Greetings from Perth Australia. You get issues with every build. Nice looking bird, thanks so much for your videos really look forward to all your broadcasts
NIce video and post build information. Nice maiden, I think this plane has a real presence in the air and except for the wind catching you on the one landing she really locks on the landing. Thanks for sharing, I really enjoyed it.
Man I love that plane,I've been wanting that one since it rolled out from hobbyking, I have the avios albatross and love it! Been getting some eflite planes but I still want that one. With that being said I appreciate the tops on the technical issues! Great video FGF'S! keep flying.
Greg, you can install a steering gyro inline before the servo that controls the steering. That might litigate the wobble while taking off 🛫 could also assign to its own separate channel and dampen with expo and rates. At least that’s what TwoBrosRC does.
Great informative video ! I own this plane and Im stil in the process of finishing my custom paint job. One thing I ALWAYS do with all of my foam planes is immediately cut the control surfaces off and install DuBro square hinges with finish grade epoxy. Unfortunately with this particular plane you cannot do this with the flaps and ailerons because of the way they are attached only on a tiny section of the top surface. Im glad you included your segment on painting the existing hinges with a bit of adhesive - good preventative addition !
A good majority of Rc Pilots tend to not Flair enough on Tricycle gear planes and thus always complain how the nose gear is to weak...Well Flair the nose up some more and you wont be bending or breaking nose gears off....Maybe their to used to Tail Draggers and are used to coming down on the mains?
Hi..interesting maiden! Very windy!! You obviously experienced those scary nosewheel antics first hand and your comments directed at Hobbyking were spot on! I've heard they've been experimenting with a redesigned nosewheel so there may be a version 2 on the way. I hope so... it's a lot of plane for the money. Maybe that explains the dramatic price cuts that have be introduced...although it could also be because of slow sales due to the adverse comments the nose gear generated! Glad you doublechecked the mounting screws....something I should have done! I was lucky to survive the maiden! I fly at Club Torre, just outside Valencia, Spain and we have a tarmac airstrip that chewed up the original foam tyres so I have fitted low bounce rubber ones and it makes a big difference to landings and taxiing. As I mentioned earlier I changed over the nosewheel to a P-38 one which fitted exactly. I cut the strut just above the coil spring and the new gear slipped on perfectly. If there is a small problem it's that there is a lot of travel on the suspension and if you land firmly the plane can tip slightly and combined with the dip of the suspension it's easy to ground one or both props. Check out your first landing on the grass! The new nose gear has improved the ground handling immensely as will the ME-262's if you go down that route. Congratulations on your videos which really help explain building and flying all kinds of rc planes in a calm and detailed way which is a boon to 73 yr old rookies like myself. It's a great hobby for pensioners and all ages. Saludos desde España!
Just wanted to add, I've just changed the nosewheel servo to a separate channel to help with adjustments. And I've just bought a couple of Turnigy Graphene 5.000 45C batteries and first time out I got 51% and 50% on 12 minute flights.
I have added some low bounce tires for the mains and the Freewing ME 262 nose gear for the nose. I love this plane and thanks for your info and watching!
My front gear was a piece of junk also. It had so much slop in the movement that it was very hard to have it track straight on take offs and while taxiing. It also would not function every time, and I ended up having to land the plane with the nose gear down part way. It then collapsed and stripped out the gear and I got road rash on the bottom of the front of both engines and ruined both props. I have replaced the gear with one from a Flightline P-38. I understand a Freewing ME-262 front gear works too. Otherwise, the plane works fine. Since replacing the gear, it is much improved in handling and functionality. Another guy in my flying club has had the exact same problems with the front gear not steering straight and his nose gear didn't come down at all and he had to land with the nose gear up.
The aluminum arm that comes off the nose gear , there’s a small shaft that drops through the arm . Does that just hold in place by gravity ? Are was the there something holding it in place ? Mine popped out today . Was noticing the nose gear was tracking differently from rudder . Tried to slightly adjust it with a small twist , clevis popped right out with this shaft in it , from the arm
Just read on a rcgroups thread that as of June HKing are shipping out King Twins in white with upgraded nosewheels to be followed by livery versions. This explains the clearance price on the last of the old stock. The upgrade has a stronger and reshaped connector rod, a solid strut without a coil made of stronger metal with an additional piece plastic support bracket as well as a slightly larger front wheel. Oh and an upgraded servo as well. Apparently they have been listening to customers' reponses which may be a first! It's taken them well over a year! Upgrade kits will apparently be available shortly. At least the upgrade if it worksI (I'll wait for some reports from new buyers first! ) will have that characteristic forward rake. My P-38 conversion is more vertical and not so scale but of course has suspension. Time will tell if the replacement gear works! Also when changing wheels be super careful when removing the C clips as they ping off either into the wing or get lost on your workshop floor and dissappear! They are super difficult to replace at least here in Spain! Left the plane out of action for days!
Figures I would be snatched in by the sale and Missouri. OH well that's modeling. Good to hear HK is listening to customers however. That's a first for them.
They have upgraded nose gears, but the retract is the same old one that is having problems. So steering may be better when on the ground, but the gear will probably have problems with going up and down.
I didn't catch the full model # of the receiver you used. I just heard AR6T. I just purchased this plane and will be adding an AR631. Wondering if you used a 6 channel receiver and if you had to do anything funny with a Y harness for the lights and ebic?
Ive been looking at this bird for along time and it always seems to be shipped global and that cost tons of money. Any Idea when it may be in a American whs to ship?
Dont even get me started with the wing locks Fats. I was on the phone with HK and they told me I was nuts. You have to modify them like you are doing and I was pissed off with HK insulting me. I said to HK are you saying im the only one that has this issue and they said yes. I told them BS. Otherwise its a great flyer and nice.
Yes HK customer support does struggle. i have long since disposed of this plane, I fell on it in the driveway and it broke my fall but it did not survive.
@@FatGuyFliesRC thats sad to hear. I have I mine and had to to do what you did to get them wings to lock. HK told me i was insane and basicly told me to F-OFF
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Its a great plane with some real promise for the future! There were some issues but after all is said in done I am very pleased with it!
Gunna nick name you MR Butter. What a sweep landing in a Maiden. Nicely done. Cool plane
Thanks and I really am loving this plane!
Greetings from Perth Australia. You get issues with every build. Nice looking bird, thanks so much for your videos really look forward to all your broadcasts
Glad you like them!
NIce video and post build information. Nice maiden, I think this plane has a real presence in the air and except for the wind catching you on the one landing she really locks on the landing. Thanks for sharing, I really enjoyed it.
Well I have flown it 2 more times now and it is quickly becoming my favorite SCALE plane. And thank you.
Man I love that plane,I've been wanting that one since it rolled out from hobbyking, I have the avios albatross and love it! Been getting some eflite planes but I still want that one. With that being said I appreciate the tops on the technical issues! Great video FGF'S! keep flying.
Thanks and I will keep flying and producing these videos as long as you all want them!
Greg, you can install a steering gyro inline before the servo that controls the steering. That might litigate the wobble while taking off 🛫 could also assign to its own separate channel and dampen with expo and rates. At least that’s what TwoBrosRC does.
Yes its own channel would work but I am out of channels now with this receiver.
Great informative video ! I own this plane and Im stil in the process of finishing my custom paint job. One thing I ALWAYS do with all of my foam planes is immediately cut the control surfaces off and install DuBro square hinges with finish grade epoxy. Unfortunately with this particular plane you cannot do this with the flaps and ailerons because of the way they are attached only on a tiny section of the top surface. Im glad you included your segment on painting the existing hinges with a bit of adhesive - good preventative addition !
Thanks for your experience and model setup practice. I do the paint on glue reinforcement on any foamy that does not already have mechanical hinges.
Great video Fg.....gougous plane 😉😎
Thanks so much!!
I wonder if you got the V1. That could be why it was on sale. V2 supposed to have taken care of the landing gear play with better retracted.
I got the V1. I have ordered better parts to replace the stock!
A good majority of Rc Pilots tend to not Flair enough on Tricycle gear planes and thus always complain how the nose gear is to weak...Well Flair the nose up some more and you wont be bending or breaking nose gears off....Maybe their to used to Tail Draggers and are used to coming down on the mains?
Fair point and I agree tri cycle and tail draggers land differently and you need to acknowledge that and fly/land accordingly.
Hi..interesting maiden! Very windy!! You obviously experienced those scary nosewheel antics first hand and your comments directed at Hobbyking were spot on! I've heard they've been experimenting with a redesigned nosewheel so there may be a version 2 on the way. I hope so... it's a lot of plane for the money. Maybe that explains the dramatic price cuts that have be introduced...although it could also be because of slow sales due to the adverse comments the nose gear generated! Glad you doublechecked the mounting screws....something I should have done! I was lucky to survive the maiden! I fly at Club Torre, just outside Valencia, Spain and we have a tarmac airstrip that chewed up the original foam tyres so I have fitted low bounce rubber ones and it makes a big difference to landings and taxiing. As I mentioned earlier I changed over the nosewheel to a P-38 one which fitted exactly. I cut the strut just above the coil spring and the new gear slipped on perfectly. If there is a small problem it's that there is a lot of travel on the suspension and if you land firmly the plane can tip slightly and combined with the dip of the suspension it's easy to ground one or both props. Check out your first landing on the grass! The new nose gear has improved the ground handling immensely as will the ME-262's if you go down that route. Congratulations on your videos which really help explain building and flying all kinds of rc planes in a calm and detailed way which is a boon to 73 yr old rookies like myself. It's a great hobby for pensioners and all ages. Saludos desde España!
Just wanted to add, I've just changed the nosewheel servo to a separate channel to help with adjustments. And I've just bought a couple of Turnigy Graphene 5.000 45C batteries and first time out I got 51% and 50% on 12 minute flights.
I have added some low bounce tires for the mains and the Freewing ME 262 nose gear for the nose. I love this plane and thanks for your info and watching!
Sorry...not your first landing....your second...on grass. Notice how easily she tips over to one side and the props can get damaged!
My front gear was a piece of junk also. It had so much slop in the movement that it was very hard to have it track straight on take offs and while taxiing. It also would not function every time, and I ended up having to land the plane with the nose gear down part way. It then collapsed and stripped out the gear and I got road rash on the bottom of the front of both engines and ruined both props. I have replaced the gear with one from a Flightline P-38. I understand a Freewing ME-262 front gear works too. Otherwise, the plane works fine. Since replacing the gear, it is much improved in handling and functionality. Another guy in my flying club has had the exact same problems with the front gear not steering straight and his nose gear didn't come down at all and he had to land with the nose gear up.
Oh I agree. Great Flyer, looks real good but in direct contrast the gear sucks!!
The aluminum arm that comes off the nose gear , there’s a small shaft that drops through the arm . Does that just hold in place by gravity ? Are was the there something holding it in place ? Mine popped out today . Was noticing the nose gear was tracking differently from rudder . Tried to slightly adjust it with a small twist , clevis popped right out with this shaft in it , from the arm
No it stays moveable to turn the nose with the rudder , if I am understanding you correctly.
@@FatGuyFliesRC What holds it in place ? There’s a head on that shaft on one end , but what was on the other end ?
I've yet to get a plane with retracts. Might just keep it that way. I see so many gear issues on planes having retracts.
Retracts are a bother from time to time but they look so cool!
Just read on a rcgroups thread that as of June HKing are shipping out King Twins in white with upgraded nosewheels to be followed by livery versions. This explains the clearance price on the last of the old stock. The upgrade has a stronger and reshaped connector rod, a solid strut without a coil made of stronger metal with an additional piece plastic support bracket as well as a slightly larger front wheel. Oh and an upgraded servo as well.
Apparently they have been listening to customers' reponses which may be a first! It's taken them well over a year! Upgrade kits will apparently be available shortly.
At least the upgrade if it worksI (I'll wait for some reports from new buyers first! ) will have that characteristic forward rake. My P-38 conversion is more vertical and not so scale but of course has suspension. Time will tell if the replacement gear works!
Also when changing wheels be super careful when removing the C clips as they ping off either into the wing or get lost on your workshop floor and dissappear! They are super difficult to replace at least here in Spain! Left the plane out of action for days!
Figures I would be snatched in by the sale and Missouri. OH well that's modeling. Good to hear HK is listening to customers however. That's a first for them.
They have upgraded nose gears, but the retract is the same old one that is having problems. So steering may be better when on the ground, but the gear will probably have problems with going up and down.
I didn't catch the full model # of the receiver you used. I just heard AR6T. I just purchased this plane and will be adding an AR631. Wondering if you used a 6 channel receiver and if you had to do anything funny with a Y harness for the lights and ebic?
It is the ar637t with sage and as3x.
I plugged lights too bind port just for power. Don't remember a ubec off hand.
Ive been looking at this bird for along time and it always seems to be shipped global and that cost tons of money. Any Idea when it may be in a American whs to ship?
It is hit and miss. Keep an eye on it. Keep the US warehouse filter in and at a random point it will give you an ETA.
@@FatGuyFliesRC thanks fat I have that on and I wish they would get the bird in the US faster. thanks bud!!!
got my lights on a Y harness with the UBEC in the bind port.
I did the same , used a y with the ubec. They just need power.
Dont even get me started with the wing locks Fats. I was on the phone with HK and they told me I was nuts. You have to modify them like you are doing and I was pissed off with HK insulting me. I said to HK are you saying im the only one that has this issue and they said yes. I told them BS. Otherwise its a great flyer and nice.
Yes HK customer support does struggle. i have long since disposed of this plane, I fell on it in the driveway and it broke my fall but it did not survive.
@@FatGuyFliesRC thats sad to hear. I have I mine and had to to do what you did to get them wings to lock. HK told me i was insane and basicly told me to F-OFF
how are you splitting the lights? running a AR637T with a NX10
I did the same , used a y with the ubec. They just need power.
Avios Bushmule uses the same Propellers too
Yeah I got a 4 pack in parts storage.
I hope you checked the battery tray - those screws holding it do NOT hold it they are too short!!
Will do thanks!
HK has this on sale for $300 seems like a good deal but the problems you point out scare me.
To be honest I love the plane but I should have waited for an improved version.
What is the flight time?
Solid 5 to 6 minutes on a 4000 4s.
@@FatGuyFliesRC why only 5min? No space for bigger battery?
Trunnion!
Yeah I forget the terminology sometimes.
It's still on sale.
Yeah now I am thinking about the albatross before the sale ends...My plane budget is way OVER budget right now so I may not be able to...
@@FatGuyFliesRC
Me too 😮💨
if it has those kind of issues l wouldn't even buy one just a waste of money
Well if I could do it over again I would have saved the money too.