Im trans ( im female) and this is ver very refreshing . Trans rights are not going to be won by being horrible to the rest of society . I am leaving this message because i hope Doriana will know at least one trans person who thinks she is doing a great work advocating for the rights of most trans people
THEY attack trans people and it's trans people's fault? Nothing in this is valid biology. Do you know why women's sports was segregated? THEY STARTED BEATING MEN. Wow. Imagine women being better at sports than men. It happens consistently in some sports. But that doesn't fit the narrative of this disgusting ideology that excludes trans people from society.
@@r-platt Where do you get this nonsense from? I mean, for real? Do you really believe that? We have decades over decades of comparable sports data between men and women and their records. What are you talking about? If it were true, wouldn't that be common knowledge? Like that dogs bark and cats don't? Is it a really big conspiracy that the - in reality stronger than man - women just downplay to not bruise the male ego? Please, tell me. How has it been hidden from everyone that women are stronger? Why aren't women the "protectors" or mainly represented in physical labour jobs? Please, tell me the theory how women got men to do the hard work when they are the physiological stronger ones. Enlighten me. Oh yes, and then you'll find the one or two instances were the female body has advantages. Like in some gymnastics and in cerain circumstances in endurance (marathons are still dominated by men). And that was "the reason" for sports segregation? I don't now if you really have been that fooled by someone or for some personal reason really really want it to be true. But well, it's not. Sorry.
There's nothing wrong with being trans. The only problem comes up when trans persons try to claim biology that isn't theirs. A transwoman isn't a woman. She is a transwoman, and that's OK. Be who you are. Much love, we are who we are.
@@ponygirl6258 honestly . Part of the reason these "biology isn't real " people have so much attention online is because they are too toxic in IRL trnas spaces and they get pushed out . Trans women are biologicaly mostly male and I have not actually seen anyone deny this IRL ,trans or otherwise .
You support them by not affirming the delusion but by finding out what the root cause of the problem is and teaching them to feel comfortable in their own body. Edit for reply due to shadowbanning: There is no one root cause for every person, it would be like asking what the root cause of PTSD is. Individuals suffering from PTSD have all sorts of different inciting incidents, but they exhibit similar behaviours and ideations. Same is true of those who feel they are trans. I myself suffer from gender-dysphoria, and had I been born just one generation later, I have zero doubt I would've fallen for the narrative being pushed by trans-advocates, and I would've made life-altering decisions during a time I was extremely vulnerable. This is what's happening to hundreds of innocent kids all across the west. One of the 'root causes' is simply being uncomfortable with bodily changes, especially around the time of puberty. This is 100% normal and to be expected, it's nothing new. It especially happens with young girls going through puberty, having to deal with not only their changing bodies and hormones, but with the new attention they start receiving from adults, which many find uncomfortable in and of itself, but especially those who have suffered past trauma related to it. Ultimately, it boils down to a 'grass is greener on the other side' mentality. Kids think that by becoming someone else, they would be happier. And they're being told this over and over, with many even claiming it's the only way to avoid unaliving yourself. But most eventually learn they're no more happy in their new body than their old one, and worse yet, there's no going back to their old body after the 'safe and reversible' treatments they've endured at the hands of those that were supposed to protect them. They will suffer lifelong pain because all the adults simply affirmed them, instead of trying to help them become comfortable with their own body. Edit 2: The same kind of mentality was used to justify lobotomies. It also isn't guessing, there's a reason behind the explosion in 'trans-identifying' autistic girls and the appearance and prevalence of 'trans-identity' spreading through groups shows all the hallmarks of social contagion. And no, we know quite a lot about the cause, it's gender dysmorphia. What we were discussing is the root cause which triggers that, which is unique to every individual. Also, what guessing was there? It's just basic psychology which has been well known for ages. The guessing comes entirely from your side, guessing about puberty blockers (wrong) guessing about male/female brain differences (wrong) guessing about unalive rates post transition (wrong) and silencing any professionals sounding the alarm about the huge influx of detransitioners who were tricked and permanently mutilated thanks to your side's love and tolerance. Stop being ideological and think about the actual health and lives of the people you're affecting. No one cares if you choose to be trans as an adult, stop targeting kids and ruining their lives by convincing them they cannot live or be happy unless they transition. Stop the propaganda, stop the grooming, let kids be kids. Final edit: LOL the person who claims men can become women and women can become men questioning other people's grasp of reality? Thanks, I needed the laugh. It was an insinuating question, much like if I, out of nowhere, asked you if you were fond of illicit pornography. Trying to paint others negatively and then pretending you were just asking innocent questions is extremely cowardly and intellectually dishonest. ...not a good sign. Okay, I accept your apology and apologize for my own remarks. But see, this is arguing from consensus which is not scientific in any way, shape, or form. There was consensus that lobotomies were effective treatments for things like schizophrenia or bipolar. There was consensus that the sun revolved around the Earth. There was consensus that ailments and diseases simply appeared out of air as a miasma. Consensus is not evidence of truth, and especially not when there is such a concerted effort to ostracize, demonize, and censor evidence to the contrary, of which there are sizeable amounts. The same is true of Climate Change (that 97% figure comes from a single bad survey, and included mostly non-climatologists like dentists). A much more accurate report by the American Meteorogical Society found that, among those who actually study climate, it was much closer to 52%, with 48% dissenting. Science is never 'settled', and any claim that is is inherently unscientific. I highly, highly recommend looking further into the things you've been told to believe due to consensus and doing your own research. Unless you believe 48% of scientists are conspiracy theorists? In which case, are the 52% who agree not equally susceptible to conspiracy? No, in truth, individual scientists are just that; individuals. They are just as corruptible and self-interested as every other individual. It was doctors and scientists who protected tobacco companies, it was doctors and scientists who claimed fat was unhealthy and sugar was fine, it was doctors and scientists who infected unknowing victims with syphilis. There are good scientists and bad scientists, and doubly so when politics is involved. There is no consensus, and even if there were, it would not equate to truth. There need not be any grand conspiracy behind incorrect consensus, only an unwillingness to consider one's own fallibility. And that's what's on display here, an unwillingness to contend with information which goes against ideology. And the 'do you think there's some grand conspiracy behind the scenes' question can also be asked of you. Why do you think there's so many health professionals risking their careers and livelihoods to sound the alarm over transitioning kids? Do you honestly believe all these people, many of whom were previous advocates, just suddenly became bigots to the point of throwing away their professional careers just to 'spread misinformation' and 'own the libs'? In what world does that make sense? Or do you think it could be that they came across things which went against everything their ideology told them, saw the damage and pain being done to innocent people, and decided speaking up was the only way they could live with themselves, even if it cost them their jobs and livelihoods? Why are we only getting whistleblowers from organizations which advocate/perform transitions on children but no whistleblowers from so called anti-trans groups admitting to being paid to give misinformation? The 'conspiracy' claim works both ways, and it actually supports my side more than yours.
Well the medical diagnosis is gender dysphoria, usually caused by your brain not matching with the gender you were assigned at birth/sex and the only known treatment which eases gender dysphoria is transition. So it's pretty much impossible for trans people to suddenly stop having gender dysphoria and stop being trans just by submitting to their gender assigned at birth.
Im trans and I support this idea to a degree, but... if you manage to find a root cause, plz share it with the world and you might even get a noble prize for that finding. Also what if the root cause is fixed, what if you cant do anything about OR even what about that root cause actually would make transition the right thing? Considering a cause, we know very very little, almost anything could turn out to be true.
@@Miriam-nb9sh There is no one root cause for every person, it would be like asking what the root cause of PTSD is. Individuals suffering from PTSD have all sorts of different inciting incidents, but they exhibit similar behaviours and ideations. Same is true of those who feel they are trans. I myself suffer from gender-dysphoria, and had I been born just one generation later, I have zero doubt I would've fallen for the narrative being pushed by trans-advocates, and I would've made life-altering decisions during a time I was extremely vulnerable. This is what's happening to hundreds of innocent kids all across the west. One of the 'root causes' is simply being uncomfortable with bodily changes, especially around the time of puberty. This is 100% normal and to be expected, it's nothing new. It especially happens with young girls going through puberty, having to deal with not only their changing bodies and hormones, but with the new attention they start receiving from adults, which many find uncomfortable in and of itself, but especially those who have suffered past trauma related to it. Ultimately, it boils down to a 'grass is greener on the other side' mentality. Kids think that by becoming someone else, they would be happier. And they're being told this over and over, with many even claiming it's the only way to avoid unaliving yourself. But most eventually learn they're no more happy in their new body than their old one, and worse yet, there's no going back to their old body after the 'safe and reversible' treatments they've endured at the hands of those that were supposed to protect them. They will suffer lifelong pain because all the adults simply affirmed them, instead of trying to help them become comfortable with their own body.
@@Miriam-nb9sh If we know very very little, why are we allowing it then? Sounds like doing something permanent to your body over something we know very little about is not a good idea....
Are we a people interested in the question of Truth? Or will we be obliged to rest our foundations of social interactions on a lie? Does this matter to anyone?
Far too many people believe the lies against trans people because it's easier. It doesn't take any effort to ignore the freaks and agree with the "common sense" arguments. The truth is trans people are being singled out and excluded from more and more of society based on lies. Politicians and pundits do this to give the masses someone to blame their problems.
@@r-platt No one is exluding trans people from anything. Transwomen aren't excluded from sports. Just from the category they *categorically* don't belong in: female. Like any other men. It's not singleing them out. Transmen - if they're not doped with T - are fine competing in the female category (aka womens sport). So if transmen are not allowed to compete in the womens category it's because of performance enhancing drugs. Not because they're "trans". It's the fault and problem of transwomen (men/males) when transgressing and therefore being rejected. Many people have issues or make (have to make) life choices which will interfere with their ability to be competetive in sports. For some there are special categories. Like seniors or disabled persons. The womens category is not the "B"-category for non-competetive men, however they "identify".
Caster Semenya should provide evidence backing up his claim that he is a woman. All he does is assert he is a different kind of woman. No, he isn't. He is a man with a DSD. He is a different kind of man. In interviews, he has said people started realizing he was a boy when he was five.
@@leevan2332 wrong. Religious people worship a different jesus. They worship the man dressed in fine clothing not the stone the builders rejected. Who did you go out to see? Seems like you ran into Lucifer the lightbringer bringer of knowledge
@@leevan2332 if you believe the Bible is true what did God say about eating from the Tree of knowledge? Do you believe that? Because you have some apple on your chin right there.
So if you went to the doctor tomorrow and they told you you were actually the opposite sex because you had an intersex condition, would you immediately tell everyone to call you the opposite pronoun? Like there's seriously no leeway for intersex conditions? Caster was raised as a girl.
Im trans ( im female) and this is ver very refreshing . Trans rights are not going to be won by being horrible to the rest of society . I am leaving this message because i hope Doriana will know at least one trans person who thinks she is doing a great work advocating for the rights of most trans people
You're a trans man?
THEY attack trans people and it's trans people's fault?
Nothing in this is valid biology.
Do you know why women's sports was segregated?
THEY STARTED BEATING MEN.
Wow. Imagine women being better at sports than men.
It happens consistently in some sports.
But that doesn't fit the narrative of this disgusting ideology that excludes trans people from society.
@@r-platt Where do you get this nonsense from? I mean, for real? Do you really believe that? We have decades over decades of comparable sports data between men and women and their records. What are you talking about? If it were true, wouldn't that be common knowledge? Like that dogs bark and cats don't?
Is it a really big conspiracy that the - in reality stronger than man - women just downplay to not bruise the male ego? Please, tell me. How has it been hidden from everyone that women are stronger? Why aren't women the "protectors" or mainly represented in physical labour jobs? Please, tell me the theory how women got men to do the hard work when they are the physiological stronger ones. Enlighten me.
Oh yes, and then you'll find the one or two instances were the female body has advantages. Like in some gymnastics and in cerain circumstances in endurance (marathons are still dominated by men). And that was "the reason" for sports segregation? I don't now if you really have been that fooled by someone or for some personal reason really really want it to be true. But well, it's not. Sorry.
There's nothing wrong with being trans. The only problem comes up when trans persons try to claim biology that isn't theirs. A transwoman isn't a woman. She is a transwoman, and that's OK. Be who you are. Much love, we are who we are.
@@ponygirl6258 honestly . Part of the reason these "biology isn't real " people have so much attention online is because they are too toxic in IRL trnas spaces and they get pushed out . Trans women are biologicaly mostly male and I have not actually seen anyone deny this IRL ,trans or otherwise .
You support them by not affirming the delusion but by finding out what the root cause of the problem is and teaching them to feel comfortable in their own body.
Edit for reply due to shadowbanning: There is no one root cause for every person, it would be like asking what the root cause of PTSD is. Individuals suffering from PTSD have all sorts of different inciting incidents, but they exhibit similar behaviours and ideations. Same is true of those who feel they are trans. I myself suffer from gender-dysphoria, and had I been born just one generation later, I have zero doubt I would've fallen for the narrative being pushed by trans-advocates, and I would've made life-altering decisions during a time I was extremely vulnerable. This is what's happening to hundreds of innocent kids all across the west.
One of the 'root causes' is simply being uncomfortable with bodily changes, especially around the time of puberty. This is 100% normal and to be expected, it's nothing new. It especially happens with young girls going through puberty, having to deal with not only their changing bodies and hormones, but with the new attention they start receiving from adults, which many find uncomfortable in and of itself, but especially those who have suffered past trauma related to it.
Ultimately, it boils down to a 'grass is greener on the other side' mentality. Kids think that by becoming someone else, they would be happier. And they're being told this over and over, with many even claiming it's the only way to avoid unaliving yourself. But most eventually learn they're no more happy in their new body than their old one, and worse yet, there's no going back to their old body after the 'safe and reversible' treatments they've endured at the hands of those that were supposed to protect them. They will suffer lifelong pain because all the adults simply affirmed them, instead of trying to help them become comfortable with their own body.
Edit 2: The same kind of mentality was used to justify lobotomies.
It also isn't guessing, there's a reason behind the explosion in 'trans-identifying' autistic girls and the appearance and prevalence of 'trans-identity' spreading through groups shows all the hallmarks of social contagion.
And no, we know quite a lot about the cause, it's gender dysmorphia. What we were discussing is the root cause which triggers that, which is unique to every individual.
Also, what guessing was there? It's just basic psychology which has been well known for ages.
The guessing comes entirely from your side, guessing about puberty blockers (wrong) guessing about male/female brain differences (wrong) guessing about unalive rates post transition (wrong) and silencing any professionals sounding the alarm about the huge influx of detransitioners who were tricked and permanently mutilated thanks to your side's love and tolerance.
Stop being ideological and think about the actual health and lives of the people you're affecting. No one cares if you choose to be trans as an adult, stop targeting kids and ruining their lives by convincing them they cannot live or be happy unless they transition.
Stop the propaganda, stop the grooming, let kids be kids.
Final edit: LOL the person who claims men can become women and women can become men questioning other people's grasp of reality? Thanks, I needed the laugh.
It was an insinuating question, much like if I, out of nowhere, asked you if you were fond of illicit pornography. Trying to paint others negatively and then pretending you were just asking innocent questions is extremely cowardly and intellectually dishonest. ...not a good sign.
Okay, I accept your apology and apologize for my own remarks.
But see, this is arguing from consensus which is not scientific in any way, shape, or form. There was consensus that lobotomies were effective treatments for things like schizophrenia or bipolar. There was consensus that the sun revolved around the Earth. There was consensus that ailments and diseases simply appeared out of air as a miasma.
Consensus is not evidence of truth, and especially not when there is such a concerted effort to ostracize, demonize, and censor evidence to the contrary, of which there are sizeable amounts.
The same is true of Climate Change (that 97% figure comes from a single bad survey, and included mostly non-climatologists like dentists). A much more accurate report by the American Meteorogical Society found that, among those who actually study climate, it was much closer to 52%, with 48% dissenting.
Science is never 'settled', and any claim that is is inherently unscientific. I highly, highly recommend looking further into the things you've been told to believe due to consensus and doing your own research.
Unless you believe 48% of scientists are conspiracy theorists? In which case, are the 52% who agree not equally susceptible to conspiracy? No, in truth, individual scientists are just that; individuals. They are just as corruptible and self-interested as every other individual. It was doctors and scientists who protected tobacco companies, it was doctors and scientists who claimed fat was unhealthy and sugar was fine, it was doctors and scientists who infected unknowing victims with syphilis. There are good scientists and bad scientists, and doubly so when politics is involved.
There is no consensus, and even if there were, it would not equate to truth. There need not be any grand conspiracy behind incorrect consensus, only an unwillingness to consider one's own fallibility. And that's what's on display here, an unwillingness to contend with information which goes against ideology.
And the 'do you think there's some grand conspiracy behind the scenes' question can also be asked of you. Why do you think there's so many health professionals risking their careers and livelihoods to sound the alarm over transitioning kids? Do you honestly believe all these people, many of whom were previous advocates, just suddenly became bigots to the point of throwing away their professional careers just to 'spread misinformation' and 'own the libs'? In what world does that make sense?
Or do you think it could be that they came across things which went against everything their ideology told them, saw the damage and pain being done to innocent people, and decided speaking up was the only way they could live with themselves, even if it cost them their jobs and livelihoods? Why are we only getting whistleblowers from organizations which advocate/perform transitions on children but no whistleblowers from so called anti-trans groups admitting to being paid to give misinformation?
The 'conspiracy' claim works both ways, and it actually supports my side more than yours.
Well the medical diagnosis is gender dysphoria, usually caused by your brain not matching with the gender you were assigned at birth/sex and the only known treatment which eases gender dysphoria is transition. So it's pretty much impossible for trans people to suddenly stop having gender dysphoria and stop being trans just by submitting to their gender assigned at birth.
Im trans and I support this idea to a degree, but... if you manage to find a root cause, plz share it with the world and you might even get a noble prize for that finding. Also what if the root cause is fixed, what if you cant do anything about OR even what about that root cause actually would make transition the right thing?
Considering a cause, we know very very little, almost anything could turn out to be true.
@@Miriam-nb9sh There is no one root cause for every person, it would be like asking what the root cause of PTSD is. Individuals suffering from PTSD have all sorts of different inciting incidents, but they exhibit similar behaviours and ideations. Same is true of those who feel they are trans. I myself suffer from gender-dysphoria, and had I been born just one generation later, I have zero doubt I would've fallen for the narrative being pushed by trans-advocates, and I would've made life-altering decisions during a time I was extremely vulnerable. This is what's happening to hundreds of innocent kids all across the west.
One of the 'root causes' is simply being uncomfortable with bodily changes, especially around the time of puberty. This is 100% normal and to be expected, it's nothing new. It especially happens with young girls going through puberty, having to deal with not only their changing bodies and hormones, but with the new attention they start receiving from adults, which many find uncomfortable in and of itself, but especially those who have suffered past trauma related to it.
Ultimately, it boils down to a 'grass is greener on the other side' mentality. Kids think that by becoming someone else, they would be happier. And they're being told this over and over, with many even claiming it's the only way to avoid unaliving yourself. But most eventually learn they're no more happy in their new body than their old one, and worse yet, there's no going back to their old body after the 'safe and reversible' treatments they've endured at the hands of those that were supposed to protect them. They will suffer lifelong pain because all the adults simply affirmed them, instead of trying to help them become comfortable with their own body.
@@Miriam-nb9sh If we know very very little, why are we allowing it then? Sounds like doing something permanent to your body over something we know very little about is not a good idea....
@@smexijebus That is alot of guessing on your side...
Are we a people interested in the question of Truth? Or will we be obliged to rest our foundations of social interactions on a lie? Does this matter to anyone?
Far too many people believe the lies against trans people because it's easier. It doesn't take any effort to ignore the freaks and agree with the "common sense" arguments.
The truth is trans people are being singled out and excluded from more and more of society based on lies.
Politicians and pundits do this to give the masses someone to blame their problems.
@@r-platt No one is exluding trans people from anything. Transwomen aren't excluded from sports. Just from the category they *categorically* don't belong in: female. Like any other men. It's not singleing them out. Transmen - if they're not doped with T - are fine competing in the female category (aka womens sport). So if transmen are not allowed to compete in the womens category it's because of performance enhancing drugs. Not because they're "trans".
It's the fault and problem of transwomen (men/males) when transgressing and therefore being rejected. Many people have issues or make (have to make) life choices which will interfere with their ability to be competetive in sports.
For some there are special categories. Like seniors or disabled persons. The womens category is not the "B"-category for non-competetive men, however they "identify".
Caster Semenya should provide evidence backing up his claim that he is a woman. All he does is assert he is a different kind of woman. No, he isn't. He is a man with a DSD. He is a different kind of man. In interviews, he has said people started realizing he was a boy when he was five.
22:57 to 23:53 - Comically prudish.
Yeah no
You can be LGBT and Christian 👨❤️👨
No you cant ....You worship another Jesus....
@@leevan2332 wrong. Religious people worship a different jesus. They worship the man dressed in fine clothing not the stone the builders rejected. Who did you go out to see? Seems like you ran into Lucifer the lightbringer bringer of knowledge
@@ddrse It’s clear you do not know Gods Word or even fear God….I pray God reveals His Truth to you ….God Bless
@@leevan2332 if you believe the Bible is true what did God say about eating from the Tree of knowledge? Do you believe that? Because you have some apple on your chin right there.
@@ddrse we all have apple on our chin ….We live in a fallen World
😂
STOP calling him she/her Caster Semanya is a man and a father.
So if you went to the doctor tomorrow and they told you you were actually the opposite sex because you had an intersex condition, would you immediately tell everyone to call you the opposite pronoun? Like there's seriously no leeway for intersex conditions? Caster was raised as a girl.
Semanya was born intersex (DSD).
The thinking and feeling part of her that responds to you is female. That's why she/her is correct.
Caster Semenya is an intersex woman and is not a father.
@@GuacamoleKunWhether he would or not, does the truth not matter? He may have a hard time accepting the reality, but must everyone deny new facts?
@r-platt I don't understand what you mean. There is no woman thinking/feeling.