Switching to Linux? Don't sleep on Debian 12. Install Guide (2024).
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Switching to Linux? Don't sleep on Debian 12. This step-by-step guide will walk you through the install process. Simple, clear, and easy to follow. Perfect for beginners. Watch now and take control of your tech.
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LMDE6 is how a distrio is done: The best of two worlds. Rocksolid Debian 12 core with a modern and beautiful Linux MInt Cinnamon desktop.
I use LMDE and love the distro, it just works.
Good to hear! I'm glad LMDE is growing in popularity.
@@Community-Compute It works much better! The newer graphic cards and parts have full compatibility due to it using newer kernels.
Great video. I switched from Windows to Debian about 2 years ago. I have not looked back.
I use Debian stable with XFCE. I only download from the synaptic package manager. I have never run it any issues. It is smooth, stable and runs very quietly.
Thank you so much for spreading the word about Debian 😊
Thanks for commenting! Debian Stable + XFCE is a stability match made in heaven😆. Synaptic is great -- I was thinking about doing a video on it -- specifically on how to use it to backport a kernel for users with newer hardware.
Nice! I use Debian an XFCE even on servers, you never know when you need that GUI access for the win.
I am a recent Linux convert. I have been using Linux (specifically Debian 12.6) for a little over a week now. I must echo your words that it is very easy to use. The command line is not something I shy away from. I am making it a point to embrace the command line but I'm very glad that you can get around Debian without it if you choose.
Main distros are always the best.
After lots of distro hopping. I settled with Debian using xfce. Its not that complicated to install and set up. It feels like a modernized windows xp
Yeah it does! There's even some themes out there to make it look exactly like XP or even older... I think Windows 98 too 🤣
@@Community-ComputeIt’s fascinating how wide the range of XFCE customization is, spanning all the way from a retro Windows 98 style to a modern macOS style.
@@SirChristoferus Yeah, good point. I've seen some really modern and sleek XFCE desktops on Reddit!
Nice work.
In the olden days, choosing the correct ISO was a daunting task for new users. Good times.
Fedora is the bomb. Very very easy to install.
Yeah, I've come around on Fedora. I like it!
i agree with your intro. Debian is a solid and good choice. I still think it should be number 1 or 2 on distro watch. One reason is that ubuntu and others are based on debian, and 2 , after trying so many distros gentoo and arch included, Debian IS the best. Of course.
As you can see, I use Debian, Of Course!!!!!!
cheers
Thanks for reaching out! I agree, I always come back to Debian, although I love Arch too.
Thanks! I am a linux user since 2001 patching RHEL 3.0... I can only say I always come back to Debian.... I install it even on staff computers in Kenya. Like slow Windows all in one machines, that turn into snappy workstations. I like Gnome environments, it is a bit faster then browsing from a start menu
I would like to see Steam and running a game + benchmarks if possible
I'm actually posting a video about that in just a few minutes!
Personally, any user would easily use Debian if it weren't for its outdated installer and absurd defaults. There's also the complicated setup related for networking in Debian's installer which almost all Linux distributions don't even have. Lastly, setting up partitions in Debian is something that needs getting used to (I advise you to modify the partition spaces a little bit because Debian's recommended partitions spaces only creates 1GB of swap which is just ridiculous to me. It's not enough for most programs).
If those things get changed/fixed, then Debian would surely be more eye-catching for other users. The stability of Debian is already its ace up its sleeve, it just needs some polishing in its installer.
Btw, I use Debian 12 KDE myself, installed using the net installer. After I set my swap to 2x my RAM, my PC is now everything I could have asked for. (My previous attempt of Debian only had 1GB of swap and most of my programs kept freezing because of it).
Ah yeah, fair points. I actually kinda like the Debian installer. I find it easier to use and more intuitive than Fedora's, for example.
I guess I didn't notice the swap issue. I'm running 32 GB of ram so I've just never run into the need for a large swap.
Thanks for commenting.
New Linuxer here. I have only ever used LMDE 6. Went with Debian based Mint exactly for the stability. I haven't done it your way, doing Debian itself and choosing the desktop afterwards, I did the ready LMDE-6 Faye download, checksum to make sure I had the right content and got on with it. I watch other Linux guys and learn. And as such, I learned that KDE has dis-synchronised updates, whereas Gnome is in line with other updates it relies on, which can lead to less trouble. Linux can be prone to breakages when things are not done unisono. So KDE may look similar to Windows, but it may have pitfalls when it comes to updates and system breaks, frustrating new users. Noticed other Linux guy, praising KDE plasma 4 months ago and now complaining his system is breaking when trying to do some video editing. He didn't say why that was, I learned it from the other guy. There are so many choices, so many misfits between them and many Linux guys only scratch the surface when it comes to informing new users what the pros and cons are. And there is a lot to cover, with all those distros. It is a Linux jungle out there LOL. But I am still sticking with Linux for the future, fed up with the Microsoft's shenanigans.
Hey there - thanks for commenting! Glad things are going relatively well for you with the transition.
Yep, there is a lot to learn and a lot of choices - but in my view that's the beauty of Linux! We have competition and collaboration on top of open standards. You as the user have the choice in how you want your system to be structured and how it behaves.
You can't go wrong with LMDE or Linux Mint for a 'just works' distro. You don't really have to tinker with those. I recommend Debian with KDE for beginners (I think GNOME is great too, btw!) because it's relatively straightforward and familiar, but at the same time it doesn't hide anything from the user. I want to teach people how to fish -- how to solve problems, even if it's from a GUI and not the terminal.
As for KDE, you're right, especially in rolling release distros, it can be unstable. It's best to stick to stable KDE releases, which is generally what Debian does. They settle on a mature version and stick with that for the entire duration of the release (e.g. Debian 12). That means you don't have to worry about KDE-specific updates breaking your system. When the next major Debian release rolls around, (13), you'll get the latest stable KDE release with all of its new features, all at once!
While your assessment is correct it isn’t something you should have to worry about, that’s a distributions job to ensure all their packages are in sync with each other. On release based distros(Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, opensuse leap) them *not* being in sync and causing issues is a release breaking bug. In other words, they will either delay the release or hold back the newer packages causing the problems, either way you won’t have issues.
So you’d be fine using KDE on Debian and most other distros that offer it as choice or spin(like opensuse, kubuntu, Fedora etc) that are on a release based schedule. Rolling release distros(arch, opensuse tumbleweed, Debian Sid) won’t break things intentionally either but they simple have less time to notice problems and sometimes require manual intervention to repair issues.
Thank you
Debian was known for stability it was the most stable system ever the down side was that it had old software and it came only with free software in 12 they bundled the free and nonfree
If that text isn’t available, you can boot Windows, and when the login screen presents, you can hold the SHIFT key, then click the power icon, and click Restart. Confirm if if gives a “someone’s logged in message”. This will bring up a Troubleshoot menu, where you can find an option to boot into UEFI Interface. This reboots your computer to the motherboard BIOS/UEFI menu to accomplish the tasks outlined in the video.
Forgive me, this was in reference to if you don’t see any text when trying to boot your laptop into BIOS/UEFI. Some systems show nothing, and the shift-reboot strategy (which works when logged in as well) works for all UEFI users. BIOS-only generally shows it.
Thanks for sharing! That's good info.
I've found i love pretty much all the distros. as long as they have KDE. lol.. MX is my daily though. All my old macs are running some kind of Linux. Using Z Shell you can switch back and forth from OSX to Linux pretty seamlessly.
I came out of windows OS it’s difficult to find the right Linux distribution I like Ubuntu or Linux mint I like Debian 12 too you get the idea there all great as far as Linux I have vanillaOS on a external hard drive which is ok to bad but used Debian 12 I’m trying to find out what I like more some how I keep comeing back to Debian all the Linux distribution I like more than others but!….no worries ☺️we all been threw that before I’m sure i saw a video about cachyOS I like too anyways……happy searching ☺️
Upgrading to Ubuntu 24.10 broke AppArmor, and therefore the Snaps that Canonical pushes for it. Instead of trying to duct tape things together further, I decided to reinstall the OS completely, and distro-hopped to Debian Cinnamon. So far I've been really satisfied with it; it runs all of the stuff my Ubuntu install had, but with a little less bloat and a little more flexibility (like better flatpack support without forcing snaps like Firefox).
Thanks for sharing. What do you think about Cinnamon? I've used Mint before, but I'd like to try out Cinnamon on Debian.
@@Community-Compute it's my personal favorite desktop out of what I've tried. Xfce is nice if you're a macOS fan, so I'd put it in second in my opinion. KDE is beautiful, but every time I've used it, it's been incredibly buggy and unstable. Gnome seems to be fairly well balanced on resource use, but I've run into several bugs on it with large file transfers. Out of all of them, I've found I like Cinnamon the best; it's stable, clean and runs smooth. I've especially liked it on Debian so far, so I highly recommend giving it a shot if you haven't tried it.
@@LinuxAficionado Awesome, I wasn't aware that they had an auto upgrade tool. That's great for non-techncial users!
Ok never mind I see now how you did that I think !
Awesome! Yep, unccheck Debian Desktop environment if you don't want GNOME, and then check the one you want.
5:00 you can just hold down the key
Your user is not in the sudo?? Go into the start menu, search 'users', open and make your user an administrator. type in the root password, and you're good to go. (Alternatively, edit the etc/suderos file, and add [your user] ALL=(ALL:ALL) =ALL next to it, and save. You'll see an example of the root user there)
Even if I don't sleep on Debian and it'll sleep on me. Lets granny sleep already
Ventoy, it totally changed the game, never go through the process of writing an ISO again.
Thanks, I'll give it a try!
I would but my job is using M$ products...
MXLinux is Debian stable on easy-mode.
I've never used MXLinux, but I always see it in or near the top spot in Distrowatch, so I'm definitely curious!
@@Community-Computeerf... MX linux is a No Go. And there isn't upgrade capabilities. And it's... Well...
@@Community-Compute It's awesome. It has optional repos for testing, backports, MX testing, flatpak, non-free. And the suite of in-house app/utils by antix is 2nd to none! Even better than the Mint team. It uses init/sysv by default but you can enable systemd with a single change. For wanting Deb and none of the Ubuntu drama and updated [optional] aps, MX is the best I've ever seen.
Crunchbang++ is my choice over MX.
@@OpenBASED I run Crunchbang++ fluxbox on my Asus EEE netbook from 2000...something. Keepin' the dream alive 😆
If this is what I want to do can I uncheck Debian desktop environment and choose either cinnamon and or LXDE an or KDE Plasma ? Meaning if I uncheck the first one up there I can check one of the 2 i mentioned so it will boot into on of them ? Sorry for the confusion
Yep, uncheck the Debian Desktop environment, and check whichever one you want to install.
yes. It is just a preset default choice because most people would be lost if they forgot to install a desktop, but debian will be happy to install with no desktop at all, or all of them if you want ^^ and any mix in between
I have a question, I want to install Linux on my grandparents PC. They obviously are slow learners. They run Win10 now, but even that OS I had to tweak to look like WIn7 to not get them confused (ex Start menu). I'm looking at Debian (for stability) as the go to distro for it has the Arc Menu extension that almost looks exactly like the Win7 Start menu. There's only one problem ... maintaining it. Where WIn10 is pretty much self maintained and updates are install while rebooting, for Linux you need that damn intimidating password which they never will remember. Is there some way to not need a password and updates installing automatically ? Maybe another distro ?
Thanks for reaching out! I think Debian 12 would be a fine choice for your grandparents. You could set it up like you mentioned with Arc Menu, or even use something like Cinnamon as the DE.
As for the automatic upgrades, you have a few options. Most of the graphical update tools can be added to the sudoers file so they can be run elevated as default (some security implications here), or you could look into this package: wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades
You can set it up to not require the user to enter a password.
Hope that helps!
To be honest, if your grandparents are used to the layout of Windows 7 and 10, my recommendation is to go with Linux Mint straight up. It will be an easier learning curve. I use Debian in my computers as I am getting away from Windows 11. Yes Debian will be more customizable. However, troubleshooting answers will be easier to find in the Mint Support Forums.
Also, Mint has a Debian Edition without Ubuntu packages called LMDE. If you do not want anything to do with Ubuntu and Canonical.
@@giancarlolugo7048 Can't go wrong with Mint either!
Thank you all very much for your replies, it do see why Mint is being recommended, but the start menu is vastly different from Win7. I also looked into the Debian unattended updates and got it working, though I think this only updates security patches on the main update channel, not the apps. So I'm also interested in knowing how exactly you can disable the need to enter a password when updating (edit: found it). For now I'm going to play around in LMDE as suggested. Thanks !
I feel like ubuntu is not as fast. I dual boot linux on my alienware and somehow on ubuntu it’s not fast at all. In fact it is laggy sometimes. I switched to linux mint but I hate it bc it’s just like windows. Tried manjaro but still didn’t like it. Now I use debian and i love it. It needed a lot of extra installation to make it good, but when I’m finished I absolutely love it.
That's awesome to hear! Yeah, it does require more tinkering, but the upside is that you can really build the system you want!
Which desktop environment did you choose, btw?
@@Community-Compute I'm using Gnome. I like the look of Gnome. Gnome has some issues such as lack of scaling option, but it doesn't bother me that much.
GNOME sucks. Looks like desktop of mobile, touchscreen device (smartphone, tablet etc.) no pc or laptop.
It's definitely a different take on the desktop! Im not a big fan, but I can see the appeal.
Tip for the next video: prepare your story better than in this video, this is pure amateurism. Sorry to say this, but that's what I saw.
Jeez, that's pretty harsh. I'm just sharing my passion with people who might be interested. And you're right -- it's the very definition of amateurism in that I'm not getting paid for it
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@janmussche6815 Dude, what do you expect of a brand new channel? Just tell him that it'd help to be more concise and leave it at that, no use in being needlessly rude
Debian 12 have ISOs with calamares installer now better for a new user than netinstall. As someone using a new pc from 2023 i find linux mint, fedora and arch to be better for new drivers. Also all the desktop environments on debian comes without any modern themes installed. Mx Linux (debian 12 based) is also good for new users but it has less desktop environments unless you install manually. To any new user out there stay away from all distros that are company owned/based like ubuntu and fedora.
A good, beared to the bone, "core" distro, however still not easily dealing with multiple language pack (locales) out of the box. If you have an IME language situations (like Japanese or Korean for ex.) it is still pretty difficult to have them installed (including necessary fonts etc). So I prefer those Debian derivatives (Ubuntu?) that help you with that.
Ah yeah, I hadn't considered the set up for non-latinate languages. Great point.
i prefer ventoy for multiple distros. anyway good vid
Mint's LMDE 6 is Debian 12, and with Mint's Cinnamon desktop it makes Debian great to use, even Debian and Ubuntu has grabbed onto the Cinnamon desktop, and gives it's creators the credit, which is Linux Mint. But none of the copies match up to Mint's Cinnamon, close, but no cigar, such as Ubuntu still has their horrible software center that barely works, and that garbage spyware Snap, which in their Ubuntu based version Snap and all the other Ubuntu garbage is gone.
I am following this 100%, but when I go to install the flatpak, the konsole reports a bug.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Package flatpak is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
xdg-desktop-portal
E: Package 'flatpak' has no installation candidate
This is blocking
For years I couldn't use Debian because the software I needed was not available in the standard way, I was having to use PPA's which is not great and does have a risk, which is why Debian didn't allow PPA's. But now that Flatpak can be used with Debian changed that for me. Flatpak is up to date software and works great. Ubuntu with their Snap just doesn't work well, and is spyware, it phones home to give a report on what you're doing, plus Snap has older software than the system ones, which makes it pointless. Debian 12 is fantastic, but like I said to get the full flavor of enjoyment from it and easy to use, go with Linux Mint's Debian Edition LMDE 6 that has the the Cinnamon desktop that is Mint's creation, and everybody is putting it as a flavor of desktops to pick from, but they all lack the full integration that it's creators Linux Mint do with their distributions.
1:20 My first thought when that cut happened is based on the face you made, you had to take a quick rage break to deal with the incessant popups in your Windows VM. You've truly done everyone a service stepping back down into the poisoned waters of Windows to show people the way out
🤣 - it truly was painful! At least it was just a VM.
Hope mine works
A great thanks for your vid. Is has been really enlightening for me. I'll give it a try no doubt.
Update: Done! It is no doubt the better distro so far for me. I did all things as you explained (except I made the bootable USB with Rufus). I have a little annoyance: on reboot (or on start) the process stops in a screen with this message: "GNU GRUB version 2.06 Minimal BASH-like line edditing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions. grub> _ "
The only way to go ahead is pressing TAB, and then tapping 'exit', but this is working most of the time, not always.
Is there any simple way to bypass that step? My old laptop is entirely dedicated to Linux. I have no other OS installed. Thanks for your help.
Hey! Yeah, I've seen that before. I think your BIOS might be pointing to the wrong OS (could be another, old install in GRUB). Check your boot order, and make sure your most-recent Debian install is in the top spot. Make 1 change, save & restart and test. Just do that until you find the right one. Sometimes it can be difficult to tell if there's multiple entries for Debian (from past installs).
unplug the window....install the Linux then if you want re-plug win....
don’t forget the iso & go in bios fore you-re choice of start-up disk!
The flatpack install was an eye opener on how to extend the default software library. Thanks for showing, really useful 😎🙏
Really glad to hear that you found it helpful!
Yeah that was a good addition to the video, Flatpak is great esp for new users (helps not trashing their system).
flatpaks are huge bloated packages and totally unnecessary. Theres nothing wrong with with the normal debian (.deb) packages.
@@Jimbo-v3m Keep living in the 90's, everyone else will enjoy the ISOLATED, UP-TO-DATE, and PORTABLE flatpak apps while you spend hours fixing your install due to missing .deb dependencies and incompatibilities...
@@mhavock its not just me thats happy with deb packages....theres literally millions of people who think the same.
The Debian Xfce Calamares iso after installation shows the wrong time for the Netherlands. It's 2 hours later🤔 This is a first because this never happened before. BTW I use Debian based MX Linux Xfce.
Interesting! Do you know if there's a bug report for that yet?
@@Community-Compute didn't search for it. I installed MX Linux🙂
As you are in The Netherlands, you are currently, (June 2024,) in CEST (Central European Summer Time.) CEST is UTC (Coordinated Universal Time, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time,) + 2 hours. It sounds like your bios real-time clock is actually set to CEST rather than UTC, and that your system is configured to assume your bios real-time clock is running UTC while actually running local time. Most Debian installers I have come across, ask you if your bios clock is set to UTC or not. If this one does not, the fix is easy. Go into your bios and set your bios clock to UTC. With you being in The Netherlands that would be local time -2 hours, (again assuming June 2024 and CEST.) This is exactly the time difference that you report. As a rule of thumb, for any Linux distribution, set your bios real-time clock to UTC before you boot and install. Also tell your installer that the bios real-time clock is set to UTC.
If you had set your bios real-time clock to UTC before installation, you would not have had any time discrepancies. If the installer missed asking you this question or, you somehow missed the question, you would not have had the wrong time on your XFCE Calamares Desktop. Using, never attribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance, I have explained to you, what I think went wrong with your install. It is fine that you are using MX Linux instead of Debian 12 and, that you really like it. To each his own.
P.S. your comment sounds hateful rather that helpful. It does not resolve the issue and you clearly state in your replay to @Commity-Compute that you could not be bothered to figure it out,
Just switch from debian to Fedora better then ever
Hi there - thanks for commenting! I hope you're enjoying Fedora. For my part, I prefer community-driven distros. To each their own!
Started with Redhat 5 in 1999. After a while, I ended up on Mint for about 10 years. Recently tried Fedora, didn't work. Back to Debian LXQT, but run Openbox & haven't found a reason to leave.
@@Community-ComputeFedora is a community driven distro tho..
Instead etcher I would recommend ventoy. It allow you just place the iso into your usb and you don’t need reflash your usb to jump to a different distro. All you need to is download the iso place into your usb and boot into your usb and you can pick any iso that is in that USB
Thanks for the suggestion!
Great video thanks.
Glad you liked it! Thank you.
Debian 12 had and still have bugs and they won't fix them until next ~2 years, there is stability for you in a nut-shell.
Thanks for commenting! They regularly release critical bug fixes and security patches, just no major version changes for software.
@@Community-Computehi. No bug fixes on Stable. Only security fixes. You have to use backports to upgrade software for bug resolution.
@@daviusikse1486 You can also install newer versions of apps with Flatpak.
Never had any issues with bugs on Debian. I don't think this would bother the average user.
@@anonymous_opinions1924 Maybe I'm just cursed, but my i3 has a memory leak and X11 crashes from time to time. I wanna give NixOS a try, I'm just moving too slow, it has lots of irregularities.
Bro fuck windows
Dual boot problem
Did dual boot but also windows only opening
@br0ken_107 bro problem solved I changed the priority of boot manager with f6 and save it through f19
What I do not like.
Dark mode is too dark
Snap
Flatpak
You don't have to worry about Snap on Debian. Flatpak is optional! KDE is super flexible with themes as well; I'm sure you could find an alternative dark mode that isn't quite as dark!