Great video. As a kid in '87, I had a Turbo Optima. It was essentially the same kit, except with a clear, lexan paintable body. The Turbo came with an upgraded LeMans 360PT motor. It was one of the fastest kits out of the box at the time. Thanks for bringing back some great core memories.
Simply the best rc build videos on this platform.. f1 style cleanliness and process.. and why not, these rc cars are performance based. I continue to follow with interest . Fabulous work as always.
Thanks for watching and glad it brought back some good memories! That was a nice RC for a 12 year old! And I feel the same way about those straps. Wish the mechanism was better.
@@MechanicAfterHours well my first was a lunch box my brother bought for me when I was 11. I built it ran the crap out of it every day for months. Tower had a special on it cause the optima mid was just out... I payed 129.99 for an original Javelin kit lol using money from my paper route to buy it. I took the radio from the worn out Tamiya and dropped it in. The original mech speed control was junk. My brother bought me a futaba 112b esc and a trinity 16t single 427 motor. I had a 30mph rc in the 80s lol. Those are the memories you brought with your vid. Remember better than yesterday lol. Thank you😭 I'm still in the hobby. Have a trx6, an arma felony, and sold my xMaxx last year. Now subscribed...
Thanks for sharing your memory and I love the story. Those were the days, and when I reminisce, for me it was the golden age of RC buggies, or just RC cars in general. I still have a pristine 427 :) but the second version (0002) that's a 16x2. Can't believe that Javelin price back then--but adjusted for inflation it's almost the same price as a re-re in today. Like there's no change in price. No wonder manufacturing has to move out of the origin country. Anyway, thanks for sharing and subscribing!
@@MechanicAfterHours I'm assuming it was discontinued. The mid was on the front of the tower catalogue back then. Well anyways, don't mean to take your time up... Keep building👍
Great build, great video, brilliant kit, i had one back in the day, won many races with it. I might just buy it again after watching this, i like this buggy and how you've finished yours. Excellent
Thanks, Gary! And thanks for watching. Glad to hear you won many races with it! One my favorite kits and build. You should get one before they stop producing it.
Hello there, I subscribed last night after watching you build the black beetle. I’ve never seen anyone build like you do, it’s like that show Monk. I love it, you are amazing.
Hi Jon. Thank you and thanks for watching! Appreciate it. Although I'm aware of Monk I've never watched it. I feel like a hermit. Haha! Gotta check it out
Might just buy myself my first kyosho kit, looks like it might be this one, I deserve it; just getting over covid, fat, and in my 50's, my two boys got grasshoppers for Christmas, I want to play too! That top chain channel looks like it might pick up some stones thought?
Thanks for watching, blimey oreily! You should get one or any Kyosho kit ;). As for the chain part, there is an acrylic cover that goes on top so it's enclosed. But if you're worried about it, the kit also comes with an optional belt. You can also use that with more powerful motors. Good luck! By the way, I think the Grasshopper is a really fun buggy.
Fantastic build, attention to detail is second to none. I just had an idea that could work on non plastic chassis. Like our everyday 1:1 vehicle could the chassis not be earth /negative? Just throwing it out there, not thought it through yet.
Hi Steven. Thank you and thanks for watching! Appreciate it. Not sure I understand all the science behind negative earth, not an expert on those but perhaps noise or static needs to be considered--affects the transmitters/receivers, etc.
Every ground attachment point would be a weak spot and a potential current increase. It works on full-sized cars because the surface areas are MUCH bigger. It wouldn't be a great plan on RC cars. And with an RC car you are more likely to have a positive short to the chassis due to the dynamic nature. So you would have to build a fusebox too. There simply isn't enough room.
Had the original. The shocks came pre-assembled (not filled) and the diffs were prebuilt too. The diffs were filled with heavy grease so even with a 10 turn mod motor on seven cells it never diffed out.
Thanks, Nic! Although I haven’t built that many kits yet, I enjoyed working on the Kyosho Scorpion the most. Even if it’s simple, almost everything fit quite well, assembly was quite smooth/intuitive, and I didn’t have to think much during the build-not because it was simple but because everything fell into place and made sense. The Javelin is up there too but the room for all the electronics isn’t enough. Some of the Scorpion’s parts are quite impressive especially for the price you pay-compared to a Tamiya of the same level. I think if I had another go building a Scorpion it can be done in an hour or less. Minus the body. Thank you for watching!
@@MechanicAfterHours when I was a kid I built a Frog, Hornet and a Toyota Celica but never a Kyosho. Always fancied one, I'll have a watch if your Scorpion video. Thanks for the reply =) PS. Love how neat you are, I'm the same.
@@MechanicAfterHours Sorry to hear that, I took few precautions in my younger days but now that I feel the effects I know better. It's mostly the chemicals I worry about. My SO sure prefers when my hands aren't all dry and cut up also.
Thanks and no problem. Yeah, it's something no one tells you about hehe. So now I have to be more careful. I even use disposable gloves when I clean cars because of the chemicals. My dad has it worse and his hands feels like a tree bark.
thanks for the videos. I really like your precision and how technical you are (also in choosing the kits). One silly question. Where can I buy those gloves?
Enrico DC, Thanks! And thanks for watching. It's not a silly question :). They are Ansell gloves. I believe you have to buy a set. I might be wrong but I've had them for a while and I think they were purchased from Uline in the US.
Thanks, Bert! Electronics: Ko Propo PDS-2514 Power servo, KO Propo KR-211FH receiver, Reedy SC550 ESC. I got the white body kit from Kyosho online (www.kyoshoamerica.com).
That was really nice! I did not actually know this car, how it's put together, the chain drive is really cool, makes me want to have one, ha ha! Really nice video as always, dude!
Although I have already built my Javelin, I am enjoying watching this video. I have a Turbo Optima on the way, which as you probably know is pretty much the same chassis, so I am looking for any mistakes I made on the Javelin, as well as any tips or information gleaned from your build. What is that tool used around the 10 minute mark after assembling the tie rods? Also, what tool are you using at 20:38? I enjoyed the music also. Great job all around!
Hi Tim, I'm glad you're enjoying the video. Congrats on getting a Turbo Optima! And yes, they're quite identical. I would say these re-release Kyoshos are truly beautiful kits with great quality. I sincerely enjoyed building this one. As for the tool, it's an RC shock pliers. It's really helpful and I would never go back without one. You can also use it for certain metal pivot balls that need to be set into tie rod ends, etc. as long as the size is right. You can also use it remove them. At the same time, they keep damper shafts from getting scratched when you need to tighten them. There are many brands but the one I use is a ProTek RC TruTorque Shock Shaft Pliers. It has slot placements for different shaft sizes. Good luck with the build!
@@MechanicAfterHours : Thanks for the reply and the info regarding the specialty tool. I'll look into that. Being back into RC after 35 years, I was so excited to see all the re-released models I so badly wanted, but couldn't afford back then. Now I'm able to and I'm enjoying being back in the hobby.
Not sure where you are but you can get it from Amazon. I can't remember the specific brand because it's been a while since I had it but it's a book holder. I hope that helps.
Impressive build video style! Is the front bumper brace plastic or aluminum? I ask because I broke the stock one on my vintage "turbo optima" and was curious if kyosho upgraded that part in the new kits.
Thanks for watching! I hope I understand what part you're referring to-if so it is plastic and I replaced it with the optional 7075 aluminum Hard Front Support Part Number OTW112 seen here: ruclips.net/video/SxlgVzzsFTo/видео.html
@@MechanicAfterHours Yes that is the part I just now saw that you wrote it in the video. I am glad you are using the aluminum one. Also, I was bewildered seeing some guys on youtube driving these pretty hard and fast because I do know that the chain can stretch and that over powering can wear out the sprocket. I wonder if kyosho made improvements for more power.
I try to limit the motor power on these re release cars. But I believe Kyosho has updated some of the parts (metal and stronger nylon pieces) to work with modern electronics like brushless motors and LiPo. In addition, if you want to go further, there’s an optional precision machined nylon spur gear (it’s bluish in color) designed for brushless motors. Included in the kit is a belt drive if you prefer to not use chain-and that also comes with a diff pulley designed for belt. Then there’s the slipper clutch and metal final gear case that’s included. As an option, you can use the Scorpion’s HD slipper pad to replace the stock ones and that’s what I did. Some indirect parts like the stock beefier shocks, newer aluminum parts, and optional universal shafts could help. Not sure what the power limit is with this Legendary series car but I personally would limit it and run the car for nostalgia over high speed.
@@MechanicAfterHours Hey thanks man for all the info. I recognize some of those hop up parts as they were mentioned on a custom ultima rebuild video and used with the 1987 IMFR champion. You almost need two kits one for driving one for shelf queen haha. Keep up the great content 🙂
i LOVE WATCHING ALL THESE VIDEO I CANT WAIT NOW TO RECEIVE MY JAVELIN AND I WILL BE WATCHING THIS WHEN I BUILD IT BUT I MIGHT PAINT MY FRAMES WHITE TOO AS THAT LOOKS SUPER SUPER COOL , ALSO I HAVE ISSUE WITH MY FINGER WHEN DRIVE CAR FOR LONG TIME MORE THAN 10 MINS FINGER STARTS TO GO NUMB AND CANT FEEL IT AND IT IS COLD AND HAVE NO CIRCULATION AS I AM NOW ALMOST 50 YRS OLD (46) I HAVE THESE ISSUE MAYBE FROM WORK TOO ALWAYS ON THE ELECTRIC FORKLIFT USE THE JOYSTICK NOW MY HAND GO BAD BUT THE BOSS HE DOS'NT CARE AS LONG AS HIS BOSS DOS'NT BOTHER HIM OH WELL LUCKY HAVE THE RC CAR TO KEEP HAPPY THANKS FOR GREAT VIDEOS MY FRIEND :-)
I would like to know what electric driver are you using and where I can get one? it is so small and looks very handy, I think it would be a great addition to my tools for building beadlock rims. Love the methodicalness of your build and your workstation. I would personally keep the rims black chrome is overrated and just too flashy for my taste. Now you can do what I did with my Tamiya F350 and make all the chrome into a black chrome, that would be sharp. great video!
Hi there. Thank you and thanks for watching! The driver is a Muchmore racing driver and if you look it up there should be various vendors selling it. It's ideal because the torque settings are limited vs other kinds of drivers so it helps a bit when you want to prevent threads from getting damaged. I didn't go with chrome wheels, on my part 2 video I ended up using black. Thanks!
Thank you and thanks for watching! The manual stand I was from Amazon, it’s just a generic book stand and is not branded. Had it for quite some time. I don’t know if I’ve used a drill here but I’m going to assume you’re asking about the electric driver, it’s a Muchmore driver.
Thanks for watching. If you want something newer with some upgraded parts the Optima Gold is a good choice. I believe Kyosho still makes 1/8 cars but probably it'll modern ones and some are nitro.
Hi Lucas Geniar. Thank you and thanks for watching. The gloves are from Ansell under Mechanical Gloves. Check their site as they have different kinds. Good luck.
@@MechanicAfterHours Thanks, found them at a local supplier and ordered a set, they look really good for hobby projects. For anyone else, it's the Ansell HyFlex® 11-618 www.ansell.com/eu/en/products/hyflex-11-618
Hi Lucas Geniar. Glad you found them! They are one of my favorites. I used to use them when I worked on my 1:1 cars. Had a stock of them so I still use them. I do have some nerve issues on my fingers and sometimes it bothers me, so the gloves help.
Awesome video. Enjoyed it a lot. I'm re-building a used rc car and would like to know about your workstations. Gloves I already found on amazon :D How about the rest. Can you make a short video about your workplace, please? :)
Thanks, Alexandru Covaliov! And thank you for watching. Glad you found the gloves! I probably will make a video series on tools but not the workplace :). Too private and not much to see--and the other half wouldn't find it entertaining ;)
Hi wheejee_rc. Thank you and thanks for watching! If you do want one I'd say you should get it if you come across one. The Javelin has been low on supply lately. I still have to upload a run video but it's relatively fast especially for buggies around that era. It shares the same chassis as the Optima. With the right motor and gearing you'll be able to get it up there. And perhaps using the supplied belt drive instead of chain. Although some of the components are updated (vs the original), you still have to consider that the chassis design was from 35 years ago. The motor I have in it is a brushed 16T double with about 30k rpm and so far it's not a problem. But it's very capable and solid, you just need to know what parts to upgrade. Good luck!
Definitely! Agree with you on that. I went with chain for nostalgia. But I think if you want to push it in terms of speed, belt might be more efficient/safer as it won't stretch the chain links. Me, I just put a reasonable motor to enjoy.
Awesome video, great music in the backround! I always like the Kyosho Javelin! One question: what brand and where did you get the easel to hold your manual? That's an awesome detail and one that I had thought of incorporating on our worktable. Oh BTW another new subscriber here! Again great video!
Hi Eddie, thank you and thanks for subscribing! The easel is just some generic brand that I've had for some time. It's labeled as a book stand and most likely Amazon will have it (if you have access to Amazon).
Whow!! I planing of getting mine too!! At the beginning did you bought the orange kit that we can find actually on the net? or did you find a kit without the body?
Hi frankymal, thanks for watching the video. So far mine hasn't leaked at all, I've ran the Javelin a few times and the shocks seems good so far. As a side note, I can see why it can be an issue. During the build I spent a little more time than I'm used to putting on the shock gaskets (plastic/polycarbonate-like material) onto the seal cartridges. Regarding the gasket, I'm used to seeing rubber o-rings on other kits/brands. So if the plastic gasket isn't put on carefully, they can rip or overstretch. The kit does come with a few spares, just in case. There are also o-rings inside that go over the shaft and I added some o-ring grease that's supposed to provide some sealing. But if the shocks on this Javelin starts to leak I'll figure out some solution for the gasket (maybe very thin o-rings and shock sealant for the seal cartridge).
Hi Marc, I used a stock Kyosho G2X 20T single brushed motor and the ESC is a Reedy SC550. But I would've preferred spending more and just getting a Kyosho Le Mans 240S 15.5T brushless motor (#37032) paired with a Le Mans 240S ESC (#37051). It's quite more expensive but probably worth it for this Legendary series. They're also listed as the optional parts in the manual.
Not sure if that’s the going rate for the Javelin in your country. They’re not as easy to find now but when it came out it was about $319 USD. But not sure how much they are now.
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately, it's not easy to find new in box ones nowadays. I don't know it they still make them or if it was a limited run. Aside from eBay, depends where you are, you can check RC hobby shops online in your country. Or you can check www.kyoshoamerica.com Good luck!
Thanks for watching, MisterBrown! It also comes with an optional belt drive if one prefers. Not sure what Kyosho's deciding factor was back in the day. If I think of motorcycles that use chain, belt, or shaft, I think that chain was a choice probably for a smoother drive and also helps with turns especially on rough terrain, less shock to the drivetrain during acceleration/braking, and less slipping. Seem like it's in between belt and shaft-and serious RC race kits nowadays are belt.
Hi there. Thanks for watching. Let me get back to you on this. I'd have to go back and check, and list everything. However, if you're really sold on the kit you should try to get it because the supply has been quite low.
@@MechanicAfterHours Thanks for your help! Actually I bought this kit two days ago. I couldn't wait to see the complete car, so I finished building the kit not adding the options. Wow, it's just... beautiful.
@EndlessBattery Wow! Congrats. Glad you were able to find one! You can also buy an Optima body shell if you want to switch things up when you get bored-just need to get some of the attachment parts. Sorry I haven't had a chance to go over the exact parts because the car was stored for the winter and I just pulled it out. However, on my other video where it's complete you might get an idea on what parts are in there. But, the motor was updated to a brushed Kyosho Hi Torque 16x2 motor (30k rpm), Reedy SC550 ESC, and some hard alloy parts like front support, servo area, and them gold kyosho optima turbo underbody-all Kyosho optional parts. Even the wheels and tires are Kyosho. The servo is a Ko Propo PDS-2514 paired with Ko Propo KR-211FH receiver. The wing is a Pargu wing and some pvc I cut to cover up some of the lower areas. I think that's pretty much it-aside from the decals. Anyway, glad you have one and I hope you enjoy it! Take good care of it!
I'm unsure about how long it will hold up for bashing purposes but I use a generic "acrylic white pen" with a smaller tip--about .6 to .7mm. It's water-based.
Hi there and thanks for watching. The re-issue is made in Taiwan. I'm not sure if there are some components in the kit that are from Japan. However, most of the Taiwan stuff is quite excellent since they've been producing RC parts and electronics for quite some time-and I'm sure the molds are the same from the original for most parts.
No problem. Unfortunately, there probably are far fewer made in the US rc related products-MIP still is. But even the American RC car brands are rarely made in the US and some have already been bought by other international companies-like Team Associated is now owned by Thunder Tiger (Taiwan) or HPI owned by Vestergaard (Denmark). I would prefer Kyosho to stay Japanese! I think the brand benefits from being a Japanese rc engineering company because they’re still making some exciting things. HPI used to do so much in the early days and after each acquisition not much has been going on.
@@MechanicAfterHours hi M A H... ' 2 different kyosho models are both countrys makes... kyosho blizzard is a china... kyosho car is a taiwan... mixs kyoshos are china / japan / taiwan... traxxas is a taiwan... tamiya is a big mix asia
Thanks for watching, Onni Hynninen! I do use brushless, but for some like this vintage car I like to use period correct motors just for character and nostalgia.
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Great video. As a kid in '87, I had a Turbo Optima. It was essentially the same kit, except with a clear, lexan paintable body. The Turbo came with an upgraded LeMans 360PT motor. It was one of the fastest kits out of the box at the time. Thanks for bringing back some great core memories.
Thanks for watching! Glad it brought back some good memories
I've watched some of your videos multiple, its almost therapeutic! Great work and presentation, really appreciate your effort.
Thank you
Simply the best rc build videos on this platform.. f1 style cleanliness and process.. and why not, these rc cars are performance based. I continue to follow with interest . Fabulous work as always.
Thanks! Thank you for the kind words and for watching :)!
Really appreciate your clean and organized workbench approach -- thanks for sharing your process!
Thanks, Curtis! Always glad to be able to share my builds/process. Thank you for the comment and for watching!
Love the 80's synth, Midnight Express-type music.
I like the '80s. Giorgio Moroder...
Don't screw with my disco Nadine!
Sick build along a sweet soundtrack. Great work!
Thank you and thanks for watching!
I 'm hella late to finding the channel, but you are awesome for posting these build videos. Thankee, Sai!
Thanks, funkchild75! I appreciate the feedback and thanks for watching.
Extremely theraputic, with great tunes!
Thank you and thanks for watching!
The Javelin was my 2nd rc car. It went together pretty easily for me as a 12yr old. I hated the battery straps though. Brings back good memories👍
Thanks for watching and glad it brought back some good memories! That was a nice RC for a 12 year old! And I feel the same way about those straps. Wish the mechanism was better.
@@MechanicAfterHours well my first was a lunch box my brother bought for me when I was 11. I built it ran the crap out of it every day for months. Tower had a special on it cause the optima mid was just out... I payed 129.99 for an original Javelin kit lol using money from my paper route to buy it. I took the radio from the worn out Tamiya and dropped it in. The original mech speed control was junk. My brother bought me a futaba 112b esc and a trinity 16t single 427 motor. I had a 30mph rc in the 80s lol. Those are the memories you brought with your vid. Remember better than yesterday lol. Thank you😭
I'm still in the hobby. Have a trx6, an arma felony, and sold my xMaxx last year.
Now subscribed...
Thanks for sharing your memory and I love the story. Those were the days, and when I reminisce, for me it was the golden age of RC buggies, or just RC cars in general. I still have a pristine 427 :) but the second version (0002) that's a 16x2. Can't believe that Javelin price back then--but adjusted for inflation it's almost the same price as a re-re in today. Like there's no change in price. No wonder manufacturing has to move out of the origin country. Anyway, thanks for sharing and subscribing!
@@MechanicAfterHours I'm assuming it was discontinued. The mid was on the front of the tower catalogue back then.
Well anyways, don't mean to take your time up... Keep building👍
Great build, great video, brilliant kit, i had one back in the day, won many races with it. I might just buy it again after watching this, i like this buggy and how you've finished yours. Excellent
Thanks, Gary! And thanks for watching. Glad to hear you won many races with it! One my favorite kits and build. You should get one before they stop producing it.
Thanks for another great video. You make the tire writing look so easy. I really struggle. Great looking build.
Thanks, Aro800! Not sure if it’s easy! Maybe it’s doing a lot of it and practice. Thanks for watching.
The javelin was my 2nd rc car back in the day. Such a awesome looking car even today
I feel the same way about how it still looks cool today! Thanks for watching!
Classiest channel on RUclips. Love your aesthetic and methodical build approach mate.
Thanks, Dan Walker! I appreciate the feedback and thank you for watching.
Hello there, I subscribed last night after watching you build the black beetle. I’ve never seen anyone build like you do, it’s like that show Monk. I love it, you are amazing.
Hi Jon. Thank you and thanks for watching! Appreciate it. Although I'm aware of Monk I've never watched it. I feel like a hermit. Haha! Gotta check it out
LoL. Monk. You're not wrong though.
@@MechanicAfterHours Definitely check out Monk. I think most R/C builders have a little, somewhere inside. Thanks for the video!
Hi Brian. Thanks for watching! Ok, I think I really need to check Monk out now hehe
ok, I did check Monk! haha! I haven't gone that far yet, at least I haven't put every pair of socks in individual zip lock bags. Hehe
Great music. Love the build too.
Thank you! And thanks for watching. Really appreciate it :).
Great Video!! Nice Setup and very nice build!
Thanks, Douglas! And thank you for watching.
Good content Good Sir. Enjoyed
Thanks! And thank you for watching.
Great video, awesome music, thx !
Thanks, Raw Bot! I appreciate it! And thanks for watching.
Loved the build, loved the music, love the hobby!
Hi David. Thank you and thanks for watching! Appreciate the comment!
Might just buy myself my first kyosho kit, looks like it might be this one, I deserve it; just getting over covid, fat, and in my 50's, my two boys got grasshoppers for Christmas, I want to play too! That top chain channel looks like it might pick up some stones thought?
Thanks for watching, blimey oreily! You should get one or any Kyosho kit ;). As for the chain part, there is an acrylic cover that goes on top so it's enclosed. But if you're worried about it, the kit also comes with an optional belt. You can also use that with more powerful motors. Good luck! By the way, I think the Grasshopper is a really fun buggy.
I love your videos.
Would you please consider doing a video on your tools and desk setup ?
Thanks
I still have my original Optima Mid in pieces some where around here. Needs a little TLC and some missing parts. I always loved the Javelin.
Hi Rob, thanks for watching! I wish I had an Optima Mid. That's a beautiful one too.
You want to buy any i have 5 original Optima mid SE 's, Javelin's, Optima Pro's, Salute's, all fully factory sealed from the 1980's
Salut,super réalisation,j, aimerait avoir le même dans ma collection bravo beau travail dans presision et la finesse
I didnt know they had chain drives, that's cool! I'm more of a axial and traxxas man.
Thanks for watching, SlumKnot! Axials and Traxxas are pretty cool! Would like to build one at some point.
Fantastic build, attention to detail is second to none. I just had an idea that could work on non plastic chassis. Like our everyday 1:1 vehicle could the chassis not be earth /negative? Just throwing it out there, not thought it through yet.
Hi Steven. Thank you and thanks for watching! Appreciate it. Not sure I understand all the science behind negative earth, not an expert on those but perhaps noise or static needs to be considered--affects the transmitters/receivers, etc.
Every ground attachment point would be a weak spot and a potential current increase. It works on full-sized cars because the surface areas are MUCH bigger. It wouldn't be a great plan on RC cars. And with an RC car you are more likely to have a positive short to the chassis due to the dynamic nature. So you would have to build a fusebox too. There simply isn't enough room.
Very nice and clean build, love it!
Thanks Jeroen! And thank you for watching!
Looks clean af!
This guy has true patience
Thanks hehe! And thank you for watching!
Had the original. The shocks came pre-assembled (not filled) and the diffs were prebuilt too. The diffs were filled with heavy grease so even with a 10 turn mod motor on seven cells it never diffed out.
Although I've seen the Javelin when I was young I never had the original and I'm surprised they came pre assembled and diffs... !
Great Video!!!!! What Equipment do you use in this Video? Tools, boxes and so on?
Thanks! Too many tools to list but maybe one day I can make a website to showcase the tools
@@MechanicAfterHours great, that sounds good:-)
Love this! I’m about to grab one of these kits. How did you paint the tires? I am struggling to find a suitable pain pen
Thanks, you might be able to find a pen with a very, very fine tip if the standard isn’t up to par. And it takes a little while, I try not to rush it
Thanks. Am trying 0.8mm and it’s a little cumbersome - not as neat as you make it look. I need to find my groove!
I've found your channel recently and it's great. Which is your favourite build so far?
Thanks, Nic! Although I haven’t built that many kits yet, I enjoyed working on the Kyosho Scorpion the most. Even if it’s simple, almost everything fit quite well, assembly was quite smooth/intuitive, and I didn’t have to think much during the build-not because it was simple but because everything fell into place and made sense. The Javelin is up there too but the room for all the electronics isn’t enough. Some of the Scorpion’s parts are quite impressive especially for the price you pay-compared to a Tamiya of the same level. I think if I had another go building a Scorpion it can be done in an hour or less. Minus the body. Thank you for watching!
@@MechanicAfterHours when I was a kid I built a Frog, Hornet and a Toyota Celica but never a Kyosho. Always fancied one, I'll have a watch if your Scorpion video. Thanks for the reply =) PS. Love how neat you are, I'm the same.
Thanks. Nic! I would like to have a Frog and do some custom work on it! Maybe one day.
@@MechanicAfterHours looking forward to seeing that.
When a man builds an rc car with gloves on, you know he's serious.
Haha! Apparently, the other half doesn't like calloused hands. Thanks for making me laugh and thank you for watching.
These gloves are all I can look at..
smokengreen, thanks for watching. I used to work on cars but I actually have nerve damage so it hurts touching with bare hands sometimes.
@@MechanicAfterHours Sorry to hear that, I took few precautions in my younger days but now that I feel the effects I know better. It's mostly the chemicals I worry about. My SO sure prefers when my hands aren't all dry and cut up also.
Thanks and no problem. Yeah, it's something no one tells you about hehe. So now I have to be more careful. I even use disposable gloves when I clean cars because of the chemicals. My dad has it worse and his hands feels like a tree bark.
Amazing build. I'm wondering if you could post a link to that instruction manual holder? That's brilliant.
Thanks, Adam! Sorry for the late response, the book holder is just from Amazon. Sorry no link as it was a purchase from a long time ago
thanks for the videos. I really like your precision and how technical you are (also in choosing the kits). One silly question. Where can I buy those gloves?
Enrico DC, Thanks! And thanks for watching. It's not a silly question :). They are Ansell gloves. I believe you have to buy a set. I might be wrong but I've had them for a while and I think they were purchased from Uline in the US.
Nice build, I have an Optima, very similar kit. Enjoy.
Thanks, Martin! Yes, quite similar! The Optima is great too
Great Vid! Can we get a list of the electronics/ controller used and maybe a link to where you got the white body kit? Thanks
Thanks, Bert! Electronics: Ko Propo PDS-2514 Power servo, KO Propo KR-211FH receiver, Reedy SC550 ESC. I got the white body kit from Kyosho online (www.kyoshoamerica.com).
That was really nice! I did not actually know this car, how it's put together, the chain drive is really cool, makes me want to have one, ha ha! Really nice video as always, dude!
Thanks again! And thanks for watching. It's one my favorites and you also get a belt drive with it but I think the chain is more fun and nostalgic.
Although I have already built my Javelin, I am enjoying watching this video. I have a Turbo Optima on the way, which as you probably know is pretty much the same chassis, so I am looking for any mistakes I made on the Javelin, as well as any tips or information gleaned from your build. What is that tool used around the 10 minute mark after assembling the tie rods? Also, what tool are you using at 20:38? I enjoyed the music also. Great job all around!
Hi Tim, I'm glad you're enjoying the video. Congrats on getting a Turbo Optima! And yes, they're quite identical. I would say these re-release Kyoshos are truly beautiful kits with great quality. I sincerely enjoyed building this one. As for the tool, it's an RC shock pliers. It's really helpful and I would never go back without one. You can also use it for certain metal pivot balls that need to be set into tie rod ends, etc. as long as the size is right. You can also use it remove them. At the same time, they keep damper shafts from getting scratched when you need to tighten them. There are many brands but the one I use is a ProTek RC TruTorque Shock Shaft Pliers. It has slot placements for different shaft sizes. Good luck with the build!
@@MechanicAfterHours : Thanks for the reply and the info regarding the specialty tool. I'll look into that. Being back into RC after 35 years, I was so excited to see all the re-released models I so badly wanted, but couldn't afford back then. Now I'm able to and I'm enjoying being back in the hobby.
@@toolman8269 No problem at all. Same here- couldn't afford it back then and I would just daydream and watch races. Time flies!
Nice build, I could one of those manual holders that keep the pages flat, and what brand is the torque screw driver your using?
Thanks, keithrx3c. I use a Gforce torque driver.
@@MechanicAfterHours Thanks, where would I find the stand you have for the manual?
Not sure where you are but you can get it from Amazon. I can't remember the specific brand because it's been a while since I had it but it's a book holder. I hope that helps.
Such a great car in its era.
Impressive build video style! Is the front bumper brace plastic or aluminum? I ask because I broke the stock one on my vintage "turbo optima" and was curious if kyosho upgraded that part in the new kits.
Thanks for watching! I hope I understand what part you're referring to-if so it is plastic and I replaced it with the optional 7075 aluminum Hard Front Support Part Number OTW112 seen here: ruclips.net/video/SxlgVzzsFTo/видео.html
@@MechanicAfterHours Yes that is the part I just now saw that you wrote it in the video. I am glad you are using the aluminum one. Also, I was bewildered seeing some guys on youtube driving these pretty hard and fast because I do know that the chain can stretch and that over powering can wear out the sprocket. I wonder if kyosho made improvements for more power.
I try to limit the motor power on these re release cars. But I believe Kyosho has updated some of the parts (metal and stronger nylon pieces) to work with modern electronics like brushless motors and LiPo. In addition, if you want to go further, there’s an optional precision machined nylon spur gear (it’s bluish in color) designed for brushless motors. Included in the kit is a belt drive if you prefer to not use chain-and that also comes with a diff pulley designed for belt. Then there’s the slipper clutch and metal final gear case that’s included. As an option, you can use the Scorpion’s HD slipper pad to replace the stock ones and that’s what I did. Some indirect parts like the stock beefier shocks, newer aluminum parts, and optional universal shafts could help. Not sure what the power limit is with this Legendary series car but I personally would limit it and run the car for nostalgia over high speed.
@@MechanicAfterHours Hey thanks man for all the info. I recognize some of those hop up parts as they were mentioned on a custom ultima rebuild video and used with the 1987 IMFR champion. You almost need two kits one for driving one for shelf queen haha. Keep up the great content 🙂
i LOVE WATCHING ALL THESE VIDEO I CANT WAIT NOW TO RECEIVE MY JAVELIN AND I WILL BE WATCHING THIS WHEN I BUILD IT BUT I MIGHT PAINT MY FRAMES WHITE TOO AS THAT LOOKS SUPER SUPER COOL , ALSO I HAVE ISSUE WITH MY FINGER WHEN DRIVE CAR FOR LONG TIME MORE THAN 10 MINS FINGER STARTS TO GO NUMB AND CANT FEEL IT AND IT IS COLD AND HAVE NO CIRCULATION AS I AM NOW ALMOST 50 YRS OLD (46) I HAVE THESE ISSUE MAYBE FROM WORK TOO ALWAYS ON THE ELECTRIC FORKLIFT USE THE JOYSTICK NOW MY HAND GO BAD BUT THE BOSS HE DOS'NT CARE AS LONG AS HIS BOSS DOS'NT BOTHER HIM OH WELL LUCKY HAVE THE RC CAR TO KEEP HAPPY THANKS FOR GREAT VIDEOS MY FRIEND :-)
Thanks, Andrew Magro! Good luck with the build, should be a fun one. And thanks for watching!
iconic buggy! :)
Thanks for watching!
I would like to know what electric driver are you using and where I can get one? it is so small and looks very handy, I think it would be a great addition to my tools for building beadlock rims. Love the methodicalness of your build and your workstation. I would personally keep the rims black chrome is overrated and just too flashy for my taste. Now you can do what I did with my Tamiya F350 and make all the chrome into a black chrome, that would be sharp. great video!
Hi there. Thank you and thanks for watching! The driver is a Muchmore racing driver and if you look it up there should be various vendors selling it. It's ideal because the torque settings are limited vs other kinds of drivers so it helps a bit when you want to prevent threads from getting damaged. I didn't go with chrome wheels, on my part 2 video I ended up using black. Thanks!
@@MechanicAfterHours thank you for the info, and good choice sticking with the black.
Awesome build! Where did you buy the manual stand? And which drill did you use?
Thank you and thanks for watching! The manual stand I was from Amazon, it’s just a generic book stand and is not branded. Had it for quite some time. I don’t know if I’ve used a drill here but I’m going to assume you’re asking about the electric driver, it’s a Muchmore driver.
@@MechanicAfterHours Yep I ment the electric driver :-) I'll try to find the book stand or one similar. Great for save some working space it seems :-)
@@MrCaprinut Good luck with the search!
I'm still trying to decide between this and the Optima Gold. I just wish there was some 1/8 tamiya or Kyosho's like this to build.
Thanks for watching. If you want something newer with some upgraded parts the Optima Gold is a good choice. I believe Kyosho still makes 1/8 cars but probably it'll modern ones and some are nitro.
Tried looking for this but can't really find it, which gloves are you using ?
Nice build btw :-D
Hi Lucas Geniar. Thank you and thanks for watching. The gloves are from Ansell under Mechanical Gloves. Check their site as they have different kinds. Good luck.
@@MechanicAfterHours Thanks, found them at a local supplier and ordered a set, they look really good for hobby projects. For anyone else, it's the Ansell HyFlex® 11-618 www.ansell.com/eu/en/products/hyflex-11-618
Hi Lucas Geniar. Glad you found them! They are one of my favorites. I used to use them when I worked on my 1:1 cars. Had a stock of them so I still use them. I do have some nerve issues on my fingers and sometimes it bothers me, so the gloves help.
Awesome video. Enjoyed it a lot. I'm re-building a used rc car and would like to know about your workstations. Gloves I already found on amazon :D How about the rest. Can you make a short video about your workplace, please? :)
Thanks, Alexandru Covaliov! And thank you for watching. Glad you found the gloves! I probably will make a video series on tools but not the workplace :). Too private and not much to see--and the other half wouldn't find it entertaining ;)
Wholly shit! Man you’re work is unreal so good to watch
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Awesome build! makes me want one. I'm in so much trouble! lol. How fast does this rad rig go?
Hi wheejee_rc. Thank you and thanks for watching! If you do want one I'd say you should get it if you come across one. The Javelin has been low on supply lately. I still have to upload a run video but it's relatively fast especially for buggies around that era. It shares the same chassis as the Optima. With the right motor and gearing you'll be able to get it up there. And perhaps using the supplied belt drive instead of chain. Although some of the components are updated (vs the original), you still have to consider that the chassis design was from 35 years ago. The motor I have in it is a brushed 16T double with about 30k rpm and so far it's not a problem. But it's very capable and solid, you just need to know what parts to upgrade. Good luck!
@@MechanicAfterHours I think the chain adds to the charm of this rig.
Definitely! Agree with you on that. I went with chain for nostalgia. But I think if you want to push it in terms of speed, belt might be more efficient/safer as it won't stretch the chain links. Me, I just put a reasonable motor to enjoy.
Awesome video, great music in the backround! I always like the Kyosho Javelin! One question: what brand and where did you get the easel to hold your manual? That's an awesome detail and one that I had thought of incorporating on our worktable. Oh BTW another new subscriber here! Again great video!
Hi Eddie, thank you and thanks for subscribing! The easel is just some generic brand that I've had for some time. It's labeled as a book stand and most likely Amazon will have it (if you have access to Amazon).
@@MechanicAfterHours Thank you for the information. I actually found one I really like on Amazon!
Cool! Glad you found what you’re looking for
I used to have one of these as a kid. Where did you find the kit?
Hi and thanks for watching. Bought it in the fall of last year. And depends where you are I guess. Supply has been low
Whow!! I planing of getting mine too!! At the beginning did you bought the orange kit that we can find actually on the net? or did you find a kit without the body?
Thanks, Nicolas! The orange roll cage comes with the kit. It's standard. The white one is aftermarket from Kyosho that I bought separately.
@@MechanicAfterHours thanks to you i bought it!! But... can't find the white body... maybe because of your video too!! 😉
Great vid thanks for posting, tell me do those red shocks leak at all? I've read it's difficult to keep the oil in them.
Hi frankymal, thanks for watching the video. So far mine hasn't leaked at all, I've ran the Javelin a few times and the shocks seems good so far. As a side note, I can see why it can be an issue. During the build I spent a little more time than I'm used to putting on the shock gaskets (plastic/polycarbonate-like material) onto the seal cartridges. Regarding the gasket, I'm used to seeing rubber o-rings on other kits/brands. So if the plastic gasket isn't put on carefully, they can rip or overstretch. The kit does come with a few spares, just in case. There are also o-rings inside that go over the shaft and I added some o-ring grease that's supposed to provide some sealing. But if the shocks on this Javelin starts to leak I'll figure out some solution for the gasket (maybe very thin o-rings and shock sealant for the seal cartridge).
Great to watch thanks.
Could you tell me what motor and esc you used please?
Hi Marc, I used a stock Kyosho G2X 20T single brushed motor and the ESC is a Reedy SC550. But I would've preferred spending more and just getting a Kyosho Le Mans 240S 15.5T brushless motor (#37032) paired with a Le Mans 240S ESC (#37051). It's quite more expensive but probably worth it for this Legendary series. They're also listed as the optional parts in the manual.
@@MechanicAfterHours thank you for taking the time to reply.
I looked at the Le Mans but too pricey for me.
Thanks again.
Marc, I updated the info. I actually used a Reedy SC550 ESC.
What kind of pen are you using on the wheels?
nice constructor, where i can buy it ? ))) if it sltill selling in the markets )
Thanks, Vladimir! I guess it depends where you are but online might be the best place or your local rc/hobby store. Got mine that way.
@@MechanicAfterHours ok, i foun one for 44k Yuanes, its about 400 USD!
Not sure if that’s the going rate for the Javelin in your country. They’re not as easy to find now but when it came out it was about $319 USD. But not sure how much they are now.
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Thanks, bfmvdu28! And thank you for watching.
in 2020 year kyosho use brushed motors ? :( I like how to work and i like music video
Thanks, Midas touch and thank you for watching. You can use brushless but I wanted to pair the kit with brushed since the car came out in 1987.
@@MechanicAfterHours I thought it came out 2020 sorry
No problem at all! The original came out in 87 and this is a 2017 re-issue of that model (but Kyosho did a few component upgrades).
which wrenches do you use?
.. maybe put the camera so close x see best details .. good selection of music...👍. .
Thanks, nerk23! I'll see what I can do (just don't have much room in my little space). But thank you for watching!
@@MechanicAfterHours ..😉
Where did the gloves come from bud they look great
Hi Matt Luszczak, they are Ansell Mechanical Hyflex Gloves.
@@MechanicAfterHours thanks bud
No problem and thanks for watching!
Excellent video, where can I get it?
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately, it's not easy to find new in box ones nowadays. I don't know it they still make them or if it was a limited run. Aside from eBay, depends where you are, you can check RC hobby shops online in your country. Or you can check www.kyoshoamerica.com Good luck!
Wow, didnt know they use a chain! Why not a driveshaft!?
Thanks for watching, MisterBrown! It also comes with an optional belt drive if one prefers. Not sure what Kyosho's deciding factor was back in the day. If I think of motorcycles that use chain, belt, or shaft, I think that chain was a choice probably for a smoother drive and also helps with turns especially on rough terrain, less shock to the drivetrain during acceleration/braking, and less slipping. Seem like it's in between belt and shaft-and serious RC race kits nowadays are belt.
Doesn’t this car give you the choice of chain or belt?
Yes it does
First music is "Antidote X", from Van Sandano
Do they come with brushless?
Thanks for watching, GroMyke H. The kit doesn't come with a motor or any electronics. However, you can install a brushless motor.
Currently watching this on the toilet
What?!! Haha! Made me laugh. Thanks for watching.
Still on the toilet
Could you let me know all the optional parts you added? I want to buy this re-released kit with 15.5T brushless motor and 2s Lipo battery.
Hi there. Thanks for watching. Let me get back to you on this. I'd have to go back and check, and list everything. However, if you're really sold on the kit you should try to get it because the supply has been quite low.
@@MechanicAfterHours
Thanks for your help!
Actually I bought this kit two days ago. I couldn't wait to see the complete car, so I finished building the kit not adding the options.
Wow, it's just... beautiful.
@EndlessBattery Wow! Congrats. Glad you were able to find one! You can also buy an Optima body shell if you want to switch things up when you get bored-just need to get some of the attachment parts. Sorry I haven't had a chance to go over the exact parts because the car was stored for the winter and I just pulled it out. However, on my other video where it's complete you might get an idea on what parts are in there. But, the motor was updated to a brushed Kyosho Hi Torque 16x2 motor (30k rpm), Reedy SC550 ESC, and some hard alloy parts like front support, servo area, and them gold kyosho optima turbo underbody-all Kyosho optional parts. Even the wheels and tires are Kyosho. The servo is a Ko Propo PDS-2514 paired with Ko Propo KR-211FH receiver. The wing is a Pargu wing and some pvc I cut to cover up some of the lower areas. I think that's pretty much it-aside from the decals. Anyway, glad you have one and I hope you enjoy it! Take good care of it!
can you recommend a paint pen for the tyres?
I'm unsure about how long it will hold up for bashing purposes but I use a generic "acrylic white pen" with a smaller tip--about .6 to .7mm. It's water-based.
@@MechanicAfterHours thank you
Nice 👍🏻
Thanks!
Kyosho had some descent cars at that time.
Definitely agree!
Kudos to those who watched this video in 2x
Thanks, Blender Forever! Thanks for watching
how fast is the vid sped up?
It's not! He's that fast!
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what country made this Kyosho Javelin 4WD
Hi there and thanks for watching. The re-issue is made in Taiwan. I'm not sure if there are some components in the kit that are from Japan. However, most of the Taiwan stuff is quite excellent since they've been producing RC parts and electronics for quite some time-and I'm sure the molds are the same from the original for most parts.
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hi M A H...
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thank explain...
wish american made R/C kyosho models
No problem. Unfortunately, there probably are far fewer made in the US rc related products-MIP still is. But even the American RC car brands are rarely made in the US and some have already been bought by other international companies-like Team Associated is now owned by Thunder Tiger (Taiwan) or HPI owned by Vestergaard (Denmark). I would prefer Kyosho to stay Japanese! I think the brand benefits from being a Japanese rc engineering company because they’re still making some exciting things. HPI used to do so much in the early days and after each acquisition not much has been going on.
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hi M A H...
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2 different kyosho models are both countrys makes...
kyosho blizzard is a china...
kyosho car is a taiwan...
mixs kyoshos are china / japan / taiwan...
traxxas is a taiwan...
tamiya is a big mix asia
What is that pit mat?
Suchender W, it’s a Husky drawer liner.
@@MechanicAfterHours thx
bro get a brushless motor like some team orion neon they are way better than brushed and more reliable
Thanks for watching, Onni Hynninen! I do use brushless, but for some like this vintage car I like to use period correct motors just for character and nostalgia.
I need some tweezers, a micrometer and rubber gloves.
Luckily you had gloves on. Useing them kind of tools
Paul, thanks for watching! Haha ;)
aLSO mUSIC IS aWESOME - gREAT sOUNDTRACKS
Thanks!
Music is not good.
Hi redfish6. Thanks for watching. Sorry the music isn't good. I'll try better next time.
@@MechanicAfterHours it's nothing, it is not serious.
keep making us dream !!!
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Thanks! Will do!