Linux Desktop Environments Explained
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- What is a Linux Desktop Environment and what does it do? Explore the user space of Linux, Windows, and MacOS and learn about the various layers that interact with the Linux kernel to make the operating system a unique user experience.
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What desktop are you currently using?
tty
Cosmic
kde plasma 🙂
vim
how the heck do I exit out of here?! 😂
Gnome 46
I'm a GNOME guy. For me, the GNOME desktop is elegant, minimal and customizable enough for me. I also love the keyboard driven aspect of it. My machine has a plenty of memory and CPU to handle the interface, so this allows me to use an environment that makes me happy and productive
This is really well made and will help a lot of new users.
Thanks!
I use POP OS as it is simple and easy to use compared to more modern ditto's. A simple command in the terminal has put it into KDE. [sudo apt install kde-full] on startup after you type password a cog appears in lower right. Switch to KDE and there it looks like KDE and you have KDE apps. Click on the cog and go back to POP with KDE apps installed.
Long live XFCE! 😉
Haha
iceWM better
@@grousemoriarty To each his own. There is no "better" really. What works for you is what works for you.
xfce is weird, I wouldn't use it as a daily driver, but it's really light and can run well even on phones. I also liked general browser shortcut. Naming of programs on Linux is weird and would be cool to have general shortcuts for things like camera app, text editor, browser etc that uses default app instead of googling what text editor KDE is using to find it in programs.
Folding a window to its title bar is also a cool feature.
You asked what I'm using, so: Arch Linux with KDE Plasma and Qtile (wip)... My Plasma is set, such that there is a thin panel on top with left justified start menu and application launchers, centered clock and workspace indicator, and a right justified system tray... I use Beauty Dream icons, the classic Bibata cursor, and that's about it... I hope to make Qtile resemble this setup...
This all runs on top of a Ryzen 9 7900X3D and a Radeon RX 6800
You mentioned that Plasma is considered a "heavy-weight" Desktop, and I agree, but I think it's worth noting that both Plasma and Gnome run quite well on hardware that those coming to Linux from Mac or Windows might expect to be too old or too underpowered
I had a MacBook Pro from 2012 (just prior to the release of retina displays), which unfortunately became unusable as of the Mac OS of 2019... I installed Ubuntu on it, and have lent it to a family member... While I think the Ubuntu version of Gnome seems "heavier" than vanilla Gnome, That MBP runs it like a champ, and despite being over 13 years old, It's still perfectly usable... The only thing I could complain about is the 800p display, but other than that, even the battery still lasts!
So, I think your hardware has to be quite old and quite underpowered in order for the features that Gnome and Plasma offers to no longer be an option.
Thanks for sharing the system info. You got a nice setup.
I think he meant heavy-weight compared to other Linux DEs not windows
Gnome because I hate KDE's instability. But I'm truly waiting for a cosmic success. I have so many problems with gnome project and there choices. If it wasn't for the extensions....
KDE just feels goofy for me idk
I use multiple desktop environments on most of the Linux boxes that I own, but I tend to prefer KDE plasma over any other DE. What I don't like are distros that either discourage the use of multiple DE's....or a distro that just can't run more than one DE.
I started using Void with DWM. I kept distro-hopping because I thought it was the distro, but it turned out I didn't like Gnome, XFCE felt dull, and KDE is too buggy. Then I started using DWM with a few patches and it's been fantastic. I plan to implement EWW(idgets) as well
Is it possible to use two different desktops INTERCHANGEABLY, in one version of Linux?
So for example, you load the Gnome desktop of a particular version and want to now add KDE plasma.
Can this be done?
Here’s a video on what I think you are looking for Change your Desktop Environment on Linux
ruclips.net/video/lppf_11vXVo/видео.html
Yep, absolutely possible
Yes. Your login manager should have an option on user login. It's often used for switching between X11 and Wayland variant of your desktop, but also will be auto-populated with all installed Desktop Environments.
iceWM best
@@nask0So - HOW do you do that?
Why am I watching this, I've used linux for years 😅 Anyway, good video!
Thanks
To keep tabs on what newbies are being told
How would you categorize COSMIC, heavyweight or lightweight or somewhere in middle?
heavyweight when it comes to memory usage at the moment but it's not fair to judge until the official release.
Are Window Managers (like Hyprland, Iwm, Sway) also considered to be desktop environments?
No, Desktop environments include also the applications and all of the integrations you need for you to use your computer. The window manager is a part of a desktop environment, not the whole desktop environment, and so if you want to use it you need to setup everything yourself, including the panel, install all the applications you need, the keybinds, integrations between the applications, setup ways to access common settings like volume and brightness and so on which are features ofered out of the box with DEs like gnome, kde, xfce and lxqt
Im 17 and Im new to linux community. I just switched from Windows to Linux last month, I want to gain knowledge about linux OS, please tell me from where i can gain. It would be helpful to know..
How deep do you want to go? Are you into computer science and software programming? Is always good to start with the origin story - which Linux is in the family tree of Unix, which its origin dates back to AT&T Bell Labs in the 1969 through 1972 (for its particular genesis phase - on the heels of another OS project called Multics). Linux got created circa 1993, does not have actual Unix source code, but is modeled on a classic Unix architecture approach, and was aimed specifically at the 32-bit Intel 80386. The 80386 has integrated hardware virtual memory management features and Unix is really only worth bothering with when there is hardware support for memory virtualization. The Unix industry devised some standards for a “Unixy” OS API, which is called POSIX, and Linux implements support of that (but it still has OS features and APIs unique to Linux). There are a lot of common Unix tools that Linux comes with. These originated from GNU foundation when Linux adopted their software license. These tools are not based on any ATT Unix source code but tend to be clone implementations of some of the classic tools that were developed for Unix.
In addition to AT&T Unix, there was an offshoot called Berkeley Unix. This variant over several releases kept writing replacements of AT&T source code to the point it no longer had source code dependency on AT&T Unix. But this Berkeley Unix (BSD) still got bogged down for four years in a court battle where was sued by AT&T. Eventually that that was settled and from there we get Berkeley Unix variants such as FreeBSD which is still going strong today.
But that four year window of the lawsuit gave Linux an opportunity to fill a vacuum, and it did. So it was able to garner a larger user base following and went on to become THE dominant Unix-like operating system.
Now Apple’s MacOS X has direct heritage to Berkeley Unix and it exceeds Linux on the desktop. But Linux is predominate in use on servers, cloud servers, and Android is based on Linux fork. In breadth of presence and influence, Linux exceeds MacOS X. FreeBSD and its cousins get a lot of use on servers too, but Linux more so.
Linux desktop use is in a rapid growth phase, though, and is probably safe to say it is growing at a faster rate of adoption than Windows or MacOS X.
And that Reader’s Digest of the history brings us up to the subject of this video.
@@TheSulross yes I'm into Computer Science and Programming, BTW thanks for the brief history.. 😀
A. When I install Linux for family and friends. I installed both The GNOME Desktop Environment and The KDE / Plasma Desktop Environment.
B. I've found that some KDE / Plasma applications don't work well under The GNOME Desktop Environment.
C. For maximum software compatibility I install both Desktop Environments.
D. Does anyone else install both The GNOME Desktop Environment and The KDE / Plasma Desktop Environment on the same Linux installation? If YES. Please leave a reply to this list of comments explaining why you install both Desktop Environments on the same Linux installation.
I am in love with cinnamon, I works for me.
how to do your thumbnail?
Whats that twm and bar ur using it looks cool
Dang, was looking for the video on Kernels that the video says is in the description and there's just a wikipedia article. xD
Sorry about that. Thanks for the reminder here it is - What is a Kernel and what does it do? Explore the Kernels of Linux, Windows, and MacOS.
ruclips.net/video/IvGdY6luTtU/видео.html
Just added to the desc as well
@@SavvyNik Hey thanks for the reply!
It happens so much on YT and usually I don't comment about it, but I couldn't find the video on the channel easily.
Appreciate it! I try and keep that updated but sometimes I forget haha
What is the desktop in thumbnail? And if it is tiling wm can I get dotfiles pls?
I use KDE Neon on a 9900K CPU system w/2060 GPU, and LMDE distro on 9600F CPU w/1060 GPU.
In your opinion, what is the best way to get CDE as my desktop? I'd prefer to run it on my Pi 400, but would run it on an ×86-64.
Yes, it's a nostalgia issue.
You'd have to build from source more than likely:
something like -
sudo apt update
sudo apt install build-essential autoconf automake libx11-dev libxt-dev libxmu-dev libxft-dev libxpm-dev libjpeg-dev libxext-dev
git clone github.com/ThomasEichhorn/CDE.git
cd CDE
./autogen.sh
make
sudo make install
sudo nano /usr/share/xsessions/cde.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Name=CDE
Comment=Common Desktop Environment
Exec=/usr/dt/bin/Xsession
TryExec=/usr/dt/bin/dtsession
Type=Application
@@SavvyNik Super clear instructions! Thanks so much! 😀
thats not ubuntu's gnome config, its probably fedora considering gnome software and gnome web are installed
So Linux is an OS and a kernel?
What OS am I running on my custom built kernel that is not based on/f Linux kernel yet runs these application's?
What are other OS distributions that has a proper sole name, that are using the Linux kernel and these applications?
A Linux os is anything that runs a Linux kernel. For example FreeBSD is a different os that has it's own kernel that can run gnome DE.
what is the best desktop that can be used to remote ?
Wayland ??
Wayland itself is not a DE, it's protocol for communication between the display server and clients (application and windows). It is a newer replacement for X11 windowing system.
Ubuntu
En-voire-ment?? En-vi-ron-ment ?
are you making fun of my speech :D
first
Pizza sounds good right about now
I will never give Microsoft another $1...Windows sucks & Bill Gayes is an Evil Demon! Learning everything I can to switch to LinuxMint or whatever the best version is foe ex-Windows/Win Office users...
You sound like a freedom fighting gnu/linux npc
While I really dislike Gate, the man has not been in charge of Microsoft in a long time.
Oh lord ... here we go again ...
MX linux
that's not a DE.. that's a distro
"xfce" is default DE right?
Yes
Jfc, it's not gah nome. It's nome.
Tbh, it does not matter