Homemade Ketchup With A FISHY Twist w/
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- We're making ancient KETCHUP (garum) from scratch using FISH GUTS! Yeah, you heard that right. You'll want to stick around for this one, if you can handle the smell...
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Thank you for having me on! Glad it turned out well.... enough 🤣
This seems similar to Worcestershire sauce! Great video!
What you need to remember is that sauces like this were not intended as flavor additive like our condiments today are. Typically by the time people got around to eating most foods like meats they had either been heavily salted or were sightly past their prime age. Thus stronger sauces were needed not to enhance the flavor, but to mask it. Thank heaven for modern tech that prevents us from needing to deal with these issues in our lives anymore
@@gracieshepardtothemax1743 It's a good point. I wonder how well it would work for making Caesar dressing. Caesar dressing (created by an Italian immigrant living in the US to be served in a restaurant in Tijuana) does include Worcestershire sauce and anchovies. Worcestershire sauce is a fish sauce used similarly for its umami/salty properties. If there's still a few samples of it, I'd say it'd be interesting to try and make a Caesar dressing with it instead of using Worcestershire and compare the results for the modern palette. I also wouldn't mind the possibility of using it for other fish sauce heavy dishes common in East/Southeast Asia.
I can smell the fish stink through the screen
So glad you did this! And you didn’t poison anyone.... right? Thank you for having me on.
I love your work!!!
@@williamw.2610 thank you 😊
Your channel is so great. You really deserve more subscribers.
@@christiangarry7659 that’s very kind of you to say. Honestly, after just starting in the spring, I’m shocked at how many people are watching! No complaints here. 😁
@@TastingHistory Your charisma is what makes your videos great :) I was hooked from the first episode I watched
There's a Bronze Age ghost watching someone make a spoon out of this extremely expensive metal in either awe or extreme frustration.
"Ahh dammit that would have cost an entire silver talent (or is it talon?) in my day!"
-Roman dude
LOL, anyway I would actually like a full set of Modern Expertise made Hardened Bronze Flatware.
Fun fact - Worcestershire Sauce is basically garum with a few slightly different spices added and the process... sanitized a bit.
interesting! Especially since you are also supposed to use only a few drops of Worcestershire Sauce
@@JigJagging only a few drops?! i pour that shit everywhere
@@JigJagging there's no such thing as only a few drops of worcestershire sauce. Shoot, that's a good portion of my marinade.
@@amb1u5 cantonese beef balls dimsum, i drown it in worcestershire sauce... just had some 30 minutes ago
Y'all are making me hungry in this comment thread!
Let it be known the man just said
“Fell out of Flavor”
Scrolled down just to find this comment.
Journalistic integrity demands I document the time stamp at 0:55
As soon as I saw this I was like “they should talk to tasting history about this” and sure enough you did. Awesome.
Immediately had the same thought, nice.
It’s in the title
Indeed
Same
In South Italy we still make garum, from sardines actually, there is a whole festival about it, it's called "Colatura d'Alici".
That's the main thing, your garum flavor depends entirely on the fish you use
Also in Asian cuisine they still make and use a few Sauces made from fermented seafood. Oyster Sauce, Fish Sauce, and a couple others I forget the names of.
I like how Lauren just casually is like "I need a spoon" and just casts her own cutlery like a boss
And a pitchfork 😁
Such freedom!
it's nice to see how lauren went from "what the heck am i even doing in this crazy workplace?" to casually casting a spoon to stir her rotting fish with
Damn she even has them crocks in 4 wheel drive while fishing
You know I don’t mess around
@@laurenapolis Legend
Damnnnnnn
@@laurenapolis lock & load
My Latin teacher in high school had a jar of garum in his room, and it was rusted shut, so we couldn’t open it even if we wanted to
Did you want to?
Good! It shouldn't be ever opened again, for there is the curse of the smelly fish inside.
@@hithere-oi8vu Not really. It would not have been a fun month if we did.
Covid-20 is inside that bottle, KEEP IT SHUT AT ALL COSTS
feel lucky, if it was rusted shut when you were there eventually some class got to experience a rusted hole.
HTME, Tasting History, and Townsends are in the same email circle.
The possibilities are endless!
*THE NUTMEG IS ENDLESS*
Perhaps also English Heritage Aka The Victorian Way? Though hey have crossed over with the Townsends already, so maybe not.
"I need to make a spoon"
....proceeds to craft a spoon from scratch 😎
I mean, you're kind of just dipping a french fry in fish sauce, I'm not sure what you were expecting. You'd probably have the same experience if you dunked it in worchesht-.... wurchest-...... that sauce the brits named weird just to screw with people.
Always amazes me how tongue-twisted our cousins from across the pond get with this word! It's wuss-tuh-shuh, or even just wuss-tuh sauce. Easy!
It's "worst chest in the shire" sauce
@stockart whiteman but even people with rhotic accents don't pronounce the first r in Worcester. It'd be wuss-stir. You need to forget about how it's spelt!
"wuster sure" sauce
@@JuniperBoy In New England we have no problem with it! You guys came over here and named all of our towns after your cities, so we also have a Worcester in Massachusetts.
I love how she can make a dead fish look cute. That said, what about mushroom ketchup? Might have to ask Townsends about that.
You think I'm cute? 🥺
Psilocybin mushroom ketchup?
@@f1shb0nes72 With those sunglasses, you could be on Dancing With the Stars!
She just casually invented a fork...
Centuries before it came into common use no less.
A pitchfork, A goddamned pitchfork 😂😂
I loved how you just casually cast utensils, like it was no big. really shows haw far you guys have come!
"Hetero Life Mate"
I need to start using that, it's such a good name XD
Ikr?
Im awaiting for the day that they reach out to Townsends
Gonna be a few centuries, but I do look forward to it.
The mushroom ketchup is gonna be awesome
They're still in the bce's. So, a couple of millenniums to go
I'm so glad you said this.
Two of my favorite channels together at last.
The Chinese characters at 1:01~ literally translates to “salmon juice”... Yeah...
"business goose"
@@TheUnamedPerson ketchup is nothing this fish thingy
actually, it most likely does not mean salmon. salmon is a north pacific/atlantic fish while original fish sauce came from tropics/sub-tropics. it's possible 鮭 could mean a number of different fish back then (including pufferfish, as it was mentioned the liver could kill if eaten 故人食鮭肝而死), or could be a more generic term for fish trash(bones, fins, skin, guts) before modern science repurposed that character for the salmon family while trout got the 鱒 character.
@@imasimp4243 fish sauce(SE Asia, many centuries prior to 1700's) -> mushroom ketchup(UK, 1700's) -> tomato ketchup(US, 1800's). that's the evolution of the word and the sauce it represents.
6:38 THE GOGGLES, THEY DO NOTHING
Garum! Tasting History did a great video on this. Also, at some point you should try making mushroom ketchup (a later invention that was popular in early America). Townsends did an old video on it.
lol and then I get to that point in the video
The mushroom ketchup is actually tasty! Definitely worth a go!
I would punch my mom for some mushroom ketchup right now
LOL I just said the same thing! We're all on the same page!
they still sell mushroom ketchup in the UK. can google "geo watkins mushroom ketchup"
sunfish arent normally eaten i would suggest trying with bass or trout for local species or mediterrian , i also suspect it would be prepared from severial species probably whatever wasnt sold at the market before it smelled too much to be sold for dinner. it would be a more accurate product i feel and who knows for shure now possibly a qompletely different more plesant taste. thanks for the videos
(like saltwater species, like herring, sardines, mackerel... any tropical/subtropical baitfish)
And it really would have benefited from more straining. The little bottle they got showed plenty of sedimentation. They should have filtered it with a coffee filter or something after the initial cheesecloth.
I watched a older video about it before and they said fatty/oily fishes work the best
@@goobdoober2537 But those are usually salt water fish like herring, mackerel and sardines I also really like those fishes smoked that really brings out te flavour
@@matthiasvanhecke1283 plus in Italy the modern descendant of garum uses just sardines. Would like to see an attempt like that sometime
When I saw that title, I was like "They better have talked to Max about this!" and you did!
So happy, man does some great work, more people need to see him!!!
Lauren: "So the salt did keep it from putrefying which is good, that's what we wanted, but..."
My brain: "... at what cost??"
I love how Max had the Magikarp on the background even for a video call :D
Also really nice to see just how used to copper/bronze casting y'all have gotten! "I need a spoon" (immediately goes to cast it)
Especially since Magikarp may have taken some inspiration (as far as it being "useless" and mostly inedible) from the ocean sunfish, which I assume from the name has some relation to the sunfish these guys were catching and using.
Always nice to see Lauren, her humor is really enjoyable
I will say even modern fishsauce is really freaking strong and is really best as a booster for other flavors so I'm not suprised it turned out that way.
It seems to me that ancient Roman cooking, especially upper-class cooking, is more about strong flavors than good flavors. If you ever read Apicius, the herb/spice combinations get pretty insane, and a lot of it doesn't sound good at all. I think the popularity of garum is just one more sign of that. As for it being better with other flavors, that reminds me of how fish sauce is actually used in modern Thai and Vietnamese cooking: it's just one of many flavors blended together to make a curry, soup, dressing, or sauce.
Probably to show off how much money they can waste on spices, I'd guess...
@@kaitlyn__L That was my thought, given Apicius is an upper-class cookbook. I figure the lower classes want what the upper classes have, so relatively cheap strong flavors like garum and fennel were really in vogue.
@@tildessmoo fennel I can tolerate, (or even enjoy in its place like in a Cumberland sausage), but rosemary? blech. overpowers EVERYTHINGGGGG. but then I cover everything (not literally) in brown sauce and add tons of Worcestershire sauce to everything savory I cook (yes literally), so I definitely am guilty of going for strength and complexity of flavours over allowing simple flavours to stand on their own. many friends have said "you're really good at seasoning, but.. sometimes I just want salt and pepper" or similar many times, lol. But I like to think I do a better job at making those flavours work together, and there's plenty which I'll NEVER mix.
i have made fish sauce myself a few times. and the type of fish really defines the flavour.
Fish sauce is supposed to give, for the most part, an umami flavor to the dish. So it is supposed to be used in conjuncion with many other ingredients as well, not straight up with noodles. Maybe it would have tasted more enjoyable doing it the other way.
Greeks: If it doesn't smell like my husband holly bath water, among his very, very few showers per month after fighting the Romans, it's not something of top premium quality for the enjoyment of the gods...
Ahh, when TastingHistory was at 8k Subscribers and I was wondering about all the wonderful collabs he would do... I think I remember him answering a comment of mine about collabs saying he thought it would be a long time before he'd get there- it's just so so nice to see
0:57 fell out fLavor he says 😂
11:23 Lauren will make a good hand model. The ones people usually hire for packaged foods. It's a big industry. You could try.
So, Garam means salt in Indonesian
So i was a little bit confused hearing that word as a "Sauce"
fun fact, the word "sauce" comes from "salus", which once again, means salt.
salt sauce damn
I’m actually so stoked for this collab!!!!!!!
Two of my favorite channels collaborating??? This is freaking awesome!
The freshly covered fish in salt look like super high quality marshmallows. Why does my brain have to think like that?
I can smell it through the screen
"Timberwolves 32"
Is what's written on Lauren's t-shirt, if anyone's interested
I'm so glad to see this collab! Awesome!
The Noma Guide To Fermentation book has lots of modern garum recipes that sound really good!
It has been WAY too long since I’ve heard someone refer to their hetero-lifemate
What does that even mean?
@@karstenkunneman5219 they are life mates. And heterosexual.
@@karstenkunneman5219 the only way I’ve every seen it used is pretty much the same as “gal pals”, aka “look at those two very good same-sex friends, they even are roommates! And say that they would die for each other! And say they they love each other more than anything! Such good friends :)” I’ve heard it used in reference to Achilles and Patroclus. It could also be used completely unironically (or doubly ironically?) I guess too
The last time I heard the term was in the context of Achilles and Patroclus.
Haha, as soon as I saw the title I thought back to middle school latin: Garum!
"Tastes like a dirty fridge"
How did she know what that tastes like?
I would love to see more collabs between Tasting History and HTME, their channels align perfectly.
That jay and silent bob referance was on point
Lauren, you are a joy to watch, and obviously very handy!
That silliness with the fish was hilarious.
Making mustard is super easy, only vinegar, water and the seeds
The gas is even easier
Yea the gas was extremely popular during round about the 1930s
Nice to see my hometown folks collabing with Max.
Cooollllll! Both How to Make Everything AND Tasting History. Awesome Collab.
1:47 voice of that man is... beautiful
That’s my dad!
@@laurenapolis he has a cool voice
, also i love your content
Looks so beautiful when ur crushing the fish and when you do the small time-lapse of the fish fermenting or something
Romans probably made garum mostly from sea fish. I wonder if it makes a significant difference, since saltwater fish tastes very differently from freshwater fish.
I guess it's been a while since I've seen one of these videos. I didn't know there are new people on this channel now. Good to see it growing!
Garum: one finger salt on the bottom of the container, one finger fresh herbs, one finger fish, two fingers salt, one finger herbs, one finger fish, two fingers salt and repeat to the top and cap off with a finger of salt unless theropod layer is already salt. Cap loosely and leave in the sun in summer for a month untouched. Then open, mash, ignore for three days, and filter. It is like a perfume essence oil: dilute it to be useable.
I always wonder how people found these kinds of Recipes... like who the hell thought that salt and rotting fish would taste good, on anything
try not eating anything for a week
Probably from the bottom of vessels they salted fish in to preserve it.
there's knowledge that salting food makes it last longer since like a whole lot of time ago; at some point someone musts have dared someone else to taste the residual gunk and they decided it was tasty =P
@iWi Studios: No refrigeration so things high in acetic acid (vinegar) or salt were common. The asians rule this catagory. I've also used fermented black beans, fermented shrimp paste... they ferment anything, Cabbage. The smell is often horrible but the items used amongst other cooking is really good.
@@johnpossum556 very interesting...
OMG my two fave youtubers collaborating and it's not even Christmas!
bringing out the MN public school mini corndogs for this one I see
One of the better choices.
i would personally feel hurt if my dead corpse was dipped head first into a bowl of salt while i was laughed at XD
Ketchup>fish sauce>fishing>fermenting>stirriDAMNSHETHICC>juicing>taste test
Is it a stretch to say the true reason for the fall of the Roman Empire was lack of tasty condiments? I think not.
YAY, i love tasting history.
My Friday is better now XD
Their cat is adorable! I like the fact that the cat did not even want to turned its nose up to it too
I can smell that from here.
Hell yeah Max!!
I am a simple woman: I see Max from Tasting History, I click.
Andy does not hesitate to eat all kind of weird stuff. I like that
Just gotta wonder which person in history saw some fermenting fish juice and was just like "yes, I need this in my mouth"
I think using larger, fattier fish would make for a better product, more of the fat would go in the sauce and it would release more liquid
The other direction - sardines / anchovies make better garum. That's what they did with the small fish they netted - turn them into sauce.
I seem to remember reading that part of the attraction of Garum was that it was a source of monosodium glutamate, before anyone knew what it was.
"i need a spoon"
*casts a spoon"
I really really really like the addition of Lauren to the channel!!!
This is something I've been wanting to make for a long time.
This channel is criminally underrated. I don't know why this channel has little attention.
Always a good day when my favorite creators make comments together
I like how she just decides on the fly to make silverware from scratch
Another good episode :)
Haha, Andy just goes for it
Enjoyed the video so I gave it a Thumbs Up
Fermented fish sauce... sounds delicious!!!!
loved the cameo from Max!
Love the jay and silent bob reference
I love tasting history, I saw the title and immediately thought of his video.
0:40 So your saying, my bach fridge, would blow King Henry the 1st's mind?! my peasentry cooking style today would be earth shattering? MORTY WHERE'S THE TIME MACHINE?! 🤣 Love the videos guys keep up the awesome work
To make garum, you should wait almost a year. The sauce has a completly diferente profile flavour, not with a funky smell like the sauce in the video
“Garbage can juice it takes a minute to sneak up on you and it stays with you “ lmao 😂 best reaction
I think I'm going to stick to good old fashioned corn syrup ketchup but thanks anyway
OH MY GOD THEY GOT MAX I LOVE HIM!
The classic reply to ur own comment strat
I do the same
@@zaniak8643 I'm sorry I just really love the tasting history guy
I love the goo ol katchup
They still make this ketchup in certain places in hastings, UK
My nan LOVES IT
I live in Alaska and this is something we make all the time.
I love the utensils!
so happy the fishing pole is getting some use, with that said i wonder how HTME plans everything in advance so they can always use the previous inventions/items.
I’m so glad I’ve studied greek food and realized what they were talking about
Yup, knew it was Garum, surprisingly this time because of Heston Blumenthal's Feasts series which is as mental as the genius himself.
If you can count on being able to notice that the thing is not rotting, you could rub some cream with camphor in it right below your nostrils to help tolerate the smell.
I just want to say this looks like the sketch "It's technically a meal" from College Humor.... Especially the "I'm gonna stir... I'm gonna do some stirring" :D
"ah sahlad". 😂
"fell out of flavor" noice! XD