landfill. Hello? We have only so much room for landfill. It's not unlimited. That, and um, well, it's just dumb to landfill something that is material that can be reused. Duh. We don't have unlimited resources. You should check out how this is done in Japan. They're serious about where you dispose of trash + recycling.
The reason why the soft plastic bottles and the cans are that expensive on the cash back, is that they are not reuseable. For example the hard plastic bottles like coke only cost 0,15 cent of pfand or glas bottles like beer are in with 8 cent. They are that cheap because they gonna be cleaned and reused after you bring em bag...
Paper trashcans are also blue. And I don't clean things before I get rid of them. They do that later anyway.
Wow I now have a true appreciation for the german recycling system. Really enjoyed this video, thanks Sam :D
I don't think you actually have to wash your trash tho some people do it. But that might also depend on your trash company. Also, you don't have to bring your bottles to the chain where you bought it. Bottles and cans with DPG logo ("Einwegpfand", those that get destroyed immediatly, PET bottels and alu cans) can be brought to any supermarket that sells bottles or cans made from the same material while all other bottels ("Mehrwegpfand", those that get washed and reused, PET bottles, glas bottles, and yogurt glasses) can be handed back to any shop that sells this brand.
I remember back in the day when those machines didn't exist and you had to give your bottles to the cashier and they had to manually count them. :D
You Paper-Trashcan is green??
Ours is blue and green is for Bio-Trash.
Looks like the coloursystem varies.
Trash collection and dividing is different from community to community. Here in Cologne we don't use yellow bags. We do have trash containers for the plastic stuff and how it is deposited doesn't matter and cleaning beforehand isn't required either.
But what is done wrong by almost everyone... the yellow bag and the yellow container actually is meant for any container or wrapping signed with the green point and explicitly listed stuff. All other metal and plastic stuff should go into the ordinary garbage.
The cleaning garbage stuff came up, because it was at first collected in long intervals. Having dirty plastic stuff in you home would attract flies, cockroaches and other undesirable insects. Same arguments for the yellow bins with the additional note that having to sort out stinking and insect infested garbage was an unreasonable demand.
At our place it's like that:
Blue bin - Paper
Black bin - Trash
Yellow bin - plastic
Brown bin - bio
We don't have to take anything anywhere. It gets picked up by a huge car.
Mysterious Chocolate Chip It's the same where I'm from (Hessen), though our bio bins are green. I actually found the green trash can in the video confusing...I've never heard of the paper trash can being green. As far as I know they're always blue...
+Mysterious Chocolate Chip some cities have green bins for biological waste
( _sounds pretty dangerous_ ) 😜
ClaGaCla when I was a teen the paper trash was actually green, in NRW. And the organic trash was brown. They changed it to blue and brown some years ago. Until that blue trash didnt even exist in that area.
+Mysterious Chocolate Chip Where I'm from (Köln/Cologne), the bins are like this:
Blue bin - Paper
Yellow bin - Plastic
Brown bin - Bio
Black / Dark grey - Trash
Green bin - is also trash
At my flat there are yellow, blue, black and green bins. It depends on which part of the city you live if you have brown bins.
+Mysterious Chocolate Chip you forgott the Yellow bin Plus for little electronic
So you found out how I cover the last week of the mounth: bringing back all those PET bottles we bought in the beginning of the mounth.... (and yes, if I find an empty bottle somewhere at my campus, it's miiiiiine hrrrr! xD)
Some rules for the "Yellow Bag" (Gelber Sack) are really odd.
For example: If you buy clothes with a hanger, the hanger counts as "packaging". Thus it goes into the Yellow Bag. Then again when you buy the clothes hanger on its own, its not packaging anymore. That is why you're not allowed to put it into the yellow bag.
strange.
you should also mention that it is different in other parts of the country. not every city has these yellow containers (munich has some beige ones, that look completely different)
Sam, you should always put the plastic bottle in bottom first (it says so in the upper left corner) or it can jam.
thing is, it also depends on the region where youre living. Some have green for paper, but most do have blue. Then I saw where youve been there were yellow bags,Ive never actually seen that before. Where I am living in Germany everyone has their own yellow bin...
I think the most common trash seperation in germany is
BLUE bin - paper
YELLOW bin ( also mostly your own bin)- plastic
Black- trash
brown or green - biodegredable stuff ( rest of fruit, bread n other nutrients, garden waste etc)
it varies a bit in the south. Its weird that even this differs depending on where you are. Same with those glass containers. Everywhere you got the white,brown,green glass things. But f.ex you also have a metal container in Bavaria whereas you are supposed to put those metal cans in the yellow bin in other areas. WEIRD :D
Recycling just makes so much sense. The USA could do a lot more to encourage our citizens to be more proactive in protecting the planet.
That video reminded me of when I was in London once. There is no deposit on Red Bull cans in the UK. At that time they had removed all the trash cans from the city because there was one of those Islamic bomb threat scares going on about a bomb in a trash can. So people were just dumping their stuff on the streets and you had these guys in flashy vests cleaning it up. And here I was, the neat German guy, with an empty Red Bull can and I just couldn't dispose of it on the streets. After 30 minutes or so I did exactly that, but I have to tell you, I had to really overcome my cultural heritage to do it. ;)
Anyways, the waste management system is way more lax here in Hamburg than it is in Stuttgart. I don't even think we have these yellow bags, which in my opinion don't make any sense at all since it all ends up being burned or dumped at the same landfill anyhow (at least that's what I've read somewhere).
+Sergio Weigel The yellow bags originate from someone suing the industry for their stupid packaging. This was at the time when german communities started to charge you individually based on how much trash bins you filled up, and someone basically demanded that the supermarkets take back the unwanted trash. And to everyone surprised the judges agree with him.
As reaction to that the industry started their green point system and build up a recycling system around it which is basically aimed at packing material and mainly plastic as paper was recycled anyway as valuable resource already.
A lot of it gets indeed burned anyway, but they actually SELL it to incinerator plants because all that plastic is basically fuel and with all the recycling going on they often actually need some high energy stuff to get the rest properly burned. And as they can sell it, they are for sure not dumping much of that plastic trash.
+Sergio Weigel The yellow bags originate from someone suing the industry for their stupid packaging. This was at the time when german communities started to charge you individually based on how much trash bins you filled up, and someone basically demanded that the supermarkets take back the unwanted trash. And to everyone surprised the judges agree with him.
As reaction to that the industry started their green point system and build up a recycling system around it which is basically aimed at packing material and mainly plastic as paper was recycled anyway as valuable resource already.
A lot of it gets indeed burned anyway, but they actually SELL it to incinerator plants because all that plastic is basically fuel and with all the recycling going on they often actually need some high energy stuff to get the rest properly burned. And as they can sell it, they are for sure not dumping much of that plastic trash.
For the Pfandrückgabe, you should feed the machine bottom first.
dortmund has one of the most confusing garbage systems. we have a so called 'yellow can' (for plastic etc.), but actually the can is black and only its top is yellow. we have a can that is yellow, but it's called 'blue can', because of its blue top (where you put paper in). so, to get the right name for a can, you don't have to look for the color of the can but for the color of the top. :P
did you know, that there are actually people in germany that collect bottles and cans on the street for their living. They're called "flaschensammler" or "pfandsammler"
I lived in Austria and they don't have Pfand. So I would get pretty pissed when I was in Germany and all the bottled drinks had a 25 Euro cent extra cost. I didn't know they give it back eventually, but if you're just a tourist it can be a pain.
We have brown (biomüll), black (I still don't know) and blue bins (Paper). And I don't have to throw away the yellow bag because someone is getting it up for me :D And clothes, too
Da steht noch eine Bierflasche auf der Bank! :-D
To clean out the trash for the yellow bag is really a swabian thing to do, just to be neat. You don´t have to clean it out, that would be wasteful for the water you use.
important: the bottles you want to put in the pfandautomat have to have a bottle like shape, or the automat wont accept it. so you have to get your bottles in bottle like shape, to get them destroyed...
I think we foreigners get more information about recycling and the locals are expected to just know it all and are so used to recycling that they all don't know that it states in the instruction guide to clean the packaging that goes in the yellow bags, a gelb sack. You can get a guide that has both German and English instructions from the recycling centers or the rathaus. Package also includes cans, styrofoam packaging, and other plastic wrapping too. We are told this when we get a lecture about it from the landlord and I know I had to constantly refer to guide book because I had no one to ask for help that spoke English next door to me. Also, you don't have to buy the yellow sacks they are free at the metzgerei or the rathaus, city hall. It sucks in USA, all states are different and all do not recycle yet. The state, I live now we have to buy blue bags for recycling, but everything goes in one bag and no separation where I live. They don't even instruct you to wash anything. Lastly, Sam you forgot the green bins for the bio waste. One thing I didn't know until I was moving and read the guide book again and it stated to not put bones in the bio waste, like any bones from meat. I think I had put bones in there until the last 3-4 months that I lived there for 3 years. Sorry... I actually liked the recycling once I got it figured out and a good bin system for my apartment. I think their system is very efficient and USA we could do better if we adopted something like it. We could do away with a lot of waste and create jobs for recycling too. I also liked going to take the big stuff or drop off some stuff like the electronic waste, old broke furniture, and batteries at the recycling centers they have.
The green trash can is compost waste, so any plant materials that are left over from cooking or garden works goes in there. The paper waste trash can is usually blue. At least that's the case in both Hesse and in Berlin, so I think it is in fact a national thing. Although in some regions have brown trash cans instead of green ones, but that's only because they were the last ones that were rolled out, and it got more regional. Blue trash cans exist since the 90s, where everything was still much more - I'd say "federal", although I'm not exactly sure if that's the right word...
The colour of the bins differs often from community to community. In the village where I grow up they started with a green bin for paper and metal. That was before the "Grüne Punkt" was introduced. Today they still use the green bin for paper. In Düsseldorf, where I now live, some people have blue bins for paper but most people take the paper to those central paper containers.
Sebastian Urbas In the village in Hesse where I grew up, there were centralized paper containers in the 80s, and then they introduced the blue bin for paper. After that, some time in the 90s, then came the "Grüner Punkt" for the yellow bags (which are distributed in several rolls for each household for free once a year, and the full ones are picked up in front of the houses every few weeks). A few years later, they added the green bin for compost waste. In Berlin, it's also blue for paper, but brown for compost, and there are even small yellow bins for some houses (so I guess they don't get to use the yellow bags, since there would fit only 2 or 3 of them in such a bin). We get the yellow bags from the Rathaus as well, but we don't have to pay for them. Plus, a couple of years ago, they were trying to introduce the orange box where everything that doesn't belong in the main trash can should go in. That means electronics, furniture parts made of wood or metal and stuff like that, but this failed, and now the yellow bin is for that as well...
On one time, after a party, I've 12€ Pfand only from softdrinks... Beerbottles NOT included :D
Also, for glass beer bottles, it's always 8 cents, there are some plastic and glass bottles (the plastic ones that do not change their shape so easily when you press on them while they're open) that are at 15 cents, and all the rest (cans, the "softer" kind of plastic bottles) are at 25 cents. This is, because again, these Pfand systems were rolled out in several different waves. The beer pfand is the oldest, then came the 15 cents pfand for bottles that were not beer, back in the day most or all were glass, then later on those for coke and other sodas were replaced by the more solid plastic, but stayed at 15 cents (or pfennige back then, since there was the D-Mark, but not the Euro yet), and only like 10 years or less ago they introduced pfand at 25 cents for cans and the softer plastic bottles, *however* again not for all of them. If the drink isn't carbonated, it does not have any pfand (like juices you buy in those bottles, or cans with coffee in them). You can see which of these bottles has Pfand and which doesn't at the "Pfand logo", which is printed next to the bar code once on each 25 cents pfand bottle or can.
The Pfand on those reusable soda bottles was 0,70 DM per bottle and the beverage crate was 5 DM. So the Pfand of a fully 10 bottle beverage crate was 12 DM and 13,40 DM for a 12 bottles crate. They lowered the Pfand at the Euro introducing.
Sebastian Urbas I remember the 90s pretty well, when I was a teenager, and there were never 0,70DM per bottle. Maybe in the 80s though, I would have been a kid, knowing nothing about money...
Seegal Galguntijak In the 90s I was youth leader for several years. We bought every week such a "Coca-Cola Kiste" and the Pfand was 0,70 DM per bottle. I know that exactly because I had to send all our bills to a departement to get our money back.
When you don't trust me, look at wikipedia:
"Ab 1. Dezember 1991 wurde der Betrag je Flasche dann auf 0,70 DM angehoben und am 1. Januar 2002, zur Einführung des Euro, dem branchenüblichen Betrag von 0,30 DM/0,15 € angepasst."
Sebastian Urbas I remember 30 Pfennig, but not 70. Well, the Wikipedia page also mentions regional differences, so I may just not have noticed it or so...I remember that in the 90s my parents didn't really buy that stuff too much though, which may have something to do with it ;)
DO NOT CLEAN THE PLASTIK GARBAGE. You don't have to,the Recycling places will clean it for you and use far less water then you at home.
the green bin is for organic stuff (Biomüll)
in other parts of germany the paper is BLUE and green is for garden (sometimes brown) ^^
Warum denn die gelben Säcke in die gelbe Tonne? Da dürfen doch auch normale Müllbeutel rein, die Tonne wird ja eh komplett geleert. Säcke können zusätzlich an die Strasse, wenn die Tonne voll ist oder man keine hat...
And if you are lazy one day, no one will kill you if you throw everything (except electronics) in the black bin.
But everyone will murder you, if you put the wrong stuff in the yellow/brown/blue bin, as the garbage man can decide to not pick up your garbage. And most important, never put porcelain or clay in the glass box. This will destroy the entire glass recycling process.
Your neighbours will kill you. Because the black trash bin has the highest fees of getting it emptied, while blue (paper) yellow (plastic and metal, everything with a "green dot symbol), orange (plastic, metal and electronic trash in some cities), brown (compostable, organic trash) and bins for white, green and brown glass are cheaper or completely free of charge.
If you throw everything in the black bin, which is just for rest trash, it is full quite fast and has to be emptied more often or your house need a bigger box, both is more expensive. And as trash is charged in one bill, which is splitted equally between all neighbours, you don't want to be the asshole increasing the costs.
The bottle deposit in my part of the US is so small, only 5 cents, it's really difficult for even the most thrifty to be bothered. I just leave my bottles in a bag on the top of the bin so the homeless can take them.
omg thanks for this one! Im going to karlsruhe the day after tomorrow and your videos are helping me so much!
Here in Rheinleind Pfalz we have 4 Trashcan instead of doing the Paper in the Green we have here a blue one only for Paper and a brown for all eatable things wich can rot.
I your Food from Lidl? love your videos Sam,I am going to move to Frankfurt in a month (I'm from Greece) and your videos really are helping me out to get some information about how things work in Germany
Last week I saw a bottle colector at 180€ and he still had bottles to give back, I asked him how long it took and he told me that he collected them in the last 4 Hours, over 45€ per Hour, thats more than mostly any one gets that goes working, also the money is Tax free
Und was ist mit Sondermüll, Elektronik und Batterien? Die haben auch spezielle Orte zum Entsorgen ;)
I know this is old but I do clean it because it tends to smell badly if it stays around for too long. Especially in summer. Believe me the stench of old yoghurt is unbearable. -_-
NOBODY rinses out their plastic before throwing it in the yellow bag
Recently I was on a class trip and 4 boys managed to collect 30€ of Pfand in just 5 days ^-^ They used it to buy like 12 packs of crisps :D
Bioshyn Oh I remember this story I saw it on TV a few years ago! :)
I also read an article about a guy who does this in trains. His revenues are so good that he has a network ticket for all German trains in first class.
oh and the yellow bags aren't sold. you usually get them for free.
In germany you can also get you Garbage in the forest,but no ss-garbage schould catch you
you put the bottle in the wrong way - look at the picture again :D but oh well you don't care now since you no longer live here^^
And if you live in the north of Germany, you don't have to pay for yellow bags at all! : )
Do you really have to return the bottle back to the exact store you bought it from? I didn't think it mattered. Also, I realized how common it is for people to leave bottles sitting on the side of the street. I was wondering why people were littering. Then I realized that someone will eventually come around and collect the bottles. And those people make a living off of collecting them.
No it works different. If you bought a bottle from ... i dunno, maybe ALDI , than you can return it to any ADLI-Discounter in Germany. Not a single problem that i can see here. :)
To your second question. Well its just a nice thing, because the people you talked about are mostly homeless ones and its just a friendly deal, that we richer people or normal people just let some botles around the Park- Benches or next to public garbage cans. It makes life easier for them and us :)
I hope I could help you
Our paper binds(?) Is blue and not green. (I am from RLP)
your green trash can is blue were I live. Also if you have glass that is neither clear, green or brown (blue for example) it goes into the brown glass container. My personal record for pfand-money was 43€. We had 2 shopping carts full of Pfand from a party or two.
I am very sure, that blue or red glass get into the container for green glass.
Sebastian Urbas you are right. I got that mixed up.
Great video but what's about "Sondermüll" like battery's, electronic, poison ect? You also shout talk about that. ;)
+Daniel28021991 in every municipalityin every community there is a recycling depot
+Daniel28021991 *Wertstoffhof* - one day a week there ll be servicecar *Giftmobil* for ur toxic waste of any Kind ;-)
Lidl lohnt sich xD
And if you have 4 bottles with Pfand you'll have one € back. I mean that's a "lot". You can get a bar of chocolate with it ^-^ (yes my english is terrible but I don't give a F*ck :])
war doch alles richtig? :D
You get even 2.5 bars of chocolate for 1 Euro. 250g chocolate for 4 bottles. And when they are on sale for 0.29 Euro / bar, then you get about 3.5 bars. :D
you have lots of experience with that, huh? :D
Franziska B Haha :D I find it amazing that those store brand chocolate bars just cost 0.39 Euro. In every supermarket. Not every chocolate is nice but some are very decent. Compare this price to a 44g Hershey's milk chocolate bar in the U.S.
yup, pretty crazy! :D
Actually the green one is not for paper, it's the blue one. The Green one is for biological waste like leftovers.
its a huge missbelive that you have to clean out jogurt cups, thats only what old ppl do or ppl who are affaird of bad oder!... its a waste of water if you clean it
Die Flasche wird mit dem Boden zuerst in den Automaten geschoben . Darum wurde auch beim ersten Versuch ein FEHLER angezeigt .
Where do you bring your paper trash? Germans usually have a blue trash can for it.
And honestly, I dont know anybody who cleans their trash for the yellow bag (except my grandma).
He mentioned it, it's the green bin at the side of the front door.
I never washed anything for the trash. Only old ladies do. ^^
I have never heard of anyone washing their plastic stuff before putting in the yellow bag... O.o that is weird... and not necessary. :)
1:16 I just ate the exact same salami XD It tastes so freakin good ^^
Is that the Lidl in Stuttgart Möhringen?
Sam, Sam, Sam, you'll never learn... *sigh*
The instructions on the Pfandautomaten clearly read that you should insert the bottles bottom first. That's why the first bottle in your video came right back. The scanner CAN read bottles that are inserted the wrong way round, but not that accurately. Man, give that laser a chance!
To add some information, current typical Pfand (deposit) rates are:
glass bottle - 8 cents
plastic bottle or metal can - 25 cents
crate of beer (20 bottles plus the crate) - 3.10 euros (20 x 8 cents plus 1.50 for the crate)
Some bottles that don't match EU standards (typically fruit juice, like Granini) can be put in the trash and are marked on the label as "pfandfrei".
Do NEVER remove the paper label from plastic bottles; the machine identifies them by the barcode printed on it. Bottles without a label will not be accepted.
i actually learned something and iam german so thanks a lot man :D
Haha yeah, even the homeless get their money by selecting all those bottles and then they bring them to this thingy thing where you get your money back
What about organic stuff like fruits or vegetables?
brown
That differs from community to community. In some communities you get a brown bin and you have to pay for it (maybe 50-100 Euro per year). You can avoid the costs if you have a compost pile in your garden. Then you don't need those brown bins. Some communities have central recycling centers for garden waste. Other communities collect bundled garden waste like huge branches at your home. We (living in Düsseldorf) bring our garden waste to such a central recycling center, it's free. We put leftovers from fruits and vegetables in the residual trash bin. If you want you can order a brown bin, but that's not mandatory here in Düsseldorf.
Munich has a mandatory brown bin, which is free of charge (Only the grey bin for waste is charged here).
Depens on the area and how you want to handle it. You can have a bio-trash in which everything comes that rott away. Some people have got a compost in their garden where they let the stuff rot away. And if you don't want to make this kind of sorting you can put it without problem in the normal trash.
For example where I live: In the bio-trash goes only garbage from the garden, like old flowers, gras and leaves. Every garbage you produce in your household that is not paper, plastik or other special things you have to get rid at the local dumping ground you can put in the normal trashcan.
Feurika Salami vom LIDL! Einfach geil!
Among young adults its kind of a challenge to get your food for the next time completely paid by only using money from Pfand :D
1:32 xDDD