"Here once was light, that the Valar begrudged to Middle-earth, but now darkness levels all. Shall we mourn here deedless for ever, a shadow-folk, mist-haunting, dropping vain tears in the thankless sea? Or shall we return home? In Cuiviénen sweet ran the waters under unclouded stars, and wide lands way about, where a free people might walk. There they lie still and await us who in our folly forsook them. Come away! Let the cowards keep this city!" Tolkien wrote the Silmarillion to sound deliberately archaic and biblical and that's where the weight of every single word comes from. Most beautiful book I have ever read.
I had the fortune to discover JRR and Blind Guardian almost at the same time, in the late 90's, and read The Silmarillion for the first time while listening to Nightfall in Middle Earth that had just been released. Just epic.
" hear my words! fear my curse!" These frightening words of Mandos gave them a choice .. but Feanor's wound was too big and his spirit too hasty. That's very sad.. Melkor you will be damned forever!
@@mikediamantakis5528 One of the most badass Elvish kindreds in the First Age was actually the Vanyar. It is hard to imagine those cute and pretty elves having a warlike nature, but they did prove to be very powerful allies during the War Of Wrath, and Melkor showed great interest in them and the Noldor while he was allowed to wander free in Valinor (which is implied by the fact that he only found the Teleri to be of little value).
@@mikediamantakis5528 I am not sure how much training the Vanyar got in warfare - probably not that much, since they hung out in Valinor almost constantly, and thus rarely got into war. However, they did gain a lot of natural strength from their long visit in Valinor, and they were also commonly known as the "spear-elves", which implies that they liked using spears, so they probably used those weapons when they went out hunting and things like that.
Mandos did nothing wrong, he can see the future, but he is also a judge, thus he must let the people, especially Erus children decide their own destiny, he can't effect it, it is not his business to do, he only judges them after their deeds. It is Feanor's fault that Noldors are cursed. You can't blame Manwe either, he is pure good, i think in a way every Vala is a creation of Illuvatar, he made them by his own picture, and gave each one of them a tiny piece of himself, that's why Melkor became evil, he was the most powerful, yes, but he was also the only one that contained that greedy part which every being has, which eventually made him pure evil.
Manwe is naive though. And Feanor did nothing wrong either. Well burning the ships and overextending were wrong but that's it. It's the Valar's fault for being blind and passive. And most of all, of course, Melkor's, but he's the villain so you'd expect that.
If it were not for Faenor's decision to pursue Morgoth, all of Middle Earth could be corrupted and the Elves of Beleriand destroyed. He brought the Noldor back to fight against evil. I would applaud that.
The Silmarillion is Tolkien's closest peer to GRR Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire in style - and far more epic! A Song of Ice and Fire is low-scale, dirty, and cynical, whereas The Silmarillion is at times glorious and at others tragic, large-scale, and always apex high fantasy.
people often say Tolkien is too soft, too traditional, etc, but the tale of Turin Turamabar could easily rival the best parts of A Song of Ice and Fire in darkness and high drama.
@@DeriDraws Circumstances were different at the time he was writing .. with a world in a turmoil, he didn't care about more intrigues. Peolple and him of course needed their minds to travel in other realities. to forget even for a while their personal dramas...
'Tears unnumbered you will shed" ... not "shet. Also, that's not Fëanor leading the Noldor across the Helcaraxe. That's Fingofin. Fëanor took the ships across the sea and left Fingofin stranded (hence he had to take the way of the Grinding Ice).
I don't think it is Eru speaking. I think it is FIngolfin speaking. "Guilty spoke the one, this deed can't be undone". It is Fingolfin because it says "we were lost on grinding ice". So it is Fingolfin or one of his people. If it is Fingolfin then he would be referring to "the one" as Mandos. Since in the book it claimed that one of the servants of Mandos (or even possibly Mandos himself) stood on a cliff and spoke this Doom to them. Hope that helps. :)
1 track before this track in the band album there is a speech of an elf is inside the snow and hunger....(dead winter reigns) he means the elves of fingolfin who took the mountain path after Feanor abadoned them after he burned the ships of teleri
"Therefore Feanor halted and the Noldor debated what course they should now take. But they began to suffer anguish from the cold, and the clinging mists through which no gleam of star could pierce; and many repented of the road and began to murmur, especially those that followed Fingolfin, cursing Feanor, and naming him as the cause of all the woes of the Eldar." -The Silmarillion Of the Flight of the Noldor
Pretty interesting how the warriors on the image at 3:25 are actually high elves. That's not what you would normally associate with elves in Tolkien's stories, especially not the extra noble and beautiful high elves.
Have you read the Silmarillion? The Eldar who saw the light of the trees, including the Noldor, are indeed high elves. Galadriel is of this lineage, which is why she is shown with such light and power in film. Morgoth himself feared the high Lords of the Noldor. They were nearly akin to the Maiar
Tolkien named them all as elves in The Silmarillion, to the best of my recollection. And, if I may be permitted to recall correctly a second time, the Nandor/Avari were just another name for the Teleri that didn't cross over (to add to my earlier comment). So, it all comes down to the Vanyar, Noldor and Teleri. The Teleri /must/ be elves; else, why would the slaying of the Teleri by the Noldor be named the "Kinslaying" (the slaying of kin or family) in Tolkien's writings?
Vanyar, Noldor and Teleri are of the three elvish (Quendi) families who's ancestors were invited to join the Valar in Aman. Not all journeyed West; those who did not were deemed the Moriquendi, as they had never seen the light of the two trees and were thus not enriched by them in strength and wisdom. They are certainly still elves and kin, unlike the Atani, or men. The kinslaying occurred in Aman itself when the Noldor slew many Teleri and stole their boats to head back to Middle Earth.
All Elves who set out West to Valinor are Eldar. The ones who refused to even attempt the journey are the Avari ("The Unwilling"). The Elves who didn't even cross the Misty Mountains are the Nandor (Although, one group-The Laiquendi...sp?-did eventually cross into Beleriand), as well as the Elves who never entered Beleriand. The Sindar were the Teleri who refused to travel to Valinor without their king, Elwë, who was lost in a trance with his soon to be wife, Melian. The rest of the Teleri in Beleriand chose Olwë, Elwë's brother, as their king and made it to Valinor (They dwelt on Tol Eressëa, right by Valinor, for a while first). While the Sindar were Moriquendi, they were far more culturally and materially advanced than other "Dark Elves".
S#@T! Yeah, didn't mean to imply there weren't three main groups of Elves (Vanyar, Noldor, Teleri). Even the ones who remained to Middle-earth kept many of the characteristics of their group, but in Valinor each group reallllllly came into their own and flourished in their distinct ways. In Beleriand, I would say that the Sindar who lived with Círdan along the coasts showed more stereotypically obvious tendencies and attributes of the Teleri, while the Sindar of Elwë's realm remind me of a mix of the Nandor/Noldor/Teleri.
There were multiple sub-races of elves. They all began as a group of the first elves who became sundered from their kinsmen when they went to live in separate places. They were the Teleri, Noldor, Vanyar, and Avari. The Avari were elves who did not go to Valinor.The Teleri began, but not all finished the journey. The Noldor went to live in Valinor, as did the Vanyar, but they lived in different places, had different relatives, distinct features, etc. You're both wrong and right.
"Tears unnumbered you shall shed" is in fact the first words of the Doom of Mandos, and some of the most famous- I am not ashamed to admit I squeed when I saw that. :)
The Valar and the other Eldar were content to let the elves, men and dwarves of Middle Earth suffer under Melkor's rule while they lived alone in paradise. The Noldor were the only ones to take a stand against Melkor's evil. They weren't even the only ones responsible for the first kinslaying: The Noldor only tried to take the Teleri ships, yet the Teleri reacted in such a manner that it was they that practically started the conflict. It took centuries for the Valar to react to Morgoth's crimes. Why should the Noldor be painted as mistaken?
Yes the Noldor were 100% responsible for the fisrst kinslaying, whnen they demanded the ships the Sea Elves who made those ships and considered them their greatest treasure simply said no, and they adviced the Noldor to reconsider what they were doing. Killing people is not an appropriate response to that. The Noldor are mistaken because yhe Oath of Fëanor did absolutely nothing to stop Morgoth and only hindered the effort of the Free people. What the Noldor should have done is making their own damned ships but Fänor knew that if his people had time to cool down they would probably change their mind that is why he forced their hands. The worse part is that when they were offered pardon after this most of them refused. when you still consider yourself in the right after murdering your peaceful kinsmen you deserve a lesson. But you are right that the people in ME should not have suffered for the sins of the Noldor.
I'm not saying that the Noldor weren't responsible for the first Kinslaying, but the Teleri did not hesitate to draw blood for the sake of their ships.
You've written "the Teleri reacted in such a manner that it was they that practically started the conflict". I read in the Silmarillion (French translation by Pierre Alien so my rewording in english might be a bit off) that Fëanor "waited in tdarkness under the walls of Alqualondë, for his army to be gathered. Once he judged his forces to be enough, he went to the Swann Port and took the ships who were anchored there by force. But the Teleri foght back and drove a gret many Noldor to the sea. Then the swords rose..." The Noldor came armed in acity that wasn't their to take the locals belongings. The Teleri were entirely justified in fighting back.
What else should they have done ? Lay back and think of England ? As a nation you simply cannot allow a foreign army to just roll in and take your stuff. Angband, these ships were probably their main source of food being a port and all.
As always I remark, this bad example of pointy ears should be told between all mountain kingdoms as honorless murderers, fortunately lots of us know. We have never disappointed our Holy Aulë.
The elder race was as their maker made them, unlike the adopted children his servant made. And in the end, It was Men who inherited Arda. Not Elves, not Dwarves. Men, and perhaps the Halflings, who are somehow related.
It takes a lot of guts to rise up against such shitty gods and go after the strongest one. #FeanordidNothingWrong #TheValardidEverythingWrong #ManweisaPieceofShit #MyBoyUlmoforPresident
That is so true! You'd think a king holding a Silmarill would stop and think, 'hey, do I really want this gem that is cursed to bring war, death, etc on my kingdom... even if it is a beautiful gem?' The other Elves could have prevented the slayings (after the first original one, which would have been hard to prevent).The Feanorians really were trapped, Maedhros even asked "But how shall our voices reach Ilúvatar beyond the Circles of the World?" The Valar might forgive them, but how to ask Eru?
feanor was trapped inside his own rage against melkor and against deception and the poison of melkor's evil after the vala forgave him for the destruction of the 2 lamps before the second betreyal with the 2 trees...but i think he was trapped in his own magnificence and fate because he created the 3 gems that ended up to be the destruction and the savour of life in middle earth :D damn
But it's also kind of nice to think that Manwe was so good he didn't understand evil... how even did Melkor become evil anyway? Did he just randomly decide to be evil and start singing bad stuff into the Ainulindale? Or was there something about him asking Eru for the Flame Imperishable first???
He was frustrated and infuritated because he didn't have the power to create as he saw fit. And because of that, he wanted to destroy everything out of envy.
Yes, greed and revenge are everywhere. It's quite sad, especially because most leaders of the human race would do the same! But then again, like Maglor said, if Eru doesn't agree and neither do Manwe and Varda, was the Oath ever valid in the first place?!? (Although simple solution: "Eonwe! There you are! Can you ask Manwe and Varda to release us from the Oath and to ask Eru to release us from the Oath?" "You're willing to give up the Silmarils? Sure!" Cue happy Nerdanel and furious Feanor.)
I know they all were Elves, but I mean I think the subdivision "Noldor" qualifies as a race. But I'm pretty sure the Nandor started out but turned aside near Lothlorien, whereas the Avari never left Cuivienen. Eru only knows what happened to them and where they are now. (A few, like Eol, made it to Beleriand.)
This song is great! When I read the Silmarillion, I blamed Mandos more then the Noldor. He really did not speak up when it may have helped. If he had spoken up more then maybe the Noldor would not have fallen (or if Manwe had not been so naive as to believe Melko repented)? I sympathize with the Noldor & always hoped for a happier fate in the end for the Feanorians... I feel Feanor went insane & his children were drawn into it and later trapped by it. They are my favorite Elves.
@@mordredthemightymetalhead292 Weird to see someone symphatizing with both Maeglin and Tuor. People usually love one of them and hate the other. Also, why Tuor? I'd say that Hurin was more deserving of sympathy than Tuor, seeing how the latter ended up as an immortal in Valinor.
Jess Caron it's Fingolfin, he was on his way to Alqualonde along with Fingon when the kinslaying was taking place, and it's not clear in the book if he participated in the battle
I don't see the grinding ice thing anywhere, and I think the narrator switches often during the song (bridge to chorus would be a natural switch spot). I guess it would be Mandos then... but maybe Eru told Manwe to tell Mandos to do that? Has Mandos ever been referred to as "the one" in Tolkien's books? (And I'm so confused because I keep thinking of the Ring of Power and Neo...)
The fact that this song exists is AMAZING.
Beautiful comment.😇
Agree
this is one of the comment of all time
"Here once was light, that the Valar begrudged to Middle-earth, but now darkness levels all. Shall we mourn here deedless for ever, a shadow-folk, mist-haunting, dropping vain tears in the thankless sea? Or shall we return home? In Cuiviénen sweet ran the waters under unclouded stars, and wide lands way about, where a free people might walk. There they lie still and await us who in our folly forsook them. Come away! Let the cowards keep this city!" Tolkien wrote the Silmarillion to sound deliberately archaic and biblical and that's where the weight of every single word comes from. Most beautiful book I have ever read.
I listen to this song meanwhile when I read Noldor part in Silmarillion,Tolkien is fucking genius without doubt!Thank you professor JRR Tolkien
Used to listen to Blind Guardian a lot when reading LOTR, now I'm reading Silmarillion, so I have that urge again!
I had the fortune to discover JRR and Blind Guardian almost at the same time, in the late 90's, and read The Silmarillion for the first time while listening to Nightfall in Middle Earth that had just been released. Just epic.
Damn I envy you all who can do that, I wouldn't be able to focus
@@aandrei99 Same haha, i would start singing with the song and forget what happened in the story
" hear my words! fear my curse!" These frightening words of Mandos gave them a choice .. but Feanor's wound was too big and his spirit too hasty. That's very sad.. Melkor you will be damned forever!
I can't help but imagining Fëanor playing electric guitar and singing this, in battle array.
Made my day! xD
Oh my Eru I'm not the only one!
Fëanor would be an awesome metal artist.
Heck, almost all the elves in Tolkiens' stories look like they came straight from a power metal band.
@@mikediamantakis5528
One of the most badass Elvish kindreds in the First Age was actually the Vanyar.
It is hard to imagine those cute and pretty elves having a warlike nature, but they did prove to be very powerful allies during the War Of Wrath, and Melkor showed great interest in them and the Noldor while he was allowed to wander free in Valinor (which is implied by the fact that he only found the Teleri to be of little value).
@@mikediamantakis5528
I am not sure how much training the Vanyar got in warfare - probably not that much, since they hung out in Valinor almost constantly, and thus rarely got into war.
However, they did gain a lot of natural strength from their long visit in Valinor, and they were also commonly known as the "spear-elves", which implies that they liked using spears, so they probably used those weapons when they went out hunting and things like that.
Its Tolkien's best book in my opinion
This song is a masterpiece. It doesn't matter if you agree or not. It's a fact.
I regret nothing!
You shouldn't have advanced beyond your van in such haste :/
As expected, Fëanor.
The quenta Sillmarllion should be named
FEANOR NO!!!
HAHAHA, your kids cannot enter my realm you dramatic boy.
@@himadrisharma9935 it definitely has the theme that a lot of things go wrong because Feanor was butthurt
Mandos did nothing wrong, he can see the future, but he is also a judge, thus he must let the people, especially Erus children decide their own destiny, he can't effect it, it is not his business to do, he only judges them after their deeds. It is Feanor's fault that Noldors are cursed. You can't blame Manwe either, he is pure good, i think in a way every Vala is a creation of Illuvatar, he made them by his own picture, and gave each one of them a tiny piece of himself, that's why Melkor became evil, he was the most powerful, yes, but he was also the only one that contained that greedy part which every being has, which eventually made him pure evil.
Periods exist for a reason.
Nah, fuck him.
You are an idiot xD Anyone would do the same... You must understand this.
Manwe is naive though. And Feanor did nothing wrong either. Well burning the ships and overextending were wrong but that's it. It's the Valar's fault for being blind and passive. And most of all, of course, Melkor's, but he's the villain so you'd expect that.
If it were not for Faenor's decision to pursue Morgoth, all of Middle Earth could be corrupted and the Elves of Beleriand destroyed. He brought the Noldor back to fight against evil. I would applaud that.
The Silmarillion is Tolkien's closest peer to GRR Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire in style - and far more epic! A Song of Ice and Fire is low-scale, dirty, and cynical, whereas The Silmarillion is at times glorious and at others tragic, large-scale, and always apex high fantasy.
exactly friend... tolkien speaks from other dimensions, he is epic as hell.
people often say Tolkien is too soft, too traditional, etc, but the tale of Turin Turamabar could easily rival the best parts of A Song of Ice and Fire in darkness and high drama.
@@DeriDraws Circumstances were different at the time he was writing .. with a world in a turmoil, he didn't care about more intrigues. Peolple and him of course needed their minds to travel in other realities. to forget even for a while their personal dramas...
Gotta say this .., anybody who thinks ASOIAF is cynical is very, very wrong.
@@andrewlawson7388 He means it is cynical compared to Silmarillion. It is not truly cynical of course, comparison with Silmarillion is just too high:)
'Tears unnumbered you will shed" ... not "shet. Also, that's not Fëanor leading the Noldor across the Helcaraxe. That's Fingofin. Fëanor took the ships across the sea and left Fingofin stranded (hence he had to take the way of the Grinding Ice).
@Orange Man Rad I'll believe that if I see official lyrics like out of a CD or something.
@@cyclone8974 shet isn't a word
It says "shet" in the lyrics printed in the CD.
As a grown man this is the only song that makes me tear up.
Feanor is the embodiment of Metal
This song gets at least 5 times better after reading silmarillion
I don't think it is Eru speaking. I think it is FIngolfin speaking. "Guilty spoke the one, this deed can't be undone". It is Fingolfin because it says "we were lost on grinding ice". So it is Fingolfin or one of his people. If it is Fingolfin then he would be referring to "the one" as Mandos. Since in the book it claimed that one of the servants of Mandos (or even possibly Mandos himself) stood on a cliff and spoke this Doom to them. Hope that helps. :)
1 track before this track in the band album there is a speech of an elf is inside the snow and hunger....(dead winter reigns) he means the elves of fingolfin who took the mountain path after Feanor abadoned them after he burned the ships of teleri
"Therefore Feanor halted and the Noldor debated what course they should now take. But they began to suffer anguish from the cold, and the clinging mists through which no gleam of star could pierce; and many repented of the road and began to murmur, especially those that followed Fingolfin, cursing Feanor, and naming him as the cause of all the woes of the Eldar."
-The Silmarillion Of the Flight of the Noldor
This is a really beautiful song for The Silmarillion... love it!
Best Blind Gaurdian song ever! This is my absolute favorite.
hey i just wanna say thanks for the 1000 views
more than 100.000 now, thank you!
epic song indeed. Blind Guardian made a masterpiece!
Alternate title for this song: Gnome Way Home.
Noldoooooor!
Pretty interesting how the warriors on the image at 3:25 are actually high elves. That's not what you would normally associate with elves in Tolkien's stories, especially not the extra noble and beautiful high elves.
Have you read the Silmarillion? The Eldar who saw the light of the trees, including the Noldor, are indeed high elves. Galadriel is of this lineage, which is why she is shown with such light and power in film. Morgoth himself feared the high Lords of the Noldor. They were nearly akin to the Maiar
YOUR HOMELESS SOULS SHALL COME TO ME THERE'S NO RELEASE!
why didn't you put the picture of Helcaraxe for the part where they say "grinding ice"? :P
A truly epic song. Thanks for putting this up. I noticed the picture at 5:20 was cover art from a Battlelore CD.
So many typos though
Tolkien named them all as elves in The Silmarillion, to the best of my recollection. And, if I may be permitted to recall correctly a second time, the Nandor/Avari were just another name for the Teleri that didn't cross over (to add to my earlier comment). So, it all comes down to the Vanyar, Noldor and Teleri. The Teleri /must/ be elves; else, why would the slaying of the Teleri by the Noldor be named the "Kinslaying" (the slaying of kin or family) in Tolkien's writings?
Vanyar, Noldor and Teleri are of the three elvish (Quendi) families who's ancestors were invited to join the Valar in Aman. Not all journeyed West; those who did not were deemed the Moriquendi, as they had never seen the light of the two trees and were thus not enriched by them in strength and wisdom. They are certainly still elves and kin, unlike the Atani, or men. The kinslaying occurred in Aman itself when the Noldor slew many Teleri and stole their boats to head back to Middle Earth.
All Elves who set out West to Valinor are Eldar. The ones who refused to even attempt the journey are the Avari ("The Unwilling"). The Elves who didn't even cross the Misty Mountains are the Nandor (Although, one group-The Laiquendi...sp?-did eventually cross into Beleriand), as well as the Elves who never entered Beleriand.
The Sindar were the Teleri who refused to travel to Valinor without their king, Elwë, who was lost in a trance with his soon to be wife, Melian. The rest of the Teleri in Beleriand chose Olwë, Elwë's brother, as their king and made it to Valinor (They dwelt on Tol Eressëa, right by Valinor, for a while first).
While the Sindar were Moriquendi, they were far more culturally and materially advanced than other "Dark Elves".
S#@T! Yeah, didn't mean to imply there weren't three main groups of Elves (Vanyar, Noldor, Teleri). Even the ones who remained to Middle-earth kept many of the characteristics of their group, but in Valinor each group reallllllly came into their own and flourished in their distinct ways.
In Beleriand, I would say that the Sindar who lived with Círdan along the coasts showed more stereotypically obvious tendencies and attributes of the Teleri, while the Sindar of Elwë's realm remind me of a mix of the Nandor/Noldor/Teleri.
i'll have to read the silmarillion..
There were multiple sub-races of elves. They all began as a group of the first elves who became sundered from their kinsmen when they went to live in separate places. They were the Teleri, Noldor, Vanyar, and Avari. The Avari were elves who did not go to Valinor.The Teleri began, but not all finished the journey. The Noldor went to live in Valinor, as did the Vanyar, but they lived in different places, had different relatives, distinct features, etc.
You're both wrong and right.
"Tears unnumbered you shall shed" is in fact the first words of the Doom of Mandos, and some of the most famous- I am not ashamed to admit I squeed when I saw that. :)
Noooooldor
I think it's supposed to be shed and dwell not shet
The description basically says Blind Guardian's name twice.
"epic song by blind guardian"
The words "epic" and "Blind Guardian" are the same thing XD
The Valar and the other Eldar were content to let the elves, men and dwarves of Middle Earth suffer under Melkor's rule while they lived alone in paradise. The Noldor were the only ones to take a stand against Melkor's evil. They weren't even the only ones responsible for the first kinslaying: The Noldor only tried to take the Teleri ships, yet the Teleri reacted in such a manner that it was they that practically started the conflict. It took centuries for the Valar to react to Morgoth's crimes. Why should the Noldor be painted as mistaken?
Yes the Noldor were 100% responsible for the fisrst kinslaying, whnen they demanded the ships the Sea Elves who made those ships and considered them their greatest treasure simply said no, and they adviced the Noldor to reconsider what they were doing. Killing people is not an appropriate response to that. The Noldor are mistaken because yhe Oath of Fëanor did absolutely nothing to stop Morgoth and only hindered the effort of the Free people. What the Noldor should have done is making their own damned ships but Fänor knew that if his people had time to cool down they would probably change their mind that is why he forced their hands.
The worse part is that when they were offered pardon after this most of them refused. when you still consider yourself in the right after murdering your peaceful kinsmen you deserve a lesson.
But you are right that the people in ME should not have suffered for the sins of the Noldor.
I'm not saying that the Noldor weren't responsible for the first Kinslaying, but the Teleri did not hesitate to draw blood for the sake of their ships.
You've written "the Teleri reacted in such a manner that it was they that practically started the conflict". I read in the Silmarillion (French translation by Pierre Alien so my rewording in english might be a bit off) that Fëanor "waited in tdarkness under the walls of Alqualondë, for his army to be gathered. Once he judged his forces to be enough, he went to the Swann Port and took the ships who were anchored there by force. But the Teleri foght back and drove a gret many Noldor to the sea. Then the swords rose..." The Noldor came armed in acity that wasn't their to take the locals belongings. The Teleri were entirely justified in fighting back.
They were justified, but was it really worth it to shed the blood of other elves for the swan ships?
What else should they have done ? Lay back and think of England ? As a nation you simply cannot allow a foreign army to just roll in and take your stuff. Angband, these ships were probably their main source of food being a port and all.
yes this is true indeed i was tired
As always I remark, this bad example of pointy ears should be told between all mountain kingdoms as honorless murderers, fortunately lots of us know. We have never disappointed our Holy Aulë.
Agreed! Elves suck, Dwarves rule!
The elder race was as their maker made them, unlike the adopted children his servant made.
And in the end, It was Men who inherited Arda. Not Elves, not Dwarves. Men, and perhaps the Halflings, who are somehow related.
Noldor's were fraction of Elves, not a race.
Better than the rings of power
Aiiiiiii, I love this song so sos osoooooooooo much...... almost as much as Feanaro loved shiny things i think :)
you know man the meaning of these words is similar we can indentify them
Feanor did nothing wrong
3:36 didnt know that fingolfin fought with a lightsaber....
Not for all it seems...Too few people nowadays using the word 'Noldor' have never read Silmarillion etc...
Careful what songs you get addicted too when young. Imma whistleblower over this track
what is araman ???
It takes a lot of guts to rise up against such shitty gods and go after the strongest one.
#FeanordidNothingWrong #TheValardidEverythingWrong #ManweisaPieceofShit #MyBoyUlmoforPresident
Самая лучшая баллада от Слепых Стражников!!!Крик "LiiiieeeS" вырезал и поставил себе на рингтон.Жаль, что вся песня не помещается....
That is so true! You'd think a king holding a Silmarill would stop and think, 'hey, do I really want this gem that is cursed to bring war, death, etc on my kingdom... even if it is a beautiful gem?' The other Elves could have prevented the slayings (after the first original one, which would have been hard to prevent).The Feanorians really were trapped, Maedhros even asked "But how shall our voices reach Ilúvatar beyond the Circles of the World?" The Valar might forgive them, but how to ask Eru?
feanor was trapped inside his own rage against melkor and against deception and the poison of melkor's evil after the vala forgave him for the destruction of the 2 lamps before the second betreyal with the 2 trees...but i think he was trapped in his own magnificence and fate because he created the 3 gems that ended up to be the destruction and the savour of life in middle earth :D damn
I mean that's probably why Maglor threw his in the sea
@@kyledayton7829 Exactly
Sad about the album is ripped out from Spotify this month 😢
The NOLDOR ended up in pendor btw
I've always thought that Noldor is a race and Elf is a species...
But it's also kind of nice to think that Manwe was so good he didn't understand evil... how even did Melkor become evil anyway? Did he just randomly decide to be evil and start singing bad stuff into the Ainulindale? Or was there something about him asking Eru for the Flame Imperishable first???
He was frustrated and infuritated because he didn't have the power to create as he saw fit. And because of that, he wanted to destroy everything out of envy.
maybe i have made a mistake
euxaristo kale mou fill na se kala
Yes, greed and revenge are everywhere. It's quite sad, especially because most leaders of the human race would do the same! But then again, like Maglor said, if Eru doesn't agree and neither do Manwe and Varda, was the Oath ever valid in the first place?!? (Although simple solution: "Eonwe! There you are! Can you ask Manwe and Varda to release us from the Oath and to ask Eru to release us from the Oath?" "You're willing to give up the Silmarils? Sure!" Cue happy Nerdanel and furious Feanor.)
thx man....
@Shchetchynianin The definition of race is a distinct population of a species.
better will it just CLINGS to you from the beginning though the vocabulary fits its time you can still understand it
And that is why you always listen to Mandos. :)
I know they all were Elves, but I mean I think the subdivision "Noldor" qualifies as a race. But I'm pretty sure the Nandor started out but turned aside near Lothlorien, whereas the Avari never left Cuivienen. Eru only knows what happened to them and where they are now. (A few, like Eol, made it to Beleriand.)
pente asterakia apo emena kai thn euxh mou na vre8ei atomo na parakolou8hsei olo to video
Mandos foreseeing the future of the Noldor...
i love noldor oh excuse me Noldor or Golodhrim or Gódhellim
ellhnas agorina m?
btw i agree with u it's a masterpiece
Can someone animate this album please
@TheJosefman then you should enjoy Battlelore as well
Or, alternatively, the Doomed Shiny Obsessives, the Obligatory Victimized Group, and the Smart Ones.
@ZeeFerKooL
Xaxaxaxa! EEEttttssssssiiii !!!!!!!!!
@y2killian I'll pick it up sometime
is this from Feanor's or Fingolfin's POV?
It looks like Fingolfin who was right
This deed can't be undone
i love this song
@MegaElros oloi sta live ton Maio !
best piece of music on the album imo
@Pegs099 tha eimai ekei
very good man!!
This song is great! When I read the Silmarillion, I blamed Mandos more then the Noldor. He really did not speak up when it may have helped. If he had spoken up more then maybe the Noldor would not have fallen (or if Manwe had not been so naive as to believe Melko repented)? I sympathize with the Noldor & always hoped for a happier fate in the end for the Feanorians... I feel Feanor went insane & his children were drawn into it and later trapped by it. They are my favorite Elves.
I sympathise more with Maeglin, Túrin Turambar, Tuor, Lúthien and Galadriel...
@@mordredthemightymetalhead292 Weird to see someone symphatizing with both Maeglin and Tuor. People usually love one of them and hate the other. Also, why Tuor? I'd say that Hurin was more deserving of sympathy than Tuor, seeing how the latter ended up as an immortal in Valinor.
I agree!
Альквалондэ...
@banedeath me too :D
All true, I think. :)
@RadelWitchHunter Agreed, the movies changed too much of LotR. Bloody movie makers, afraid of making long movies...
Who is the narrator for the "the blame's on me 'cause I was not there" part? Finarfin???
Jess Caron it's Fingolfin, he was on his way to Alqualonde along with Fingon when the kinslaying was taking place, and it's not clear in the book if he participated in the battle
He probably didn't. Maybe his sons.
I don't see the grinding ice thing anywhere, and I think the narrator switches often during the song (bridge to chorus would be a natural switch spot). I guess it would be Mandos then... but maybe Eru told Manwe to tell Mandos to do that? Has Mandos ever been referred to as "the one" in Tolkien's books? (And I'm so confused because I keep thinking of the Ring of Power and Neo...)
Feanor did nothing wrong!
He killed the see elves
@@cenekromanowski3604 Memeworthy comment.
I think the Noldor were a race of Elves. Whether the Sindar and Nandor and the poor Teleri are is up for debate, but definitely the Vanyar and Noldor.
Wait, Eru yelled at them too or did he just tell Namo to doom them? (Guilty spoke the one...)
I hate Feanor more and more every time I read Silmarillion
Yeah, they butchered Frodo, Faramir, and Elrond...
FYI Noldor is plural of Noldo.