Talladega: Scoring Pylons Vanish, Heartache for Ford, and Last Lap Carnage | The Teardown
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2024
- Was Talladega a good race?
A fuel-savings superspeedway race at Talladega sparks some debate between Jeff and Jordan, but there's no arguing over the importance of a Michael Jordan celebration for NASCAR. Meanwhile, the guys dive into the scoring pylon debate and talk about where TV commercials were excessive.
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Every commercial break should be side by side. No one pays attention to full screen ads
Agree. This would be a good compromise for me with all of the constant ads. I get that they have to make money but god damn. I pull up the dd12 stream on my phone so I can still watch the race during the ad breaks
I change the channel every time they cut to commercial
There's a reason most other forms of motorsport run NO ads during the race. Or for endurance events, at most one set an hour. One of the many things that makes NASCAR a pretty unwatchable experience at times
Hope Eric Jones is ok. At some point there needs to be a conversation with Nemecheck. This dude seems to be on a record pace for bringing out cautions.
What? Wallace is not to blame??
Yeah bigot he isnt to blame. Sorry you dont have annything to talk about during the klan meeting.@@rebelsoul5980
@@rebelsoul5980no
Cole Custer and John hunter need to swap spots
Totally agree, he should have never been given a 2nd chance in the cup series.
Ty Gibbs killed the third lane at the end of the race. It was moving fine until he slowed it.
I started screaming at the TV. Even my Fiancé asked, "what is that car doing? He just slowed everybody down" and she barely watches Nascar lol
He’s definitely making friends and gaining trust out there.
I've stopped watching races live at this point. I can save about an hour every Sunday if I skip through commercials.
I haven’t watched a race live in 30 years for that very reason… And you’re saving a lot more than an hour when you count parts of the pre race nonsense and any uninteresting down time.
Also, props to Gragson for being an AWESOME drafting partner for BK.
Again don't know why you watch, complaining about every race is silly.
No racecar driver drives 100% every lap.
Talladega has never been 100% throttle. The behind car has always been half throttle because of the draft.
Why drive 100% on lap 50.... Why?
Funny Nascar used to be, you can have this spot now I'll get it later, but now these two want them full throttle every lap.
I've been watching for 30 years, that was an awesome Talladega race...if your concerned about throttle % when they are running 3 wide, I don't know what to say, no matter where they go they can't run 100% going two wide.
Don't get it.
Well, said! Thank you!
This car has ruined short tracks and plate races!! They were literally 2 by 2 at the end....if you weren't in the first 2 rows, you had zero chance.......
I disagree. I thought it was a great race!
@@roberthevern6169 nothing wrong with that.....I challenge you to go watch the 2003 Aaron's 499 or the 2007 daytona 500 and see what you think
a part of me misses the tandem drafting from 2011
I'm with Jordan. I couldn't name 3 Taylor Swift songs if I tried. Only 1 I know is Tim McGraw.
I know zero Swift songs! Led Zep, all songs! Nascar fan since mid 60s....I'm 69
yrs old!
If I recall, 2001 had a good plate package. the 2001 Talladega race was caution free and had 37 lead changes.
I waited up all night guys! No sleep! 😅
I respect Jordan's aversion to Taylor Swift so much lol
Toyota saved us from 40 laps of fuel saving to the end, what a snoozer by talladega standards. Running two wide like they’re at Atlanta.
I would bet that The Powers That Be were assuming that there would be more yellow and even red flags for crashes and cleanup because, well, it’s Dega and that’s what happens. But this race was freakishly clean, so I think they ended up with no good places to put all the commercials. If we’d had a messier race, we’d have had more places for commercials
people romanticize gen4 races but forget often times it also came down to track position, and fuel milage is not inheritly bad, but starts becoming a problem when people start saving fuel from the drop of the green flag, the aero package is fine but they need mix up (or straight up drop) the stages so they don't race to make it to the stage caution
Indycar at Long Beach was 100 minutes flag to flag with 19 minutes of commercials. 19%. Only 6 minutes of those ads were full screen during green flag racing.
Nascar at Talladega was about 193 minutes flag to flag with 58 minutes of commercials. 30%. 29 minutes of full screen ads during during green flag racing.
F1 in China was about 100 minutes flag to flag with zero commercials.
I would gladly pay nfl sunday ticket prices for an ad free broadcast option
Jordan isn’t the Lone Ranger. Everyone isn’t a flaming Swifty like you Gluck..😂😂
Was Jordan not paying attention to the fact that 3 wide only happened because nobody cared about racing? Just saving fuel? And when they tried to do a 3rd lane when everyone was racing for real it wasn't possible?
I loved tandem at the time. Still do.
It’s not that they’re not running flat out the whole time. It’s the fact that when they do run flat out nobody can pass. That’s why this is so terrible.
Watch 1987 and 1988 races at Talledega
Why?
Those seasons, not even just restricted traxx
Why not have all green flag commercials be side by side and then full screen during the cautions. It's a joke to go to a full screen commercial with eight to go in a stage after the leaders just got jammed up.
True that!
Who would have thought the best rant we got this week was about T swift 😂
Where is the anger for this car like it was martinsville ?.. this car sucks when they go full throttle
I was getting torched for say McDowell threw a bad block on X. But I should have clarified, I dont really blame him. If he had time to react or thought ahead, he could have door slammed him and gotten away with it.
Jeff Gluck is a closet Swiftie... 😂😂😂
The Toyota Crash With 43 Lap's To Go Was Crazy Sunday Afternoon Talladega But Got Tyler Reddick #45 Track Position & Can't Believe McDowell Didn't Win Excellent Driving By His Part #34 Love's Ford Dominating Last 38 Lap's
Yall talking about a driver with multiple wins making decisions on the last lap @ Talladega, remember... There wasn't a single driver in the top ten, coming out of turn four, on the last lap, that had a single win.
Agree, Jordan... Sandbagging in Nascar sucks.
Lol, tandem racing w COT was ridiculous. I remember when they figured that out, and it was the most disappointing race I'd ever been to up to that point @ Daytona.
I did find it interesting where the broadcast had to keep track of two separate "packs" of cars. It's a twist on the giant pack racing that Sr. always despised. But, pack racing seems to be the best racing on super speedways. Having different packs at different points on the track brings an interesting element, and one that I don't think is entirely terrible. The manufacturer strategies vs team strategies was a bit much tho. Are we going to see three packs w three manufacturers? No bueno.
The commercials and their timing is terrible. I'm going to go even lower than Jeff. High 40s low 50s,between 49 and 52.
Scoring pylons?! Daytona used to have a couple. They were incandescent bulbs. Like an old school marquee. Look at them now. They have rgb panels, like the giant signs in Vegas. The pylon is beautiful. Especially when the green flag drops. Daytona should be the model of what an awesome scoring pylon looks like.
Good man Jordan, Taylor Swift is highly overrated
Agreed!
How much would I have to pay TV to stop showing a billion commercials! I remember someone asking Mike Joy at COTA in 2022 and his response was "we need to pay bills". F1 has no commercials and while Max dominates still no commercials. I also can't name 3 Taylor Swift songs lol
The many cameras cost a lot operate.
McDowell was crashing before that 2nd block was ever attempted, we all saw that wreck coming. Problem with this style of fuel saving is that lug nut. Aside from all the the inability to pass with that tremendous spoiler. Single lug nut = less time spent in the pits. It becomes even more fuel saving because now LESS fuel has time to get into the car and it becomes a game of how slow can we go
(sidenote: I feel bad for you @Jeff Gluck, that co host is super annoying!)
I can imagine frustration is common if all you watch is Nascar. Sometimes the product isn't exciting. I watch Formula E, Indycar, and Nascar. The variety is great. Sunday was awesome being able to watch Long Beach and Talladega. By the way... I also don't listen to Taylor Swift or modern hip hop.
People like Jeff like to try and hang on to their youth by listening to young people's music. Good on you Jordan.
Do all of us say Formula Un instead of one because of Jean Girrard?
I have never liked speedway racing. But I loved the good times in Dega camping area. Great people were there. NASCAR is TV centered and since they are discouraging track attendance, there is no need for pylons any more. I did not regonize any of the Taylor Swift songs named so I guess I have not heard any either. I am an audiophile and listen to music a lot but just never heard her.
There is no passing!!!! 3 wide was a lie - only happened because of fuel saving. When racing for the win, you have no shot unless you have track position. Stupid, needs to be fixed. This is worse than the tandem days.
I don't agree with Jordan about much but I also couldn't name more than 2 or 3 Taylor Swift songs.😆
The point of stage breaks was to provide for commercials. Do the people who watch on tv actually care about watching the stage break race off pit road?
If there is green flag racing, do not cut to commercial.
I dvr and skip commercials
Not every driver is gonna wreck the field if they are leading on the last lap🤣🤣 Some of the things you guy's say!!
Define 'you guys'...other commenters or the post? Be specific.
I have never heard a Taylor Swift song. But I live out in the stuck.
If someone like Kyle Bush was in that 23 car I believe that car would have a championship by now. Time for 2311 look for a more qualified driver.
It’s a 3 yr old team with 6 wins there driver line up is fine, It’s good you don’t make decisions for 23x1 racing. They are finishing in the top on a regular.
@@slackhammer4467 keep drinking the Kool aid
@@slackhammer4467 bubba 1 win Reddick 10. One is a driver the other is for advertisement. Lol
@@bobhope4732 Bubba has won 2 in cup 5 in truck besides there are some drivers out there that hasn’t won any and not even close
@@bobhope4732 it’s pretty good to me , long time Jeff Gordon fan am used of peoples hating drivers I like.
Ive never heard any of Swifts songs. Couldn't name them. Nothing.
NASCAR broke the short track package and the super speedways and they refuse to make any changes so either we stop watching or accept it
McDowell showed us some PATHETIC driving!!!!
Why is Jordan defending commercials.
Michael Jordan is a true NASCAR sicko lol
Let's play kiss the Bubba wallace rope boy's a$$ for Nascar will be the media's role of the week.
Your racism is showing
I raced short tracks (nascar sanctioned). Every lap I ran I put the hammer down and went like hell. That is real racing
I would 100% believe a guy with that hat and those glasses and that beard would not know anything about Taylor Swift. I would 100% believe that he is so oblivious and so out of tune with pop culture and have the ego to admit it
Jordan I agree with NOT knowing any Taylor Swift songs. I have my own play list and SHE'S NOT in it and no country music is there
The worst type of people are the ones that just “live with the product” some of the stupidest takes I’ve heard in nascar in recent memory, the next gen car is awful and kill the sport.
There is absolutely nothing more detrimental to this sport, than how Fox broadcasts races. From the booth, to the camera work, to the piss poor direction. The entire thing needs a complete overhaul. Jordan, spare us the "well commercials need to pay the bills" bullshit. Fans dont care. Its pathetic direction to have back to back plate races where they goto commercial with 5 laps to go in a stage (they did it in Xfinity too).
I have a scoring pylon in my hand. It's called my phone. Just as easy to check my phone for running/finishing order.
I'm glad you're so attached to your phone. My phone alarm tells me when to tune in for the commercial fest that is sports.
Otherwise my phone gets no use during the race. Guess I'm too old.....
Have you ever been to Dega? Much less using the world wide web at the track? I didn’t think so. SMFH
@@roberthevern6169bruh has no clue what 💩 he’s spitting outta his pie hole… using your phone at Dega is like playing the lottery. 😂😂😂
brain dead take
@@roberthevern6169says the one that’s under every RUclips comment the day after the race but literally whose voice doesn’t mean sh*t to others 😂
I swear you guys are living on another planet the last few weeks lmao. The problem isn't that there's strategy. The problem is that it's so impossible to pass that they can run 20mph slower and it's still going to work out better than actually racing. The bigger issue though is that superspeedway racing now is hanging out for 4 hours, then wrecking and getting people hurt. No in between. It's a joke. Yet again, you guys seem like you'd be happier watching wrestling than covering motorsports. Actual racing at Richmond was bad in your minds, wreck fest at Texas and impossible to pass was good? And this was fine? For the last 30 laps not a single spot in the top 10 actually changed. The second they tried the whole field wrecked. Joke.
Edit: the scoring pylons were also an issue at cota. It was just not being used for most of the weekend. If you didn't have really good eye sight you did not know for sure who was running where.
I'm usually Team Jordan, but he's outta pocket for not knowing more than one Taylor Swift song. And I am no Swiftie.
I actually like the fuel saving, but it is a problem when it is damn near impossible to make a third lane when running full throttle. At least they are three wide when saving fuel.
The only Taylor Swift song I know is "Shake It Off". Literally couldn't name another one. I'm Team Jordan
I’m with Jordan. I don’t know Taylor Swift songs either
Tandum racing sucks. Speedway racing today is awesome. I love it. It's a luck race. They can move around if they want. It's who is upfront and doesn't wreck coming out of turn 4. Great race yesterday. I could of handled a few more big wrecks.
Does dirty mo go out of their way to promote the most unlikable people?
I am on Jordan's side, Taylor Swift is completely not interesting