Ask Us Anything Part 1 - Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott - Ep. 115
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
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Jason and Hyphen have asked you to pose your questions, and as usual, you've proven that the Carmudgeon Audience is a bunch of smart, interesting humans. The questions were thought-provoking and intelligent.
So, too, were the students of CCS in Detroit, with whom the the boys chatted a few weeks ago - the curmudgeonly Carmudgeons were loathe to admit that the future is in good hands. 
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Sorry Jason, I think Derek's response to the question of urbanism and car dependency is spot on. Improving and expanding public transit helps everyone including car enthusiasts; reducing the number of commuters means more road for the people with cool cars who actually ENJOY driving them, plus there's less chance of some half-asleep camry driver t-boning your favorite car. We don't even necessarily have to make car ownership harder, just make transit more convenient than driving and you remove a huge swath of people from the roads. Easier said than done of course, but urban areas are most primed for this type of change.
Want to agree but let me propose some food for thoughts. The moment driving becomes a non-necessity, luxury taxes will follow. UK as example, with pretty good public transit network, and what follows? Speed cams, emission charges, congestion zones etc. And driving infrastructure will be eroded as well. I really don't trust public offices to do the right things to motorists when it comes to situation like this; high chance they would make decisions that generates more revenue.
The idea that transit system will help enthusiats, is build on the assumption that the road resources freed by transit are able to be used by enthusiats. But is this assumption true? Are the road infrastructures freed up by transit or eliminated? Aren't the countries with best transit systems also most expensive to own cars as well, while congestion still exist?
Absolutely. Every time I hear someone complain they need an automatic transmission because all of their driving is in stop and go driving I feel like they are going about fixing their problem all wrong. Don't buy the car that matches your lousy driving mode change your driving mode. When I moved to start my job (25 years ago, now retired) I selected a location that allowed me to commute by public transportation. Yes it limited my choices of locations but walking to the train and not using the car for work meant I only drive in traffic once or twice a year (visiting the family on Thanksgiving). So I drive manual transmission vehicles, don't need to worry about short trips and for the most part are driving interesting roads. Plus not needing the car to get to work means I do not need to rush my DIY repairs to have the car ready for Monday morning.
As much as I love cars and driving, its just not sustainable to continue the US's course of car dependency. And besides, driving in car centric infrastructure is not fun and has made our urban area hideous. I encourage everyone to watch a few videos from urbanism channels like Not Just Bikes or Climate Town. It is eye opening to see how other countries implement public transport and walkability. And guess what - public transport and walkable urban areas means less cars and less people who hate driving on the road. We are also having a climate crisis; any way we can cut down on waste and impact on the environment should be taken seriously. Electric cars are unfortunately just another way for the auto industry to continue to profit from car centric infrastructure. There is always going to be a huge environmental impact from making a giant pod to move one person. And with new studies showing tire particles making up the majority of microplastics, the impact of car obsession continues to be uncovered. With that said, cars and trucks are irreplaceable for certain tasks! But they should never, ever have become people's only option for transportation (and in most of America, living a normal life).
Well worded. I second the recommendation of Not Just Bikes; great channel!
@@fillertext778 love his early work. His newer videos have a bit of nationalism (not sure if that's the right word, but something along that line) that makes me a little uncomfortable. But still, he uses great sources to back up his videos
Where the fuck is my Piechisode?
we should ai-generate the script for it and tell another ai to generate the video from said script
Episode 917 is going to be the Piechisode this was already allegedly announced, I'm ever grateful my grandchildren will enjoy it
The Intercooler beat them to it. 🇬🇧
@@YAHOO28258I want to see Derick the second try clapping
I loved the part where Jason said "It's Carmudgeoning time!" And carmudged all over the mic
My god this here now, what’s next a r/carscirclejerk post
@@benjaminwatson7868Probably, but considering they don’t take themselves seriously at all, it’s kind of a surprise that it took so long.
Imagine saying this in front of him. Then having to explain to him that this joke is from a shitty superhero movie that was so bad that this meme has stayed around for years.
@johnbacon4997 I'd love to, because if I had his attention I'd also get to talk to him about how volvo keeps almost making really fun cars
The absolutely last place I thought I'd hear a NUMTOT reference or support. Can't agree more with the statement. The days of driving being a requirement should be over and leave the cars for those who want to drive. Well done and I'm totally here for it
Petition revelations on an LFA
I just went to purchase the tumbler, and apparently, it's proceeds do not go to help fund teen driver education (several items are tagged with supporting the education, but not the tumbler). Jason, I'll wait for you to call someone and get it corrected on the website. I was going to get the Porsche cuts T-shirt, but I really want the tumbler.
God I cant wait to carmudge on this monday
Jason is spot on about the Alfa 33 Stradale, and other cars of its ilk. They're tapping into the same function as the art market. When the cars are a success, they're assets that will only appreciate due to their rarity, and so worth the astronomical prices they command.
Dang, the answer to my question about design continuity was insightful. I never really thought about how successive generations can have a sort of copier degradation effect where an initially great retro design fades.
I think S-197 to S-550 to S-650 is an example of that. Here's a car which pays homage not to what established its nameplate, but rather to its direct predecessor.
seems the recipe to better not f this up because sales were good
I look forward to the episode on out of character cars! It's something I've always had in the back of my mind since I learned about the corvair and the fairly large displacement of Toyotas old Crown luxury/executive cars.
Oh, a pre-1990 3-car garage? This sounds fun! I think I’d want to cover several bases with something sporty, something good for long road trips, and something truckish. My picks:
1. Series I Jaguar 3.8-litre E-Type OTS (in BRG over biscuit)
2. 1970 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
3. Jeep Grand Wagoneer.
I THINK you might have done this back in the Issimi days, but I'd love an episode on good bad cars for the first time car buyer
I love you two, but it helps to get out of your west coast mindset for a minute; having garages with both a daily drivier AND a weekend enthusiast car is a luxury that even the 1% barely attain in East Coast cities and their suburbs. The youths are divested from car culture because we're too late and most of our exposure at this point is being in the back of an Uber. Financing a decent Korean car today is easily $500/month (buying used at current inflated prices and maitenance is NOT pragmatic), its not a small amount of money, and if your in an urban area, its hard to justify not just using carshare/bikes/scooters instead of owning a car.
This is also an issue for most people on the west coast. Both my wife and I work for major STEM companies with degrees and we can't afford a house - have to rent a single garage duplex.
Derek said the 90's was 30 years ago and I have issues with these facts!
Excellent!
Love both early teen's cars and the most modern cars... and I have always been that way... heck, I'm really excited for our EV future. One can appriciate and be excited for both. I LOVE watching Jay Leno show off the 1910's, 20's, and 30's stuff... pre WWII or pre 1950 cars are some of my favorites! ..and I'm an 80's kid.
Hello and thank you from Ann Arbor!
2:33 That is awesome Hagerty. Manditory in N. Carolina for teens 15-17 to take expensive private driving instruction to aquire license permit. I took Driver's Ed in summer school in the 80s. Times they are a changing.
16:07 I can Vouch for that, my 09 Jetta 5 cyl. Its red line is not even its red line. They are tuned down for sure. Just an ARP computer tune only, bumps the RPM to 7,000. Also I would point out that volkswagen never got attention for APR Tuning the way AMG (Mercedes) or M Power (BMW) Yet APR Tuning is offered right at the Volkswagon Dealers without voiding warranty. Apparently is a big secret and ya gotta just know. 😅
Thanks for answering my Alfa Romeo question! I understand the answer, but I’d raise a counterpoint to it;
Everyone else is making a 150-250k+ supercar and they are selling them, i.e. MC20, Artura, etc., wouldn’t it help the brand more if they catered to that segment of the market instead of these 33 billionaires?
I think we all want Alfa Romeo to do well, which is why it makes cars like this so disappointing.
with inflation, the Mclaren F1 was easily as expensive as the Veyron. It was $800k+ USD.
A fundamental styling element of the Porsche 911? That mid-level line across the dashboard. 🙂
I dunno, Jason, I’m a Gen X’er, and my kids are definitely not interested in cars from any era.
Any kid who grew up playing Forza or Gran Turismo will be the ones carrying the torch.
I'm Gen Z (20years old now, I still feel like a kid. Are newborns still called Gen Z too?). I couldn't be more into cars. Currently in college to get more money to get more cars. Right now I'm just enjoying whipping around a Mazda 3 hatch at *reasonable* speeds. Some of us don't have money to get enthusiast cars yet. Believe me if I had a garage to fix it and money to get one I'd have a Fulvia in a heartbeat
Drivers License in Tennessee…. 10 question test, drive around the block. That’s it. No class, no 3 point turn, no parking. Just get 7 questions right and drive around the block.
Great episode, unfortunately I don't think those mugs specifically fund the safe driving campaign. They aren't listed in the collection on Hagerty's website and their page doesn't have the label that the other products do.
Jason...my question to you is i currently have a mk5 gti and i was looking at an mk7 golf r but the audi s3 in my area is cheaper should i still get the golf r or save my money and get the s3?
Hey guys aside from the panamera and AMG GT what would some of your options for a BMW 840i Gran Coupe be? Must be 4 door sedan. Thanks!
37:19 ya’ll sure about that?? If Human nature was to tend to efficiency….we wouldn’t have cars lmao. And we wouldn’t be having BIGGERER cars, or suvs that drive primarily on the road, or hyper EV sedans that are the weight of a house. The Human factor I think is motivated by a lot of things, but efficiency? Not really.
Efficiency is part of the best deal in front of the consumer at any given moment. Public transport limits your choice of path and what you can carry, so you won't miss the public service falling off if you've already bought a car.
But efficiency in a big picture sense? I'd argue that as a group, modern people are largely opposed to big picture anything.
Will you guys be at Radwood Phoenix?
I for one, welcome our new algorithm overlord ( all hail the algae rhythm 🎶💃🕺🎶 )
50:00 my mazda3 has nearly those exact speeds in each gear
-Interesting take on the transmission for EV's. Opel did make something that looked like the original Manta but as a low powed EV with a 4 speed (i think) manual with clutch. And the few guys who drive it said it increased the fun. (relatively light and low power but instant torque)
-hydrogen hydrogen is worse to store than normal liquid fuels (it needs cooling). E-fuels have a higher energy density than current batteries and we have 100years of transporting, fire extinguishing and control and we have the facilities of storing and distribution.
It makes more sense to make e-fuels than hydrogen. And the best thing for it is if we take the CO2 out of the air to make it into e-fuels. This way the amount of that stuff in the air gets either reduced or at least kept the same.
Regarding the 911 design evolution I really miss the cannon barrel headlight/fender styling. With aero improvements they've gone so flat instead of upright.
Could you improve on your 911 podcast? You missed a lot regarding 993. Could you please make transaxle episode? They're very much omitted.
Wait, what!? isnt a drivers license in the states like 20 bucks? xD "Can you touch your left ear with your right arm? Yes? okey, here's your license..." kinda deal?
Over here where I'm from, its like 2000€ unless you are a wonder wo-man and aces everything! xD
28:02 look at what Stellantis does, guys. The differentiating factor will become styling. Everything else will be the same, including the quality of materials and price, what will be different is whether you prefer the retro aesthetics of the FIAT or the more futuristic look of the Citroen or maybe the rugged look of the Jeep. Remember cars as clothes? That's where it's all going.
My guess is that Ford almost screwed up the Mustang when the Probe was supposed to be the replacement. I guess I'll find out in Icons.
These podcasts are going to be like the UNESCO World Heritage of cars. Someone needs to save them on optical disc for future generations.
You've gotta be talking about how they almost replaced the mustang with the probe...
Car company that held to the founding idea... Honda, there are no others
The reason some people may think American cars are slower is perspective. If you drive the streets of the US, with Chevy Malibus, Honda Accords and pickup trucks, and most of the European cars are Mercedes BMWs and Audis.. your perspective is skewed.
You aren’t seeing the crappy Peugeots, Citroens and Skodas.
I totally agree on making driver licenses more advance for the sake of driver safety. Finland 🇫🇮 drivers tests for All please.
Possible future topic for them: discuss how historically V12’s and other engine layouts with more then eight cylinders were actually a signal that a manufacture/industry had reached the limits of technical limitations of the engines era and had no choice to go up in cylinder count. Example: pre war cars manufactures developed high cylinder count cars due to metallurgy of the time not allowing greater power per cylinder. This is why Mercedes didn’t develop a V12 until the 70-80s they believed it wasn’t dignified to develop such an engine given that they had the greatest engineers.
Loved the commentary on design evolution of icons. I think the Camaro is a great example. Gen 2 (1970.5) was a huge departure from Gen 1 (1967 - 1969) and subsequent generations evolved that Gen 2 design. When they brought back the Camaro, the 'rebooted' Gen 1, which sort of worked. But for the follow up, they just updated that reboot of 1969 to fit the new (Alpha) platform. And, to my eyes, it doesn't work. If they had done a 'greatest hits' of all Camaros -- what you sort of described with the 911 -- they could have ended up with a stunner. Instead, they've ended the line with a very forgettable design.
The big reason the difference in baseline skill between the US and Europe is also just that it’s so easy to drive in the US. Less skill is necessary to drive on our wide roads. If Americans had to drive in European cities and on European backroads, we’d get better in a hurry.
BMW in San Francisco means BART, MUNI, WALK.
where where these questions taken from? the channel has such little presence outside of youtube that you say "we have solicited Q&A Q's" some weeks ago I genuinely have to wonder to myself; where? unless it was taken from members of the Hagerty drivers club I could only imagine these being taken from fans who email in their questions.
Right here. We asked for Qs on the podcast and asked people to leave them in the comments.
Lotus? With regards to remaining true to founders ethos
Number of young people LEARNING TO DRIVE falling in the UK...
Public transport is also falling. Wonder what will give. I imagine it still costs a bomb to operate a car.
Probably end up like Japan where kids stay in playing computer games with little human interaction
Jason's ADHD is on fire today!
35:00 transmissions in EV’s makes them worse. Ionic 5 N. 🎤
Amen to not putting junk miles to a car.
44:00 - Founders' legacy no longer recognisable...?
Two. Words.
Emm. Gee.
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Porsche C88 is very out of character with the manufacturer in the most quirky way
I think his name was tax the rich, those videos are cool as shit
questions from where? you guys have a discord?
a couple of episodes back they asked for questions, and to leave them in the comments only 👍
I really hope all the backlash to the “s650” facelift bs leads to a halt and changes to the car. It’s embarrassing for those of us who have been waving that flag for them to talk so much about this platform just to have it come and be a complete dud. Not any faster than what people did with s550s. Just more emissions hoops to jump through. One could argue that the GT models have only gone backwards since 2017 but that depends on what you are buying the car for
First 10 minutes are a double "How do you do fellow kids" moment with some extra groaning
On god fr fr
Well having gone to look at a beat 4 grand R53 project car and a brand new Cooper S, I can definitely tell you the changes happened inside.
Some stuff LOOKs nice on the R53 but you touch it and it's plasticky rubbish, meanwhile in the new one I'd have it over every other 1er, 2er Grand Corolla shitbox BMW is peddling these days.
The salesman asked us to look at a 1er and the difference between a base and a loaded one is hilarious. You go from hard plastics to squiggy and it's still got nowhere near the style the budget Bentley Mini has inside. The trouble is, the size. The original Mini could supposedly fit adults but in the R53 you choose between the driver driving and fitting someone in the back.
The last gen is barely bigger in the back than a new M2, let's say.
The size is a bit of an issue, for sure, and how they dealt with it with making it bigger like every customer said they should in terms of keeping the Mini MINI and small and tiny
It also lost a few little things aswell; the rocker switches used to be used to roll down the windows like in my BMW, in the middle. Now it's on the door and that's not the same.
Right now, I think the biggest ass-backwards move in the automotive industry is looking at the car that defined the prestige hatchback and deciding it should be an econobox like the original.
Mini is having a big identity crisis. I really wish they took all those same elements and made them smaller. I'd love to have a Mini, I've been a fan for a long time but it's a shame.
These should be enthusiast cars imo. At least to me, it's the most interesting of the cheap transportation devices (2CV, Beetle, 500) and they took the essence of that and put it in the R53.
Such a shame where it's going.
Also, studying to be an economist, nah Jason, you outclass all my economics professors 😅 Man, I hate em 😁
It’s obvious these guys need to look at the 996 again. They get distracted by the headlights as they rant about the flat front on the hood…
Only thing I hate about the upcoming car scene is the stupidity and celebrated illegal shit they do. While I am aware it is not totally across the board and I personally know several younger car people that are against this behavior but it is honestly killing the car scene in a lot of places because social media won't squash it. If they can't share it then it will stop happening on the scale it currently is.
51:02 you can't have car dependent cities and make it hard to get a driver's license... It doesn't compute. Which is yet another reason why walkable cities and car independence are good for enthusiasts.
In regards to companies that have strayed from their founder's intentions, how in the hell did you not mention Mazda?!?! They were one of the single greatest JDM sports brands and said "FUCK THAT! We're LUXURY NOW!"
Hypercars are supercars. The term Hypercar was invented by not so rich people who decided F430s and Gallardo a “supercar”