Thanks for making this video. Fits my 18 CRV to a T. Have been changing my oil every 3,000 miles to hopefully reduce engine damage. Have 13,000 miles on vehicle now. Oil samples I sent in to get tested came back highly diluted with gasoline. And yes, at 25 below zero you can't keep the windows from freezing up on the inside! Makes the car basically undriveable during Northern winters. Very disappointed in Honda and this is my 4th Honda vehicle. They better come up with a real world decent fix here in the NEAR FUTURE. Been to my dealer and they brushed me off. Not happy. They may have lost a long time loyal customer.
If your window are freezing the problem is not your car...the problem is how you use it. I live in Northern Quebec and I don't have any problem. You have too much humidity inside your car. Remove the snow on your carpet, use your A/C or open a Little bit your window to remove the humidity and you won't have this problem anymore
Have a 2018 Touring with 22,000 miles on it. Most miles have been highway miles. Vehicle runs great (32+ mpg) and no dilution problems. Had recall performed as well. Love the car. Hope the issues are isolated.
Thank you so much for taking the time to be fourth coming about this critical problem. You are doing a very good thing, this is how change is really made.
the martha Focker that guy is a not that wise, and his vehicle is nothing special. Plenty of new vehicles with turbos/hybrid systems with well over 300k miles.
90k miles on my moms crv checked the dipstick noticed the smell of gas in the oil just happened to come across this video today. Cars runs like it’s brand new still zero failures engine runs very smooth.
I have a 2018 EX-L with 10,000 miles and I have no issues. I've done the dipstick test a few times and I do not smell a strong gas smell at all. I've heard that it depends what engine plant the 1.5 T was assembled. There are few throughout the world where this engine is sourced. My engine was assembled in East Liberty, Indiana and my vehicle was assembled at Honda's Ontario, Canada assembly plant. If you kept your window sticker it will tell you where the engine, transmission and final vehicle assembly was.
I have a 2017 crv touring with 58,000 miles on it with no problem. Went through many mountain ranges in the north west with no heating problem and live in Chicago. I do all my own fluid changes myself and never had high oil volume
73,000 miles on my 2017 crv EX-L AWD, I live at 8,000ft been thru the mud and snow only problem I had is my shift button coming out($40) fix with labor, other then that is perfect still.
If you have CR-V LX, you will have 2.4 L engine and probably will not experience the problem EATSLEEPJD had. LX and EX have totally different engine, and I wish the Honda put 2.4 L engines on EX model also. Personally I prefer non-turbo engine.
Well, the EX "turbo" engine driving dynamics feels exactly like my 2003 Toyota Prius V (the biggest Prius) with a 1.8L. At least Toyota was honest about the 1.8L, they did not put a "turbo" on the engine plastic cap. I'm already looking forward to trade in my 2017 CRV-L to the 2019 Mazda CX5 soon.
Thank you for sharing your experience with the new 2018 CRV, I was thinking of buying a 2018 CRV until I watched your video now I'm just going to forget about it until they recall or fix the problems, to those of you who keep saying you've had no issues with your CRVs, are you going to ignore the problem until the warranty is up ? this problem is not going to go away.
Was just about to pull the trigger on a 2018 CRV when I heard about this problem. About a month ago Consumer Reports did an article on this issue. I feel as though I dodged a bullet on this by not purchasing. I'm now waiting on the 2019 Toyota Rav 4. Good luck sincerely to you guys who are having these issues. Hopefully they will do a total recall.
Thanks for sharing your vid.. It's amazing Honda and their dealers know there is an issue but yet they act like they never heard about any such thing. You pay so much money for your car and they just refuse to address these issues and give you piece of mind..
It’s because they don’t know what to do about it. The only real solution is to replace the entire engine with a different model. Once they acknowledge the problem and provide the service to one, they have to foot the bill for millions of expensive engine replacements.
Thank you very much for your detailed video. You saved me from buying a 2017 CR-V. I am in Montreal, Canada - and during our 6 cold months of the year (Oct - April) we have to use heat during driving.
And it's not just 2017, 2018! I bought a new 2016 Honda CR-V TOURING, non Turbo. It had the oil dilution bad. 1 1/2 quarts over top line! Direct injection issue!
It is a serious issue when gas and oil is mixed in the engine, as it will get destroyed, gas smell in the car is a bad safety hazard. Most car companies have issues one or the other with there products these days... bad, hope they see you right and fix the issue
Buy a 4 cylinder Turbo, and this will be the least of your troubles. I would just avoid the CR-V period. We got our grinding noise that occurs at temperatures under 40 degrees F repaired, under warranty, but that is because I know how to find the TSB's and part numbers. Honda seems to have no shame.
I own the Odyssey since 3 years ago and Honda is not able to fix its many problems till today. I, too, want to sell it back to Honda. Honda sucks in terms of ride comfort and control of the vehicle.
SO HERES THE INFO GO LOOK I HAVE A LX CRV IN CANADA AND IM JUST FINE THE ONLY PLACES THAT HAVE ISSUES is the USA AND CHINA NO WHERE Else I. Have asked before I bought in Canada and I was told I was gonna be fine no issues here
Oh man, I just traded my Acura RSX-S this past Saturday for a 2019 CR-V 1.5L AWD, and now looking through oil dilution videos. This is my 3rd day of driving, so I'm gonna smell the oil stick tomorrow morning, the car has 59K miles on it. I'm thinking of getting an oil separator by J&L if this oil dilution to help.
The problem what honda did was that they took out the 2.4 out of production those motors are more better and bulletproof than the 1.5 turbo. I have a 2014 honda crv with 92k on it with no problems I stay away from turbo vehicles
I have 42.000 on my 17 Elantra. Has been flawless. 0 issues of any kind. I just pulled out my dipstick and it right on full, and I dont smell any gas in the oil. 2400 miles since last oil change. My car reaches full normal temp in about 8 minutes of driving in winter.
"at this time there is no issue with the engine" yeah because it will take time to the engine to malfunction and they are hoping these engines won't break until they are out of warranty!
Just don't buy a recent year vehicle with an engine smaller than 2.0 liters, especially not one with a turbo charger. (That's a tur-a bo idea.) ALL of them are recent designs pushed to deliver more power during normal use than ever before, and buyers are the test pilots/guinea pigs.
Checked with a multitude of dealers in our region and not one instance of this have been reported to their dealers. I love my 2018 CR-V and of course, no oil/gas problem. This is a very minimal occurrence problem, otherwise there would have been a government mandated recall, which there has not been. Way overblown. Honda builds a great car!
Last oil change I took my 2018 honda crv lx 2wd in and asked them about this. They told me this is an overseas recall in the turbo charged models.. My dealership advised me if my particular model is recalled for gas in the oil they will notify me and take care of it for me free of charge..
I don't dispute that gas is getting into the oil, and it is a problem. It potentially reduces engine lubrication, creates a small possibility of detonation, and it most certainly violates EPA regulations. HOWEVER, while gasoline it contaminates the oil supply, gasoline does not readily dissolve in oil. Only the tiny amount that can dissolve in the oil is moved to the top of the engine. There is not enough churn in the oil sump for the oil pump to bring a significant amount of the gas to the top of the engine where it might be to be pulled past the rings and burned off. Regarding dipstick tests: You don't check oil level by laying the dipstick down horizontally. Lubricating fluid supply amount iis the most critical measure. When that level is excessive, fluid gets pushed into parts of the engine where it is likely to cause damage. (This can happen with undiluted oil.) If a dipstick is used to test the fluid in a COLD and static engine, the gas will float on top of the oil, just as gas will float above water in a fuel tank. Holding a dipstick horizontally will tell you nothing useful that your nose couldn't. If gas is mixed into the oil and the dipstick is held horizontally, the gas will flow up the stick where oil would not, wetting the surface and encouraging the oil to flow behind it. That negates testing the level. Keep the dipstick vertical. Look for the highest level where fluid has wetted the stick. WIth normal carbon buildup discoloring the oil, the highest level on the stick will be gasoline, the discolored, darker oil will stick to the lower part, giving you an indication of the amount of gasoline in it. If/when that thickness approaches the size of space between the min and max holes, the volume of gas is about 1 quart/liter and VERY dangerous as its evaporation within the engine could easily cause it to ignite and burn. If you suspect that excessive gasoline is being retained in the oil sump, you could encourage its evaporation by removing the oil filler cap each time when the engine is hot and leaving it off for an hour. (I suggest putting i in a baggie and placing it where you cannot miss seeing it each time you start the car). There is a hazard of ignition, so provide passive ventilation by opening the garage doors, or park outside. The stronger the gas odor and the further you can smell it away from the vehicle, the more effectively this is working. If the EPA complains about the air pollution this causes, refer them to Honda.
I have a 2018 CRV EX-L with about 6500 miles and have the fuel odor in the oil when pulling the dipstick. I have noticed the oil level is above the full mark--1/8 to 1/4 of an inch. I live in a warm climate and began smelling the fuel odor back in Sept--well before we had low temps in the 40s like you. I took my CRV into the dealer recently. The tech said he could smell a slight fuel odor when pulling the dipstick, but he had no idea how to resolve. He said they have not had complaints from other owners and have not heard anything about the issue or pending fix from Honda. I don't have the fuel smell in the cabin or the heat up issue. I do wonder if, in your situation, there isn't a problem with the thermostat in you CRV. We've had some cooler weather recently--upper 30's and low 40's--and I see my CRV heating up pretty quickly. I'm reaching 1/4 reading on temp gauge before getting our of our neighborhood driving at 20 MPH (about 2 miles). And at 45 MPH for a couple of miles, my CRV temp is at the 1/2 mark (middle as you indicated). Outside of this issue, I enjoy the CRV too. I hope Honda can resolve soon.
It was a matter of time before Honda would start having problems. Toyota is smart by keeping it simple with non turbo engines. My sister was going to buy a 2018 CRV but has changed her mind for the new 2019 Toyota RAV4.
I have a 2017 CRV and my roommate has a 2018... with over 30k on my 2017 I’ve had ZERO ISSUES since I got the car going on 2 years in December.... my roomy has had ZERO issues either! I stand firm that the CRV is the best midsized SUV on the market!
jaymeal, not every car and the conditions matter. that's the way with many defective autos, some ppl don't have the problem, doesn't meant it isn't real. I would never take the chance on this car until it's worked out. When these cars fail, they fail BIG. And you car shutting off while you are diving kills, yes? Remember the Cobalt?
My mom has one and when it finally does warm up, if u turn heat on right away, it gets cool again. I live in Pennsylvania. Other than that no complaints. I drive a 2015 civic ex. No complaints. Although it does run a little loud when u start it up. But I love it
I have a 2018 EXL and have had no issues so far. I bought it in Summer when we had temperatures in 80s and 90s, now we are in the 40s. I haven’t had the service as yet so I guess I should be checking my dipstick then.
I just traded my 2017 CRV in. I live in Alberta Canada and froze my butt off commuting to work this winter. Always a 30 minute trip and it won’t warm up our stay warm and checked the oil level and it is 1 litre(quart) over full mark. That means a litre of gas in my oil prematurely wearing out engine. I guarantee MOST of the 2017 and 18’s have this problem. I test drove a new 2019 CRV and it still doesn’t warm up. Bought a 2019 Mazda CX-5.
I have the 2017 Civic and 2017 CRV which share the exact same 1.5L engine. 60,000Km on the Civic and 30,000Km on the CRV and so far no issues. There is a recall and they are inspecting them and they have added a 6 year unlimited warranty on some engine parts. If you have an issue with the engine or wheel alignment, be persistent. Honda is a good company and they will fix their problems. Good Luck!
They will. I just got 2 new tires for free from an alignment issue. They need to see and understand the issue fully before they can fix the issue. Your dealer should be your best resource in fixing the issue. Once again, Best of Luck! Cheers! Rob
@@rolandrhoward9361 yup you're correct, every co. has flaws, that's why we stick to toyota they have lesser flaw compare to others. they even had this massive recall because of the SUA but look at them from north america to asia they are still #1 selling brand. boring design underpower but bullet proof reliable. you'll see them on the road where ever you look but you wont see a stalled one or being towed hehe
I encourage you to read this months MotorTrend 2019 Toyota RAV4 vs. Honda CR-V. Essentially, the RAV is junky compared to the Honda in a long list of ways.
EX owner. The temperature gauge: Generally we worry about overheating rather than underheating. Maybe the active grill shutters aren't closing or there is a thermostat problem. Maybe the gauge is wrong. Edit update: months later I noticed for the first time that the gauge line indicates “cold” whereas I just drove the car - and it is 70 F outside! Gas smell: nope. Gas/oil mix: not so far. Starter button: requires three hits sometimes. Auto walk-away door lock: unreliable.
Yeah, cause the shit is made in the USA now and the Japanese's have adopted the American standard of doing business. Made that shit to be broken sooner then later so the consumers will buy another cars. LOL
@@tashinasimpson1927 So does mine and it's a 99' Accord V6 so what's your point? I've had it for12 years and nothing but routine maintenance that is it. All of you Honda haters are the same. That's especially true for you Toyota lovers. Every chance you get you want to take cheap shots at Honda just because one individual doing this video is having a little issue with HIS HONDA so now you want to indicte the whole company? SMH As if Toyota never has any flaws. What about the recall of millions of Toyota Prius models with the brake problems? How about the 6th generation Camry (2007-10) with its major oil consumption issues, not to mention brake pads that wear out prematurely. What about those huh? You Toyota loves never want to talk about Toyotas' miscues but you'd attack the very company that you know deep inside is just as good as your beloved Toyota (IF NOT BETTER) So stop with the BS. Honda makes awesome vehicles and Id pick it over Toyota all day everyday but that's just me. You keep your Toyota and I'll keep my Honda. Honda will be fine. I guess that's why you'll continue to hate on it
2020 CRV, 64,000kms with a blown engine. Honda’s refusing to replace under warranty. $13,000+ for a new engine. THE DILUTION PROBLEM IS NOT FIXED. After being a die hard Honda buyer for 25 years….Buyer beware any of Honda’s 1.5L turbo engines. There will be no more Hondas for this family.
I have been a loyal honda owner since 1991. I will speak with my wallet . The 1.5 is terrible is winter condtions in stop and go driving . Oil dilution is normal, but this is excessive My dealership has changed many engines.
@@josiehensley5705 I believe the engine you are referring to is the 2.4 naturally aspirated which is actually "bigger". It is not avail any more, if it was I'd still be driving a CRV.
Keith, the basic LX does NOT have the same engine all the complaints are about. Yours is NOT a 1.5 turbo. You have the same engine my 14 CRV has, and it has been a super engine.
I’ve had my CRV 2018 for almost a year and I don’t have any problems, the car heats up right away and the heat gauge covers in the middle and stays there. I live in NYC
Thank you for this informational video. I was literally going to pick up a new one tomorrow and as a result of this information I am cancelling my purchase. BIG THANKS!
Here is my 2 cts worth on this shitstorm for honda. I bought a new 2018 Honda CRV touring in late Sept 2018. Since new (just over 5K miles on it) I have had it to the dealer 3 times for the oil dilution issue. I'm in florida now wintering. Honda america REFUSES to deal with the problem. They initially said parts were on order and the latest excuse is they put a hold on them for some unknown reason. We have 7 CRV's in our family - 2 of which have had the fix done and both are still showing the signs of high oil levels. One just broke down on the road while my brother in law was driving from the east of Canada to Arizona. This problem is real, is serious and Honda better soon address it or they are going to lose a LOT of customers.
Since posting my previous comment a few things have transpired. Honda US supplied the part and did the N60 campaign to my vehicle in the local Pinellas county dealership - no charge. It has not diluted the oil any since this was done in late January. As for my brother in laws problem, his vehicles fuel got corrupted by diesel fuel according to a dealership in el paso TX he had it towed to. This is what caused his problems. The gas station company paid his repairs, towing, car rental, etc.
A 2017 touring model cr-v was on my short list of top 3 vehicles I am considering buying. After watching your video I have removed it from my list of considerations. TY for sharing this type of info!
Inexcusable the way Honda has handled this issue. Clearly it is a major design flaw that would cost millions to fix via recall, if even possible without engine rebuild or swap. So they come up with 'it's highly efficient' nonsense and that you should drive more, smell/check/change oil frequently. You folks need to collectively pressure Honda just as China did. Any car in this climate should heat quickly to operating temp in minutes, and NOT dump unburnt fuel into the crank case doing it. 'Efficient' my eye, take customers for fools.
Mark Reynolds I agree. I wonder what this new fix they are coming up with. I hope it’s not something bandaid temp fix till 100k then the engine blow up.
Just bought a 2019 EX. Love it. No making oil or slow warm up noted. Have your dealer throw on a new temp. gauge. I live in the desert and wish my car did not ever get really hot! You could verify the temp. problems with a OBD-II plugin device.
You may want to consider a Mazda CX-5 or Toyota RAV4. I had the 1.5t Civic (Canadian, in one of the coldest parts) and mine had trouble warming up and I always smelled gas. I am a long time Honda fan but I was so disappointed I had to get rid of it, glad I did before this came out. I got a Mazda 6 and I love it, it's got the Japanese build quality and reliability I was looking for, plus it's a great driving and handling car and it's really efficient!
I have a 2017 civic si and after watching this video I just went to check my oil level and odor. It does have some gas odor to it but no noticeable increase in oil levels. I do know that one drawback of having a direct injected engine is that there will be a tinge of fuel odor in the oil, as the injectors are spraying directly into the combustion chamber on top of the pistons, so it is normal for some fuel to mix with the oil. However, if it's excessive as you're stating then there may be more of an issue at hand
The 2.4 liter non turbo I have hasn’t had any problems but some say they do , but I researched The CRV and decided against the 1.5 turbo it’s too small an engine and they tried to control engine turbo temperature by computer and some aren’t working..
tom wright The 2.4 seems to be a safe bet so far. No turbo in the mix to make things worse. Couple of people here and there say they have issue with 2.4 but nothing solid.
Love Honda and had 1990 Accord, 2001 Civics and now driving 2008 Civics. Looking for an SUV for my next vehicle to drive. Was thinking of getting the CR-V or RV4. After reading online and being more informative I am starting to lean toward the 2019 RV4. Thank you for posting and I hope Honda are reading this.
I’ve been leasing a 2016 civic for about 3 years and always assumed the gas smell was coming from outside until this issue. I nearly bought a 2018 CR-V back in July but the sales manager was playing games. I was pissed at the time but I’m glad I didn’t pull the trigger.
Have a 2018 CRV LX 135k miles. The only issue I’ve had is a leaking valve cover gasket which I’m doing this weekend. When I change the oil, I do smell the gas. No other issues though.
The heat issue is that the cooling system is too good. I have a 2017 ex-l 1.5t. The oil serves the turbo and engine. And then you have a huge radiator and also a secondary cooler for the turbo. An oversized water pump and a ridiculously large heater core. The engine cannot produce enough heat at idle to heat all that water up before its cooled again. I live in Houston so it's not that big of a deal for me. I have not how ever had the oil dilution issue. With about 8k miles on it bought a week after Harvey.
exactly our 2011 civic is the same it takes forever to heat it up and in the winter vyou turn the heat on and the temp gauge drops in front of your eye's
FYI all not everyone has this issue I have 2017 HONDA CRV and Live in a cold climate ( MICHIGAN) with no oil dilution issue or gas smell. There is a fix I received a letter in the mail a week ago for a software update and a/c control unit replacement I believe for the heat issue. They did change my oil which was part of the recall. I am not saying people are not experiencing issues. I do feel for those people because I have had FORDS where I felt I lived-in the dealership and it is a huge inconvenience to have to take the vehicle in to be told there is nothing wrong. But I hope some of the information I have pointed out helps.
Honda sent a letter out. They are extending the warranty for this issue to 6 years unlimited mileage. And they are tweaking the engine and changing some parts to help. I got this letter in mail last week.
I have a ‘17 with 12k miles. Live in central Texas. Have not had any temp problem, nor smelled any gas on dipstick but oil level has been high. Love the car (my 3rd Honda) and hope Honda has this problem fixed.
EATSLEEPJD yes. Just watched a pretty good video here by an Aussie “autoexpert” I think was his ID. He made a convincing argument that the mixing is inevitable and it’s effects are engineered into the car. I’ve had very good success with Honda and I’ll trust their engineering till it lets me down. As to your heating problem, I haven’t paid a lot of attention to my water temp gage but never experienced any shortcoming. Had plenty of heat soon after starting engine even in below 20’ weather.
My experience and 5 of my friends who have 017's 0'18's and 019's, all of us with zero problems and my dealer has had zero problems from any of their customers cars.
I went to the dealer in Davenport after I opened a case number and they directed me to try this (other) dealer to see if they can fix the problem. I bought a 2019 in February of that year and it has the same problem. I teach Mechanical Engineering and one of the many subjects is journal bearings (which float on a film of oil) and oil viscosity. I do not buy the idea that the engine was designed to allow oil dilution by gas. I've submitted oil samples for analysis and the latest one came back with more than 5% gas in the oil and the cryptic note "Moderately low viscosity, recommend checking for bad injectors and changing oil". Both dealers stated "our hands are tied, we can't do anything". The latest dealer said, "Did you watch the video (meaning this one), you need to watch this video". Well I think he gave me the wrong video to watch since it does not help their case. The dealer gave me a courtesy oil change 700 miles ago and it's now at the same level as this video. Folks, they are hornswageling us with their "Oh, it's designed this way". This latest service manager told me that until the level on the dipstick gets about 1.5 inches above the plastic, it's not a problem. Horse manure. It's simply a very poor design and the engine will suffer accelerated wear and/or damage.
William Pratt Yes I bought a 2019 last February as well. I noticed that my garage would smell like fresh gasoline whenever I’d park. I thought it was the lawnmower but realized the smell was coming from under the hood. I’ve had the vehicle at my Honda dealership twice telling them that the smell of gas is extremely strong and the dip stick smells like pure gasoline. They’ve told me nothing is wrong. Incredibly frustrating. I never ran across any articles regarding the dilution problem when I was doing research on which vehicle to purchase. Now there are tons of articles. It gives you a weird feeling when someone looks you in the eye and tells you “everything is fine” when you know for certain that they are lying. This is what the Honda service people are doing as well as the Honda corporate heads. Really sad.
@@shocksemler8145 You have my sympathy. The mechanic even told me that they couldn't pull the injectors to check them to see if one was faulty because "it's a direct injection". At that point a lesson on diesel engines and injectors and how they were not cast into the head, etc. was pointless because it was obvious he was spouting the party line. He even had the gall to tell me that "until the oil level got 1.5 inches above the add mark, there was no chance of damage." WOW! If you figure the area of the oil pan (I haven't measured it) is at least 6"x12" then that represents more than 1.5 quarts of gas for a 3.7 quart oil volume or about 30% gas. At greater than 5% my oil was below the minimum viscosity! My strategy now is to continue monitoring the oil with Blackstone and Shell oil analysis every 1000 miles on this oil change and document it, send it to the company under my case number and demand a no-cost extension of the engine warranty. I like the car other than that but Honda has a real problem with this engine. Consumer Report has an even bigger problem since I select the Honda based on their recommendation and did not find the cleverly hidden "but..." in another area. How can you recommend a vehicle with this level of issues?
William Pratt Have you checked into the lemon law in your state? I’m in Texas and you have to take your vehicle in for the same issue 2x within the first year you own it and of course have documentation that you did it and that the “problem “ was not fixed. I tried to get the service advisor to write on the paperwork that they were unable to fix the problem but he wouldn’t do it because he said no problem was found ( of course). I asked to speak to his supervisor and he told me that he had been a mechanic for 20 years and that these “fuel injection engines will have some gasoline in the oil”. Oh my gosh I had to control my anger. I told him I disagreed and that something is very wrong and he just said “ I’m sorry”. My cousin works on all his vehicles. He never takes them to a mechanic and he also told me that this should not be happening. Anyway I’m going to talk to an attorney to see if the lemon law would apply in this case. I’m sorry you’re having to deal with this as well. I’m sorry for everyone.
@@shocksemler8145 Same reply. Same essential law. Thanks for the heads-up. "Nothing to see here folks, move along" type of reply. For a Mechanical Engineer it's galling!
Do not buy a 2019. 2019 Manual Under certain driving conditions, it is normal for the engine oil level to rise above the upper mark. If you have a concern, consult a dealer for details
Thank you so much!! My 2014 CR-V got totaled and wanted to replace with a newer version, but I'm not comfortable with the new engine choice and the oil dilution problem. I'm not gonna sink money into a truck that will fail me down the road. These new turbo engines are the death of worry free reliability. I guess I'll have to go smaller with a new HR-V so I can get a basic 4 cylinder engine because I can't to a 6 cylinder, too much gas. I can't imagine how cold wife and I would be inside this truck during the cold Chicago winters, where its becoming more common to hit negative temperatures!
i have 2016 crv which 2.4 engine..less of an issue but its dgi and so they all have a degree of a problem..the turbo 1.5 is the worst...they say it helps to use a high octane fuel instead of regular..and changing oil more.
I live in Central Ontario in Canada...No heating problem with my 1.5 litre engine...Has 41,000 kms on it or about 25,000 miles no problems yet..get great gas mileage....This may of been a problem coming out of the Ohio Honda plant where yours was probably built..Mine was built in Alliston Ontario Canada....I am wondering if it could be the US plant got a bad batch of valve seals from a supplier.......I would like to hear from any owners of the Canadian made CRV's to see if they have this problem...Its going to be expensive for Honda no doubt...
So far I havn't heard of any owners up here with the problem but what is the fix...I know a few owners and we are now aware of the problem as we have watched your video's and others....
@@ontarioobserver1287 there are 5 CRV's in my family alone. 2 brother in laws both have this issue fixed in Canada. I'm in florida having it done as I type this. Honda Canada sent the dealer the instruction PUB N60 documenting the fix procedure. Ask you dealer to do the same.
@@ontarioobserver1287 Here goes: (from the Honda PUB N60) "This product update includes software updates to the PGM-FI, CVT and climate control systems to limit oil dilution by modifying fuel injection parameters and improving the speed of engine warm up. The climate control system update is a replacement of the A/C control unit. Includes no charge 6 year warranty automatically on the engine." I have to wait for parts to arrive for the full fix on mine...just did oil change. Honda Canada were VERY helpful in assisting getting it done. KUDOS to them.
I just had mine "fixed" today. It did not fix the problem at all! I still cannot get any heat. I live in New Brunswick Canada where it is cold in November. Honda I'm not happy! We bought our 2018 CRV in September and I noticed the problem almost immediately. I'm taking it back to the dealership tomorrow. Had we known this was an issue, we would never have purchased it. We are Honda people and have never had any issues before. But I think their employees are trained in downplaying the problem.
Yes sir. Had I had the 1.5T Civic last fall, I would have had a massive fit over this mess. Glad as all get out that I have the 2.0 NA. I REALLY think Honda screwed up by going with DI Turbos on so many cars. We will be keeping our 2010 CRV with the 2.4 NA till the wheels fall off. I am pretty sure that without a MASSIVE mea culpa from Honda, I am never going to buy a turbo/DI from them. If that means going to something like the new Passport that was announced today or jumping to Toyota, then so be it. Oh and Hi there fellow New Brunswicker!
@Jason Price I have the same view: DI only engines have inherent design flaw, mainly carbon buildup on the inlet valves. The fuel and oil fix is another issue because DI uses much higher pressure for injecting fuel directly into the cylinders. Some fuel will inevitably get passed through the piston rings thus mixed with engine oil.
I have a 2017 Honda CRV and have the same issues. I even have an oil leaked from the cylinder head gasket,a gas smells inside the cabin...i mean its a brandnew car...so disappointed buying this car...
I have a 2020 Honda CR-V and I was assured that this has not been an issue in Canada since 2017. Since there is so many people still Terrified about it I thought I would do the exact same test and compare results with your 2018 and my 2016 CR-V which I just traded in. The shortest drive I would ever take is early in the morning about a mile from my home. I’m in Canada and I’ll do some conversion here but basically this would be typical for any Mom or Dad taking their kid to school in the morning. It’s about a mile each way. I’m a little sensitive to this since I had a similar problem with a Toyota Sienna and Plymouth Acclaim in the past. Prior to driving I warmed up the car for more than 5 minutes then drove. It was 35 degrees Fahrenheit, so much colder than you but mild for February in Canada or the Northern US. By the time I arrived at the school it was about 1/4 warm and when I got home it was 1/2. In comparison to my 2016 it would have still been at 1/4 same with any car previous I have ever driven or owned. In comparison to your 2018 it was definitely better as well but what I will say is your test did not seem typical. It seemed that you never went above 30mph or 1,500rpm. That’s definitely not typical. When you were idling it was at 1,000rpm, at a stop sign 800 and driving only 1,500. In my experience you need to get to 2,000rpm for the car to warm up completely and begin to evaporate the gasoline. Let me touch on my Acclaim though, it began stalling while idling due to the fuel injector flooding the engine with gas. I had to get a new alternator and electrical component replaced to fix the issue. It could still stall if too much gas got in the engine by revving the engine prior to driving. This was typical at the time since prior to fuel injection engines needed this to warm up properly before driving. If you live in a cold weather climate you know cars can be very slow in extreme cold conditions if they don’t warm up properly. If you are in a hurry you’ll feel the performance issues if you just start driving. I feel like in this case my 2020 will not have the same issue, it warms up real fast compared to my 2016 or the 2017-2018 engines. We make Civic, CR-V locally here and Honda has done a lot to customize the Canadian product for the environment. The worst Toyota I ever had was built in Atlanta, prior to that they were built in Japan and recently they are built locally here and also built for the Canadian environment. That has a lot to do with it, getting a product that works great in Texas may not have been designed for Alaska or some other colder climate. Honda obviously has fixed the issue but I’m sure other manufacturers will struggle with the same issue, also controlling emissions has something to do with it too, related to the global climate warming issue
Shame on HONDA. If you look at CRV Owners website this has been going on for 2 years and they are letting customers go on damaging their engines with diluted oil. To lie to customers and not acknowledge is reprehensible.There is class action lawsuits and there should be buy backs of the vehicles.
Hey I have a 2018 crv ex I notice that when I turn on my car it takes ten minutes to rise but as soon as I start driving within minutes it comes up to the normal temperature and I have now 11k on my car I’m from New York
Today’s modern cars don’t need to really warm up the engines that long anymore. A few second idling is enough & drive slow for a few minutes & the temps will start rising,
I wanted to buy this car but also ran into all these complaints and so glad I didn't. I asked the dealership about it and they played dumb. The one girl was such a bad liar too! Good luck man, i'm hoping it gets fixed for you. I'm holding out for the new Rav4 or Forester now.
I almost brought the CRV. Me and my wife test drove one ( on Oct 29th 2018 ) and fell in love with it. We had the contract already written out. We were just trying to renegotiate the interest rate. It got late ( 9 pm ) and they told us to come back tomorrow. When me and my wife got home, we researched the CRV, and came across the gas in the oil issues. This was a deal killer for us. We went back to Honda, and told them that we were going to walk away from this deal. I told them what we had found out. They told me that they never heard of this issue. I find this hard to believe base on all the reviews news reports, and the NTSB National transportation safety Board investigating this issue. Even China did a Stop Sale on the CRV this year. Me and my wife look at other Crossovers vehicles Equinox, Rouge ETC. All the other Dealerships had all the new 2019 out. But Honda had a ton of 2018 CRV and not one 2019 CRV. They had all the other 2019 models out like the Accord, Civic etc. so when I follow up on this. Honda has delayed the release of the 2019 CRV because it has the same engine. No release date has been set for the 2019 CRV. Im just glad we did not buy the CRV. We ended up buying the 2019 Chevy Equinox on Oct 31 2018. P.S... Many Mechanics online say. Unscrew your oil cap ( were you fill your oil )... take your cap and walk away from your CRV or going inside your house, and smell your oil cap. If you smell gas. You have a major issue.
Agent2Ten I hope Honda reads this. It’s a nice vehicle. Not everyone has this issue. Hope you are happy with your new purchase. Per Honda when the 19 comes out it will have the fix already applied.
Something is dead wrong. Oil and gas mixing sounds like they designed this car as a 2 stroke weed wackier engine 😜. They are saying a software update will fix this but don't believe it. There is a design issue here. Gas in the oil Pan means something is seriously up with seals or fuel injector intake
From what I have read online from other CRV owners. Is this oil in gas issue can show up slowly over a year or quickly within the first 2000 miles. Nobody knows how long the engine on the CRV will last. 3 or 4 or 6 years or more. But can you imagine an owner of a 4 year old CRV that had no issues before, but will 3 years from now. The owner would be out of their 3 years or 36,000 mile warranty. He/ She can only pray for a recall then.
Agent2Ten so sad. I am driving my original naturally aspirated 2009 Hinda CRV EX with absolutely no issues. I was strongly considering this new one but no way now. Even if it's fixed I don't think the engine was designed by Hondas old school methodology of reliability. vTEC and iVtec naturally aspirated are the way to go here
One way to avoid is to warm up your car. Getting the engine temperature high can prevent the high fuel pressure from leaking past the piston ring. As the ring will expand with temperature rise and better seal. Also warming at idle reduces fuel in the cylinder because at low rpm fuel is released in small amounts. I suspect people with lead foot and no patience to warm up the car are more familiar with this problem.
Thanks for the post. Sorry about your trouble with your CRV. Hope you get a proper resolution soon. I’m concerned. Although my 2018 Civic EX-T has a 1.5 turbo, I read that Honda uses a slightly different variation from the CRV in North America. However, the fundamental design is the same. I don’t drive the car much (only 1,800 miles after four months ownership). I already changed the oil after three months. I’ll be keeping an eye on my oil.
What you got to do since it's a turbo, you just got to accelerate mad hard let the turbo kick in and burn the excess fuel in the engine. Basically stop driving like a old man! It's good to push the car to the limit and clean the system up. You getting 33mpg for a reason old man. You should off gotten a 2.4litter engine. It for old people... 1.5litter is for people that want to have fun from time to time. Once you accelerate hard your engine will stay warm...
Buffalo cookies - I am getting 36 mpg on my 2017 CRV - I drive it gently and have no issues. Car heats up normally and quickly. I have 21,000+ miles...no problems.
Thanks for the video. I want to buy a Honda CR-V 2017-2018, but after I saw your video, I think I will change my mind. I live in Canada and in the winter with those issues, that you show me with the water and oil, it is not a good idea to buy a CR-V. Thank you so much.
I have the same issue. I live in Pennsylvania. The “fix” did nothing for the problems. The Engine oil reeks of petrol and oil levels are 1/2 inch above high mark. Cabin smells like petrol. Multiple oil leaks. All dealerships are thieves- they accepted oil level was high. They did not perform any oil any analysis, but they said it had an acceptable amount of petroleum in it. Honda is the one pushing back making the dealerships say this is normal. If you experience this, then document it by filing it or taking pics and please post complaints on NHTSA.
Get rid of it, engine that is not running at proper operating temperature will wear out quicker. Wait till Toyota releases new RAV4 and trade in for that.
Our 18 CRV has about 6,000 miles. I roughly compared it to yours this morning. It’s 45 degrees here, I let it idle 30 seconds or so and set climate to 70 degrees, then I drove the street about a mile to 7 eleven. About 1/2 way there, the heater fan started to ramp up. When I got there I could feel some warm blowing at the floor vent. Temp gauge hadn’t moved up yet. Turned it off and went in the store. Maybe 3 minutes later, started back up and went home, the same mile or so. By the time I got home, temp gauge was 2-3 clicks up and heat was blowing pretty warm. This amount of time and driving all seems on par with my Chevy van and our suburban. For our CRV hopefully we don’t have a problem. The small engine size shouldn’t matter with a properly operating cooling system. I’ll suggest possibly you have a bad thermostat or other abnormal engine cooling system issues preventing it from warming up properly as designed from the factory and to look there
I smelled and it did smell gassy and over full. I had the wife take it to the dealer yesterday so my complaint was on record. They said gassy smell wasn’t the oil but rather something else near the valve cover hole lol. She didn’t question that statement sheesh. They did at least change oil and filter free, and washed it, yay. So now I have a new oil level reference mark at least, to keep an eye on it.
I have high disdain for that no-account Honda corporate spokesperson. He is totally useless. My guess is he is an MBA that doesn’t know the difference between a pile of crap and a pile of burnt beans. Honda this is shameful !!!
I'm honestly really curious how well the new "fix" will help things. I would also like to know why it's so much worse on the CR-V that the Civic and especially the Accord. I love Honda still, but this is just ridiculous.
I have this car 1.5 Turbo version, 40k km, bought new in 2017, no problems at all in Peru. But, I had to make the oil changes on my own because my dealer shop was using burnt oil. Fortunately we found out with a simple test in the lab, my dad is a chemical engineer and we just took the car and never returned to Fastlane Honda dealer shops.
Yeah my neighbour have a 2017 Honda CR-V EX, and he checked his oil and he saw that it was supposed to be at the first line which means full, and the oil was almost double, so he asked me if I know something about that and I took a look and yes it was almost double the oil level, we leave in Canada, which means yes the oil dilution is even worse because of the cold temperatures -21c -28c 🤷🏻♂️, I was about to buy a 2019 Honda CR-V touring and I did really like it but after seeing this I end up with a 2017 accord touring V6, I preferred the V6 over the new 2.0T accord 😅
Tell your neighbor they actually did a technical service bulletin for the Canadian owners. You can take it in and they change some parts and give you free oil change.
Thank you so much for doing this video. Definitely stopped me from buying a honda, which I planned on doing this weekend.
Honda at one point had one of the best heating systems. I have 2013. Now they are worst. Look into Buick. Very reliable. JD power. Or suburu
Thanks for making this video. Fits my 18 CRV to a T. Have been changing my oil every 3,000 miles to hopefully reduce engine damage. Have 13,000 miles on vehicle now. Oil samples I sent in to get tested came back highly diluted with gasoline. And yes, at 25 below zero you can't keep the windows from freezing up on the inside! Makes the car basically undriveable during Northern winters. Very disappointed in Honda and this is my 4th Honda vehicle. They better come up with a real world decent fix here in the NEAR FUTURE. Been to my dealer and they brushed me off. Not happy. They may have lost a long time loyal customer.
If your window are freezing the problem is not your car...the problem is how you use it. I live in Northern Quebec and I don't have any problem. You have too much humidity inside your car. Remove the snow on your carpet, use your A/C or open a Little bit your window to remove the humidity and you won't have this problem anymore
Do you have the 1.5L? Supposedly this problem doesn’t show up in 2.4L models. ??
Have a 2018 Touring with 22,000 miles on it. Most miles have been highway miles. Vehicle runs great (32+ mpg) and no dilution problems. Had recall performed as well. Love the car. Hope the issues are isolated.
18 CRV with the 1.5T . 68k miles . Recall done . Haven’t had a single issue since . drove from NY to Mrtyle Beach the other day . Love my crv.
Thank you so much for taking the time to be fourth coming about this critical problem. You are doing a very good thing, this is how change is really made.
I've had this car for 10 months now. not one issue so far.
You need to buy Scott Kilmer 's Toyota Celica.
Haha Scotty boy thinks Honda is more reliable than Toyota tho.
EATSLEEPJD....are you on drug? Where in the post does it mention Scotty fans think Honda is more reliable. Toyota is the way to go.
the martha Focker go watch his video about who makes better engine. That’s what I was referring to.
Yeah! His old Celica does not used any oil.
the martha Focker that guy is a not that wise, and his vehicle is nothing special. Plenty of new vehicles with turbos/hybrid systems with well over 300k miles.
90k miles on my moms crv checked the dipstick noticed the smell of gas in the oil just happened to come across this video today. Cars runs like it’s brand new still zero failures engine runs very smooth.
I have a 2018 Honda CRV EXL, no issues at all, hope it remains the same.
My temperature gauge doesn't show bars. It is just a solid white line. No problems with it.
I own EXL and just love the car. Hit 27,000 miles and runs like a champ. Will check the oil to see if I smell gasoline.
Victor Rendon yesterday the control screen went blank and I couldn’t adjust the radio or anything. I restarted and it was fine. I bit of a worry.
I have a 2018 EX-L with 10,000 miles and I have no issues. I've done the dipstick test a few times and I do not smell a strong gas smell at all. I've heard that it depends what engine plant the 1.5 T was assembled. There are few throughout the world where this engine is sourced. My engine was assembled in East Liberty, Indiana and my vehicle was assembled at Honda's Ontario, Canada assembly plant. If you kept your window sticker it will tell you where the engine, transmission and final vehicle assembly was.
This engine won't last, turbo technology the engines won't last
I have a 2017 crv touring with 58,000 miles on it with no problem. Went through many mountain ranges in the north west with no heating problem and live in Chicago. I do all my own fluid changes myself and never had high oil volume
Same with me - 21,000 miles on my 2017 CRV Touring - and great gas mileage...36 mpg with combined city/highway miles
Richard Ren the Japanese have been using very light weight oil to cheat the EPA fuel economy standards for most of this decade.
rjfvette Chicago 😈
73,000 miles on my 2017 crv EX-L AWD, I live at 8,000ft been thru the mud and snow only problem I had is my shift button coming out($40) fix with labor, other then that is perfect still.
@@normt5463 I doubt Harley does. 36 mpg combined he says.
I have a 1999 honda CRV with no problems at all..classic always wins!
I have a 2017 and have not had any of the problems mentioned here yet. I live in New England. So far so good.
If you have CR-V LX, you will have 2.4 L engine and probably will not experience the problem EATSLEEPJD had.
LX and EX have totally different engine, and I wish the Honda put 2.4 L engines on EX model also.
Personally I prefer non-turbo engine.
Well, the EX "turbo" engine driving dynamics feels exactly like my 2003 Toyota Prius V (the biggest Prius) with a 1.8L. At least Toyota was honest about the 1.8L, they did not put a "turbo" on the engine plastic cap. I'm already looking forward to trade in my 2017 CRV-L to the 2019 Mazda CX5 soon.
Jonthan Lee People with LX also reported oil dilution.
Randy Jackson ya but the 2.4 on CRV is direct ingestion. It doesn’t have the heat gauge issue.
Here in Canada the lx also come with the small turbo engine, thats probably you will see complains for the lx too.
@@martincloutier666 just curious, since when did an lx in Canada come with a small turbo engine? Not sure about that.
Thank you for sharing your experience with the new 2018 CRV, I was thinking of buying a 2018 CRV until I watched your video now I'm just going to forget about it until they recall or fix the problems, to those of you who keep saying you've had no issues with your CRVs, are you going to ignore the problem until the warranty is up ? this problem is not going to go away.
somebody not taking responsibility........ I love Honda so much I'm so disappointed in them so much for reliability
Sorry to hear that. I have a 2006 Honda Ridgline RTL with 190,000 miles on it. Best vehicle I have owned. It still drives like new.
I own a 2017 Honda CR-V EX-L with Navi and it runs completely fine for me and it has 10k miles
Was just about to pull the trigger on a 2018 CRV when I heard about this problem. About a month ago Consumer Reports did an article on this issue. I feel as though I dodged a bullet on this by not purchasing. I'm now waiting on the 2019 Toyota Rav 4. Good luck sincerely to you guys who are having these issues. Hopefully they will do a total recall.
Check out the Mazda CX-5 as well. Very good reliability and it has a turbo 4 option now.
Thanks for sharing your vid.. It's amazing Honda and their dealers know there is an issue but yet they act like they never heard about any such thing. You pay so much money for your car and they just refuse to address these issues and give you piece of mind..
It’s because they don’t know what to do about it. The only real solution is to replace the entire engine with a different model. Once they acknowledge the problem and provide the service to one, they have to foot the bill for millions of expensive engine replacements.
Thank you very much for your detailed video. You saved me from buying a 2017 CR-V.
I am in Montreal, Canada - and during our 6 cold months of the year (Oct - April) we have to use heat during driving.
I have few more videos on the issue. The 2019 and 2020 CRV’s should be fine to get.
And it's not just 2017, 2018! I bought a new 2016 Honda CR-V TOURING, non Turbo. It had the oil dilution bad. 1 1/2 quarts over top line! Direct injection issue!
It is a serious issue when gas and oil is mixed in the engine, as it will get destroyed, gas smell in the car is a bad safety hazard. Most car companies have issues one or the other with there products these days... bad, hope they see you right and fix the issue
Simple solution, eliminate the gasoline engine from the design and no more gas odor.
Buy a 4 cylinder Turbo, and this will be the least of your troubles. I would just avoid the CR-V period. We got our grinding noise that occurs at temperatures under 40 degrees F repaired, under warranty, but that is because I know how to find the TSB's and part numbers. Honda seems to have no shame.
A friend with one of these just won his case with Honda. They bought it back under the lemon law.
I own the Odyssey since 3 years ago and Honda is not able to fix its many problems till today. I, too, want to sell it back to Honda. Honda sucks in terms of ride comfort and control of the vehicle.
Gonna love the lemon law. Wish we have that here in Canada.
Miki W what state?
@@livefreeordiehard8898 we do
SO HERES THE INFO GO LOOK I HAVE A LX CRV IN CANADA AND IM JUST FINE THE ONLY PLACES THAT HAVE ISSUES is the USA AND CHINA NO WHERE Else I. Have asked before I bought in Canada and I was told I was gonna be fine no issues here
Remember when Honda actually made reliable vehicles?
Any honda with a v6 i trust.
They are still more reliable than any other American car manufacturers out there
Oh man, I just traded my Acura RSX-S this past Saturday for a 2019 CR-V 1.5L AWD, and now looking through oil dilution videos. This is my 3rd day of driving, so I'm gonna smell the oil stick tomorrow morning, the car has 59K miles on it. I'm thinking of getting an oil separator by J&L if this oil dilution to help.
The problem what honda did was that they took out the 2.4 out of production those motors are more better and bulletproof than the 1.5 turbo. I have a 2014 honda crv with 92k on it with no problems I stay away from turbo vehicles
I have 42.000 on my 17 Elantra. Has been flawless. 0 issues of any kind. I just pulled out my dipstick and it right on full, and I dont smell any gas in the oil. 2400 miles since last oil change. My car reaches full normal temp in about 8 minutes of driving in winter.
"at this time there is no issue with the engine" yeah because it will take time to the engine to malfunction and they are hoping these engines won't break until they are out of warranty!
Vin Ramirez that’s exactly what they want !!!
New Rav4 with naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engine is coming out soon
Personally, I would not buy a 2017, 2018 or 2019 Honda CRV until this problem is addressed by the manufacture.
buy American cars. Support Republican.
Just don't buy a recent year vehicle with an engine smaller than 2.0 liters, especially not one with a turbo charger. (That's a tur-a bo idea.) ALL of them are recent designs pushed to deliver more power during normal use than ever before, and buyers are the test pilots/guinea pigs.
the 2019 is updated.
@@louisahren5967 Ford makes "American" cars in Mexico. GM makes "American" cars in Australia. Ford/GM/Chrysler all make "American" cars in Canada.
Checked with a multitude of dealers in our region and not one instance of this have been reported to their dealers. I love my 2018 CR-V and of course, no oil/gas problem. This is a very minimal occurrence problem, otherwise there would have been a government mandated recall, which there has not been. Way overblown. Honda builds a great car!
They are getting really good at avoiding serious issues. I had to look at TSB's to get a grinding noise taken care of on cold start up's.
“Operating as designed” that’s what they said about my Acura clunky transmission
Last oil change I took my 2018 honda crv lx 2wd in and asked them about this.
They told me this is an overseas recall in the turbo charged models..
My dealership advised me if my particular model is recalled for gas in the oil they will notify me and take care of it for me free of charge..
Ive sold 2017 and 2018 crvs and they have not comback with no issues. Im in California.
I don't dispute that gas is getting into the oil, and it is a problem. It potentially reduces engine lubrication, creates a small possibility of detonation, and it most certainly violates EPA regulations.
HOWEVER, while gasoline it contaminates the oil supply, gasoline does not readily dissolve in oil. Only the tiny amount that can dissolve in the oil is moved to the top of the engine. There is not enough churn in the oil sump for the oil pump to bring a significant amount of the gas to the top of the engine where it might be to be pulled past the rings and burned off.
Regarding dipstick tests:
You don't check oil level by laying the dipstick down horizontally. Lubricating fluid supply amount iis the most critical measure. When that level is excessive, fluid gets pushed into parts of the engine where it is likely to cause damage. (This can happen with undiluted oil.)
If a dipstick is used to test the fluid in a COLD and static engine, the gas will float on top of the oil, just as gas will float above water in a fuel tank.
Holding a dipstick horizontally will tell you nothing useful that your nose couldn't. If gas is mixed into the oil and the dipstick is held horizontally, the gas will flow up the stick where oil would not, wetting the surface and encouraging the oil to flow behind it. That negates testing the level.
Keep the dipstick vertical. Look for the highest level where fluid has wetted the stick. WIth normal carbon buildup discoloring the oil, the highest level on the stick will be gasoline, the discolored, darker oil will stick to the lower part, giving you an indication of the amount of gasoline in it. If/when that thickness approaches the size of space between the min and max holes, the volume of gas is about 1 quart/liter and VERY dangerous as its evaporation within the engine could easily cause it to ignite and burn.
If you suspect that excessive gasoline is being retained in the oil sump, you could encourage its evaporation by removing the oil filler cap each time when the engine is hot and leaving it off for an hour. (I suggest putting i in a baggie and placing it where you cannot miss seeing it each time you start the car). There is a hazard of ignition, so provide passive ventilation by opening the garage doors, or park outside. The stronger the gas odor and the further you can smell it away from the vehicle, the more effectively this is working. If the EPA complains about the air pollution this causes, refer them to Honda.
A dealer once told me that the first model of a new generation usually has a lot of problems that might be fixed by the third model.
Thanks for posting. This problem is affecting the 1.5 L Turbo engines, right?
I have the 2017 2.4 L 4 cylinder with NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER.
I have a 2018 CRV EX-L with about 6500 miles and have the fuel odor in the oil when pulling the dipstick. I have noticed the oil level is above the full mark--1/8 to 1/4 of an inch. I live in a warm climate and began smelling the fuel odor back in Sept--well before we had low temps in the 40s like you.
I took my CRV into the dealer recently. The tech said he could smell a slight fuel odor when pulling the dipstick, but he had no idea how to resolve. He said they have not had complaints from other owners and have not heard anything about the issue or pending fix from Honda.
I don't have the fuel smell in the cabin or the heat up issue. I do wonder if, in your situation, there isn't a problem with the thermostat in you CRV. We've had some cooler weather recently--upper 30's and low 40's--and I see my CRV heating up pretty quickly. I'm reaching 1/4 reading on temp gauge before getting our of our neighborhood driving at 20 MPH (about 2 miles). And at 45 MPH for a couple of miles, my CRV temp is at the 1/2 mark (middle as you indicated).
Outside of this issue, I enjoy the CRV too. I hope Honda can resolve soon.
Jamie Pearson what part of the country are you in?
@@EATSLEEPJD I'm in southeast, so similar climate as you. Definitely not a cold climate area.
It was a matter of time before Honda would start having problems. Toyota is smart by keeping it simple with non turbo engines. My sister was going to buy a 2018 CRV but has changed her mind for the new 2019 Toyota RAV4.
I have a 2017 CRV and my roommate has a 2018... with over 30k on my 2017 I’ve had ZERO ISSUES since I got the car going on 2 years in December.... my roomy has had ZERO issues either! I stand firm that the CRV is the best midsized SUV on the market!
jaymeal123 not everyone has this issue.
jaymeal= after watching this i am buying a toyota==the 2019 crv has the same problems===!
tom johns 2019 will come with fix according to Honda.
eatsleep=i am going to buy a toyota after watching this but honda is taking their time in fixing this issue !
jaymeal, not every car and the conditions matter. that's the way with many defective autos, some ppl don't have the problem, doesn't meant it isn't real. I would never take the chance on this car until it's worked out. When these cars fail, they fail BIG. And you car shutting off while you are diving kills, yes? Remember the Cobalt?
My mom has one and when it finally does warm up, if u turn heat on right away, it gets cool again. I live in Pennsylvania. Other than that no complaints. I drive a 2015 civic ex. No complaints. Although it does run a little loud when u start it up. But I love it
The only issue that i got from my 17 CRV EX is the shifter knob. Apparently it's common in the 17 and I'm already at 34k.
Thanks for review I was between Crv and rav4 .now I will go for rav4
Wow i have a 2019 Crv Ex and when i drive to work I get there with a cold car 🤔 No wonder.
Get rid of it. They messed it up
I have a 2018 EXL and have had no issues so far. I bought it in Summer when we had temperatures in 80s and 90s, now we are in the 40s. I haven’t had the service as yet so I guess I should be checking my dipstick then.
I just traded my 2017 CRV in. I live in Alberta Canada and froze my butt off commuting to work this winter. Always a 30 minute trip and it won’t warm up our stay warm and checked the oil level and it is 1 litre(quart) over full mark. That means a litre of gas in my oil prematurely wearing out engine. I guarantee MOST of the 2017 and 18’s have this problem. I test drove a new 2019 CRV and it still doesn’t warm up. Bought a 2019 Mazda CX-5.
I have the 2017 Civic and 2017 CRV which share the exact same 1.5L engine. 60,000Km on the Civic and 30,000Km on the CRV and so far no issues. There is a recall and they are inspecting them and they have added a 6 year unlimited warranty on some engine parts. If you have an issue with the engine or wheel alignment, be persistent. Honda is a good company and they will fix their problems. Good Luck!
Thats the plan. Hoping they take care of it.
They will. I just got 2 new tires for free from an alignment issue. They need to see and understand the issue fully before they can fix the issue. Your dealer should be your best resource in fixing the issue. Once again, Best of Luck!
Cheers!
Rob
that is why I'll stick to my rav4 and 4runner! boring interior but bullet proof power train. toyota rules baby!!! unbeatable!!!
Apparently you're not aware of the Camry's oil consumption issues a few years back. No Company is infallible.
@@rolandrhoward9361 yup you're correct, every co. has flaws, that's why we stick to toyota they have lesser flaw compare to others. they even had this massive recall because of the SUA but look at them from north america to asia they are still #1 selling brand. boring design underpower but bullet proof reliable. you'll see them on the road where ever you look but you wont see a stalled one or being towed hehe
I encourage you to read this months MotorTrend 2019 Toyota RAV4 vs. Honda CR-V. Essentially, the RAV is junky compared to the Honda in a long list of ways.
@@66gardener hehehe then buy crv but dont forget to buy tylenol or advil as well for sure you'll be getting severe headache after few months
EX owner. The temperature gauge: Generally we worry about overheating rather than underheating. Maybe the active grill shutters aren't closing or there is a thermostat problem. Maybe the gauge is wrong. Edit update: months later I noticed for the first time that the gauge line indicates “cold” whereas I just drove the car - and it is 70 F outside!
Gas smell: nope. Gas/oil mix: not so far. Starter button: requires three hits sometimes. Auto walk-away door lock: unreliable.
Honda has lost its edge of making good cars. Older cars were made better what a shame. Honda quality has gone down.
Thats why toyota will always b king.they r going for faster.toyota mines on taking u were u wnt to go..last a life time cost less to fix
Agree toyota lexus numero uno honda dos o tres subaru ?
I owned 1 Honda never in my life again at 20000k added 1 quart of oil every month
Yeah, cause the shit is made in the USA now and the Japanese's have adopted the American standard of doing business. Made that shit to be broken sooner then later so the consumers will buy another cars. LOL
@@tashinasimpson1927 So does mine and it's a 99' Accord V6 so what's your point? I've had it for12 years and nothing but routine maintenance that is it. All of you Honda haters are the same. That's especially true for you Toyota lovers. Every chance you get you want to take cheap shots at Honda just because one individual doing this video is having a little issue with HIS HONDA so now you want to indicte the whole company? SMH As if Toyota never has any flaws. What about the recall of millions of Toyota Prius models with the brake problems? How about the 6th generation Camry (2007-10) with its major oil consumption issues, not to mention brake pads that wear out prematurely. What about those huh? You Toyota loves never want to talk about Toyotas' miscues but you'd attack the very company that you know deep inside is just as good as your beloved Toyota (IF NOT BETTER) So stop with the BS. Honda makes awesome vehicles and Id pick it over Toyota all day everyday but that's just me. You keep your Toyota and I'll keep my Honda. Honda will be fine. I guess that's why you'll continue to hate on it
2020 CRV, 64,000kms with a blown engine. Honda’s refusing to replace under warranty. $13,000+ for a new engine.
THE DILUTION PROBLEM IS NOT FIXED.
After being a die hard Honda buyer for 25 years….Buyer beware any of Honda’s 1.5L turbo engines.
There will be no more Hondas for this family.
I have been a loyal honda owner since 1991. I will speak with my wallet . The 1.5 is terrible is winter condtions in stop and go driving . Oil dilution is normal, but this is excessive My dealership has changed many engines.
Still no fix for 18 and 19 CRV's, I bet the 20 20's will still have the issue of oil dilution.
It’s only on the EX and higher trims. The LX has the smaller engine still not the “earth dreams”
@@josiehensley5705 I believe the engine you are referring to is the 2.4 naturally aspirated which is actually "bigger". It is not avail any more, if it was I'd still be driving a CRV.
You can also smell gas in the oil for the non-turbo larger engine which is present in the 2015 CRV earth dreams engine.
YES! 2020's only have the 1.5L motor. I have 5100 miles and gas in the oil!
I own a 2017 cr-v LX no issues at all with the 2.4 engine,gets 33 mpg 30k miles so far
Keith, the basic LX does NOT have the same engine all the complaints are about. Yours is NOT a 1.5 turbo. You have the same engine my 14 CRV has, and it has been a super engine.
I’ve had my CRV 2018 for almost a year and I don’t have any problems, the car heats up right away and the heat gauge covers in the middle and stays there. I live in NYC
Yeah me too, and I live in massachusetts
Thank you for this informational video. I was literally going to pick up a new one tomorrow and as a result of this information I am cancelling my purchase. BIG THANKS!
Here is my 2 cts worth on this shitstorm for honda. I bought a new 2018 Honda CRV touring in late Sept 2018. Since new (just over 5K miles on it) I have had it to the dealer 3 times for the oil dilution issue. I'm in florida now wintering. Honda america REFUSES to deal with the problem. They initially said parts were on order and the latest excuse is they put a hold on them for some unknown reason. We have 7 CRV's in our family - 2 of which have had the fix done and both are still showing the signs of high oil levels. One just broke down on the road while my brother in law was driving from the east of Canada to Arizona. This problem is real, is serious and Honda better soon address it or they are going to lose a LOT of customers.
Wendell MacKenzie I fount they really care you already bought the vehicle lol sorry
Since posting my previous comment a few things have transpired. Honda US supplied the part and did the N60 campaign to my vehicle in the local Pinellas county dealership - no charge. It has not diluted the oil any since this was done in late January. As for my brother in laws problem, his vehicles fuel got corrupted by diesel fuel according to a dealership in el paso TX he had it towed to. This is what caused his problems. The gas station company paid his repairs, towing, car rental, etc.
A 2017 touring model cr-v was on my short list of top 3 vehicles I am considering buying. After watching your video I have removed it from my list of considerations. TY for sharing this type of info!
Inexcusable the way Honda has handled this issue. Clearly it is a major design flaw that would cost millions to fix via recall, if even possible without engine rebuild or swap.
So they come up with 'it's highly efficient' nonsense and that you should drive more, smell/check/change oil frequently.
You folks need to collectively pressure Honda just as China did.
Any car in this climate should heat quickly to operating temp in minutes, and NOT dump unburnt fuel into the crank case doing it.
'Efficient' my eye, take customers for fools.
Mark Reynolds I agree. I wonder what this new fix they are coming up with. I hope it’s not something bandaid temp fix till 100k then the engine blow up.
they should stop production and buy every car back
Mark Reynolds well saud. I completely agree.
Your Pal yes!!!
I have the 1.5t motor in my Accord sport... Wanted to save $ on gas so I bought the 1.5t. I'm screwed now!
Just bought a 2019 EX. Love it. No making oil or slow warm up noted. Have your dealer throw on a new temp. gauge. I live in the desert and wish my car did not ever get really hot! You could verify the temp. problems with a OBD-II plugin device.
Thanks for the info. was actually considering getting one of these. Definitely not anymore.
You may want to consider a Mazda CX-5 or Toyota RAV4.
I had the 1.5t Civic (Canadian, in one of the coldest parts) and mine had trouble warming up and I always smelled gas. I am a long time Honda fan but I was so disappointed I had to get rid of it, glad I did before this came out. I got a Mazda 6 and I love it, it's got the Japanese build quality and reliability I was looking for, plus it's a great driving and handling car and it's really efficient!
@@ElectricZebra85 It's really sad to see how Honda has become so complacent. I'll definitely look at the Mazda 6 more so the RAV 4.
I have a 2017 civic si and after watching this video I just went to check my oil level and odor. It does have some gas odor to it but no noticeable increase in oil levels. I do know that one drawback of having a direct injected engine is that there will be a tinge of fuel odor in the oil, as the injectors are spraying directly into the combustion chamber on top of the pistons, so it is normal for some fuel to mix with the oil. However, if it's excessive as you're stating then there may be more of an issue at hand
Thanks for posting. I was about to buy this car tomorrow.
Frank M glad I can help someone out.
The 2.4 liter non turbo I have hasn’t had any problems but some say they do , but I researched The CRV and decided against the 1.5 turbo it’s too small an engine and they tried to control engine turbo temperature by computer and some aren’t working..
tom wright The 2.4 seems to be a safe bet so far. No turbo in the mix to make things worse. Couple of people here and there say they have issue with 2.4 but nothing solid.
Love Honda and had 1990 Accord, 2001 Civics and now driving 2008 Civics. Looking for an SUV for my next vehicle to drive. Was thinking of getting the CR-V or RV4. After reading online and being more informative I am starting to lean toward the 2019 RV4. Thank you for posting and I hope Honda are reading this.
jcsxyz2005 the new rav4 looks nice. Kind of like a baby 4 runner.
Besides the Accord Civics CR-V, Honda’s Oydessy is another very bad choice.
Drive the new CR-V and try out the others. You will come back to the CR-V....a truly great SUV!
I have a 2017 Honda CR-V touring, and I don't have that problem. Hope you can get it fix.
miguel guevara lot of owners with no issue. That’s good !! Just keep an eye out just in case.
That's the weird part doesn't that mean it's something mechanical ? I'll check when I have mine in two weeks
So glad I bought the 2019 RAV4. Good luck on getting this issue fixed!
RAV is junk.
Hey ours look just alike except I have a LX 2.4 Liter. Flawless 💯
monok=your lucky its the 1.5 turbo but i am buying a toyota,i went to the honda dealer yesterday and they never mentioned this problem !!!!
I had the LX at first. Traded it for this lol. Some people with the 2.4 also reported this issue.
@@EATSLEEPJD yes, it's not exclusive to the turbo engine, correct.
I got the 2.4 liter lx 2wd 2018 honda crv. 11k miles on it so far so good. Turbo with cvt transmission that just sounds weird!
@@tomjohns5146 Why would they mention the problem?
I’ve been leasing a 2016 civic for about 3 years and always assumed the gas smell was coming from outside until this issue. I nearly bought a 2018 CR-V back in July but the sales manager was playing games. I was pissed at the time but I’m glad I didn’t pull the trigger.
Good save on that one lol.
Hook up a OBD2 scanner and see what temps the ECU is reporting . Good luck
Have a 2018 CRV LX 135k miles. The only issue I’ve had is a leaking valve cover gasket which I’m doing this weekend. When I change the oil, I do smell the gas. No other issues though.
The heat issue is that the cooling system is too good. I have a 2017 ex-l 1.5t. The oil serves the turbo and engine. And then you have a huge radiator and also a secondary cooler for the turbo. An oversized water pump and a ridiculously large heater core. The engine cannot produce enough heat at idle to heat all that water up before its cooled again. I live in Houston so it's not that big of a deal for me. I have not how ever had the oil dilution issue. With about 8k miles on it bought a week after Harvey.
exactly our 2011 civic is the same it takes forever to heat it up and in the winter vyou turn the heat on and the temp gauge drops in front of your eye's
FYI all not everyone has this issue I have 2017 HONDA CRV and Live in a cold climate ( MICHIGAN) with no oil dilution issue or gas smell. There is a fix I received a letter in the mail a week ago for a software update and a/c control unit replacement I believe for the heat issue. They did change my oil which was part of the recall. I am not saying people are not experiencing issues. I do feel for those people because I have had FORDS where I felt I lived-in the dealership and it is a huge inconvenience to have to take the vehicle in to be told there is nothing wrong. But I hope some of the information I have pointed out helps.
A fix for what they deny is a problem.
They usually say it's normal. There are no check engine light on, so its good. I hate that. I hope they fix this very soon.
Honda sent a letter out. They are extending the warranty for this issue to 6 years unlimited mileage. And they are tweaking the engine and changing some parts to help. I got this letter in mail last week.
I have a ‘17 with 12k miles. Live in central Texas. Have not had any temp problem, nor smelled any gas on dipstick but oil level has been high. Love the car (my 3rd Honda) and hope Honda has this problem fixed.
Henry Harris if oil level is high it’s mixing.
EATSLEEPJD yes. Just watched a pretty good video here by an Aussie “autoexpert” I think was his ID. He made a convincing argument that the mixing is inevitable and it’s effects are engineered into the car. I’ve had very good success with Honda and I’ll trust their engineering till it lets me down. As to your heating problem, I haven’t paid a lot of attention to my water temp gage but never experienced any shortcoming. Had plenty of heat soon after starting engine even in below 20’ weather.
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My experience and 5 of my friends who have 017's 0'18's and 019's, all of us with zero problems and my dealer has had zero problems from any of their customers cars.
I went to the dealer in Davenport after I opened a case number and they directed me to try this (other) dealer to see if they can fix the problem. I bought a 2019 in February of that year and it has the same problem. I teach Mechanical Engineering and one of the many subjects is journal bearings (which float on a film of oil) and oil viscosity. I do not buy the idea that the engine was designed to allow oil dilution by gas. I've submitted oil samples for analysis and the latest one came back with more than 5% gas in the oil and the cryptic note "Moderately low viscosity, recommend checking for bad injectors and changing oil". Both dealers stated "our hands are tied, we can't do anything". The latest dealer said, "Did you watch the video (meaning this one), you need to watch this video". Well I think he gave me the wrong video to watch since it does not help their case. The dealer gave me a courtesy oil change 700 miles ago and it's now at the same level as this video. Folks, they are hornswageling us with their "Oh, it's designed this way". This latest service manager told me that until the level on the dipstick gets about 1.5 inches above the plastic, it's not a problem. Horse manure. It's simply a very poor design and the engine will suffer accelerated wear and/or damage.
William Pratt Yes I bought a 2019 last February as well. I noticed that my garage would smell like fresh gasoline whenever I’d park. I thought it was the lawnmower but realized the smell was coming from under the hood. I’ve had the vehicle at my Honda dealership twice telling them that the smell of gas is extremely strong and the dip stick smells like pure gasoline. They’ve told me nothing is wrong. Incredibly frustrating. I never ran across any articles regarding the dilution problem when I was doing research on which vehicle to purchase. Now there are tons of articles. It gives you a weird feeling when someone looks you in the eye and tells you “everything is fine” when you know for certain that they are lying. This is what the Honda service people are doing as well as the Honda corporate heads. Really sad.
@@shocksemler8145 You have my sympathy. The mechanic even told me that they couldn't pull the injectors to check them to see if one was faulty because "it's a direct injection". At that point a lesson on diesel engines and injectors and how they were not cast into the head, etc. was pointless because it was obvious he was spouting the party line. He even had the gall to tell me that "until the oil level got 1.5 inches above the add mark, there was no chance of damage." WOW! If you figure the area of the oil pan (I haven't measured it) is at least 6"x12" then that represents more than 1.5 quarts of gas for a 3.7 quart oil volume or about 30% gas. At greater than 5% my oil was below the minimum viscosity! My strategy now is to continue monitoring the oil with Blackstone and Shell oil analysis every 1000 miles on this oil change and document it, send it to the company under my case number and demand a no-cost extension of the engine warranty. I like the car other than that but Honda has a real problem with this engine. Consumer Report has an even bigger problem since I select the Honda based on their recommendation and did not find the cleverly hidden "but..." in another area. How can you recommend a vehicle with this level of issues?
William Pratt Have you checked into the lemon law in your state? I’m in Texas and you have to take your vehicle in for the same issue 2x within the first year you own it and of course have documentation that you did it and that the “problem “ was not fixed. I tried to get the service advisor to write on the paperwork that they were unable to fix the problem but he wouldn’t do it because he said no problem was found ( of course). I asked to speak to his supervisor and he told me that he had been a mechanic for 20 years and that these “fuel injection engines will have some gasoline in the oil”. Oh my gosh I had to control my anger. I told him I disagreed and that something is very wrong and he just said “ I’m sorry”. My cousin works on all his vehicles. He never takes them to a mechanic and he also told me that this should not be happening. Anyway I’m going to talk to an attorney to see if the lemon law would apply in this case. I’m sorry you’re having to deal with this as well. I’m sorry for everyone.
@@shocksemler8145 Same reply. Same essential law. Thanks for the heads-up. "Nothing to see here folks, move along" type of reply. For a Mechanical Engineer it's galling!
Do not buy a 2019.
2019 Manual
Under certain driving conditions, it is normal for the engine oil level to rise above the upper mark. If you have a concern, consult a dealer for details
Thank you so much!! My 2014 CR-V got totaled and wanted to replace with a newer version, but I'm not comfortable with the new engine choice and the oil dilution problem. I'm not gonna sink money into a truck that will fail me down the road. These new turbo engines are the death of worry free reliability. I guess I'll have to go smaller with a new HR-V so I can get a basic 4 cylinder engine because I can't to a 6 cylinder, too much gas. I can't imagine how cold wife and I would be inside this truck during the cold Chicago winters, where its becoming more common to hit negative temperatures!
i have 2016 crv which 2.4 engine..less of an issue but its dgi and so they all have a degree of a problem..the turbo 1.5 is the worst...they say it helps to use a high octane fuel instead of regular..and changing oil more.
I live in Central Ontario in Canada...No heating problem with my 1.5 litre engine...Has 41,000 kms on it or about 25,000 miles no problems yet..get great gas mileage....This may of been a problem coming out of the Ohio Honda plant where yours was probably built..Mine was built in Alliston Ontario Canada....I am wondering if it could be the US plant got a bad batch of valve seals from a supplier.......I would like to hear from any owners of the Canadian made CRV's to see if they have this problem...Its going to be expensive for Honda no doubt...
Ontario Observer most of the owners were from Canada. Canada already has a oil dilution fix. The US does not.
So far I havn't heard of any owners up here with the problem but what is the fix...I know a few owners and we are now aware of the problem as we have watched your video's and others....
@@ontarioobserver1287 there are 5 CRV's in my family alone. 2 brother in laws both have this issue fixed in Canada. I'm in florida having it done as I type this. Honda Canada sent the dealer the instruction PUB N60 documenting the fix procedure. Ask you dealer to do the same.
what did the fix consist of ie: what did the dealer do...
@@ontarioobserver1287 Here goes: (from the Honda PUB N60)
"This product update includes software updates to the PGM-FI, CVT and climate control systems to limit oil dilution by modifying fuel injection parameters and improving the speed of engine warm up. The climate control system update is a replacement of the A/C control unit. Includes no charge 6 year warranty automatically on the engine."
I have to wait for parts to arrive for the full fix on mine...just did oil change. Honda Canada were VERY helpful in assisting getting it done. KUDOS to them.
I just had mine "fixed" today. It did not fix the problem at all! I still cannot get any heat. I live in New Brunswick Canada where it is cold in November. Honda I'm not happy! We bought our 2018 CRV in September and I noticed the problem almost immediately. I'm taking it back to the dealership tomorrow. Had we known this was an issue, we would never have purchased it. We are Honda people and have never had any issues before. But I think their employees are trained in downplaying the problem.
Yes sir. Had I had the 1.5T Civic last fall, I would have had a massive fit over this mess. Glad as all get out that I have the 2.0 NA.
I REALLY think Honda screwed up by going with DI Turbos on so many cars. We will be keeping our 2010 CRV with the 2.4 NA till the wheels fall off. I am pretty sure that without a MASSIVE mea culpa from Honda, I am never going to buy a turbo/DI from them. If that means going to something like the new Passport that was announced today or jumping to Toyota, then so be it.
Oh and Hi there fellow New Brunswicker!
@Jason Price I have the same view: DI only engines have inherent design flaw, mainly carbon buildup on the inlet valves. The fuel and oil fix is another issue because DI uses much higher pressure for injecting fuel directly into the cylinders. Some fuel will inevitably get passed through the piston rings thus mixed with engine oil.
I have a 2017 Honda CRV and have the same issues. I even have an oil leaked from the cylinder head gasket,a gas smells inside the cabin...i mean its a brandnew car...so disappointed buying this car...
Emerson Tan sorry to hear that. Where do you live? If you’re in the northern states call Honda and they will sign you up for the fix.
emerson=will the crv get fixed by honda ????????
@@tomjohns5146 i can't tell whether they fixed it or not.my only option this time is return the car and maybe ill go for accord...
@@emersontan2999 go for a Toyota.
If you bought the warranties they'll fix it or if keeps giving trouble file lemon law.
I have a 2020 Honda CR-V and I was assured that this has not been an issue in Canada since 2017. Since there is so many people still Terrified about it I thought I would do the exact same test and compare results with your 2018 and my 2016 CR-V which I just traded in. The shortest drive I would ever take is early in the morning about a mile from my home. I’m in Canada and I’ll do some conversion here but basically this would be typical for any Mom or Dad taking their kid to school in the morning. It’s about a mile each way. I’m a little sensitive to this since I had a similar problem with a Toyota Sienna and Plymouth Acclaim in the past. Prior to driving I warmed up the car for more than 5 minutes then drove. It was 35 degrees Fahrenheit, so much colder than you but mild for February in Canada or the Northern US. By the time I arrived at the school it was about 1/4 warm and when I got home it was 1/2. In comparison to my 2016 it would have still been at 1/4 same with any car previous I have ever driven or owned. In comparison to your 2018 it was definitely better as well but what I will say is your test did not seem typical. It seemed that you never went above 30mph or 1,500rpm. That’s definitely not typical. When you were idling it was at 1,000rpm, at a stop sign 800 and driving only 1,500. In my experience you need to get to 2,000rpm for the car to warm up completely and begin to evaporate the gasoline. Let me touch on my Acclaim though, it began stalling while idling due to the fuel injector flooding the engine with gas. I had to get a new alternator and electrical component replaced to fix the issue. It could still stall if too much gas got in the engine by revving the engine prior to driving. This was typical at the time since prior to fuel injection engines needed this to warm up properly before driving. If you live in a cold weather climate you know cars can be very slow in extreme cold conditions if they don’t warm up properly. If you are in a hurry you’ll feel the performance issues if you just start driving. I feel like in this case my 2020 will not have the same issue, it warms up real fast compared to my 2016 or the 2017-2018 engines. We make Civic, CR-V locally here and Honda has done a lot to customize the Canadian product for the environment. The worst Toyota I ever had was built in Atlanta, prior to that they were built in Japan and recently they are built locally here and also built for the Canadian environment. That has a lot to do with it, getting a product that works great in Texas may not have been designed for Alaska or some other colder climate. Honda obviously has fixed the issue but I’m sure other manufacturers will struggle with the same issue, also controlling emissions has something to do with it too, related to the global climate warming issue
Shame on HONDA. If you look at CRV Owners website this has been going on for 2 years and they are letting customers go on damaging their engines with diluted oil. To lie to customers and not acknowledge is reprehensible.There is class action lawsuits and there should be buy backs of the vehicles.
Unko
I was so close to buying a 1.5 2018 accord. Glad I waited.
Hey I have a 2018 crv ex I notice that when I turn on my car it takes ten minutes to rise but as soon as I start driving within minutes it comes up to the normal temperature and I have now 11k on my car I’m from New York
onur nayci check your dipstick. It’s about to get winter weather up there.
Today’s modern cars don’t need to really warm up the engines that long anymore. A few second idling is enough & drive slow for a few minutes & the temps will start rising,
I wanted to buy this car but also ran into all these complaints and so glad I didn't. I asked the dealership about it and they played dumb. The one girl was such a bad liar too! Good luck man, i'm hoping it gets fixed for you. I'm holding out for the new Rav4 or Forester now.
Thanks for making this video! It needs to be brought up!
Michael Bednarczyk tell them to watch this video if they never heard of this issue.
I almost brought the CRV. Me and my wife test drove one ( on Oct 29th 2018 ) and fell in love with it.
We had the contract already written out. We were just trying to renegotiate the interest rate. It got late ( 9 pm ) and they told us to come back tomorrow.
When me and my wife got home, we researched the CRV, and came across the gas in the oil issues. This was a deal killer for us. We went back to Honda, and told them that we were going to walk away from this deal. I told them what we had found out. They told me that they never heard of this issue.
I find this hard to believe base on all the reviews news reports, and the NTSB National transportation safety Board investigating this issue.
Even China did a Stop Sale on the CRV this year.
Me and my wife look at other Crossovers vehicles Equinox, Rouge ETC. All the other Dealerships had all the new 2019 out. But Honda had a ton of 2018 CRV and not one 2019 CRV. They had all the other 2019 models out like the Accord, Civic etc. so when I follow up on this. Honda has delayed the release of the 2019 CRV because it has the same engine. No release date has been set for the 2019 CRV.
Im just glad we did not buy the CRV. We ended up buying the 2019 Chevy Equinox on Oct 31 2018.
P.S... Many Mechanics online say. Unscrew your oil cap ( were you fill your oil )... take your cap and walk away from your CRV or going inside your house, and smell your oil cap. If you smell gas. You have a major issue.
Agent2Ten I hope Honda reads this. It’s a nice vehicle. Not everyone has this issue. Hope you are happy with your new purchase. Per Honda when the 19 comes out it will have the fix already applied.
Sounds like a problem with the wrong thermostat
Something is dead wrong. Oil and gas mixing sounds like they designed this car as a 2 stroke weed wackier engine 😜. They are saying a software update will fix this but don't believe it. There is a design issue here. Gas in the oil Pan means something is seriously up with seals or fuel injector intake
From what I have read online from other CRV owners. Is this oil in gas issue can show up slowly over a year or quickly within the first 2000 miles.
Nobody knows how long the engine on the CRV will last. 3 or 4 or 6 years or more. But can you imagine an owner of a 4 year old CRV that had no issues before, but will 3 years from now. The owner would be out of their 3 years or 36,000 mile warranty. He/ She can only pray for a recall then.
Agent2Ten so sad. I am driving my original naturally aspirated 2009 Hinda CRV EX with absolutely no issues. I was strongly considering this new one but no way now. Even if it's fixed I don't think the engine was designed by Hondas old school methodology of reliability. vTEC and iVtec naturally aspirated are the way to go here
One way to avoid is to warm up your car. Getting the engine temperature high can prevent the high fuel pressure from leaking past the piston ring. As the ring will expand with temperature rise and better seal. Also warming at idle reduces fuel in the cylinder because at low rpm fuel is released in small amounts. I suspect people with lead foot and no patience to warm up the car are more familiar with this problem.
I was just about to go see the accord. I think am goin to Toyota instead
Thanks for the post. Sorry about your trouble with your CRV. Hope you get a proper resolution soon.
I’m concerned. Although my 2018 Civic EX-T has a 1.5 turbo, I read that Honda uses a slightly different variation from the CRV in North America. However, the fundamental design is the same. I don’t drive the car much (only 1,800 miles after four months ownership). I already changed the oil after three months. I’ll be keeping an eye on my oil.
The same engine but different turbo on the CR-V. Thanks not too much worried haha got better things to worry about.
What you got to do since it's a turbo, you just got to accelerate mad hard let the turbo kick in and burn the excess fuel in the engine. Basically stop driving like a old man! It's good to push the car to the limit and clean the system up. You getting 33mpg for a reason old man. You should off gotten a 2.4litter engine. It for old people... 1.5litter is for people that want to have fun from time to time. Once you accelerate hard your engine will stay warm...
Buffalo cookies - I am getting 36 mpg on my 2017 CRV - I drive it gently and have no issues. Car heats up normally and quickly. I have 21,000+ miles...no problems.
@Richard Ren Learn to obeye the redline on your tach....idiot. Honda engines are virtually indestructible if treated properly.
Thanks for the video. I want to buy a Honda CR-V 2017-2018, but after I saw your video, I think I will change my mind. I live in Canada and in the winter with those issues, that you show me with the water and oil, it is not a good idea to buy a CR-V. Thank you so much.
No problem. The new ones might have fixed the issue.
Cars take forever to warm just sitting there idling and if you have the heater on, it takes even longer. This isn't an issue it's just how it works.
I have the same issue. I live in Pennsylvania. The “fix” did nothing for the problems.
The Engine oil reeks of petrol and oil levels are 1/2 inch above high mark. Cabin smells like petrol. Multiple oil leaks.
All dealerships are thieves- they accepted oil level was high. They did not perform any oil any analysis, but they said it had an acceptable amount of petroleum in it.
Honda is the one pushing back making the dealerships say this is normal.
If you experience this, then document it by filing it or taking pics and please post complaints on NHTSA.
Get rid of it, engine that is not running at proper operating temperature will wear out quicker. Wait till Toyota releases new RAV4 and trade in for that.
Our 18 CRV has about 6,000 miles.
I roughly compared it to yours this morning. It’s 45 degrees here, I let it idle 30 seconds or so and set climate to 70 degrees, then I drove the street about a mile to 7 eleven. About 1/2 way there, the heater fan started to ramp up. When I got there I could feel some warm blowing at the floor vent. Temp gauge hadn’t moved up yet.
Turned it off and went in the store. Maybe 3 minutes later, started back up and went home, the same mile or so.
By the time I got home, temp gauge was 2-3 clicks up and heat was blowing pretty warm.
This amount of time and driving all seems on par with my Chevy van and our suburban. For our CRV hopefully we don’t have a problem.
The small engine size shouldn’t matter with a properly operating cooling system. I’ll suggest possibly you have a bad thermostat or other abnormal engine cooling system issues preventing it from warming up properly as designed from the factory and to look there
DanFilipi That’s good. Also check your dipstick for gas smell.
I smelled and it did smell gassy and over full.
I had the wife take it to the dealer yesterday so my complaint was on record.
They said gassy smell wasn’t the oil but rather something else near the valve cover hole lol. She didn’t question that statement sheesh.
They did at least change oil and filter free, and washed it, yay.
So now I have a new oil level reference mark at least, to keep an eye on it.
I have high disdain for that no-account Honda corporate spokesperson. He is totally useless. My guess is he is an MBA that doesn’t know the difference between a pile of crap and a pile of burnt beans. Honda this is shameful !!!
Unko
James, you are so right. Honda and Toyota have notoriously TERRIBLE customer relations.
I have 2017 honda CRV with 46,000 miles on it no problems
I'm honestly really curious how well the new "fix" will help things. I would also like to know why it's so much worse on the CR-V that the Civic and especially the Accord. I love Honda still, but this is just ridiculous.
I have this car 1.5 Turbo version, 40k km, bought new in 2017, no problems at all in Peru. But, I had to make the oil changes on my own because my dealer shop was using burnt oil. Fortunately we found out with a simple test in the lab, my dad is a chemical engineer and we just took the car and never returned to Fastlane Honda dealer shops.
burnt oil.? Used oil you mean?
Would you buy the 2019 crv?
Yeah my neighbour have a 2017 Honda CR-V EX, and he checked his oil and he saw that it was supposed to be at the first line which means full, and the oil was almost double, so he asked me if I know something about that and I took a look and yes it was almost double the oil level, we leave in Canada, which means yes the oil dilution is even worse because of the cold temperatures -21c -28c 🤷🏻♂️, I was about to buy a 2019 Honda CR-V touring and I did really like it but after seeing this I end up with a 2017 accord touring V6, I preferred the V6 over the new 2.0T accord 😅
Tell your neighbor they actually did a technical service bulletin for the Canadian owners. You can take it in and they change some parts and give you free oil change.