I love Timewave Zero by Blood Incantation (But I also see why some... well, not some, a lot of people hate it, including Jamie). It's a total homage to Berlin School electronic music (early Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, etc.). If you love that stuff: Get this. And no, it's no joke. They are normally a death metal band (although with lots of prog/tech/psych stuff thrown in), hence the logo, and this was meant as an experiment. Although their latest EP kind of fuses the two styles in the sense that it has one death metal track and one psychedelic spacey instrumental track.
Great Discussion as always! sorry I had to miss the live stream last night. But I have to say that I absolutely LOVE the Twin Temple albums that Jamie Lazslo mentioned, They remind me of the the first COVEN album (minus the Spanish/Mariachi feel... lol), the imagery doesn't match the music but the Lyrical content surely does!
It wos labelled heavy metal by the compilers of sounds heavy metal charts in Britain anyway, an accurate chart that included no punk and no non metal hard rock like the who obviously included acts like heart foreigner, journey nightranger etc and listening to first side of album it's not hard to see why, little different than acts like ozzy Osbourne etc
Glad someone else mention this. I make ambient music myself, and it has it`s place for certain moods. But a bit strange though that Blood Incantation suddently did an ambient album after a death metal album not so unlike bands like Morbid Angel and Nile. But I kind of like this way of doing things. Like for example Ulver. Every albums sounds different from each other. Anyway. Great episode as always
Time Tells No Lies- Praying Mantis Revenge- Mayday Aldo Nova- S/ T Too Old To Rock n Roll- Jethro Tull Union Jacks- The Babys Steal Your Face- Grateful Dead Agents of Fortune- BOC Crime of the Century- Supertramp Toto- S/ T
Both the Kinks and Blur are British, unless Peter meant that Blur are like a 1990s updated answer to 1960s/70s Kinks. I feel like that was what he was trying to say/meant to say, which would be accurate.
Martin Popoff is great, but his comments on occasion make me scratch my head. New York not a musical mecca? The Velvet Underground? CBGBs? All the British artists who moved to New York to be part of that whole scene (also to avoid paying British taxes!)? Later artists like Sonic Youth? NYC has always been at the forefront of musical innovation when it comes to rock and roll, much more so than the comparatively bland West Coast (I know, I know, Zappa, Beefheart...sorry, never got into the whole noodling thing). And no, I'm not from there, don't live there, so I don't have a pony in this race, like Jamie and Grant I'm a central Ohio guy. I just think it's a ridiculous statement, especially coming from someone as knowledgeable about music as Martin. But I guess that's why they call you guys the Contrarians! :)
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The Folklore album cover looks just like what it delivers, a stripped down, introspective, largely though not entirely acoustic, offering in isolation. The notion that it suggest some metal inspiration is bizarre, displaying more of the listening bias of the dude that looks like a geriatric skater boi (don't know his name), than anything.
Roy Harper - The Unknown Soldier (looks like a black metal album). Blackfoot - No Reservations (I don't what kind of music this cover would fit, but southern rock ain't it).
I’m with you Jamie I always heard London Calling was so good but no……..The first song the title track is ok. The last song Train In Vain kind of catchy. Everything in between 🤮
Taylor Swift is only big because of the media hype and our immediate attention to social media that has become our culture. Beatles were big without the type of media that we have today. Back then you just had the radio and the very sporadic TV spots. She will never be compared to the Beatles or other pioneers in my book. She doesn’t do anything special or groundbreaking.
Not only should she never be compared to The Beatles, her "music" won't stand the test of time. In a few years from now when her fan base grows up and moves on to other interests, all that "music" will be quickly forgotten and discarded. There's nothing original or interesting about any of it that would make long lasting. When the hype-machine goes away, so will she, along with her entire output.
Also had to do with the consolidation of the music industry. There used to be a bunch of major record labels that had a huge roster of artists signed under them but buy the time she blew up there were less major labels left thus less big artists signed making it easier for you to stand out above the rest. Even thought you had the interent by then and could find lots and lots of new music the major labels still ran the music industry.
That's a great point about there now being fewer acts (I can't call these people "artists") and thus less competition. Being the "biggest star" when you've only beaten out a few dozen other very similar sounding acts means a lot less than it used to pre-90s when there were so many artists and so much variety. Back then, it WAS a big deal to have a hit song. Nowadays, and probably going back for the last 20, or even 25 years, it means almost nothing.
Taylor Swift is huge because she makes great music. Don't get me wrong, I always enjoy reading comments of salty old men defending their childhood heroes, but the Beatles sycophancy is just a bad look. The idea that (another poster in this thread noted) there was more competition in the pop/rock field in the early 60s is laughably jejune. They were a talented boy band, (until Dylan got them to take their music more seriously, which is an entirely different conversation). But they were admittedly a phenomenal band after that, no question. Melodically, I can't take anything away from McCartney, but let's face it, a disaster lyrically. George was the cream of the crop, in my opinion. All of which brings it all back around.... stop being such simps for a band that ended over half a century ago, and appreciate what's going on now. Your hardened resistance positively oozes off your post, I wouldn't believe you've even tried to listen to Taylor Swift of any band this last quarter century. Give it a try, maybe you wouldn't be so angry.
@ lol I’m not angry just honest. Taylor Swift can’t write on any level on said Legends. Any Level. Her songs are not iconic, or universal. They are aimed at a certain demographic which you are obviously a part of. Sorry! None of her songs will ever stand up next to any of the giants as a classic, or original. Sorry, but the truth hurts. Her sales are due to streams and albums sales. Back when the Beatles rulers the world it was only vinyl sales. And to compare her to Dylan is just sad and delusional. Even comparing her to the likes of Joni Mitchell is almost an abomination. Taylor wants her fans to believe that’s a “tortured artist!” Ok!!! Lol Anyway this is t worth debating over. I know the consensus.
Mr. Popoff is more and more annoying. His Bob Seger bashing and his love for the most boring Pete Townshend album. Come on. It's no surprise is no more a factor on Banger TV
Quicksilver Messenger Service” Happy Trails”
Pete Townshend ATBCHCE, Pete looks like he teamed up with The Human League.
haha
I love Timewave Zero by Blood Incantation (But I also see why some... well, not some, a lot of people hate it, including Jamie). It's a total homage to Berlin School electronic music (early Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, etc.). If you love that stuff: Get this. And no, it's no joke. They are normally a death metal band (although with lots of prog/tech/psych stuff thrown in), hence the logo, and this was meant as an experiment. Although their latest EP kind of fuses the two styles in the sense that it has one death metal track and one psychedelic spacey instrumental track.
My number 1 is Nightsongs by Cinderella. Hair metal cover but kick ass Aerosmith type of heavy boogie rock album. Underrated killer album
Was an epic album 💿
That album rocks, too bad they went downhill after it.
Great Discussion as always! sorry I had to miss the live stream last night. But I have to say that I absolutely LOVE the Twin Temple albums that Jamie Lazslo mentioned,
They remind me of the the first COVEN album (minus the Spanish/Mariachi feel... lol), the imagery doesn't match the music but the Lyrical content surely does!
Black Sabbath- Sabotage
The Sword-Age of Winters
Nemophila- Revive
Cold Chisel - Circus Animals
Dennis deyoung desert moon, a heavy metal album with a Barry manilow cover
Desert Moon... heavy metal? Please elaborate!
It wos labelled heavy metal by the compilers of sounds heavy metal charts in Britain anyway, an accurate chart that included no punk and no non metal hard rock like the who obviously included acts like heart foreigner, journey nightranger etc and listening to first side of album it's not hard to see why, little different than acts like ozzy Osbourne etc
Missed the show today. Actually had to work. Cool episode.
TIMEWAVE ZERO is killer, Lazslo! I've probably listened to that 25 times or more since it came out. Great music for reading.
Glad someone else mention this. I make ambient music myself, and it has it`s place for certain moods. But a bit strange though that Blood Incantation suddently did an ambient album after a death metal album not so unlike bands like Morbid Angel and Nile. But I kind of like this way of doing things. Like for example Ulver. Every albums sounds different from each other. Anyway. Great episode as always
Alan Parsons Project. I thought they were going to be cool proggy space rock but they sounded like a middle of the road soft rock band.
Just because it's related to Alan, have you seen the Keats cover?
Songs From the Big Chair by Tears for Fears looks like a folk-rock album. Very similar to Bookends by Simon and Garfunkel.
both of those covers are so similar... lol
Time Tells No Lies- Praying Mantis
Revenge- Mayday
Aldo Nova- S/ T
Too Old To Rock n Roll- Jethro Tull
Union Jacks- The Babys
Steal Your Face- Grateful Dead
Agents of Fortune- BOC
Crime of the Century- Supertramp
Toto- S/ T
Both the Kinks and Blur are British, unless Peter meant that Blur are like a 1990s updated answer to 1960s/70s Kinks. I feel like that was what he was trying to say/meant to say, which would be accurate.
Spot on...
DaDa for sure. Very odd and so was Alice in '83.
Melvins - Houdini
btw, REO rocks!! we can't all be the clash!!
damn it.. I like you
Album and band is called Masters of Reality (plural).
Hey jamie my house was a neil diamond house lilgreat presentation
Ram Jam-Portrait of the Artist as a Young Ram...no hint from the cover of the heaviness to be found inside
At last, Ween got a mention. Very underrated.
I love Ween (Grant)
Bob Seger is absolutely great R n R
Presence -Led Zeppelin
I love that DaDa album
Rainbow - Bent out of shape , Giuffria debut album, Tobruk - Wild on the run
Gene Simmons - ‘78 solo album
Any album in the nineties should be in here. Every album was made look ironic or contrast from the sound.
Thanks to Nevermind?!?
Martin Popoff is great, but his comments on occasion make me scratch my head. New York not a musical mecca? The Velvet Underground? CBGBs? All the British artists who moved to New York to be part of that whole scene (also to avoid paying British taxes!)? Later artists like Sonic Youth? NYC has always been at the forefront of musical innovation when it comes to rock and roll, much more so than the comparatively bland West Coast (I know, I know, Zappa, Beefheart...sorry, never got into the whole noodling thing). And no, I'm not from there, don't live there, so I don't have a pony in this race, like Jamie and Grant I'm a central Ohio guy. I just think it's a ridiculous statement, especially coming from someone as knowledgeable about music as Martin. But I guess that's why they call you guys the Contrarians! :)
You are central Ohio too! Nice!
Taylor Swift’s 1989 is a pretty good album
Please check out La Sonora Ponceña "Unchained Force" 😂😂 if there's an album that deserves to be here, it's that one, any Sonora Ponceña album, for that matter 🍺🤘
That Taylor Swift cover looks like an Opeth cover!
Wishbone ash : Raw to the bone. Their AOR album has the most brutal artwork. Weird
Any album by the Melvins
The Folklore album cover looks just like what it delivers, a stripped down, introspective, largely though not entirely acoustic, offering in isolation. The notion that it suggest some metal inspiration is bizarre, displaying more of the listening bias of the dude that looks like a geriatric skater boi (don't know his name), than anything.
Roy Harper - The Unknown Soldier (looks like a black metal album).
Blackfoot - No Reservations (I don't what kind of music this cover would fit, but southern rock ain't it).
PFM Chocolate Kings
Rush "Caress of steel" looks like heavy music! Ehhh its NOT.
I’m with you Jamie I always heard London Calling was so good but no……..The first song the title track is ok. The last song Train In Vain kind of catchy. Everything in between 🤮
Taylor Swift is only big because of the media hype and our immediate attention to social media that has become our culture. Beatles were big without the type of media that we have today. Back then you just had the radio and the very sporadic TV spots. She will never be compared to the Beatles or other pioneers in my book. She doesn’t do anything special or groundbreaking.
Not only should she never be compared to The Beatles, her "music" won't stand the test of time. In a few years from now when her fan base grows up and moves on to other interests, all that "music" will be quickly forgotten and discarded. There's nothing original or interesting about any of it that would make long lasting. When the hype-machine goes away, so will she, along with her entire output.
Also had to do with the consolidation of the music industry. There used to be a bunch of major record labels that had a huge roster of artists signed under them but buy the time she blew up there were less major labels left thus less big artists signed making it easier for you to stand out above the rest. Even thought you had the interent by then and could find lots and lots of new music the major labels still ran the music industry.
That's a great point about there now being fewer acts (I can't call these people "artists") and thus less competition. Being the "biggest star" when you've only beaten out a few dozen other very similar sounding acts means a lot less than it used to pre-90s when there were so many artists and so much variety. Back then, it WAS a big deal to have a hit song. Nowadays, and probably going back for the last 20, or even 25 years, it means almost nothing.
Taylor Swift is huge because she makes great music. Don't get me wrong, I always enjoy reading comments of salty old men defending their childhood heroes, but the Beatles sycophancy is just a bad look. The idea that (another poster in this thread noted) there was more competition in the pop/rock field in the early 60s is laughably jejune. They were a talented boy band, (until Dylan got them to take their music more seriously, which is an entirely different conversation). But they were admittedly a phenomenal band after that, no question. Melodically, I can't take anything away from McCartney, but let's face it, a disaster lyrically. George was the cream of the crop, in my opinion.
All of which brings it all back around.... stop being such simps for a band that ended over half a century ago, and appreciate what's going on now. Your hardened resistance positively oozes off your post, I wouldn't believe you've even tried to listen to Taylor Swift of any band this last quarter century. Give it a try, maybe you wouldn't be so angry.
@ lol I’m not angry just honest. Taylor Swift can’t write on any level on said Legends. Any Level. Her songs are not iconic, or universal. They are aimed at a certain demographic which you are obviously a part of. Sorry!
None of her songs will ever stand up next to any of the giants as a classic, or original.
Sorry, but the truth hurts. Her sales are due to streams and albums sales. Back when the Beatles rulers the world it was only vinyl sales.
And to compare her to Dylan is just sad and delusional. Even comparing her to the likes of Joni Mitchell is almost an abomination.
Taylor wants her fans to believe that’s a “tortured artist!” Ok!!! Lol
Anyway this is t worth debating over. I know the consensus.
Had to miss it again, guys.
My main choice would be Black Sabbath’s Technical Ecstasy.
Also:
Golden Earring - Contraband.
That John Coltrane album is garbage, the whole thing sounds the same, very repetitive
Meatloaf was one of the worst singers ever made
Huh...
Mr. Popoff is more and more annoying. His Bob Seger bashing and his love for the most boring Pete Townshend album. Come on. It's no surprise is no more a factor on Banger TV
so go watch banger tv 🤡