Trevor, you missed the point. CCC did us a favor by refusing a pre-arrangement with ED. The result, our issues are now well understood by the international community through various reports on how we handle elections. Please give credit where it’s due.
Most international community has known of our struggles and the cause for it for decades. I bet you're sitting in the diaspora because a person in Zimbabwe wants redemption from the suffering like now
Great interview Trevor and Ibbo. A couple of points : Trevor, to make out that the opposition and Zanu PF are both to blame for violence is misleading. Go back to the hundreds killed and brutalised by the State in previous elections. There is no comparison. Ibbo, to suggest that Mnangagwa should head a transitional government sounds like madness. Have we learned nothing ? Why is Nelson Chamisa not given real credit where it is due ? He has done incredibly against the odds . In my irrelevant opinion the actual vote and support showed that he reflects a massive connection with peoples hopes for change. Thank you gentlemen. Respectfully Larry Norton
Thank you Trevor for this important and timely interview with the esteemed Dr Ibbo Mandaza. Dr Mandaza is a true patriot and logical thinker. He has great insight into the Zimbabwean political landscape. We pray for that great turn around of a great country that deserves better than the current crop of primitive leaders who are continuing to destroy the soul of the country.
It's a pitty SADC leaders are part of the self-serving cabal that leads Zim, hence their indifference to this. To add insult to injury Mnangagwa has now appointed his children to the cabinet. We need a sea change of Leadership at SADC level (except in Zambia & Lesotho where this appears to have already taken place) for us to see the required response to this nonsense behavior. I pray that my country RSA is the next to experience such change in next year's elections.
It's nice too see our speaking the truth fearlessly and boldly about the affairs of our country. Such honest conversations are the key to the future that we hope for.
Thank you Trevor for your beautiful show.l suggest Nelson Chamisa should be invited if he is willing to clear all the accusation and all names that has been labeled against him and the public will be the judge of that .
@@samgidds he has never been invited that's why l am enjoining Trevor to invite the gentlemen so that what ever he accuse Chamisa of, He will then be able to respond
Thank you Trevor , and Ibo for clarifying issues that are causing us to retrogress instead of progression of all Zimbabweans, keep up the good work. the struggle for a better Zimbabwe continues . Our fathers, mothers, brothers, uncles, aunties, sisters died for our freedom inside and outside Zimbabwe. Many of these opportunists, who are the ruling elite never fought for our liberation, let the truth be told. The really liberators most of them are dead and only a few remain . These true liberators did not die for a few , but for the majority and to eliminate poverty. Enough is enough these opportunistic people must go , taneta vanhu vedu vatambura .
Brilliant mind Yu brought in there. Am however confused by yo narrative that Chamisa is doing for himself. We at this point now bcoz the young had the guts to take on the regime against all odds. Honestly fellow countryman can't we be grateful and offer support and encouragement to one of our own trying his best????
I was also shocked by Trevor's assertion, with the way he campaigned countrywide and coming out the winner (though stolen) despite the obstacles. Then an old man says he is not happy with Chamisa, he smoked something I think. Among all the opposition candidates you just target Chamisa how about Madhuku, Mwanzora etc.
The right generation is now engaging in conversations about pertinent issues - I have hope we are now at a juncture we are building the Zimbabwe all patriots are crying for - let's keep the conversations and critical dialogues going.
Consistently rational and constructive. Zimbabwe and Africa urgently need great transformers and thoughtful citizens of this calibre among many. Zion. God bless.
Dr Mandaza is one of the greatest intellectual legend on the African continent ....his contribution to the geopolitical landscape of Zimbabwe is immeasurable...he is a fearless freedom fighter... We are in the Diaspora please inform us where we can find the petition. We want to sign it too. Opinions may differ, personally I feel it was good that Chamisa participated in the elections, and the key outcome is that he exposed the incompetent Pfeerorists to the world ....😂
Mr Ibbo thank you for your heroic service. You are doing great work behind the scenes. I pray for your strength and double portion of wisdom. Your are appreciated please dont give up
I love your production but this is tremendous so to speak. It's somehow full of intelligence and maturity which lakes from the so called government leadership and judiciary. It exposed the greenness of H.E and his shortfall in discipline. Exposing selfish style of government. Reduces what foolish ideology preached to citizen in the rural areas who unaware of the practicalities of the ideas. Those rural folks are unaware of how they can pursue accountability. Keep us informed and i thank you
53:56 I am a young professional with 3 years industry experience now, I have tried staying in Zim because i love my country, but now i have decided to leave the country for good
Indeed tribute ,bravo,kudos to Ptofessor Ibbo Mandaza ,he was in the trenches fighting 4 Zim Uhuru in.Tanzania,Botswana &Mocambique!.History is going to judge him kindly ,for he is definitely on the right side of History !!!!!!.
Dr. Ibbo Mandaza speaks openly about this runaway country and the politics thereof. Change has been long overdue in Zimbabwe. The way forward now is going to be the most painful one.
Well done Dr Ibbo. Love the depth of knowledge, a deliberately flexible way of looking at our politics and clarity of views regarding how we could clean our mess.
It's quite impressive to hear elderly people like Ibbo. Mandaza telling it as it is their wickedness no words can really explain munangagwa and his crew they are evil very evl very very evil devastating
Trevor, your programme is superb. You bring personalities like Ibbo who expose the other side of news that the ordinary person in the street may never know. Keep the good work and God bless. Heads up to Ibbo and Sapes Trust
Legitimacy is key. The nonsense of yesteryear is fast becoming unpopular and you risk isolation as the world modernizes. If you choose dictatorship path better be benevolent one and development oriented like Singapore founding path. If you can’t then vacate. All people cry for in Zim is a government focused on progress in healthcare, education, water and electricity provision, infrastructure and not obsession with power retention. I’d guarantee that if they focused on real development nobody will be bothered about them ruling 1000 years.
Thanks very much Trevor. Ibbo belongs toa rare category of Zimbabweans. Many of his generation chose to sell their souls for the proverbial supper but he has remained, to borrow from him, courageous and on the side of the people...what a patriot!
a well informed and mature discussion about Zimbabwe by people who care. well done Trevor and Ibbo . I rank this interview together with Chief Ntabazinduna as your absolute best.
@Prof Mandaza a very sharp mind even at 75. Many great ideas and insight. If only our leadership had these kind of minds as advisors and not the Mutsvangwas and Charambas.
@@samgidds people like Professor Mandaza give the President advice as official advisors only for him to start perceiving them as enemies, their advice is often taken in pieces therefore ineffective or they are sidelined.
Zimbabwe needs such people like you guys! I wish leadership of Zimbabwe has people like you who have their country at hearts!! My heart bleeds .. God must do something... I like your conversation you guys! It's healthy!
Trevor thank you for bringing in the professor IBBO Mandaza to the show this is what we need to hear from our elders not this thing of blaming sanctions calling others the western puppets lemme Guys like Tinashe Jonas and Rutendo matinyaeare Maponga
I am impressed by this whole show. The breath and scope is amazing. But as l write, my concern is how to upend my signature on the petition going round.l need to sign it yesterday.
Inbo, you hv always been hero since the 80’s . Your new title is ‘John the Baptist’ the fore runner. Keep on doing what you are doing. We are listening and following every step of your process 🙏🙏
Very informative views in this platform, thank you Trevor, the world needs to know how politics is being commercialised these regimes that are criminals, toxic to the Nations affected especially Zimbabwe, ZANU PF has continued to be a Military Government.SADC needs to be Firm with its rules as an Organisation for Africa, change needs to be held strongly moving forward to Development, nations are Suffering at the expense of these unfairly contested Elections 😡...
Very good discussion. What I don’t like Is Trevor’s beef with Chamisa and opposition. It shows how true it is when they say a leopard 🐆 cannot change its skin spots!
Dr. Ibbo Mandaza is such a wealth of knowledge. Its a pity we have never maximized on such beautiful minds as a country.
This is a real professor, a man who knows and thinks through his ideas before he talks. Well done Dr Mandaza
Did you not learn anything from the COVID pandemic. Follow the money.
Great show Trevor. Thank you so much for bringing Professor Mandaza on!
Dr Ibbo Mandaza is an oasis of knowledge whose contribution to our nation & SADC region must be celebrated.
I had never pay much attention to Dr Ibbo, but this interview made me understand this man better, he is really a well of knowledge. I salute you Dr
No one across the political divide matches Ibbo's clarity of thought
Thanks Trevor, folks like Ibboh, John Makumbe et al should be celebrated for the great work they did to the nation.
and Masiphula Sithole
@@kwazinkosisibanda1287 exactly
This discussion was a very interesting one, 1 hour was like 10 minutes, I just wanted more & more😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Thanks Trevor
Mr Mandaza is a respected man. Dignified gentleman.
Trevor, you missed the point. CCC did us a favor by refusing a pre-arrangement with ED. The result, our issues are now well understood by the international community through various reports on how we handle elections. Please give credit where it’s due.
Most international community has known of our struggles and the cause for it for decades. I bet you're sitting in the diaspora because a person in Zimbabwe wants redemption from the suffering like now
Great interview Trevor and Ibbo. A couple of points :
Trevor, to make out that the opposition and Zanu PF are both to blame for violence is misleading. Go back to the hundreds killed and brutalised by the State in previous elections. There is no comparison.
Ibbo, to suggest that Mnangagwa should head a transitional government sounds like madness. Have we learned nothing ?
Why is Nelson Chamisa not given real credit where it is due ? He has done incredibly against the odds . In my irrelevant opinion the actual vote and support showed that he reflects a massive connection with peoples hopes for change.
Thank you gentlemen.
Respectfully
Larry Norton
Good to listen to intellectuals very addifying. If ZBC was like this surely l'll be the 1st to tune in. God bless Trevor 😊
I await for part 2 of Prof Mandaza. I feel that there is more that we can milk from the professor
Thank you Trevor for this important and timely interview with the esteemed Dr Ibbo Mandaza. Dr Mandaza is a true patriot and logical thinker. He has great insight into the Zimbabwean political landscape. We pray for that great turn around of a great country that deserves better than the current crop of primitive leaders who are continuing to destroy the soul of the country.
It's a pitty SADC leaders are part of the self-serving cabal that leads Zim, hence their indifference to this. To add insult to injury Mnangagwa has now appointed his children to the cabinet.
We need a sea change of Leadership at SADC level (except in Zambia & Lesotho where this appears to have already taken place) for us to see the required response to this nonsense behavior. I pray that my country RSA is the next to experience such change in next year's elections.
It's nice too see our speaking the truth fearlessly and boldly about the affairs of our country. Such honest conversations are the key to the future that we hope for.
Trevor this is probably the best interview I have heard about zim ...you nailed it
Thank you Trevor for your beautiful show.l suggest Nelson Chamisa should be invited if he is willing to clear all the accusation and all names that has been labeled against him and the public will be the judge of that .
Has Chamisa ever been invited?
@@samgidds he has never been invited that's why l am enjoining Trevor to invite the gentlemen so that what ever he accuse Chamisa of, He will then be able to respond
True he should invite Chamisa
Thank you Trevor , and Ibo for clarifying issues that are causing us to retrogress instead of progression of all Zimbabweans, keep up the good work. the struggle for a better Zimbabwe continues . Our fathers, mothers, brothers, uncles, aunties, sisters died for our freedom inside and outside Zimbabwe. Many of these opportunists, who are the ruling elite never fought for our liberation, let the truth be told. The really liberators most of them are dead and only a few remain . These true liberators did not die for a few , but for the majority and to eliminate poverty. Enough is enough these opportunistic people must go , taneta vanhu vedu vatambura .
Brilliant mind Yu brought in there. Am however confused by yo narrative that Chamisa is doing for himself. We at this point now bcoz the young had the guts to take on the regime against all odds. Honestly fellow countryman can't we be grateful and offer support and encouragement to one of our own trying his best????
I was also shocked by Trevor's assertion, with the way he campaigned countrywide and coming out the winner (though stolen) despite the obstacles. Then an old man says he is not happy with Chamisa, he smoked something I think. Among all the opposition candidates you just target Chamisa how about Madhuku, Mwanzora etc.
Indeed. What about Mwonzora and Maduku? Trevor said nothing!
Professor Ibbo Mandaza and Travor Great Minds . I respect
The right generation is now engaging in conversations about pertinent issues - I have hope we are now at a juncture we are building the Zimbabwe all patriots are crying for - let's keep the conversations and critical dialogues going.
Thank you Trevor this is the most important conversation you have ever done mukoma
You are great man Ibbo
Dr Ibbo, if Chamisa didn't participate, the Madhukus would have participated and endorse Zanu PF. Isn't thats so?
True.
As for me Chamisa and Co dd a splendid job!
Consistently rational and constructive. Zimbabwe and Africa urgently need great transformers and thoughtful citizens of this calibre among many. Zion. God bless.
Dr Mandaza is one of the greatest intellectual legend on the African continent ....his contribution to the geopolitical landscape of Zimbabwe is immeasurable...he is a fearless freedom fighter...
We are in the Diaspora please inform us where we can find the petition. We want to sign it too.
Opinions may differ, personally I feel it was good that Chamisa participated in the elections, and the key outcome is that he exposed the incompetent Pfeerorists to the world ....😂
Mr Ibbo thank you for your heroic service. You are doing great work behind the scenes. I pray for your strength and double portion of wisdom. Your are appreciated please dont give up
Great stuff. Thanx Doc. l Stand with the idea of a transitional government with all the components you explained. Great analysis.
What an insightful conversation with Dr Mandaza❤🇿🇼🇺🇸
I love your production but this is tremendous so to speak. It's somehow full of intelligence and maturity which lakes from the so called government leadership and judiciary. It exposed the greenness of H.E and his shortfall in discipline. Exposing selfish style of government. Reduces what foolish ideology preached to citizen in the rural areas who unaware of the practicalities of the ideas. Those rural folks are unaware of how they can pursue accountability. Keep us informed and i thank you
53:56 I am a young professional with 3 years industry experience now, I have tried staying in Zim because i love my country, but now i have decided to leave the country for good
Great talk!
Sadly, such candidness can be a death sentence if you a Tom, Dick or Harry, in Zimbabwe.
Ibbo and Trevor you taking the bull by it’s horns telling the truth hopefully the people in ZANU PF will understand
Much respect Dr Ibbo, I strongly believe that deliberative democracy is the way to go.
One of the greatest shows i have ever watched on your platform Trevor
Thanks gentlemen, there is hope when such minds speak out in the mids of the chaos. Please provide the link to sign the petition.
One of the most information interesting descussion I've listened to
Indeed tribute ,bravo,kudos to Ptofessor Ibbo Mandaza ,he was in the trenches fighting 4 Zim Uhuru in.Tanzania,Botswana &Mocambique!.History is going to judge him kindly ,for he is definitely on the right side of History !!!!!!.
Really enjoyed this one. Probably the best episode. Thanks so much for inviting Ibbo
Dr. Ibbo Mandaza speaks openly about this runaway country and the politics thereof. Change has been long overdue in Zimbabwe. The way forward now is going to be the most painful one.
Thank you Dr Mandaza! Voice of reason and rationality.
The man is well informed
Ibbotson Joseph Day Mandaza is an eloquent and progressive academic
Insightful interview 📌. Thank you 🙏
The future owes you both a salutation. This is the maturation of Africa and its people..I am grateful.
Very informative our country needs you guys
Really infomative and educational especially for those of us who are so isolated out here . There is indeed hope .
Well done Dr Ibbo. Love the depth of knowledge, a deliberately flexible way of looking at our politics and clarity of views regarding how we could clean our mess.
This man (Ibbo)is resourceful and heavily linked yjooo
It's quite impressive to hear elderly people like Ibbo. Mandaza telling it as it is their wickedness no words can really explain munangagwa and his crew they are evil very evl very very evil devastating
Thanks Mr Trevor bringing me ibbo what a learned and historian.keep the good work
Interesting & Informative conversation...thank you Trevor
Joe Mutizwa, Strive Masiiwa and Ibbo Mandaza must be made Presidential advisors. We need such voices to us to move forward as a country.
Which president
Chamisa
Thanks Mr lbho for telling the truth
either way; there would have been criticism for Advocate Chamisa, to participate or not to participate in the 2023 elections
He did the Good thing to participate. The man is working tirelessly
Great interview a lot to digest and think... VaMandaza a great mind indeed
Trevor, your programme is superb. You bring personalities like Ibbo who expose the other side of news that the ordinary person in the street may never know. Keep the good work and God bless. Heads up to Ibbo and Sapes Trust
NAT has to lead for 10 years to review and amend all our laws,institutions, economy etc and hold elections in the 11th year
Legitimacy is key. The nonsense of yesteryear is fast becoming unpopular and you risk isolation as the world modernizes. If you choose dictatorship path better be benevolent one and development oriented like Singapore founding path. If you can’t then vacate. All people cry for in Zim is a government focused on progress in healthcare, education, water and electricity provision, infrastructure and not obsession with power retention. I’d guarantee that if they focused on real development nobody will be bothered about them ruling 1000 years.
Thanks very much Trevor. Ibbo belongs toa rare category of Zimbabweans. Many of his generation chose to sell their souls for the proverbial supper but he has remained, to borrow from him, courageous and on the side of the people...what a patriot!
a well informed and mature discussion about Zimbabwe by people who care. well done Trevor and Ibbo . I rank this interview together with Chief Ntabazinduna as your absolute best.
Well noted... wouldn't you includenProf Arthur Mtambara and Dr Guvamatunhu in there as well?
@JayD212 of course Prof Arthur was passionate and articulate
Informative conversation.
Thank you Trevor for a programme like yours. Professor Mandaza is our gem in the Zim politics.
thank you Ibbo you are a national gem🔥💯 great political discussion
I am watching this for the second time today and each time it's like I am watching for the first time .
This was very eye opening, thank you so much.
First guest never to be asked , where he was born and how he grew up,the schools he went to...etc
Thank you Mr Mandaza for handing in our Petition to SADC chair and Mr Trevor,Thank you for sneefing around for all this information
Thank you Trevor for having Ibbo, the Hero on this platform! And Mr Ibbo Mandaza ,Keep it up , You are a Hero . You are a star
@Prof Mandaza a very sharp mind even at 75. Many great ideas and insight. If only our leadership had these kind of minds as advisors and not the Mutsvangwas and Charambas.
Trevor “said” he was advising but he stepped down.
@@samgidds people like Professor Mandaza give the President advice as official advisors only for him to start perceiving them as enemies, their advice is often taken in pieces therefore ineffective or they are sidelined.
Brilliant and enlightening conversation. Thank you Trevor for inviting Dr Ibbo Mandara.
Much respect to Doctor Ibo Mandaza
Thanx bro Ibbho and Trevor for the conversation
More than a conversation, this is a timely lecture on statecraft and the national consensus. Thanks Trev for allowing us to tap onto the wise owl
Zimbabwe needs such people like you guys! I wish leadership of Zimbabwe has people like you who have their country at hearts!! My heart bleeds .. God must do something... I like your conversation you guys! It's healthy!
What an informative conversation; let's hope things pen out as you gentlemen are suggesting.
Outstanding stuff Trevor. The wisedom that Dr has is exceptional.
Ibbo is a real political analyst worth listening to
Ibbo is a Champion .Head bowed
Eye opening very insightful conversation
Mandaza, you are a champion, you don't take sides when it comes to national issues, nyika ngaizive chokwadi, God bless you.
Trevor thank you for bringing in the professor IBBO Mandaza to the show this is what we need to hear from our elders not this thing of blaming sanctions calling others the western puppets lemme Guys like Tinashe Jonas and Rutendo matinyaeare Maponga
I laughed at the "I was fired through you" statement 😂😂 2 great minds met!
Thank you Trevor 🙌
Brilliant episode very neutral and insightful!
I am impressed by this whole show. The breath and scope is amazing. But as l write, my concern is how to upend my signature on the petition going round.l need to sign it yesterday.
Thanks mukoma Travor for airing your show twice a week I don't know how can I payed back to you .
One of the most informative shows ever broadcast on this channel. Please provide link to sign the petition!!
Thank you for the program
Great staff Dr Ibo
Good wisdom from Ibbo, Trevor gaslighting on Chamisa shows that the guys has some hatred for the young man! Heal Trevor.
Great show thank you Trevor
Insightful conversation.
Inbo, you hv always been hero since the 80’s . Your new title is ‘John the Baptist’ the fore runner. Keep on doing what you are doing. We are listening and following every step of your process 🙏🙏
Very informative views in this platform, thank you Trevor, the world needs to know how politics is being commercialised these regimes that are criminals, toxic to the Nations affected especially Zimbabwe, ZANU PF has continued to be a Military Government.SADC needs to be Firm with its rules as an Organisation for Africa, change needs to be held strongly moving forward to Development, nations are Suffering at the expense of these unfairly contested Elections 😡...
Keep it up Travor i appreciate what you are doing, what a great job.
Good to hear❤
I think we need Part 2 Trevor, we didnt hear much of how Ibboh came to be what he is, his thought process etc
True
Very informative interview… Ibbo Mandaza keep up the good diplomatic work!!!
Very good discussion. What I don’t like Is Trevor’s beef with Chamisa and opposition. It shows how true it is when they say a leopard 🐆 cannot change its skin spots!