Sengezo Tshabangu, Politician In Conversation With Trevor
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
- In this week's episode, Trevor sits with Sengezo Tshabangu, a Politician. They discuss why he claims to be the interim Secretary General of the Citizens Coalition For Change (CCC), how CCC is an offshoot of the MDC-Alliance and allegations that he is being used by ZANU PF. They also discuss his history and relationship with CCC President Nelson Chamisa, the criminals around him, why he didn't raise his issues before the election, accusations that Tshabangu is undermining the will of people through recalls and many more....
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Thank you Trevor for this interview It is good to hear his side of the story and reasons for his actions. I have a few questions for him,
1. How does he think recalling his own representatives will help CCC be stronger rather than divide and weaken the movement.
2. How does he guarantee that supporters who voted will go back to vote and even keep supporting CCC. He is taking citizens for granted.
3. Why does he believe ZANU PF will let them win for the second time when they are desperate to gain more seats in the house? There is no way CCC are going to win back all the seats he recalled. ZANU PF has resources and can push for a win by any means necessary.
4. Was it not wise to put their house in order and argue amongst the leadership before recalling representatives that supporters voted for? In other words he is undermining their support base.
5. If he is so unhappy with CCC why is he to always tagging himself to Chamisa. Surely the party is bigger than just one man or is it? Are these guys just pods around Chamisa, busking in his glory.
6. He says ZANU PF was not responsible for Gukurahundi when all the leaders who orchestrated these atrocities were from ZANU PF. Both Joshua Nkomo and Dumiso Dabengwa are on record saying this was a ZANU PF project. How many families of the victims would agree with him?
7. I agree that CCC needs to fix itself but this is not the way. these guys are like two puppies that loudly fight for a bone, only to attract the attention of the BIG Dog (ZANU PF) will come and grab the bone and leave them to starve.
8. SURELY, ARE THESE GUYS STRONG, WISE ENOUGH TO DISLOGE ZANU PF AND BE ABLE TO RUN THIS COUNTRY IN A BETTER WAY???
In conclusion. I will say this interview has just shown me that these guys in the opposition lack fundamental wisdom required to lead the people. They dont know when to fight, when to come together, when to speak with one voice or when to keep quiet. They are in it for fame and Money. I am so hurt that we ever thought they would take us to the promised land. I am so hurt by how much trust and sacrifice citizen put in them in the last election only for them to start a cat fight that does not benefit any voter. They clearly dont know the direction to the promised LAND. All Zimbabweans can do is pray and not put hope in politics. Politicians are not concerned about people and are not there to save us for they only worry about themselves and their egos.
This country will only change when the state organs become APOLITICAL, Only then will the gifted and innovative Zimbabwean citizens be able to contribute to the development of the country without waiting for political change. we need to look beyond politicians because they all sing from the same hymn book and operate on same ethos and values. ME FIRST AND MASSES LAST. THEY ARE GREEDY, TRIBAL, SHAMELESS , INSENSITIVE AND CORRUPT.
answering question number 6...the state was responsible not zanupf...yes because zanupf was a political party.in its office s..whilst the state deployed soldiers to counter so called dissidents of zipra millitants...and to bring order to matebeland....and the state was headed by a political party zanupf but zanupf...members never went to bulawayo to kill people but it was soldiers sent by a ministry of defence and security which is a state orgarn
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@@makomboreroticharwa8216 you have jokes Makomborero, so we should say ZANU led government, kkkkk ayaz
Why are you saying they this, and they that?
t’s only one person one side story according to Tshabangu. So shouldn’t you be saying “he” this and he that? It’s Tshabangu who’s fighting now.
hezvoness we live among dangerous people this is surely the last days @@makomboreroticharwa8216
the problem we have in Zimbabwe is we do not have politicians with people at heart . just power hungry hyenas
Zimbabweans worship personalities instead of principles,its sad that people will dismiss Tshabangu before hearing him out. This strategic ambiguity has been a mess but to most of my countrymen they don't care if Nelson Chamisa is right or wrong about it, what ever he says goes.Anyway thank you Mukoma Trevor for this enlightening conversation 👏👏
no wonder Zimbabwe is in such a mess. Surprising how all those bashing Tshabangu see no wrong in N.C making appointments as he pleases. It doesnt make sense
People quickly forget that N.C is a terrible liar. He lied openly that Donald Trump promised him 15 billion, He also lied that He helped Kagame set up the economic development model being used in Rwanda.
Needless to say when both Trump and Kagame were asked by journalists they both didn't even know the guy. 😅😅
We're just so desperate as a nation we turn a blind eye to some very disturbing patterns demonstrated by chamisa.
@@firsttrust-thabisolerala8903dictator lite and people are too blind to see it
Zimbabweans are so blinded that they don't see that Nelson Chamisa is slowly becoming a blood thirsty dictator, in our quest to fight dictatorship we should be careful so that we don't become like our enemies.
The road that Nelson Chamisa has taken is the same road that Robert Mugabe took, he became a monster in a bid to fight a monster.
This is wisdom...
Thank you Trevor for this interview. This is exactly what some of us wanted. Asking Tshabangu objectively without any emotions or bias. Good journalism is allowing people the opportunity to judge for themselves and this is what you’ve done beautifully. After listening to the entire conversation, I can confidently say I like what Tshabangu is representing. This explains why his arguments hold water in court apart from the usual ‘our courts are captured’’. And I like the question that Trevor asked Tshabangu on whether he was misunderstood. I think he is misunderstood. Some people are clouded by emotions and worst imaginations of who/what he is representing. It’s understandable given the suffering that people have gone through. However, beyond that, Tshabangu is raising fundamental issues that if not addressed, the opposition will continue to have splits until Jesus comes. I personally think we should have more people like Tshabangu for democracy to prevail in Zimbabwe. Lastly, while the issues of tribalism he mentioned may be undermined, I strongly feel these issues are real within CCC and that’s very sad. Being a Shona myself, it’s so easy to dismiss this 😢We pray that we find leaders who don’t see Shonas or Ndebeles BUT leaders that see Zimbabweans. My final thoughts are, Tshabangu is not an impostor. This guy runs MDC, MDCT, MDC Alliance and CCC in his veins. Unfortunately, he’s an example of important players who work in the background and are never known YET they play significant roles to make the party tick.
Unfortunately we love nelson. And nelson it shall always be.. he might be going thru trails and tribulation. But we will get there.
Manje gheto yout harisupporte CCC kana MDC baba. Rinosupporta chamisa. Kukanzi new party yaakunzi muchende front tinoenda ikoko. Maparty office irwai zvenyu asi isu vanhu takangomirira kunzwa kuti mukomana achati chii chete tobva tamuteera. Do you have to learn the hard way like bla douggie?
The man has clarity in detail. He has just upgraded the quality of cadres in CCC, a rare feature. So far so good.
Tikuda chamisa tikuda change , why can't we fight for change then we deal with these other things
@@donaldmutede9089 Change will not come unless we deal with these things first
After watching the entire video, his closing remarks are the most zanu apologist thing he's said. Also, saying that zanu was not responsible for gukurahundi when the person who allegedly engineered gukurahundi is the current head of Zanu has to be a slap in the face for all ndebele people. At the end of the day, his actions have done nothing for the average Zimbabwean person. His actions have weakened the opposition at a time of national crisis. For that reason alone, Tshabangu will be remembered for enabling the oppressor.
You are now trying to drive a wrong narrative now, He explained clearly what he meant on the issue of gukurahundi, go back and listen if you missed it.
Iam Ndebele and l understood clearly.
Let's learn to listen to facts.
Most people who are commenting are not interrogating the core issue but are just throwing tantrums. That's why Zimbabwe is where it is. People listen by heart not brains. Even in the face of facts denialisim.
It's your our own opinion. Tshabangu says Chamisa is his President. How then are the recalls made without the knowledge of the President. With whom does he make the recalls.
This man is throwing a tantrum. Why did he stay with the party if he was so upset that there are no structures.
I wonder if parliamentary recalls can really solve the lack of a constitution & structures in a party.
This is well orchestrated attack on the CCC stable, issues to do with party constitution & structures would be solved whilst parliamentary business goes on.
You don't strengthen a party by destroying it!.
Wouldn’t it be easier for Tshabangu to use his power and expel Chamisa and replace him with his chosen man!!!
Kkkkkkk
Most interesting in this conversation is: how Uncle Trevor tries to appear neutral, and corner Tshabangu when infact, everyone including baboons on mountains know Trevor HATES Nelson and love wgat zanu is doing through thus gentleman Tshabangu.
What a shame.
A dignified, professional interview. Thank you Trevor for respecting Tshabangu. I hope Blessed Mhlanga has taken notes.
Dhara asked the difficult questions. You r zanu boy wasn't ready for that
@@kundaichirunga5406 nah he was jus an emotional boy
Thank you so much Trevor for making us viewers understand much better from this charlatan, we now openly see his angle. Tshabangu u are a sell out PERIOD, history will judge u
May you kindly invite real ccc to meet this man on your platform
What is your definition of real CCC...Those people who unquestionably support Chamisa's dictatorship
Only a few will understand you Tshabangu but by the end of the day they will thank you 👏
You can understand politics at the end of the day now check how he destroy MPS ,YOU CANT BUILT BY LOSINg it gives us answer that is any imposter Zanu pf project
Imbwasungata iyo
by elections have been held zanu pf got 7 more seats who is the biggest loser now
He is well researched on what to say, shallow people will believe his story,😂 at the end of day the mandate is simple to free people of Zimbabwe any act against that is not smart and must never be tolerated.
Yes the ppl of Zim must be free from both Zanu n CCC liars.
Free Zimbabwe and hand it over to a young dictator.
Why is Chamisa not following the constitution.
Why is he not filling the affidavit and challenge him in court.
Why is he chasing the likes of Welshman, Biti and company away.
Why is he not negotiating the release of Job Sikhala, since Job is a political prisoner
@@mandlenkosihlazo977agreed 👍🏽
@@buthoendebele8440your name says Butt Hole dude 😂. Besides that you made a very powerful point there, those are questions we should be asking
Please invite Chamisa for a balanced conversation 😅
Chamisa doesn't do interviews.
chamisa will never do an interview with anyone who will ask him hard questions
Chamisa haadi zvekutaura nevanhu he is busy on Twitter and praying
Trevor Ncube hates Chamisa with passion
Chibhangu is sick in his head he didn't answer the first question and Trevor turned a blind eye
Professional interview.Thank you Trevor setting the bar high. Not journalism full of emotions.
lol which journalist was full of emotions
True
@@richmusicgod the one for that boy Blessing 🤣🤣🤣.he is so unprofessional
Even if ZANU candidates rig their own primaries, they will never recall their MPs, EVER. It still begs the question why?
So what??Zanu is Zanu..Why should they be the reference??
@@mandlenkosihlazo977 so it still begs the question, why recall your own, kkkkk?
@@georgezivanai9063 They aren't "your own" if they got there by underhand dealings..Proper PROCESS should be followed.Chamisa n his gang should respect their supporters.
"Your own", meaning Tshabangu's own. There is no mention of Chamisa anywhere. Kkkkk
@@georgezivanai9063 Saka ukut kkkk chii ipapa??Ukutot wataura zi-point ipapa???smh Dzungu rakakuwandirai.Chimborambaii muchiitiswa naChamisa.Muchamuka zvenyu
He really knows he can only ride on Chamisa's name without it he can't go any where 😢😢
The moment we all have been waiting for
Travor atowona kuti Blessed failed. Blessed shld learn how interviews are conducted kwete ruzha rwaaita. Trevor asked the same questions Blessed asked but in a calm and professional way. Thank you Trevor, for your intervention.
Blessing he has proven to be incompetent..ndewe madrama uye pafeya
Coltard lost but the same people that didn't vote for him are ok with him there. And is not recalled . Don't make the sense
Blessed Mhlanga is renowned for being himself & not being Trevor Ncube. Blessed put the bastard to the chopping block, Trevor cajoled a fool. That is the difference.
@@spencerbobo6610 Blessed is far much better than this trevor, he failed to ask simple question
Trevor was giving this guy time to think and he was let out with so many un answered quotations. @@esaumadzura
He is indeed an enemy of progress like he says
Progress without directions is a disaster
A very mature, very sober and balanced conversation. I had the chance to listen to Mr Tshabangu giving the history in the trenches to the present. I also got to understand what he meant by the structureless creature as a "new CCC within the CCC". The lack of challenge by any leader in the form of affidavits in a court of law is a strong indicator that there is much more that the leaders would not want to be in the public domain.
hauna kukwana same same na tshabangu empty head
Muramba you're drunk🚮
@@kundaichirunga5406Why do you want to expose your stupidity to the world? It pays to remain silent when you have nothing to say.
@@user-iv8co5mh2cIt all depends on what your head contains. It's a pity that because you have your view of the issue and want everyone to see things your way. Where is the democracy you purport to preach?
Nonsense
Hate this guy, but he is telling the truth. He is politically sound in politics. He has been there since the birth of MDC and it’s variant’s until it converges to the CCC. Keep doing the good work Tshabangu, may the spirit of Mzilikazi, Lobengula, etc., be with you.
Great interview, I think his facts are valid and making sense, I would like to hear Chamisa's side of the story or Biti and the Prof, for a balanced debate.
The moment you fielded double candidates, you became enemies of progress!
This is showing us that he is not ccc member
Okay, so in 1999 the MDC was started.
2005 the split happened & there was MDC-T to differentiate from those who had left.
I’m still lost on the appointment of Khupe but l keep my mouth shut.
So MDC Alliance is CCC as rightly explained & the President is Nelson Chamisa. I’m struggling to understand why this man is demeaning Chamisa yet on the other hand he still acknowledges that Chamisa is the party President. I do smell a rat, time will tell.
Thanks again Trevor for asking those uncomfortable questions. You never disappoint 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thank yu trever this one is eating money fro garwe.
This will end in tears
Thanks for the interview Trevor. Sengezo has articulated his case very well. He comes from the labour movement, as such he is committed to the cause of the workers. Chamisa is using Matebeleland for his own purpose he should work with Tshabangu if he wants people to keep voting for him.
😂
U are a joker
Thank you Trevor for the highest level of professionalism during this interview.
CCC is shooting itself on the foot by not having structures. President Chamisa also should prove through an affidavit in court of law to dispute the position held by Sengezo Tshabangu.
The video quality is sooo good on this
Thank you Trevor for the interview. People must learn to follow the constitution, even in church in house of God there is some form of order. We say wapusa wapusa is stone age & this madness must be stopped. Tshabangu l am fully behind you even if l have never met you in life. You are fighting a genuine good cause.
Constitution of that church not one from other churches. U understand one destroying his own. How ? Is formulating to gain xpossure Meet yo pple Tshabangu
Yes you're from another country you fool!
Trevor they boy shot you down. Your were already against him at the start. You must be ashamed Trevor!
The first level headed CCC/MDC Politician I've ever seen. I've never seen any opposition person in Zimbabwe calling out the snakes in his own party.
People always defend their dirty linen and protect one another even in evil practices.but this Tshabangu has come out to cleanse the party
Instead of being celebrated people want to crucify him.its a shame
This guy has raised the Political Risk of Zimbabwe banks cannot access foreign funding you and I are going to suffer because of this idiot. Look at your wellbeing every politician is a thief including this guy who lost all seats. These are all bankable facts.
Level headed kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk if u are greedy like this guy u support such nonsense nw let me educate u a bit he recalled ccc MPS nd neva field any candidate in Mabvuku Zanu won 7 out of 9 seats were thy neva used to win who is the fool Mnangagwa is vying for anthr term he wants to ammend the constitution were hv u Eva seen Tshabangu campaigning for Chamisa long back surely we cld hv known this guy wt a lier a cheat stupidity is wen u thnk u have power wen u loose it u wll see Mwonzora did the same were is he
thank you trevor for this engagement
How can he say he is putting HIS house in oder at the sm tym giving floor to ZANU PF
Jealous is the key point of people who are after position they don't care about the citizens
Thank you! I sense a bit of resentment towards Chamisa. He definitely doesn’t like him. Very sad.
This guy is full of lies and just wants money for himself. Even Ed admits Ghukurahundi yet this moron wants to say its not Zanu but the state.
I now understand where Tshabangu is coming from,,
Just form your own party Cde. Leave Chamisa if you are not happy
Amen to that
Greatest interviewer of all time , everyone is very angry about Tsabangu but still he deserves space to air his views without being emotional or bias
Tshabangu is offended by Shona people failing to pronounce his name despite having worked with him for years. But minute 59.23 he just failed to pronounce Priscilla Misihairambwe despite them having worked together as well, I saw a video of him failing to pronounce Gukurahundi despite the word has been used over and over again whenever people sympathize with the victims. He is somehow a tribalist, however all other political issues he z talking about makes sense and need to be looked into.
Hmmmmm you are being wrong there, don't even go there. You just trying to bring conflict. There's an agenda to move forward, but only with transparency for all citizens despite the tribe. Just stay away from Gukurahundi topic
@@alexheart3976 my point is that it's not a big deal if you can't properly pronounce a word or name that is not your mother tongue
This guy is talking about MDC of very long ago Shame talk about CCC 2022 to 2023 the constitution shocked you because you're not part of CCC and you were still holding on to your MDC Alliance constitution 😮
This devil is very bitter and jealous look at him a lone fighter just start your own party and apply all the nonsense that you're talking about you mad man Brain dzako dzaremara Shame
This one takes facts from what social media 😂😂😂 what people say is exactly what he says
Zimbabwe saints ( Mashonaland chiwororo) football club appointed an unlearned Jehovah Masowe chairman Max Kutsanstira or Mupostori) led to the clubs demise. CCC are following in the same footprints thinking a member of this sector would lead to prosperity.
Mr. Trevor Ncube you are the best. Very professional that is why your interviews are always above par.
The man, the myth, the legend. The man doing such a phenomenal job. Well done sir. Keep doing what you do. Chamisa cannot be a dictator.
Serious Zimbabweans don't deserve this Chabangu nonsense, by recalling members of parliament what does the opposition benefit?? Let them try their luck but history will keep repeating itself like Khupe and Mwonzora issues, this is a game of numbers which is Chamisa's strength.
Tshabangu not Chabangu
@crisisactorr It's on purpose to emphasise a point don't worry
Professionally done Trevor
Trevor,, if Tshabangu and his people mean well for sure... Why are they hiding in shadows.. Why are they not coming out open...Why are they not coming out so every citizen can know them and what they stand for so we can decide ourselves whether we can follow them or not
Tshabangu is evil and no explanation can hid these
After This Interview i am now 100% that This man is paid heavily by Zanu Pf. Thank you Trevor for this Interview 🙏
On point
Some of issues he is raising are very true.If sorted the party can be strong.
@@nkululekotshuma4618 Chabangu is talking about MDC in CCC & CCC is not MDC
@@wilsonguta9645 one of the thing that I want TSHABANGU to recall everyone in CCC.now you are calling him Chabangu
What does CCC constitution absence has to do with recalling of CCC MPs?
Can you be in a house with no order?
Uuuuuuuuuumm,, Trevor Ncube is a star ⭐,,,never knew he is this objective,,I'm impressed Trevor
Thanx for the clarity my brother, we now understand and know what u represent, what ur doing and why ur doing it.
What is Mr Tshabangu's ultimate political ambition?
chabangu uri dhodhi
@@classicdiscussions801 POC Tshabangu
Utori duzvi hombe
To do things right from the start
To make sure that the opposition party (ccc) is mature and organised enough to win elections and rule…simple.!! At this current rate it’s still playing beach football without shoes…clowns without rules or let’s say constitution. A party made of jokers.!! Tshabangu is definitely serious and the jokers are rattled.
To be honest I think i am starting to understand this guy. Thank you Trevor for a professional interview.
because you are crazy
Yes a destroyer. Kumba kwenyu munobuda musaga so zvikadhakwa. Zanu hai daiso even munhu akashandisa zita rawo. Wane maitiro awo
It's a shame that us Zimbabweans we allow such nonsense to happen, we allow our votes to be played with ans still see it as an entertainment or something to joke with.
When you listen to this guy with an open mind, he makes a lot of sense.
But does not make sense bcoz what is doing is to destroy the party and give power to zpf n why are they doing with others behind the scenes??? N why internal issues he has to do it publicly??? N y he is trying to do a coup that benefit zpf ??? N don't you anything that you do does not make sense because we as citizens never complain about that ??? Don't you see that if he was ccc member he is doing this to gain power n ignoring us citizens who voted for the mps councilors he is now recalling??? Who complained about whatever/everything he is doing ryt now
Nonsense
Nonsense 💯
Absolutely rubbish
Why not just form your own political brother and leaveCCC alone
It seems like 'strategic ambiguity' was eventually going to stop the interim secretary general from ascending so he decided to fight hard for preservation
I am now of the firm belief that strategy ambiguity has really affected Zanu pf and they really want to destroy it.
This man is evil. He denies as not being part of strategic ambiguity but still confirms he was elected through the same strategy he does not want to associate himself with
Dzungu rakakuwandirai..
But chamisa somewhere aneka dictactorship
No you don't understand Tshabangu was elected on the transiting MDC A ticket. Why are you sowing seeds of dictatorship foolishness
@@user-fp6wf4ns9v Not "ka''.. Atori dictator..He knows he has the blind support of many people so he can do anything.. If CCC collapses he knows he can start another party n will still have a lot of support. He's like his father Morgan Tsvangirai...And ,like his father, he will never be president.
@@user-fp6wf4ns9v Nopw to be clear I don't mind a dictator if he's honest n patriotic..Like Paul Kagame..In fact I prefer such a leader.
As long as tribalism thrives Zimbabwe will not go anywhere . Tshabangu has ignited a conversation that needs a huge table and people must be free to have that conversation
Zimbabwe is tribalistic nation. Two people sowed this seed during the liberation unfortunately these self emerging politicians don't know a lot of things.we know people who have messed up things during the liberation up to now but their cage is closing in.
I am ashamed to now accept it too. I was naive at 41 years old.
Ccc is not mdc Chamisa was bared from using the symbols of mdc it's 2 different parties
i like the way u ask questions Trevor
Kkkk😂 He is speaking for Zanupf
100%
I hope Mhlanga learns a thing or two about professionalism. Good interview uncle Trevor
if you are open minded , there is a lot to learn from this guy, he's making sense to some extend
He is not making sense at all, he is picking holes in the CCC strategic ambiguity.
How can he say they are an offshoot of MDC that gave birth to CCC . Does that mean the party has 2 names?
He says the same thing he has been saying since he was interviewed with for his same nonsense. The questions he is asked are a piece of cake to him.
There is no sense coming from this man. He's bitter and retributive why recall elected members when he could talk to Chamisa
@@charibannywell …are you that stupid not to follow a narrative.!?
I agree! He’s making a lot of sense
Learn lessons from Dr Joshua Nkomo Sengezo it's sad to see you tearing us Ndebele people. Father Zimbabwe must be turning in his grave with all due respect
two Zanuist interviewing each other. the only person that knows what he does is Blessing Mhlanga aka Dhara. that's what we call HARD TALK
ZANU pf wants to weaken us by pointing out issues of tribalism. I love my Ndebele people but not Tshabangu he is weakening the opposition and making it hard for them. Let's us not be confused by this ZANU instrument and stand strong as one people of Zimbabwe. Let's create a new Zimbabwe were tribalism does not divide us.
Very correct and of logical stance
When two people driven by hate for an individual have a sit together
Nonsense.
True to that Trevor the guy is working hard in glove with ZANU PF. The time is coming. Zimbabwe will deal with him soon. I feel sorry for him and his family. Thanks Trevor once more
I don't know politics hangu but this disregard of the voice and will of the people is something because structures or no structures the people voted for those MPs you are recalling.
Some how I agree with this guy, what is ambiguity strategy? Structureless , no constitution, among others, money received not audits.
Nonsense.
Crazy indeed just unbelievable
Only facts.
Great conversation
Which facts nhai? Why recall elected officials to address an internal figths
Than you tshabangu for standing up
Much better interview than the one hosted by Dhara
This is a conversation, not interview. The one Dhara did was HARD TALK INTERVIEW
Ummmm dhara wenyu anonetsera kuti he just want to talk in his show than the guest
Dhara made this guy admit he made a mistake.
Dhara idharq
Dhara is far much better than uyu
THIS GUY IS WELL INFORMED
only unity can take our country forward. we have great minds and resources that can take us forward but all of these are being killed by politics and partisan lines 😢
Besides not necessarily agreeing with you Tshabangu there's sense in all what you are saying and Trevor good journalism skills for asking and listening I'm Blessed Mhlanga can one or two things from this conversation
When Tshabangu says his party is setting the tone for dialogue and wants dialogue. who is going to negotiate with ED cz Tshabangu wasn't on the ballot paper. Chamisa was the one on the ballot. Tshabangu is as confused as a maggot
kkkkk. They want to remove the criminals around the President as a first step, then persuade him to go for dialogue.
This man talks sense, political ambiguity has its flaws. It’s not good in a democracy.
Blessing Mhlanga should learn a lot from Trever.
Chibangu has a well choreographed story, simple minded individuals will believe him .
What do you mean by “simple minded people.!!?” Who and what type of people are these.!?
Again the man's surname is not this insult you just wrote, please respect other people's names & tribes. This is the problem with this country & tribalism@@mattpistachio5497
Very well said. He is just saying same things he has been saying since. His comfort zone is the courts
T-S-H-A-B-A-N-G-U not spelt in isiShona Syllables. It cant be hard for a complex mind like yours
It is very clear that you are the simple minded person…you can’t even spell the name ‘Tshabangu’. Maybe we should also mis-spell your name as ‘Cristoferjick’.
Tshabangu you know exactly what you are up to thank you for enlighting us
Very competent and very uptitude.
Very sensible if we listen with a balanced critique
I don't even understand what are you talking of,,,
He makes a point though.
Point of what sir this is mwonzora young brother y don't you learn from past no no guys,,he is not ccc member that's all whatever he is doing is the benefit of zpf unless you are one of them
wat point
United we stand , divided we fall.
You don’t need to be a Zanu pf member to support it. Mugabe declared voting for Chamisa not because he was a MDCA member but he was an agrieved Zanu pf member. Even both Mnangagwa presidential wins can tell that there Zanu pf members who voted their Party MPs and voted for an opposition Presidential candidate. Tshabangu is an agrieved person who is reacting by benefiting Zanu pf even if he can say he will never be a Zanu pf
I totally agree with Mr Tshabangu, he is correct. As long as Chamisa is God in CCC then we can forget about removing ZANU. Mugabe was God and look where we are. We cannot keep Chamisa scoring own goals forever and expect ZANU to be removed. As people we now don't know whether these own goals are mistakes or deliberate....the truth must be said otherwise what different are we from Mugabe
He can form his own party and see if he has clout
He must form his own political party. He is allowed particularly if his mind is set on tribal mind!
SO YOU WILL OVERLOOK ALLIGATOIONS, AND THAT'S ALL YOU CAN SAY🤔
listen to what it is he says. Pay attention
Loojs like this CCC belongs to Chamisa not to the party members
Many leaders feel a great temptation to pretend they know everything that's coming down the pike. They feel an unreasonable need to project self-confidence. Leaders often fail to understand that people do not need a leader to have every answer. Mazvinzwa here?
When this Guy is about to tell a lie he smiles!! 😢 ukubobotheka
😂😂😂😂😂
my own understanding is CCC is a new party not an off shoot of MDCA, 😢 i give up
In theory..
Your shallow understanding
Thats just what the liar called Chamisa made people believe..
I am impressed.viva Tshabangu.well collected gentleman.am proud to have such people from our country
Correct!
aaaaaaa shame on you
Sisonke lapho.i value his opinion.i don't like Zanu but would not agree to anything that has imprints of Zanu in the form of opposition.Chamisa he lost in his own home province
true bro he is talking facts
I really also want to understand this Songezo guy. Hw does the recalling of mps chosen by pple help the CCC as his party. Nw that he has recalled them what's next. What is he trying to fix exactly.
Exactly his just a liar and a sell out. CCC will not get any votes come next election just like how delusional Mwonzora ended up pulling out the election when he realised no one was voting for him.
I hasitate to open this because my heart boiles
His eye movement from start to finish is saying a lot
That's how he is do u want to change his character
I can see the man is fighting his conscience, shame. When u lie u hurt yrself. Imagine the hurt when knowing that you are creating history which will dent even Yr clan forever.
Zvorwadza kunge kuromba
@@user-qh9ir4oj5b he know what he is doing is wrong and he has no peace from within.
Constructive criticism when you are recalling MPs😂😂😂
Anorwara uyu. That's not constructive
Dear brother Trevor, as I listened to this conversation please allow me to comment as follows, I don't agree with Tshengezo that if his name is wrongly spelt then it's someone mocking him in the name of tribalism. While there are people who are tribalist in Zimbabwe you have to understand there this is both ways meaning right now there are people who grew up in deep Mat North who struggle to pronounce Shona names yet they are not tribalists eg I am CHITSA a ndebele person would call me Tshitsa or Tshona so please don't be drawn to think like that including Tshengrzo. Secondly I agree with Tshengezo that gukurahundi was perpetrated by the state and not ZANU pf and his explanation is clear though not fully. What I mean is when we talk of Zanupf part we are talking about it's leadership and members. Zanupf has membership from across the country all ten provinces who feel gukurahundi was wrongly perpetrated against other black people in matebele region. Yet the state admin used it's leaders who were from ZANU party to cause what happened. In the early 1890s You may wish to know that my ancestors the Hwata. Mhofu people used to fight with Lobengula in Mazowe area yet when white people came Gwindi mhofu went to kwaBulawayo talk to King Lobengula that they should stop fighting as black Africans but unite to fight the European settlers. So this means a fight between ndebeles and Shona is like two brothers from different mothers.If there is a Zimbabwe who despises ndebele speaking people that person needs education because I can't love a Nigerian African and not love a ndebele from Tsholotho Zimbabwe. As for me I don't understand ndebele because I grew up in Mashonaland but I gave my daughter Táboka a Kalanga name so I think some of these things are childish from your platform we are maSahwira and blood brothers we are now marrying each other no need for this tribal. You Trevor I know you are not tribalist but don't act like you are instigating tribal discontent. I am not CCC member but I love what Tshengezo is doing no matter what people in his party think,you can aspire to be in government and ignore law because hapana chinoitwa mu government chisina cover of the law so CCC should desist from hiding under the so called courts are captured.Tshengezo asked a very valid question to Mlhanga and said if CCC had won the election on the calibre of its MPs who was going to be minister of what . Finally thank you Trevor