EXPENSIVE WINE - CAN A MASTER OF WINE TASTE THE DIFFERENCE? THE WINE EXPERIENCE

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    It is time to talk about wine prices. Why are some bottles dirt cheap while others are as expensive as a new car? And is it possible to taste the difference between the bottom shelf Discount wine and the Classed growth Bordeaux?! These are questions, that millions of people ask themselves every day while shopping for wine and I am trying to answer them today. For that, I asked my wife to prepare three bottles of wine for me that I can taste blind to see whether I can identify which wine is dirt cheap and which one is super-premium …
    Wine is unique: Per definition, it has to be an alcoholic drink made from fermented grape juice. Therefore, wine is a pretty simple product that has been made in the same way for thousands of years even though scientific advances have changed the process in the last centuries.
    Looking at it from this admittedly simplistic viewpoint one might wonder why there are such big differences in price if all wines are technically the same.
    But what makes wine special is that two wines from the same grape variety and the same region can cost anything from 1 Dollar to 10.000 Dollars per bottle. Sure - a wine that costs 1 Dollar has a different cost structure than a wine that is priced in the super-premium segment and only a fraction of the price you pay for a bottle of wine goes to the producer. Depending on the market the bulk will go to taxes, Packaging, Retail Margin, and Logistics.
    UK Wine Retailer Bibendum recently released some information on this topic: On a Retail 10 Pound bottle, only 2,70 Pound or 27% will go to wine production.
    For a 5 Pound bottle, only 0,31 Pounds or 6 % will go toward the wine
    There is, however, also a theoretical maximum you can spend on viticulture and winemaking. The cost heavily depends on various factors but I would say that it is difficult to have a higher production cost than 50 US$.
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Комментарии • 231

  • @leonardoaraujo8364
    @leonardoaraujo8364 3 года назад +25

    Liked and subscribed. I am glad RUclips showed me your channel. Cheers!

  • @spiritalex9397
    @spiritalex9397 3 года назад +67

    No it isn't. People have different hobbies and spend much money on the things they like. I cannot really understand why people pay a lot of money for buying season tickets to support their favourite football team in the stadium. And there are a lot of people who think that spending 10 € on a bottle of wine is expensive. These people will never understand why someone like me sometimes spends 100 € or even more on one bottle but they don't have to. It does not matter if your passion is wine or something else if you really like it its worth the money you spend.

  • @MardyAss
    @MardyAss 2 года назад +30

    Mr. Baum, I had the honor of joining your master class and having a small chat with you afterwards in a California tasting last year, at the Opera in Copenhagen, in somewhat weird circumstances before Corona really exploded. It's awesome to see you have a channel now, it has very quickly become one of my absolute favourite channels - and I'm having quite a laugh. Learning is one thing, but learning while having fun is the best. Good job!

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  2 года назад +7

      I remember this event well - my last international in person seminar before the pandemic! Thank you for your kund words & stay thirsty!

  • @comesahorseman
    @comesahorseman 2 года назад +17

    A wine merchant with many, many years of experience once told me:
    1) If you think it's good wine, then it is good wine no matter what anyone else says. And,
    2) if it's cheap, it's even better! 😅
    Something I've tried hard to remember. 😄

    • @QcChopper
      @QcChopper 2 года назад +2

      Well said! I'll borrow that saying, it applies to so much more than wine.

    • @kellicoffman8440
      @kellicoffman8440 Год назад +2

      Too true I try to be a reverse wine 🍷 snob myself

  • @EricZeak
    @EricZeak 3 года назад +27

    I find the price to quality ratio interesting. I don't think expensive wine is for suckers. It all depends on if it's good for the price range it's in.

  • @zombiepegasus
    @zombiepegasus 2 года назад +8

    Expensive wine doesn't have to be for suckers, but if you aren't very experienced with wine drinking then an expensive bottle will just be a waste for the most part I would think. Interesting video.

  • @marjannevandenberg-dansen7778
    @marjannevandenberg-dansen7778 2 года назад +3

    As my answer on your question: expensive wine is not for suckers. But what is a good wine? I (we) drink wine every day, and as much different wines as possible from Dutch, French and Spanish supermarkets (holidays), wine sellers and also wine producers, and we found that a very good and enjoyable wine may easily come from the supermarket in our own town, for 6 or 7 € a bottle.
    For me, the joy of wine has an emotional aspect too. I love wine from a certain French region, which is not known for producing the best French wine, but the emotion accompanying the drinking of wine from that region already puts it 2 steps higher :-)
    Kind regards from NL

  • @sommelierramon
    @sommelierramon 2 года назад

    Dear collegue, Christian, good thing and big fun ! Keep doing !

  • @1312mb
    @1312mb 2 года назад +2

    That was a very interesting topic and video. I would say up to 50 Euro per bottle you have a correlation between price and quality than the price depends more on marketing, name, location, history, availability etc.
    You also said for 75 Euros you would finde better wines … maybe this could also be a good topic - pick a good wine and than show us some wines that are at the same level of quality/ taste but are cheaper or better for the same price

  • @JesseMinc
    @JesseMinc 3 года назад +2

    Love your stuff, Konstantin! Very enjoyable videos. Keep 'em coming!

  • @nissandjacobsen
    @nissandjacobsen 3 года назад +19

    A small graph tip; you always put the dependent variable on the y-axis. So in the case with quality vs price, quality would be the dependent variable and should be on the y axis. It gives a more intuitive figure that flattens out as price increases.
    Good video!

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад

      Good tip! Thanks!

    • @rajeevshrivastava4488
      @rajeevshrivastava4488 2 года назад +2

      I like it the way it is, because human mind is more conscious towards price, so it made it very easy to understand in fraction of a second, but I get it

    • @zaphod333
      @zaphod333 2 года назад +1

      This nitpicking originates from a limited perspective it seems.
      It all depends on what you want to display. Is it the money realized for a wine of a particular quality ("price")? Or is it the quality you can achieve for a given amount of money ("cost")?
      "Price" suggests it's not the production end but the retail end that's considered. And for that clearly there's first a wine of a particular quality, and then you see what price can be realized in the market. Thus price depends on quality. In other words, even by your own standards the graph is well chosen.
      (I apologize for the necropost. Blame the yt algorithm. :P)

  • @jacobweber4234
    @jacobweber4234 2 года назад +1

    Again, a great video Konstantin, and very relevant. A lot of things goes into putting a price on a wine. I live in Copenhagen, Denmark, and have worked retail for most of my adult life, and in Denmark we have this bad shopping habit, of getting a great discount on our purchases, especially with wines. Such a bad habit, that many customers actually cares more about how much they save on a wine, than how much they actually pay for the wine. This causes most wines to have inflated "normal-prices", only to be offered with a big discount, often half priced. This not only gives a wrong perception of the regular prices, this also hurts fairly priced wines, where the customers don´t understand, that these wines never are on sale for half price.

  • @ahmedalshaiba9185
    @ahmedalshaiba9185 3 года назад +11

    Spain, Argentina and Chile produce great wine with great value, I've been disappointed many times with expensive big name wines, but I also found expensive wine that justifed the price with its extraordinary quality and taste, so in this case, just keep tasting different wines and find for yourself, your bank account is not going to like it, but your taste buds will

  • @johnqureshi9840
    @johnqureshi9840 2 года назад +3

    I’m drinking 2007 Auslese from the Sundial vineyard, it’s a little bit more expensive than I usually drink but I’m a sucker for Mosel Riesling, a fool for acidity and dunce for minerality. Great vid KB

  • @pablopolanka
    @pablopolanka Год назад +1

    Hi, Konstantin. Congrats on the channel, it is as informative as it is fun! I'm from Argentina, a sommelier too, but I'd describe myself as a wine enthusiast who loves to indulge on the good stuff at weekends (mostly). In my experience, even for people who have very keen senses and are eager to learn, it usually takes years of practice to be able to acutely tell between all kinds of price ranges and levels of quality. I can now easily distinguish, in blind tastings, between wines belonging to varying tiers if the flight is of around six or seven, tops. Otherwise, it's really hit and miss, but quality can be discerned, and it's totally possible to assess whether a wine is properly priced or not. Cheers!

  • @jsensei3421
    @jsensei3421 2 года назад +1

    I am applying to get my MBA in Wine & Spirits management in Bordeaux and your channel is teaching me so much! SUBSCRIBED!

  • @garyvicmonton9534
    @garyvicmonton9534 2 года назад +1

    Great content!! subscribed!!!

  • @Blue28485
    @Blue28485 3 года назад +3

    Great stuff, thank you.

  • @feelinggrape
    @feelinggrape 3 года назад +2

    Great as always!

  • @MDL-lw9my
    @MDL-lw9my Год назад

    Great tasting. Cheers 🥂

  • @jacob9540
    @jacob9540 2 года назад +1

    For most people that don’t drink wine often and don’t really know anything about wine, an expensive bottle is probably a waste as they probably would be just as happy with a great $10 bottle. I also like how you point out the difference between cheap and good value. If a bottle is $5 but is awful, who cares if it’s cheap? If a bottle is $17 but amazing quality for the price then that is a great deal to me.

  • @MsJavaWolf
    @MsJavaWolf 2 года назад +4

    I don't think that more expensive wines are always for suckers but I also think it's important to know your palate and I think the quality really doesn't increase that much once you are above a certain price point.
    A few weeks ago a friend and I did a blind tasting, it was a really nice 25 gbp rioja vs. a Tiganello. I was able to taste the difference but I couldn't really say that one wine was better than the other, both tasted phenomenal to me.
    It showed me that I personally should probably gather a bit more experience before trying any more very expensive wines.

  • @leugim8872
    @leugim8872 3 года назад +4

    Sucky wine can be expensive, sure. The only problem I have, the more I get into wine, the more I realize that I am a sucker for expensive wine. Being stateside, Barolo and Burgundy can fetch some formidable chunks of my paycheck. Also, the more I get to taste greater and/or more expensive wines, the more I enjoy lower prices wines that are great, for the price. Overall great video, like the breakdown of each wine. Cheers 🍷

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад

      Thank you Miguel. Wine can turn into an expensive past time ...

    • @leugim8872
      @leugim8872 3 года назад

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine yeah, I'm hoping to get my retail license one day, unfortunately it is kind of difficult and expansive in California

  • @leonardoaraujo8364
    @leonardoaraujo8364 3 года назад +8

    It is exactly as you said. Until a certain price level, you have a costs and quality correlation (if the winemaker didn't messed it up). After some Point (lets say 100 dolars), fashion, fame, limited numbers of bottles available (rarity, scarcity) ,... This kind of effect takes place.
    Vox or everyone saying different (I saw The Vox video ) is totally showing their lack of knowledge about luxury economics.
    At The higher level, it isn't about costs anymore. It is the same with cloths, cars, watchs, bags, food, ...

  • @user-yq2tl1hz9y
    @user-yq2tl1hz9y 3 года назад +1

    chateau batailley 1995 was my one of my best wine in my memory im glad to make me to memorize that moment

  • @thomasmichael6509
    @thomasmichael6509 Год назад +1

    A couple of years ago a group of friends and I did a similar test, where we got 4 bottles at different price points to see if we could guess which was which, and we also got 4 different varietals to see if we could also tell which type of wine was which. We all were able to tell the difference between varietals, but we were hit or miss on price.

  • @koifamous25
    @koifamous25 2 года назад +1

    Thanks very helpful

  • @peterpuleo2904
    @peterpuleo2904 2 года назад +5

    I have had a number of wines priced at $150. per bottle and many more at $15.00 per bottle. The higher priced is definitely better in most cases, but not nearly 10 times better, if it were possible to numerically quantify.

  • @goth_nick
    @goth_nick Год назад

    It's not for suckers, but as you mentioned in the graph, quality starts to depreciate after awhile when compared to price. But if you're dealing with wines under US$100 (or under 100 euros), I would say that quality does equate to price up to that point.

  • @christianbolt5761
    @christianbolt5761 3 года назад +4

    Easy test for a WSET, I would hope that an MW can taste the difference.
    The cost percentage as a function of the price is a great point. Benjamin Lewin goes this in one of his books

  • @domewines
    @domewines 3 года назад +1

    Great one!!!

  • @markpharo6017
    @markpharo6017 2 года назад +3

    The challenge that I see is that price is not a guarantee of quality. In my experience if you want a fantastic wine it will cost at least a moderate price if not more, but you can pay a high price for a bottle and only get a moderately good wine. Then once you find a very good wine for a price you feel is reasonable throw in the fluctuation from vintage to vintage and it really become a crap shoot. But thats wine!

  • @WhatWeDoChannel
    @WhatWeDoChannel 2 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed that! Is expensive wine for suckers, I think your graph showed it all! I live near a good wine region, I know a good grape farmer, I have learned some skills and now I can make great wine relatively cheaply!
    P. S. there are very few people who have the ware with all to become masters of wine, congratulations!!!
    Klaus

  • @MankindFails
    @MankindFails 2 года назад

    4:22 When I was younger I was able to fill glasses with a snap of a finger like this.

  • @drmatthewhorkey
    @drmatthewhorkey 3 года назад +1

    #nailedit hahahha funny, the last time I was in Germany, I bought a older vintages of Château Batailley at Globus.

  • @pushslice
    @pushslice 3 года назад +1

    Very nice video; but pivoting on that 2015 Bordeaux vintage: Would you be drinking those now; or wait longer (for everyday enjoyment; not for the video) ?
    Let’s say, for bottles that are in the €40-plus category .

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад +2

      I would say keep your 2015s locked away. The wines were and are pretty strucured so they can age for a long time.

  • @lukeadv
    @lukeadv 2 года назад

    Great channel, love the videos.
    Luckily I'm not an expert so I can enjoy cheap wines :-)

  • @Winefordummies
    @Winefordummies 3 года назад +1

    Could you do a video about decanting? Had a discussion with a colleague and he disagreed with me about decanting young tannic/alcoholic/funky red wines. He said only older wines.
    Can you make a video explaining your point of view? Thanks

    • @skulleton
      @skulleton 3 года назад

      “Funky” (reductive) wines, and wines that are young and not showing much should be decanted. Contrary to popular belief, decanting does absolutely nothing to tannin. Your wine will oxidize before any significant tannin polymerization occurs, that is a fact.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад

      Good idea! I will add that to the list.

  • @AlpineTrails
    @AlpineTrails 2 года назад

    I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to try both the Château Mouton Rothschild 2004 and the Chateau Haut-Brion 1996. I'm not sure if they worth their price tag but can certainly not be compared to the regular supermarket wine. So expensive wine is not for suckers, but it is for whoever can afford it.

  • @renearestrup6099
    @renearestrup6099 2 года назад +2

    Well, I think to some extend 'quality' is a matter of personal preferences. On the other hand there is clearly a big leap in quality when moving from the cheapest wines to the mid-priced wines, just as you suggest. I think once you pass the 25 Euro mark it gets exceedingly difficult to distinguish between wines solely from a quality perspective. Personally I've found that some expensive wines are what I would categorize as total rip offs

  • @dwongst
    @dwongst 3 года назад +1

    Interesting topic! I would have liked a more in depth explanation of how you figured out between the cheapest and the mid-range bottle which is which.

  • @moeclass
    @moeclass 2 года назад +1

    That marker sound. Gosh

  • @francoisjpdutoit
    @francoisjpdutoit 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting video! I too struggle with that fine line between what is too much money for quality and what is just plain cheap and you don’t even bother. I am from South Africa, and I have tried wines from Chile, Spain, France etc etc. I think in terms of prices and quality we have a good selection without breaking the bank every time.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  2 года назад

      Thank you!

    • @lmmadsen2073
      @lmmadsen2073 2 года назад

      I actually consume a lot of South African shiraz! It is awesome. Your country has a lot of delicious reds.

  • @dadexwine9851
    @dadexwine9851 3 года назад +3

    Nice video!!!💪

  • @fanatiek1
    @fanatiek1 3 года назад +1

    Did the same on Sunday. Piece of cake ;-)

  • @daviddavies5555
    @daviddavies5555 3 года назад +3

    Good video. Easy perhaps for a master or even WSET 3 level but

  • @happyburial
    @happyburial 2 года назад +1

    Great Video! Subbed.

  • @hannesklotz6702
    @hannesklotz6702 3 года назад +5

    i had to stop watching when i heard the scratch of the edding on the paper . it gives me goosebumps

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад +1

      :) Put your fingers in your ears next time. I was done with the edding after a few seconds...

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli 3 года назад

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      Please, please, pretty please - use a voice over when drawing. The sound is *extremely* irritating and has made some of your videos unwatchable for me. Not everyone is as sensitive as I am, but I'm sure you're losing viewers like this.

    • @AnonymousMycologist
      @AnonymousMycologist 3 года назад

      @@Ildskalli Let him do the content the way he wants. Some people, like myself, quite enjoy that sound and get a bit of an asmr effect from it. He doesn't need to cater his content to tiny subsets of individuals. His content should reflect what HE wants to do, and the audience that sticks around is the audience that loves his content, which is the audience I am sure he wants. One can easily skip over this small portion of the video if it bothers them while still understanding the point of the chart. Cheers!

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli 3 года назад

      @@AnonymousMycologist
      I have no power over what he does or doesn't do. But you probably won't stop watching if he mutes the sound, whereas I do turn the video off and go somewhere else. So, it's a quick way to lose part of an audience. Also, you have no idea of how "tiny" or significant that part is.

  • @Fabio-le7fi
    @Fabio-le7fi 2 года назад +1

    Sehr informativ und unterhaltsam, vielen Dank! Vorschlag: eine Blindverkostung von - sagen wir - 10 roten Burgundern unter 10 €, die man in D finden kann. Wäre das was?

  • @adrianting6146
    @adrianting6146 2 года назад +6

    Great video. Expensive wine is certainly not for suckers. In my experience, many "untrained consumers" can tell a 4 Euro wine from a 400 than you think. My wife, who rarely drinks, can consistently get this right when I challenge her on similar taste tests (champagne, red, white, sweet etc.). There are many factors that make a wine expensive as you pointed out, e.g. legacy brand regions with good PR; perceived quality, supply vs demand etc. There are gems as well as underperformers at each price range, and your graph says it all regarding price.
    Some friends are amazed by my ability to tell a grape variety from another and often wonder how I do it (which isn't at all amazing really!) They claim they can never do that. I usually answer the question by asking whether they can distinguish Assam from Earl Grey/ a cheap oolong from an expensive one/Pepsi vs Coke or a freshly ground coffee from instant . It's all a matter of how familiar you are with the product & how interested/ willing you are in learning about it/ care about what you drink. Most people, contrary to their belief, do have a palette good enough to tell the difference.

  • @thebulge6295
    @thebulge6295 3 года назад +17

    I have never found great cheap wines, ever. On the other hand I have found mediocre very expensive wines from time to time. So, yes, price does matter but not in an absolute way. I have huge problems with bottles over $150 usd vs a $300 bottle or so. Many times you are buying the experience and fame of the wine and thats it. Worst QPR in wine right now is Napa ( my fav region but extremely overpriced) and for value I would go to Argetina and Spain.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад +4

      Yes, when a wine is that expensive you also have a certain expectation in it. If a 300 $ is not absolutely outstanding it is immediately disappointing.

    • @elliothm8370
      @elliothm8370 3 года назад +2

      Definitely Spain!

    • @tbjtbj4786
      @tbjtbj4786 3 года назад

      I guess that would also depend on the kind of wine you like.
      The only wine I really like is scurpon

    • @ahmedalshaiba9185
      @ahmedalshaiba9185 3 года назад +1

      Absolutely, Spain, Argentina and Chile produce great wine with great value, I've been disappointed many times with expensive big name wines, but I also found expensive wine that justifed the price with its extraordinary quality and taste, so in this case, just keep tasting different wines and find for yourself, your bank account is not going to like it, but your taste buds will

    • @WineOnTheDime
      @WineOnTheDime 3 года назад +5

      Don't forget about Portugal. They have a great QPR too!

  • @Houman7
    @Houman7 2 года назад

    One important question, after tasting many high end wines (young of course) I realized more astringent they are, more expensive they usually get? Do you have any idea about that?
    Thanks

    • @AGR1uk
      @AGR1uk 7 месяцев назад

      Aging potential and longevity, I would guess.

  • @jean-marcducommun8185
    @jean-marcducommun8185 3 года назад +2

    Interesting topic! No, you have to spend some money to get a good wine and when you spend more you get better wines up to some point. The market has become highly efficient, there is no bargain. For me drinking wine starts at about EUR 30 to 40 (Mauro, Spain) for that amount it get a good wine, next step is around EUR 50 to 70 (Hacienda Monasterio, Spain) usually a very good bottle and if I really like to go to the top I have to spend around EUR 100 to 140 (Guado al Tasso, Italy). I would say that above that price level you start to buy the region (France is more expensive than Argentina) and the label of the wine but there might be exceptions I'm not familiar with. You can forget about buying first class wines at rock bottom prices - this idea is prevalent among suckers who lacks the taste to distinguish between moderate, good and excellent wines.

  • @giuliettcamel
    @giuliettcamel 2 года назад

    it really depends if thw person buying can appreciate the quality of the wine, If not better to buy cheap wine!!

  • @stelviodelbrava6218
    @stelviodelbrava6218 2 года назад +1

    You are great! I have a question: where could I do a DNA test to find out the grapevine variety growing in my backyard? I've heard that something like that exists in Austria. Thank you!

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  2 года назад

      Thanks! I am not sure whether DNA testing is possible ... you can identify them by the shape of the leaves, tips and clusters with a little bit of practice. The science behind it is called Ampelography

  • @JanAdriaanDreyer
    @JanAdriaanDreyer 2 года назад +2

    As an accountant I wish there was a database that would give a rating/ price for each wine, so that you can get the best value for money. I also find that some Bordeaux wines tend to be overpriced, just because they have the name. I found some amazing Italian wines for less than 10 Euro, that could easily compare to a Bordeaux of 15 Euro or more...

    • @zaphod333
      @zaphod333 2 года назад

      Impossible as "quality" is fuzzy and depends on the consumer. Also it's the better part of the fun being a wine geek to hunt for the best value, isn't it?

  • @danf321
    @danf321 2 года назад +1

    The quote about whisky applies to wine: The best wine is the wine you like to drink, the way you like to drink it. But, good wines should tell you a story when you drink it. It should have layers of flavor that surface, and those flavors should last a long time. I’ve had cheap wine (sub $10) that are decent, but I’ve had more cheap wines that are just poor excuses for wine. Cocobon, Ménage a Trois, Apothic are all crap, but many people love it.

  • @MrFawdawg
    @MrFawdawg 2 года назад +1

    The $75 price in the US is the most i spend. Haven't tasted much better above that. Mostly i drink wins around $30 to $40 a bottle, from smaller vineyards in Oregon & Washington

    • @abcdefghijkl5408
      @abcdefghijkl5408 Год назад

      Love your price range....that is almost exactly where i operate

  • @bjornhosek9210
    @bjornhosek9210 2 года назад +2

    NO ...not by definition but a lot of suckers only buy expensive wine to show off. my problem is that often at the first moment i drink red wine i get heartburn ...
    i've noticed that with good quality wines (that often cost a bit more) it's far less ....
    that said i recently had a glass of barolo from a 100 euro bottle that tasted like shit to me while on the other hand that same night i had a barolo from the same pricerange that tasted like liquid chocolate !! amazing wine .... but i forgot which one lol.
    anyway a great video again .... but you might use a pencil lol

  • @adamlundmark595
    @adamlundmark595 2 года назад +1

    It is not just about the quality of the wine making, it is first and foremost a question about terroir. That is why grand cru burgundy is outstanding.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  2 года назад

      Is it always? There are a lot of Grand Cru wines that are pretty unappealing. The vineyard is important, but if I take grapes from Romanee Conti and turn them into wine, the wine will not taste like the wine the DRC makes from the same site.

    • @adamlundmark595
      @adamlundmark595 2 года назад

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine I think even you would make a very good wine from that vineyard.

    • @robdielemans9189
      @robdielemans9189 2 года назад

      I disagree. Terroir is at 3d place. At first place is the winemaker and at 2nd the grape variety. You can "create" terroir with techniques I mean look at vin de paille for instance.

  • @pt3391
    @pt3391 2 года назад

    Great channel and video. But halfway into the video I realized that shirt combined with the stone background looks like he just tunneled his way out of prison, stumbled onto a winery and decided to rate some of them.

  • @numanuma20
    @numanuma20 3 года назад +15

    Expensive wine is not for suckers and the EU knows this. That’s why France has 1er Cru and Grand Cru and Germany has GG.

    • @skulleton
      @skulleton 3 года назад +1

      Yea, but a lot of those geographic determinations were made for political reasons, or because those sites were warmer (when global warming hadn’t set in yet), and are now pretty irrelevant to anyone who knows what they want. Like point scores, those classifications ARE for suckers.

    • @valdencorr2861
      @valdencorr2861 3 года назад +1

      @@skulleton ironic how you're calling others suckers when you're spewing "global warming" nonsense lol.

    • @turmify
      @turmify 2 года назад

      @@valdencorr2861 Jesus...if anyone knows about Global warming it's winemakers. They've dealt with more and more bust vintages, more and more intense summers which require more intense UV protection for the grape's skins, and earlier and earlier picking seasons. You obviously know nothing about viticulture, science, or even common sense. How many "hottest year on records" do you need? Jesus.

  • @katiemasters3473
    @katiemasters3473 3 года назад +1

    What were your indications that 1 was the mid and 3 was the cheapest, since 1 was underperforming and 3 overperforming for their prices?

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад +1

      The cheapest wine was simple in its expression but it was clean and approachable. The mid priced wine was more serious but it lacked harmony and did not really perform as well as Bdx wine in this category do.

  • @_Seppixx
    @_Seppixx 3 года назад +1

    Definietly nice to watch your video but I think the 2015 vintage of Batailley is hard to compare because it was a insane vintage.
    Dont know how you paid 75 € for that bottle I found enough shops where you can get way cheaper :)
    Nevermind good one and greetings from germany :)

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад +2

      Yes, I will do another video with wines at more similar price points. I might have been ripped off. The shop where I bought it is a bit expensive in general.

  • @AwesomelyAwesomeO
    @AwesomelyAwesomeO 3 года назад +4

    Perhaps next you could discuss wine investment =D

  • @TRR11
    @TRR11 3 года назад +1

    Lieber Konstantin, tolles Video mit interessantem Inhalt. Vielleicht könntest du nächstes Mal etwas langsamer sprechen? Grüße !

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад

      Danke! Unten im Video kann man die Videogeschwindigkeit und natürlich auch Untertitel einstellen. Liebe Grüße

  • @TeaTimeSweetness
    @TeaTimeSweetness 3 года назад +3

    the price range is quite huge tho. I wonder if you can taste the difference between 10, 25, 50 euro....

    • @AnonymousMycologist
      @AnonymousMycologist 3 года назад +1

      I think he would be able to at those numbers. I think the numbers you picked were quite reasonable. However, an over-performing 10 could easily outshine an under-performing 25, but the question is whether or not he would be able to see through that in the tasting. It would be very interesting, I agree!

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад +1

      I will do another tasting to test that.

  • @novalexa3135
    @novalexa3135 2 года назад +1

    the price-quality curve, where, at a point, price no longer reflects quality, is more characteristic of French wines. In case of, for example, Spanish or Portugese or Argentine wines it should look more straight.

  • @matze4612
    @matze4612 2 года назад +1

    I'm not that into drinking wine.. but I really enjoy learning about it. :)
    You're a bit like the wine equivalent to James Hoffmann, at least content wise.
    Ps. Hopefully soon I can say the same about your viewer/subscriber numbers.

  • @stephencoates5105
    @stephencoates5105 3 года назад +1

    I think the experience of enjoying the wine is as integral to the price as the quality of the wine. I am willing to pay $50 usd for a bottle of locally produced wine that you might pay $30 usd for a more mass produced wine just for the experience of tastings at the winery and supporting local a business (I live in the Santa Cruz CA AVA)

  • @Natashaz48
    @Natashaz48 2 года назад +2

    Yes and no. IMO, there are so many great wines that are affordable but under $75 - $100, but the higher priced wines can usually be reliably better than cheap wines.

  • @mikeconza1698
    @mikeconza1698 2 года назад +1

    I recently discovered you (and subscribed) - like your other videos I’ve watched thus far, this was great! But what’s making me leave this comment is . . . wow . . . I love that shirt! 😏
    But seriously (although the shirt comment was serious) - great videos! Looking forward to mining your prior videos as well as future content.

  • @awsomenesscaleb
    @awsomenesscaleb 6 месяцев назад

    Obviously you can taste the difference in quality between $5 and $1000 wine. What's worth knowing is if you can the difference in quality between $100 and $1000 wine. The $1000 wine doesn't cost any more produce and its price has more to do with prestige and market demand.

  • @peterpuleo2904
    @peterpuleo2904 2 года назад +1

    Some people drink wine for the ethanol hit, which can be obtained at low bargain prices. I see some of them buying gallon size wines for $10.00 To me, it is dreadful, and I would prefer water, or lemonade, but there would be no ethanol slam.

  • @tonybrooks7201
    @tonybrooks7201 2 года назад +1

    i recently had a chance to sip a pomeral wine i would say saint emillion but having paid very good money for this wine its just to tart am i missing something i know james martin tv chef goes mad for it as his estranged dad is a master of saint emillion i doubt id pay 3600 for a bottle of wine

  • @joedennehy386
    @joedennehy386 3 года назад +2

    Almost anyone could tell the difference between a $10.00 and $100.00 wine. A challange would be the difference between a really good Hawke's Bay Nz $40.00 chardonnay and a good $300.00 french chablis (type of thing)

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад +1

      Yes. The point I was making was that anyone with experience can taste the difference. But I will do another tasting along the lines of the one you are suggesting - stay tuned!

    • @joedennehy386
      @joedennehy386 3 года назад

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine ha ha, i also know you could easily tell between a new world and old french wine. The problem you have is that you could set yourself the perfect challenge, so you may need a collaboration

  • @florisa6021
    @florisa6021 3 года назад +2

    It all depends of how much you can appriciate a wine

  • @mattnpatxi
    @mattnpatxi 2 года назад +1

    If expensive wine is for suckers then whole generations of families are suckers giving their lives for it! Expensive wine is like expensive anything, premium products with passion driven in and top results coming out.

  • @VALLAERION
    @VALLAERION 2 года назад +1

    Where in the hell can I get 1 dollar wine???
    I NEED TO KNOW NOW!!

  • @kevyk8011
    @kevyk8011 Год назад

    Oh. The sharpie sounds. Otherwise very educational video

  • @killerdude-hz2bb
    @killerdude-hz2bb 3 года назад +1

    so which wine is the best wine?

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад

      The wine you are enjoying in the moment ... or rather: There is no such thing.

    • @killerdude-hz2bb
      @killerdude-hz2bb 3 года назад

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine hmm are u saying there is no best wine because wine is bad? i googled and turns out ur wrong best wine: "Cabernet Shiraz by Sula is touted to be India's best-selling red wine, and about one sip later you will understand why"

  • @equalizingforce2581
    @equalizingforce2581 2 года назад +2

    It really is ridiculous. Everyone likes different attributes, no one can tell another what tastes well. Me and my friends were masters of beer but some liked really hoppy flavours and I preferred smoother continental notes. I brew my own wine now and everyone who tastes the reds saying it is far superior than the shops, although they will not pay more than £15 per bottle.

  • @matthewfink1420
    @matthewfink1420 2 года назад +1

    A bit confused about how wine 1 and 2 were both 2015, but you said wine 1 tasted young in a negative connotation but wine 2 was good because it tasted young and could last the years

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  2 года назад

      I am trying to explain this at 5:26 - it does feel young even though it is aged suggesting that it has further aging potential. Wine 1 is young but in the sense of being astringent and not really harmonious.

    • @matthewfink1420
      @matthewfink1420 2 года назад

      Thank you for the explanation

  • @seminky5341
    @seminky5341 2 года назад +1

    One thing for sure is dont trust vivino. Use it as a guide only.

  • @algirdongas1
    @algirdongas1 2 года назад

    One small gripe - the sound the marker makes on the paper can be irritating

  • @treyhudson73
    @treyhudson73 3 года назад +3

    That Paulliac needed more time, I'm sure!

  • @wenq5086
    @wenq5086 2 года назад +1

    Alright, i almost never comment. Really like your videos informative, but can I make a suggestion? The marker makes a really unpleasant squeaky noise that’s irritating, please use a different method for diagrams or pictures ?

  • @zehzinho85
    @zehzinho85 2 года назад +1

    I guess the graph you presented in the video answers the question: yes! After a certain price point you stop getting actual value, right? So, why spend the money other than impressing other people? 🤔

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  2 года назад +2

      Because impressing other people is important to humans

    • @doc8125
      @doc8125 10 месяцев назад

      Some things might also not get better, but it might be different than what you can get at a cheaper price point, and that too is fun experiencing

  • @Sylvia-Storm
    @Sylvia-Storm 3 года назад +1

    I wonder what he’d make of my homemade plonk.

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  3 года назад

      I am always happy to try plonk!

    • @Sylvia-Storm
      @Sylvia-Storm 3 года назад +1

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine we have been offered another half plot on our allotment, so I want to start growing fruit for wine making. Particularly I want a good grape vine that will produce good wine making grapes out side in mid England.

  • @zizzie4081
    @zizzie4081 2 года назад +1

    I want to know about the drawing behind you

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  2 года назад

      I got in from a restaurant in Tuscany and it represents quite well my relationship with wine ...

    • @zizzie4081
      @zizzie4081 2 года назад

      Even more interesting. What are they saying, and what is he thinking?!

  • @matteobevilacqua1340
    @matteobevilacqua1340 2 года назад +1

    well that's what you're supposed to do man

  • @dillondavis4509
    @dillondavis4509 2 года назад +1

    75 euro I think it’s relatively expensive but I have friends that would make that sounds cheap

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  2 года назад

      Yeah, wine can easily go up into the hundreds or thousands...

    • @dillondavis4509
      @dillondavis4509 2 года назад

      I agree though at a certain point the price isn’t always an indicator on weather a wine is going to amaze your taste buds I find my happy medium between 20-80 for me I can’t justify 200 a bottle or more unless it’s for special occasions

  • @robdielemans9189
    @robdielemans9189 2 года назад +1

    Nope. But many times you do not want a wine with longevity. You want a great taste that doesn't linger too long and for those kind of wines you're a sucker if you spend 20 or more Euro's on it.

  • @rolandstolt2584
    @rolandstolt2584 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for a great video. And you are only a sucker if you don`t know what you are paying for.

  • @subadaily4282
    @subadaily4282 3 года назад +1

    как то это все наигранно смотрится ) слепая дегустация круто конечно ( но что то сомнения закрались

  • @erikajones3490
    @erikajones3490 2 года назад +1

    How does your wife know what to select for you?

  • @keppela1
    @keppela1 2 года назад

    Yes, expensive wine is for suckers, if you get the wrong bottle. It's not for suckers if you get the right bottle. It's all a crap shoot.

  • @yuidc
    @yuidc 2 года назад +1

    This is the only wine tasting that i never see the person actually taste it.. why did you need to cut that part???

    • @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
      @KonstantinBaumMasterofWine  2 года назад

      Would you have liked to see me spit and slurp? There are some videos on this channel with me tasting the wines but I find that that part is a bit boring.

    • @yuidc
      @yuidc 2 года назад

      @@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine well, its wine tasting right? Why ask me to spit or slurp..

  • @eskatonededude8863
    @eskatonededude8863 2 года назад

    Being generous with the number I think anything above 100€ is for suckers, show off.

  • @kentpiano2600
    @kentpiano2600 6 месяцев назад

    Expensive wine is for connoisseurs
    No sense spending money if you can't tell soap from salt