Tasting HIPSTER Wines - Am I cool enough for these wines?
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I use this wine key: Laguiole en Aubrac Wine Key Ebony
I have used this glass in this Video: RIEDEL Veritas Champagne
I have tasted the following wines in this Video:
Dhondt-Grellet Les Terres Fines Blanc de Blancs Premier Cru Extra Brut Champagne, France:
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2018 Evelyne & Pascal Clairet Domaine de la Tournelle Arbois Fleur de Savagnin Jura, France:
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2013 Radikon Jakot Venezia Giulia IGT Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Italy:
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2021 Arianna Occhipinti SP68 Sicilia Rosso IGT Sicily, Italy:
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2018 Domaine de l'Ecu Mephisto Loire, France:
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The 100 Point Scoring System (from www.robertparker.com):
96-100: An extraordinary wine of profound and complex character displaying all the attributes expected of a classic wine of its variety. Wines of this caliber are worth a special effort to find, purchase and consume.
90 - 95: An outstanding wine of exceptional complexity and character. In short, these are terrific wines.
80 - 89: A barely above average to very good wine displaying various degrees of finesse and flavor as well as character with no noticeable flaws.
70 - 79: An average wine with little distinction except that it is soundly made. In essence, a straightforward, innocuous wine.
60 - 69: A below-average wine containing noticeable deficiencies, such as excessive acidity and/or tannin, an absence of flavor or possibly dirty aromas or flavors.
50 - 59: A wine deemed to be unacceptable.
The wine world sometimes appears static but there are actually trends that come and go in wine. These trends usually originate from tastemakers like sommeliers, wine writers and influencers and they usually do not become mainstream or if they do they are not cool anymore. There is a style of wine that I would call hipster wine that is making the rounds.
Proponents of these wines would describe them as “authentic” and “real”
These wines are usually made in a traditional way sometimes using forgotten varieties and winemaking techniques, but they do not have to be natural wines - even though many of them are. They are in a way the reaction to the globalization of wine that was depicted in the movie Mondovino and that is usually associated with big and clean wines, made from international grape varieties by flying winemakers.
Robust orange wines like Radikon, Gravner, Princic, Movia, Rencel, etc pair very well with fried foods (Louisiana style chicken), high spice (heat) and ‘’new american’’ cuisine. It opened up a realm of possibilities for pairings. Definitely worth checking out!
Good to know, i have a Radikon and i never know how to pair it
Great video Konstantin. I worked in a restaurant just outside Arbois many years ago. The locals at that time were very proud of the region’s Marc du Jura and Vin Jaune. Perhaps a video in 2023 on Jura and its more contemporary styles.
Yes, I would love to make one on Jura alone
THIS. 100%. Jura is the bomb.
@@turmify Agreed.
Which restaurant ? Le grappiot ?
The one thing I love about all these so called hipster wines is that they are fun and its accessible for young adults trying to get into wine.
I do agree, and by the same token, I disagree with a point in the video that implies they become uncool once they gain mainstream success. That may be true in a sense, but not in a directly causal way. When these wines become super expensive as a result of the popularity they become less desirable, not merely due to the status of mainstream success.
I dont consider myself a hipster by any means. I think Adrien Dhodts champagnes are extraordinary, my understaning is he tries to bring body and concentration throught meticulous work in the vineyards, harvesting ripe grapes and obtaining considerable dry extract. To me this is much better than harvesting large yield of underripe grapes and correcting the harsh acids with higher dosage, but to each their own.
Oh, Radikon is my favourite wine! Amazing, rich and very unique wine.
Mine too!!
Surprised and pleased to see one of Arianna Occhipinti's wines on this list. Her single vineyard Frappato's are insane.
Absolutely, incredible how fresh and vibrant their wines taste
yeah man, that's a great wine
@@JackRosei I was just about to say that. Her Frappatto is one of the best i have ever tasted. i enjoyed a bottle last week actually.
@@yeovildancer did you cellar it or enjoy it young?
Did you age or enjoy it young?
Another fun video. Thank you Konstantin.
Konstantin started the year in a great note! Nice video with a hip theme. 2023 seems to be a great year!
Couldn't agree more!
Brilliant and hilarious! Love your content, it's really enjoyable and entertaining.
So grateful for your channel. I get to taste the world vicariously through you. Thank you!
I would like to try more French wines this year.
You are so welcome!
Very cool concept! Shoutout Leon for all the sourcing 🎉
Hehe thanks man !
Some of my favorite wines are of the Savagnin Ouille style, but I'm yet to taste the one in this video. Will most definitely be on the look out for it. Great video as always!
Great selection & tasting!
Enjoyed this video. I would love you to do a video/deep dive on wines from Abruzzo; specifically Montepulciano. Awesome work as always!!
I second this.
Hello from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪. Love the content
Really appreciate your style.
Merci
Cheers, Marc D
Great video! Would love to see a video going more in depth on reduction in wine and maybe some examples of it in a tasting!
Great suggestion!
"The natural wine movement will die a natural death", quoted by Michael Hill Smith MW.
Being in France, I had the chance to taste all the french wines in the video by my Natural wine geek friends, and I kind of agree with you on the tasting notes... Especially Domaine de l'Ecu, because I think the price justifies the rarity of the cuvée but not the quality, however his Malbec is nicer... Happy New Year Kostantin 🍷🍾🥂
I love seeing jura wines getting attention, it is my favourite wine region, and a beautiful place to visit.
Happy New Year!!🎉 best wishes.
Love your channel Konstantin. Could you please do some more Spanish wines, or a special on different Spanish regions?
Oh dear I think I might be a hipster! I have a few bottles of Savagnin from Jura and a bottle or two from Domaine de l'ecu, this was an entertaining video, I am looking forward to opening a nice bottle of champagne as I was ill over the holidays with flu and did not have a chance to enjoy a nice glass of bubbly
I just started watching you content and LOVE IT! It's very informative and enjoyable to watch with a glass of wine! What is your opinion on wine aerators? Use them?
Really nice video. Here in south america wines made from the País grape (aka Criolla Chica in Argentina and Mission in US) are the "hipster" thing of the moment. Very fresh and low alchool reds for the summer...I love it.
in South America people drink wine with Coca-Cola
The quality of these wines, especially in relation to their prices confirms my opinion of hipsters' wine choice in general.
I don't look for "cool" or "hip" or " a new find", I just look for quality at a good price point.
Riesling from the Saar, Carmenere from Chile, Shiraz from Barossa and Merlot from Francs Côtes de Bordeaux.
Very interesting and... honest tasting.
I love this video!! Hedonism Wines in London have a whole cave full of artisan wines from avant garde producers; they're intriguing to look at! Thank you for shedding light on the subject; they're clearly worth a try!
The other side of the story on low alcohol wines in Sicily is that the vines actually shut down due to the extreme heat (this is particularly true for these hands-off-approach-type wineries). Occhipinti's wines are quite lively and - from experience - tend to lose the reduction after a good swirl. Agree on the pricing, but I guess that's what the hype-culture creates.
My girlfriend Is from Gorizia and radikon cellar Is in Collio Hills near Gorizia on the boarder with Slovenia.. that area Is really famous for orange wines.
JAKOT read backwards is TOKAJ. That’s one of the ways winemakers in this area got around the issue of Hungary banning everyone else but them from using this word for wine.
Jura is becoming so popular right now that is not hip anymore. Wish I can get my hands on papa Overnoy though!
This is really cool and entertaining - do include food pairing notes to broaden our experience 😚☺
Happy new year Konstantin! This year, I would love to drink (and see a video from you) wines from newer wine regions that can now produce good wines due to global warming: heard England is producing some really good sparklings, even still Chardonnays. Heard there are attempts in the Nordic European countries, etc …
As far as wines I will NOT be seeking: orange wines. I have tried a lot this year but I just don’t appreciate them; I really don’t understand why they are so popular and fashionable but to each his own I suppose. I guess I am just not hip enough 😢
Honestly, I still know nothing about wine and I'm just here for the tasting notes and your passion. Closest I'll personally get to a Wine is a Geuze or a Framboise so really just here enjoying anything you do regardless of the quality of the wine you talk about :D
I will be tasting Cheval Blanc 1985 with my brother in a couple of weeks, never tried this wine b4 and can't wait...
Well well well. Arbois (Fleur de Savagnin), Loire CF , Tokai Friulano and Sicily (COS Frappato) are all regions from which I tried wines that blew my mind 10-15 years ago. A lot of natural wine experimentation here, although not all of my discoveries were of the natural leaning - and I think the only other region I can think of that I encountered in those exploratory years (they still are to be fair) that you haven't covered is Beaujolais (Foillard).
As to what I want to try this year - hopefully something in my cellar will be mature enough to drink!
As I watch this, enjoying a 2018 Vincent Paris St Joseph Les Cotes. Blimey this is good!
Hi Konstantin, great video, I like it. Especially the Champagne sounds very interesting to me. What about a video which is more dedicated to "German Hipster Wines". That would something I am really interested in ....
I feel like the quality of SP68 changes a lot between vintages. The 2016 was excellent, but the 2017 was quite unpleasant. You should try the cuvée 'Siccagno' from Occhipinti, really an excellent wine!
Dhondt Grellet is one of the best producers from Champagne now. Buy some before it’s too late. My favorite, and i am from Champagne.
God damn it now I want some chicken with creamy morel mushroom sauce.
This video shows how narrative surrounding a producer usually effects the wine price: an "hipster" producer can sell his/her wine to an higer price point just because he/she is viewed as a cool producer by actual standards. That goes beyond the wine value, but "value" is a slippery concept, everyone determines "value" by different standards and different biliefs. Sooooo... ther's a wine for every palate and so be it! :)
Great video again! Speaking of Jura white wine, next time I would like to see you tasting traditional Sous-voile Jura white wines. Also I would like to know which food goes well with those wines.
I’m from Australia Konstantin and love my reds but I find myself gravitating and wanting to explore more Chablis.. I find good Chablis to be exquisite 😎
I'm probably the most random person on this channel, I rarely drink alcohol, let alone wine. But I loove these reviews. I also love how awesome the design of hipsters wines.
I really love that you are not afraid to downvote hipster booze when it's not good and call out XB Champagne as harsh when it is.
As for this year's plans, inspired by your favorite wine of this tasting I think I may revisit Jura, both ouillé and non-ouillé, which I have banned from my cellar a long time ago.
Lol, you banned Jura wines from your cellar? Congratulations, you just banned one of the best areas in the world 😂
@@mathiaslaustrup Oh I love the area, beautiful scenery. It's just the wines that are crap. 😜
No seriously, when I started my wine journey about 20 years ago no Jurassic wines appealed to me. As there was no cellar back then, there was no ban from it either. Since then there was so much to discover that it just didn't occur to me to re-assess my novice verdict. Thanks to Konstatin now seems a good time to do just that.
Happy you found your niche.
Awesome channel. But I haven't really seen much on South African wines. Value and quality surely almost unmatched. Get involved!
Thanks for another great video! What happened to your empty bottle of champagne?
Happy new year to you too 🎉 I have not seen all of your videos but have you ever tried (on camera) some really undercover wines that are not distributed internationally? I am from small winery 15k bottles with almost no eshop wines, only few wine shops and restaurants and I am looking for this kind of wines in my country. This wines I want to try this year because just like in our wines I can feel some special spirit and character in wines made this personally and by simple village farmers. What you think? 😊
I'm looking so much forward to have a first taste of the Argiano Brunello 2016 this year. I wanted to give the bottles a bit of time to relax before pulling the first cork. And that will happen some time this year :-)
I just managed to buy two bottles of Cerasuolo d'Avola "Grotte Alte" 2016 from Arianna Occhipinti (waiting for them to arrive) and I have a bottle of Frappato.
I really look forward to try those, as they seem to be very good wines!
I have some Sicilian origins, and I love Sicilian wines. Not because I'm hipster, but definitely because I love that country, and it has so many minor varieties to try!
Wines I would recommend you trying: the Malvasia Delle Lipari of Antonino Caravaglio: both the single Cru "Infatata", and the Occhio di Terra (orange). And his Passito version... I love it!
I recall having biodynamic organic wine as part of a paring at Michelin eatery in San Fran - it was XS hipster…and one of the wines (a Riesling) was cloudy, with acetone flavors - it was off, and yet the sommelier swore it was fine and the asinine other customers were raving. Frankly, they were dickheads. I love a good posh restaurant but avoid hipster…where the bread was like those KFC rolls and some tosser gives a speech about the lightness of the bread and how good natural fermentation is (generally, I’ll take preservatives, thanks😇).
What to try this year - I’d love to see a comparison of old world medium end vs new world high end equal blends or cab or Shiraz…from an Oz PoV, torbreck Laird or Runrig or Hentley clos otto or Woodland or Riddoch Cab Sauv…unfortunately Oz doesn’t do high end merlot so that’s out….compare to French, US and Chile/Argentina/Peru?
I have a thing for St. Laurent from Germany - Sauvignon Blanc from Loire and Weissburgunder from the Pfalz.
Had a thing for sicilian bio wine around Etna, super fresh and vibrant.
❤️ Loved your videos. The thing about these Hipster wines are that they're mostly available to everyone, not fancy. If you're curious to try wines of other cultures, I would recomend you to taste some Indian Red Wines:
(1) Sula Madera Red Wine
(2) SULA Dindori Red Wine
Great video. More of Leon on the channel please!
Also great point about salesmanship! I see more and more reasons to stay active in Toastmasters 😂😂 Maybe when I retire I can be a fun winemaker haha😂
Great video and awesome hipster hat. (Assuming it is not cold in your room.)
Hey Konstantin!
With you having mention the movie, maybe give us your thoughts on wine movies you have seen so far?
Konstantin, I'm a 77 year old resident of Vancouver and my love of wine is very simple, if the price is right and its from my province of British Columbia I will give it a try so my question to you is have you ever had any
Wine from here. I know that the wine industry here is very young and doesn't have history behind it...
Absolutely enjoy your videos and I'm a fan for life...
Cheers 👏👏👏🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
I live in Ontario, Canada, which is notorious for being a difficult place for overseas vineyards to sell their product based on lack of ability to meet volume requirements. It is very frustrating. I always look for wines that you review, but it is difficult. I do plan to buy the Viña Cubillo I saw on a video. I can get that! Have you tried many Canadian wines? We certainly haven’t reached a great standard yet in my very inexperienced and humble opinion, but there are a few diamonds in the rough. We tend to drive to the Finger Lakes in New York. They have some excellent wines! Love your channel! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Ryan - try some of our BC wines, especially from the South Okanagan. World class… but usually small producers that are not exported and are even hard to find in liquor stores in BC itself. Impossible to find an Ontario. Sometimes better luck in restaurants and ordering from the wineries directly.
I have tried some Niagara Cabernet franc and it was very good. It was from Pearl-Morissette. Sure, here in Europe it was kinda expensive when you compare to the competition from Loire but it was very enjoyable
Go go saq
Ho Kanada our home and Marxist land true north strong police state
@counselthyself I haven’t had much wine from BC to be honest. A couple from the Okanagan Valley. Anything you might suggest??
Wohoo! Intimations of mortality there,Konstantin! Worry not, Sir; if the wine ain't hip enough, you're STILL the man to say.. 🌟👍
Really glad u didn't rate some personal favs of mine quite high, so they stay under the radar.
However, I think they deserve better. Just my 2 cents.
On the other hand, may I correct you on the SP68. It's not an altitude wine, it's not Etna, it's Vittoria, near Ragusa, south tip of the island, practically sea level. They've told me over there that the freshness on the vineyard is kept by the relentless south wind that blows perennially on that region. Go figure.
And, hey, you don't remove the wax before uncorking the "waxy" bottles!
Loving your channel.
Not sure if I will manage to do so because everything in live became so expensive during the last month but I hope to be amble to drink (or at least buy) one of the following wines this year:
- A madeira or port from the 19th Century
- Le Pin
- Clos de Tart
Think it might be the last one because it seems to be the most affordable of these.
I'm from Sicily. There are definitely some great wines here. I didn't really like that particular bottle from Occhipinti either. There is a great bottle I've tried it is called G. Milazzo Duca Di Montalbo. 2007 Vintage.
I totally agree regarding the extra-brut/zero-dosage trend. Often these wines would be outstanding with 3g more sugar per l. Instead they mostly live from their freshness. Which is nice, but not great.
I've seen this in Craft Beer too, Brut IPA was nice once or twice, but were really lacking in complexity due to the lack of sweetness to balance them out.
Totally agree! You might like the interview with Peter Liem on I'll drink to that! (podcast). I felt so strengthened in my, unpopular, opinion after haha.
Because sugar/dosage was a way to hide a bad maturity in the grapes. Now that winemakers take care in the vineyards, the need to add sugar is less prevalent.
I prefer the Radikon "Sivi" from those culty cool guys, but sometimes the Jakot is all I can get. Im just a chick from Kansas trying to keep up. I am pretty surprised that Frank Cornelissen did not make the hipster cut..???
Cornelissen was hipster five years ago, I think that phase is a bit over now.
Hi Konstantin; 3 mins in and surprised about the R/S for this wine - 2g/l - doesn't that fall into the drier category than Extra Brut in Champagne? (3-6g/l?).. Just checking...
Might I suggest a comparitive tasting of German Sekt?
Suggestion: Top 10 Sweet Wines / Top 10 Savoury Wines
Hey Konstantin, have you heard of historische Rebsorten? They are producing wines with old grape varities for example Schwarzblauer Riesling. If have never tried one of those wines but definitly worth a tasting i would say ☺️ Do you know those wines?
Another great video, thank you Konstaning and Leon 🙏
Back to your question - I wanted to try ehm Petrus this year but having second thoughts after you video, maybe next year, perhaps? 🤭 On more serious note, is it appropriate to ask if there is any "dupe" or similar/next vineyard, that can give similar taste experience? Actually, question is: is it possible to have, raoughly speaking, "subsitutes" for Petrus, Latour etc? Would be very interesting to hear you elaborate on this 🙏
For sure: Lafleur, VCC, Trotanoy, Clinet & friends get similar ratings and are far less expensive-but they ain‘t cheap either!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Perfect, thank you.
Ch. Gazin right next door to Petrus. 2009 if you can get it.
Would have been nice to see some Sasucaru wines reviewed here, would have fit the requirements for the videoz😂👍
Tolles Video. Realistische Einschätzung.
in 2023 sind bei mir die 2010er und 2015er Bordeaux angesagt. Und insbesondere der Spaßwein 2005er Ch. DuTertre.
This year I try crazy stuff, namely wines that hardly ever occur in the wine world, such as Verntasch or Trollinger in 0:10 a good quality 😂
Off Subject - what brand of corkscrew do you have? I'm thinking about buying one of the expensive Laquiole brands?
I really liked a Dhondt-Grellet a couple of years ago. I think it was the same bottling. If I have a choice, I still prefer a richer style unless it's a good BdB. To a certain extent I feel okay supporting some of these grower producers even if they aren't my favorite because I want to see more options in the US market, which is drowning in Veuve yellow label. At least here in Texas, bars and restaurants charge huge prices for the Veuve when I know they are getting it for a pretty low cost based on volume.
Wow these are my kind of wines. Arianna Occhipinti wines are amazing but I feel that her partner Eduardo Torres does a Nerello Mascalese that simply incredible
Looking on auction sites for 20+ year old Burgundy and lesser known Bordeaux wines to experience how they age in bottle...any tips or recommendations for someone not willing to pay more that £50 a bottle?
Speaking of hipster hype, I recently picked up a few natural wines from the Serbian wine maker, Bikicki (Uncensored, MOMA & Sfera). Would be cool to have a video on the Balkan region and whether it can produce high quality wines.
I totally agree that most people don’t do Extra Brut or Brut Nature super well. Nice selection. It’s funny, on wine press trips, after seeing the stuff we’re shown, somms and wine writers always want to go to a hipster natural wine bar.
I don’t object, some of the most ethereal experiences I’ve had in wine are with these wines like Vin Jaune’s and a 2002 Radikon Ribolla. Good selection, I’m a big fan of Occhipinti’s Contrada Frappato and her Siccagno Nero d’Avola.
I’m a huge fan of l’Ecu, cool guy indeed! The rockstar natural winemakers are big personalities indeed.
Did you change lighting too???
This year I definitely want to try wines from Umbria, most notably Grechetto, Spoleto, and Sagrantino!
New year new wines, looking at trying more wine from the Americas
I've been quite impressed by Domaine de l'Ecu Carpe Diem, which is 100% Melon de Bourgogne but nothing like your average Muscadet.
What movie are you referring to??
Gravner is another to try in the orange wine genre
Yes it would be interesting se a tasting of Gravner, and Dario Princic. But wines like that should be left in the glass, or a decanter, for a while to "open" to get the full experience in my opinion.
Great video……and I must be a hipster as I’ve had three of the 5. Or maybe not….since I wasn’t born in this century 😂😂.
Many of the more distinct "orange wines". Like Radikon should be left in the glass a little while, or a decanter for at least 30 minuttes to give full experience. Before that they are quite "closed" and can give of a cellar like, or slighty musky flavour.
Wha is your oppinion about "Clef Du Vin"?
Dissing on Radikon means war (kidding, great video)
I'm curious about Dolcetto and St. Laurent. I will do some Nebbiolo, Spatburgunder, and Graciano.
Extra brut and brut nature champagnes are titally trending right now in the region. I agree that this doesnt always work, especially if you have harsher, colder years and the grapes arent that sweet.
I'm sure someone has asked this before, but how are you able to open so many bottles at once? Do you make these tasting on different days, or do you share them with others?
throwing away
Drinking, sharing and some goes down the drain.
Can you make review of the wines from Cedric Bouchard? Pure class grower champagne
This year i want to taste wines from New Zealand. Hawke's Bay, bordeaux blends. Maybe compare Pinot Nor differences between North island's Wairarapa and Central Otago in the South.
I had the radikon merlot and it tasted like old salad dressing... idk what im missing.
Wait! Radikon was around before the hipsters even existed! 😂
Informative and entertaining! I sell wine to the public, and enjoy it immensely [drinking and selling]. I'm looking for reasonably priced Ruche wines. Have had a dozen or so, and only maybe two that I'd buy again. Your experience? Mahalo!
Love that you tried the "hip" wines but your intern chose the wrong ones! I would pick Gut Oggau, Jean Yves Peron (high end), Frank Cornelisson, Alessandro Viola...
Frank Cornelisson? I second that.
some natty bangers there mate 🦄❤️🏀🏀🏀🔥🔥🔥
I visited the Domaine de l'Ecu a few months ago ... I would much rather recommends the white wines there (Taurus for example). The wax thing is a pain in the rear tbh 🙂