That would mean *not* to learn from others, which is not possible nor would it be smart. A better advice would be to surround yourself with winner types whos influence is beneficial and to avoid losers.
@@Garium87 The key word is influence not learn. He already addresses the importance of knowledge at the beginning, by the end your choices should yours using your own mind (collection of your acquired knowledge and more). A Kings role is to lead. Alfred has already has surrounded himself with successful people. Being the King and all the texts. Obviously birds of a feather flock together but if you're merely copying successful peers you have around you and not adding your unique flavour. You aren't important, you're merely being an imitation.
Nice try Alex, but you don't get to be king of the armchair know-it-alls for this comments section. Try again with another video. And, Christopher, exactly! You can wear the crown.
@@chrisi.d.m575 "The key word is influence not learn." Right but you act as if the keyword would be "mind control." Every teacher and lesson, as well as every person you surround yourself with, does "influence" you. That is not necessarily negative. And again, you can't avoid that. Just realistically, how could you do that? You can only choose who will influence you by choosing who you suround yourself with. "Obviously birds of a feather flock together" That implies that people who think similar are sticking together, which is true but I was pointing out that the opposite happens as well. If you surround yourself with people, you will become more like them, even if you have been very different before. "if you're merely copying successful peers you have around you and not adding your unique flavour. You aren't important, you're merely being an imitation." I think that's the weakest part of your argument because it is literally impossible to become "someone's copy" without "your own flavour." No matter how much you learn from other people, you will always be different and at the end, it will always be you who decided what he learns from whom.
@@Garium87 you have to take context of what's going on here... he says influence after he made the kid drink till he puked. He wants him to learn yes but not be influenced to make poor decisions. Basically saying dont follow what someone says blindly because they are smart. Learn from them yes but don't necessarily follow them. It's great logic because smart men use logic to manipulate people. He is trying to teach that to him.
For me this is the best line in the series "Don`t ever let yourself be influenced by other people" "Always think your own taughts and act on them" Just a great quote!
Ragnar too warned Bjorn about power. “Power is always dangerous. It attracts the worst and corrupts the best. I never asked for power. Power is only given to those who are prepared to lower themselves to pick it up.”
The necessity of this lesson is shown in the movie “the king”. People will use and abuse you if you don’t have the ability to say no when your heart and head agree that something is a mistake.
@@siddharth5025 he wasn’t usurped, he was offered the throne and he rejected it He turned on Alfred the as soon as they had a disagreement I’d imagine their relationship in ‘The Last a Kingdom’ is more accurate than their relationship in Vikings
@@michaelmccomb2594 What you mean offered? His bitch of a mother forced him to reject it and then killed him later on. The Last Kingdom is the true depiction of Wessex, Alfred was never some bastard of Aethelwulf's wife, fathered by a monk named Athelstan, Athelstan is a noble name, not to mention the name of the very first King of England and probably the greatest King of England of all time. And a monk should have never been named that.
As a Greek, i would like to see Ecgbehrt give a book to Alfred and tell him that " what i gave you is the epic "Iliad" written by an ancient Greek poet" and, then, explain the plot of the epic.
Well sadly its not so likely that he had the Illiad back in the days and on the place where it lays, so Gregor the Great is historicaly far better. But I agree with you: a Saga (yes Epos would be better) in a Saga would be lovely
A good lesson, but how did he know he would vomit at the third glass? If Alfred had a heavy resistance and got drunk first, he would have hardly remembered the lesson when he got back sober :D
He didn’t know it would be the 3rd one It could have been the 5th or 6th, but he would throw up eventually Alfred will remember the first time he threw up from drinking, and the lesson behind it
I think two quotes of Ecbert were deleted from the shorter version. First one: "No? Oh, well, that's good. A king should know how to be bored and not show it." And this one, too: "Alfred, we could never call ourselves any better than the heathen savages who attack us if we neglect the knowledge and the wisdom that is contained in books."
without this extension we can't understand how ecbert drinks waters whereas alfred drinks wine. because they cut the scene when he takes water. (sorry for my english). but this part is so important to understand the scene that I don't understand how can they cut this.
I have watched jewish people teach exactly The same Principe to their Offspring. The Out their child Standing on a Board or high Level. Then they Tell The child -jump, I will Catch you. The child jumps. The child smashes His Body into The Floor. The father says -that is so you learn YOU CAN NEVER TRUST 100% IN NOBODY EXCEPT YOURSELF.
This is brilliant! He was wrong about what is necessary for a people in order to not partake of continual evil actions as the Vikings. It's the knowledge of Christ, not the wisdom of books
”Partake of continual evil actions as the vikings” Just like the church and most christians have done even long before the age of vikings. We are all good, we are all evil. The moment you see yourself morally superior to others you are lost in the game, creating doubt, anger and seperation between our own. You are free to hold the beliefs you want, but do not give way to astonishment. We are all the same.
"Don`t ever let yourself be influenced by other people..." That is actually a very good lesson.
That would mean *not* to learn from others, which is not possible nor would it be smart. A better advice would be to surround yourself with winner types whos influence is beneficial and to avoid losers.
@@Garium87 The key word is influence not learn. He already addresses the importance of knowledge at the beginning, by the end your choices should yours using your own mind (collection of your acquired knowledge and more). A Kings role is to lead.
Alfred has already has surrounded himself with successful people. Being the King and all the texts. Obviously birds of a feather flock together but if you're merely copying successful peers you have around you and not adding your unique flavour. You aren't important, you're merely being an imitation.
Nice try Alex, but you don't get to be king of the armchair know-it-alls for this comments section. Try again with another video. And, Christopher, exactly! You can wear the crown.
@@chrisi.d.m575 "The key word is influence not learn." Right but you act as if the keyword would be "mind control."
Every teacher and lesson, as well as every person you surround yourself with, does "influence" you. That is not necessarily negative. And again, you can't avoid that. Just realistically, how could you do that? You can only choose who will influence you by choosing who you suround yourself with.
"Obviously birds of a feather flock together" That implies that people who think similar are sticking together, which is true but I was pointing out that the opposite happens as well. If you surround yourself with people, you will become more like them, even if you have been very different before.
"if you're merely copying successful peers you have around you and not adding your unique flavour. You aren't important, you're merely being an imitation."
I think that's the weakest part of your argument because it is literally impossible to become "someone's copy" without "your own flavour."
No matter how much you learn from other people, you will always be different and at the end, it will always be you who decided what he learns from whom.
@@Garium87 you have to take context of what's going on here... he says influence after he made the kid drink till he puked. He wants him to learn yes but not be influenced to make poor decisions. Basically saying dont follow what someone says blindly because they are smart. Learn from them yes but don't necessarily follow them. It's great logic because smart men use logic to manipulate people. He is trying to teach that to him.
Ecbert was one of the best characters on this show.
For me this is the best line in the series "Don`t ever let yourself be influenced by other people"
"Always think your own taughts and act on them"
Just a great quote!
Ragnar too warned Bjorn about power.
“Power is always dangerous. It attracts the worst and corrupts the best. I never asked for power. Power is only given to those who are prepared to lower themselves to pick it up.”
A nice dialogue later between Ragnar and Ecbert was during a feast:
Ragnar: Are you corrupt?
Ecbert: Ooh, yes. Are you corrupt?
Ragnar: hehe.... yes.
@@gandalf8216lmao
I love how much Ecbert loves Alfred
" if you want to test a man's character .. Give him power " A.L
Ecbert was sooo cool
Beautiful scene. Teach your sons these life lessons so he can spot the snakes in the grass
I would pay to see a series about King Ecbert bullying his real son from childhood to adulthood :D
What a lesson
The necessity of this lesson is shown in the movie “the king”. People will use and abuse you if you don’t have the ability to say no when your heart and head agree that something is a mistake.
Listen to him, he knows everything.
Imagine if Althered got the same treatment as Alfred
Poor kid
@Just a Man Trying To Learn what mistakes? he was usurped simple and straight. what would you do if you were in his place?
@@siddharth5025 he wasn’t usurped, he was offered the throne and he rejected it
He turned on Alfred the as soon as they had a disagreement
I’d imagine their relationship in ‘The Last a Kingdom’ is more accurate than their relationship in Vikings
@@michaelmccomb2594 What you mean offered? His bitch of a mother forced him to reject it and then killed him later on. The Last Kingdom is the true depiction of Wessex, Alfred was never some bastard of Aethelwulf's wife, fathered by a monk named Athelstan, Athelstan is a noble name, not to mention the name of the very first King of England and probably the greatest King of England of all time. And a monk should have never been named that.
@@michaelmccomb2594 he was forced to reject it by his mother
think your own thought and act on them
Yes, we all heard what was said in the video. Unless you're challenged and deaf.
Ecbert lesson 101 : how to prevent yourself from sociopaths.
a powerful lesson.
As a Greek, i would like to see Ecgbehrt give a book to Alfred and tell him that " what i gave you is the epic "Iliad" written by an ancient Greek poet" and, then, explain the plot of the epic.
Well sadly its not so likely that he had the Illiad back in the days and on the place where it lays, so Gregor the Great is historicaly far better.
But I agree with you: a Saga (yes Epos would be better) in a Saga would be lovely
What is the music that plays from 2:18 onwards when Ecbert says "one day you may be king"?
Trying to look for it to download.
and I came here again ONLY because of the music lol 😀
did anybody knew yet?
indeed, nobody?
Which episode?
Season 4 episode 17
Lili1127 thanks :)
I see that your bored already 😂😂
A good lesson, but how did he know he would vomit at the third glass? If Alfred had a heavy resistance and got drunk first, he would have hardly remembered the lesson when he got back sober :D
well its a movie so ... yeah
He didn’t know it would be the 3rd one
It could have been the 5th or 6th, but he would throw up eventually
Alfred will remember the first time he threw up from drinking, and the lesson behind it
@@michaelmccomb2594 Also wine was made in a different way back then, sort of non filtered, so it was more dense and more alcoholic.
"Heavy resistance" haha it's sound like a born superpower. Don't you remember your first drink and how much was too much - he's just a kid
@@moaadmarset9771 A movie? Does it go for one hour or two in a single clip? No? Then how in fuck is it a movie?
This is king afred from the last kingdom ??
King Alfred who united all of Wessex and yes.
@@nothingleft3473 Wessex was already United
what part is extended?
I think two quotes of Ecbert were deleted from the shorter version. First one: "No? Oh, well, that's good. A king should know how to be bored and not show it." And this one, too: "Alfred, we could never call ourselves any better than the heathen savages who attack us if we neglect the knowledge and the wisdom that is contained in books."
Thanx
without this extension we can't understand how ecbert drinks waters whereas alfred drinks wine. because they cut the scene when he takes water. (sorry for my english). but this part is so important to understand the scene that I don't understand how can they cut this.
Yes, and that is true for other cut scenes, too.
S A N T I A G O
¡Que fue hermano!, ¿Así te tiene el Age of Empires? 😆
If Scar from The Lion King were human he would look like Ecbert.
And if he actually cared enough to rule.
Questa serie è come la musica di Verdi sublime
I have watched jewish people teach exactly The same Principe to their Offspring. The Out their child Standing on a Board or high Level. Then they Tell The child -jump, I will Catch you.
The child jumps. The child smashes His Body into The Floor. The father says -that is so you learn YOU CAN NEVER TRUST 100% IN NOBODY EXCEPT YOURSELF.
This is brilliant! He was wrong about what is necessary for a people in order to not partake of continual evil actions as the Vikings. It's the knowledge of Christ, not the wisdom of books
The only reason you know of Christ is because of a book
@@kinghunter6097 God is not a book
”Partake of continual evil actions as the vikings” Just like the church and most christians have done even long before the age of vikings. We are all good, we are all evil. The moment you see yourself morally superior to others you are lost in the game, creating doubt, anger and seperation between our own. You are free to hold the beliefs you want, but do not give way to astonishment. We are all the same.
This is truly tripe.