Yeah didn't he play the warden in silence of the lambs or something, such a shitty fucking actor, when he dubbed sauron the Lord of the rings in the last episode that was it for me 🤦🏻
The Orcs using his body as psychological warfare waving his corpse as the banner of Sauron’s forces One of the first horrific images imagined by my mind as a youngster while reading the words of another person. Terrified disgusted and angered me all at once as a surge of emotions. Probably the first time i realized the power of great writing
I think Maedhros being hanged from a mountain by his arm did that to me. And it happened for a second time when I started to read the lore on the internet and realized he's been there for 30 years :o
@@herher889 you clearly didn’t read the books. Tolkien talks about orcs reproducing and having families. Even if you only read the hobbit you would know that Bolg was the son of Azog
as long as you don't watch it, it's okay! but, don't you curse here, but you also go to peek at the show! 🗿Shame on you 🙊Absolute stupidity is nesting in people like you! 😂🔥😂
It was still a lesser ring than Sauron's rings, that's why they can detect the presence of sauron whenever sauron wears the ring. But sauron does not have dominion over the three rings
@@WanderingStar123you are mistaken. Only after Sauron lost the one ring did the elves begin to use theirs. All of the rings of power had Sauron's taint in them because the magic used to create them was of his design. No matter how pure Celibrimbor was in his mastery of ring smithing, it was still Sauron's craft
Which makes Saruman the wise trading wisdom for madness even less understandable, unless he was actually capable of taking the thing with his own orc armies. Probably not.
Who would care with the namby pamby Celebrimbor in the show? Beyond ridiculous what they have done to Tolkien's work. That these nobodies that never wrote anything anyone ever cared about thought they could do better than the father of fantasy literature himself.
Man I wish this was what we were getting in ROP! I can't imagine any of the ROP counterparts doing any of this. Celebrimbor isn't brave enough, Sauron isn't evil enough,, Galadriel and Gilgalad aren't trustworthy enough
Where in tf do they try to make him "misunderstood" in RoP? He's quite clearly bad and had been playing the long game up until he revealed himself to Galadriel. After that he's clearly evil. Besides, Sauron isn't evil in the same way Morgoth was. Morgoth hated all life and wanted to extinguish it, whereas Sauron wants to control it because he thinks everything would be better under his (albeit brutal) rule.
@@alexg1778Whoops, I think you might’ve lost ‘em at “besides”. Everything after that could be construed as a roundabout way of saying Sauron is “misunderstood”. As if to say, “He’s not as evil as that other guy who simply wishes to destroy everyone, but you see, our lad Sauron just wants to enslave them for the rest of their days instead”. Of course, Tolkien’s Sauron didn’t start out totally evil, but later became "an image of malice and hatred made visible". Nothing to misunderstand about that. See, we’re all just so used to modern villains (particularly female) being presented as “misunderstood”, despite being clearly evil through their actions, so that’s simply what everyone is expecting. However, if you read the ROP reviews and listen to the official interviews, while Sauron is being unveiled as an evil, handsome thirst trap, I believe the show is also trying to portray him as cunning and complex, yet altogether falling into evil, or as the producers say, like a Walter White/Heisenberg type. Why not copy from the best, I guess.
@@pinkfloydhomerGee, either you know every "modern human" on earth, or I missed a certain global survey. Either way--applause! It's pretty impressive... if not a teeny bit presumptuous. I'm glad Amazon was able to set things right in the world of Tolkien though, and I hope ROP is gonna transform minds and save lives like, I don't know... The Eternals. I suppose I'm here for it, until cancelled we depart.
Honestly, I wouldn't even call it fan fiction. That requires those involved in its writing to be fans of the original work which the writers behind the Rings of Recycled Fantasy very clearly are not. It's more like corpo-fic. Bezos wanted his Game of Thrones and he got it...went straight to season 8 quality with it.
The image of Celebrimbor's body being used as a banner is one of the most awe-inspiring things I've read by Tolkien (in a twisted way). It's the thing I'm most anticipating in The Rings of Power series. I really hope they don't scrap it
They have already changed the order of major events and created characters that never existed in the lore. There is no way Amazon will show the true story the way it’s meant to be… he’s more likely to become Sauron’s lover than a banner.
Yup. You’ll love ThePhilosophersGames channel and a GirlNextGondor, The Red Book and Tolkien Untangled for example or Ruins Of Gondolin for his animations
@@jadenw-d5562 That's what I was talking about. The fact that AI can make more canonically accurate elves than Amazon can with a TV show with a six figure budget.
@@pageachatter229 AI isn’t real. It’s computer generated. It can make more canonically accurate anything more than any amount of money on the planet ever could…
@@jadenw-d5562 Precisely my point. The fact that Artificial Intelligence is capable of making more canonically accurate elves than Amazon and their so called 'Tolkien experts' is really quite pathetic.
@@jadenw-d5562 Exactly. The fact that artificial intelligence is able to make more canonically accurate elves than Amazon can on a show with a six figure budget is quite pathetic.
Tolkien literally wrote this masterpiece. All Amazon had to do was cast good actors and make it look good on screen. But no. They decided they can re-write it better than Tolkien 🤦🏻♂️
Exactly. Here is what Amazon needed to cover without changes. - All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) - Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur. (Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth) After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
@@TheGuyThatWondersWhy Ppl forget or dont know it that amazon dont have the rights of all the books, so they have to change a lot. Prime Video series isn't technically based on The Silmarillion since Amazon doesn't have the rights to this piece of work. Instead, The Rings of Power draws from several Lord of the Rings texts to tell the story of this specific point in Middle-Earth’s history. Prime Video attempting to adapt The Silmarillion's stories without technically having the rights means carefully navigating a lot of red tape. The story of Morgoth stealing the Silmarils and Fëanor leading his people into exile to get them back is off-limits, which is why The Rings of Power season 1 changed how Galadriel and the Noldor came to be in Middle-earth. Parts of Sauron's story can't be adapted to TV (at least not by Amazon) as well, but there are special permissions involved with details like the name "Annatar" that allow Rings of Power a little wiggle room. Essentially, so long as it is mentioned in The Fellowship of the Rings, The Two Towers, The Return of the King, and The Hobbit, Prime Video is in the clear. Characters like Galadriel, Elrond, Gil-galad, Sauron, Celebrimbor, Tom Bombadil, and more are IP accessible to Rings of Power, though only the parts of their stories discussed in these books can be covered. From there, Prime Video has no choice but to take some creative liberties to fill in the gaps.
@@Bowaha Then they should have made stories using the material they did have access to, rather than perverting already existing Tolkien Middle Earth lore with their vastly inferior substitute .
@@thetabletopskirmisher I agree my friend. I’m like you, if they are going to make something out of a book or game they should keep the fidelity of the source. I’m watching this show because I like fantasy and elves but Galadriel in this show is annoying and dumb as fuck lol
Meanwhile none of these people are like how they are in the books. None of the events happen in the books. No captured Galadriel. No elven rings touched by Sauron (halbrand discount Aragorn) (literally a flaming eye in the forge). No poppy. No nori. No Adar. No Aerondir or bronwyn. Lol. None of it was from the books at all. Nor do they do Justice to the trilogy films they try desperately to make call backs to that make no sense.
Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire (before they went against what they promised), his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team. PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien (who Amazon used to get around all the laws and protections set around the estate and JRR Tolkien’s legacy), its stink doesn't reach Christopher. Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men. The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age. Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 2000 years before the rings of power era. A precursor to other events to come in later ages. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!! Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar(The One AllFather), The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong. Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! (Canon has her as a grandson or son so…) Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool. (Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this. Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well! Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video. I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. ) There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. & they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The 3 rings were forged after the 1 ring, not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings: They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them, nor his malice poured into them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it. The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is. Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds (I wish I was joking), and plagiarism of several films up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. So many 1 to 1 shots of season 1 and game of thrones and other films that it’s not even funny anymore lol. I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example. (Note; Isildur being on this show in the timeline these hazily depicted events would mean Isildur is over 3000 years old by the time of the last alliance that began the third age when it ended. Lol. That doesn’t make sense now does it?). So many people made videos over the last two or three years alone regarding the series got them to read the books and then they got very confused first. Then upset when they found out that nothing of the show was I. The books at all. Only twisted and warped things full of inserted politics and themes that Tolkien was no fan of. PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices…. Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way… “tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Númenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like. Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. 😍 fact they downplayed Elendil who’d never say to “forget the past”, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages… They lost alot of viewers after their bait and switch behaviour. Hundreds reported shenanigans on their app where it’d force you to watch and episode twice in variously described circumstances. Bribed people left and right with things like that screening. Even the official critics fell asleep. Many longtime film analysts along with actors and film students/professionals give basic criticism and in depth look at the editing and so forth which causes it to fall flat on its face. Abandons plot left and right. Full of member berries. Just because we got fake Tom Bombadil doesn’t mean we’ll flip onto our backs to play with the jingling keys. Balrog wasn’t awoken until thousands of years later. They’re horridly depicted scenarios which often aren’t canon: were separated by hundreds of years. Some of them by thousands. Not cool. Amazon is known to be corrupt.
All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) - Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur. (Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth) After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
The timeline is all wrong. The 3 were forged by Celebrimbor AFTER the 1 Ring was made. Made in response to the threat of the One gaining dominion over the lesser rings and their bearers. We haven't got there yet. Elronds concerns over Sauron controlling the Three makes NO SENSE in this timeline. That particular threat has not materialised yet. The One Ring doesn't exist yet. This is CRUCIAL, it's not a minor oversight. Sauron is not even aware of the Three until he creates the One. They've wrote themselves into a corner and are hoping people don't notice. Please! Don't they understand Tolkien fans at all haha? Probably not because they certainly don't understand Tolkien. Many events from this show don’t ever reveal that they’re indeed separated by 500 to 1000 years a pop. It wasn’t happening all within the same 5 lol. - Remember, Amazon's 2nd age is not Tolkien. It’s a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders & chief writers had stayed true to the original canon. but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision & canon that the great Professor laid down. Really what our speculations Should be is how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions & distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times! The timeline presented in Amazon's Rings of Power series does not align with the original Second Age canon created by J.R.R. Tolkien. The series makes several changes and combines events that are separated by hundreds to thousands of years in the original source material, leading to inconsistencies and contradictions. Many Tolkien fans and purists have criticized the show for its departure from the original vision and disrespect for the lore created by the professor. The series is seen as a disappointment and a sign of the times, with some fans even claiming that it is a violation of the sacred works of Tolkien. Sacred because so many peoples lives were saved and transformed by all of his scholarly work. ❤
Hey Ryan, love your style and what you are doing, you are a breath of fresh air in the review space and i can't wait to check out your other videos aswell, just subscribed. Keep up the good work!!!
@@jadenw-d5562why would he chop his own thumb off when he’s a thousands of years old master metallurgist with knowledge egg e and skills beyond US today not be able to burst out or chop it with a contraption? If he created it all from mater he actually could use power of song lore to make the chains dissolve. Remember: Finrod bursted out of his own chains to literally KO a werewolf with his bare hands and teeth. Many awesome artworks depicting that too!
Through their liberal feminist lens, as always. At least nobody is watching that crap. We can only hope it gets cancelled after this season and the desecration of Tolkien's work can finally come to an end.
Even though I can't wait for Thursdays to watch Rings of power, regardless of it's complete deviation from source material. The actor playing Celebrimbor should be used as a hobbit, and only a hobbit. I don't understand their choice!
@@TangoNevadaright can’t even hide his hate on yt 😔you need healing tomorrowwelive not a tv show. Read a book and stop threatening to hurt people who have done nothing to you.
@@bluedemon9995who is hurting anyone? Many white peoples worldwide are getting hurt/killed and if you report it you get banned and even fined and jailed. Many little white girls are now getting raped and kidnapped by radical islamists in Ireland and UK. Many who reported LIVE rapes literally got fined and jailed and said to not hurt the “migrants” feelings.
I always tried pronouncing it was “SELL” instead of “KELL” all the way to Uni lol. Until my professor who was the first woman in the US to receive a Dr degree based on the works of Tolkien very quickly corrected me and corrected me many times throughout the semester on many things regarding the wonderful world and writing of Tolkien 👍🏻
How do you pronounce Eregion correctly one way then demolish it in another? Man these pop up videos on subjects that are currently hot but they don’t understand are so annoying
And thats when in a strange turn of events the wraith of celebrimbor joined talion a gondorian ranger whos family were murdered by the servants of sauron and together they controled Mordor before celembrimbor joined with eltariel an elven assassin. Leaving Talion to wear Isildurs ting eventualy turning Talion into a Nazgul
Cerebrimbor was the most powerful elf in the 3rd age able to forge such artifacts and not their users in Galadriel, Elrond and Cirdan.... All 3 were able to pospone the effects of the corrupted by Morgoth Middle Earth in their respective realms only due to the power of those rings. And yes, Cerebrimbor learned how to do that from Annatar( Sauron) who in turn was a student of the great smith Aule in Valino.
Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire (before they went against what they promised), his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team. PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien (who Amazon used to get around all the laws and protections set around the estate and JRR Tolkien’s legacy), its stink doesn't reach Christopher. Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men. The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age. Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 2000 years before the rings of power era. A precursor to other events to come in later ages. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!! Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar(The One AllFather), The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong. Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! (Canon has her as a grandson or son so…) Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool. (Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this. Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well! Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video. I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. ) There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. & they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The 3 rings were forged after the 1 ring, not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings: They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them, nor his malice poured into them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it. The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is. Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds (I wish I was joking), and plagiarism of several films up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. So many 1 to 1 shots of season 1 and game of thrones and other films that it’s not even funny anymore lol. I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example. (Note; Isildur being on this show in the timeline these hazily depicted events would mean Isildur is over 3000 years old by the time of the last alliance that began the third age when it ended. Lol. That doesn’t make sense now does it?). So many people made videos over the last two or three years alone regarding the series got them to read the books and then they got very confused first. Then upset when they found out that nothing of the show was I. The books at all. Only twisted and warped things full of inserted politics and themes that Tolkien was no fan of. PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices…. Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way… “tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Númenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like. Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. 😍 fact they downplayed Elendil who’d never say to “forget the past”, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages… They lost alot of viewers after their bait and switch behaviour. Hundreds reported shenanigans on their app where it’d force you to watch and episode twice in variously described circumstances. Bribed people left and right with things like that screening. Even the official critics fell asleep. Many longtime film analysts along with actors and film students/professionals give basic criticism and in depth look at the editing and so forth which causes it to fall flat on its face. Abandons plot left and right. Full of member berries. Just because we got fake Tom Bombadil doesn’t mean we’ll flip onto our backs to play with the jingling keys. Balrog wasn’t awoken until thousands of years later. They’re horridly depicted scenarios which often aren’t canon: were separated by hundreds of years. Some of them by thousands. Not cool. Amazon is known to be corrupt.
No it's not. The Silmarillion is basically a history book, not a novel. It doesn't follow a single hero or protagonist through the story from beginning to end, and would be near impossible to adapt. It's very dry and not at all like what Tolkien wrote in the Rings books. I don't understand why people try to evoke it when critiquing ROP. A straight-up adaptation of The Silmarillion would not remotely work as entertainment. All this is beside the point though, as Amazon don't even have the rights to it, only LOTR and its appendices and The Hobbit.
@@jadenw-d5562 They have clearly used material that is in The Silmarillion, which would have been done with permission of the Tolkien Estate. There are things they've done which are not mentioned in LOTR, but are in The Silmarillion. They wouldn't need the overall rights to do this, just permission on a case-by-case basis with particulars. Regardless, as stated, The Silmarillion isn't a narrative or story with a central protagonist. It couldn't be adapted in the way LOTR or The Hobbit was.
@@frangipani-dreams Correction. They have used material that is in the Appendices. Which they have the rights too. Like names and places. Not entire stories. Which is why they can use Annatar… but not Mairon. They can talk about Beleriand… but not show it. They can mention Morgoth/Melkor… but not show him etc
@@jadenw-d5562 Annatar is NOT mentioned in the appendices. They will have had specific permission for this, as with other things. It will all have been sorted in their negotiations with the Tolkien Estate before they even started scripting season 1. They wouldn’t have started that story without knowing he would make an appearance in season 2.
He was skewered on a giant war pike. Tons of nice artwork showing it. Stuck with arrows. Barely alive. Bleeding out. Even then he still gleamed a beautiful light around himself as elves are of the faefolk and they’re sacred. Stuck through the back. Up through the chest. Other sketches showed r he had arrows stuck out his mouth through the back of his head.
and yet it is so far different to what we saw in RoP, they messed up the order of the forging of the rings. This short AI video is way much better than what Amazon did with their fan fic RoP
You say they have no personality, but... (Considers Glorfindel's drive to fight evil, even after death by Balrog. Considers how Elrond and Elros ended up leading very different lives, despite being twins. Realizes that Galadriel is a bad@$$ lady, because the fact that she even has a Ring of Power means she can't just use it carelessly, as would be the temptation regardless of whether it's corrupted or not. Doesn't see much of Arwen in the books, but is totally stuck on the fact that she went ahead and gave up her immortality for a guy centuries younger than her. Thinks of Lindir and decides he's pretty matter-of-fact, and good-natured about it too. Wonders how Celebrian spent all that time captured and tortured by Orcs, and still at least come out of it with sense enough to retire to Valinor [are orcs not corrupted Elves? Was that ever stated clearly in the books?]. Amused by how Elrohir and Elladan immediately volunteer for a borderline suicidal task and deems them mildly insane, even if they are as gallant and lordly as the narrative claims. Decides that book-Legolas liked poetry a little too much, and he definitely showed off his light-footedness more than once. Knows for a fact that Gil-galad got aid from Numenor's crown prince first and let the king know about it later, which is a little concerning since communication is key in alliances-) They have personalities, alright. They're just shown in a very idealistic way.
I like how we potentially saw the instrument of Calebrimbor’s destruction. I’m not sure about the books, but in Shadow of War, Sauron beats Calebrimbor to death with his grandfather’s hammer. The Elf who created the Silmarills
Guys, explain this please, ao they took off the 3 rings because they discovered they were linked to Saurons 1 true ring, right? But in the movies they are wearing them anyways? Was that wrong? Or do they use them sometimes or...? Plus Galadriel in the movies seems to have a lot of weird super power that can even send Sauron to the other side of the ugly mountains haha, is that because she was using this ring or...?
Too much ai and whoever is being used for Celebrimbor is wrong. Like his dad, Curufin, and his grandfather, Feanor, Celebrimbor has raven black hair and gray eyes. It's in the books.
Man the original lore was so good and so brutal... if only someone made a great show out of this source material
That WOULD be great but the Tolkien family won't allow it. Still, getting nothing would be better than the bastardized version we're getting now.
In case you didn't know there is a great show with two seasons out so far
@@Workplaylister I did not know. Where can I find it?
@@WorkplaylisterI don’t think you understand what the word great means. Dumpster fire is a more appropriate description of this butchery of the lore
if only they did right ! we get rings of power insted.............. yay
Why Celebrimbor is presented as a bumbling fool in the show while he’s supposed to be one of the greatest elves to ever live is beyond me?
Because the show is obvious garbage made by fools and is not cannon
Why you watched it in the first place is beyond me.
@@organfuneralcovers we were fooled
@@likac92009 we were deceived
Not to mention he was op on the games
it is a war crime how celembrimbor is protrayed in ROP..... He looks like a middle aged accountant...
And has half of the IQ of one
They don't have the money to buy rights to the Silmarillion, so they can't make it like in the book...
that's feminism for ya, creeping into the set
I refuse to watch it. Nothing about it is canon.
Yeah didn't he play the warden in silence of the lambs or something, such a shitty fucking actor, when he dubbed sauron the Lord of the rings in the last episode that was it for me 🤦🏻
Ai used henry cavill face in almost every pictures 😅
Celebrimbor: You are Henry Caville.
Mairon: So are you.
Ewe cliché clone huemans programmed backwards should be somewhat aware more 👁️
Of course 🤷🏼♂️
He would've been an amazing choice, much better fit for a Feanorian. People fan-cast him as Feanor himself, and I love that haha
There was only 1 elf that remotely looked liked Henry. The rest was just your vivid mushroom enhanced imagination...🤔
His death is one of the most brutal to me and darkest
It's pretty rough but some of the stuff Morgoth did might be worse. Check out the fate of Hurin Thalion
It's his fault for going against Sauron
You've never heard of Hurìn??
The Orcs using his body as psychological warfare waving his corpse as the banner of Sauron’s forces One of the first horrific images imagined by my mind as a youngster while reading the words of another person. Terrified disgusted and angered me all at once as a surge of emotions. Probably the first time i realized the power of great writing
I think Maedhros being hanged from a mountain by his arm did that to me. And it happened for a second time when I started to read the lore on the internet and realized he's been there for 30 years :o
Well-written yourself, friend. 🙏👏
I dont think they have the balls to show this in the rings of power
Rings of Power doesn't have anything to do with the Silmarillion anyways thats clear since season 1 of the show :D
@@6666Imperator cool
They can't now. They are doing the rings in the wrong order. Elves, then dwarves, then men.
And Guyladriel isn't in Lorien.
RoP is not canon, so I have zero hopes for it.
They subverted the lore but are not even going full in with it either.
Even the elves made by Ai are more beautiful than those made by the RoP series
RoP series is not even a fan fic
@@michaelfranzgarcia7769I am enjoyong it
@@michaelfranzgarcia7769 I feel nauseous when I see the orc family scene
Well no shit. It's AI. Of course it's gonna make you look more beautiful
@@herher889 you clearly didn’t read the books. Tolkien talks about orcs reproducing and having families. Even if you only read the hobbit you would know that Bolg was the son of Azog
I didn’t realise Tolkien was that metal…
They used his body as a banner?? Ouch.
Why do you think so many metal bands name their bands after Tolkien’s works. The dude was metal af
Of course he is, the man fought in the Somme afterall.
Maan, the First Age ALONE is one of the most Metal AF things in existence 😉
This clip is wrong. Not the body, just the skin.
@@jarlnils435That's more brutal
Such a mighty elf, portrayed as my old uncle ....
I thought celebrimbor looked like a 65 year old pensioner in a moomoo
LOLOL
thats Amazon version of Grima bimbor lol
@@rio20d Grandma-brimbor
Tourture dosnt stop existing if you censor the word. Please grow a spine before we all suffer from collective stipidity.
I think you were suffering long before you ever made this comment buddy.
Dude, you can grow multiple spines all day but it wouldn't stop youtube from removing videos with such words silly..
You cant use certain words in your videos or you get demonitized.
are you telling the person writing AI scripts to grow a spine?
The irony of your post is magical
Hence in Shadow of Mordor he looks the way he does. It was a nice touch, even if it’s just canon showed why he hated Sauron and it was personal.
Yeah his face was fuckkked!!!
I always thought it was similar to how Vlad the impaler put his enemies on spikes. Poor Celebrinbor
I SWEAR THESE ELVES LOOK A MILLION TIMES BETTER THAN AMAZONS R.O.P ELVES
GREATWORK! 👌👏👏👏
Hey, a $billion can't get you decent people if you only DEI hire.
That's Amazon R.I.P 😂
Thanks man!
as long as you don't watch it, it's okay! but, don't you curse here, but you also go to peek at the show! 🗿Shame on you 🙊Absolute stupidity is nesting in people like you!
😂🔥😂
in ROP they look like like ordinally people with pointy ears,smh...
Using a dead elven prince as a war banner is heavy metal as fck 🤘🔥🔥🔥
“The three great rings were untouched by Sauron, thus uncorrupted, still subjected to the power of the one ring”. It doesn’t make any sense.
It was still a lesser ring than Sauron's rings, that's why they can detect the presence of sauron whenever sauron wears the ring. But sauron does not have dominion over the three rings
@@WanderingStar123you are mistaken. Only after Sauron lost the one ring did the elves begin to use theirs. All of the rings of power had Sauron's taint in them because the magic used to create them was of his design.
No matter how pure Celibrimbor was in his mastery of ring smithing, it was still Sauron's craft
Ewe huemans should be somewhat aware more 👁️
Which makes Saruman the wise trading wisdom for madness even less understandable, unless he was actually capable of taking the thing with his own orc armies. Probably not.
@@bustinarantEgo is a hell of a drug. Saruman simply couldn't accept that another Maiar could be so much smarter and more powerful than him.
Now see this is why you do it by the book, its so much cooler then we are getting in Rings of Power
Exactly. Skewered on a big war pike forged of pure malicious evil , several artworks and sketches of it out there.
Too bad we'll never see these awesome stories in that rings of power LOTR wanna be
We’re literally about too. Sauron already forced him to cut off his thumbs 💀 And wdym LOTR wannabe? This is set thousands of years before LOTR.
Who would care with the namby pamby Celebrimbor in the show? Beyond ridiculous what they have done to Tolkien's work. That these nobodies that never wrote anything anyone ever cared about thought they could do better than the father of fantasy literature himself.
@@nealm6764 Peter Jackson did the same with the films 🥱
@@jadenw-d5562 the title of the show use Lord of the rings - Rings of Power, it makes sense to call it LoTR wanna be, because it fails to be that.
Someday an ai on your laptop will make you a show at a wim satisfying your requirements
Man I wish this was what we were getting in ROP! I can't imagine any of the ROP counterparts doing any of this. Celebrimbor isn't brave enough, Sauron isn't evil enough,, Galadriel and Gilgalad aren't trustworthy enough
And this is the guy they want to make a “misunderstood villain” in rings of power
Where in tf do they try to make him "misunderstood" in RoP?
He's quite clearly bad and had been playing the long game up until he revealed himself to Galadriel. After that he's clearly evil.
Besides, Sauron isn't evil in the same way Morgoth was. Morgoth hated all life and wanted to extinguish it, whereas Sauron wants to control it because he thinks everything would be better under his (albeit brutal) rule.
@@alexg1778Whoops, I think you might’ve lost ‘em at “besides”. Everything after that could be construed as a roundabout way of saying Sauron is “misunderstood”. As if to say, “He’s not as evil as that other guy who simply wishes to destroy everyone, but you see, our lad Sauron just wants to enslave them for the rest of their days instead”. Of course, Tolkien’s Sauron didn’t start out totally evil, but later became "an image of malice and hatred made visible". Nothing to misunderstand about that. See, we’re all just so used to modern villains (particularly female) being presented as “misunderstood”, despite being clearly evil through their actions, so that’s simply what everyone is expecting. However, if you read the ROP reviews and listen to the official interviews, while Sauron is being unveiled as an evil, handsome thirst trap, I believe the show is also trying to portray him as cunning and complex, yet altogether falling into evil, or as the producers say, like a Walter White/Heisenberg type. Why not copy from the best, I guess.
@@NRES-tedthat's because every modern human knows that there is no such thing as a purely evil entity or human. I'm not sure Tolkien knew this.
@@pinkfloydhomerGee, either you know every "modern human" on earth, or I missed a certain global survey. Either way--applause! It's pretty impressive... if not a teeny bit presumptuous. I'm glad Amazon was able to set things right in the world of Tolkien though, and I hope ROP is gonna transform minds and save lives like, I don't know... The Eternals. I suppose I'm here for it, until cancelled we depart.
@@NRES-ted wow, you're so deep
The way that these AI generated rings look so much more authentic than whatever costume jewelry they're using in RoP is wild
Yeah millions of budget used to something else than the rings of power what is the name of the series..
This probably AI-generated clip is so much more interesting, tragic and captivating than ROP season1+2 together
Ah yes. Good old Sauron. What a gentleman. Just the type of guy you can count on to have your back.
When a 56-second AI-generated short is more engaging, beautiful, and lore-accurate than a billion-dollar TV show...
Thank you!
This is one Celebrimbor that I didn't mind seeing dying. He was so awful that it was torture watching this character on the screen.
Good luck telling the ROP writers that, that fanfic has the elven rings being made first directly by Sauron because Celebrimbor is a clown.
Honestly, I wouldn't even call it fan fiction. That requires those involved in its writing to be fans of the original work which the writers behind the Rings of Recycled Fantasy very clearly are not. It's more like corpo-fic. Bezos wanted his Game of Thrones and he got it...went straight to season 8 quality with it.
Went out like a hero!
Then afterwards he possesses a ranger and gets played by a spider
Great piece of art ! Excellent drawing skills.
I wish I could draw like that, it’s all AI
If I could filter out these AI scripted videos… I’d be one happy elf.
This is the internet now... We are the test subject by the lesser rings of AI
Until their boss reveal themselves
@@asabovesoasitswithme turns out to be some long lost tamagochi just trying to find its original master
Or AI scripted series, like Rings of Power.
You know the more you'll watch and comment on them the more they will show up, right?
@@JoFa876awesome-3000 still putting out scripts
Celebrimbor got the ole Robb Stark treatment with his dead body being marched around
The old Hector treatment.
DA KING IN DA NORTH
Hector behind the chariot smh.
The image of Celebrimbor's body being used as a banner is one of the most awe-inspiring things I've read by Tolkien (in a twisted way). It's the thing I'm most anticipating in The Rings of Power series. I really hope they don't scrap it
Trust me, they will.
I think the show will be cancelled by then.
@@jimmynich4791 Hopefully, that show is a disgrace to LOTR
They have already changed the order of major events and created characters that never existed in the lore. There is no way Amazon will show the true story the way it’s meant to be… he’s more likely to become Sauron’s lover than a banner.
Why are you even watching that god awful nonsense.
the art is exactly what I imagined -- Great Job.
Thank you!
Me over here learning one name at a time and seeing they each have hours and hours and hours of lore. It fills me with such wonder❤
Yup. You’ll love ThePhilosophersGames channel and a GirlNextGondor, The Red Book and Tolkien Untangled for example or Ruins Of Gondolin for his animations
I don’t understand why Amazon ignores all that fantastic lore and presents such a sick series
When AI can make more canonically accurate elves than a billion dollar tv show.
Ring of Power has done that too.
@@jadenw-d5562
That's what I was talking about. The fact that AI can make more canonically accurate elves than Amazon can with a TV show with a six figure budget.
@@pageachatter229 AI isn’t real. It’s computer generated. It can make more canonically accurate anything more than any amount of money on the planet ever could…
@@jadenw-d5562
Precisely my point. The fact that Artificial Intelligence is capable of making more canonically accurate elves than Amazon and their so called 'Tolkien experts' is really quite pathetic.
@@jadenw-d5562
Exactly. The fact that artificial intelligence is able to make more canonically accurate elves than Amazon can on a show with a six figure budget is quite pathetic.
I love Sauron! He was majestic and powerful!
Sauron using Celebrimbor's as a banner shows how pissed he is. I thought the book said it was his skin that was turned into a banner.
no they impaled him and shot his corpse with arrows,then they used it as a banner
Tolkien literally wrote this masterpiece. All Amazon had to do was cast good actors and make it look good on screen. But no. They decided they can re-write it better than Tolkien 🤦🏻♂️
Exactly. Here is what Amazon needed to cover without changes. - All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though)
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Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur.
(Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth)
After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained".
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
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The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
Tolkien family didn’t allow it.
@@TheGuyThatWondersWhy Ppl forget or dont know it that amazon dont have the rights of all the books, so they have to change a lot.
Prime Video series isn't technically based on The Silmarillion since Amazon doesn't have the rights to this piece of work. Instead, The Rings of Power draws from several Lord of the Rings texts to tell the story of this specific point in Middle-Earth’s history.
Prime Video attempting to adapt The Silmarillion's stories without technically having the rights means carefully navigating a lot of red tape. The story of Morgoth stealing the Silmarils and Fëanor leading his people into exile to get them back is off-limits, which is why The Rings of Power season 1 changed how Galadriel and the Noldor came to be in Middle-earth. Parts of Sauron's story can't be adapted to TV (at least not by Amazon) as well, but there are special permissions involved with details like the name "Annatar" that allow Rings of Power a little wiggle room. Essentially, so long as it is mentioned in The Fellowship of the Rings, The Two Towers, The Return of the King, and The Hobbit, Prime Video is in the clear. Characters like Galadriel, Elrond, Gil-galad, Sauron, Celebrimbor, Tom Bombadil, and more are IP accessible to Rings of Power, though only the parts of their stories discussed in these books can be covered. From there, Prime Video has no choice but to take some creative liberties to fill in the gaps.
@@Bowaha Then they should have made stories using the material they did have access to, rather than perverting already existing Tolkien Middle Earth lore with their vastly inferior substitute .
@@thetabletopskirmisher I agree my friend. I’m like you, if they are going to make something out of a book or game they should keep the fidelity of the source. I’m watching this show because I like fantasy and elves but Galadriel in this show is annoying and dumb as fuck lol
Poor Celebrimbor.😢 He is one of my favorite character in Rings of power.
Meanwhile none of these people are like how they are in the books. None of the events happen in the books. No captured Galadriel. No elven rings touched by Sauron (halbrand discount Aragorn) (literally a flaming eye in the forge). No poppy. No nori. No Adar. No Aerondir or bronwyn. Lol. None of it was from the books at all. Nor do they do Justice to the trilogy films they try desperately to make call backs to that make no sense.
Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire (before they went against what they promised), his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team.
PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien (who Amazon used to get around all the laws and protections set around the estate and JRR Tolkien’s legacy), its stink doesn't reach Christopher.
Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men.
The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age.
Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 2000 years before the rings of power era. A precursor to other events to come in later ages.
Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!!
Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar(The One AllFather), The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong.
Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! (Canon has her as a grandson or son so…)
Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool.
(Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this.
Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well!
Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video.
I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. )
There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels.
& they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The 3 rings were forged after the 1 ring, not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings:
They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron.
His touch never got to them, nor his malice poured into them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it.
The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is.
Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff.
Full of copy past crowds (I wish I was joking), and plagiarism of several films up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. So many 1 to 1 shots of season 1 and game of thrones and other films that it’s not even funny anymore lol.
I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example.
(Note; Isildur being on this show in the timeline these hazily depicted events would mean Isildur is over 3000 years old by the time of the last alliance that began the third age when it ended. Lol. That doesn’t make sense now does it?).
So many people made videos over the last two or three years alone regarding the series got them to read the books and then they got very confused first. Then upset when they found out that nothing of the show was I. The books at all. Only twisted and warped things full of inserted politics and themes that Tolkien was no fan of.
PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices….
Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way…
“tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Númenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like.
Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. 😍
fact they downplayed Elendil who’d never say to “forget the past”, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
They lost alot of viewers after their bait and switch behaviour. Hundreds reported shenanigans on their app where it’d force you to watch and episode twice in variously described circumstances. Bribed people left and right with things like that screening. Even the official critics fell asleep.
Many longtime film analysts along with actors and film students/professionals give basic criticism and in depth look at the editing and so forth which causes it to fall flat on its face. Abandons plot left and right. Full of member berries. Just because we got fake Tom Bombadil doesn’t mean we’ll flip onto our backs to play with the jingling keys. Balrog wasn’t awoken until thousands of years later. They’re horridly depicted scenarios which often aren’t canon: were separated by hundreds of years. Some of them by thousands. Not cool. Amazon is known to be corrupt.
All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though)
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Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur.
(Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth)
After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained".
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
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The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
The timeline is all wrong. The 3 were forged by Celebrimbor AFTER the 1 Ring was made. Made in response to the threat of the One gaining dominion over the lesser rings and their bearers. We haven't got there yet. Elronds concerns over Sauron controlling the Three makes NO SENSE in this timeline. That particular threat has not materialised yet. The One Ring doesn't exist yet. This is CRUCIAL, it's not a minor oversight. Sauron is not even aware of the Three until he creates the One. They've wrote themselves into a corner and are hoping people don't notice. Please!
Don't they understand Tolkien fans at all haha? Probably not because they certainly don't understand Tolkien.
Many events from this show don’t ever reveal that they’re indeed separated by 500 to 1000 years a pop. It wasn’t happening all within the same 5 lol.
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Remember, Amazon's 2nd age is not Tolkien. It’s a perverted vision of what should have been, if the show leaders & chief writers had stayed true to the original canon. but we both know, fellow Tolkien Lover, that this is an absolute violation of the vision & canon that the great Professor laid down.
Really what our speculations
Should be is how far from or how deep are they going to take their perversions & distortions. Amazons Rings of Power are a catastrophic failure. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo BS that is meant for the uninitiated! It is eye candy at best........ at best! It is a tragedy what Bezos has done with this sacred work! Tolkien rolls over endlessly in his grave, and I weep endlessly as well. A sign of the times my friend, a sign of the times!
The timeline presented in Amazon's Rings of Power series does not align with the original Second Age canon created by J.R.R. Tolkien. The series makes several changes and combines events that are separated by hundreds to thousands of years in the original source material, leading to inconsistencies and contradictions. Many Tolkien fans and purists have criticized the show for its departure from the original vision and disrespect for the lore created by the professor. The series is seen as a disappointment and a sign of the times, with some fans even claiming that it is a violation of the sacred works of Tolkien.
Sacred because so many peoples lives were saved and transformed by all of his scholarly work. ❤
This a.i clip is 1000 times better than ring of power the elves the feel the intensity is so much more better and of course the story
Thank you!
Hey Ryan, love your style and what you are doing, you are a breath of fresh air in the review space and i can't wait to check out your other videos aswell, just subscribed. Keep up the good work!!!
No, that's wrong. The Rings of Power showed us differently 😅
Um… have you been watching it?😂 Sauron is literally about to murder him and use him as a banner. Already chopped dudes thumbs off 💀
@@jadenw-d5562why would he chop his own thumb off when he’s a thousands of years old master metallurgist with knowledge egg e and skills beyond US today not be able to burst out or chop it with a contraption? If he created it all from mater he actually could use power of song lore to make the chains dissolve. Remember: Finrod bursted out of his own chains to literally KO a werewolf with his bare hands and teeth. Many awesome artworks depicting that too!
This video is better than the whole Rings of Power series
This is where ROP is right now but this could have been the vision if PJ did it
It would be fun if the show actually showed this.
No thanks. We don’t want a massive CGI battle with random characters who never even spoke in the books becoming main characters etc etc.
Imagine how good Rings of power could have been. This is painful and beautiful
RoP has done Grannybrimbor dirty.
I think Amazon forgot to read any source material
Man people using Ai are lackluster in creativity
Bruhh.....to see my boy's body being used as a banner would've been the BIGGEST mistake they could've made that day.
Can’t wait to see how ROP interprets this scene.
Through their liberal feminist lens, as always. At least nobody is watching that crap. We can only hope it gets cancelled after this season and the desecration of Tolkien's work can finally come to an end.
Waaaay too much credit
Sauron is going to seduce him. It's going to be so lame lol
Ewe huemans 👁️
They won't use Celebrimbor as a banner they don't have the guts to show that kind of brutality. ROP is a farce at this point.
The way he sped through "aaaaand then was eventually killed and his body used as a banner by Sauron's forces" really took me out
Even though I can't wait for Thursdays to watch Rings of power, regardless of it's complete deviation from source material. The actor playing Celebrimbor should be used as a hobbit, and only a hobbit. I don't understand their choice!
She (Aunt Celebrimbara), is a caracter from The Golden Girls TV series.
Ewe cliché clone huemans programmed backwards 👁️
I wish they were this fine on the show
I'd like to do this to the writers and producers of Rings of Black Power
We know why.
@@TangoNevadaright can’t even hide his hate on yt 😔you need healing tomorrowwelive not a tv show. Read a book and stop threatening to hurt people who have done nothing to you.
@@bluedemon9995who is hurting anyone? Many white peoples worldwide are getting hurt/killed and if you report it you get banned and even fined and jailed. Many little white girls are now getting raped and kidnapped by radical islamists in Ireland and UK. Many who reported LIVE rapes literally got fined and jailed and said to not hurt the “migrants” feelings.
I always tried pronouncing it was “SELL” instead of “KELL” all the way to Uni lol. Until my professor who was the first woman in the US to receive a Dr degree based on the works of Tolkien very quickly corrected me and corrected me many times throughout the semester on many things regarding the wonderful world and writing of Tolkien 👍🏻
How do you pronounce Eregion correctly one way then demolish it in another? Man these pop up videos on subjects that are currently hot but they don’t understand are so annoying
This is my Roman Empire. 😢 Celebrimbor is incredible. ROP version is an atrocity.
KelerrrBRIMborrrrrr
MiaOw
in my family, he is Callum bim bowl 👍🏻
Ewe huemans 👁️
Where was this video when Rings of Power was shooting season 2?!?!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thank you!
If you think Rings of Power is accurate you are sadly mistaken.
Using his body as a banner would have been an interesting talking point in Shadow of Mordor. Would've been a dramatic plot point.
Even Ai knows what a elf looks like
but not hands lol
I think it comes down to the simple fact that Bombadil would never fight Morgoth simply because he’s not about all that DraMAAAA 💁🏽♂️✨✨
Oh no sauron was certainly filth 😳 Celebrimbor was more perfectly he was must to be lord of the rings not sauron isn't worth 😬
R u a robot ? 🤖
Go back to school, You dont make sence
@iLLicitNz78 🥹no it's not your work
@@iLLicitNz78ewe huemans 👁️
And thats when in a strange turn of events the wraith of celebrimbor joined talion a gondorian ranger whos family were murdered by the servants of sauron and together they controled Mordor before celembrimbor joined with eltariel an elven assassin. Leaving Talion to wear Isildurs ting eventualy turning Talion into a Nazgul
You asked for Peace.
*I gave it to you.*
🔥👁️🔥
You may choose, between the peace of plenty under my watchful eye... or the peace of the grave.
Ewe cliché clone huemans programmed backwards should be somewhat aware more 👁️
Cerebrimbor was the most powerful elf in the 3rd age able to forge such artifacts and not their users in Galadriel, Elrond and Cirdan....
All 3 were able to pospone the effects of the corrupted by Morgoth Middle Earth in their respective realms only due to the power of those rings. And yes, Cerebrimbor learned how to do that from Annatar( Sauron) who in turn was a student of the great smith Aule in Valino.
And yet amazon managed to screw everything up in this little synopsis
Rings of power a wasted creation. Black and asian elves threw me off , and I'm asian. Stick to the books
Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire (before they went against what they promised), his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team.
PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien (who Amazon used to get around all the laws and protections set around the estate and JRR Tolkien’s legacy), its stink doesn't reach Christopher.
Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men.
The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age.
Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 2000 years before the rings of power era. A precursor to other events to come in later ages.
Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!!
Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar(The One AllFather), The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong.
Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! (Canon has her as a grandson or son so…)
Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool.
(Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this.
Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well!
Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video.
I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. )
There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels.
& they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The 3 rings were forged after the 1 ring, not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings:
They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron.
His touch never got to them, nor his malice poured into them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it.
The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is.
Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff.
Full of copy past crowds (I wish I was joking), and plagiarism of several films up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. So many 1 to 1 shots of season 1 and game of thrones and other films that it’s not even funny anymore lol.
I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example.
(Note; Isildur being on this show in the timeline these hazily depicted events would mean Isildur is over 3000 years old by the time of the last alliance that began the third age when it ended. Lol. That doesn’t make sense now does it?).
So many people made videos over the last two or three years alone regarding the series got them to read the books and then they got very confused first. Then upset when they found out that nothing of the show was I. The books at all. Only twisted and warped things full of inserted politics and themes that Tolkien was no fan of.
PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices….
Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way…
“tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Númenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like.
Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. 😍
fact they downplayed Elendil who’d never say to “forget the past”, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
They lost alot of viewers after their bait and switch behaviour. Hundreds reported shenanigans on their app where it’d force you to watch and episode twice in variously described circumstances. Bribed people left and right with things like that screening. Even the official critics fell asleep.
Many longtime film analysts along with actors and film students/professionals give basic criticism and in depth look at the editing and so forth which causes it to fall flat on its face. Abandons plot left and right. Full of member berries. Just because we got fake Tom Bombadil doesn’t mean we’ll flip onto our backs to play with the jingling keys. Balrog wasn’t awoken until thousands of years later. They’re horridly depicted scenarios which often aren’t canon: were separated by hundreds of years. Some of them by thousands. Not cool. Amazon is known to be corrupt.
SaurrRRRron atacked ErrRRRRregion
Yeah, I prefer Eee-Ree-Jen.
I have a huge eregion
Midjourney always puts the actor of the "Witcher" in faces. It is really disturbing, but it is a good video.
Thank you.
cant wait to see the show muff this part of the book. Its gonna be terrible no doubt...
It’s crazy someone wrote such a new j depth story that all made up with so many names and characters. 🍻🇺🇸
I wanna see Cleebrimbor's dead body in Rings of Power
could use Galadriels as a banner too.
Demeaned by Far-South Orcs.
Ewe cliché clone huemans programmed backwards 👁️
You mean Grannybrimbor.
And then they made rings ofpower showing celebrimbor a dumb joker and sauron as a lover boi😂
This is how the Silmarillion is supposed to look.
Not like that detritus that Amazon is spurting out.. 🤣 🤦♂️
No it's not. The Silmarillion is basically a history book, not a novel. It doesn't follow a single hero or protagonist through the story from beginning to end, and would be near impossible to adapt. It's very dry and not at all like what Tolkien wrote in the Rings books. I don't understand why people try to evoke it when critiquing ROP. A straight-up adaptation of The Silmarillion would not remotely work as entertainment. All this is beside the point though, as Amazon don't even have the rights to it, only LOTR and its appendices and The Hobbit.
No one has the rights to the Silmarillion and their stories will never be told.
@@jadenw-d5562 They have clearly used material that is in The Silmarillion, which would have been done with permission of the Tolkien Estate. There are things they've done which are not mentioned in LOTR, but are in The Silmarillion. They wouldn't need the overall rights to do this, just permission on a case-by-case basis with particulars. Regardless, as stated, The Silmarillion isn't a narrative or story with a central protagonist. It couldn't be adapted in the way LOTR or The Hobbit was.
@@frangipani-dreams Correction. They have used material that is in the Appendices. Which they have the rights too. Like names and places. Not entire stories. Which is why they can use Annatar… but not Mairon. They can talk about Beleriand… but not show it. They can mention Morgoth/Melkor… but not show him etc
@@jadenw-d5562 Annatar is NOT mentioned in the appendices. They will have had specific permission for this, as with other things. It will all have been sorted in their negotiations with the Tolkien Estate before they even started scripting season 1. They wouldn’t have started that story without knowing he would make an appearance in season 2.
Funny how Amazon can’t even get this right.
A time approaches
When light life love & Liberty
Shall bind Greed & Hate with its own chains
For Eternity
and they say LOTR/Silmarilian isn't dark...
As far as Rings of Power goes, it’s a shame Sauron couldn’t use Galadriel and those stupid hobbit ripoffs as standards too.
Did the book ever say he was placed in a stake? (like a$$ to mouth) or just like a wooden crucifix with chains tied to him?
He was skewered on a giant war pike. Tons of nice artwork showing it. Stuck with arrows. Barely alive. Bleeding out. Even then he still gleamed a beautiful light around himself as elves are of the faefolk and they’re sacred. Stuck through the back. Up through the chest. Other sketches showed r he had arrows stuck out his mouth through the back of his head.
Americans pronouncing it Soron instead of “Sour-Ron” irritated me more that “Super Morio” or “Laura Croft
and yet it is so far different to what we saw in RoP, they messed up the order of the forging of the rings. This short AI video is way much better than what Amazon did with their fan fic RoP
All those elves resemble same character, they have no personality...
You say they have no personality, but...
(Considers Glorfindel's drive to fight evil, even after death by Balrog. Considers how Elrond and Elros ended up leading very different lives, despite being twins. Realizes that Galadriel is a bad@$$ lady, because the fact that she even has a Ring of Power means she can't just use it carelessly, as would be the temptation regardless of whether it's corrupted or not. Doesn't see much of Arwen in the books, but is totally stuck on the fact that she went ahead and gave up her immortality for a guy centuries younger than her. Thinks of Lindir and decides he's pretty matter-of-fact, and good-natured about it too. Wonders how Celebrian spent all that time captured and tortured by Orcs, and still at least come out of it with sense enough to retire to Valinor [are orcs not corrupted Elves? Was that ever stated clearly in the books?]. Amused by how Elrohir and Elladan immediately volunteer for a borderline suicidal task and deems them mildly insane, even if they are as gallant and lordly as the narrative claims. Decides that book-Legolas liked poetry a little too much, and he definitely showed off his light-footedness more than once. Knows for a fact that Gil-galad got aid from Numenor's crown prince first and let the king know about it later, which is a little concerning since communication is key in alliances-)
They have personalities, alright. They're just shown in a very idealistic way.
I like how we potentially saw the instrument of Calebrimbor’s destruction. I’m not sure about the books, but in Shadow of War, Sauron beats Calebrimbor to death with his grandfather’s hammer. The Elf who created the Silmarills
In the books, it doesn't say how Sauron actually killed him.
This art is amazing
Thank you!
It’s ai not theirs
@@noooooobica I know. It’s still unbelievable
Shoulda sent this to Amazon….
Ai can never pronounce lotr words correctly. "Eri-gen?"
Ewe huemans should be aware more 👁️
I may have forgotten but, how did Saurons ring still affect the 3 made by Celebrimbor if they were not touched by him?
Thanks Amazon you did a great job
Elves: Celebrimbor, did you empower Sauron? 😠
Celebrimbor: 🙊
Elves: Oh Celebrimbor 🤗
*laugh track* , *Amazon Prime Video credits role*
The atrocious creative disaster and crime against imagination that the rings of power is, is unfathomable.
We need a body banner in Rings of Power
I second that
A banner! 😮 that is bloody awesome!!!!😅
I think you mean brutal. 😂😂😂
Guys, explain this please, ao they took off the 3 rings because they discovered they were linked to Saurons 1 true ring, right? But in the movies they are wearing them anyways? Was that wrong? Or do they use them sometimes or...? Plus Galadriel in the movies seems to have a lot of weird super power that can even send Sauron to the other side of the ugly mountains haha, is that because she was using this ring or...?
Strange how a 1 minute video easily outmatch a 16 hours, 2 seasons tv series...
Too much ai and whoever is being used for Celebrimbor is wrong. Like his dad, Curufin, and his grandfather, Feanor, Celebrimbor has raven black hair and gray eyes. It's in the books.