That was like 10 years ago bro, it’s a budget company early issues are pretty much to be expected(you are the beta test lol). I don’t trust any budget companies guns until they’re out for a few years and start getting good reviews
@@davidchristner7291 Their RAS 47 belongs at the top of the shittiest ak's ever made in terms of being unsafe and quality. Im with Dannysmith. F century arms and all the shills who pushed their in house AKs.
@@ARFCOMReviewsI’d argue not. PSA bolts are 74 pattern fitting an AKM pattern trunion with a 1mm difference causing premature wear I’ve seen many of those rifles lose headspace at 600 rounds it is not a good 5.56 AK at all.
I got one for yeah. I was shooting my PSL in 54R and was pleasant on the recoil. I changed over to my Polytech AK47 and it was beating the crap out of my shoulder. I haven’t shot it in a while and it never did that before. I would shoot the Poly all day and no problems on the shoulder in the past. I did put a phantom flash hider on it. That was the only thing that was different on it. I guess the muzzle attachments make a huge difference. Also shooting my 91/31 Mosin and no problems with the recoil either. Makes no damn sense! 😂
I appreciate the effort of century arms but why not go Galil Ace . I feel like a Galil is like a Cognac . Not every Brandy / AK is a Cognac/ Galil . But every Cognac/ Galil is a Brandy / AK . I wish someone would make a more affordable or even lighter Galil Ace
Because men in America are trying to shoot faster and more accurately than kids in Pakistan Nobody it arguing that there is too much recoil to shoot anything, they're arguing that less recoil is better than more recoil
I don't think this comes off as the flex you think it does 🤣🤣🤣 thr last time a bunch of grown ass AK guys in Pakistan ran into dudes with ARs the score board told the tale 😂
@@ARFCOMReviewsThere is an other story about AR guys running into AK guys in the Ukraine. The main problem was, as I heard, that those AK guys had air-, artillery- and drone superiority, not superiority complex what the AR guys had after they smoked pakistani AK guys in flipflops. I heard that a bunch of those AR guys are now enriching Russian soil.😂😂😂
Great video 👍 I have to say no thanks to CAI still pissed about some guns( poor build quality and incorrect barrels) I bought from them in the past. I do have a few CAI imports that where not manufactured by them just brought in and small changes done furniture and trigger etc.. not full built and manufactured by them. My imports from CAI are MAADI Misr10, Wasr10 2 of them, SAR-1, WASR M9.
Century has had heat treating issues in most all past models (receiver harder than bolt and carrier) which causes premature deformation of the bolt and carrier and loss of headspace. I would avoid as a first purchase until the data comes out from long term testing.
I wanted a 5.56mm AK and after looking I went with the Zastava offering, specifically a ZPAP85 Tactical that I since SBR’d. CNC Warrior makes great mods & upgrades for Yugo AKs.
What about US palm, sharps bros, ultimak? Though I definitely agree that century messed up some parts kits back in the day, but this is pretty far from those
@arfcomreviews definitely are, sometimes plenty of infighting like many things but most agree on century, im a fan of the sharps receiver and dont want the shade down on them they make a nice product and ive used their stand alone front trunnion in a build before and it turned out fantastic.
@ I respect Jim and his work as i know him personally. As far these parts used it on this built they are completely outdated. There are much better rail systems available as I said. But yea that’s for your 2 cents boomer
@@vodkanet7533 well the only AK I ever bought was a mak 90 cause of the commies. Liked it other than the thumbhole stock and no threads or possibility of a bayonet. Buts that's okay Sonny boy. Jim's the kind of boomer I grew up around in so cal. But I'm behind enemy lines and hope to have an influence to change things for the better. No I haven't met Jim but I like his IG rants.
@@ARFCOMReviews it is an opinion based on building and running a lot of AKs and ak products. The receiver is ok if you are wanting a milled receiver but everything is on that gun is it at behind the curve. There are much better choices out there
Are these related to the RH-10s or M-10s??? I couldn’t quite hear. Did he mention anything are the trunnions: cast vs forged, barrel: cold hammer forged/ chrome lined???
We went over that it has indeed transcended the need for trunnions 🤣 instead of of riveting a bunch of separate pieces of metal together, it's all one piece of milled material. The barrel is chrome lined to my memory lol I would recommend the product page for further questions
So...optics mounts vary widely but I tried to put a huge scope on my m70 and it shot terribly. It's not the gun, its the mount. I switched it out for a 2x10 and was maintaining 3in groups with various ammo. Even better with a vortex 3x prism (Spitfire Gen2), the more weight you put on the optic mount, the more it screws up. Something about leverage, something about AKs, they shoot better with the lighter optic you have due to the awkward mounting system. None of the groups produced by both the MB47 or the M70 would be satisfactory to me. Not for the price that they are today. The gun can do much better than its limitations of optics mounting.
Love the guys at ARFCOM, but David (or whoever runs his channel) blocked me from commenting on his channel. I was subbed to his nonsense for about 5 years, so unfortunately had to 👎 the video, he's one of those "believe in the 1st ammendment as long as you agree with EVERYTHING I say" type of people. Y'all have the right to have whoever you want on your channel but I have the right to not watch it, hope this doesn't become a common colab, bit you do you boo-boo.
@@ARFCOMReviews Yeah, I'm honest used to it, but still makes me a little salty, I'm just surprised y'all have banned me yet, I say some goofy ish sometimes, but it ain't just Andrew I love its all you guys.
Trying to get good groups out of Winchester white box is like trying to drive an ice cream truck around a race track Also why do you have the dot mounted like that? Bro that litterly comes with a low mount in the box stop being lazy and change out the dot mount
Please don't talk about MOA and mag dumps in the same video. If you want an MOA gun, treat it like a gun you want MOA accuracy out of. If you want a worthless lump of steel do mag dumps. Guys who do mag dumps 10 seconds after taking a new gun out of a box and then complain about accuracy have the intelligence of dirt.
Most AR-15s do this very well. I have a rosco barrel in my main gun that I can dump 3-4 mags in a row, let it cool off, and it still shoots 1 MOA with good ammo. That's not even an expensive barrel at all. Ive only got about 2K rds on it so far but unless your doing hundreds of rounds at once your probably gonna be able to keep groups tight.
Century just wasn't content with their last line up of future explosive devices were they??? And why buffer tube an AK? Is it 2012 again? *edit* And shit accuracy too? We know they cheaped out somewhere
I'm assuming they went with the buffertube to save cost as all the 1913 compatible stuff is like a billion dollars and would have driven up the cost for no appreciable increase in performance or ergos
Use case dictates value, and I respect consumers holding manufacturers accountable. This is part of my rather limited AK experience and this one of one was a positive one
@ARFCOMReviews 1: an AES-10B with a gas block tipped off about 10 degrees right. That rifle also frequently refused to extract. Contacted customer service and was told it was my problem. 2: a FAL sporter with a barrel AND gas block indexed crooked. Again contacted customer service and was told the 1 year warranty had expired while the rifle was still in their warehouse. I had bought it new the previous week. The owner of my local gun shop where i purchased it called them and had a stern conversation. The rifle went back to Century for "repair" and came back worse than before, as well as having pipe wrench scars on the barrel at no extra charge. With sights at full adjustment, the closest to zero it could get was 8 inches high and 10 inches right at 25 yards. At 100 yards the point of impact was in the mext county. The gun shop made sure i never had to see that thing again, and i scraped up some extra cash to upgrade to a DSA Stg58, which was an absolute doll. There is more, but i am typing on a phone... Century is a local company to me. They pay their employees crap, which means two things. 1: they do not attract of keep employees of any skill. 2: their employees are unhappy and indifferent about their jobs. Their garbage reputation accurately reflects the consequences of this.
Well the MB47 chambered in 7.62x39, and "outshooting people" has way more to do with training than choice of rifle. That being said, nobody at the highest level of any shooting competition or profession choose AKs for a reason unless their government makes them 🤣
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Their earlier guns AND SHITTY CUSTOMER SERVICE ruined me for life.
I can definitely see how some of the early guns could sour people's impressions. This was a pretty solid gun in our experience
That was like 10 years ago bro, it’s a budget company early issues are pretty much to be expected(you are the beta test lol). I don’t trust any budget companies guns until they’re out for a few years and start getting good reviews
What exactly was it that they did, or didn't do?
@@davidchristner7291 Their RAS 47 belongs at the top of the shittiest ak's ever made in terms of being unsafe and quality. Im with Dannysmith. F century arms and all the shills who pushed their in house AKs.
Ras47 lol ruined it for me
Oh, Century built another AK? You AR guys can fucking keep it…😂
😂lol
Countries who win wars use ARs 🤣
@@ARFCOMReviewsThe north Vietnamese and Taliban would like a word.
The better AK rifle for AR guys Is an AR rifle
That is ultimately the best choice 🤣
Sorry there, chief. The AK build for AR guys is literally the PSA AK556.
Newman pioneer arms right?
The PSA AK556 is another solid choice 😊 I have no experience with the pioneer arms rifle
@@ARFCOMReviewsI’d argue not. PSA bolts are 74 pattern fitting an AKM pattern trunion with a 1mm difference causing premature wear
I’ve seen many of those rifles lose headspace at 600 rounds it is not a good 5.56 AK at all.
My Galil Ace told me to not put this anywhere near it, I have to obey the chosen one.
🤣🤣🤣 The Galil Ace is not a bad choice at all
😂 AKs have recoil. Said an AR guy
I can dump 7.62x39 all day
I got one for yeah. I was shooting my PSL in 54R and was pleasant on the recoil. I changed over to my Polytech AK47 and it was beating the crap out of my shoulder. I haven’t shot it in a while and it never did that before. I would shoot the Poly all day and no problems on the shoulder in the past. I did put a phantom flash hider on it. That was the only thing that was different on it. I guess the muzzle attachments make a huge difference. Also shooting my 91/31 Mosin and no problems with the recoil either. Makes no damn sense! 😂
Good video Josh. I like the Ak looks cool. Hope to see footage from shot 2025.
Just started the video but they should've named it the MBP (Man Bear Pig) 47
I would have blessed that 🤣
I appreciate the effort of century arms but why not go Galil Ace . I feel like a Galil is like a Cognac . Not every Brandy / AK is a Cognac/ Galil . But every Cognac/ Galil is a Brandy / AK . I wish someone would make a more affordable or even lighter Galil Ace
Children in Pakistan can handle the recoil of 7.62x39 why can’t the men in America.
Because men in America are trying to shoot faster and more accurately than kids in Pakistan
Nobody it arguing that there is too much recoil to shoot anything, they're arguing that less recoil is better than more recoil
I don't think this comes off as the flex you think it does 🤣🤣🤣 thr last time a bunch of grown ass AK guys in Pakistan ran into dudes with ARs the score board told the tale 😂
@@ARFCOMReviewsThere is an other story about AR guys running into AK guys in the Ukraine. The main problem was, as I heard, that those AK guys had air-, artillery- and drone superiority, not superiority complex what the AR guys had after they smoked pakistani AK guys in flipflops. I heard that a bunch of those AR guys are now enriching Russian soil.😂😂😂
Yeah man wired flex 😂. You got roasted for sure
Thank you Sir.
I really like Sharps Bros stuff. Nice.
Thank you my good sir! And that receiver is super well put together!
There fine long as you don't need Customerservice there a joke when there's a issue !! Ask me how I know
That hand guard play is crazy
It's why we brought it up
Great video 👍 I have to say no thanks to CAI still pissed about some guns( poor build quality and incorrect barrels) I bought from them in the past. I do have a few CAI imports that where not manufactured by them just brought in and small changes done furniture and trigger etc.. not full built and manufactured by them. My imports from CAI are MAADI Misr10, Wasr10 2 of them, SAR-1, WASR M9.
Thanks for the feedback! I think the Sharps Bros receiver and US Palm inclusions made this a pretty nice rifle
Century has had heat treating issues in most all past models (receiver harder than bolt and carrier) which causes premature deformation of the bolt and carrier and loss of headspace. I would avoid as a first purchase until the data comes out from long term testing.
If that is the case then I would agree 👍
This isn't an AK for AK guys though!
This is a matter of opinion
@@ARFCOMReviews to be specific, AK guys who are mainly interested in tradicional Com Block manufactured AKs.
I wanted a 5.56mm AK and after looking I went with the Zastava offering, specifically a ZPAP85 Tactical that I since SBR’d. CNC Warrior makes great mods & upgrades for Yugo AKs.
I definitely think the Yugo AK are the only gig in town until the imports come back lol
that trigger pin slop though..lol
It's a feature not a bug 🤣
Saw the word century. Clicked to leave a hateful comment. Leaving without watching the video.
I accept the donation of comment and honesty 😁 thank you for your service lol
Yup.
Never again.
Good receiver for best stability by shot
Milled receiver is nice
It is pretty sweet
HEAVY
@@TheSuburban15 If that's your concern, add lightening cuts.
Don't waste your money, cai equals garbage for dollar. They ruined a lot of beautiful parts kits.
What about US palm, sharps bros, ultimak? Though I definitely agree that century messed up some parts kits back in the day, but this is pretty far from those
@ARFCOMReviews
Love my Palm ak magazines (with the steel lugs) I have a ton of them.
Can you swap the dust cover for some.of the newer railed tops like the mid west or the old tws dog leg dust covers
Yes it will accept most AK dust covers 😊
Where is the bolt-hold then?
There they left the better safety selector 🤣 on the AR
Rifle looks sweet but, only if someone else made it
🤣🤣🤣🤣
No true ak guy would grab an century ak , ar guys i suggest you stay away as well
"AK guys" are a tight group of dudes apparently. Shout out to y'all at least being together in opinions
@arfcomreviews definitely are, sometimes plenty of infighting like many things but most agree on century, im a fan of the sharps receiver and dont want the shade down on them they make a nice product and ive used their stand alone front trunnion in a build before and it turned out fantastic.
the rifle is composed of total boomer parts for us, those run aks. there are much much better setups - sureshot, zenitco etc
You do know that Jim Fuller is a boomer. Kinda pretentious in your insult.
@ I respect Jim and his work as i know him personally. As far these parts used it on this built they are completely outdated. There are much better rail systems available as I said. But yea that’s for your 2 cents boomer
This is an opinion
@@vodkanet7533 well the only AK I ever bought was a mak 90 cause of the commies. Liked it other than the thumbhole stock and no threads or possibility of a bayonet. Buts that's okay Sonny boy. Jim's the kind of boomer I grew up around in so cal. But I'm behind enemy lines and hope to have an influence to change things for the better. No I haven't met Jim but I like his IG rants.
@@ARFCOMReviews it is an opinion based on building and running a lot of AKs and ak products. The receiver is ok if you are wanting a milled receiver but everything is on that gun is it at behind the curve. There are much better choices out there
Are these related to the RH-10s or M-10s??? I couldn’t quite hear. Did he mention anything are the trunnions: cast vs forged, barrel: cold hammer forged/ chrome lined???
Apparently they have transcended the need to those since it wasn't mentioned AT ALL
We went over that it has indeed transcended the need for trunnions 🤣 instead of of riveting a bunch of separate pieces of metal together, it's all one piece of milled material. The barrel is chrome lined to my memory lol I would recommend the product page for further questions
I don't see how that is for AR guys. It's just a heavily modified AK.
Good gun but not for the AR guys. They need a full pic rail. Can't have that silly side mount. AR guys don't like those.
What he said 🤣
So...optics mounts vary widely but I tried to put a huge scope on my m70 and it shot terribly. It's not the gun, its the mount. I switched it out for a 2x10 and was maintaining 3in groups with various ammo. Even better with a vortex 3x prism (Spitfire Gen2), the more weight you put on the optic mount, the more it screws up. Something about leverage, something about AKs, they shoot better with the lighter optic you have due to the awkward mounting system. None of the groups produced by both the MB47 or the M70 would be satisfactory to me. Not for the price that they are today. The gun can do much better than its limitations of optics mounting.
This actually makes perfect sense! I will need to test this! Thanks for the insight 😊
Anyone else want a rail on the back vs a buffer tube?
Yes
CENTURY IS WORSE THAN PSA QC
There is definitely some history on that statement. This rifle at least worked perfectly and without issue, we are a sample size of one
I like it except muzzle brake
Fortunately it's a common 30 cal thread pitch so you can slap whatever you want on it 😊
Hard pass lol . I'll just get the Midwest industries furniture
Also not a bad choice
Zastava has a modernized am going for 1500 with a hundred dollar rebate on classic firearms.
Let’s make it interesting then shall we.??? Why not compare the mb to the m77in 308 with the longer barrel . 🤷🏻♂️let’s go ladys and gents
Let's compare that to an AR10 while we are at it 🤣🤣🤣
*.300 Blackout*
Now THAT would be cool
Love the guys at ARFCOM, but David (or whoever runs his channel) blocked me from commenting on his channel. I was subbed to his nonsense for about 5 years, so unfortunately had to 👎 the video, he's one of those "believe in the 1st ammendment as long as you agree with EVERYTHING I say" type of people.
Y'all have the right to have whoever you want on your channel but I have the right to not watch it, hope this doesn't become a common colab, bit you do you boo-boo.
And FWIW, I couldn't find the flat faced RAK-1 in stock anywhere, found the curved one but the flat faced version seems to be a phantom
I'm sorry you had that experience 😭
I just checked too and couldn't find the flat faced trigger. If I find a link I was share it with you 🥰
@@ARFCOMReviews Yeah, I'm honest used to it, but still makes me a little salty, I'm just surprised y'all have banned me yet, I say some goofy ish sometimes, but it ain't just Andrew I love its all you guys.
Should have tried a few different loads of ammo. It might have not liked the ammo you used.
I agree completely. We unfortunately didn't have time to get/try more types of ammo
4150 for the barrel? hope no one wants this as a hard use / duty rifle.
For the .0005 of people that actually shoot out barrels yes. Statistics say most people "aren't that guy" 🤣
Someone already said it.
Your heavy scope is to heavy for the mount.
This is why I love the comments section 🥰 thanks for keeping us honest!
Trying to get good groups out of Winchester white box is like trying to drive an ice cream truck around a race track
Also why do you have the dot mounted like that? Bro that litterly comes with a low mount in the box stop being lazy and change out the dot mount
Agreed and it was not our gun 🤣
Please don't talk about MOA and mag dumps in the same video. If you want an MOA gun, treat it like a gun you want MOA accuracy out of. If you want a worthless lump of steel do mag dumps. Guys who do mag dumps 10 seconds after taking a new gun out of a box and then complain about accuracy have the intelligence of dirt.
Well we looked at how it faired in both use cases. The gun is perfectly usable for mag dumps lol
Most AR-15s do this very well. I have a rosco barrel in my main gun that I can dump 3-4 mags in a row, let it cool off, and it still shoots 1 MOA with good ammo. That's not even an expensive barrel at all. Ive only got about 2K rds on it so far but unless your doing hundreds of rounds at once your probably gonna be able to keep groups tight.
Uhmmmm......... Clearly, you missed what Texas Weapon Systems is doing with their IK-101 in 5.56
Look up the YT reviews.
That appears to be a great rifle 😊
Look back at your video. The barrel never returned to center. Look closely.
The barrel actually never moved, it was the handguard that didn't return look closer lol
Century just wasn't content with their last line up of future explosive devices were they???
And why buffer tube an AK? Is it 2012 again?
*edit* And shit accuracy too? We know they cheaped out somewhere
I'm assuming they went with the buffertube to save cost as all the 1913 compatible stuff is like a billion dollars and would have driven up the cost for no appreciable increase in performance or ergos
fluted barrel on ak looks horrendous imo
I would take the weight savings on an AK pattern rifle
@@ARFCOMReviews nyet rifle is fine
that's a no from me dog
Thanks for leaving the comment at least 🥰
Century leaves a bad taste in the mouth of AK Guys, and AR Guys wont carry the weight of a milled receiver 😢😢😢
Use case dictates value, and I respect consumers holding manufacturers accountable. This is part of my rather limited AK experience and this one of one was a positive one
That would be the Primary Weapons Systems.
No comparison, PWS HANDS DOWN a far superior weapon
This is not a bad choice either
CenturyArms is nothing but trash.
I am ashamed to admit i have been burned by their junk more than once.
Never again.
I have seen this quite a bit in the comments section so far. This one of one was pretty solid, but what specifically was your experience?
@ARFCOMReviews
1: an AES-10B with a gas block tipped off about 10 degrees right. That rifle also frequently refused to extract.
Contacted customer service and was told it was my problem.
2: a FAL sporter with a barrel AND gas block indexed crooked. Again contacted customer service and was told the 1 year warranty had expired while the rifle was still in their warehouse. I had bought it new the previous week.
The owner of my local gun shop where i purchased it called them and had a stern conversation. The rifle went back to Century for "repair" and came back worse than before, as well as having pipe wrench scars on the barrel at no extra charge. With sights at full adjustment, the closest to zero it could get was 8 inches high and 10 inches right at 25 yards. At 100 yards the point of impact was in the mext county.
The gun shop made sure i never had to see that thing again, and i scraped up some extra cash to upgrade to a DSA Stg58, which was an absolute doll.
There is more, but i am typing on a phone...
Century is a local company to me.
They pay their employees crap, which means two things.
1: they do not attract of keep employees of any skill.
2: their employees are unhappy and indifferent about their jobs.
Their garbage reputation accurately reflects the consequences of this.
So a gay ak? Couldn't help it
It looks nice but that muzzle device is ugly
I’m sure they have it in pink finish also! 😂😂😂
Yes to all of the above 🤣🤣🤣
Ar simps cant handle ak's or handle ar10 recoil at all.
🤣 right, whatever makes you feel better
@ARFCOMReviews it's the truth, 💯
@@ARFCOMReviews let me guess, you are one of those simps, who Crystal about ak's being over gas to. When they are not🤣🤣🤣
An AK for girly men.
Like You? Yeah ok, Cool.
Is this a She/Her or They/Them ak?
This comment made my day 🤣🤣🤣
Well if your running a ak then you have come out of the closet so I guess ...yeah for ak curious dudes
You mean that a AK guy with a 556 AK out shoots 80% of the stock AR guys means nothing okay.
Well the MB47 chambered in 7.62x39, and "outshooting people" has way more to do with training than choice of rifle. That being said, nobody at the highest level of any shooting competition or profession choose AKs for a reason unless their government makes them 🤣