I Tried To Burn Down My Shop || This Video Will Save Yours

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  • @Iceh4wkvideos
    @Iceh4wkvideos Год назад +1187

    Theres a very clear line in the comments from before and after AVE made his video

  • @matthewbuza87
    @matthewbuza87 Год назад +1323

    ave brings up some good points about this video

  • @tommiestrydom973
    @tommiestrydom973 Год назад +25

    Firefighter here. Powder Fire extinguishers are great for putting out a fire by smothering it. They do not stop the chemical reaction not do they cool down the source of the fire. So if the heat is still there and oxygen gets back in then fire will re ignite. Great video. When I use linseed oil I have a bucket of water and dump my oily rags in there. Then when done throw the wet rags away.

  • @Stevefolmz
    @Stevefolmz Год назад +842

    AVE sends his regards.

  • @daydreamingartist80
    @daydreamingartist80 Год назад +735

    Isn't it shocking that in all the time wood workers have been on RUclips, you're probably the first person to run a test like this. This was a BADLY NEEDED video.
    Respect, my friend✌️

    • @Goalsplus
      @Goalsplus Год назад +27

      I have seen others including one who wanted to prove it was false and did so by not testing properly.

    • @BillHartCooks.
      @BillHartCooks. Год назад +21

      James Wright did a simpler test a couple years ago and got it to burn. This is the most scientific of the RUclips tests I have seen however.

    • @nathana7164
      @nathana7164 Год назад +15

      @@BillHartCooks. It really is a well set up design....maybe safer if someone had been there helping.

    • @JediOfTheRepublic
      @JediOfTheRepublic Год назад

      Because everyone knows what happens to linseed soaked rags.

    • @Gottesacker86
      @Gottesacker86 Год назад +15

      ​@@JediOfTheRepublic Not everyone knows that. A girl that works with my wife burned her family's house down not knowing that you had to let the rags dry out.

  • @BlackWolf42-
    @BlackWolf42- Год назад +487

    Please upload the complete unedited video of the 1st ignition. If it's 7 hours+ I'd be ok with that.

  • @nijosmudja8362
    @nijosmudja8362 Год назад +310

    Oily rags and polyethalene containers and no smoke? Hmmm. Smells fishy

  • @NautilusGuitars
    @NautilusGuitars Год назад +24

    Since I haven't seen anybody else mention this, the fire extinguisher you used should be replaced immediately. Once they're used for the first time, they will slowly lose pressure and become useless.
    I learned this the hard way while casting bronze. Crucible broke and spilled molten bronze on the ground. It ignited a nearby piece of plywood and the main extinguisher I had was completely dead, even though I only used it briefly before.
    Luckily, this was outdoor in a wide open yard, so it wasn't a major problem. But it could have been under different circumstances.

  • @jasonkarels6202
    @jasonkarels6202 Год назад +600

    I teach woodworking at the high-school level, and this is definitely getting shown to my classes!

    • @andrewpinson1268
      @andrewpinson1268 Год назад +16

      Please find a good correct fire fighting video of using fire extinguishers around any type of fire and double what you think you need in extinguishers. Fire alarm system and lighted exit signs. I am sure you have already thought of what you need to teach students. Good that you are being proactive.

    • @mandimusic5109
      @mandimusic5109 Год назад +7

      Was just thinking this should be required viewing in every woodworking and carpentry course.

    • @dianeewoldt3035
      @dianeewoldt3035 Год назад +9

      Our community college wood shop has a huge central vac dust collection system that deposits the dust and small scraps in an outside enclosed bin. It caught fire due to spontaneous combustion. The post event analysis was that it occurred due to wood pitch and high ambient temperature. The shop teachers have always taught students to dry finishing rags outside and dispose of them in the outside sealed metal can.

    • @ryangross5446
      @ryangross5446 Год назад +1

      perfect length for a class as well. this would be a great video to show

    • @daedaluscreation4869
      @daedaluscreation4869 Год назад +12

      Please explain to your class the flaws in this video as well. I was a chemistry teacher and safety is an discussion topic before anything else, as you well know. Lids should have been present to extinguish the cans as well as an extinguisher prepared and ready Outside as well. 😉
      I wish my high school had had a shop class. And the lack of a respirator is alarming. Dry chemical extinguisher and plastic smoke 😖

  • @dianahenderson
    @dianahenderson Год назад +17

    I am glad to see you address this...even more grateful you took it so seriously...my shop is in my basement so I am close to paranoid about oily rags. Thank you for pointing out how easily fire can start...and how unpredictable they can be.

  • @redc2367
    @redc2367 Год назад +179

    This video may get an unforeseen level of interest and engagement.

  • @lavalbutte
    @lavalbutte Год назад +218

    So your friend keeps his camera time stamp and wall clock set at the same exact wrong time?! Weird..

  • @lucasMcarter89
    @lucasMcarter89 Год назад +305

    This is hands down the most important woodworking video to hit RUclips. I know we’ve all heard the stories, but seeing this cemented the importance of proper disposal. Incredible.

    • @rudyschwab7709
      @rudyschwab7709 Год назад +7

      Before watching, I called B.S. on this. I always just assumed a cigarette butt or some other ignition source carelessly placed in with the rags was the cause.

    • @kz.irudimen
      @kz.irudimen Год назад +5

      @@rudyschwab7709 When firefighters tell you something starts fires, you should listen to them and not assume things.

    • @lastdaysofhumanity4114
      @lastdaysofhumanity4114 Год назад

      @@MAGAMAN The most faked video on youtube was The Jan 6th riot my chief and the election of Trump.

    • @DeminicusSCA
      @DeminicusSCA Год назад +13

      It's fake

  • @bobh64
    @bobh64 Год назад +12

    Great video this week. Working at a W.C store I always warn people who don't understand oil finishes about this danger. Now I have a good resource to have them watch.

  • @davidpritchett855
    @davidpritchett855 Год назад +31

    2 things in addition be careful of batteries and be careful of electrical cords.
    Regrettably my brother in laws woodshop recently burnt down and the fire Marshall worked with him to determine the cause and it was most likely a table saw cord that had been pinched when he pushed it up against the wall after using it. The saw had not been in use for 2-3 weeks but since it was plugged in it had some kind of flow. Also make sure you have a good fire rider on your home insurance and do yourself the favor of making a list of everything you would want to claim ahead of time if you were in this situation. Finally do not store gasoline, kerosene, diesel or other fuel inside structures you care about because in most cases storing fuel inside will actually nullify your fire insurance.
    So a tip from the rc plane community that deals with tons of lithium batteries. Make yourself a battery coffin out of cement board , put your chargers and batteries in the coffin and set it up on a wire rack shelf with a few tubes of sand above so that if a fire starts the heat will melt the plastic and the Sand will stream down dousing the fire. Do not use water on a battery fire they NEED to be doused using a fire extinguisher, fire blanket or similar.

  • @ayolatab5192
    @ayolatab5192 Год назад +165

    “Video was taken just after midnight” time stamp shows 10:40, clock on the wall upper right corner shows 10:39… 🤔

  • @jimrosson6702
    @jimrosson6702 Год назад +6

    Jason , Thank you so much for making this video have heard of this but did not realize it could happen this easily. Thank you for the time and effort you put into this setting up this experiment and the time you spent watching it to show how much time it takes but how fast it happens. I truly believe you have saved someone’s shop and someone’s life with this video.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 love watching your channel and the amazing work you do can’t wait to see what you do next

  • @cozmo1266
    @cozmo1266 Год назад +6

    I’ve always been told since a kid to not keep mineral spirits soaked rags together. Never thought too much about any other oil based stuff. But everyone in my family will have to sit down in a quiet place and watch this video. Your a hero in my book!!!

  • @nicksoffski
    @nicksoffski Год назад +26

    Thank you bringing this to all your viewers attention! I regularly just dump cloth rags with oil on them in a bin which sits in my garage which is under my house which my wife, daughter and I sleep in!
    I’m going to have to change my work practices!

  • @sokar47
    @sokar47 Год назад +4

    As a Chief Engineer on big yacht, we are instructed to keep oily rags separate from other rubbish, and in metal containers with sealed lid. I like also to do some woodworking while at home and my rubbish bin are always outside and in metal. Keeping a good fire extinguisher in the area is also a good idea. Keep in mind that others materials mixed can heat up and potentially start a fire. e.g. chlorine and whitened paper or mixed two components resins.

  • @brendanlangord1687
    @brendanlangord1687 Год назад +90

    Thank you so much for this video. I am a hobby tool restorer/woodworker and generate a small amount of oily rags doing various projects in my basement. I hate to admit it, but I have been careless with disposal of oily rags. This video shown me just how lucky I have been, not to have had a fire yet. It really opened my eyes to how careless I have been. I will definitely be changing my ways. Thank you again for possibly saving my home, and the lives of my family.

  • @debschreiner3600
    @debschreiner3600 Год назад +83

    Thank you for producing this video! I remember my dad, a chemist for a global paint company, was sooo obsessed with keeping a clean shop and disposing of things properly that, as kids, we didn't understand the meticulousness he exhibited---now, so many years later thanks to you, I understand. Thank you for opening so many eyes to the danger that is spontaneous combustion. Please share this on all social platforms!

  • @roberthaack8427
    @roberthaack8427 Год назад +1

    Excellent demonstration. Thank you.

  • @VANILLAGORILLA54
    @VANILLAGORILLA54 Год назад +74

    So you're saying that none of those fires melted plastic.....but spontaneously burst.....

  • @dhall3401
    @dhall3401 Год назад +20

    Thank you so much for this. I’ve heard this could happen but honestly disregarded it until now. As a hobbyist woodworker who primarily works out of my home I’m horrified to think that I could have burned down my home and even worse hurt my love ones. Definitely a great reminder to stay vigilant about safety in the shop not only to protect your digits but life and property as well!

    • @Ritalie
      @Ritalie Год назад

      If you think about it, why is boiled linseed oil and similar products even for sale to the general public? I'm not sure if you can buy a big jug of nitric acid or some other explosive chemicals at the hardware store? The fact that just applying the product to a cloth, causes spontaneous combustion, should make the product require a full background check and proof of training in order to buy it. In my mind, surely the chemists in 2023 can create a product that does all the same things, without the risk of a fire? I can't believe that with all our modern technology, that "boiled linseed oil" which was invented 200 years ago, is somehow the best we have? This is a case where we need the government to help the people, to help fund a solution.

  • @SIE44TAR
    @SIE44TAR Год назад +29

    Thank you so much for this. I’m 60 years old but new to woodworking and I’ve never heard of this. I’ve been through a fire before when my workshop from a prior screen printing business burned down due to a faulty box fan I regularly left running overnight to dry screens. It hit hard financially but I survived it, barely. I can assure you I no longer leave fans running when I’m not around and now I’ll make sure I don’t leave wet rags in the trash!
    Also, thumbs up for Seinfeld, my go to when I have 30 minutes to kill.

  • @djcishere
    @djcishere Год назад +1

    I use to clean cooking friers for a living using blue commercial cleaning rags. The poor washing machine could never get all of the vegetable oils etc out of the cleaning rags. I had it happen to me twice, where if I put the rags into a bucket to early before the rags had fully dried, they caught on fire. Even though they were cold before going into the bucket. Be careful out there guys! Love this channel, keep up the awesome work!

  • @mitchellcamps7595
    @mitchellcamps7595 Год назад

    Amazing test! Thank you for the in-depth video.

  • @Anthony-H
    @Anthony-H Год назад +4

    A much needed video - I can't believe no one else has posted something like this before. I always soak my used rags with water and toss them into my fire pit in the back yard. Once they dry out, I burn them intentionally after a couple of days. Definitely lets me sleep easier at night.

  • @hupka3145
    @hupka3145 Год назад +180

    We're going to make this video required viewing for all new employees in our shop. Really nicely done. Thank you for putting the time and effort into keeping all of our shops a little bit safer.

    • @leeroyholloway4277
      @leeroyholloway4277 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/PybuHB9gc_U/видео.html

    • @dluke20
      @dluke20 Год назад +31

      Hopefully, nobody points out it's fake

    • @nathancarlson674
      @nathancarlson674 Год назад +24

      ​@@dluke20 no it's to see who's knowledgeable enough to spot that it's a fake!

    • @lastdaysofhumanity4114
      @lastdaysofhumanity4114 Год назад

      @@MAGAMAN Look at your WORDS LMAO and youre voting for one of history's most vicious criminals that lies with every word! The entire country is founded on lies. But maybe that is why you love Trump. Because you know most are being lied to by him and all the other puppets creating "two separate" political parties of their own buddies.

  • @tazmon122
    @tazmon122 Год назад +6

    the most common mixture taught in art schools as an oil thinner to replace the good ole turp is a mix of linseed oil and galkyd (or galkyd lite)....all the studios are outfitted with oxygen trapping and self closing metal bins for rags (like the red bin used in the experiment). one of my professors told me to always use at least a galvanized metal bin for rags because he used to keep his oil rags loosely under the sink but they spontaneously combusted once (thankfully his family was out of the house, and the neighbors called the fire dept pretty quick so his home wasn't totally destroyed) but hasn't had a problem with galvanized metal. never even thought to use a plastic bin....ya know...cuz plastic melts easily in heat (RIP your driveway). maybe a bit of a part 2 would be cool testing different material consumer bins and their lids. the big thing about fire is oxygen...so with or without lids can play a pretty big factor.

  • @BenjamintheTortoise
    @BenjamintheTortoise Год назад

    Wowww. Serious reality check. Many thanks and much love 💕

  • @chrisoliver9204
    @chrisoliver9204 Год назад +126

    Jason, thank you so much for creating this video. I have to admit, you scared me so much that I literally got up off my recliner at 10:22pm, walked out to my shop barn - where I haven’t done any woodworking for at least a month - and rolled my trash can (which was half filled with wood scraps, old small engine parts, cardboard, etc) outside. Then I filled it with water.

    • @thaddeustroyer
      @thaddeustroyer Год назад +5

      😂 good for you. Safety 1st... not second

    • @cassidykaiser5817
      @cassidykaiser5817 Год назад

      😂

    • @ChairLunchDinner625
      @ChairLunchDinner625 Год назад

      Dousing rags with water or soaking them only delays the potential for combustion. When the water evaporates the oil will still be there and restart its own drying process. If you throw them out wet, then you're just passing the risk on to someone else (who likely has no expectation of being on alert for fire).
      I would imagine waste disposal companies have some sort of contingencies in place for this, but it would still be best to avoid the problem at all.
      The rags need to be laid out on the floor to dry before being disposed of.

  • @ZDay1296
    @ZDay1296 Год назад +5

    I’ve always loved your videos but you have brought awareness to something few others are talking about. Thank you for keeping our community safe and keeping it entertaining as always.

  • @andybosch7857
    @andybosch7857 Год назад +45

    This looks like a similar process to Hooibroei we have in Dutch. It is hard to translate, but it is the phenomenon of hay spontaneously combusting. In the case of hay, this is caused by micro-organisms fermenting the hay, causing a self-sustaining reaction that heats up the hay and produces flamable gasses that can combust as early as 80°C.

  • @andygienapp3253
    @andygienapp3253 Год назад

    Good stuff. Thanks for doing this. Def will be paying more attention now!

  • @littlefiddlesticks
    @littlefiddlesticks Год назад +12

    Wow! I didn’t realize this could happen! Thanks for doing this! You’ve probably saved multiple peoples shops and houses by demonstrating this risk!

  • @geraldbullardjr
    @geraldbullardjr Год назад +4

    JUST AWESOME!!! TY for taking the time for this experiment and video! I have worked with wood my whole life (only as a hobbyist) but plan to get more into it soon and this is a complete eye-opener on a very serious scenario we could all so easily overlook :) Hats off my man and GREAT JOB!

  • @7r1bute
    @7r1bute Год назад +5

    Great video, thanks a lot!
    Use foam or water fireextinguishers whenever its possible. Powder will likely damage all electric tools in your shop and leave a big mess. Foam will work too on burning rags, with whatever they are soaked. And it is likely that you can't breathe because of the powder and have to stop fighting the fire. Imagine using this in a smaller kitchen or livingroom.

  • @scratchinjack608
    @scratchinjack608 Год назад +1

    I'm not a wood worker and would never work with linseed oils having had worked in a hardware store decades ago and naturally know of linseed oil instability. Rationale tells me a mostly enclosed but not sealed container which will help retain heat but allow "breathing", thus escalating it, and the inclusion of materials that can be thought of as kindling, is the big take way from this. I enjoyed the video. Thanks!

  • @stephendufresne9239
    @stephendufresne9239 Год назад +117

    This is another reason I can tell the wife that I need to build a separate building just for finishing. 😁👍

    • @dougsaunders8109
      @dougsaunders8109 Год назад +6

      Video evidence now 😅

    • @Iron_glove
      @Iron_glove Год назад +9

      Dunno if it's a good thing to show her xD she'll maybe think it's a good reason NOT to build something new that could catch fire :D

  • @tringsby
    @tringsby Год назад +3

    Thank you so much for doing this!! As others pointed out this is probably one of the most important youtube woodworking videos out there. I am in shock of the results you got!!

  • @gregorymacneil2836
    @gregorymacneil2836 Год назад +1

    Thank you for an excellent video.
    I was taught to never leave any rag with any substance on it in the shop! I always put them outside in a bucket of water and then hang them on the line to dry in the morning before disposal.

  • @Healthy_Horseman
    @Healthy_Horseman Год назад +48

    Oily rags are an issue so you should keep them in a proper metal bin with a tight lid but I call BS on this video. I've seen spontaneous combustion before in person, it starts smoking long before actual flames are visible.

  • @sapelesteve
    @sapelesteve Год назад +7

    Now that was over the top incredible Jason! I was really skeptical that any of those would catch on fire. Boy was I wrong! Thanks for the wake up call! Hopefully this will help to prevent anyone from causing a fire in their workshop, or anywhere else for that matter! 👍👍👏👏💥💥

  • @oregonduffer8131
    @oregonduffer8131 Год назад +124

    What an incredible service, Jason, particularly for hobbyist woodworkers like me who don't think big things can happen in my little garage shop. I've always been careful with oily rags but this tells me to be better. You have likely saved someone from a huge heartbreak or worse. Thank you.

  • @marcfesel
    @marcfesel Год назад

    Thanks for doing this and taking your time

  • @harveyraab2563
    @harveyraab2563 Год назад

    Back in the 80s my family had a restaurant and in the kitchen storage area we keeper a rag bag for used kitchen rags. One thing you use in the business is rags , you use them for everything including cleaning oil around fryers and grills. I came into the kitchen one morning and smelled what I thought was wire so I have an electrician come and check all wiring with no findings. Fast forward two more dsy still finding nothing until there was a very lite smoke that appeared in storage aera , with that I upped the rag bag out onto floor and at the bottom was a rags just smoldering. It's a weird feeling knowing that at anytime your whole life can change because of a little overlooked mistake. Thanks for that info , I hope alot of people took it to heart and learned something from it. 🙂✌️

  • @JustOneRedSoloCup
    @JustOneRedSoloCup Год назад +57

    I’m… stunned. I’ve been throwing away oil-soaked rags into a common metal trash bin in my shop for the past 25+ years, and I can only recall one time some years ago when I noticed the trash bin lid was warm as if it had been sitting out in the sun - only it was early in the morning and it’s never stored outdoors.
    I’m now wondering if there were other times this had occurred and I simply didn’t notice it. How I inexplicably escaped from burning down the place is beyond me. It’s a terrifying thought and you’ve got my full attention. Holy cow.

    • @brianlawrence9959
      @brianlawrence9959 Год назад +11

      Keeping the lid on helped. If anything was to catch on fire it would go out immediately from lack of oxygen.

    • @JustOneRedSoloCup
      @JustOneRedSoloCup Год назад +2

      @@brianlawrence9959 I think you’re right - the lid on that particular trash can has a deep side skirt to it where you have to push down on it with both hands to close it up. I’ve had that trash bin for over twenty years, but I’m certainly changing up my careless practice of what gets tossed into there from now on.

    • @daveb8598
      @daveb8598 Год назад +2

      @@JustOneRedSoloCup Glad you are changing up your practices! It could also be that it uses up the oxygen in that can for the most part before it can combust, the curing of BLO is oxidation, I just don't know how much it needs. In Jason's experiment only the open containers caught.

  • @MakeEverything
    @MakeEverything Год назад +3

    Great video, I’ve always heard the stories of the rag fire but to see how fast it can happen was eye opening!

  • @brianmgs2006
    @brianmgs2006 Год назад +1

    You have and will save lives with his video, fantastic work!

  • @mikeamormino6638
    @mikeamormino6638 Год назад

    Wow, thank you for the heads-up.

  • @kjm1258
    @kjm1258 Год назад +31

    As a firefighter for 50 years I have ran on calls for this very reason. Great job for teaching others, thanks. One question; where is your smoke detector !

    • @AA-zv6yo
      @AA-zv6yo Год назад +9

      Where was the smoke😮

  • @mindblown650
    @mindblown650 Год назад +6

    Awesome job on the experiment! I've always taken some precautions cause I work in an attached garage but I didn't think it would be that easy to have a fire start. Will definitely be more careful now. I'm sure you've just saved a few workshops by creating this content, possibly even a few lives, very well done. 👍

  • @RatelLaw
    @RatelLaw Год назад

    Thank you for sharing your expertise

  • @discerningx3375
    @discerningx3375 Год назад

    I have always followed good rag management but this is a wake up call and reminder!!

  • @FunkyNutbar1982
    @FunkyNutbar1982 Год назад +21

    Great video. I was taught this years ago and have always laid the rags out to dry, but I always thought it was a really really low chance of actually happening. This just shows how easy it can happen. I will be extra vigilant from now on!

  • @lusterrenovations1570
    @lusterrenovations1570 Год назад +8

    For fun we put our oil rags in our outside burn barrel and see how long it takes to combust. Never leave rags in a shop

  • @rockburst
    @rockburst Год назад

    Thanks for this. Great eye opener and lesson for us all

  • @priayief
    @priayief Год назад

    Valuable information! Thanks.

  • @uniquenautique2
    @uniquenautique2 Год назад +3

    Wow! Really great test! As a new woodworker this isn't something I really even thought about. I will be much more diligent about letting rags and such dry out before throwing out. Thank you for doing this test and video.

  • @lighthousewoodworks
    @lighthousewoodworks Год назад +327

    Crazy stuff man, ya I can't believe that my entire shop didn't burn down, no one was supposed to be there.... angels were watching. But everyone needs to see this video because otherwise they'll see the fire eventually in their own shop and might not come out as lucky as me!

    • @nashira25
      @nashira25 Год назад +2

    • @PerrynBecky
      @PerrynBecky Год назад +5

      So glad that it didn't go a lot worse. God certainly sent His angels indeed. I'll bet you'll be a lot more careful in the future. This is quite sobering for me too.

    • @lighthousewoodworks
      @lighthousewoodworks Год назад +4

      ​@Perry Bailey oh big time. We've been always safe about it.. but there's always that new guy who doesn't take it serious..

    • @WoodsmanSkills
      @WoodsmanSkills Год назад +4

      Wow your lucky someone stopped by, this video really opened my eyes to the danger. This video is the most valuable video you may of just saved mine because I've never really taken it seriously. I think you have saved multiple shops from your experience. God bless sir

    • @lighthousewoodworks
      @lighthousewoodworks Год назад +2

      ​@Robert Messer ya awareness on this subject is definitely important. Jason can bring that better than I

  • @chefadammenard
    @chefadammenard Год назад +80

    Waiting for the comments from everyone who just watched AVE's video 🍿

  • @joedime1
    @joedime1 Год назад

    I had an oily rag fire in an apartment in a 4-unit building I was remodeling. Luckily a tenant smelled the smoke and kicked through the door and extinguished it and called 911 because I was out of town when it ignited. Just ended up with smoke damage. It was from staining a floor with an oil based stain, I believe it was a minwax stain, not sure what oils it's made with. Thanks for taking the time to do this test!

  • @jamesshenfield1107
    @jamesshenfield1107 Год назад +14

    I just drove into my workshop on a Sunday to make sure that the rags my wife had used on a cutting board had been disposed of properly like Ive been saying for years. They were in my plastic bin behind my desk. Never seen a video like this before and it brings it back to the front if mind. Good job mate. Hope this goes viral.

  • @liegelr
    @liegelr Год назад +3

    This is an awesome experiment. I've always heard stories about spontaneous combustion but have never seen any controlled testing to show it happening. As a user of both BLO and Rubio Monocoat it's valuable to know. Also glad that the rags just laying on the floor didn't combust as I usually just spread mine out in an open spot on a concrete floor (or put in a bucket of water if there are a lot).

  • @ArmySoldier1972
    @ArmySoldier1972 Год назад

    I greatly appreciate videos like this.
    As a noob I would never have thought it.
    Thank you
    Army
    SE Oregon

  • @felixschelhasse
    @felixschelhasse Год назад

    Thanks for the video!! 👍

  • @acarlin74
    @acarlin74 Год назад +4

    Thank you Jason on behalf of my little shop, 360 Grace Woodworks! I generally lay my rags out on the ground but this means I'm just going to be even more vigilant in my safety because of all the sawdust that I carelessly leave on the ground too!

  • @richardmackenzie9551
    @richardmackenzie9551 Год назад +39

    What a great video.
    Its common knowledge that this COULD happen, but I did not think you would get that many to ignite.
    More people need to see this. This is a life saver for sure.

    • @LykeArgy
      @LykeArgy Год назад

      never heard about it myself

    • @briansboucher
      @briansboucher Год назад +1

      @@LykeArgy not common knowledge mate

    • @luns486
      @luns486 Год назад +12

      @@briansboucherit’s common knowledge for anyone that bothers to read the label.

    • @cray-
      @cray- Год назад +1

      Common knowledge is not so common. I had no idea about this. Regarding reading labels: in this day and age we often skip the labels and go straight to RUclips for practical demonstrations. In one sense we are more educated, but in another we might be left with gaps in that knowledge. Eye opening stuff for sure.

  • @durban2deli624
    @durban2deli624 Год назад

    Wow! I had no idea until I watched this. Thank You!

  • @JP-bj5fm
    @JP-bj5fm Год назад +2

    I saw an expose' on the dangers of linseed oil soaked rags and spontaneous combustion on one of those "60 minutes" type programs way back in the early '80s and it stuck with me. I use a metal paint can with lid to throw rags and gloves in when I'm done applying finish. I can get these plain, unmarked, brand new metal cans at my local home center but I like the red metal bin in the video here. I'll have to look for one of those.

  • @mitchellsmith9289
    @mitchellsmith9289 Год назад +5

    I hope this vid makes it to everyone who has a wood working space. Great job Jason.

  • @GoogleAreDumb
    @GoogleAreDumb Год назад +4

    Awesome video, thanks for doing the test! I've always been careful but figured it was an unlikely thing even if someone got careless once in a while. Good to know I was totally wrong.

  • @Chris_is_carpentry
    @Chris_is_carpentry Год назад

    Awesome video! Very eye opening! Thanks!

  • @omegabyuu
    @omegabyuu Год назад

    Scary, never heard of this before, thanks for letting me know!

  • @apmcgrath1967
    @apmcgrath1967 Год назад +3

    I love all of your work, but this is probably one of the most important videos you've ever done. I certainly will be more aware in my shop. Probably saved some folks some heartache, or worse. Well done!

  • @tomhestand8385
    @tomhestand8385 Год назад +25

    Of all of your videos (and I love them all) I think this one is the most impressive and informative of all. I do this and will change how I work now. Thank you Thank you for saving me from myself.

  • @ZAPATTUBE
    @ZAPATTUBE Год назад

    That was a Great video. This should be Required watching for ALL wood shops
    and woodworking corporations.

  • @01kiwijim
    @01kiwijim Год назад +3

    Great vid. Rember to replace your extinguisher. Dry powder is one use, nitrogen will now leak all out. You should consider having a co2 extinguisher in shop. Dry powder have the best knock down power but in the case of a fire you will be cleaning up dry powder for days, also the powder is corrosive and will wreck your tools and machinery. Co2 has none of the fore mentioned downfalls. Ideally you should have both dry powder and co2. You might already but I thought should share.

  • @jrizz43
    @jrizz43 Год назад +94

    A lot more scientific than I thought you were going to get! Great job! It's one of those things where you are warned about it and "know" about it but until it actually happens you kind of don't believe it

    • @saint-miscreant
      @saint-miscreant Год назад +9

      also for science - notes on temps in non-freedom units, for anyone who needs them:
      55F ≈ 13C
      85F ≈ 29C
      100F ≈ 38C
      112F ≈ 45C
      125F ≈ 52C
      185F = 85C
      200F ≈ 93F

    • @bruce-le-smith
      @bruce-le-smith Год назад

      i was kinda hoping grandma was going to be there to operate the fire extinguisher, like she was the first one to walk the gangplank on the gym set outside haha

  • @Harmonie-jg5jh
    @Harmonie-jg5jh Год назад +37

    That’s unbelievable…truly appreciate your effort in making this video. I’m definitely taking precautions ASAP.

  • @randytaylor73
    @randytaylor73 Год назад

    Amazing video. What a wake up call. Thank you

  • @russellklassen7951
    @russellklassen7951 Год назад +105

    I also am a retired firefighter and hobbyist woodworker I am glad you're covering this. Maybe a bit of an unconventional method, but good info. I saw a beautiful 2 story custom log home burn to the ground from a bag a oil soaked rags. The rags had been used to re-stain/treat the logs during the day and put into a bag in the back of the pickup in the basement garage. It was truly a sad and epic event.

    • @FUCKDSS
      @FUCKDSS Год назад

      as he grid lines out enough fire hazrds to give you a coranary

    • @reallydonotdo
      @reallydonotdo Год назад +13

      ​@@Foxtrot_Foxtrot_Lima I love AvE too!😂

    • @andyh8239
      @andyh8239 Год назад

      AvE released a video that calls this guy out as a Fraud that's using lighter fluid.

  • @kevinkeenan3333
    @kevinkeenan3333 Год назад +4

    I’ve always known this was a thing but also figured I was bordering on obsessive how I lay out every rag completely flat for nearly 24 hrs and then leaving them outside for a day or two before putting them in the garbage. Thanks for validating (or should I say feeding) my obsessiveness.

  • @kaceyvibes
    @kaceyvibes Год назад +27

    My dad had a commercial woodworking shop for decades and he was super strict about laying linseed oil soaked rags in the middle of the concrete floor, then putting them in one of those metal safety cans (that was triangular shaped, that always stuck in my brain). I think he probably told my brother and I about a thousand times that they could spontaneously combust and this is the first time I've actually seen it, scary stuff! Great video, even though it's way different than your usual, I love the methodical approach.

  • @Sprengerfamily
    @Sprengerfamily Год назад

    thanks so much for producing this

  • @jasonl3445
    @jasonl3445 Год назад

    Thanks for making this video stay safe and cheers

  • @irishthief1
    @irishthief1 Год назад +40

    New to woodworking, and I had NO idea that this was a thing. Really appreciate you making this video, and love that someone else also shared it to the local makerspace I just joined. Incredibly informative, and one of the best "psa" videos I've seen.

    • @Ritalie
      @Ritalie Год назад +2

      Dude, seriously. Any "drying" oil product for wood is totally unsafe. It's almost not worth having, unless you're a professional wood worker. I had a big can of boiled linseed oil that I had purchased a few years ago, and after some thought, I returned it. The whole back of the can is a long warning label about how it will catch fire. It's like, why would they sell a flammable product that spontaneously combusts, to people to use on wood? It's like a sick joke or something. Using a natural "raw" oil means the oil is just a plain natural oil and it is almost impossible to catch fire, but anything that cures in 24 hours, will create a reaction that can create excessive heat. They sell steel vessels for rags, where it prevents oxygen and smothers any possible fire. Look for stain trash can, with a metal sealing lid.

    • @lastdaysofhumanity4114
      @lastdaysofhumanity4114 Год назад

      @@Ritalie Hello mate, im new to this stuff and now im scared. What about paints?

  • @andyboybennett
    @andyboybennett Год назад +3

    Thanks for doing this, Jason. This may be the most important video you have done. This should also remind people of the importance of having smoke detectors and fire extinguishers in every shop. My shop is sort of long and narrow, so I have one of each ant each end of my shop, because if a fire started in the center part, I might not be able to get past to access the extinguisher. Also, you should really have multiple exit routes from a shop in case a fire should get out of hand.

  • @TimSavage-drummer
    @TimSavage-drummer Год назад +3

    I was told to always be careful with Danish Oil and I would always hang those rags out but I didn't consider linseed oil as that much of a risk. It might be time for a metal bin outside just to be safe.

  • @brianimpecoven3270
    @brianimpecoven3270 Год назад

    We were at a project, using Rubio to stain trim. We were throwing our materials outside, into the snow bank, in February. (Think highs in the single digits and well below 0 at night) Anyway, we threw our rags out on a Friday afternoon, making sure that they weren't bunched up and were definitely away from the house. We came back on Monday and found that the rags had gotten warm enough to melt all the snow under it and melted all the way down to the ground. In freezing conditions.
    Fortunately no fires though.

  • @aizushu
    @aizushu Год назад +14

    This was exceptional to watch. Thank you for doing this. I have a very small garage shop and always had your thought process of “yeah but how often does it really happen?” This has made me really look into how I can prevent these types of fires from happening.

    • @bobthomas8342
      @bobthomas8342 Год назад +2

      Same for me. I've always known about the danger, but I thought of it as a freak occurrence. To see it happen so easily was an eye opener.

  • @Rohvannyn
    @Rohvannyn Год назад +18

    So well done. I learned a lot, even as a non-woodworker. It was truly interesting to see what sorts of oily rag setups are most hazardous. Thank you for doing all this work and presenting the content in such an engaging way!

    • @Rohvannyn
      @Rohvannyn Год назад

      I wish there were a "report" option on RUclips to call out people who pretend to be the creator. Like this moron pretending to be BourbonMoth but with a period at the end of the user name. Don't be fooled. I still reported, just used a different option.

  • @ugopace3429
    @ugopace3429 Год назад

    thanks for this experiment! very useful...you will help prevent many troubles for people. Thank you!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤

  • @michaelloundes4469
    @michaelloundes4469 Год назад

    wow, thats just scary and crazy how that can pan out, thanks for the vid, stay safe peeps

  • @WackyKayaky
    @WackyKayaky Год назад +6

    This was an awesome video! Gives a realistic idea on what might happen and how long it could take. Also MOST house hold fire extinguishers are, or at least should be, ABC extinguishers which would cover this type of fire.

  • @stevenmcintosh3303
    @stevenmcintosh3303 Год назад +94

    I've always heard about this but honestly thought it was super rare. But your ability to recreate it three times is...holy freaking crap!

    • @bobthomas8342
      @bobthomas8342 Год назад +1

      Same here. To see it happen so easily was an eye opener.

  • @tanialimacosta
    @tanialimacosta Год назад

    Thank you so so much for this video!

  • @joefaraone977
    @joefaraone977 Год назад

    Thanks for doing this!