How Close is Too Close? Ed & Shaun in SHAUN OF THE DEAD

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  • Опубликовано: 15 апр 2024
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    How do you stand up for yourself and set boundaries?
    Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright are doing a movie couple (friendship) therapy on Shaun and Ed from Shaun of the Dead. They’re taking a look at healthy and unhealthy boundaries in relationships. Jonathan talks about what happens when you’re afraid to set boundaries or when they're broken and what to do about it. Alan talks about the power of the edit in movies and how Shaun of the Dead puts on a masterclass. Same goes for the impeccable writing and storytelling through jokes!
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  • @CinemaTherapyShow
    @CinemaTherapyShow  Месяц назад +63

    PDS Debt is offering a free debt analysis. It only takes thirty seconds. Get yours at PDSDebt.com/cinema.

    • @is_just_diana
      @is_just_diana Месяц назад +4

      Alan... your hair in this add. I love it

    • @ethanporter3179
      @ethanporter3179 Месяц назад

      Thanks Cinema Therapy I was looking forward to this video I love this Movie Shaun of The Dead
      One of my favorite Zombie Movies right beside Zombieland thanks for making a video of this

    • @KeepbanningKeepcreating
      @KeepbanningKeepcreating Месяц назад

      What you think if a woman holding another woman back and her happy ending is with a man

    • @KeepbanningKeepcreating
      @KeepbanningKeepcreating Месяц назад

      In real life I've seen couples with attraction but no integrity develope integrity. But couples with integrity get tired of the obligations and throw out integrity

    • @markcastellanet9672
      @markcastellanet9672 Месяц назад +2

      I am surprised cinema therapy hasn't done the sandlot yet and the relationship between smalls and Benny.

  • @uncreative5766
    @uncreative5766 Месяц назад +1730

    Shaun of the Dead? Does this mean Hot Fuzz is coming soon?!

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Месяц назад +1354

    You can tell that Simon Pegg and Nick Frost have been friends for their entire lives, really adding to their strong chemistry on screen. Even when Ed has been turned into a zombie, he still gets to hang out with Shaun, play video games all day, and not clean up, so it's not that much different from before.

    • @Kelarys
      @Kelarys Месяц назад +81

      well, it's different in one way, nobody is nagging him to be more accountable. Which is what he always wanted. Hurray for a happy ending

    • @voidwalker7774
      @voidwalker7774 Месяц назад +8

      You are a bot.

    • @TheSchaef47
      @TheSchaef47 Месяц назад +43

      Ed kind of embodies the underlying theme of this movie.
      Monster movies - and the monsters that inhabit them - are often metaphors for other fears that plague society. War, disease, nuclear fallout, Communism, emerging technology, sexual deviance, exploitation by the privileged few, the panic induced by a looming spectre of terrorism...
      What I love about this take on the zombie movie is that the zombies represent ennui, a listless generation drowning in nihilism.
      And if the point was too subtle having Shaun do it, basically everybody in the opening credits shambles about like zombies before the infection even begins. And at the end, in addition to Ed during in the shed playing games, the zombies after the crisis are grocery clerks and reality TV stars.

    • @BoredTAK5000
      @BoredTAK5000 Месяц назад +8

      Fun fact they have been friends their entire lives

    • @TrentR42
      @TrentR42 Месяц назад +14

      "Thanks babe."

  • @aceofaces0007
    @aceofaces0007 Месяц назад +606

    "Edgar Wright sometimes beats you over the head with it"
    *Clip of Shaun and Ed literally beating a zombie over the head*
    I see you, editor. You get a gold star.

  • @patrickmike2524
    @patrickmike2524 Месяц назад +926

    If you're running the whole Cornetto Trilogy, one of the underlying themes I realized is types of friendships. Long time friends in Shaun of the Dead, new friendships in Hot Fuzz and estranged friendships in The World's End

    • @countessD84
      @countessD84 Месяц назад +22

      Yes! That has my vote!

    • @hypokratesthehypocrite3513
      @hypokratesthehypocrite3513 Месяц назад +49

      Also in the worlds End Edgar, touches on Toxic Nostalgia which becomes a huge focal point in Last Night in Soho

    • @CatCheshire
      @CatCheshire Месяц назад +21

      And "Paul", where the new friend are is introduced into the mix
      xD

    • @Skywiser01
      @Skywiser01 Месяц назад +31

      What's interesting to me is they each play a different friend role type. Burnout loser: Simon in World"s End and Nick in Shaun of the Dead. Overly tight-ass type: Simon in Hot Fuzz and Nick in World's End. Easy-going layabout, Simon in Shaun of the Dead and Nick in Hot Fuzz so we get to see each permutation of the dynamic. Granted the details vary but we get to see each situation.

  • @adalovelace521
    @adalovelace521 Месяц назад +859

    Close friendships where you can be your silliest and your truer self are always a pleasure to see on screen

  • @ms_cartographer
    @ms_cartographer Месяц назад +589

    Honestly, I don't think Pete is as bad as people were supposed to be made to believe. He lives with roommates who don't respect him, and he tried giving Shaun good advice to try and fix his screwed up life.

    • @MissPickles1980
      @MissPickles1980 Месяц назад +163

      much of it depends on where you are in your own life stage. I was never a Shaun/Ed, but as I've gotten older, I've definitely become more Pete. Those who are still at the Shaun/Ed-at-the-start-of-the-film stage are going to find Pete an obnoxious kill-joy. Those who have already gone through their personal character arcs are going to find him less annoying, and possibly more identifiable. It's a bit like the meme about The Little Mermaid - at 16, you completely agree with Ariel; at 36, you completely agree with King Triton!

    • @Lickicker
      @Lickicker Месяц назад +29

      Its one of those things that, we havnt seen enough of their relationship or placed ourselves in his shoes enough to understand that we would feel the same way. Ive definitely been abit of a pete before.

    • @ms_cartographer
      @ms_cartographer Месяц назад +37

      @kalebhoward792 I've felt Pete AND Shaun. I've been both. But it's sad seeing your friend hold themself back and not progress. I can imagine it's frustrating for Pete to see Shaun so that to himself as well. Not to mention, Ed at times would take more than he'd give back.

    • @BatAmerica
      @BatAmerica Месяц назад +75

      Pete isn't bad, for the most part. He does have a nasty temper, and his inability to confront stressful situations without blowing up shows why we can learn from his behavior. That's the great thing about these characters: They all are imperfect, and we can see ourselves in them while also embracing our strengths and shortcomings.

    • @ms_cartographer
      @ms_cartographer Месяц назад +23

      @@BatAmerica that too. I may not agree with how he expresses things, but I can understand where it comes from.

  • @proudnerd9982
    @proudnerd9982 Месяц назад +171

    One detail I don't see anyone mention: the moment Shaun talks about the break up, Pete backs off a bit and just says to keep it down. Such a little thing that humanizes him

    • @Adrianne519
      @Adrianne519 21 день назад +14

      Yes! He was not as bad as people make him out to be, he had every right to be done with them. I wish we got more scenes with Pete because we were just seeing the breaking point of Pete

    • @proudnerd9982
      @proudnerd9982 9 дней назад +3

      @@Adrianne519 Totally. He isn’t a jerk. He’s fed up because he’s been waiting so long for them to get their sh!t together

  • @BatAmerica
    @BatAmerica Месяц назад +185

    Thank you for clarifying the difference between a close friendship and enmeshment. We as a society have a toxic expectation that because two people are close, they are romantically involved. While this movie discusses enmeshment and its damaging effects on a relationship, it still teaches us that romance is not the only worthwhile form of love.

  • @Colaschnittchen
    @Colaschnittchen Месяц назад +214

    I just love how they flip their roles in end of the world and shawn is the man child and ed is the responsable adult

    • @TaraTara-ld2xb
      @TaraTara-ld2xb Месяц назад +35

      Yeah and in Hot Fuzz Simon Pegg's character is the polar opposite of his character in The World's End. Nick Frost in Hot Fuzz is somewhere in the middle - not nearly as irresponsible as Ed, but not so responsible as in The World's End.

    • @CinemaTherapyShow
      @CinemaTherapyShow  Месяц назад +53

      Simon Pegg and Nick Frost get to have so much fun throughout the trilogy!

    • @thekraken1909
      @thekraken1909 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@CinemaTherapyShow
      We need them to star in more movies. Honestly, they bring so much chemistry and banter to these films. Highly enjoyable.

    • @Colaschnittchen
      @Colaschnittchen Месяц назад

      @@CinemaTherapyShow I know series aren’t you guys thing, but what about groncle Stan from gravity falls ?

  • @hatthat4789
    @hatthat4789 Месяц назад +49

    Literally never noticed this but during the scene where Petes yelling at Shaun and Ed, you can hear car alarms and chaos happening outside which explains why none of the zombies heard their antics. Every time you watch one of these movies you'll find something new and I am all for it

  • @ladyfoxwf1075
    @ladyfoxwf1075 Месяц назад +254

    Why is nobody mentioning THE HAIR, your hair looked great here Alan

    • @AdamRhodes536
      @AdamRhodes536 Месяц назад +3

      Looks halfway to Kenickie

    • @DERRELL-qw8kw
      @DERRELL-qw8kw Месяц назад

      Oh it looks sexy

    • @KKruse987
      @KKruse987 Месяц назад +3

      I 100% had this thought also 😂

    • @KKruse987
      @KKruse987 Месяц назад +2

      I 100% had the same thought 😂

    • @voyance4elle
      @voyance4elle Месяц назад +2

      true!!! I hope he sees your comment :)

  • @TheSchaef47
    @TheSchaef47 Месяц назад +76

    My favorite laugh in this movie is when Zombie Bill Nighy moving from the back of his car to the front, and just as Shaun shouts at his mum, "There's nothing left of the man you love in there!", he snaps off the too-loud radio.

    • @stotheh
      @stotheh День назад

      The Bill Nighy outtakes arr sublime

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Месяц назад +231

    The characters and their relationships are really key to the movie's success. You really care about what happens to them, even before the invasion goes down. Shaun and Philip finally mending fences before Philip succumbs to his injuries is always a tearjerker.

    • @18Hongo
      @18Hongo Месяц назад +25

      Oh god, I know a guy with the best story about that.
      So someone lent this dude the DVD of Shawn of the Dead, which he put on his shelf and forgot about. A couple of weeks later, the poor guy's dad died. Understandably, he's a complete wreck, and spends the next few months just going through the grieving process. At some point, he sees the DVD on the shelf, and thinks "You know what? Maybe a funny movie will cheer me up".
      He makes it to the scene where Shawn and Philip talk just before Philip dies, and about five minutes later the friend who lent him the movie in the first place gets a tearful phone call, and spends 30 seconds wondering why "Shawn of the Dead" has reduced his friend to tears, before remembering that scene and going "Oh. OH NO!"

  • @FishareFriendsNotFood972
    @FishareFriendsNotFood972 Месяц назад +118

    Thank you for pointing out that some enmeshed relationships are abusive and that in those circumstances, you don't owe them a conversation

  • @M4TCH3SM4L0N3
    @M4TCH3SM4L0N3 Месяц назад +68

    I have a friend I made in college, and while we were never as stagnant as either character, I was 100% the Ed character in the picture for a year or so after he got married. We both have ADHD (though I was undiagnosed at the time), and we spent almost every night after work playing videogames into the early morning. I made a point of trying to make myself scarce whenever he was doing anything with his wife, and I would often do chores and help out around their apartment, but people would joke about him being more "married" to me than to his wife, and it was definitely problematic. I didn't realize that until long after, of course. His wife was super emotionally intelligent, and even though she was frustrated, she was incredibly patient in finding ways to gently push him to set boundaries with me. It never felt like she was hurting our friendship (except for one time when there was a fight and a big misunderstanding, but we figured that out), because she wanted her husband to still have me as a friend. I didn't always like not being able to hang out with my friend all the time, but I always wanted his happiness, too, and I always wanted his marriage to be successful. The result was that we finally reached a point where we weren't totally enmeshed, but we could still hang out for hours at a time when it didn't conflict with his marriage. He's still my best friend to this day even though I live two states away and rarely get to see him.

    • @pdurfey1
      @pdurfey1 Месяц назад +21

      I don’t think you were holding me back 😊. I was just bad at boundaries. I’m glad we are still best friends even though we are far away now ❤

  • @mujicama
    @mujicama Месяц назад +75

    100% agree with how masterful Shaun of the Dead's writing is; it's witty, there's tons of subtle foreshadowing, excellent character conflict and growth...it's just "chef's kiss."

  • @uncreative5766
    @uncreative5766 Месяц назад +164

    Also, Jonathan, thank you for mentioning the whole "not wanting to rock the apple cart" thing. It reminded me of a roommate I had in college. I met him at orientation, and we hung out a few times. We ended up spending a year living in the same apartment, and he was a total disaster. He stole my money, would take my headphones, and take other stuff. Between the two of us, I had the car, and he would just randomly ask if we could go grocery shopping at 9 PM. I did it because I realized I was kinda scared of him. I realized halfway through the lease that I couldn't live with him after the lease expired. I'll never forget how one day, he slept through a job interview, and he asked if I would take him. I said no. I'd be lying if I said it was because I grew a pair, but I think because this happened close to when our lease expired that I knew I could suffer no consequences for it. Still, it felt so good to say 'no.' Thank you for teaching that.

    • @allypally2895
      @allypally2895 Месяц назад +9

      Also reminds me of Hot Fuzz where they bring the joke back:
      Nicholas - Look. I can assure you it wasn’t my intention to upset the apple cart.
      Andy - Yeah! Cus we all sell apples ‘round here, don’t we?.
      Danny - your dad sells apples Andy.
      Andy - And raspberries.

    • @Sandcat
      @Sandcat Месяц назад +10

      @@allypally2895 Everybody and their mum's is packin' 'round 'ere
      Like who?
      Farmers
      Who else?
      Farmers mums

    • @Scrofar
      @Scrofar Месяц назад +3

      Proud of you for standing up for yourself at the end! It may have taken a while, all journeys do, but I'm proud of you.

  • @SurinaSlackArt
    @SurinaSlackArt Месяц назад +63

    Not to detract from the discussion, but omg Alan's hair is GIVING today. Slay, buddy

    • @TheCassandraKing
      @TheCassandraKing Месяц назад +2

      I'm so glad you said it! Looking great I couldn't believe he wasn't plugging a new sponsor

    • @kevinlobos5519
      @kevinlobos5519 20 дней назад

      Gaaaaaay

    • @SurinaSlackArt
      @SurinaSlackArt 20 дней назад

      @@kevinlobos5519 lmaoooo

  • @anjelica948
    @anjelica948 Месяц назад +136

    As someone who had an extremely enmeshed relationship with a Narcissistic mother, I literally did have to run in order to escape her. I moved in with relatives, and it took a while, but I sorted my life out, more or less. I discovered a lot about myself, was finally able to be independent and grow, and….then my mother fell, broke both her hands/wrists, and nobody else was going to help her, bc she alienated everyone else with her behavior. But the almost five years I had away from her was enough so that when I came back to help her, I wasn’t so lost or consumed by the relationship. And trust me, we fought tooth and nail as I established boundaries, and as I learned how to show her love in a way she understands, so that she doesn’t lash out constantly bc of feeling neglected. So it IS possible to grow from an enmeshed relationship. But it is hard, its daily work, it does hurt A Lot of the time. But if both people are willing to work and meet halfway, then it is worth it.

    • @LamanKnight
      @LamanKnight Месяц назад +21

      While I don't want to share exact details, I just want to say thanks for sharing your story, because I am in the midst of something similar to that. I currently have the chance to move somewhere far from my "enmeshed ones," but I've been trying to find excuses not to do it; a big part of that has been the fear that if I leave now, then that may be the death of those relationships altogether. But it's encouraging to hear that with some time and healing --- and of course, a ton of sustained effort --- even relationships like these can heal. (I know that's not a guarantee that they WILL heal, but it's nice to be reminded that they CAN.)

    • @anjelica948
      @anjelica948 Месяц назад +4

      @@LamanKnight They definitely can. I never imagined in a MILLION years that my relationship with my mom would even start to become healthy. Let alone be in the place it is today. And like I said, its not easy, and it isn’t always good. But its miles and miles better than it was.

    • @nineteenfortyeight6762
      @nineteenfortyeight6762 Месяц назад +3

      I'm heartbroken because I failed to do this with my mother. It's hard. You've done a great thing. ❤

    • @AlleyCatUwU
      @AlleyCatUwU Месяц назад +1

      Never let someone put all of that work just on you, either. Relationships require work from all parties.

    • @anjelica948
      @anjelica948 Месяц назад +6

      @@AlleyCatUwU Oh trust me, I know. That’s what makes my situation so surprising to me, because I spent…25 or so years believing my mom would never change. Hours and hours and hours I cried because she was who she was and either I was going to have to go no-contact, or I would be enmeshed with her forever and never have my own life.
      And yet, as she has gotten older, and I’ve been able to have my own identity and become more confident in myself, I’ve been able to have better boundaries, and she has been mostly respecting them, which is something she NEVER used to do before. I think she finally understood that I’m really the last and only person she has. Years ago, not long after I first moved back to help her, we got into a fight and I remember telling her “Who did you call when you got hurt??? ME!!!! You didn’t call your parents, your brothers, your coworkers, you called ME!!!!!! And I came running! I left my job, my friends, my grandma, gave away most of my possessions, my car, I dropped EVERYTHING over the course of a weekend, no questions asked.”
      We still continued to fight after that conversation, but I do wonder if maybe that was the seed that sparked her to realize she had to learn to compromise and respect me as an actual individual person, because if she didn’t, she wouldn’t have anyone left in her life.
      It’s been a Very long road. And its a road we will have to continue walking for probably our entire lives. But any progress is great in my opinion.

  • @Det.Flynn9125
    @Det.Flynn9125 Месяц назад +79

    Cornetto Trilogy is one of the best movie trilogies ever
    Hot Fuzz is one of my favourite movies of all time

  • @ZombiebyProxy
    @ZombiebyProxy Месяц назад +25

    It's so, so hard when you have a relationship where things are like Shaun and Ed on the good days, while walking on eggshells to avoid some sort of explosive emotional reaction on bad days. Someone who cheers you on and is happy and supportive, until its something they dislike.

  • @darby2314
    @darby2314 Месяц назад +15

    Always remember, Shaun was the one leaving the front door open.

    • @darby2314
      @darby2314 Месяц назад +10

      For clarity, Shaun was happy to allow Ed to be blamed by Pete for something he knew was his fault. A big part of their relationship was Shaun hiding behind Ed as an excuse for the issues with his life.

  • @nerdynina3805
    @nerdynina3805 Месяц назад +13

    I'm a film student and we've studied this movie in multiple classes because it's literally perfect. I've written multiple papers about how and why everything in this movie works as well as all of the references and Easter eggs sprinkled throughout it

  • @amandasnider2644
    @amandasnider2644 Месяц назад +28

    I'm now realizing that the relationship between Sam and Dean Winchester from the Tv show Supernatural could definitely be considered as enmeshed to a degree...it has a LOT of toxic traits and codependency.
    I wish so badly they could do a video on Supernatural someday but i highly doubt itd ever happen given its 15 seasons.
    I wish they could also cover the tv show HANNIBAL and discuss the incredible complexities of Will and Hannibal's relationship...PS ALAN, this show is pure ART in every single aspect of it. The sound design, set design, spfx, vfx, food design, cinematography, editing, acting, action, soundtrack.....the only small complaint is that the exposure is a tad too low lol but its an esthetic choice

    • @skallywalla502
      @skallywalla502 Месяц назад +4

      Ooh, I'd LOVE Alan's take on the art of that show ! And Hannibal/Will's relationship: turning the "bad boy redeems himself out of love for the good one" trope on its head. Very enmeshed and toxic AF, and super romantic, but you can't look away it's soooo compelling.

  • @daltagnan230
    @daltagnan230 Месяц назад +39

    Shaun & Ed share some similarity between Wreck-It-Ralph & Vanellope in regards to Shaun/Ralph base their entire life on being the other's friend.

    • @MrLegendofLP
      @MrLegendofLP Месяц назад +10

      I mean… in the second movie that’s true. And it’s kind of super out of character. As is Vanellope’s behavior.

  • @fff415
    @fff415 Месяц назад +48

    I'm not going to lie I laughed way too hard at the Shaun of the Debt joke 🤣. Peak dad humour

  • @squidrose
    @squidrose Месяц назад +9

    When I was a kid I was traumatized by a zombie movie. This movie helped me get over that fear because this movie is just so well written and was worth “sorting myself out”
    I’m so glad you guys are covering it

  • @RhamanaChan
    @RhamanaChan Месяц назад +16

    I adore the Cornetto Trilogy so much, Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead are _easily_ two of my top films of all time.

  • @lillianwolfe8314
    @lillianwolfe8314 Месяц назад +23

    Another thing that does enmeshment really well: Elementary. (Yes, it's a series, not recommending that CT does a video on it...unless they want to, of course~). Without getting angry, Joan recognizes that it's so easy to become enmeshed in Sherlock's chaos, and they struggle to find a happy medium. But they work on it together so they're both happy and healthy, while still being close. An excellent modern family, if you will~

  • @annarichter484
    @annarichter484 Месяц назад +18

    Hot Fuzz is my favourite of the trilogy shortly followed by Shaun of the dead. Two of the best films ever made.

  • @mangantasy289
    @mangantasy289 Месяц назад +115

    I didn't know I would get a atke on Shaun of the dead today, but I clicked on that video as soon as I saw. Can only be great.
    Todally agree on that movie. It had no business of being as crazy good as it is. Loooooove it.
    And now for the video 😉

  • @genevarockeman9721
    @genevarockeman9721 Месяц назад +13

    My best friend and I often say "we're weird and codependent." -- "You say that like it's a bad thing." But we genuinely make each other better and encourage each other to be good partners and sisters and daughters. I wouldn't be who I am without her ❤

  • @DamonXWind
    @DamonXWind Месяц назад +13

    Innuendo Studios just put out a great video essay about the Cornetto Trilogy, it's chief assertion was that each movie subverts the trope of the hero growing up/moving past their character faults, instead changing the world so that he doesn't have to.
    Each movie has them begin to make strides but ends with the world changing so their original state better suits it, negating the progression of their character.

    • @roecocoa
      @roecocoa Месяц назад +6

      Came here to say the same thing. Shaun never needs to have that difficult boundary-setting conversation with his friend because now he is nonverbal, has no human rights, and cannot leave the shed.

  • @bluefleur57
    @bluefleur57 Месяц назад +12

    Needed a take like this on friendships. Speaking up with friends literally terrifies me, but I'm seeing how much of myself I denied over the years just to keep them happy.

  • @Red95897
    @Red95897 Месяц назад +44

    Am I the only one who wants them to do an episode on 500 Days of Summer?

    • @ashleighzoda738
      @ashleighzoda738 Месяц назад +1

      Omg that would be awesome!

    • @Kelarys
      @Kelarys Месяц назад +7

      It took me more than one viewing to realize I shouldn't be rooting for him just because he's the main character, and he had quite a few flaws that made him a... less than ideal boyfriend...so I would love to see them talk about it. Because on that first watch, maybe even the 2nd and 3rd, I was fully rooting for him

    • @18Hongo
      @18Hongo Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Kelarys I'm not the most insightful person, but even on my first watch I was thinking "wow should these two break up".
      He's projecting his desires onto her, and falling in love with an idea of her instead of the real person.
      She's giving off so many contradictory messages she should be banned from working in communications, and she clearly doesn't care that much about how the way she's treating him is going to hurt him.
      And neither of them seem willing to acknowledge that the other one wants a very different kind of relationship, despite the fact that they're both very clear about their expectations.

    • @Red95897
      @Red95897 Месяц назад +6

      @@KelarysIn my opinion,both of those characters have issues. Tom is a fool to have such ridiculously high expectations of her and letting his mood entirely depend on her is bad for himself for obvious reasons and it’s also unfair to her since his mood should not be her responsibility to deal with. He was also dumb for trying to desperately make something work despite all the obvious signs as to why that won’t happen. That being said,Summer isn’t innocent either. Despite all of Tom’s flaws,he actually didn’t pursue her in the first place when she said that she didn’t want a relationship,he left her alone. All of that changed until Summer decided to start randomly making out with him at work which obviously did nothing but start the illusion of something working out for him. Summer initiated the situationship with Tom just for her to be like “I don’t want anything serious”. In conclusion,I believe Tom was being foolish and desperate and Summer was being selfish and careless.

    • @CinemaTherapyShow
      @CinemaTherapyShow  Месяц назад +19

      It's in the works!

  • @moonwalker8391
    @moonwalker8391 Месяц назад +18

    Glad to see a cinema therapy video on shaun of the dead! I absolutely love this film, everything about it is spectacular,especially the writing. Not only is it gold in means of comedy, but the heartfelt stuff too

  • @petrastedman669
    @petrastedman669 Месяц назад +4

    Hands down favourite bit of Hot Fuzz trivia: Nick originally had a love interest when he goes to Sandford, but they thought it stretched the interactions too much (and bogged the movie down a bit) so they cut the character and gave most of her lines to Danny, in most cases without any changes.

  • @wearetheiam4720
    @wearetheiam4720 Месяц назад +21

    This video is a slice of fried gold. YA Booooooyyeeeeeeee❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
    Please do The World's End too!!!
    I literally screamed when I saw this upload because the Three Flavours Trilogy are my all time favourite movies.
    Jono and Alan, you guys rock!!!🎉

  • @gamingdisastercayla
    @gamingdisastercayla Месяц назад +10

    Never clicked on a cinema therapy video faster. One of my all time favorite movies, love Edgar Wrights work, absolute masterpieces of cinema ❤️❤️

  • @thediamonddragon1369
    @thediamonddragon1369 Месяц назад +14

    Its great how shaun of the Dead can make you both laugh and cry 😂😢, Pegg and Frost make this movie

  • @Zeithri
    @Zeithri Месяц назад +9

    Shaun of the Dead is my second favorite of the Cornetto Trilogy, my absolute favorite is Hot Fuzz. It's just so incredible.
    However; I don't think I agree with your interperation here, because at the end.... *Shaun and Liz lives in the same house, repeating the same patterns of life.*
    In fact, I dare to say that it might as well say that sometimes, people say they want a lot but in the end, they'll realize that what they had all along was just fine.
    PS. Spaced is amazing and I rewatch it often.
    You can watch it all on RUclips and you *should* .

  • @Agent57000DM
    @Agent57000DM Месяц назад +17

    “Okay……but dogs CAN look up!"

  • @bluelanternguardianangel8038
    @bluelanternguardianangel8038 Месяц назад +5

    This movie was my introduction to the concept of a *LITERAL* Chekov's gun. This movie is amazing

  • @zo-zu7158
    @zo-zu7158 Месяц назад +5

    I've never seen the movie and *I'M* crying at that last scene with Ed.

  • @macthemeh
    @macthemeh Месяц назад +7

    Shaun of the Dead is an amazing movie. No question.
    Hot Fuzz is one of my favorite films of all time and I really hope you guys do it next.

  • @wikemazowski6297
    @wikemazowski6297 Месяц назад +7

    I’m absolutely giddy to see what you guys have to say about hot fuzz. If Shaun is good at the set up and payoff, Hot Fuzz is the god gamn mona lisa of it. My favorite comedy movie of all time.

  • @jimmy-stevenbiemans1486
    @jimmy-stevenbiemans1486 Месяц назад +9

    1:11 I admire the passion Alan has for movies. He calls almost every movie ever made the best movie ever made. With a few exceptions (I am looking at you Tw*l*ght!). I wish I had so much passion for something 😂🥳🤸🏼‍♂️🤹🏼‍♂️

  • @Scrofar
    @Scrofar Месяц назад +2

    I cannot believe my Internet dads took a spear and shoved it into my soul. Jono talking about enmeshment-and this is my VERY first time learning of the term-described a significant handful of my relationships prior post-college. Long story short: eventually broke things off with an old childhood friend, and later separated myself from a couple other friends but mended my boundaries with them over time (thankfully, they understood and respected this!). I used to believe it was "right", "chivalrous", and "selfless" to put others before me, even if it meant putting myself down. And I had to learn there is nothing wrong or selfish with wanting to put myself forward, be it setting boundaries or saying "no" to plans or ideas, and that it is equally as important to voice what I need as well.
    And to the ex-friend who retorted at me for vocalizing how I felt that one time... go take a hike! A really long hike with no shoes or bug spray.

    • @roxanelvgsch
      @roxanelvgsch 7 дней назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @roxanelvgsch
      @roxanelvgsch 7 дней назад

      Your conclusion is incredible. I'll keep it!!!

  • @nimloc1670
    @nimloc1670 Месяц назад +3

    You guys should cover "The Book Of Life"! I think the way they handle family and friendships is common in a lot of other movies, but that's not at all a bad thing! Would be right up your alley I think, especially Manolo and his father.

  • @EricMHowardII-yh1rn
    @EricMHowardII-yh1rn 29 дней назад +1

    Working on common ground issues is a blessing when two or more people work well together in harmony. In connection to reviewing movies like Dead Poet Society. Starting Robin Williams.

  • @haeherfeder0221
    @haeherfeder0221 Месяц назад +11

    Please do the Heartstopper episode people have been asking for for so long 🙏
    Also I’d love your take on a Neil Gaiman creation, maybe one on Sandman and how Dream deals with humanity? Or Good omens?

  • @ThatOneAwkGuy
    @ThatOneAwkGuy Месяц назад +7

    I think Scott Pilgrim vs the World is a good movie to look at, it focused on confronting your past and also your significant other's past or something. Maybe even the netflix show, that one has Ramona confronting her past mistakes a lot

  • @Matt42MSG
    @Matt42MSG Месяц назад +2

    It's so nice to see you two covering content that isn't completely wholesome. For all the happy fuzzy heartwarming moments in this film, it's also touched with darkness, and it's good you guys acknowledge it; it gives the film that extra bit of reality.

  • @skyfire872
    @skyfire872 Месяц назад +2

    I haven't seen this movie for years, and hadn't looked at it like you have shown from your perspectives. I love your takes on it, super detailed from a film making pov with the writing and set ups. Also, thank you for showing that enmeshment and setting boundaries etc, comes in a large spectrum, its not black and white, and that going from avoidant or co dependent behaviors to autonomy and self actualization is a process. You explained that so well, and as someone who sometimes can relapse into those behaviors its a wonderful reminder. Really loved this video

  • @leahdouglas1793
    @leahdouglas1793 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you guys so much for making this!
    I've just started university and knowing what friends to hold onto and which to let go of has been tough. This helped alot

  • @williamphillipsthethird
    @williamphillipsthethird 29 дней назад +2

    Man, your guys chemistry is perfect in these videos. Keep em coming ❤

  • @harrietjones7737
    @harrietjones7737 Месяц назад +2

    These films are just British Humour at its finest. I quote them on the daily!

  • @heatherwind
    @heatherwind Месяц назад +1

    I am SO HAPPY you addressed Shaun of the Dead (and the Cornetto trilogy). I'm not into horror as a genre, but this one is my all time favorite films on so many levels. I related so hard to Shaun, and some days I still do even in my 50s.
    Incidentally, the DVD of the film has an AMAZING cast commentary version that I cannot recommend highly enough, as well as many deleted scenes and storyboards. Thank you so much for this episode, and brilliant advice as always!

  • @hineslink4
    @hineslink4 Месяц назад

    OMG! You're doing my favorite movie! First of all, thank you! Second, great job therapizing this relationship. I couldn't believe it when I saw this pop up in my feed. Years ago, when I was starting recovery from SUD, I would play this movie to distract me from the withdrawal symptoms. This movie is so well done, from the timing to the jokes and the timing of the jokes 😂 I was laughing so much it would help distract me from the worst parts of the process. The best!! I love you guys BTW. I'm so happy to have found your content. I recommend it to everyone.

  • @lukejanysek6369
    @lukejanysek6369 26 дней назад +1

    Super hyped for the Cornetto Trilogy covered! Can't wait for the World's End with a perfect mix of filmmaking and relationships/mental health!

  • @ondrejvasak1054
    @ondrejvasak1054 18 дней назад +3

    What I really like about the story is the fact that Shaun's plan pretty much fails horribly. The whole Winchester idea doesn't go well and most of the groups dies. But he did the best he could in terrible situation and that counts for something.

  • @michaelgreco1175
    @michaelgreco1175 25 дней назад

    You guys are amazing! I am so glad I've stepped upon your channel last year!

  • @Cheeseywater
    @Cheeseywater Месяц назад +2

    Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy could be really interesting. Characters need time react to loss of planet, one guy is literally splitting his personality and all in search of meaning in life. Would love to see your interpretation of their psychology! ❤

  • @lilith6314
    @lilith6314 Месяц назад

    Wow this episode explained a lot about what’s been happening in my life lately. Request for more episodes around friendships? Thank you Cinema Therapy ❤

  • @adhdumpsterfire
    @adhdumpsterfire Месяц назад +1

    LOVING THISS! Also, would LOVE it if you did two episodes on each season of Fleabag, it's SUCH a masterpiece and has so much to unpack in both of your fields!

  • @ange76prkr
    @ange76prkr Месяц назад +1

    This is my favourite film! I love the connection between Ed and Shaun in this and how you play it as well with the outro. Dylan Moran was so young in this oh joy. If you like Spaced I recommend Black Books. Just look at the chemistry and relationships this characters build too is amazing. Like I love how this was marketed as a zombie romance but it's more a zombie bromance haha

  • @joshuayarrington9684
    @joshuayarrington9684 Месяц назад +2

    Please do video essays on the following:
    -Dracula Untold
    -Thank you for your Service
    -The Covenant
    -Spider-Man: Across the Spider-verse
    -John Wick series
    -Pete Mitchell from Top Gun
    -Samantha Carpenter from Sream 5 & Sream 6.

  • @gunstarheroine5173
    @gunstarheroine5173 Месяц назад

    I love you guys so much I can't even describe. So thoughtful, insightful and delightful

  • @ALeXZVaMpYRoCkZ
    @ALeXZVaMpYRoCkZ Месяц назад

    I love this movie so much. In my country is not that well known so I never have the chance to have deep conversations about it, so thanks for such a lovely session Jono and thanks for crying with me Alan ❤ you are the best Internet dads ever. I hope to see ypur take on The World's End, Gary King is one of my favorite characters ever (one who I feel very much related to) and I'd love to see what you have to say about that movie. ✨️ Thank you guys sooo much!

  • @kory_misun
    @kory_misun Месяц назад

    I love how I *just* finished listening to all the amazing commentaries for this film, and now I get to watch you talk about my favorite live-action cast.
    Hot Fuzz is in my top five, everyone should watch that too. Even if you don't like buddy cop films, it's worth giving it a try.

  • @carriemiller4047
    @carriemiller4047 Месяц назад

    Thank you for another awesome vid. 😊 I like to believe that in some situations, you hold yourself back. It's a matter whether or not you make the hard choices and do what's best for you in the long run. There were times I thought my old group of friends held me back. I left. I realized it was me holding me back. It felt great to take those steps towards a fresh start. 🥰

  • @stitchfan08
    @stitchfan08 Месяц назад

    I love how the actors go well together with their characters and u can tell their good friends in real life

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion Месяц назад +1

    I have heard of Shaun of the Dead before but never watch it until this video came along. And now that I see it, I absolutely like it! And this is the first time I ever heard of enmeshment relationships but glad to know about it. More kowledge about friendship and healthy boundaries for me!

  • @rustygray5058
    @rustygray5058 Месяц назад +1

    I love how much you guys love this

  • @bombomos
    @bombomos Месяц назад

    That scene at the end between shaun and ed always brings me to the verge of tears. Cuz it reminds me of me and my best friend.

  • @oliviamackenzie9725
    @oliviamackenzie9725 Месяц назад +1

    You are right Ghost Town is a great song and not enough people appreciate it! Please do all of the Cornetto Trilogy!

  • @thevoiceman12
    @thevoiceman12 Месяц назад

    I want to thank you guys for Talking about this movie this is by far my favorite movie I’m glad you guys decided to talk about it I love your work continue doing what you guys are doing after all we all need therapy

  • @unaanguila
    @unaanguila Месяц назад

    Thanks for sharing the analysis of the movie and for the subs.

  • @fraserbain6102
    @fraserbain6102 Месяц назад +1

    Another insightful slice of fried gold!
    This might not mean very much, but it took me a long time to make proper friends and I couldn't understand what I was doing wrong.
    In school, I always wondered why I was made fun of every day, until I put my own flag up; started dressing the way I wanted, and simply expressed myself a little. Suddenly I was in a rock band with a tight group of good friends I could actually speak to, after being silent and kicked down for years. I found my tribe!
    And I'm delighted to say that, more than 20 years on, we still have that love and care for each other.
    Friendship is another family, it's beautiful and important.
    Anyway, sorry for the blog post! Thank you for another great video! 🙏

  • @Himesua
    @Himesua Месяц назад

    I adore this move SO much. When I don't feel well, I'll put this movie on. Having a bad day, Shaun of the Dead. There's so many good parts to this movie and call backs to the OG Dawn of the Dead. I really like all their movies, but this is a fav. Thanks for going over it. Much appreciation

  • @Artemis19925
    @Artemis19925 25 дней назад

    Hey guys, you're still absolutely killing it out here. Love your content and it has genuinely helped me in so many ways.
    Alan, its genuinely a blessing to watch you talk about what you love and see you learn and identify things from one episode to the next as your own understanding grows.
    Jonathan, you have taught me so much, genuinely I cannot express how often you've said EXACTLY what I needed to hear. Whether that be to heal, to learn or to grow and "accept influence". You have been there more times than I can remember. And with a lot of what you teach here about relationships? I've built one that will last me the rest of my life, because of skills I learned from listening to you.
    So to both of you, a deep and sincere thank you. Please keep doing what you're doing for as long as it makes you happy.

    • @CinemaTherapyShow
      @CinemaTherapyShow  25 дней назад +1

      Thank you for your kind message. Thanks for watching! 😊

  • @marianamora4203
    @marianamora4203 26 дней назад

    Hot Fuzz is literally one of my all time favorite films, Shaun is so good and classic and the lesson is so refreshing.❤

  • @alyssatheexcellent
    @alyssatheexcellent Месяц назад +1

    “I’m not laughing” while Simon Pegg is having a tearful goodbye makes my eyes leak every time.

  • @Its_Marcus
    @Its_Marcus Месяц назад +1

    5:10 When I see Alan with that hair, all I can think about is Dennis Quaid playing Jerry Lee Lewis in "Great Balls of Fire"

  • @tadesubaru1383
    @tadesubaru1383 Месяц назад +2

    Are you planning on covering the rest of the cornetto trilogy? I would love to! These two's relationship in all three movies are super interesting and complex

  • @jeanlove4186
    @jeanlove4186 Месяц назад

    I just love this movie. My mom loved acting so she wanted us to recreat the bar scene when they hit the bar tender. My family holds this movies close to our hearts, so to see them break this down is amazing to see. Pointing out things I haven't even noticed.

  • @stateofhibernation
    @stateofhibernation Месяц назад

    I cannot express how much i needed this right now. It's come up at just the right time. Thank you both as always for you vids and words of wisdom ❤

  • @jaredt.murphy8257
    @jaredt.murphy8257 Месяц назад +2

    This movie is so well written, I missed the entire point of it, getting lost in the zombie narrative and the main character's woes, not realizing that it's about his relationship with his friend affecting his now, and holding him back. It's really interesting to see that it's not that he doesn't love his friend any more, in fact their relationship is strong enough to survive the main character having different priorities

  • @Zillah82
    @Zillah82 Месяц назад +2

    One of my absolute favorites. Thank you.

  • @soundtravels4348
    @soundtravels4348 Месяц назад

    I am so freaken happy about this episode! Shaun of the Dead is one of my all-time favorite films ❤

  • @thegreatacolyt1277
    @thegreatacolyt1277 Месяц назад

    Great vid as always

  • @10ark
    @10ark Месяц назад

    Cornetto trilogy part 1. Thank you for finally getting to this one!!!

  • @GingerbreadWookiee
    @GingerbreadWookiee Месяц назад

    I really hope this means the other two are coming soon as well 😍😍

  • @thomaskositzki9424
    @thomaskositzki9424 Месяц назад

    One of your best videos about one of the best comedys out there! 😆

  • @Greenhairgabi
    @Greenhairgabi Месяц назад +2

    Could you guys do a video on Tenacious D- The Pick of Destiny? The friendship between KG and JB is epic! 😂

  • @gmanaz17
    @gmanaz17 17 дней назад

    I've been loving you guys and I have been searching for your take on the movie 50/50. Not sure where to request it but I hope you find this comment. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @SayAnise
    @SayAnise Месяц назад

    So happy you did this movie, one of my favs and filmed in my childhood neighbourhood - that's our old Londis!

  • @truecrosscosplay841
    @truecrosscosplay841 Месяц назад +1

    I've been in an enmeshed friendship and unfortunately, where Shaun and Ed were able to still maintain their friendship after the events of the movie, my friend and I didn't. She was not willing to respect my boundaries and she was in denial about the problems with our friendship. Now that we don't have a relationship anymore, I am now noticing the many instances where she held me back and where I enabled her to continue the problematic behaviors, and I am very glad that after going to therapy, I was able to have self-introspection and understand who I was and what I valued. Very funny that I'm watching this video after our recent "break up" lol
    Keep it up internet dads! ;)

  • @-N0V4-
    @-N0V4- Месяц назад +5

    You doing the whole Cornetto trilogy??? Cause I feel like those would be great in terms of analysing how to be and how not to be a good hero.
    Especially The World's End and how the protagonist actually never changes pr becomes better and just gets stuck in the past

    • @burdeegirl
      @burdeegirl Месяц назад

      The ending of that movie was hilarious. I loved it.

    • @richardwarnercool1
      @richardwarnercool1 Месяц назад +3

      I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with that. He's worked through his depression, he feels like he has a purpose and he's stopped drinking. I'd say that's changing for the better.