Nagorno-Karabakh: Europe’s Post-Soviet ‘Frozen War’ | NowThis World
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- There's post-Soviet conflict in Europe that has still yet to be resolved. Here's a look at the history behind why Azerbaijan and Armenia both claim ownership over the autonomous region of Nagorno-Karabakh.
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I'd love to see you cover the issues of Transnistria! Another of those post Soviet Conflicts.
Do a video on Abkhazia and south ossetia
Aren't they called Artsakh now?
Ali Haleem It's always been called Artsakh
Only Armenians call it Arsakh, internationally it's called Nogorno-Karabakh
Hat Man I'm Armenian lol
But Artsakh is it's true name. Nagorno-Karabakh was the name given to it by Russia
Karabakh its by turkish or azeris language.... Artsakh Armenian name
@Payizc lol
Calling it Europe is abit generous
Max Mcknight because it's in Asia?
Max Mcknight you're so dumb. That's like saying Britain is part of North America
So then why does Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia can all potentially join the EU? The south Caucasus are pretty tricky to justify because it's a bridge between Europe and Asia. The continent might be in Asia, however, the people are European. Have you looked at their architecture, language, and how the people look like? They don't look Middle Eastern nor Asian.
They may have adapted European culture, but geographically they're not part of Europe.
Silly man, you cant have your own opinion. Oh wait you can, and I respect that, have a Nice day
Just to clear things up.
Geographically - Western Asia (North Azerbaijan is technically a part of Europe though).
Geopolitically, however - Europe.
So yes, Judah is correct when he says a European conflict.
Azerbaijan must pay reparations for 70 years of occuping and trying to purge all Armenia heritage from *ARTSAKH*
Also, Azerbaijan must compensate for distruction
of all Armenian historical monuments in *ARTSAKH*
Don't worry brother, I went to Artsakh just a few weeks ago and we have taken back heaps of our land. Stepanakert was beautiful bro! LONG LIVE HAYASTAN AND ARTSAKH
Here are some I would LOVE to see you guys make a video on
1. The Romanian Revolution
2. The fall of the Autro-Hungarian Empire
3. Nostalgia for Cold war communism in some countries
4. Who was Joseph Goebbels
5. Most/least democratic countries
February 1988. The pogrom took place during the early stages of the Karabakh movement. On February 27, 1988, mobs made up of ethnic Azerbaijanis formed into groups and attacked and killed Armenians on the streets and in their apartments; widespread looting and a general lack of concern from police officers allowed the situation to continue for three days.
The Armenian civilian residents of Sumgait, including women and children, were slaughtered with exceptional brutality.
And the leader of this action in Sumgait was Grigorian who was armenian and police officers were from Russian and they allowed.If you ask from any Armenian who lived in Sumgait 1988 , they absouletly will say that Azerbaijan Turks protected from violance. And I am saying the truth as a person Sumgait and as a person who I saw by my own eyes this action
How powerful is Romania??
Strong romania number 1 💪💪🇷🇴
I'm in Belarus and its the closest thing to old Soviet
wait lukashenko gives you internet access
Uhh, Armenia & Azerbaijan aren’t in Europe, they’re beyond the caucasus mountains
well go to the european union website and armenia georgia and azerbaijan, the three are considered to be european countries. They are also members of the council of europe, which only european countries can be part of.
Im pretty sure the two main organizations in europe know more about this than you.
west asia
NowThis World Do Georgia's frozen conflicts
A politician would say this is Asia, not Europe. However, a geologist would call it Eurasia.
But let's get real, this isn't Europe.
JOE BLOE well said.....
JOE BLOE but it Caucasian so it is.
JOE BLOE Armenia is a white Europe n country, so is goergia. I love how Chechnya and Dagestan in Russia are considered European but Armenia and Georgia aren't.
Ok fine than, the continents as we know them are made up constructs and all of those countries are in Eurasia. This is the reality of the situation, Europe and Asia are the same geological plate, we just separate them for convenience based on ethnicity.
well go to the european union website and armenia georgia and azerbaijan, the three are considered to be european countries. They are also members of the council of europe, which only european countries can be part of.
Im pretty sure the two main organizations in europe know more about this than you.
Please make a video about Abkhazia and South Ossetia
go home You don't want to see that , they'd be saying "Abkazia" all the time ...
You seem to be extremely anti-Armenian in this video. Perhaps read a bit more into the history and what is currently going on with ISIS fighters being welcomed into this conflict by the Azeris and the dismemberment of Armenian civilians which is then bragged about on social media.
To begin with, the entire world recognizes the area as part of Azerbaijan. Secondly, there is absolutely no evidence of the alleged involvement of Isis in the conflict. At least before making speculations, Armenians should have researched that Azerbaijanis are Shia Muslims which are considered heretics by Isis.
Another Post-Soviet ,,Frozen War" would be the Transnistrian war which is theoretically ongoing. Could you make a video about it? It would interesting to find out Whats going on :D
Avadhut Kasinadhuni Transnistrian war is already over since 1992, but the reigon is still not under control by Moldova but insted by Transnistrians.
ExtremeCynic still ongoing but atleast thier are no gunfire shot already and hoping nothing will come next.
Are people seriously arguing if these countries are European or Asian? That is not what this video is about. Can’t we just call them Eurasian countries and move on?
PB RedCoat French To be fair, Mexico and Africa are clearly separated by an ocean... but the border between Europe and Asia isn’t clearly defined. The Caucasus isn’t always defined as the border between the two... these countries can be considered both European and Asian
No.
They talk about the enclave
*thinks about Fallout*
BROTHERHOOD FTW
The Caucasus are in Europe. They are ethnically European, and in school we learn about them as European.
PB RedCoat French Armenia and Azerbaijan is ethnically close to Europe. It’s hard to say but I think most people say it, and the people from these countries considers themselves as Europeans
Milo Brave still i think The fact that the people there decide they are more European than asian is crucial.
@@Adrian-rb4qp Azerbaijan landed on the border between Europe and Asia.
Amid Hashimov yeah exactly and they themselves can choose if they’re Europeans or not. If they wanna be considered asian that’s fine aswell.
@@Adrian-rb4qp yeah it depends. Majority of Azerbaijanis are Muslim. But also Azerbaijan has Christians and Jewish people as well. And keep in mind that it's a former USSR country and it made Azerbaijanis less religious and more respectfull to other religions. I mean Azerbaijani Muslims are not same like Arabic, Persian or Turksh Muslims. But still Azerbaijan have religious people, so citizens who love Islam they call themselves Asians, Easterns proud to be Muslim and hate West. Rest of Azerbaijan call themselves Eurpoeans and proud to be Caucasian.
Could you cover the worsening tensions between China and India.
came for information but could not take my eyes off that dude, that anchor is a mixture of cuteness and of being handsome
But if Azerbaijan and Armenia are in Europe, Eastern Turkey should be too, which it isn't. So I would say it is an Asian conflict.
They are both European and Asian countries.
Hat Man That is only true for Azerbaijan
They're in Asia however they consider themselves as European
Dark Legend and that’s why they are European😂
Thank you for the video. I appreciate your work, but I think, that would be better if you would give more detailed information. I am from Kalbajar region of Azerbaijan which is under Armenian occupation and I want this conflict to be resolved as soon as possible.
Some facts:
- Nagorna Karabagh Autonomous Republic were the second richest Autonomous Republic in Soviet Era. Standard of living was one of the highest in the region.
- Armenians living there were very close with their Azerbaijani neighbors. My family is from Karabagh and they still say that we didn't understand how this even happened. I am sure these kinds of feelings are present in Armenians as well.
- Even through, population in Nagorna Karabagh was 90% Armenians, they have migrated there from different parts of the region and even they made a monument in 1978 in Aghdere (Mardaket) to memorize 150 year anniversary of their arrival to Karabagh (which were destroyed later). If Anyone wants to see this, they can just google it.
In a nutshell, despite of all the horrible events that happened in the past, I hope Armenians and Azerbaijanis will solve this conflict and live together again. We are sick of this war. Peace should be restored and we can archive it by respecting the self determination of Armenians and territorial integrity of Azerbaijan Republic. My country is willing to ensure Armenians' right to self determination within the territory of Azerbaijan.
The conflict was before the Soviets. In 1905, the two had very bad communal violence, with saw each burning down over 100 villages of the other. There was also alot of bad blood during WW1, where each committed war crimes and killed 10s of thousands of civilians
Please make a video dissecting conflicts in Abkhazia and Samachablo with recent border movements. Thank you.
This video has been done without proper homework...Russia is actually Armenia's ally in this conflict while Israel, Pakistan and of course, Turkey are backing Azerbaijan
1. Test tube already did this video before it’s called “why do Armenia and Azerbaijan hate each other”
2. Lots of wrong facts in this video nowthis needs to research better
Alex Whack
Which wrong facts ?
Bengali - the video said that the USSR gave nagorno karabakh to Azerbaijan, which is absolutely false. Nagorno Karabakh was already part of Azerbaijan even before the creation of USSR. If you check the map of Azerbaijan in 1918, you can see that karabakh was already part of Azerbaijan. Goris and Kapan were also part of Azerbaijan, but soviets gave goris and kapan to armenia.
Nagorno-Karabakh territory didn't joined to Armenia. Armenia invaded this territory by killing civil ians. Azerbaijan wants peace but also to get its territory back to its country.
Ukraine war please< whats happenimg there. Suddenly there seems to be no news on internet about the present condition.
Go to LiveUAMap, choose Ukraine and follow news in real time.
How powerful is Romania? This is my 22th petition.
Tifan Razvan
They already did it
Andy Davis give me the link pls then
Tifan Razvan
Nevermind they didn't do it
Andy Davis well..
*How powerful is Azerbaijan?*
It is just like Ogaden. The only formar British colony that still lives under third rulers. That region needs international attention otherwise no Justice.... Plz do it video on this sir.
You make great videos, now this world.
That’s asia
well go to the european union website and armenia georgia and azerbaijan, the three are considered to be european countries. They are also members of the council of europe, which only european countries can be part of.
Im pretty sure the two main organizations in europe know more about this than you.
can you please do an episode on "Balochistan's struggle & it's future"?
Rupayan Thakur I support your comment.
And also about indian occupied kasmir
Transnistria next
Azerbaijan and Armenia are part of the middle east. Geography 101
Fully support Armenia.
Azerbaijan is merely a part of Iran.
Armenians have been indigenous to that region for a millenium.
Disgusting for Turks to exterminate them and steal their lands.
AugustanFinn If they want their 'traditional land' they can go back into the steppes of Kazakhstan :)
AugustanFinn Native Americans have been indigenous to Northern America for thousands of years, but I guess it's okay for Europeans right
Azerbaijan is merely a part of Iran? I am sorry, what?
Actually armenians are much more friendly to Iran than Azerbaijan. There is an ongoing "cold war" between Azerbaijan and Iran that is why Azerbaijan is closely allied with Israel.
AugustanFinn AugustanFinn you can support whichever country you want, i can't say anything about it. But, i recommend you to research before commenting against one country. First of all Azerbaijan isn't part of Iran and never will be. Secondly Azerbaijan never stole land from anyone. Actually it is quite opposite. This area already belonged to Azerbaijan even before Stalin was born (you can check maps and Turkmenchay treatment from 1918 online). So, the argument that this land was given by USSR to Azerbaijan is false and i believe it is biased in the video deliberately. Even United Nation declared these acts as Armenian conquering by 4 resulitions. You can also check them.
Basically it's the kashmir of Azerbaijan and Armenia
Do civil war in Tajikistan, please!
I love your vids. Keep up the great work 😁
*HOW POWERFUL IS AZERBAIJAN?*
Not efficient considering how wealthy, populated, and armed it is.
@@snek6342 at least 3 times more powerfull than Armenia nowadays
53 top world in army's
Armenia and Azerbaijan are not in Europe though
M-Ray Usa sorry it's true..
Wat-King ! According to a lot of European Organizations they are, such as UEFA, where Armenia, Azerbaijan and even Kazakhstan are considered European.
ThatGuyYouKnow01 well israel is part of UEFA, Guyana and Surinam are part of CONCACAF (North America) and Australia is part of AFC (Asia) so football confederations do not always follow geography.
Well according to most sources they are both European and Asian countries. these countries are called Transcontinental countries.
I am Armenian. All most no one knows about my country. I don’t really like NT that much, but thanks for reporting this
SuperbStemCap A lot of people know Armenia, thanks to the fake genoicide
+yeah man, most people think i'm russian. not many of us left :(
Your country is very well known thanks to the Kardashians.
@@IkeSan Kardashians?? Armenians were known way before that, only westernized people think Kardashians are Armenians. If I'm not mistaking, she's only part Armenians but was raised by a American step father
Do Abkhazia and South Ossetia
Thats.... not that much Europe...
Eight American states passed resolutions recognizing Artsakh California in 2014, Louisiana in 2013, Georgia 2016, Maine 2013, Massachusetts 2012, Michigan 2017, Rhode Island 2012. New South Wales also recognizes Nagorno-Karabakh.
This is NOT Europe. How can you get the conflict right if you don’t even know where it’s taking place?
I support Armenia
Greetings from algeria ❤
Ilyas Hammouda Glory and Love to Algeria ❤
Ilyas Hammouda Why? None were at fault. Soviets made them get into conflict purposely so they would stay under their influence. armenians even commited a genocide. Why would you side with them?
nikos pap We are talking about Armenian-Azerbaijani war. And they didn't kill alot of civilians, I know that but killing 500? That's a bit too much. Not to mention that this was instigated by Soviets.
nikos pap And yeah, Turks did genocide on Armenians too.
But the atheist revolutionaries, not the Ottomans and definitely not common people
nikos pap Well, I'm not educated on the topic so I can't really answer it.
Divide and rule sucks
How bout a video on The Republic of Moldova breakaway region of Transnistria?
or relations between Republic Moldova and Romania?
That is a good Topic :)
I would like another video about Najichevan :)
Azerbaijan's Nagorno-Karabakh region and seven surrounding districts were occupied by Armenia during a full-scale war that lasted for four years, from 1991 until a ceasefire deal in 1994. The bloody war claimed the lives of over 30,000 Azerbaijanis and expelled one million more from their homeland.
And armenia 🇦🇲 and Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 are not in Europe it’s is Asia
azerbaijan asia?😅
Caucasus is geographically in Asia, though Politically and culturally it is Europe. Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan are members of Council of Europe, Eastern Partnership, as well as they participate in European sport championships and so on.
Vram Hakobyan Armenians will never be Europeans and neither will Azeris.
Illyrian King Oh wow if you think albanians are europeans that would be even more funny
Illyrian King we don't need your approval to consider ourselves part of one kind of culture or another... Our countries are on the very border between Europe and Asia, thus we will choose by ourselves what do we want to be, without the "approval" of some muslim "europeans".
Vram Hakobyan being European means you have to have European genetics and culture. Albanian culture stems from European culture with a hint of Eastern culture as well. Also we aren’t Muslims, we are largely an Agnostic society just like the rest of Europe is. You Armenoid gypsies cannot grasp this concept very well
Illyrian King Owwww. This is funnyyyyyy.... First of all, Armenians share their main DNA halogroup with Europeans, and according to the studies Armenians originated from the migrating tribes which later inhabited western europe. Second of all, I have been to Albania and all those mosques screaming all day long doesn't remind of any europe. Poor architecture, almost turkish culture, turkish looking people... What European roots are you talking about if your country reminds of Yemen?
How powerful is Oman?
Thanks for sharing this information with us!
Nagorno karabakh is another ethnic conflict caused by the Soviet union's divide and conquer tactic.
Could you do a video on West Guinea, Indonesia? They are seeking indipendence, but are rejected by the Indonesian government.
You said this 2 years ago and now in 2020 The war has already started!
We aren't Europe, don't offend us by saying it
NowThis World, First of all, thank you for sharing a video about this conflict. It does not matter, if it is indeed Europe's conflict or not, this must be shared and spread all over the world since this conflict has already taken many young lives from both sides.
Secondly, I would like to express my complaint about the content of this video. I think it is very biased and the man who watches this video can ask that if this area was "Armenian", why Azerbaijanis still claim to Nagorno-Karabakh? You even did not mention Azerbaijani arguments over this conflict both, historically and juridically based ones. Thanks for noticing the massacres took place during the war against Azerbaijani civilians and about 700000 refugees, however, you should mention 200-300 thousands of refugees from Armenia to Azerbaijan. You should research properly the core of the conflict 1918-1920 period when there were 2 independent republics, Armenia and Azerbaijan and they had the same territorial problems. They couldn't solve the problems, so it passed to the Soviet time of these republics.
And actually, the core of the problem lies in the policy of the Russian Empire, where they tried to make these nations fight with each other to control them easily and right now we see the same situation with modern Russia.
I am your subscriber for almost 2 years, and I really like your videos. However, you started to research very biased and make videos, based on these researches. Azerbaijan has really strong arguments over this conflict as Armenia does and it can be solved only with the help of some good compromises and ideas from both sides where these two nations can finally live in peace and harmony together. Maybe in the future, they can take the democratic way and European integration together and share some ideas and experiences. We wish and demand peace not war in our territories and all over the world.
I like and respect your channel, but last videos are not good and you should change the style of your researches.
Thank you for your attention!
Orkhan Huseynli, wow an actual person who is seeing the issue from both sides, man all i can say is thanks for the thorough explanation and lets keep the conversation going, only by talking to each other can we resolve the centuries old problem between the peoples of Armenia and Azerbaijan. Our nation states might not want to resolve this but personally i dont want to go and kill innocent people who just want to live in peace and prosperity
Sergey Khachatryan for sure. Killing is not a solution. We are modern people. We should solve everything only by talking.
The azeris as a race have no history before the 1800s. Coca Cola is older then their nation. Armenia ruled Artsakh since the days of Julius Caesar.
Do you know what I heard in my mind while reading your comment? "blah blah blah blah". Cynical, no logic, full of Armenian government's propaganda. First, at least try to have some attitude before trying to have a debate. Otherwise, you will never be accepted seriously.
Armenians did in fact "talk" and voted for independence from Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan being Azerbaijan attacked the peaceful Armenians and forced them into war.
SO does this mean the conflicts in Chechnya & the Serb/Croat thing in the 90's were also part of the Frozen War? They were generated by the end of the USSR
“Massacre committed by Armenians that claim 500 lives most of them were peaceful civilians” that was pretty accusatory dude. You need to do Thorough research before you making statement like that.
It's a fact though
Would love to know the song used in the background
Excellent video
Transnistrian war
Both Armenia and azarbijan are in Asia not Europe gets u r facts straight. This was poorly researched. Very little explained
Armenians are more european my friend, we speak an Indo-european language, we are part of the council of europe, what are you even talking about =D
Karim Achakzai yes they are part of Europe under the Soviet’s then became known for creating the white people under the name of Indo-European so it’s part of Europe it’s turkey that is part of the Asian minor.
Nathan Long anything east of Bosphorus is in Asia this is geographically speaking, now since your saying it counts part of Europe because USSR once occupied it then would you consider Tajikistan part of Europe. Also by origin both Armenian and azari ppl are closely related to people of Iran then Russian.
Karim Achakzai they're both in the council of Europe, maybe you should do your research and not the channel
Anything east of Bosphorus is in Asia haha I did not know Cyprus was West of the Bosphorus, tho in the East they are in Europe. You are not going to make your claim right, Armenia is in Europe. Europe is a Greek word derived from Europa, Strabo, a Greek geographer, did travel in Armenia and considered it to be part of Europe.
Nargorno karabakh belongs to Armenia Is not par of Azarbaijan durig Stalyns time Stalyn lost the karabkh to Azarbaijan in a poker game and Armenans land and all of the peoples are armenians this is the trueth not internationaly knon as Azarbijans land . And turky is related to azaris And they speek the same langveje turkyih
North Caucasus is Europe.
South Cacasus is Asia.
Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan are all south of the Greater Caucasus Mountains.
This conflict is in Asia, not Europe.
ShnoogleMan Azerbaijan and Georgia are in Europe
BakuMapping AzerbaijanMapping
No, both are south of the Greater Caucasus mountain range. Circassia, Dagestan, and Chechnya are in Europe. Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan are in Asia.
ShnoogleMan Don't you feel that placing these countries and their conflict in a separate 'other' region dimishes the severity of the problem at hand? I mean I agree that these countries don't fit in the European model of the subcontinent, but that what it is a subcontinent, part of the larger Eurasian landmass.
ShnoogleMan North-eastern Azerbaijan is in fact in Europe
ShnoogleMan Guba is in North of the mountian range
Great Theme & Video
For all the idiots saying it's not Europe, Georgia and Armenia may be in the caucusus but they're white European countries, plus they're all in the The Council of Europe. And also why are Chechnya and Dagestan provinces in Russia considered European, they're right next to Georgia and Armenia and are in the caucusus too. Would Chechnya stop being European if they got independence?
they;re on the otherside of the mountains. it's that simple.
Georgia and Armenia are sometimes considered European despite being in Transcaucasia because they are Orthodox Christian. Chechnya and Dagestan are considered geographically European because they are in the north Caucasus but are strictly Islamic republics with lots of Turkic and Persian influences. They are not culturally European. These facts highlight the complexity of the region and the important role of religion in cultural identity as well as geopolitics.
Azerbaijan is the most European country in the Transcaucasia. 6/1 of Azerbaijan is in Europe
David Rosner are Kosovo, Albania, and bosnia-Herzegovina not European because they're Islamic, even though they're smack dab in the middle of the Balkans.
For Real, of course Bosnia and Albania are geographically European and they are leftovers from the period of the Ottoman rule in the Balkans and culturally and religiously isolated on the European continent. If there is another major outbreak of ethno-religious warfare in the Balkans, the battle lines will be drawn around those isolated pockets of Islamic civilization in southeastern Europe. Other Christian European nations, particularly Russia which has historically crusaded against Ottoman Turkey and sought to extend its influence in the Balkans, will support their coreligionists such as Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria in the Balkans while various Islamic nations from the Middle East such as Turkey or Egypt will support the Balkan muslims to whatever degree they are able. Of course, ethnic and religious identity is a pliable concept and doesn’t always follow clear geographic lines, especially in powder-keg regions like the Balkans and the Caucasus but in the human construct of identity Europe is most often associated with the western, Christian world while the Middle East is associated with the Islamic world and this affects the internal Balkan divisions in a significant way. The conflicts and alliances resulting from the way people chose to identify, even the continent stereotypes, are important in understanding the way future conflicts in the Balkans or Caucasus will unfold. Russia supporting the Christian states of the regions is the likely and logical continuation of the centuries old game. Although Serbia and Croatia fought each other in the multi sided mess that was the breakup of Yugoslavia, I wouldn’t rule out an alliance between the two and Russia in a future conflict as nationalism takes hold in eastern and Southern Europe and anti-Islamic sentiment rises. At the end of the day, despite their differences Croatia and Serbia have more in common with each other as Christian European nations than they do with Bosnia, Albania and Turkey despite sharing a language with the first of that latter bunch.
Unfortunately, the terrible ethnic wars of the 1990s in the Balkans may not be the last in the region. A future conflict could spread to other parts of Eastern Europe, Russia, the Caucasus or even Western Europe as millions of refugees and immigrants from the Islamic world form ethnic enclaves in European cities. Unfortunately, due to the politics of religious, cultural and geographic identity, Europe’s bloodiest days may lie ahead.
First, Kharabgh (Artsakh in Armenian) has been an Armenian historical and ethnic land for thousands of years, since before Christ. It has been a province of the Armenian Kingdom, under Artaxiad Dynasty and has had periods of self-rule and princedoms during the Middle Ages, through the 16th and 17th centuries, under Armenian noble families. Second, the only time when Armenians willingly organized and killed Azerbaijani civilians was during the March Days of 1918 in Baku, organized by the Communists, which their leader happens to be the Armenian Stepan Shahumyan, supported by the Dashnak Stepan Zorian, to avenge the victims of the Armenian genocide in the Ottoman Empire. As a matter of fact, after the declaration of independence of Azerbaijan in May 28 1918, the Ottoman Empire formed the Army of Islam, a troop to recapture Baku from the Communists of Stepan Shahumyan. Upon recapturing Baku in September 1918, the Turks and Azerbaijanis killed 10 000 Armenians in the city, to avenge the 12 000 massacre of Azebaijanis committed by Shahumyan and Zorian in March 1918. Aside from that, Armenians were continued to be killed, rubbed, raped tortured, humiliated daily everywhere, whether on the roads, in markets or public places. As a result around 20 000 to 30 000 Armenians have been killed in early 20th century (1918-20s-30s) by Azerbaijanis and Turks in modern day Azerbaijan. This has led Armenians to act in self-defense in the region of Kharabagh against Ottoman-Turkish troops in TransCaucasia (the Army of Islam, led by the brother of Enver Pasha-Ottoman Empire's Minister of War and one of the architects of the Armenian Genocide) as well as against Azerbaijani troops of Khosrov Bey Sultanov, supported by the British; and Kurdish gangs supported by the Azerbaijani Armed forces in 1918-20s. Simultaneously, there was the creation of the People's Government of Kharabagh later known as the Armenian National Council of Khrabagh in July 1918, which de facto established a self-ruled government in Kharabagh. It knew a year long of independance, after the troops of Khosrov Bey Sultanov invaded Kharabagh. When Azerbaijan fell into the Soviet Union, its Armed forces, alongside the Red Army, carried a full scale attack on Kharabgh's Armenian population in a deliberation of eradicating the Armenian population there. This resulted in the declaration of Armenians living in Khrabagh to express their will to join Armenia... the Republic of Armenia led by Dro and Garegin Njdeh formed armies to save Zangezur (Syunik in Armenian) and Kharabagh (Artsakh in Armenian) from Azerbaijani rule. On July 4, 1921, the Caucasian Bureau of the Russian Communist Party Central Committee decided during a plenary session that Kharabakh be joined with Armenia; however, on the next day, July 5, 1921, Stalin intervened and thus it was decided that Karabakh be set in Soviet Azerbaijan - this decision was taken without deliberation or vote. As a result, the Nagorno-Kharabakh Autonomous Oblast (NKAO) was established within the Azerbaijan SSR in 1923. Most of the decisions on the transfer of the territories, and the establishment of new autonomous entities, were made under pressure from Joseph Stalin. Then, under 65 years of Azerbaijani rule, Karabagh went under programs of de-Armenization, marginalization, discrimination and practically left-out from SSR Azerbaijan's domestic policies; only Azerbaijanis were granted any kind of support and this only to further marginalize the Armenian population. This is why the Armenian population dropped from 94% to 75% in Kharabagh in 1980. The same happened in the " Autonomous region of Nakhichevan", (an Azerbaijani enclave, which happens to be Autonomous, but without its native Armenian population to claim Autonomy; usually a region is autonomous because there is a native-minority population which differs from a majority population. This further proves that Nakhichevan also belongs to Armenia. In fact it was part of the Erivan Governorate as well as the First Armenian Republic, but was handed over to Azerbaijan alongside Kharabagh by Stalin's wish) where Armenians composed 40% of the total population of Nakhichevan, in 1917, but there were no more Armenians left in Nakhichevan as early as the 1960s, as a result of Azerbaijani SSR's discriminatory policies. Seeing what happened in Nakhichevan, Armenians in Kharabagh decided to resist, thus culminating in the Nagorno-Kharabagh war of 1990.
Julian West thank you for your strong and compelling arguments Julian
Yet you don't state a counterargument. lmao
good story! they add this all to star trek too
Fairy tales that Xenophon, Ovid, and Plutarch confirm?
It doesn't seem very professional if you mispronounce the name of the region through the entire video.
That’s not europe
depends who you ask. Many modern maps of Europe include the areas in and around the Caucasus stopping at Turkey and Iran. Some even including Turkey.
And lots of European maps also show the whole Mediterranean which includes showing some of Northern Africa; still doesn't make North Africa part of Europe.
Analytically Sound you see , the caucasus not only aren’t geographicaly in europe but also culturarly and genetically. So theres no point on saying they’re european.
The troubles in Ireland
The caucuses are in Asia.
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How are those countries in Europe? they are Geographically in Asia...
You don’t have to be white to be European
Quote me where I said that only whites are European...
Armenia is a Christian nation, has been for 17 centuries and like Georgia, have been heavily influenced by European empires, such as Rome and Russia. I count those 2 as European countries, technically in Asia. But I don't count the Azeris since their Turkic ancestors came from the Asian steppes. But, since they have territory on the northern side of the Caucasus, they are often included in Europe. They are a middle-eastern nation, slightly in Europe, same as Turkey.
Its Eurasia, reigons between Europe and Asia. But their culture and lifestyle are more European than Asian in my own opinion.
Can all of the caucasus just unite into one nation called Caucasia!!!?? :3
Hopefully there are yt channels like now this or otherwise I would never get to know about this conflicts. Thanks
What if Armenia was given the Azeri enclave in the south west as an exchange for Nagorno Karabak going to Azerbaijan? Could that be a solution? BTW I am just a neutral observer.
No. The Armenian psyche is one of "not one more inch of historical Armenian territory will be ceded". Nachichevan was and will be Armenian again. Karabagh Armenians have been there , according to DNA studies for 7000 years. They will exhaust themselves to keep it. You see, before a couple hundred years ago, Azerbaijan was pretty much populated by two major ethnic groups. The Alanians and the Armenians south of the Khura river. The Tatars invaded and ethnic cleansed or forcefully converted the locals. Genocide should not be rewarded.
Moldova/Transnistria....
A video on South Ossetia and Abkhazia would be interesting
Hey Know you guys can talk about the other autonomous regions. South Osetia, Abhjazia, Transnistria, Kosovo, Northern Cyprus, Taiwan, Somaliland, republic of Donetsk in Ukraine etc.
Nice job though.
They did cover Somaliland and they mentioned Northern Cyprus in the video "Why Greece and Turkey are fighting over Cyprus" But I also hope that they tell us about the other countries that you mentioned.
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The world is totally messed up there are wars and conflict in many many nations and territories...only Jesus can bring true peace to the world...Lord Jesus please come soon.
Armenia is in Asia both culture wise and geography wise...
U r right. They are assyrians
Azerbaijan and Armenia are both considered European countries. They have also both taken part in Eurovision. 😂
Craig Gordon LOL. Good response.
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Actually, Russia and the Soviet Union after the Empire was disbanded, used the situation Persia (now Iran) created. Technically, it's neither Russian, nor collectively Soviet fault a bunch of Armenians ended up in another entity. Artsakh was considered Azeri land even during the Persian rule, even though not populated by Armenians.
Lemme start: Azerbaijan and Armenia are NOT in Europe
They are...
east Europe
They are not
They are. both countries are Transcontinental countries which means they are both in Asia and Europe, same goes for Russia, Turkey, Georgia, Greece, Cyprus, Kazakhstan and etc.
Hat Man A TINY part of Azerbaijan is in Europe, but not Armenia nor the conflict zone...
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For the record, Artsakh or Nagorno-Karabakh had always belonged to Armenia, and had absolutely no relation with the azerbaijanis whatsoever. It was forcefully given to them, however, by the soviets, as mentioned in the video, meaning that it’s pure Armenian land. I stand with Armenians, they have suffered enough and have lost alot of land, and clearly have all rights to claim Karabakh as theirs.
It has been an Armenian region centuries ago, after collapse of ancient Armenia most of Armenians moved to the Middle East and haven't been in the Caucasus for a long time. Afterwards, it has long been Turkic-Muslim or Persian region, and yet again only Nagorno-Karabakh was inhabited by Armenians after Russia's Imperialist invasion on the Caucasus, surrounding regions of this enclave, which are bigger than enclave itself were mostly inhabited by Turkic-Muslim population. Killing thousands of civil people on both sides isn't the right solution.
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Go look at the past. You will see that Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan.
Hasan Ismayil I don't understand why Armenians always mention Stalin giving Karabakh territory to Azerbaijan SSR while back in 1918-1920 it was under control of Azerbaijan Democratic Republic. And by the way if they claim Nagorno-Karabakh, why occupying surrounding territories and killing many civilians brutually and causing to displacement of hundreds of thousands of people from their home.
The surrounding territories are buffer zones. Besides, how else will Armenia reach Nagorno Karabakh without crossing Azerbaijan? Just think about it. Nagorno Karabakh will be cut off from the rest off Armenia, and there's no way in going there unless you cross Azerbaijani border. I forgot, didn't one time Armenia and Azerbaijan want to trade land? If I'm not mistaken, I read somewhere that Azerbaijan was gonna give a road leading to Nagorno Karabakh and in return, wanted Armenia to give the Syunik region so that Nachivan connects to the rest of Azerbaijan.
Saying that Nagorno-Karabakh was "given" to Azerbaijan by Soviets is already a dead argument. Try to find out something new. Original document of that plenum where the conflict on Nagorno-Karabakh was being resolved by Soviets from 5th of July 1921, it was written that Nagorno-Karabakh has to be PRESERVED under Azerbaijan SSR 's jurisdiction. It means that before Soviets came, Nagorno-Karabakh was already considered as a part of the Azerbaijan Republic which was established in 1918. There is nothing about "giving" or "donating" in any documents. :) Do not make a propaganda, learn how to discuss!
I am from the US. Karabakh is Azerbaijan!
No
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Well thats just not in europe
depends who you ask... for some people Georgia is in Europe
Slashplite no even in the broadest geographical terms europe ends at the ural mountains then the caspian sea then the caucasus mountains then the black sea leading into the mediterranean. Granted you are right in saying that Georgia is in some part in europe due the the caucacus mountains entering it but azerbaijan and armenia are defo not.
@@gregorycrust6068 well go to the european union website and armenia georgia and azerbaijan, the three are considered to be european countries. They are also members of the council of europe, which only european countries can be part of.
Im pretty sure the two main organizations in europe know more about this than you.
Robs gardening channel does not recognise the state of Armenia.
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