I built a scale model of my shop to make a $100,000 decision!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- In this video I make a scale model of my dream shop to study the plan to build a second floor! The build scale is 1/2” = 1 foot. The shop is 40’ x 72’
I used Titebond wood glue and Titebond CA glue with accelerator to move through the build.
Thank you Titebond:
www.titebond.com
The author does like to ruclips.net/user/postUgkxkNYRBJuiJ6EwD-tQSAlxg0eFKsnR2cgz from scratch, shaping and trimming wood from large blocks into fine finished products. As another reviewer mentioned, most projects require a lot of high-dollar equipment that most of us don’t have the room or budget for. But, knowing how to do these things, even if we won’t be able to practice the full stack project, is still great.
Could you do a 1/2 second floor? So it’s almost a loft. You’ll get one half of workshop that’s still open full height and the other part usable space.
I think that’s a great idea. Best of both. I would really miss the height if the upper floor was all the way across.
I came into the comments to say the exact same thing.
It already is partial coverage but I see what you mean. Adjust the ratio a bit. On the mezzanine he could do half closed in and half open loft over looking the floor. Give some useful office space for designing or taking a break.
Exactly what I thought. I can see where the extra height might be needed for some projects and you get that cavernous feel
I'd go one 6 foot bay shorter with the second floor.
I worked in commercial real estate back in 1989-1996 and although scale building and floor plan models were still popular, they were already being displaced by computer renderings. It's nice to see the old school way. I think it's easier for the mind to grasp.
Computer renderings are good, but VR is great for this sort of thing. Very popular with architects in the UK, it especially helps when you have a before and after in it.
As it stands, its the only use of VR i've enjoyed.
"old school way" .... proceeds to use a laser CNC.
Who's mind? Not everyone's mind.
@@adickurig were you offended by that expressed opinion, or did you just not realize that they did not intend to imply "everybody's mind"?
@@bermchasin I don't think you realize how much time it would take to make model wood straight by hand. I spent 6 days doing the wood planing work for a stepladder for my brother. Granted, I'm building one for myself too, but it still took 6 days to plane 28 parts.
I literally just 3D printed my house/shop in 1/64 scale so I could check sight lines, window placement and I can take a hot wheels car to visually see how much space a room has. Such a great tool to use before we spend $700,000+ on the build! We’ve found many changes to make on our “final” drawing.
My immediate thought was "Don't lose that amazing open space!" I was going to suggest leaving the center open and saw several others had the same idea. Good luck on your decision.
Brings me back to architecture school. A model always shows more than a plan or a section drawing could on its own. Great work, love the scale figures🤘🏼🤘🏼
Amazing to think that AR solves the tedium of having to build a model, but having the a physical representation is always cool.
Nearly 20 years ago, my wife and I were about to buy and build a kit home but before we did,
we went to our local netball court and drew the floor plans on one of the courts so we could
get an 'idea' of its size. 20 years later, we still happy with our Home 🥰
Like what you did here. Would have been a lot of wasted space had you not built another level
Amazing model, I'm sure that will have a prime spot in the finished barn.
Thst build was when I first learned of R&R. Subscribed to them after that.
Kyle is great. He does a lot of Instagram too, make sure you follow.
LOVE that you built a physical model. I can't imagine you doing it any other way to visualize the space. I hope your next step is to make floor layout options of Both levels and play around with different options…and I hope we get to see that process!
I think the stair COULD actually be a a really important part of your shop instead of just shoving it into a corner and only letting it be one thing.
It can be an organizing element central to the uses around it, provide storage, allow the light to bounce around deeper into the shop, provide air flow through the space and, it can create dynamic views. A stair can be a space to sit, relax, entertain, etc.
Structurally, a stair (and its supporting structure) may allow you to carry and distribute heavier loads across the shorter spans between the existing wall of the shop and the structure supporting the stair.
Also curious if there will be any kind of gantry-style or beam trolley lift system in the future and how that can/would effect the design and engineering of the shop.
Look forward to learning more about the desired and intended use up there (and the whole shop, really). Let the needs of the space determine the layout and don't forget that a stair can be more than just a way to get up and down!
I was always wondering if all that empty space would ever get used! Looking forward to seeing this come together
@ My Cancer Journey just keep at it. Thank you! And get well
That's gonna work great Jimmy. Douoble floor space!
Fun build. The second floor will definitely change the feel of the building.
Great model. You should build a scale model of your scale model to put inside.
I did a second floor for my 32X40 shop one of the best shoot from the hip I ever did,you won't be sorry,thanks for the model build its a wake up call for us mear mortals🤗😎🤗😎
This makes me want to buy a laser so I can just make scale models all day long! Great video and I'm sure what ever you decide the shop will look awesome!
IKR!!!
You can use an exacto knife on thinner material! Could work
we had a machine shed that size, had a loft, but we mainly stored lumber and farm equipment in it. that building is huge.
My dad made a very similar scale model of the timber frame home I grew up in just for the fun of it. One day I'll do the same when I own my own home.
I did this back in the 70's with my brother's cabin we built. A scale model of balsawood and superglue helped him decide how to layout the interior and loft he wanted. It was fun...
Once you get used to that beautiful space above you its hard to give it up. This obviously is the next move and a good one.
Love a good model, especially of a barn!
By the way, we always call the vibrating tool a multi tool. Bit of an exaggeration as you can’t do everything with it, but I have tried!
We=UK
That’s such a good idea! And using Dave’s scans for the figures was a great touch to see the scale on each level as well
I watch RR Buildings every week, Kyle and Greg are awsome ( from Illinois)
If it was me personally i’d do half a second floor. And use it like a loft which houses your more precious tools such as the printing presses and leather working machines. It would be a cosy place to do workshops and residency programs.
Lessons and theory upstairs. Dirty, noisy, loud work downstairs and outside.
Did the same thing about 20 years ago for my own shop(minus all the fancy tools available for the build) took a fair amout of time because i had just wood glue and a brad pusher,an exacto fine back saw still think about that old model once in awhile and contemplate rebuilding it now that i have much more accurate tooling at my disposal
That "vibrating tool" of yours, is an oscillating saw. However, they go by a few interchangeable names, as they can do more than just cut, depending on what accessory you're using.
Here in Norway, they're often called a Fein-saw, as Fein developed the first oscillating saw for cutting plaster casts in the 60's, and later making models for construction work.
It fits neatly into all the other brand names that have become the generic name for other tools; Skilsaw, Vicegrip, Sawzall... Fein-saw should slot just nicely in there :P
We call it a vibe-saw over Here in Canada. Because it's a vibrating saw lol
We call it a multi-tool, or multi for short.
From Norway too, I’ve only heard them referred to as multi-tools despite never seeing one that’s not made by Fein outside of a store.
They're called Fein cutters in Denmark although most people actually have other brands than Fein. Mine is a Dewalt and have other tool heads than saws as well. 🙂
That is so cool nice job👍🏻…..I like miniature buildings and tools 😮
Here is something that all of us fail to realize...no matter how much space you create, no matter how many tools to buy...it will never be enough!!! Good luck!
Seeing the 3D printed folks in there really helps to visualize the space. Having the open front keeps some of the open feeling and it should be great to have that extra space.
@jimmydiresta , this is insanely cool! You should issue a Miniature Challenge to other makers with these similar parameters and materials i.e. only glue, no nails, need to rip your own strips of wood, etc
You are a smart, thoughtful man - more men should aspire to be like you, As always nice job.
That floor is going to be a trampoline and will vibrate a lot. Structurally sound but from a comfort perspective, noticeable. it will also pickup low frequency sound and vibration from the wind against the exterior walls. It's an issue in older 5/1 style construction that uses those open truss engineered trusses. You will need to install a strongback according to code however that only reduces, wont eliminate the issue. I highly recommend having them spec in some 8x7 post and beams to help reduce the vibration issues. Because that is a massive amount of open floor space and some rather long spans with only those open trusses holding them up. (Again 100% structurally sound, however can be uncomfortable due to vibration.)
I remember watching John and Jimmy back in the day on Trash to Cash, very inspiring as kid to think outside of the box and tinker a little bit.
I would love to see this finished! Like a little scale model exact to your shop down to the tools placement all exact and scaled! Then put into a big glass shadow box on display
Look at it from the perspective of what the 2nd floor will actually need to do for you. Going to a 12 ft ceiling on 1st floor is going to really make you feel confined. It may cost more but adding dormers on one side of the roof may increase the usable 2nd floor space allowing you to shrink the overall 2nd floor Sq ft size. Put in an exterior staircase to save inside space
No i would not give up that beautiful cathedral head room ! love your work Jimmy
Titebond in my opinion is the best!! Good luck on the build.
This is really cool. This is the build that introduced me to @rrbuildings and I’ve been watching him and Greg build ever since. You were my first subscription on RUclips and I think Kyle was my 2nd
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Epic detail on the model. FYI in the uk we call the "vibrating tool" (pause to giggle) a multi-tool.
No Foam Core for Mr. D! Love it. Nicely done and love the scan/printed people to scale! Sending good Juice! Hat Tip, ~PJ
I couldn't imagine being this guy and having to make these tough decisions. Wish I could help to ease the mental and physical pain you must be feeling right now.
Amazing model, I will be waiting for the real thing soon. good luck.
That’s a sweet model!
So cool Jimmy Diresta. Awesome video today. Very nice and very helpful idea there. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Forge lit. Keep Making. God Bless.
Very cool barbie house, your daughter will eventually appreciate, if you have one!
wow big big ideas👍 build the 2nd floor🍀
Very cool. Why not make the second floor only half of the barn to preserve the high ceiling?
That is the nice advantage of the scale model. Getting a nice visual of "what if we did this". For some, like me, being able to see what it looks like not just on paper can help get a better perspective of what something will look like.
This man can’t stop making things and this in turn makes him happy. The scale model is surely unnecessary.
I miss brother John, Hammered was one of my favorite shows, wish it went on longer than 2 seasons, would you consider doing a RUclips video with John in the style of Hammered? I think it would be very well received. 🙏
One day thank you!
Thank you for sharing! ❤️ the passion.
With the second floor it would be like having a second shop all on one space. Love the idea
That's a great way to visualize it!
There's so much headspace you can almost make a crawlspace over the second floor for things like storing or water boxes
Only other thing I would install an Ι-beam down the middle so later you could use as a hoist setup.
Nice video!
This reminds me of my high school
Construction class. We built a scale model of the house we would eventually build. Fun stuff
Hey Jimmy. Cool model. Gives a great view of how the finished addition will look. I guess that would be your brother John, giving everyone the double finger! Perfect! Thanks for the video!
Awesome!!!😀
Great model. Love to see small-scale work alongside full-scale. Cheers to youse guys!
The continuous blocking in the truss’ are called Rat Runs. I love the model! Nice work
I've been working on a model building in HO scale (1:87) scale of an old coal shed that was in Fulton County NY called the "Coal Company of Fulton County", it was a 4 page magazine article in Model Railroader magazine in December 1979........the building is 65' x 334'.........I'm building an exact scale size model., This has been an on and off again project since 2006.
No doubt it will help with the needed room, but If you don't need all of it I would cut the second floor at the back the same distance as in the front, so the second floor has balconies on both ends. It will look kind of like an indoor bridge. You get the added floor space with lots of dramatic views from above and below. You would sacrifice some floor area in the middle for the stairs but the space would be amazing.
I was thinking the same thing. You’d have to engineer those side balconies but I think it would be pretty cool. Maybe not all that useful except for visual interest and maybe camera angles but i like the idea.
This is a nice option. Definitely creates dynamic views and allows the light to bounce around deeper into the shop but also leaves the space open to flexibility and expansion should the additional 2nd floor space really be needed. Also, a stair in the center does take away floor space, but again allows light and air flow through the space.
Structurally, a center stair (and its supporting structure) may allow you to carry and distribute heavier loads across the shorter spans between the existing wall of the shop and the structure supporting the stair.
Also curious if there will be any kind of gantry-style or beam trolley lift system in the future and how that can/would effect the design and engineering of the shop.
Look forward to learning more about the desired and intended use up there (and the whole shop, really). Let the needs of the space determine the layout and don't forget that a stair can be more than just a way to get up and down!
Great model and great way to see how things fit love your work
Raise the Roof!!! Or not.
Love your posts!
Cheers!
EPIC video and love the prints of Dave's scans! - John
I wish I had that laser cutter back when I was making models in architecture school. beautiful model. great job.
Looks like a good exercise for any maker and fun to watch!
See that's why I like your channel Jimmy, it's always been about the modeling brohim
Beautiful model and niec to watch the process
great decision to create that second floor early on. from a real estate perspective it’s an amazing investment. this building will exist for at least 200 years and a second floor gives it a lot more value and versatility.
Excited for you Jimmy!
Wow, I have been following Jimmy Diresta shows (trash to cash) for so long. I got into woodworking, CNC programming and welding because of these amazing projects. I just moved into a new house with a 450 sq ft shop with all the goodies including climate control and plumbing. It just occurred to me that I went from a saw and drill many years ago, to a full up workshop where I love to spend all of my spare time. Thank you Jimmy for enriching the lives of others with your brilliant mind and desire to teach.
Terrific stuff, Jimbo! 👍🏻
Great video. Model really shows how it'll be irl. Lots of head space. Mahalo for sharing!
you could leave a bay in the middle of the upper floor as well for tall space to use ... and even have a hoist setup to haul heavy stuff up and down int the space or to the second floor ... there is always something that needs a hist instead of 12 people to move
I’m not sure why this ended up in my RUclips stream but I’m glad it did - amazing
Thank you!
A miniature video camera mounted on a small stand at a scale eye height will let you do walk-throughs. The give an amazingly accurate feeling for the finished space.
Thanks. I love scratch built scale models. Give us a shout if you ever come to Sea Cliff.
It's great idea to make independent second work/storage space. Just do it!
The idea of additional space above is appealing, and the model is excellent, but am I the only one to comment that Jimmy posted this today, on this particular date? Great work Jimmy, Ha ha.
I would run string from one wall to the other in a bunch of spots like a net kinda to just hold the place of where the second floor would be in the shop and have that there for like a month while you're working so you can see how often the string, or second floor would get in your way.
Good job Jimmy Diresta well done
Man, I was stoked to have my 320sq ft shop Dream shop finished. Nine of my shops would fit inside your building.
That’s crazy perspective 😂. Excellent work, beautiful space, with or without the second floor.
Great work as always
I'd put a hoist or elevator in that to transport stock from floor to floor. if you go for a hoist, make a railing with a horse shoe bit in the middle. then a sliding gate to keep everyone safe.
Well done. I'd miss the cathedral ceiling.
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I feel like I'm wasting my life when I see how talented other guys are.
I remember back in the day the barn was built to accomodate a second floor, thats why the windows are ona second row way up high
Wow... Fantastic work, Jimmy! It really looks amazing! 😃
Really well done!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Very cool to watch. Seems very helpful and worth it in deciding a big addition. Thanks
brilliant and inspiring! thank you.
Excellent model making!
Thanks Jimmy...that was enjoyable! 😊
Super cool that you built that just to get the visual
I really have a love for architectural models , so thank you very much for doing one !!! Also , I can't help but think that something similar was done , when planning the great Pyramid , so many thousands of years ago !!!
I imagine the aliens have some killer Lego sets too
They used SketchUp. Much faster.
13' foot is pretty "cathedral" to me! You'll have so much more space and still have high ceilings! Truly a drea, shop! go for it, Jimmy!
In high school woodworking class I built a scale model of a bungalow similar to this as a class project. (1987 - 1988)
The vibrating tools is marketed as a Multi Tool.
That is what the box says😂
No, osculating tool
@@janeblogs324 I call mine "The Oscilator" in a deep voice.
What a great scale garage!
We in scale world would call that 1:12 scale.
I bet RC Everyday would love that garage! I sure do but I'm on the other side of the big pond.
You would have sold similar one in 1:10 scale as a assembly kit, like hot cakes!!
1:10 is most used by us rc guys, and crawler guys in 1:8 scale as most crawlers is in that size compared to real life.
Anyway, great garage, both in real world and scale one!
they are super easy to sharpen, the oscillating tool blades... Ive found the angle grinder works best, or a hand file... thanks for sharing!
This is awesome but I have to say, you are the king of overkill haha. This isn't a bad thing!