Dude, for the longest time when I’d aim I would find myself bending my wrist and extending my arm to straighten out my aim for left to right/straight up and down movements. I had no idea why I’d get myself in these contorted positions. I thought maybe it was anxiety? After watching your sensor video last night though I followed your instructions and began to tweak my settings on raweccel. I noticed an IMMEDIATE difference. Like, night and day. My tracking and target acquisition feels so less strained and way more natural. Its pretty shocking.. Old habits die hard though and I’m finding myself still trying to straighten out my sensor sometimes. But dude, I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your videos and all that you do the for aiming community. Thank you man
Because there isn't but the "35-45" sweetspot has been around for ages - whether you spam !sens in every twitch chat or check Kovaaks/Aimbeast top100 leaderboards. There would always be outliers are 80cm but its just that - outliers. And those that just set high scores at weird sensitivities just "to flex" that they can/show its possible. This video is more of an "affirmation" from someone who can actually aim and has been around for a long time rather than the TenZ Valorant copycats speaking out of their buttcheeks. Struth just sums up all the available information + some of his toughts/experience in a short 10min video which is very nice especially for newcomers who are lost and think their sensitivity is the only factor of why they can't aim in hopes that "the magic number would solve all their problems", i hope it'd at least give them a piece of mind.
That visualization of the physical space that different sensitivities move is actually eye-opening. I always noticed that i had more leeway to miss the exact target on lower sensitivities.
I've been following your channel for quite a long time, about a couple of years. In parallel, I also experimented with different mouse sensitivities and DPI. I got to the point where I changed it 10 times a day in search of a comfortable combination. Now I completely agree with most of the respondents (7:04) about the closest to ideal ratio being 36cm/360° for most cases. (In my case, even on a large 900x400mm mouse pad). Recently I returned to 1600 DPI and set the sensitivity in Windows to 4/11. I've never felt so good and confident using my G Pro Superlight on desktop and in any game, any shooter with such settings. I started searching a long time ago, and it turned out to be pointless, because I ended up back where I started years ago (muscle memory probably said hello, but still...). I just can't find anything more ideal than this. Thank you very much for your research in this area for such a long time. For me, the search for the perfect sensitivity is finally over. Thanks for the content! Maybe someone will find this set of settings useful :)
Love the analysis! I conducted fairly similar analyses with two key differences: instead of looking at the average among all pros, I took a weighted average by performance (as determined by non-utility damage, kills, and sampled accuracy metrics). I also separated it by game since the FPS market among mouse and keyboard players is dominated by tactical shooters like Valorant and CS (most other FPS titles are moving toward controller dominated competitive scenes for the aim assist advantage). What I found is that, for Apex, the "best" sens is closer to the 26 +-5 cm/360 range. While Valorant and CS are almost exactly 10-15 cm/360 higher (lower sens).
I been playing FPS for over 10 years and 20k hours, I usually just tell people to go with a sensitivity that they can do a full 360 with in one comfortable swipe, it gives you a good mix of movement capability and aim. It might take like 10 minutes to get used to but so does every sensitivity and at the end of the day its about how good your mouse control is, If you are experienced enough with using a mouse you can pretty much use any sensitivity and still hit your shots
Your videos are amazing. You are awesome, man. I'm about to order a OP18K and buy a pair of your claw-mates to go with it. Appreciate your hard work pushing these informational videos all the time!
I did this recently. In cs2 the 1:1 sense is around 0.63 at 400dpi. I’m now using 0.8 sens at 400dpi(130cm360) with a 27g fingertip 3d printed mouse mod. It’s a pretty crazy setup. Awping on 130 is so unrealistic but when it works, it feels amazing
Nice! But: I think the number 35-45 appears in the pols because most people play on desktopspace that allows for mousepads in that size. Not everyone has a biiig desktop to play with. I gues if you ask about that in a pol you get the same numbers. Would be funny to invite 100 testpersons to a office furnituere store and test if they go higher cm with more desktopspace and bigger mousepads. Just my theorie....
@@Anthouu23 yea, sub 50g lighter nice have made me in the past use really low sens like you. To the point I couldn’t change back. I play a lot of Valorant, and have had to suffer getting used to the gpx, just to get a middle weight mouse so I can up my sens a bit.
So I've always enjoyed higher sensitivity, but never payed attention to the CM/360 or anything, because I didn't understand it. This is one of, if not the best video I have ever seen on sensitivity and aiming. Now that I fully understand it, and see all the graphs and data, it has completely changed the way I think about sensitivity. I changed my sensitivity in Aimlabs immediately after and noticed improvement I didn't think was possible for me without many more hours of training. That being said, it's not like I crushed any high scores, but it just felt really, really nice, like I was already warmed up even though it was the first thing I've done in a few days. Even though I wasn't used to it and was having to do a lot of correction on my flicks, it still felt nice. And WAY easier. For the record I was apparently playing on 16.93CM/360. I didn't even realize it was that fast. I was trying to match common sensitivities I saw others use, and then use that to adapt to what felt right for me. Now I see that the CM/360 number is WAY more important than the Sensitivity number. Amazing video. Thank you and kudos to you. I'm going to go get destroyed in Deadlock now and find something else to blame my poor performance on 👍😂
good insights as always, I believe we can define the feeling as well. For me it is when my grip tension is low consistently in different aiming situations.
My sweetspot is 40-50cm. 34cm is my limit for higher sens & 54cm for lowest, before it feels way to uncomfortable for me and 110 fov is my favorite to use!
I use something around 74cm/360 in CS2 and I compensate the slowness with a RawAccel curve that only activates when doing a really fast sweep when I need to do 180's. In games with an ADS mechanic like COD and BF I just use a comfortable (fast) base sens and set my ADS sens lower to mimic my CS sens.
@@Timayy you can go even lower. I'd suggest depending on fov etc, that you start from 0.8 and go all the way down to 0.5 of something. Whatever suits ur playstyle. Make use of the advantage of having low and high sens at the same time.
@@Remu- What's the curve u use and if u could tell ur values cuz I'm experimenting. I currently use 12000 dpi with a sens multiplier of 0.05, linear curve with cap type of both, cap input of 15, cap output of 1.5 and input offset of 0.
I looked into these to figure out why I was only decent at aiming. I was gaming on 2cm. I've been working my way up and am around 12cm right now and it feels amazingly easy to get kills and be consistent. Started computer gaming when I was deployed and I'd have to use the part of the laptop right below the keypad as my mouse pad so I have a lot to unlearn from those years.
Awesome approach. I am sitting on 38-40cm for roughly 2 years now and I am feeling very comfortable but not 100% optimal with it. This is the video I needed, outstanding work and great new approach of taking things into consideration. I will optimize and see what happens! 🎉
While I don't know anyone playing on a sens as high as 5cm/360, there is a very high rated kovaaks player and a 3-role rank 1 ow coach who uses 8cm/360 and his aim is insane. I think the philosophy behind high sens is simply different. I think its more based on hand-eye coordination and being able to alighn the crosshair with your target as fast as possible.
26cm/360 for me. I also always set the FoV of a game to somewhere between 68 (FoV in CS) and 75 degrees. For me the combination of those two settings feels right and the minor differences between the FoV ranges doesn't take long for my brain to naturally adapt, even when rapidly swapping between them.
That's just some text I added when editing those clips. I would find my cm/360 by using a calculator like this aiming.pro/mouse-sensitivity-calculator (just use the left side and show advanced) and/or by physically measuring the distance my mouse moves when rotating 360 degrees in-game.
Im surprised you didnt mention more about focal length scaling when it comes to sens at different FOVs. When you showed the different sens you play at depending on the game based on "feeling", it actually kind of lines up due to focal length scaling from the different FOVs those games have.
It's tricky deciding what to include in each video, because there are both aiming veterans and beginners watching them. If I elaborate on every topic the videos go forever and it can be overwhelming. You're totally right about the sensitivities on different FOVs sort of lining up with focal length scaling. What's galling is that it doesn't line up perfectly. If I convert my hipfire sensitivities between FOVs with focal length scaling, it never quite feels right. When going to lower FOV, the converted sens is too slow, and when going to higher FOV the converted sens feels too fast. Despite this, it feels great for ADS/Scope (so why not hipfire?) The sensitivity I use on a particular FOV usually sits somewhere between the direct cm/360 conversion and the focal length conversion. I unfortunately don't have any robust conclusions about this yet.
Awesome explanation Thank you! Never knew all that stuff, but intuitively I always was around 38cm in majority of games as it turns out :D. But weirdly enough in cs I had 74cm for 360
I play on about 43cm in every game except Val and CS. Idk why, but in those games I just cannot be accurate enough to hit shots. Every other game my aim is like best in lobby consistently
I expected the results to be very off of what is normally used by players, but you've hit the mark really close, as generally around ~40cm for hero shooters like overwatch/apex and ~60cm for tacfps games like csgo or val is very standard. cheers!
I havnt watched the video yet 🤪but pretty sure I play on 41cm/360 and it feels a little slow for really fast paced games and It feels like a work out to move my mouse fast and far enough to be competitive!
So are these numbers for "hip fire" or ads? I guess that's the part that's always thrown me off. For example, if it's hip fire then should ads on average be 60% of that or something?
The numbers are based off hipfire. For ADS/scope, I recommend using focal length scaling. The tricky thing is knowing which games support it or not. The default of 1 in Apex does, so you don't need to change anything. If a game offers a monitor coefficient setting you can choose 0% which is focal length scaling.
Great video, loved it! I think there arises a problem with the advice that you can find the perfect sensitivity for you based on feeling because that just means you found a sensitivity that feels the best for you not the one that is objectively the best for you. For example you can get used to lots and lots of wildly different sensitivities just by playing on them a lot.. So this "perfect" sensitivity that you find using your feeling changes based on what sensitivity you're used to currently, what feels the most like home to you so I think you end up with a biased sensitivity that isn't truly perfect in performance, just perfect in feeling.
You're totally right and I've actually made a video on this idea before too. If you look at the average cm/360 of pro players and their DPI, they directly correlate. Higher DPI = Higher sens Lower DPI = Lower sens In my opinion this is because the DPI in general PC use and in game menus develops that comfort which then influences what sens in-game feels most comfortable.
@@StruthGaming Yeah I think I saw that one too and that indication is really interesting and yeah you're probably right, I've had the same thought as to why DPI does that. Great one as well. I also noticed this by myself way before and have been "manipulating" my preferred sensitivity feeling to a much higher one than usual for agility, comfort and longevity/consistency of average accuracy over long gaming sessions(no or less fatigue). I've had lots of fun, it kinda rekindled my love for aiming doing this. My main senses over the years have gone from 77cm/360 all the way over to 15cm/360.
61cm~ for me in CS. Anything around 40 would be WAY too fast for me, I didn't expect that to be the "general sweet spot" tbh, even when I play faster games I go slower than that.
Amazing video, me personally my endgame sensitivity is 30cm/360 like 2.84 in COD at 1600 DPI. I never had more fun on a mouse sens till now. My main is the Viper V3 Pro btw.
I may be a bit of an outlier but personally I've tried every sens from the lowest of lows to the highest of highs and I've found that a higher sens works better for me. Around 40cm/360 just feels extremely sluggish and like I can't do any of the movements I actually want to do. Currently I'm running at 800dpi with a sens of 9 in game in Ultrakill with an FOV of 103 which gives me 25.4cm/360, in Valorant to get that same sens I'm using 0.643 and it feels really good for me. Ultrakill is a game that requires alot of movement though and I also play Jett alot in Valorant so could be part of it.
10:22 - Are you playing in EU servers? Rizzard of Oz crutching R3 in Mixtape has to be me. Hopefully this video would give many a piece of mind to some who are stressing a little too much over sensitivity. And as a fellow "aimer" i do agree with that range being a sweetspot with only exception being Static Clicking if you look at few popular scenarios on Kovaaks/Aimbeast. Works great for most other categories and games - not too slow to react, not too fast to sacrifice too much precision/accuracy.
I've been PC gaming for years and I still suck on mouse, I've been playing on 40cm for a little while and I'm much better. I'm also getting a new desk soon because I've seen a video on ergonomics that showed I've had all the wrong setup for years, hopefully that'll help too
Your mouse DPI is a separate number to the 45cm/360. It's basically a setting on your mouse that determines how 'fast' it is. It's usually in steps of 400/800/1600/3200. Your mouse likely has a button somewhere on it to change this, or has software for the mouse where you can see and change it. Depending on the game you are playing, your DPI and the in-game sensitivity will help you figure out your cm/360. If you go here -aiming.pro/mouse-sensitivity-calculator Enter your game of choice in the left side (ignore the right hand side as we're not converting anything). Hit 'show advanced' enter your current mouse DPI and type in 45 into the cm/360 field which will show you the in-game sensitivity needed to = 45cm/360. Hope that helps!
I don’t wanna relearn my sens after using mine for years, I got real comfortable using 15-20 caz of the space lim I had for my mousepad when I was a kid and it just stuck
funnily enought in apex the 1x ads at 110 ingame fov and 37.7 cm is 50.1cm so id agrue that unless u hipfire upclose apex players and valorant players have the same cm360 in alot of situations
Struth, what’s your opinions on monitor coefficient? As there are different values I see some MNK players playing at 0 I see some at 1.33 I see some on 1.78 🤷♂️
I'm a fan of 0. Focal length scaling has the most sound reasoning behind it. Plus, if I play a new game without a coefficient option, I almost always land on an ADS sens that aligns with 0% upon later conversion.
@ awesome thank you. I’ve got your claw grips, Sydney based gamer. It’s helped my aim heaps, I’ve got. A claw / palm hybrid approach now. I play MNK on XBOX, I can’t aim train which sucks I can’t wait to get a PC so I can dial in my skills, I’ve followed all your advice about posture etc and it all helped so thank you ✌🏽
You are quite literally at a disadvantage. Top aim trainer players say nobody should ever use a sens higher than 20 cm in any game. There is 0 gains for using a sens that high. Unless you are doing multiple 360s in a row for some odd reason.
@@JohnDOe-ke9cw yeah i trickshot even though im at a disadvantage i can still aim smoothly lol just gotta press hella hard on your mouse ik it fucks up your wrist but its the only way to achieve smoothness on that sens
Me, who recently swapped from approx 43.3cm/360 to approx 66.6cm/360 and is finding it working better for me in Overwatch, CoD, Battlefield and any other shooty bang bang I throw at myself: Hmmm... Fuck.
@@DifficultFryingPan Tbf, Ryujehong, the Zenyatta main in S1 of Overwatch League who was best known for his ability to 180 and one shot flankers with an orb volley was somewhere around 70-80cm/360.
Hello my fellow 80+cm/360° player. Was high sens before then trained with 100cm/360 for better crosshair placement slowly increased it to 82. How did you arrive to such low sens?
@@Tritone_b5 Hey there, fellow low-sens enjoyer! I switched to this sensitivity after realizing how much control and precision it offers, especially for tracking and crosshair placement. The transition was gradual-started higher, then kept lowering as I focused on refining mechanics and building muscle memory. It forces you to rely on deliberate, consistent movements rather than quick flicks, which massively improved my aim consistency over time. It's all about that balance between precision and comfort!
@@seifergamer057 Yea I was the same, always with the quick flicks before. My aim is more consistent than with high sens. As a side effect all other games feel so high sens though.
@@Tritone_b5 I feel you, man. Once you get used to low sens, everything else feels like you're skating on ice. It’s wild how muscle memory gets so locked in. The upside? When you stick to it, even in other games, you’ll notice your precision carries over with time. It’s just an adjustment phase. Low sens is the patience grind, but the payoff is killer.
Well, hmmmm. My sense on black ops 6 current cod. Is 4.5 @ 1600dpi. Which with the calculator is 19.24cm/360. 😂 Is that bad? I manage a 2+kd. So is it working or am i just used to it? I do also use a glass pad.
This is the end all be all for mouse sens, stick between 33-40 and maybe higher for CS and Val. End of story . Unless you step into Mouse Acceleration.
What works, works. Don't ruin your virgin muscle memory because of pure testing purposes. You've probably landed on that sens for a good reason, because it feels good, and the feeling is all that matters.
@@bigjerome-wz4uoliterally was gonna say this lmao I’m An aimlabs leaderboard player and amongst the top 30 I’ve seen either have insanely fast or insanely slow or literally a few cms off of what my sensitivity is
The question then is in say apex, do you keep your per optics within that range or just your hipfire. Personally i calculated a 1.16 ads multiplier at 110 fov gives a similar feel for sensitivity by going off pixels per 360
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Dude, for the longest time when I’d aim I would find myself bending my wrist and extending my arm to straighten out my aim for left to right/straight up and down movements. I had no idea why I’d get myself in these contorted positions. I thought maybe it was anxiety? After watching your sensor video last night though I followed your instructions and began to tweak my settings on raweccel. I noticed an IMMEDIATE difference. Like, night and day. My tracking and target acquisition feels so less strained and way more natural. Its pretty shocking.. Old habits die hard though and I’m finding myself still trying to straighten out my sensor sometimes. But dude, I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your videos and all that you do the for aiming community. Thank you man
i was expecting to say "there is no best sens its subjective" but this is actually great
Because there isn't but the "35-45" sweetspot has been around for ages - whether you spam !sens in every twitch chat or check Kovaaks/Aimbeast top100 leaderboards. There would always be outliers are 80cm but its just that - outliers. And those that just set high scores at weird sensitivities just "to flex" that they can/show its possible. This video is more of an "affirmation" from someone who can actually aim and has been around for a long time rather than the TenZ Valorant copycats speaking out of their buttcheeks. Struth just sums up all the available information + some of his toughts/experience in a short 10min video which is very nice especially for newcomers who are lost and think their sensitivity is the only factor of why they can't aim in hopes that "the magic number would solve all their problems", i hope it'd at least give them a piece of mind.
That visualization of the physical space that different sensitivities move is actually eye-opening. I always noticed that i had more leeway to miss the exact target on lower sensitivities.
extremely sick and clever way of approaching this
I've been following your channel for quite a long time, about a couple of years. In parallel, I also experimented with different mouse sensitivities and DPI. I got to the point where I changed it 10 times a day in search of a comfortable combination. Now I completely agree with most of the respondents (7:04) about the closest to ideal ratio being 36cm/360° for most cases. (In my case, even on a large 900x400mm mouse pad). Recently I returned to 1600 DPI and set the sensitivity in Windows to 4/11. I've never felt so good and confident using my G Pro Superlight on desktop and in any game, any shooter with such settings. I started searching a long time ago, and it turned out to be pointless, because I ended up back where I started years ago (muscle memory probably said hello, but still...). I just can't find anything more ideal than this. Thank you very much for your research in this area for such a long time. For me, the search for the perfect sensitivity is finally over.
Thanks for the content! Maybe someone will find this set of settings useful :)
Love the analysis! I conducted fairly similar analyses with two key differences: instead of looking at the average among all pros, I took a weighted average by performance (as determined by non-utility damage, kills, and sampled accuracy metrics). I also separated it by game since the FPS market among mouse and keyboard players is dominated by tactical shooters like Valorant and CS (most other FPS titles are moving toward controller dominated competitive scenes for the aim assist advantage).
What I found is that, for Apex, the "best" sens is closer to the 26 +-5 cm/360 range. While Valorant and CS are almost exactly 10-15 cm/360 higher (lower sens).
I been playing FPS for over 10 years and 20k hours, I usually just tell people to go with a sensitivity that they can do a full 360 with in one comfortable swipe, it gives you a good mix of movement capability and aim. It might take like 10 minutes to get used to but so does every sensitivity and at the end of the day its about how good your mouse control is, If you are experienced enough with using a mouse you can pretty much use any sensitivity and still hit your shots
just amazing effort and video massive respect
Your videos are amazing. You are awesome, man. I'm about to order a OP18K and buy a pair of your claw-mates to go with it. Appreciate your hard work pushing these informational videos all the time!
40cm is my endgame. Been on it for just over a year and its perfect.
the most underrarted channel ong
I did this recently. In cs2 the 1:1 sense is around 0.63 at 400dpi. I’m now using 0.8 sens at 400dpi(130cm360) with a 27g fingertip 3d printed mouse mod. It’s a pretty crazy setup. Awping on 130 is so unrealistic but when it works, it feels amazing
Thats for hip fire.. what about ads sens?
Solid content. Thank you Struth 🙏
Nice!
But: I think the number 35-45 appears in the pols because most people play on desktopspace that allows for mousepads in that size. Not everyone has a biiig desktop to play with. I gues if you ask about that in a pol you get the same numbers. Would be funny to invite 100 testpersons to a office furnituere store and test if they go higher cm with more desktopspace and bigger mousepads. Just my theorie....
i play on 108cm/360 on a avg size mousepad
@@Anthouu23 you scare me
@@tvhx lol, i play val that's why
@@Anthouu23 yea, sub 50g lighter nice have made me in the past use really low sens like you. To the point I couldn’t change back. I play a lot of Valorant, and have had to suffer getting used to the gpx, just to get a middle weight mouse so I can up my sens a bit.
I love how it seems so close to the age old move your mouse across the mousepad and set it so you do a 360 that everyone used to do
So I've always enjoyed higher sensitivity, but never payed attention to the CM/360 or anything, because I didn't understand it. This is one of, if not the best video I have ever seen on sensitivity and aiming. Now that I fully understand it, and see all the graphs and data, it has completely changed the way I think about sensitivity. I changed my sensitivity in Aimlabs immediately after and noticed improvement I didn't think was possible for me without many more hours of training. That being said, it's not like I crushed any high scores, but it just felt really, really nice, like I was already warmed up even though it was the first thing I've done in a few days. Even though I wasn't used to it and was having to do a lot of correction on my flicks, it still felt nice. And WAY easier. For the record I was apparently playing on 16.93CM/360. I didn't even realize it was that fast. I was trying to match common sensitivities I saw others use, and then use that to adapt to what felt right for me. Now I see that the CM/360 number is WAY more important than the Sensitivity number. Amazing video. Thank you and kudos to you. I'm going to go get destroyed in Deadlock now and find something else to blame my poor performance on 👍😂
good insights as always, I believe we can define the feeling as well. For me it is when my grip tension is low consistently in different aiming situations.
I 100% agree I’ve been using 43 cm/360 for a long time it feels Just right to me.
My sweetspot is 40-50cm. 34cm is my limit for higher sens & 54cm for lowest, before it feels way to uncomfortable for me and 110 fov is my favorite to use!
good stuff as always struth.
This is an interesting way to approach sensitivity!
I use something around 74cm/360 in CS2 and I compensate the slowness with a RawAccel curve that only activates when doing a really fast sweep when I need to do 180's.
In games with an ADS mechanic like COD and BF I just use a comfortable (fast) base sens and set my ADS sens lower to mimic my CS sens.
+1. Couldn't relate more❤
Like .8 ads?
@@Timayy you can go even lower. I'd suggest depending on fov etc, that you start from 0.8 and go all the way down to 0.5 of something. Whatever suits ur playstyle. Make use of the advantage of having low and high sens at the same time.
@@Remu- What's the curve u use and if u could tell ur values cuz I'm experimenting. I currently use 12000 dpi with a sens multiplier of 0.05, linear curve with cap type of both, cap input of 15, cap output of 1.5 and input offset of 0.
@@lh3544 I use natural curve. Input offset 20, Limit 3.
I looked into these to figure out why I was only decent at aiming. I was gaming on 2cm. I've been working my way up and am around 12cm right now and it feels amazingly easy to get kills and be consistent. Started computer gaming when I was deployed and I'd have to use the part of the laptop right below the keypad as my mouse pad so I have a lot to unlearn from those years.
Awesome approach. I am sitting on 38-40cm for roughly 2 years now and I am feeling very comfortable but not 100% optimal with it. This is the video I needed, outstanding work and great new approach of taking things into consideration. I will optimize and see what happens! 🎉
I am normally at 45-46cm and it is my go to with my play style. I do like to switch it up and aim train with varying cm to get better mouse control.
While I don't know anyone playing on a sens as high as 5cm/360, there is a very high rated kovaaks player and a 3-role rank 1 ow coach who uses 8cm/360 and his aim is insane.
I think the philosophy behind high sens is simply different. I think its more based on hand-eye coordination and being able to alighn the crosshair with your target as fast as possible.
How do I find the exact feeling? What is your process when doing so?
Been waiting for this since the community post!
26cm/360 for me. I also always set the FoV of a game to somewhere between 68 (FoV in CS) and 75 degrees. For me the combination of those two settings feels right and the minor differences between the FoV ranges doesn't take long for my brain to naturally adapt, even when rapidly swapping between them.
It makes a lot of sense (pun intended) to have one best feel across the board per person.
what program are you using here 0:40 ? whatever it is that's displaying your cm/360.
That's just some text I added when editing those clips. I would find my cm/360 by using a calculator like this aiming.pro/mouse-sensitivity-calculator (just use the left side and show advanced)
and/or by physically measuring the distance my mouse moves when rotating 360 degrees in-game.
What do you think of the black ops 6 mouse sensitivity option of relative/legacy?
super fun video idea bro
finally a good sens video
I have always thought about this! :O
Struth, can you collab with Viscose on some Aiming content?
To use the recommended settings in this video, what sensitivity to use at 1600 dpi on Overwatch at 1440p?
It would be between 1.9 and 2.45 for 35-45cm/360~
Im surprised you didnt mention more about focal length scaling when it comes to sens at different FOVs. When you showed the different sens you play at depending on the game based on "feeling", it actually kind of lines up due to focal length scaling from the different FOVs those games have.
It's tricky deciding what to include in each video, because there are both aiming veterans and beginners watching them. If I elaborate on every topic the videos go forever and it can be overwhelming.
You're totally right about the sensitivities on different FOVs sort of lining up with focal length scaling. What's galling is that it doesn't line up perfectly. If I convert my hipfire sensitivities between FOVs with focal length scaling, it never quite feels right. When going to lower FOV, the converted sens is too slow, and when going to higher FOV the converted sens feels too fast. Despite this, it feels great for ADS/Scope (so why not hipfire?)
The sensitivity I use on a particular FOV usually sits somewhere between the direct cm/360 conversion and the focal length conversion. I unfortunately don't have any robust conclusions about this yet.
What's your sensitivity actually(mouse dpi and in game sens)?... Is you use per optic scope sensitivity or is it 1 like everyone?
So for a game like valorant
what will benfit me the most?
playing on 40cm per 360?
or playing on 45?
Awesome explanation Thank you!
Never knew all that stuff, but intuitively I always was around 38cm in majority of games as it turns out :D. But weirdly enough in cs I had 74cm for 360
I play on about 43cm in every game except Val and CS. Idk why, but in those games I just cannot be accurate enough to hit shots. Every other game my aim is like best in lobby consistently
I expected the results to be very off of what is normally used by players, but you've hit the mark really close, as generally around ~40cm for hero shooters like overwatch/apex and ~60cm for tacfps games like csgo or val is very standard. cheers!
I havnt watched the video yet 🤪but pretty sure I play on 41cm/360 and it feels a little slow for really fast paced games and It feels like a work out to move my mouse fast and far enough to be competitive!
Struth thank you so much for this video ,it changes my approach to cetain games.
what monitor coefficient works best for you in bo6 ?
0% (focal length scaling) is my favourite
So are these numbers for "hip fire" or ads? I guess that's the part that's always thrown me off. For example, if it's hip fire then should ads on average be 60% of that or something?
The numbers are based off hipfire. For ADS/scope, I recommend using focal length scaling. The tricky thing is knowing which games support it or not. The default of 1 in Apex does, so you don't need to change anything. If a game offers a monitor coefficient setting you can choose 0% which is focal length scaling.
Great video, loved it! I think there arises a problem with the advice that you can find the perfect sensitivity for you based on feeling because that just means you found a sensitivity that feels the best for you not the one that is objectively the best for you. For example you can get used to lots and lots of wildly different sensitivities just by playing on them a lot.. So this "perfect" sensitivity that you find using your feeling changes based on what sensitivity you're used to currently, what feels the most like home to you so I think you end up with a biased sensitivity that isn't truly perfect in performance, just perfect in feeling.
You're totally right and I've actually made a video on this idea before too. If you look at the average cm/360 of pro players and their DPI, they directly correlate.
Higher DPI = Higher sens
Lower DPI = Lower sens
In my opinion this is because the DPI in general PC use and in game menus develops that comfort which then influences what sens in-game feels most comfortable.
@@StruthGaming Yeah I think I saw that one too and that indication is really interesting and yeah you're probably right, I've had the same thought as to why DPI does that. Great one as well. I also noticed this by myself way before and have been "manipulating" my preferred sensitivity feeling to a much higher one than usual for agility, comfort and longevity/consistency of average accuracy over long gaming sessions(no or less fatigue). I've had lots of fun, it kinda rekindled my love for aiming doing this. My main senses over the years have gone from 77cm/360 all the way over to 15cm/360.
wont your arms get tired faster while holding the weight at 60 grams all the times
pls reply
60cm here in Cs. For vertical aiming, tracking, and target switching games this makes sense.
61cm~ for me in CS. Anything around 40 would be WAY too fast for me, I didn't expect that to be the "general sweet spot" tbh, even when I play faster games I go slower than that.
Amazing video, me personally my endgame sensitivity is 30cm/360 like 2.84 in COD at 1600 DPI. I never had more fun on a mouse sens till now. My main is the Viper V3 Pro btw.
Same man! It's better than anything I've tried before. It allows for precise shots at distance but doesn't sacrifice the snappiness at closer range.
Rally nice video
I may be a bit of an outlier but personally I've tried every sens from the lowest of lows to the highest of highs and I've found that a higher sens works better for me. Around 40cm/360 just feels extremely sluggish and like I can't do any of the movements I actually want to do. Currently I'm running at 800dpi with a sens of 9 in game in Ultrakill with an FOV of 103 which gives me 25.4cm/360, in Valorant to get that same sens I'm using 0.643 and it feels really good for me. Ultrakill is a game that requires alot of movement though and I also play Jett alot in Valorant so could be part of it.
10:22 - Are you playing in EU servers? Rizzard of Oz crutching R3 in Mixtape has to be me.
Hopefully this video would give many a piece of mind to some who are stressing a little too much over sensitivity. And as a fellow "aimer" i do agree with that range being a sweetspot with only exception being Static Clicking if you look at few popular scenarios on Kovaaks/Aimbeast. Works great for most other categories and games - not too slow to react, not too fast to sacrifice too much precision/accuracy.
So basically this was 10 minutes worth of "do what feels best for you" with some extra steps. lol
I love bro science on highly subjective topics!
I'm about 23cm on Deadlock using a PSA method to find it. I was 25cm when playing shooters competitively back in 2013
may i know ur scope mulitplier in apex?
Default '1' which uses focal length scaling
For a lot of games I use 50cm/360 on a 500x500 pad
I've been PC gaming for years and I still suck on mouse, I've been playing on 40cm for a little while and I'm much better. I'm also getting a new desk soon because I've seen a video on ergonomics that showed I've had all the wrong setup for years, hopefully that'll help too
i am new to fps training. i would really like to know how many dpi 45cm/360 is
Your mouse DPI is a separate number to the 45cm/360. It's basically a setting on your mouse that determines how 'fast' it is. It's usually in steps of 400/800/1600/3200. Your mouse likely has a button somewhere on it to change this, or has software for the mouse where you can see and change it.
Depending on the game you are playing, your DPI and the in-game sensitivity will help you figure out your cm/360. If you go here -aiming.pro/mouse-sensitivity-calculator
Enter your game of choice in the left side (ignore the right hand side as we're not converting anything). Hit 'show advanced' enter your current mouse DPI and type in 45 into the cm/360 field which will show you the in-game sensitivity needed to = 45cm/360.
Hope that helps!
@StruthGaming couldn't have explained it better. Thank you so much
Nice!!
you can't show this! people will begin to realize mouse aim is basically motion controls and they will hate on it!
So what Sens and DPI is 41.3cm/360 on BO6?
DPI can vary. But if you were using 800 DPI it would be 4.19 ingame.
@@Vakarian269 Thank you sir! I figured I was close, I am usually at 5.5 or 6 in game with 800dpi. I may have to try a little lower!
isnt it a visuomotor?
What's your windows mouse speed ? 6 or 10 ?
I don’t wanna relearn my sens after using mine for years, I got real comfortable using 15-20 caz of the space lim I had for my mousepad when I was a kid and it just stuck
funnily enought in apex the 1x ads at 110 ingame fov and 37.7 cm is 50.1cm so id agrue that unless u hipfire upclose apex players and valorant players have the same cm360 in alot of situations
I like the sens it gives me when I input 1600 dpi 3.333333 but that dosent even fit in overwatch 2 any help I’m new to kbm
I just checked mine and its about 41 on average
Struth, what’s your opinions on monitor coefficient? As there are different values I see some MNK players playing at 0 I see some at 1.33 I see some on 1.78 🤷♂️
I'm a fan of 0. Focal length scaling has the most sound reasoning behind it. Plus, if I play a new game without a coefficient option, I almost always land on an ADS sens that aligns with 0% upon later conversion.
@ awesome thank you.
I’ve got your claw grips, Sydney based gamer. It’s helped my aim heaps, I’ve got. A claw / palm hybrid approach now.
I play MNK on XBOX, I can’t aim train which sucks I can’t wait to get a PC so I can dial in my skills, I’ve followed all your advice about posture etc and it all helped so thank you ✌🏽
@@StruthGamingwhat ads scaler usually lines up with 0 ?
The bell curve is seen everywhere.
30=50cm depending if u gotta speed or control pad is good for any game
61cm/360
Got a 140cmx60cm mousepad though, still hit my 60HE sometimes even with my monitor being mounted
Azeron switch when?
I’ve been stable at 50cm/360 (1.0 at 800DPI in most games) but I’ll challenge myself to move to 40. Thanks.
im happy with my 8cm/360 on every game
8 CM GANG
You are quite literally at a disadvantage. Top aim trainer players say nobody should ever use a sens higher than 20 cm in any game. There is 0 gains for using a sens that high. Unless you are doing multiple 360s in a row for some odd reason.
@@JohnDOe-ke9cw yeah i trickshot
even though im at a disadvantage i can still aim smoothly lol just gotta press hella hard on your mouse ik it fucks up your wrist but its the only way to achieve smoothness on that sens
@@JohnDOe-ke9cw i know i am plat on voltaic benchmarks and i can't even get gold on 8cm it is just fun as a casual fps enjoyer
Me, who recently swapped from approx 43.3cm/360 to approx 66.6cm/360 and is finding it working better for me in Overwatch, CoD, Battlefield and any other shooty bang bang I throw at myself: Hmmm... Fuck.
It's most likely because the lower your sens gets the less mouse control you need to make it work.
(This is called a skill issue)
@@aquanos yup 66.6cm/360 is unrealistic in cod and overwatch ☠
@@eMaverick. very
I play CS2 at 108cm/360. I can assure you 66cm is not problematic.
@@DifficultFryingPan Tbf, Ryujehong, the Zenyatta main in S1 of Overwatch League who was best known for his ability to 180 and one shot flankers with an orb volley was somewhere around 70-80cm/360.
im weird and run about 15cm/360 in the modern cod titles and about 75cm/360 in csgo/cs2
Just checked my CS cm/360 and its 57
What mouse is that !
Looks like EGG OP1we
I played in the 96cm to 7cm range 🙃
I use 83cm/360° as long as it suits the gameplay (Counter-Strike of course, but not only). I don't play fast FPS games like COD
Hello my fellow 80+cm/360° player. Was high sens before then trained with 100cm/360 for better crosshair placement slowly increased it to 82. How did you arrive to such low sens?
@@Tritone_b5 Hey there, fellow low-sens enjoyer! I switched to this sensitivity after realizing how much control and precision it offers, especially for tracking and crosshair placement. The transition was gradual-started higher, then kept lowering as I focused on refining mechanics and building muscle memory. It forces you to rely on deliberate, consistent movements rather than quick flicks, which massively improved my aim consistency over time. It's all about that balance between precision and comfort!
@@seifergamer057 Yea I was the same, always with the quick flicks before. My aim is more consistent than with high sens. As a side effect all other games feel so high sens though.
@@Tritone_b5 I feel you, man. Once you get used to low sens, everything else feels like you're skating on ice. It’s wild how muscle memory gets so locked in. The upside? When you stick to it, even in other games, you’ll notice your precision carries over with time. It’s just an adjustment phase. Low sens is the patience grind, but the payoff is killer.
Ive ran around 10cm for 15-20 years. Never had issues getting highest ranks in competitive games etc. Although I can admit it's not optimal.
This is why i quit sensitivity too many sweats
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Now do it accounting for mouse accel
Well, hmmmm. My sense on black ops 6 current cod. Is 4.5 @ 1600dpi. Which with the calculator is 19.24cm/360. 😂
Is that bad? I manage a 2+kd. So is it working or am i just used to it? I do also use a glass pad.
glass pad + fast sens is wild lmaoo you should multiply that sens by 2 to be enjoying the glasspad benefits
@KarmaOTS so I should jump to 3200dpi? Or my sense should be 8-9? Or should my sense be 2 in game? 😂
Don't worry I'm on 5 @ 1400 X axis and 2000 Y axis 🤣
@@TheRedMarauder i said multiply i meant divide, multiply x2 your cm/360
@KarmaOTS ah gotcha. :)
This is the end all be all for mouse sens, stick between 33-40 and maybe higher for CS and Val. End of story . Unless you step into Mouse Acceleration.
Mfw on 4000 DPI
I'm 25cm/360 at 3200 DPI
Those of us who use mouse accel. If you know, you know😉
watched a video and it was pretty much 40/360
I am over here using 48cm/360 lol
Criei in High sens😢
What is 40cm ish in dpi?
Uhhhhh.... 😂
Mate I'm super scared of changing my sensitivity, I'm using a 51cm sens and its really comfortable for me
What works, works. Don't ruin your virgin muscle memory because of pure testing purposes. You've probably landed on that sens for a good reason, because it feels good, and the feeling is all that matters.
@@k1ttyyh what was the virgin comment for? Really not cool dude
*Perfect sensitivity:*
◇You must be able to do at least 180 turn in one swipe.
◇If you do two 360 turns in one swipe, it is way too fast.
Wait till you hear about kovaaks leaderboard players and their 1 - 10 cm shit
While adjusting to a target comfortably after a 360*
@@bigjerome-wz4uoliterally was gonna say this lmao I’m An aimlabs leaderboard player and amongst the top 30 I’ve seen either have insanely fast or insanely slow or literally a few cms off of what my sensitivity is
@@shooternerd they jus flexing lmaoo
how about valorant guys, im using 4:3 res (1280*960) btw
The question then is in say apex, do you keep your per optics within that range or just your hipfire. Personally i calculated a 1.16 ads multiplier at 110 fov gives a similar feel for sensitivity by going off pixels per 360