Great tip. The thing that should be noted is don't wait for the maintenance minder to tell you to change your oil. I change the oil in our CRV at 5000 miles regardless. My Chevy PU gets change at 4000 . It's a scam. Toyota's are blowing up after 100k because people aren't changing their oil. Oil does not last as long as advertised. It breaks down and when fuel is get in oil it breaks down even faster.
@David Boyce yea oil technologies haven't gotten to the point to changed them on these extended maintenance intervals. They have never figured out how to seal the rings totally and will never. This is why oil gets dirty in the first place...
Thanks for the video. I have a 2018 Honda CRV 1.5L with 140Km on it. It has always had an oil dilution issue. Short trips, long trips, does not matter. So far I hope frequent oil changes will get me through. Mixing oil types makes me nervous particularly with respect to the extended manufacturers warrantee.
Using 5W20 won't harm your engine most of the time. If you live in a cold state, I might not use the heavier oil in winter, but it should be no problem in the summer or in southern states.
Use 5w-30 or 0w-30 entirely, not 0w-20, and not 5w20. This video is wrong recommending "5w20" which has the same hot-viscosity as 0w-20. The number before the "w" is simply a viscosity rating to say it is thinner ONLY when very cold, as in below Zero F. The number AFTER the "w" is the hot viscosity, so you can safely use 5w-30 and let the fuel thin it down just a bit naturally.
Thank you for the video, David. We just bought a 2019. I've looked around the internet and half the search says oil dilution is still an issue while others say it's fixed. I don't know if the case for our 2019 CR-V 1.5L AWD, and if the case is in the level of abnormal. But I did go out there tonight, just 15 minutes ago. Lifted the oil dipstick and immediately smelled gas. I will try this on the next oil change.
This will do nothing. This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. If you want to deal with fuel dilution, put in 91 octane. Otherwise go with Toyota that does dual injection D4S. High octane can be under greater compression with less amount of gas compared to 87. That’s the solution. Unfortunately it’s a higher cost vehicle. But this applies to every vehicle that only does direct injection. If you smell gas on the dipstick, step up your octane level and still do more frequent oil changes as a further control mechanism.
the brand and model of oil matters a lot more than the advertised viscosity. Even 0w16 has quite a bit of viscosity. I have a 2.5 weight Motorex oil that I use
Manufactures recomend 0 weight oils and extended changes for two reason only....to meet fuel economy standards and list lower cost of ownership data. Use the 5 w 20 except in northern climates where temperatures drop below 20 degrees during the winter months.
Thx. for sharing. Quick question. Changed genuine engine oil and filter on 2020 CRV 1.5T . After that, the engine makes periodic roraing/buzzing sound. Like every 10 seconds lasts for 2 seconds. Any thoughts
We use 5-30 Quaker State full synthetic in my Daughters CR-V Summer and winter because of the dilution, but the oil level will still go up. It funny that the fuel mileage is not affected in the least. I don't believe there is any fix to the fuel dilution, that said the Honda does not seem to care as the wear metals on oil analysis remains low and does not seem to effect anything surprisingly enough.
Hi David- Have you previous had an oil delusion problem on the car? On the fence getting new 2022 Civic with 2.0 and 1.5T. Of course minimal options/creature comforts available on the 2.0. Thanks, Rod
Rod, thanks for your question. Yes, this is a 2019 model and the oil level was increasing a small amount between oil changes. After I started the combining the 5w20 oil the oil level stays the same. Good luck on getting your next car.
@@davidboyce1313 Thanks for the info. I just ran across a video from a guy in Australia that was talking about it. It was a good video explaining that if you’re doing very short trips often that certainly can increase your chances of having oil delusion. He recommended doing oil changes twice as often which negates the delusion issue or non stop 2 Hour drive midway between reg oil change intervals which thereby burning it off and maintain the same oil change intervals. I think your recommendation makes the most sense and eliminates the other factors. This really helps me make a decision and buy with confidence on the 1.5 L turbo so we can get more amenities on the vehicle. Of course you can’t find a car anywhere right now but I will continue to look.
Putting the wrong viscosity oil in your engine can lead to engine failure and also loss of gas mileage. Your engine has to work harder to power through thicker oils and it causes it to burn more gas and run harder which we all know leads to a short life.
I agree. That is why I mix my oil with 5 w 20 instead of just using it straight or using a higher viscosity oil. The threat of engine damage is real if you overdo it. I saw it happen back in the day with a Ford v8 engine when the person used 10 w 40 and then thought 20 w 50 would be better. Caused a cylinder to go bad.
Thank you for your comment. I mix my oil because I want to stay as close to the manufacturer's recommended viscosity as possible. I think you would probably be OK using 5-20.
You'll notice your car run a bit better/smoother and a lot less noisier if you do run with 5w30. Only difference i see when i ran 5w30 was when during cold start or winter time that it takes a bit longer to get up to temperature. Highly suggest to try it out if you're out of warranty.
@@davidboyce1313 Interestingly, if you look up the Japanese manual for the Civic, with the same engine, which you can see online, you'll see Honda recommends 0W-20, 5W-20 or 5W-30.
I need assistance to solve serious issues with my 2017 CRV. All the indicators came on, I diagnosed and it read cylinder 1 misfire. I replaced the Injectors and the plugs and after a week, the indicators came with cylinder 4 misfire. Since then, the vehicle losses power when driving, after packing and restarting the vehicle then the power is back, and it has been off and on. Any permanent solution. Due to this, all safety features in the vehicle have deactivated.
Thank you for your question. I noticed that after my oil change, the level would be on the full mark or slightly below or above. Then before my next oil change the level was at the top or slightly above the plastic part of the dipstick. It was not a lot, but it was definitely a rise in oil level. Hope this helps.
You can smell gasoline inside the car when starting it in the cold. You can smell gasoline if you pull the oil stick out. You can't miss it. Honda tech will tell you that it is normal. Well, that doesn't fly with Mr. Bye bye Honda.
Mainly, the dipstick level rises. Also, there are a couple of places you can send your oil for an analysis that will tell you exactly how much gas is contaminating the oil.
@@davidboyce1313 if you overfill your oil it puts too much pressure on the engine seals. Your oil should never be above the full mark on the stick. Might be a good idea to start leaving it a little low on oil changes to make up the difference, just don't go any more than about 1/3 quart low.
Hi Tony. This seems to be a plausible solution. However, I am not an expert. My understanding is the higher octane fuels burn hotter and faster, which in theory would cause the fuel to burn before it has a chance to get past the rings. 87 octane is recommended for my CRV, and I assume that would be the same for other 1.5 engine models. You might try it and see how your car runs.
Actually higher octan fuel is more resistant to premature detonation which prevents knocking especially in turbo engines. The manufacturers recommend lower octan fuel because it is cheaper and it appeals more to the money conscious buyers. The manufacturers only worry about their cars up until the warranty expiry date then it is not their problem anymore that is why we started seeing manufacturers recommend 10k miles oil changes on freaking turbo engines!
You're welcome. Yes, I am still mixing the oil as described in the video. The last couple of winters here in Missouri were fairly cold, and I had a couple of oil changes where my oil increased by a small amount. Overall, I am still having good results and plan to continue mixing the oil.
Hey man, I have the 2022 Accord, it has the L15BE VTEC Turbo in it, would you recommend doing this? I just bought 0w-20 Amsoil to use in it, if so thanks for the tip.
Hi Griffin. I would say that if you are having issues with oil dilution that you might give my solution a try. If you don't see any improvement, then I would say stick with the manufacturer's recommended viscosity. Good luck!
Hi Griffin, I am supposed to buy a 2022 honda accord sport 1.5 T tomorrow. I just read your post that makes me question this move. I was hopeing they fixed the 2022 models but it sounds like they have not? Thanks
If this is a fix . Why wouldn't honda engineers come up this solution. I'm skeptical of this working. Honda still has this problem. Remember you void warranty by doing this. Honda is not standing behind their product
I understand your skepticism. Hopefully there will be some feedback to this video from people who try it. That way it can be validated or not. As far as the warranty issue, the warranty only lasts for 3 years, and the chances that this method would damage an engine during that time are low. I am not going so far as to recommend this solution, but only to share it as something that works for me. I do recommend that if people try this that they stay as close as possible to the manufacturer's recommended viscosity.
Hi Kathy. I started mixing the oil after the car had 23,000 miles on it. After that the first three intervals between changes were 4,600, 5,100 and 5,800 miles. I am getting close to the next change, as it has been almost 5,000 miles since the last change. The oil level is still where it is supposed to be. I use good quality synthetic oil.
This explanation is nonsense. Something else is going on here that improved this like driving pattern or fuel used. I’ve seen others is 5w20 and 5w30 that still have dilution.
My 2019 owners manual states that a small amount of oil dilution is normal for the 1.5L engine. I am thinking that these engines should be fine as long as the dilution is just a small amount and the oil is changed regularly.
@@davidboyce1313 "regularly" as in when the MM tells you to change it or sooner? I like the car to tell me when the oil needs to be changed. If it needs more changes and does not match the MM then change/update the MM to change oil sooner.
Steve, I change my oil at around 5,000 miles or so. I call that regularly. I do not wait for the maintenance minder to remind me. The oil gets pretty dark at that mileage. That being said, I think you should be fine waiting for the MM to remind you. I think Honda knows what they are doing, and if you like waiting for the MM, I say go for it. You should be fine.
My wife and I have bought Acuras and Hondas for the last 25 years. I need a new car right now and would love to replace my totaled 2008 Civic Si daily driver with a newer Civic Si but the new ones have this oil problem and they are slow and not fun compared to my high rev 2008 Si, keep in mind I have only test driven the 2022 Si... hated it. Dash sucks, knobs on AC vents are so cheap, almost feel like they will break off in your hand. Wait until the Texas sun hits them for a few summers, they will snap. Dash mesh/screen looks a$$ and feels cheap. Here's a big no no for me... brake and clutch share same reservoir, just cheaping out by Honda. I am looking at other brands cause I have lost hope in Honda. I might be OK if they would put a sunroof in the 2.0 no turbo Civic Sport with manual trans. Why did Honda decide to make the Civic so huge now? They look like a mini version of a dodge charger at some angles... yuck. I like small fast cars, not big bulky junk. Will not buy another Honda until this motor is gone and we are getting turbo 1.8L and there is no more dilution issues, until then... looking at Toyota. Hope I hate my Toyota or I will never be back for another Honda.
Great tip. The thing that should be noted is don't wait for the maintenance minder to tell you to change your oil. I change the oil in our CRV at 5000 miles regardless. My Chevy PU gets change at 4000 . It's a scam. Toyota's are blowing up after 100k because people aren't changing their oil. Oil does not last as long as advertised. It breaks down and when fuel is get in oil it breaks down even faster.
I think it is a good idea to keep an eye on the oil and change it more frequently if it looks like it needs it.
@David Boyce yea oil technologies haven't gotten to the point to changed them on these extended maintenance intervals. They have never figured out how to seal the rings totally and will never. This is why oil gets dirty in the first place...
Thanks for the video. I have a 2018 Honda CRV 1.5L with 140Km on it. It has always had an oil dilution issue. Short trips, long trips, does not matter. So far I hope frequent oil changes will get me through. Mixing oil types makes me nervous particularly with respect to the extended manufacturers warrantee.
Thank you for your comment. It is good to know that your vehicle has reached 140 k miles.
Using 5W20 won't harm your engine most of the time. If you live in a cold state, I might not use the heavier oil in winter, but it should be no problem in the summer or in southern states.
Use 5w-30 or 0w-30 entirely, not 0w-20, and not 5w20. This video is wrong recommending "5w20" which has the same hot-viscosity as 0w-20. The number before the "w" is simply a viscosity rating to say it is thinner ONLY when very cold, as in below Zero F. The number AFTER the "w" is the hot viscosity, so you can safely use 5w-30 and let the fuel thin it down just a bit naturally.
Thank you for the video, David. We just bought a 2019. I've looked around the internet and half the search says oil dilution is still an issue while others say it's fixed. I don't know if the case for our 2019 CR-V 1.5L AWD, and if the case is in the level of abnormal. But I did go out there tonight, just 15 minutes ago. Lifted the oil dipstick and immediately smelled gas. I will try this on the next oil change.
Ahhh dang.. That's wat i wanna buy the same crv u have. 2019 ex crv.... So are u still having the same problem?
This will do nothing. This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. If you want to deal with fuel dilution, put in 91 octane. Otherwise go with Toyota that does dual injection D4S. High octane can be under greater compression with less amount of gas compared to 87. That’s the solution. Unfortunately it’s a higher cost vehicle. But this applies to every vehicle that only does direct injection. If you smell gas on the dipstick, step up your octane level and still do more frequent oil changes as a further control mechanism.
The best thing to do is avoid turbo,s engines all together😢
Just brilliant!!! Thank you!
You're welcome!
the brand and model of oil matters a lot more than the advertised viscosity. Even 0w16 has quite a bit of viscosity. I have a 2.5 weight Motorex oil that I use
I’d also install an engine block heater for people in colder climates.
Good ideal That would probably help.
Manufactures recomend 0 weight oils and extended changes for two reason only....to meet fuel economy standards and list lower cost of ownership data. Use the 5 w 20 except in northern climates where temperatures drop below 20 degrees during the winter months.
I guess putting a bandaid on your broken arm technically counts as a fix.
Will try. 2021 CRV EXL. Bought new has 12000 miles now, just started dilution problem.
Good luck. Please post again after you try it and let me know how it goes.
@@davidboyce1313 will do.
how is the honda crv? we have 2022.
Thx. for sharing. Quick question. Changed genuine engine oil and filter on 2020 CRV 1.5T . After that, the engine makes periodic roraing/buzzing sound. Like every 10 seconds lasts for 2 seconds. Any thoughts
I have not experienced that, and I am not sure what that could be. Good luck.
We use 5-30 Quaker State full synthetic in my Daughters CR-V Summer and winter because of the dilution, but the oil level will still go up. It funny that the fuel mileage is not affected in the least. I don't believe there is any fix to the fuel dilution, that said the Honda does not seem to care as the wear metals on oil analysis remains low and does not seem to effect anything surprisingly enough.
Thank you for your comment. Good to know.
Hi David-
Have you previous had an oil delusion problem on the car? On the fence getting new 2022 Civic with 2.0 and 1.5T. Of course minimal options/creature comforts available on the 2.0.
Thanks,
Rod
Rod, thanks for your question. Yes, this is a 2019 model and the oil level was increasing a small amount between oil changes. After I started the combining the 5w20 oil the oil level stays the same. Good luck on getting your next car.
@@davidboyce1313 Thanks for the info. I just ran across a video from a guy in Australia that was talking about it. It was a good video explaining that if you’re doing very short trips often that certainly can increase your chances of having oil delusion. He recommended doing oil changes twice as often which negates the delusion issue or non stop 2 Hour drive midway between reg oil change intervals which thereby burning it off and maintain the same oil change intervals. I think your recommendation makes the most sense and eliminates the other factors. This really helps me make a decision and buy with confidence on the 1.5 L turbo so we can get more amenities on the vehicle. Of course you can’t find a car anywhere right now but I will continue to look.
@@indyrd5625 get the toyota rav 4 or Corolla instead
@@Mabeylater293 Toyotas suck
@@Waxxumus only for mechanics 🤣🤣
thought of this too, was an oil teck in previous life. think i will just use 5w30 in my CRV next change
Sounds like a good plan. Please post again after you try it and let us know how it worked.
Putting the wrong viscosity oil in your engine can lead to engine failure and also loss of gas mileage. Your engine has to work harder to power through thicker oils and it causes it to burn more gas and run harder which we all know leads to a short life.
I agree. That is why I mix my oil with 5 w 20 instead of just using it straight or using a higher viscosity oil. The threat of engine damage is real if you overdo it. I saw it happen back in the day with a Ford v8 engine when the person used 10 w 40 and then thought 20 w 50 would be better. Caused a cylinder to go bad.
seems like .5dilution of 5w20 mixed with 0w20 be like 2.5w20.@@davidboyce1313
love it
Thanks
My 2016 civic started the oil dilution I found the pvc valve was stuck so I bought a new one which was hard to find replaced it no more gas in the oil
Awesome. Glad you got it fixed!
The W stands for winter, not weight.
Great video. Do you see anything wrong with using straight 5-30 instead of mixing?
Thank you for your comment. I mix my oil because I want to stay as close to the manufacturer's recommended viscosity as possible. I think you would probably be OK using 5-20.
You'll notice your car run a bit better/smoother and a lot less noisier if you do run with 5w30. Only difference i see when i ran 5w30 was when during cold start or winter time that it takes a bit longer to get up to temperature. Highly suggest to try it out if you're out of warranty.
@@davidboyce1313 Interestingly, if you look up the Japanese manual for the Civic, with the same engine, which you can see online, you'll see Honda recommends 0W-20, 5W-20 or 5W-30.
I need assistance to solve serious issues with my 2017 CRV.
All the indicators came on, I diagnosed and it read cylinder 1 misfire.
I replaced the Injectors and the plugs and after a week, the indicators came with cylinder 4 misfire. Since then, the vehicle losses power when driving, after packing and restarting the vehicle then the power is back, and it has been off and on. Any permanent solution. Due to this, all safety features in the vehicle have deactivated.
Did you fix it?
What were the signs of oil dilution, in your CR-V?
Thank you for your question. I noticed that after my oil change, the level would be on the full mark or slightly below or above. Then before my next oil change the level was at the top or slightly above the plastic part of the dipstick. It was not a lot, but it was definitely a rise in oil level. Hope this helps.
You can smell gasoline inside the car when starting it in the cold. You can smell gasoline if you pull the oil stick out. You can't miss it. Honda tech will tell you that it is normal. Well, that doesn't fly with Mr. Bye bye Honda.
Mainly, the dipstick level rises. Also, there are a couple of places you can send your oil for an analysis that will tell you exactly how much gas is contaminating the oil.
@@davidboyce1313 if you overfill your oil it puts too much pressure on the engine seals. Your oil should never be above the full mark on the stick. Might be a good idea to start leaving it a little low on oil changes to make up the difference, just don't go any more than about 1/3 quart low.
Good comment. agree.
Can you switch to premium gas with Top Tier Gas Stations and resolve the issue as well.
Hi Tony. This seems to be a plausible solution. However, I am not an expert. My understanding is the higher octane fuels burn hotter and faster, which in theory would cause the fuel to burn before it has a chance to get past the rings. 87 octane is recommended for my CRV, and I assume that would be the same for other 1.5 engine models. You might try it and see how your car runs.
Actually higher octan fuel is more resistant to premature detonation which prevents knocking especially in turbo engines. The manufacturers recommend lower octan fuel because it is cheaper and it appeals more to the money conscious buyers. The manufacturers only worry about their cars up until the warranty expiry date then it is not their problem anymore that is why we started seeing manufacturers recommend 10k miles oil changes on freaking turbo engines!
I read the manual for using higher octane is recommended for 2017 CRV 1.5LTRS Turbo
Thx for sharing? Just curious if you still do the same on Engine oil and any issues so far?
You're welcome. Yes, I am still mixing the oil as described in the video. The last couple of winters here in Missouri were fairly cold, and I had a couple of oil changes where my oil increased by a small amount. Overall, I am still having good results and plan to continue mixing the oil.
Hey man, I have the 2022 Accord, it has the L15BE VTEC Turbo in it, would you recommend doing this? I just bought 0w-20 Amsoil to use in it, if so thanks for the tip.
Hi Griffin. I would say that if you are having issues with oil dilution that you might give my solution a try. If you don't see any improvement, then I would say stick with the manufacturer's recommended viscosity. Good luck!
@@davidboyce1313 I just got the car a month ago and the oil wreaks of gas, such bullshit
@@gbrocco2000 sorry to hear that. If you try my solution, please let me know if it works.
i also have accord 1.5 2022 EXL , it has 17000 miles i have not seen anything. so far
Hi Griffin, I am supposed to buy a 2022 honda accord sport 1.5 T tomorrow. I just read your post that makes me question this move. I was hopeing they fixed the 2022 models but it sounds like they have not? Thanks
If this is a fix . Why wouldn't honda engineers come up this solution. I'm skeptical of this working. Honda still has this problem. Remember you void warranty by doing this. Honda is not standing behind their product
I understand your skepticism. Hopefully there will be some feedback to this video from people who try it. That way it can be validated or not. As far as the warranty issue, the warranty only lasts for 3 years, and the chances that this method would damage an engine during that time are low. I am not going so far as to recommend this solution, but only to share it as something that works for me. I do recommend that if people try this that they stay as close as possible to the manufacturer's recommended viscosity.
I have a 2019 crv and disappointed with excessive oil dilution and no heat.
🤙
How often do you change your oil?
Hi Kathy. I started mixing the oil after the car had 23,000 miles on it. After that the first three intervals between changes were 4,600, 5,100 and 5,800 miles. I am getting close to the next change, as it has been almost 5,000 miles since the last change. The oil level is still where it is supposed to be. I use good quality synthetic oil.
This explanation is nonsense. Something else is going on here that improved this like driving pattern or fuel used. I’ve seen others is 5w20 and 5w30 that still have dilution.
Why doesn't Honda recommend a different oil viscosity?
Good point. Maybe Honda will notice if enough people have success with this.
Using 0w-16 is supposed to help to solve that issue.
The way to fix it is for Honda to use better rings. That may help but it’s not a fix. We bought the new rogue instead.
Wow sounds like a Honda problem they should solve I have a new accord 22 hopefully it’s fixed by now 🤦🏻♂️
My 2019 owners manual states that a small amount of oil dilution is normal for the 1.5L engine. I am thinking that these engines should be fine as long as the dilution is just a small amount and the oil is changed regularly.
@@davidboyce1313 "regularly" as in when the MM tells you to change it or sooner? I like the car to tell me when the oil needs to be changed. If it needs more changes and does not match the MM then change/update the MM to change oil sooner.
Steve, I change my oil at around 5,000 miles or so. I call that regularly. I do not wait for the maintenance minder to remind me. The oil gets pretty dark at that mileage. That being said, I think you should be fine waiting for the MM to remind you. I think Honda knows what they are doing, and if you like waiting for the MM, I say go for it. You should be fine.
My wife and I have bought Acuras and Hondas for the last 25 years. I need a new car right now and would love to replace my totaled 2008 Civic Si daily driver with a newer Civic Si but the new ones have this oil problem and they are slow and not fun compared to my high rev 2008 Si, keep in mind I have only test driven the 2022 Si... hated it. Dash sucks, knobs on AC vents are so cheap, almost feel like they will break off in your hand. Wait until the Texas sun hits them for a few summers, they will snap. Dash mesh/screen looks a$$ and feels cheap. Here's a big no no for me... brake and clutch share same reservoir, just cheaping out by Honda. I am looking at other brands cause I have lost hope in Honda. I might be OK if they would put a sunroof in the 2.0 no turbo Civic Sport with manual trans. Why did Honda decide to make the Civic so huge now? They look like a mini version of a dodge charger at some angles... yuck. I like small fast cars, not big bulky junk. Will not buy another Honda until this motor is gone and we are getting turbo 1.8L and there is no more dilution issues, until then... looking at Toyota. Hope I hate my Toyota or I will never be back for another Honda.