The Truth About the Nakba by Benny Morris
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- The 1948 Arab-Israeli War, also known as the War of Independence by Israelis and the Nakba (Catastrophe) by Palestinians, was a pivotal and complex conflict that resulted in the establishment of the state of Israel and had lasting repercussions for the entire Middle East. The war began following the end of British Mandate in Palestine and the United Nations' partition plan, which proposed dividing Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states.
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Zuheir Mohsen, a then senior leader of the PLO said in 1977: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means of continuing our struggle against the State of Israel for our Arab unity."
Great find!!!
Tx for the quote. I've heard it elsewhere and on good authority (clip of a Newspaper article of the time), but have no attribution for it (publication, I mean), does any one have such?
is it egip syria jordab iraq libia tunic algeria truthly "arab state
@@dagwould "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
~ Zahir Muhsein, PLO Executive Committee Member
Source: Dutch Newspaper Trouw, 1977
@@MariaCader I think so.
Nakba = "We tried to kill you. We failed. We are the victims".
THIS.
@@mancunianmartin558 Fair, but mine does include the demonstrable fact that they tired to kill all of the Jews.
Let me help you with this
The Nakba did happen but the Israelis lied about it and deceived the world.
A common trend
Lies and deceivers
There fixed it for you
Your welcome
@@manipulatorismWithout lies, Islam dies! The Koran does not include the Ten Commandments, including “Thou shalt not lie” but does encourage lying, otherwise known as “Taqiyya”, by following Mohammad’s example. In that sense, you would make a good muslim.
@@mancunianmartin558 In the first instance, "nakba" was the term used by the Arabic press of the day to refer to the FAILURE of the Arabs to destroy Israel in 1948. The term was later transposed to mean the "plight of the Palestinians".
Great piece. Not many people want to hear the truth. Well done for standing up.
That zionists came to set up an ethnostate at the expense of the local population, which we expected to be totally cool with that? It's a recipe for perpetual conflict. Look at Northern Ireland. Scottish and Engligh protestant came to conquer and rule over the native Irish. They still have not been reconciled over 400 years later.
Yeah pity its not the truth then.
@@davidarchibald50 Which part(s) do you not believe is the truth?
It's not "his" truth. Nothing you can do to change his mind.
Not great and not truthful. Nobody ever claimed Arabs sat around peacefully as their land, homes, farms, villages, towns were taken over by Jewish refugees from Europe. They fought back. Why wouldn't they? Zionists cynically used Arab resistance to justify ever more repression and ever more seizures creating ever more resistance and here we are.
It is telling that Zahir Muhse’in, member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) Executive Committee, said the following in a 1977 interview with the Amsterdam-based newspaper Trouw. “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism.”
Thank you for providing that source. I was wondering where it originated. It explains a good deal.
The Palestinian people are as real as the Taiwanese people.
As a "fellow subscriber of het Dagblad Trouw" I can only confirm that your statement is absolutely correct!!
👋😃🇳🇱
good reason to absolutely support Israel. What a sick strategy.
Of course their identity was never real. They are liars.
They lost their war and their attempted invasion. Went on to rename it something stupid and pretend to be victims. Am Yisrael Chai Forever 🎗️
Yeah Palestinians did loose the war against the invaders. I guess that makes the colonizers right!
@@FelipeCoelhoGuitar loose?
@@FelipeCoelhoGuitar Invaders? Generations of Jews have been living on that land for longer than even Islam has existed as a religion. Jews had as much right, if not more, to set up a nation for themselves after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. I don't know why the Islamic Arab peoples who were living there at the time couldn't just become cohabitants. Actually, I do know why they couldn't, because of their supremacist religious beliefs that Jews must be a suppressed minority under Islam, not equals.
@@FelipeCoelhoGuitar actually Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, etc. etc. but you don't know history and try to invent history. Dig a hole anywhere in Israel and you will find our rich history that predates Islam. Am Yisrael Chai Forever 🎗️
They must be democrats...
"Nakba (Catastrophe) by Palestinians, was a pivotal and complex conflict that resulted in the establishment of the state of Israel"
Um, no.. the Nakba FOLLOWED the establishment of the state of Israel, namely followed the Arab attack on the state of Israel.
Nakba = "We tried to kill them. We failed. We are the victims".
No, the expulsions began during the 1947 civil war
Thank you for your clarity. Until 1948 it was Arabs and Jews, they were all Palestinian. The Arabs really weren't called Palestinian till the 60's. The Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Their corrupt leadeship has always been the problem
They always create the problems that will destroy them and always cry wolf instead of learning arabs will never come back and reinvent themselves like the Japanese did after WW2 without our need for gas they would have nothing
Wow , you've got amazing clarity on such a complicated issue..
Strange. In his memoirs, my great grandfather, who is Lebanese, used to refer to himself as Lebanese, and his southern neighbors as Palestinians in the late 19th century. Just because Lebanon and Palestine were not independent, autonomous, self-governed countries does not mean their people did not have a strong regional identity. Regardless, it is irrelevant whether or not the indigenous population called themselves Palestinian or not. The cities there had been inhabited by the same people for millennia. If you go back far enough, they were polytheists, then around a 1,000 BC, they were Jewish, around 400-600 AD they converted mostly to Christianity, and then from 700-800, the converted mostly to Islam. But they were always the same people until today.
@@KimPhilby203 foggy clarity
It's also alleged that the KGB saw the opportunity in the 60s to sow discord and facilitated the labeling of Arabs as 'Palestinians'.
This needs to be put in the New York Times as a rebuttal to this misleading article
Article was not accidentally misleading, it was propaganda. The lies are the point for them.
Give her another warm and spicy soup from aipak and you will experience propaganda and fabricated stories that you never heard in you life. Lies lies lies that all what they breed.
More people will watch this RUclips video, than people read the NY Times article.
NYT the other wrote a whole article about 50+ years of "ISRAELI "SETTLER" terrorism" and how the Israeli government is complicit in anti-Palestinian terrorism like tf
There is only one problem with that. The NYT's focus is on generating propaganda and hiding the truth from others. They very much know the truth, but they simply don't want it known.
After the WW1 the Ottoman Empire collapsed and their territories south of Turkey were controlled by France and England. Both the Arabs and Jews were promised their own lands. The Arabs were given Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria, over 95% of the territory and the Jew were to get Israel
There is something wrong with your math. No matter how you slice it the Palestinians had to get out of the way for half a million colonizing European Jews migrating to the area in a twenty or so year period. The native population of Palestine was displaced from their homes and still being displaced today.
@@ezeqruls No Palestinians were displaced from their homes unless they went to war against Israel. Then Israel has every right to take their homes and land as punishment. There are over two million Palestinians Arabs both Muslim and Christian who live peacefully in Israel who never had anything taken from them. Can you say the same thing for all the Jews of North Africa and the Middle East outside Israel? Most of the so called Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank are less Palestinian than the Jews from Europe are. During the British occupation Arabs came from all over the Middle East to Palestine to work for the British. Most the so called Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are descendants of these people and not any original inhabitants of Palestine. By the way all the ethnic Jews of Europe trace their ancestry back to the original twelve tribes of Jews from Palestine. Ethnic Jews ancestors are all from Palestine, of course most converted Jews are not.
The Palestinians were offered the opportunity to live in Arab Muslim states Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria or they could have chosen to live peacefully in a Jewish state Israel as many hundreds of thousands of other did. They were even offered a two state solution where Israel would give up some of the territory promised them. They accepted none of the compromises and chose war instead. The second they chose war the forfeited any rights to land and territory in Israel or anywhere for that matter. The Germans didn’t get Kaliningrad or any of East Prussia back after initiating world war two they are now parts of Russia and Poland. When you choose war instead of peaceful negotiations and you lose you take what the victor gives you period. That is the way the world the always worked. Otherwise all of Palestine would still be part of the Ottoman Empire.
@@ezeqruls…your wrong ….the Zionist diaspora…or return to the promised land from east Europe and Russia started in 1882….thousands and thousands came over sea and the land route via Turkey …..Tel Aviv was just a barren beach in 1910 but the Jews built and grew ….Hitlers legacy ( if he had one ) was that in 1945 at the end of the 2nd world war the survivors from the death camp wanted a safe haven ….and decided to follow earlier examples and return to Zion …..
@@ezeqruls you really need to lay off the Kool aid and read a book. You obviously don't know what diaspora, exile, decolonisation or indigenous means.
Thank you for setting the record straight!
Great video ❤
In my case, my Jewish grandparents were originally from Iraq but had to flee, with the main turning point being the Farhud pogrom in 1941.
In 1941 in irak was the Farhud. Pogrom that Arabs slaughtered jews. Also in marocco in 1912 was the Trital in the city of fez were Arabs also slaughtered jews. And also in 1948 in marocco in the city of ojda Arabs slaughtered jees
My grandparents left Iraq in the early 1900s because of anti-Jewish pogroms.
@larryjacob6986 and the Arabs stole jewish homes and bank accounts....
@@larryjacob6986 They recovered Torah scrolls and other Judaica from Iraq during the US invasion. Oddly enough, I got to relax by a river at a compund in Al Hila, while listening to a cd I bought from a local. The song was "By the rivers of Babylon" by Boney M. Didnt realize the significance til after I came home.
@@Joe-pc3hs Coincidentally, Jews of Iraqi ancestry sing "By the rivers of Babylon ..." (Psalm 137) in a mournful tune for the week before "Tish'a B'av" (the 9th day of the month of Av), in commemoration of the destruction of the Holy Temples in Jerusalem that (both) occurred on that date (in 586 BCE and 70 AD).
Interesting that in my synagogue (in Israel), there is a worshipper who emigrated from Hila Iraq. (He wrote a book about the former Jewish community there.)
*Kudos to you for your courage and dedicated service in Iraq.*
Well said!
"..having no agency..". Indeed, we are meant to think they are infants and victims, entirely without free will. No. They decided to do Oct 7, nobody else. It was their atrocity alone. And celebrated and excused as soon as it happened. This again was purposeful and fully intentional.
Who's that now? I thought hchkchmas did the 7th.. surely you cant mean all Palestinians.. cos that would be racist
yeah it started on the 7th 1. Haifa Massacre 1937
2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
3. Haifa Massacre 1938
4. Balad al-Shaykh Massacre 1939
5. Haifa Massacre 1939
6. Haifa Massacre 1947
7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
12. Jaffa Massacre 1948
13. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
14. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
15. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
16. Al-Aqsa
Massacre 1990
17. Ibrahimi 1. Haifa Massacre 1937
2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
3. Haifa Massacre 1938
4. Balad al-Shaykh Massacre 1939
5. Haifa Massacre 1939
6. Haifa Massacre 1947
7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
12. Jaffa Massacre 1948
13. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
14. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
15. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
16. Al-Aqsa
Massacre 1990
17. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994
18. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
19. Gaza Massacre 2008-09
20. Gaza Massacre 2012
21. Gaza Massacre 2014
22. Gaza Massacre 2018-19
23. Gaza Massacre 2021
24. Gaza Genocide 2023/24 of
still ongoing.Mosque Massacre 1994
18. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
19. Gaza Massacre 2008-09
20. Gaza Massacre 2012
21. Gaza Massacre 2014
22. Gaza Massacre 2018-19
23. Gaza Massacre 2021
24. Gaza Genocide 2023/24 of
still ongoing.
The expulsions of the Indigenous population by the Zionists was also purposeful and intentional. As was Netanyahu's support for Hamas.
They did celebrate, sharing sweets on the streets. Nobody forced them@@shaunboots4075
Ofcurse its hams.. and pro hams lots and lots of 'palestinians'..ofcurse not all of them cause then its only being racist @@shaunboots4075
Well done. Long live beautiful Israel 🇮🇱.
Thank you for this great video! I grew up with all the Pro-Palestine propaganda, supported by left wing, and I had heated discussions with my friends in the 1980s. I was the only one in this group who tried to argue with the facts stated in this video (I was not aware of all of them) while my friends passionately supported Palestine, because it was 'the duty of all young left or liberal people'. My friends admitted many years later that they belived I was a Nazi, because I supported Isreal. Although we were young and a bit naive back than it pained me to hear that.
More pro-Palestine propaganda, this time from Israelis.
ruclips.net/video/ExkOxmMMwSM/видео.html
Well done you were much more enlightened than your friends.
Bless you
wow. twisted lies, propaganda, and gaslighting of the left and palestinians. I suppose they will soon argue that Hitler was a Zionist and jewish, so it really was whatever that idiot Whoopi said.
Your friends were ill informed, have similar heated disagreements with many of my friends about this issue..I’m struck by the level of disinformation and misinformation that permeates the topic. This video is an excellent factual take on the history of the region.
Palestinians didn’t exist during the Partition Plan they appeared in 1967.
It was the Arab League that refused the Partition Plan.
But the entire Land was already the Jewish State from the 1922 San Remo Conference where the Arab Delegation stated that Palestine was the Jewish Homeland and just wanted what’s now Lebanon, Syria and Iraq.
The Jewish Delegation agreed.
The League of Nations and the British Mandate followed the San Remo Conference.
It doesn't matter what you decide to call them, they were the indigenous population of the land, it wasn't the right of the colonial power to give it away
Correct, see the agreement between Faisal and Weizmann from January 1919 in the Paris peace conference. The Arabs want big Arabs state in the area that today syria jordan and irak. Only when the Arabs learned about the secret agreement between britain and france called sies picot agreement that syria given to france, only then they started to develop new identity separated from the syrian and the Jordanians. But the Arabs palestinian are the same people like the syria and the Jordanians. Before israel establishment they called themselves Arabs not palestinian.
@@miraladak2314 No, they aren't, JEWS ARE! 'Palestinians' aren't a people, they are a political group akin to the Nazis. And they aren't from Israel, they are Arabs, which come from, WAIT FOR IT... The Arabian Peninsula!
@@miraladak2314
If they’re the Indigenous why is their Religion, Culture and Language Native to Arabia not Palestine.
Have you noticed that the major Cities in Palestine have Canaanite/Hebrew Names?
@@miraladak2314 Israel is _not_ a colonial power. They came back to their ancestral homeland. When, throughout history, was there _ever_ a State of Palestine? When the invading Romans proclaimed "Judea capta" [Judea (Southern part of Israel) is captured] they renamed the land "Palestina". Palestine was always a geographical region ruled by foreign powers.
But there *was* an Israel in ancient times. It's back and here to stay.
The Nakba started in 637 CE. That's when the Arab Muslim Army came in and conquered the land.
They prevented both Jews and Christians from building new religions buildings. Non Muslims paid protection taxes. So many rights removed.
キリスト教諸国の異教徒やユダヤ人迫害の方が余程酷かった❗
At the same time, Muhammad's men attacked our country Persian (Iran) killed about one million of our men and raped at least one hundred thousand women and girls in one attack, to bring us the message of the religion of “peace”
Then why they kept the foundation stone, ah did not at that time it was the Christian who persecuted the Jewish 😂 and if they were genocidal why Jewish still exist 😂.
@@学浪川 it could. But two wrongs don’t make it right. And also, the Christians aren’t crying nakba. We are discussing the nakba lie, not anything else.
カトリックの十字軍のやったことを考えて下さい❗️彼らはムスリムやユダヤ人ばかりがクリスチャンでも正教やヤコブ派やコプト派等を迫害しました❗️(但しカトリックに忠誠を誓ったメルク派やマロン派は別)今のシオニスト・イスラエルもアラブにとっては自分達にとって替わる嘗てのカトリックの十字軍みたいに見えたのでしょう❗@@Eitanlevy36
Thank you for making this video. This video is one of the very few factual and truthful reports on the history of the situation. Everyone should see this and know this.
What many people dont know and it is not mentioned is that the British Mandate of Palestine land did include what is today Jordan that was created in 1947 1 year before Israel and Jordan got 70-75% of the former Palestine land while Israel got what was left, about 25% but some arabs didnt agree and they wanted all former Palestine to be arab land and this goes on till today.
It true palestina included jordan and britain gave the eastern part of palestina to the Hashemite family from Saudi arabia for they help in first world war. 70% of Jordanians are palestinian.
Yes, and any fair peace negociation must include this. And the jewish refugees from Muslim countries. (not only the Palestinians that suffered the Nakba).
Because Morris is a liar.
I love how the only way you could think this is by being racist and assume all Arabs are the same. Imagine if this applied to Europeans or white people.
@@mochithepooh5368 all arabs belong to arab nation it is an ethnic group same as jews belong to the jewish nation. There is no "palestinian" nation, those so called "palestinians" are arabs.
And this is why I will never support Palestinians
Great video. This topic has become one where anyone can give their opinion and no one pushes back on falsehoods.
I do. Regularly. But then people point to publications like the NY Times and have more faith in the publication than just some rando who likes history and accuracy
I do, quite often but it's like talking to a brick most of the time. Supporters of hamas et al prefer to stick to information made up on tiktok! I swear if we had a time machine and took them back to the actual events in front of their eyes, they'd still try to deny it 😄
@@Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak The same way they deny the Holocaust, they are taught lies but never look for the truth.
Falsehoods like "a land without a people, for a people without a land"?
Israel is not the issue,the real Jews are not from Europe,thanks to the Bible and a map Zionist bloodline will forever know the truth . Zionism is only 140 years old.
I wish that I could take up arms and spend all day protesting the injustice that governments rain down on me and my family but I have to work to provide food and pay the bills just to survive.
How is it that Gaza .... such a poor country, can spend all day plotting and scheming *and never go hungry?* I mean seriously, how is that all these people wander around all day wear masks and chanting slogans and plotting "revenge" and yet they never get hungry? ... it cannot be done ..... unless ....
How to achieve relative self-governance?
"To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction, noted, registered, counted,
TAXED, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, reformed, corrected, punished, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so."
Pierre-Joseph Proudhon (1809-1865)
@@faza553 It matters not if you are governed at every operation or not. One cannot spend all day warring without going hungry. Not satisfying that hunger leads to death by starvation. It is that simple. Protest and resistance needs to be funded.
@TheCompleteGuitarist they got over 40 BILLION dollars in aid and chose to use it to build a terrorist camp instead of investing in infrastructure and industry for the gazan people. And at least 17 billion of that was pocketed by humus leaders...I guess they threw the scraps of what was leftover to feed themselves. Time to stop funding I slam terrorists completely.
@@TheCompleteGuitarist a good point, very well made.
Well, you might want to revise that observation in the light of current events. Have you seen the state of Gaza right now? Mass starvation is what is happening in that pile of rubble.
so true. palastinians and their supporters will have you believe that they were just sitting in their villages and watchingthe sheep when the tanks came. the truth is that teh tanks came but only from the syrian and egyptian side, and they told the locals to either join up or run away. they mostly chose to fight, as they also have before the 1947 un resolution, or the 1948 invasion of the arab armies. of course tehy did not consider themselves to be "palastinins" back then, and had tibal ties in mostly egypt. then after they waged war wiith superior forces and very brutal battles, where they had no ualms abot killing prisoners or attacking jewish civilians they were pushed back. ever since they have done all in their power to go against israel , they refuse peace, and always will. trusting them in the 1990s was a mistake, but we all know better now.
I can only imagine how terribly disturbing this all is for Israelis and for most Jews in the world. I'm not a Jew, but Oct 7th just guts me. I feel so ashamed as a Canadian of our tepid official responses. It's true we are in the field with you, such as it is. So am glad for that. But I don't see how the NATO , democratic countries can remain on the sidelines militarily, for much longer.
Just so you know, there are millions of Canadians across the political spectrum who support Israel's right to existence and our alliance with you. Not much comfort I suppose. But I sense a backlash coming against these hostile and ignorant protests and against your fanatical Arab/ Islamic enemies. I'm so sorry for what you're enduring.
@@Madmen604 we'll see ho wit goes with elections.... you can also reach out to MPS that represent you or city council members to increase enforcement measures. i hear Toronto in particular is awash with pro hamas bastards...
@@Madmen604 replies from people like you just guts me.
Thank you for your journalism. We need to include that Islam viewed Jews as Dhimmi, second class citizens forbidden from defending themselves and restricted property rights. That Adriaan Reland record that in 1699 most settlements were Jewish or Christian and that the only permanent Islamic inhabitants he found were 100 souls in Nablus. When we put these two facts together of second class citizens, and of having an ethnic majority in 1699 beer with a small population and expanded to all Islamic lands in the former caliphate, we see a much deeper picture. Jews live throughout Islamic lands and we’re persecuted a second class citizens throat Islamic lands, and were systemically prevented from creating a critical mass of people in their homeland, where they always lived. So today the argument is because we prevented youfrom collaborating and protecting yourselves and owning land and having the right to self determination because you don’t have a historical record of that for the entire long time we rude you a second-class citizens we get to continue to roll your second class citizens because you’ve lost your right to it because we prevent you from having them. This is the Muslim argument.
(find an fix your typos and grammatical errors) - otherwise - great comment
And leftists and Muslims want Jews to live under those type of people💀
Even when rulers of the Arab and Muslim world changed their laws.”, that doesn’t mean that the Quran did too.
What people don’t understand about Islam is that Islam is not changeable. It is a timeless religion.
Which is why Muslim countries are filled with hate and genocidal freaks, and genocidal history towards Jews and other minorities. And minorities in Muslim countries are known to be oppressed to suffer under those Stone Age colonizers.
To expect Jews and other minorities to live under them and calling their non colonial indigenous nations “colonial” meanwhile muslim and Arab countries came into existence through oppression, wars and colonization is crazy.
If the Arab Palestinians call their displacement a catastrophe, do they mean the war was a catastrophe?
Because if the Arab world didn't declare war on Israel, and if partition had been accepted in the first place...maybe there would be peace today ..and mutually beneficial collaboration between the Arabs and Israelis.
God said you have to give me half of your stuff.. When can I collect?
@@shaunboots4075 Depends ...was it Allah or Yahweh talking?
Because Allah says Death to Jews and death to America. No sharing.
Buddy. The Arabs didn't even own land they leased it from the Sultan.
@@shaunboots4075original.
If you read the now declassified founding documents of Israel, the Jewish Agency publicly accepted the Partition, but they never actually accepted it in terms of policy. They sent their paramilitaries to attack Palestinian villages that were allotted for the Palestinian State according to the Partition. This was before the Arab Israeli War, which she did not include in her propaganda video here. The Israeli’s always intended to colonize all of historic Palestine, eventually. Acceptance of the Partition Plan at the UN was just to get their foot on the door for international recognition.
Have any more questions? Ask me! Non-biased Jew here.
@@chezbh do you have a reference for those documents please. Otherwise I cannot verify your information.
Didn't you notice that the Palestinian children always SMILE when they are interviewed and REPORT to the journalists what has happened to their families WITHOUT showing a SPARK of emotion...... or making a single mistake in their (prepared ?) text!!!😊
Benny Morris is my favorite cuddly historian and you, Claire, and Douglas Murray are my favorite political people on the interwebs...
ok Nazi
Es un historiador muy imparcial
In 1948 after Israel declared independence (end of british rule), Jordan army crossed the Jordan river into Judea & Samaria (known as the west bank by MSM) and east Jerusalem. The Jordan army killed or drove away the Jewish people. The Jordan army then destroyed Jewish property or took it over. Jordan then encouraged Jordanian settlement in the occupied land. Jewish property not destroyed became occupied by Jordanians. After the Israeli victory in 1967 and Jordnian disillusionment with their expansion effort (1988), Jordan revoked the Jordanian citizenship of "palestinians" in Judea & Samaria (known as the west bank by MSM) and east Jerusalem. For the most part "palestinians" are leftover Jordanian colonist (Gaza residents more closely tied to Egypt). The homeland of the majority of "palestinians" is Jordan.
Thanks for this information. I think this is a relevant topic for the overall context, where we are made to believe that only Arabs where victims in 1948 (altough they started the war). Where would I find more information on this?
Nakba = We the majority were offered a great deal of land, we refused to accept this great deal and joined together with other pals to make war against you, we failed and you won and took a bit more land, we are therefore the victims! What!
unilateral annexation is illegal under UN charter and international law
thanks for playing
@@JacobTheThinker yes they do; US rejection of russia's claims on crimea is an example
we also would not partition the mandate today the wya it was done at the time; Palestinians were the majority in the lands carved for Israel
look at yugoslavia as how reasonable partitions happen under international oversight
International Zionists bought up to 6% of the lands until the British stopped them
@@Torric25
Under international law the land west of Jordan belongs to Israel:
1. UN/LON decision of 1920 (allocating dissolved Ottoman empire land) ratified by UN article 80.
2. Uti possidetis juris rule of international law where Israel is the Inheritor of GB mandate borders on the day GB left and Israel was reinstituted.
@@ef2718 not really mate. Good resource: Negotiating the Illegal: On the United Nations and the Illegal Occupation of Palestine, 1967-2020
@@Torric25 But 1948 wasn't a "unilateral annexation".. it wasn't an annexation AT ALL! What country did it belong to?!
The area was under the British control until they left.. and the Arab population refused division and failed to accept a state. So.. what country was the area annexed from??.. Britain??.. Jordan??
Thank you dear. You did an excellent job at discussing and backing up your argument. Thank you. Please continue to share this knowledge! ❤
Great piece, thank you. We need knowledgeable scholars, armed with facts and nuance, such as Benny Morris, more than we ever have done before.
NYT is really rotten to the core.
They basically always have been. They covered up the Soviet crimes against humanity for decades.
Finally a channel that is not scared to tell the truth!
Why do everyone forget that jordan was a part of brittish mandate for palestine. And in was guven to the arabs tven they started talking two states...
Because there are no jews there
In a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw, Zuheir Mohsen made the following statement:
"The Palestinian people does not exist … there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese. Between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese there are no differences. We are all part of one people, the Arab nation. Just for political reasons we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity. Because it is of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. Once we have acquired all our rights in all of Palestine, we must not delay for a moment the reunification of Jordan and Palestine".
When countries lose multiple Wars, they tend to lose territory.
It's impossible to make the actions of the so-called palestinian cause seem reasonable without distorting history and painting the arabs as having no agency and as if the arabs in 1947 british mandate of palestine were natives.
Ever wonder why UNRWA defines the palestinian refugees as arabs in british palestine between 1946 and 1948? Because the majority were IMMIGRANTS just like most zionists. Yes, some native arabs, like those of Deir Yassin, were displaced, but it's nothing compared to number of jews that were pogromed in arab lands and also not a single arab was displaced before 1948, wheras over a dozen jewish communities, some millernia old like in Hebron, were brutally wiped/driven out.
This is correct. Some 750,000 Jews were ethnically cleansed from Morocco, Algeria, Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Yemen. It has been calculated that these Jews left behind land and property some four times the size of the newly created Israel !
That's simply not true. Palestinians are native and were displaced
@@RobinArchbotnope. Jews were also Palestinian but had actual agency and wanted an independent state. Palestinians (a made up people formed in the 60's by our Soviet friends) have been and still are leeching on victimhood and hate.
@@RobinArchbot That's simply not true, because they didn't even call themselves Palestinians (I believe I've read that was actually derogatory term at that time) until sometime after Israel became a country. Ethnically speaking, Palestinians are mostly Arabs and Egyptian. Not sure what you consider native, but the Arabs didn't arrive in Palestine until around the 7th century when Arab armies began conquering the middle east and north Africa etc (the start of Arab colonialism). But the whole place was pretty sparsely populated (Jews and Arabs) up until the 1800s which is when Jews began immigrating back to their homeland and began rebuilding their country. It was after this that most "Palestinians" immigrated from the surrounding regions (for jobs or to counter the growing Jewish population), and the British brought in migrant workers too. But Israel didn't kick anyone out; they actually invited the Arabs to stay and help them build their country with them (which is where the 2 million Israeli Arabs came from). The attacking Arabs armies are the ones that told civilians Arabs people to leave before they attacked in 1948, thinking they'd quickly wipe out the Jews and then everyone could come back. Oops.
@@premixedbones4681 one the DNA of Palestinians shoes they are the same Levantine farmers that have always been there so, when it was Cannan they were Cannanite, they were then Jewish when the Romans expelled the Jews they became Christian then Muslim once the Arabs conquered the region. The Arabs only contribute 20% of the gnome so the original people weren't wiped out. They learnt Arabic and took on Arabic culture. The Arabic conquest didn't displace people they assimilated them.
Thank you, Benny Morris and the producers of this video. Given the existing historical record, there shouldn't have been a need to "set the record straight," but the false propaganda needs to be addressed. New York Times - *Are you paying attention?*
The British Mandate of Palestine 1918 was created as a homeland for the Jewish people returning to their ancestral home after 2000 years in exile.
There is no Arab tribe called Palestinians, they don't even have the letter P in their Alphabet.
Peleshtim is a Hebrew word, it was from David calling Goliath an enemy intruder ( Peleshtim )
Now can you see their name.
Palestina came from the Hebrew word. פולש. That mean invdar
@@yoavpeled-h2c I can assure you it is Peleshtim, even shows up in Bible codes. פלשח'מ
@@yoavpeled-h2c Could be plural of the same word
Explain me why isn't it allowed to make a DNA test in Israel? You would be punished while doing it, even with prison.
You can see also that the flag where writhe palestina AI have star of David and the colar is in white and blue and not red green and black.
One thing they leave out is the fact that while Hitler like their ideology, he didn’t like non-Arian people, and his plan was to do away with them also once he got to the Middle East. Hitler’s world was only ever going to be an a Arian populated world.
Hitler don't like all the sami, the jews and the Arabs. He just want to use them in the war against the English. After he used them than he can kill them or make them slave. In is book he wrote against all the sami race Arabs and jews
I didn't know Benny Morris is this young and beautiful!
76 Years old.
Her name is Claire boothe she is Australian
@@angusmcintyre2150 I am Finnish!
It was never Arab land. Gaza people originally came from Egypt. The Muslims in Judea and Sameria are there because Jordan would not allow all of them entry to the designated Palestine. The Nakba is the MO of those who committed last year. They’ll never want a state because the leaders won’t be able to pocket the billions. The people have absolutely no say. They hate so much all they want to do is hate.
That’s right how come the British are never mentioned in their part? What is still happening today. For those who don’t want to read, the Moses documentary is on Netflix and it’s a true story. Anyway, after what they did last year, there’s no cause or rights that they had ever again. They could’ve used protest to make their cause more known. What they did when far beyond hate. For instance I didn’t hate anybody till what happened last year and I know I could not do what they did. They are dangerous people and cannot be trusted or be friended ever ever again.
Inventing "facts" to suit the narrative
@@miraladak2314Why? What’s your facts?
Fast forwarding the story to the early 1900s , The Balfour declaration was evil. I cannot come to your property and sign a declaration with you so that you can share your house with me by taking over the bedrooms and kitchen, and giving you the lounge dining and garage, then explaining you how privileged and fortunate you are. NO !! you will walk away from the deal because you want the whole of your property that was inherited to you from your forefathers.
@planitdesigns6192 what rubbish, do your research properly.
@@miraladak2314 prove us wrong.
Very well compiled and presented. This highlights the fundamental problem of today’s world, facts do not matter.
Take them down in big bites:
1. What is a Palestinian?
2. If Jews are colonizers in Israel. Tell us what it makes Muslims in Europe?
3. Name a country that has saved more civilian lives than Israel?
1. Palestinians are form Palestine, like Israelis are from Israel.
2. There is no apartheid and military law impose by Muslims in Europe, but in West Bank there is by the settlers and the zionists government. Thats not what I say, many organizations and even ex IDF soldiers say it, search it up. Also why isn't it allowed to make a DNA test in Isreal? You can land in prison for doing it.
3. Who did Israel save? The only man that wanted peace between Israelis and Palestinians was Yitzhak Rabin, and he was assasinated by the zionists. Max Hastings interviewed Netanyahu in the 70s this is what he said at the dinner table, "if we get it right, we'll have a chance to get all the Arabs out. We can clear the West Bank and sort out Jerusalem." And this is what is happening right now and Netanyahu is leading it. He did also added something about the golani brigade, witch are mostly African Yemenite Jews. "They are ok, as long as they're lead by white officers. Go on tiktok and instagram and look up what is the "most moral" army in the world doing, these people are posting thier videos all over the internet, and they are not saving anyone, no civilians, they show how they destroy buildings and killing civilians and it all fit the points of genocide.
1. The people that have lived in the land known as Palestine for many generations.
2. Muslims don't rule over all Europeans, they just live there.
3. There are too many to name in a single comment
@@fiver4249
Not hearing one. Never was a country of Palestine.
Yes, Muslims do not respect their European hosts and want it turned into another failed Islamic stste.
@@fiver4249Give it time. The mayors of some of England's largest cities are Muslim. Dearborn Michigan has undergone huge changes.
@@usx06240 We're much more likely to find ourselves living under far right, right wing populist or fascist regimes in Europe than we are an Islamic theocracy. 1 or 2 Muslim mayors doesn't count as an occupation, they were elected.
Token Jews hating on Israel. This is heartbreaking.
You don't have to be a jew to hate Israel
@@shaunboots4075
The main reason for the hatred of Israel is that the State of Israel is an insult that is difficult for Muslims to bear...
@@foxisok Correct! For some 400 years under the Ottomans, Jews were "dhimmis" or second class citizens. When a bunch of homeless old Jewish refugees arrived fleeing pogroms in Eastern Europe, the Arabs' honor and sense of shame was destroyed.
@@foxisok I wish more people understood this. A land conquered by muslims is meant to belong to muslims forever. Some still talk about taking back Andalucia. The fundamentalists can't imagine accepting Israel, the insult is too great to bear.
“Token” Jews? Have you BEEN to New York City??
Stop making Israel’s crimes about Judaism. I’m a Jew. It doesn’t stop me from calling out injustice when I see it, even when it comes from the Knesset. There is much to hate about Netanyahu and his government, especially for those of us who value peace over religion.
The reason Jews all over America are being harassed right now is because of people like you claiming that Jews cannot be against the war. I don’t appreciate being associated with Netanyahu. Stop telling people my Judaism means that I do.
And I’m no token. There are many like me. I love the land of Israel, but I hate its oppressive government. That is not a contradiction.
This is a wonderful read, Zoe! Benny's a top-notch scholar!
Thank you for your great job !!!!! Thank you for telling the truth !!!! ❤❤❤
Your overview is missing two major issues. The necessity for partition in the first place was a direct result of the arab refusal to co-exist in one administrative framework. This motivated the riots of 1920, 1922 and 1929. A further important issue that you neglect is that the closure of Palestine to Jewish immigration in 1938 was a direct concession of the British to arab nationalism, as a result of the major arab revolt of 1936-38. This closure doomed European jews to destruction, leading to the establishment of militant Jewish organisations which attacked both the British as well as the arabs
Why should the indigenous Arabs cede land to European settler colonialists? Why should they be happy with a partition plan where they end up with less land than the minority Jewish population. And why must Palestinians pay the price for what Europeans did with their pogroms and the Holocaust?
Israel is not the issue,the real Jews are not from Europe,thanks to the Bible and a map Zionist bloodline will forever know the truth . Zionism is only 140 years old.
@@goldencalf5144 Indigenous Arabs all around the Mediterranean, I suppose. How do you think they got there except by settling new territory?
@@goldencalf5144 Arabs are NOT indigenous to Judea, they came from the Arab peninsula. just how many states to the Arabs want??
@@liberality Arabs have been around the Mediterranean and in the Levant for millenia. Anyway, what do you mean by Arabs? They aren't a monolith. The language of the Ancient Jews was Aramaic, which is derived from Arabic. And if you're talking about the Muslim conquests, they converted much of the local population to Islam rather than displacing them en masse.
A very good article.
The “naqba” was indeed a catastrophe for the Arabs but not for the reasons most believe. The attacking Arab armies told the Arab residents of the new State of Israel to leave while they would liquidate the newly created Israel and then they could all return. Unfortunately, or fortunately for the Jews Israel won the war and the Arab armies were routed. Thus, they were unable to keep their promise. This is the catastrophe, the naqba that they talk about.
The Deir Yassin massacre wasn't portrayed by the Arabs but by the Israeli paramilitary.
The assassination of Folke Bernadotte, the UN mediator for Peace in the Middle East, wasn't portrayed by the Arabs but by the Israeli paramilitary.
The ethnic cleansing of Israel isn't portrayed by the Arabs but by the "Jewish" settlers.
The assassination of Rachel Corrie who was smashed under a buldozzer while defending a Palestinian village with her own body, wasn't portrayed by the Arabs but by the IDF.
The attacks against the Armenian Patriarchate which happen right now in East Jerusalem in order to make East Jerusalem a predominaly Jewish city, aren't portrayed by the Arabs but by armed settlers with the help of the Israeli police.
The Naqba never ended.
"Remember Amalek" said Mr. Netanyahu. We all know what happened to the Amalek.
@@AndMakrid you're a very good narc! 🤣😂🤣
And where does it say that people fleeing fighting can't return to their homes once the fighting is over? Even if the "their leaders told them to flee" story is doubtful at best? BS doesn't take sides in this debate. Plenty of it to go around.
@@1brewski2 No, story is true. You don’t want to accept it.
If people want to accept the new status quo they would be free to return. Problem with the Arabs is they never were prepared to accept the new status quo. Always believing that they could, at some future time steal the land back.
@@1brewski2 I think you missed the point, it was the Arab leaders who told them they could return. They didn’t want to return to the new state of Israel, the first legitimate nation state in the land for over 1900 years.
Keep spreading the truth.
In February 1941, 88% of the Arab Palestinians polled expressed support for Germany, while only 9% supported England
Not Just The Mufti - the real extension of the Palestinian-NAZl collaboration
When HitIer proclaimed the Nuremberg Race Laws in September 1935, a number of Palestinian Arabs sent telegrams congratulating him:
“Delegations from the Arab world participated in the Nuremberg marches of the NAZlS, during the 1930s, and expressed their common disgust toward the Jews and their joint accusations of the Jews… Upon the publication of the racist Nuremberg Laws in 1935, HitIer received greetings from the entire Arab world, from Morocco to Palestine,
Obviously it was Arab countries who started the 1948 war. They fried the first shots. As soon as Israel declared its independence, the Egyptian air force started bombing Tel Aviv. A situation doesn't become a WAR until someone starts attacking someone with weapons. I know the Hamas supporters will try to say that Zionists started the war, but how could this be supported by any reasons? Simply living in a place doesn't constitute war. The arrival of Jewish settlers cannot be called an invasion or act of war, because those settlers didn't attack anyone when they moved in. They didn't arrive firing guns or dropping bombs. They first Jewish settlers at the beginning of the Zionist movement bought the land they moved onto. This was real estate purchase, not theft., and it certainly wasn't violence. If you buy a piece a land, you having stolen anything. The United States bought Alaska from Russia in 1867. There is a least one Russian politician who claims that Alaska still rightfully belongs to Russia. Alaska isn't physically connected to the rest of the continental U. S. but that doesn't mean it's not part of the sovereign territory of the U. S.
This should definitely be published in the New York Times as a counterargument.
Good luck with that.
A lot of people also do not realize that the only Arab army that did well in 1948 was the Jordanian army of king Abdullah I. It was led and significantly helped by BRITISH military officers. The British government just wanted to insure its access to Saudi oil.
British intelligence was also behind the army that was organized by the Arab league that was headed by an Iraqi officer, it was the first army to invade.
Jesus, like all the indigenous people of Israel, was a Jew 650 years before the colonizing Arab armies arrived. Jordan is the solution to the Palestinian question.
1970 Black September
Thank you. I wish this was seen more in the mainstream. Sadly, the anti-Jewish sentiment is widespread both in the West and among Muslims.
Well done - it is critical the facts form the basis of the ongoing conflict. Above all a desire for peaceful, sustainable coexistence on both sides is the critical ingredient for peace.
While Israel has demonstrate its willingness to reach a peace agreement, successive Palestinian leaderships have been unable to reach agreement on that point. Instead they have elected to pursue opposition to the right of Israel to exist and, in the case of HAMAS and other Islamist terror groups, are committed to its destruction and the ethnic cleansing of non-Muslims from Palestine. Further, HAMAS prohibits peace talks with Israel or other nations altogether.
Israel is not the issue,the real Jews are not from Europe,thanks to the Bible and a map Zionist bloodline will forever know the truth . Zionism is only 140 years old.
Hey god said he wants me to have all your stuff.. but I will settle for like 80%... when can I collect?
Britain never had the right to divide up G-d’s land ghat was the indigenous Jewish homeland. They’ve been doing act over 7 for so many years.
While you’re reading what apparently happened, some of us have stories from the people who were actually there at that time. So unfortunately you are leaving things out, but you can only read what you’ve been given.
Many Israelis joined the British army to fight the Nazis. My father was one of them. I don’t think the Arabs joined the British Army. I’ll have to check all my photos.
Most of the Arabs palestinian support germany in second world war. They always take the wrong side
There were arabs fighting, "shoulder to shoulder" as they say, with Jews in the British army during WWII in the same battalion There is photographic evidence of this. That is why I do not understand the hatred in 1948. While the Arab League supported nazi Germany because of their jewish programme and again incited hatred in 1948.
Heard of Lawrence of Arabia? The one who heroically convinced Arabs to turn against their Ottoman rulers, i.e. to help the Allies in WWI, in exchange for promises of supporting Arab self-determination after WWI? Of course he didn't mention the Balfour declaration, by which Britain had already promised land that wasn't even theirs to the Zionists.
Thumbs up. I really, really appreciate the presentation of facts that run counter to the anti-Israeli / anti-Semitic narratives about Nakba. Lots of information. My only negative comment is that you sound like you're just reading text and for the first time. I know you're trying to be accurate and I can't criticize for you that.
There seems to be very little inflection or emotion in your voice making the presentation especially difficult for people with short attention spans. I know your heart and mind are in the right place but like you, I would like to see such videos be watched by as many people as possible.
This all said, may I suggest in the text going forward you include some parts where you may express your own personal opinion about certain points, let yourself speak more emphatically and help people make a better connection with you by telling us how you feel about the topics. eg: "It really frustrates me when I hear it said that..."
Israel is better just being Israel.
Israel was a huge mistake
Israel is not the issue,the real Jews are not from Europe,thanks to the Bible and a map Zionist bloodline will forever know the truth . Zionism is only 140 years old.
In a groundbreaking collaborative study led by experts from the University of Oxford, the University of Michigan, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), there has been no conclusive evidence found to substantiate the existence of Judea. Despite exhaustive research spanning various disciplines including archaeology, history, and art history, the team reported a notable absence of artifacts, art, pottery, or any definitive historical records directly linking to the purported region of Judea. This revelation challenges long-standing historical narratives and prompts a reevaluation of our understanding of this ancient area.
@@newdude1258 Hey look it's the copy paste guy posting AI made up horseshit. Any ground breaking studys you'd like to post about the earth being flat?
@@stab74 🤣 nice
What about some reserch about god? About Jesus and Muhamad? What about the history of America?
And history of humans, whos from where? What kind of refugees do this planet has?
I can add a little to the "were the Arabs ordered to leave" question. My GFather was a British Intelligence officer in Jerusalem after WWII (think sitting in a windowless office, with earphones for 8 hours listening to radio broadcasts, recording and transcribing into English, NOT James Bond), after he passed I was tasked with sorting though his military memorabilia, and journals. In his journals, describes a storm that is rising because the Arab/Muslim residents are being told to leave so the massed Arab Armies can wipe out the Jews without harming the Arabs, and they'd be repaid with Jewish lands. This message was on written pamphlets, posters, radio broadcasts, and spoken by the leaders in Mosque. He wrote of the political (I think he meant propaganda) battle being lost by the Jews who were appealing to the Arab population to remain, become citizens with full rights, those who left would not be given right of return. The Arabs are angry because the massed Arab armies lost against a much weaker army they should have crushed, and the world expected to crush, and the Israelis kept their word, and now the most free, educated, wealthy, healthy Arab/Muslim population in the world are Israeli citizens.
The last part is just utterly false. You literally have countries like Saudi or Indonesia. And in Israel Arabs are barred to buy any land in like 80% of the country.
Also, after the Nakba, they asked the people from the 200 villages and towns on why they run away, and something like 8 of them cited 'Arab order' as *one* of the major reason.
@@mochithepooh5368 What I said about the Arab/Muslim population being healthiest in the world is not my opinion, but fact according to the UN measured by a dozen different metrics. That includes Indonesia. If you've been to Saudi, which from what you say is doubtful, you'd realize that the wealthiest 1% are healthy, NOT the majority who live in third world conditions.
Next point i'm not sure if you are just ignorant or deliberately lying, but no non-Israeli citizen can buy land, Arab/Israelis do own land, and continue to buy land.
Lastly, those 192 villages heard and read the orders from the Arab League, they were not insulated, they responded just as they all did, and abided by taqqiya when answering. Only 8 had the courage to tell the truth.
@@ajak4262 I'm sorry but I can't find the UN data on this. Did you mean the Globah Health Index? I saw that Israel overall is in 6th, but if you look specifically at non-Jews, then the number is much lower.
I mean Israeli Arabs, Arabs(Palestinians) who have Israeli citizenship, they aren't allowed to buy land in 80% of the country. Also love how you tries counter data with opinion.
@@mochithepooh5368 I did not mean Global Health index, but it is similar and shows exactly what I said, even when you conflate Arab/Israeli citizens with non citizens. You are being extremely disingenuous, if not outright lying, as I believe you know that NO ISRAELI citizen Jewish or Muslim can purchase state owned land which amounts to 80% of Israel. It was NOT my opinion that 192 villages had heard the multiply issued orders over multiple methods and media just like the 8 villages that reported they left because of an Arab order. It is also not my opinion, but an observation from two visits to Gaza and Israel that Gazans consistently when discussing Israel. Ive written about specific incidents over other videos, I will provide you with the incidents I was a part of if you wish.
@@ajak4262 I. Never. Talk. About. Non citizen. I'm talking about Arab population who never left during the Nakba and remain in Israel and were granted Israeli citizenships. Jewish citizens can buy(or to use the right word, long term lease) state land, which Arab citizens can't do.
Also I said "one of MAJOR reason". Someone can hear the evacuation order but don't think it's a major reason because bullets are literally flying over your head.
Truth and accuracy? Italian Americans in New York were not offered a state; Poles in Chicago were not offered a state.
Thank you for standing up to propaganda
This entire video is propaganda 😂
@@thestruggleisallthatmatter8833 k where is the lies?
This is 'Palestine': "We'd never heard of the word or 'ethnicity' prior to 1918" Said EVERY Arab EVER from 63AD to 1918.
Palestinian wasn't even widely used until 1967. They became Jordanian citizens in 1948. Jordan lost the West Bank when they invaded Israel in 1967. In the Early 1970's they expelled them all. It was really Arafat that made the term popular.
The process of appropriating the title Palestinians by Arabs has started in 1966.
"Palestine" has been an "area", but never a self-ruling country.
@@billkallas1762 Who identified as Palestinian Pre-1918? (Hint I know the answer)
@@jknowstheway1462 Before the end of WWI, the Palestine area was OWNED by the Ottoman Empire. All people who lived there were citizens of the Empire.
Thanks
They shou.d play this on a large screen on a continuous loop opposite of every pro-hamas campus protest.
THank you for this. Benny Morris needs more exposure.
100% the best video on RUclips about "the Nakba", thank you Zoe Booth, you're a breath of fresh air amongst all the hot air
I watched clips of this American man I believe who has a content on RUclips asking Palestinians/Israelis questions. I watched few of his videos & it’s very clear that most Palestinians don’t want to accept Israel as a state even if they had 20% of the land back then, for 70 years palestinians have been told by there families that there native to the whole region but aren’t aware Jews have been living in that region for centuries, in fact were the first people to exist in that region
Thats not truth, there were Jews yes, but mostly it was populated by Arabs/Palestinians. If you are talking about the Israelis from the far past? They wasn't there first, there were other people and tribes before them, like the important ones, the Canaanites and the Israelis wiped them out. Genetically Palestinians have more native genes then the Israelis, thats why it's not allowed for a Isreali in Israel to do a DNA test, they get punished for doing it and they can even land in prison. That's not what i just say, thats what the zionist government says, search it up.
He is Canadian I think.
The Ask Project
Important, concise and utterly correct.
Well done, thank you
This is a side fact, but as a Pole I just wanted to add that Poland, until the last days before the outbreak of WWII, sent military aid and military-trained volunteers to Jews fighting for independence, even though we ourselves were in a tragic situation. It is worth remembering this.
Here's another side fact.
Jews were attacked by poles in 1946
great perspective on this complex topic
It is actually quite simple: the indigenous people of the land being continually ethnically cleansed, murdered and treated as less than human by the people who took over their land
"The Palestinian people do not exist. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are part of one people, the Arab nation. Lo and behold, I have relatives with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are one people. It is only for political reasons that we carefully endorse our Palestinian identity. Indeed, it is of national interest for the Arabs to encourage the existence of the Palestinians in the face of Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new means to continue the struggle against Israel and for Arab unity." - Zuheir Mohsen, leader of the Ba'athist As-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979.
Excellent summary. Will challenge the majority of people who have TikTok attention spans to listen and absorb the information you so articulately explain.
There has hardly been any story told about Palestine by Arabs that was ever true. The taqqiyya principle in operation?
The defeat of the Ottoman Empire in WWI resulted in the 1920 San Remo Conference of 1920, which resolved to grant mandatory control of the Levant, including Palestine, to Britain and France.
The conference specifically resolved that "...the Mandate for Palestine will be responsible for carrying out the Balfour Declaration, working for the establishment of the Jewish national home without prejudice to the rights of existing non-Jewish communities.
When you dig for archaeology in Israel, the antiquities some thousands of years old, are in Hebrew - the language of the Jews.
Very informative and eye opening
Why do Arabs Identify as Emperor Hadrian Romans? Makes as much sense as the Chewbacca Defense
Great work. Once upon a time I had a book, Genesis 1948 and currently I have The Arab-Israeli Wars: War and Peace in the Middle East by Chaim Herzog.
From the river to the sea,
Israel shall be free,
From the mohammedan scourge
He demanded your foundation stone to be out of garbage cleaned and preserve and for you to worship freely there . 😂 with he is beautiful allies jewish arab tribes . 😊
from the river to the sea the pagers are the last thing Hezbollah did see.
It is not surprising that Palestinian Arabs were less committed to taking part in WWII than Palestinian Jews. The former had no dog in the fight. The latter very much did. Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews served in mixed units on the first half of the war, neither in combat roles. Only in the second half of the war were Palestinian Jews allowed to form their own infantry brigade, which served some months in Italy. This gave them a massive advantage in military experience over Palestinian Arabs in 1948.
The video does not say it's 'surprising'. It sheds light on misleading claims of Palestinians fighting against Nazism.
@@angusgus123 It is certainly the case that 12,000 Palestinian Arabs served in British uniform. It was the British who did not form them into combat units. It was the same with Palestinian Jews until mid war. Only then did the British raise the Jewish Brigade, but not an equivalent Arab Brigade.
Interestingly, those who claim that the Mandate Arabs got an Arab state in Transjordan seem to forget that Transjordan's Arab Legion was fighting the Axis years before the Jewish Brigade.
The Arabs of the Middle East were very much committed to fighting in WW2. 7,300 were recruited in Syria and Iraq and 1,300 from Palestine by the Mufti Al-Husseini for the Nazis. They formed the SS Free Arabia Legion and were transported to Germany occupied Greece, disembarked at Cap Sounion. Then they fought in Greece and the Balkans, along other Muslims the Mufti had recruited in the Balkans, with a fat German salary that was 5 times the income of a Wehrmacht general. Some of the Bosnian Nazis emigrated to Palestine where they fought against the Jews after the war.
History has consequences.
@@cgsather3309 What a load of half-truths and downright falsehoods!
The Arab unit raised by Germany in the Balkans originally came from Palestinian pioneer companies raised by the British but abandoned by them on a beach in the Peloponnese in late April 1941. They were thus easy prey for the Mufti.
I would like to know more about their "fat German salary that was 5 times the income of a Wehrmacht general." What have you got? My bet is nothing.
Oh, and can we have a primary source for the Bosnian emigrants to Palestine? (I am not holding my breath on this one, either!)
@@angusgus123 The made-up 'Palestinians', i.e. Arabs who lived in that region were on the side of the Nazis, see: Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
Thank you for bringing this to light.
Islam is not religion of peace and it is extremely important to hold this mirror and speak up the truth behind the movement that for decades oppresses Palestinian people from inside.
this was very enlightening - thank you for posting
100% truth
Excellent vid, thanks.
You forgot to mention 2 important points:
a) by late December 1947, arab forces laid siege to Jewish Jerusalem putting its 100,000 Jewish inhabitants on the brink of starvation.. a siege that wasn’t lifted until Haganah went on the offensive in mid March 1948
b) British not only supplied transjordanian troops, they also trained them and have had British officers command units of Arab legion in their war against nascent Jewish state
Who can get this into the popular news media. It should be transcibed in every major news outlet. Thank you, Benny
You should research the War on the Jewish Villages of the 1920's where multiple villages were attacked and depopulated by marauding Arab gangs - which created a debt of justice, restitution and retribution, collected in 1948.
This history of the 1948 war in Palestine is disputed. A completely different version is to be found in "The Hundred Years' War on Palestine," by Rashid Khalidi, 2020.
His book is just another propaganda for the Palestinian cause.
No mention of Palestinians in the Quran even. Islam is younger than the land that was called Palestine by the Romans 2000 years ago.
How can it be that the religion that was born in the middle east, during the time of that land being called Palestine, no mention at all of the land or the people being called Palestinians?
In no books or historical references, there's a mention of Palestinians until the middle of the 20th century.
Only around the 20s you have a first mention of some sort of a start of some idea of Palestinians being only Arabs (until then all Palestinians were anyone who lived under the rule of thar period, Ottomans or British mandate, including Jews were Palestinians as that was the name of the land. So it wasn't an Arab identity of an ethnic group).
And you actually have Palestinian leaders in the 60s and 70s saying (in arabic, and you can find the quotes in the comment section here) saying that their Palestinian identity is just a way to promote grabbing of the land and the moment they will destroy Israel, they will connect to Lebanon/Jordan, because there's no real difference between them and the so called Palestinians.
"Palestinians" is a false narrative that became a reality today. They weren't planning on this to go for so long. Now of course they already have an actual national or ethnical identity, which is fine. Time creates different cultures and people. But they weren't a people 100 years ago or even 80 years ago. And of course they never had a state.
Palestinians don't have a history as a people before the 20th century.
Consider the source
@@Ratryggva1090 Zionist propaganda has a source, too. Thousands and thousands of people were dispossessed of their homes, businesses, schools, farms, and communtiy infrastructuue without any legal justification and based only on the zionist philosophy that only people of the correct ethnicity were entitled to possession. Very similar to Germany's lebensraum program.
If you want to know the true read historian like Martin Hughes from burnel University. I see pogrom in the israeli TV called the Mandate. In this pogrom all the professors the israeli proffer the Palestinian professor the Arab israeli professor and professors from England, they all agree on most of the evident. The only think they not 200% agree is that in the Paris peace conference in January 1919 the jews israeli professor say that they agree to a Jewish state and the Arab israeli professor say that they mean to otonomia that be included in the big Arabs state.
In the Mandate program all the professors say that britain created the borders and created the syria jordan irak and created many conflicts.
Amazing video, finally a youtuber with deep knowledge
Fascinating video!
Very well researched and documented
Wow wow wow. What a great video of your’s, as an Israeli Jewish person I feel like I must thank you. This video was amazing and it was very well researched. It was so well researched that even I as an Israeli 15 years old citizen didn’t know everything ( for the record my knowledge is quite deep in the subject). I think the only thing I can say is I salute you. In those times when all of the antisemitism and Palestinian propaganda are increasing, it’s very hard for us the Jews and too see youngsters like you speaking like that instead of being influenced by social pressure and go too the big universities and protest for the complete erase of Israel is making me have a little more hope and be happier. Thank you so much ❤
Gd bless Israel !
Only the Chinese Communists Party can deal with these Palestinians and keep them behave quietly.
Such racist comments here.
@@chezbh They are all like that, they just hide under ther victim flag and their propaganda.
@@chezbhwhy is it racist?
@@chezbhToo bad for you!
"Palestinian " are just " jewish" who speaks Arabic and are muslim and yeah "jewish" are just monotheistic egyptian 😂
very well presented
Tell It Like It Is, Sister.
A truth telling video
A great video !
Only that in 48' there was no "Palestinian/Jewish" conflict.
It was a "Jewish/Arab" conflict ,because in 48' the idea of an indigenous distinct "Palestinian" people was not yet conceived by the soviets
oh the soviets made up the palestinians now? what have you been drinking son?
I saw comments from what seemed knowledgeable people, apart from one thing. That comment said "...why do you think Israel gets bigger every year..." . Does Israel get bigger, as in its borders expand, every year? I'm not aware it does, but...?
Maybe not every year, but it got bigger after the first war, then a second time in 1967 although there was never a formal annexation of the occupied territories, there were illegal settlements done to create a reality on the ground. Currently they seem to have decided to annex Gaza as well, although it's not yet official.
How is this possible if israel gave away the sinai peninsula ? It is 3 times larger then israel...
Maybe they are not knowledgable ?
😂 they don't
It doesn't. Israel withdrew from some of their land and gave it to Palestine in exchange for peace. However, Palestine then voted Hamas in and immediately started firing rockets and sending suicide bombers into Israel, killing many civilians as in the hotel bombing! Palestine do not want peace, they want tye genocide of Isrsel and to have the whoke of their land as well which is the real meaning of the From the river ..chants which they lie about!
It’s borders don’t expand, but its settlements do. The land that would be the future Palestinian state is being slowly settled by Jewish settlers, and they are doing this on purpose so that negotiation will become a moot point.
Look at a map showing where Jews live over the years, and you will see the expansion of Jewish settlements. There is a good article about it you could search for, called “The growth of Israeli settlements, explained in 5 charts.”
You might argue that settling land is innocent, except that they are not secretive about their motives. Their purpose is not merely to find new homes, but to settle themselves on Palestinian-claimed land so that it can never become part of a Palestinian state.
I’m a Jew. No anti-Jewish bias here. The expansion of Jewish settlements for the purpose of dispossessing Arabs is disgusting.
I once heard an Arab phrase it well: “It’s like we’re negotiating over a cake, but while we’re negotiating, you’re eating the cake!”
Yes, it’s true, their negotiators have not always acted in good faith, but the principal stands. If you’re eating the cake with the intent to make negotiation moot, then you’re not acting in good faith either.
I think this is probably what the commentor meant. There’s a principle that we should interpret the comments of others charitably, in the way that makes them seem as rational as possible. If you try to make the comment “Israel is growing” sound rational, it isn’t very hard. Pointing out that the borders don’t move very frequently is attacking a strawman; there are other ways to define growth.
During the twentieth century there were population exchanges in many conflict in the world. See that between Greece and Turkey see between India and Pakistan, see between German and poles. Only in one case they want to own the problem and founded a unique organization just for the Palestinian refugees, likewise, they changed the definition of a refugee in the case of the Palestinian and determind that even someone who was in the territory of Israel two years before the war is considered a refugee. Why need special agency for the Palestinian? And why change the refugee definition only in the case of the Palestinian?
I am sick of the Israeli's getting blamed for this latest outbreak of violence. How soon we forget what was done to them. If you want to fight, then be a man and stand your ground. Don't hide behind old men, women and children. I know that not all Palestinians are bad, since some do live in peace with Israel, why can't the rest of them do the same. Considering they are cousins; it breaks my heart that they still fight amongst themselves.