Test Review 2022 Honda Africa Twins
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- Andrew Clubb, Editor of Australian Adventure Bike Magazine (AAB) and Dave Darcy of Motorcycle Adventure Dirtbike TV and Editor at Large at AAB test two versions of the 2022 Honda Africa Twin.
In this first of a two part series Dave focusses on testing the standard Africa Twin model and Clubby rides the top of the range Adventure Sport DCT ES.
This detailed review will focus on both bikes' suitability as adventure mounts for Australian conditions. A strong focus of the tests will be on dirt handling.
The test has been broken into two parts due to poor weather conditions that has seen extensive flooding in the areas used for testing the bikes.
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I rode the Gs for years but have now bought the new ATAS 2022 with the DCT, best decision!
Absolutely the best bike ever after trying out many things. It simply convinces everywhere and is even cheaper!
Thanks for the Video and the Test!
Great to hear!
Have a 2017 with minimal electronics which suits me well. Mine is armored for off road and I beat the crap out of it. At 63 years old it has become my go to therapy. Just wish it was easier to pick up off the ground but the weight disappears in the saddle.
Love mine and continue to enjoy Honda reliability. It’s amazing how well it works off road.
As usual, great review.
Thanks mates
Thank you
I hear you they are heavy...look into the tool called The Dirt Napper, this will help you pick up the bike if you happen to fall
Still travelling with my „old“ standard Crf1100 from 2020. So far, it never let me down on my now 6month journey and DCT is lovely, even off-road. Suspension was a bit soft, but perfectly adjustable for me. For me it is almost the perfect RTW-bike, even though i wish it would be a bit lighter. It’s a good cruiser as well.
Looks like the 2022 AT is even better! Nice video! 👍
Yes suspension has improved.
I feel the bike sits in a very interesting position where it competes in multiple classes. For one, it competes with the 'mid weight' ADVs, especially the T7. Both ADVs with Japanese reliability, one a bit more leaning towards road the other towards dirt. Standouts for me were the fit and finish, options like cruise control and quick shifter, build in navigation with android auto and very comfortable seated position. I feel it can do similar things to the T7 offroad, but it will just cost you more effort.
Secondly it competes with the bigger tourer machines (tiger 1200, GS etc). Still enough power to do touring and carry luggage, but not so much to seriously compromise the offroadability.
For me personally it strikes a good balance for road/dirt, whilst still being able to do comfortable long distance touring with pillion. It really feels like the 'do it all' kind of motorcycle.
I feel it's closer to the T7 in terms of performance. Certainly has better standard suspension. The T7 is top heavy so the slight difference in weight evens up with the T7s higher centre of gravity.
Interesting! Thanks for posting. I have an ATAS DCT turning up tomorrow at the Adelaide dealer. Been on order for 4 or 5 months, and it's eventually made it :)
Looking forward to the next episode.
It will be great for blasting around SA.
The best and definitive test of the twins I've seen, well done.
Wow, thank you!
Picking up the DCT 2022 ATAS ES in about two weeks and looking forward to it. Moved from a CRF250l to a NC750X DCT and rode a DCT ATAS and loved it off-road. Getting a foot shifter for the DCT and that helped a lot. Thanks for this thorough review!
Hope you enjoy it!
I got a red manual transmission version just like the one in the video a couple months back and absolutely love it. It’s actually a quiet sporty looking machine and people comment on it regularly.
Yep happened to me. I was very impressed with this Red model.
Just been riding mine today. Needed up with a passenger after my mates KTM 790 decided it need rest a long way from home…….again. I really love my AT!
Ended with a passenger due KTM gremlins.
Tell your mate to get the 890.
I thought it worth mentioning that the Adventure Sports also comes in manual transmission and non electronic suspension and here in New Zealand the price difference is standard model (manual) $25995 vs Adventure Sports (manual) $27995...not a huge difference. For that you get the heated grips, larger fuel range, slightly better weather protection, adjustable wind shield and LED cornering lights.
The way to think about the power, engine braking and traction control levels is to think about varying levels of intervention.
The ergos of the Africa Twin is fantastic.
Thank you
The AT is a very serious candidate as the ideal off-road biased litre+ ADV platform. It's arguably more dependable or at least easier and cheaper to maintain than the usual comparable suspects from BMW and KTM and despite the latters' obvious power/torque advantage, one really has to ask, what exactly will most riders ever do with all those additional horses especially on the dirt?
Looking forward to this review.
Suspension, suspension , suspension - really good off road straight out of the box. But I won't say too much or I'll spoil the review.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV hi, after carefully viewing your Africa Twin tests and conclusions, I returned to your Norden 901 review ... soooo, which one do you choose ? And too bad you didn't test the Aprila Tuareg 660, smaller engine/power, but only 204kg ready to go dirt with full gas tank.
Good review guys. I had a bit of time on a friends 2017 AT standard manual model a few years back and I liked it, but wasn't ready to get a new bike just yet. Then this past fall I got to put a couple hundred miles on a 2022 AT standard with manual transmission and I was in love with that bike! My bike has to be a commuter for work and a master of the highway too. My trip to work is 32 miles/50km of gravel road every day during the riding season and the 2022 AT can run a gravel road and be super sure footed doing so, it's an amazing motorcycle. As soon as the 23's were available to order this past fall I ordered one! I ordered the Adventure Sports with manual transmission. I will shift my own gears till hell freezes over, I want to be the one in total control. It should be arriving at my dealer around the end of January from what I'm told, I won't be brining it home till probably about the end of the first week in April, that's generally about when my riding season starts here, I'm looking forward to it. You mentioned that your bikes there came equipped standard with a centre stand, they don't here. I had to shell out another $350.00 for that, it's sitting in my garage now waiting to be installed when I get my bike home. Also another positive in my opinion for the Africa Twin is that it will run fine on regular 87 octane gas compared to most of the other big adventure bikes requiring premium fuel. I am taking a long trip this summer and I will be doing good to get regular gas let alone premium. My trip this summer will be really close to 10000km/6200 miles, I am so looking forward to spending some quality bonding time with my new bike. Cheers guys!
Thanks Myron
Great video and detailed rational explanations, thank you. Got my standard version 6 weeks ago. Design, engine punch are great, hopefully reliability too. I concur with your comments, a few liters more would have been welcome and the electronic controls are anti-ergonomic, including the inversion of turn signal and horn, and cruise on the throttle hand side.
Just finished with the bikes. I got used to it in the end but there is a better way.
Thinking of the Adv Sports with quick shift, also has tubeless tires plus the mileage. I've had DCT for over 17 yrs. on my Honda ATV's. Hell, it works great. No issue. Little hunting on early editions at idle but latter is great. Stay safe, hope the water recedes. Good review and vid. Always appreciate a mechanic that can stand on his head and work. Good job Dave.
Ha ha. Thanks. It's still bloody raining and I'm suppose to be on the DCT on Friday
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Clubby be wanting his fancy ride back.
Enjoyed your review - I own a 2020 AT (basic model) and found your assessment to be honest and accurate. BTW, the reason there are two screens is so that you can still see speed and fuel when the top screen is being used for other things, (for example navigation) when vitals are not displayed although you need a compatible head set to use the TFT screen for navigation, music etc.
Simon
Thank you.
Thank you for the video. Looks really good. Some things that I noticed, you actually ride on least power (more blue is less power) and you can turn wc and tc totally off if you hold the toggle switch on the left cluster to the left (it changes to 0). Also on the abs, you can set it to only front wheel by holding the same. These options are only possible to change in user modes 1 or 2 and the most detailed screen (gold screen)
That was extremely helpful.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV 👍🏻it applies to all settings. More blue is less fun, so more blue is less engine breaking, more blue is more traction control etc!
@@depsych I'm glad you bought this up. I have a 2020 model and really struggled to get my head around the setup until I watched a RUclips vid from Daryl Beattie which explains everything and its very simple and other turning ABS and TC Completely Off, it can be done on the move.
The user manual is a complete waste of time in trying to understand how to do this.
@@DLL969 Yeah, that owner's manual is made out from some kind of non-pedagogical view or something. Not very logical to me at least 🤷♂️😅
I’ve got 10k on my 2021 atas, awesome bike. The controls are second nature now. Far more capable off-road than the larger cc bikes.
Totally agree!
Own the CRF1100L and had so much fun on it. It handles great on the bitumen, better than I expected and confidence-inspiring on the gravel. I haven't taken it down trails like in your test as I'm still running the stock tires and it's been very wet. I think the motor is one of the best that I have encountered, great usable power and enough to put a smile on the dial. I'm not a 100% about the seat, probably the only thing that I may upgrade. Anyway, loved your initial thoughts and picked up a few tips to regarding the suspension adjustment.
Thanks for you contribution.
Thanks Davo! Awesome review! its quite strange here in South Africa. I went to the dealers to check out second hand bikes. The pricing for the T7 and tiger 900 are all very similar to the AT standard, it seems its the best value for money..
That's interesting. I would have expected the T7 a little cheaper.
You are both fabulous. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis.
Glad you enjoyed it
I’m pretty sure If you press and hold the traction control on setting 1 it will switch completely off to zero. Great video and great bike.
Thanks for the info!
Willie control is the same: set to 1, hold for few seconds and get it on zero.
@@thelostgeneration2000 thank you
The AT has a double HUD and Apple/Android car. This means you can hook up your phone and still have the vitals on the lower display. You can essentially eliminate the need to buy a dedicated gps. So, you get to use all your favorite apps on the top screen and retain vital on the bottom. No other bike has this ability.
Yeah, that's a great thing about it.
Great review of both bikes. Well done. I ride the AT 2017 without all electronics (only ABS and TC). The bike is really reliable. With the newer bikes and all the electronic gadgets, IMO the AT gets less reliable. Electronics can break down.
Time will tell if the electronics of the 2022-model is made fool proof.
Great review guys, bolsters my choice of going for the standard manual! 👌🏼
Good choice!
Thoroughly enjoyed your review! Very informative.
Glad you enjoyed it!
As for fuel capacity it's not a big deal to have a fuel bottle RotoPax or bladder . My skills and budget allowed for the Tenere 700 . Small fuel tank but I bought two 1.5 liter fuel bottles and the pouches to attach them to my Tusk soft side panniers . Haven't used them yet but I will soon . Love that Africa Twin though , what a beaut !
I don't think you've watched Tropical Punch where we road across Australia's top end. Filling bikes from containers or bladders at the end of the day when your tired is a pain in the backside.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
Yeah I missed it . I live in a coastal town in Northern California but we don't have any legal offroad places unless you have friends that own a farm or ranch . It's hard to get the time to take away from my business , especially with this crap economy , to go and take a few days off to find the nice places we do have in this state . Just last month I was able to pack up the bike boat and family to the mountains , a wonderful time . Found out what real dirt tires can do on that Tenere . Now I am confident that I can do most double track but an offroad training class would be a good idea for me . Looking forward to the next episode where you ride these Twins , take care now .
@@hardworkingamerican8847 do yourself a favour, watch tropical punch.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
Okay
Great video Dave clubby is growing on me ! Since I saw how he turned the crf arround I thought he actually know how to handle a bike say hi !
Frank. It was quick and skilled.
Question, can you fit a fuel tank from the Adventure Sports model to the standard Africa Twin model.great video and helpful as I feel it's a very honest review
Phil Uk
I don't know.
The standard version is now about the weight of the T7 World Raid, with a higher price, but with a lot more refinements in terms of TC and suspension. Here in Europe, the standard version with a quick shifter is very popular and, frankly, compared to KTM and BMW pricing, it is not expensive. I feel this to be the almost perfect compromise, if you don't just want a light, dirt oriented enduro bike, like the CRF or the WRF. If I were to go on a long tour, I would certainly prefer the Honda.
Good points. I can understand why the standard with the $400 AU option of quick shifter would be popular.
Thanks guys for the video, I have a '21 standard model and I love it best bike I've ever had, you can't beat Honda reliability, I've had it just over a year and have 16 k miles. On it , it's my forever bike, you won't regret it if you get one and hey y'all from Alabama
Yeah it is a great bike.
Wonderful to see Sydney I've always wanted to ride a motorcycle in your country. My dream trip would be to bring my DR650 and stay a whole year.
I am looking at a 2021 Dct with 53,000 km. All highways, apparently ( maybe) I am going to do some light off road and dont want to care about dropping it. A little worried about milage.
BTW you guys are the professional testers and you dont know the touch screen doesnt work while moving?
14 switches on the left side handle bar? That's gotta be some sort of record for an ADV bike? The T7 is comparatively simple, which appeals to many ADV riders. Another great video. Cheers
My thoughts exactly but the T700 has ZIP for electronics
Just came off my 1100 manual at the ABR, but I still love it
I like the idea of a quick shifter.
thanks guys for such detailed video! Awesome!
one question, I'm 175 cm and wanted to buy the ATAS. would recommend the height. I haven't sat on one because in Canberra there's none right now.
Seat can be lowered.
Great review thank you.
What camera and mic set up are you using please?
Go Pro 9, media pack, mic connected to media pack
Dave My Wife and I were in Sydney back in 2000 Just after the Olympics... What a Beautiful City SUPER clean... Far better than say OUR SanFrancisco which has Truly Gone Down Hill.. over the past 20 yrs... Hope THATS not the case with Sydney... We were down under to go HangGliding at Stanwell Park just south of the city.... Wishing we also had Bikes that trip to explore with... As for the A T. Im looking at one with DCT but may go with the Clutch version once I get a Test Ride... Im also Currently waiting to hear some RIDE Reviews on the NEW TransAlp 750 before pulling the AT trigger..... Given I'm now in my mid 60s I dont really need all the suspension travel of the AT but DO wish the TransAlp had its Cruise Control...... Crossed Fingers that HONDA wakes up and puts it on their Production models...... Thanks again for all you two do...... Ride Safe....
Also worth having a look at the Suzuki 800 as it has better suspension.
Great review mate , where abouts in Sydney was the off road riding filmed ?
To the north west.
The only tips I can give from my 2022 model is to set up all of the ride displays in the same format. I got tired of searching in different spots for the same information, and on some screens the info isn’t there anyway. The default ride mode for the DCT lugs the revs to low in reduced power modes, unridable. Go straight to sport shift level 2, all of the time.
Thanks John for your sage advice.
You cant beat Honda and Yamaha reliability.
Agree
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV agree except there is lots complaining about rust and painting on AT
@@jarek916 I always encourage riders considering purchasing a bike to get on the net and have a look around. We always get these bikes new and they are in their halo period.
@@jarek916 And touchscreen issues in colder weather.
Another thorough and insightful review from MAD TV👍. As a 72kg weight and 175cm height rider how would the standard Africa Twin vs standard T7 feel in terms of weight distribution and general handling off-road? I just sold a 2012 R1200GS with the goal of an easier off-road experience but to still have a reasonable travel capability. I road a T7 in Botswana for 3 weeks and a pretty positive experience in a wide range of conditions. Considering the T7, Aprilia Tuareg, DesertX and Africa Twin as replacements.
The suspension on the 2022 AT is superior to the standard T7, if your pushing reasonably hard in the dirt. No doubt the RAID Yamaha will have better suspension. Both handle excellently for their size. But considering the imminent arrival of those other models you mention I think it is a time for waiting.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV - As always sage advice from MAD TV! Thanks
I have always loved the looks and appeal of the Africa Twin but settled on the Yamaha SuperTenere (S10). My reasons are that the S10 has less complexity (though the Honda has reliability, as does the S10) and a shaft drive (for what I want to do) The only thing that the S10 lacks for my needs is a 21 inch front wheel. Also: $$$$$.
Both bikes are good. I've ridden the S10 quite a lot and loved it.
Thanks for the review Dave, and also all the other vids you put together. Really looking forward to another dose of Nugget. After two 1200GS I switched to a Red 2020 AT standard about 12 months ago, really love the look and sound of the AT. To have the same throttle settings On/Off road I have configured the two user modes, and that works well, and with the favorite button setup for TC I don't need to use the other buttons much, and even started using Apple carplay to replace the Zumo.
If you wouldn't mind, please let me know what your weight is and the suspension settings you used for rebound and compression. Thnaks.
94kg. 4 compression clicks up from standard, two full turns of rebound. Rear preload wound just about to the max, 2 clicks compression, 2 clocks rebound.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks Dave. I will use those as a starting point, I have found the limits on the front at times. Another wet weekend in Brissie, so I will try dial in the preload front and rear.
@@conradvr9311 The Shoa suspension is really good and clickers respond. It's similar, if not the same suspension to the Triumph Tiger Pro 900 which was very adjustable.
I’m struggling with my stock suspension setup. Just doesn’t feel right, 2024 standard model.
Would lobe suspension settings so I can tweak mine.
Sorry mate long time ago, can;t remember
Even though the Africa has a 200cc advantage, it seems like the closest comparison is to the KTM 890 Adventure or Adventure R. I HAVE a 2021 Adventure R, so, it'd be interesting to see a heads-up comparo. I'm probably 240lbs with gear and I've NEVER bottomed it out or even felt like I was close, as evidenced by the dirt marks on the fork. Great video as always, keep up the good work, and hopefully I'll get down undah one day to ride!
I definitely bottomed it out a number of times and close once I adjusted the suspension. I heard the bashplate scape the sand on some landings. Or kiss the sand may be more accurate.
Nice one Dave & Clubby
There very cool Cheers
thanks
I haven't read all comments. So not sure if anyone asked how the Triumph Tiger Rally 900 Pro stacks up as an overall value for money package against the standard AT? You've ridden both, what say you?
Paul we have thorough tests on both bikes so worth a look if you're wanting my view on both.
...also you should check how it work engine braking on tehnical downhills especially in first and second gear...i ride standard AT allready two years and i love her more more....this bike in skilled hands is space shuttle!
Thanks for your contribution.
Thanks Dave for the info.
I hope it was useful.
When yall learn that soft suspension is GOOD thing, this isn't enduro bike, you WANT to have comfortable suspension
Anyone know how the electronic Suspenion is for realiabilty?
I have a 2007 KTM 990S (265mm suspension non ABS one) which I love dearly as it suits my height/weight. Thinking about getting a newer bike. Rode the AT1100 standard at Dave Thorpe UK and liked it but felt cramped (36inch inseam) and suspension wayyy too soft in standard settings (105kg). Also, want a Norden with xplor pro or a new 1290R. Im no expert rider but can push these beasts a bit on 80%off road biased tires. What would you recommend?
Well firstly the AT suspension is not soft when tuned. We have tested the latest 1290 so have alook at our review. The Norden is outstanding with the expensive suspension. With your weight standard the Norden suspension on the rear wouldn't work well unless you kept to the road. We have a review of that bike with standard and Pro suspension on this channel as well.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thx mate. Saw the Norden review. Have not seen the 1290 but will check. 🙏
Please, please, get in touch with Devin up in Kendall. I think it's up around the lake district. He owns Fuel exhaust. He makes top of the line exhaust. I like the Diablo. His exhaust are reasonably priced as well. I'm not exactly sure when I'll be getting my AT, but when I do find it, the first thing I want on it is the Diablo. I know where one is right now. The dealership is roughly 350 miles away from me. Honda added a 200 dollar destination fee to the bike. On top of that, there's a 9.25 % sales tax. Then I'll probably be spending a little over 200 dollars on fuel to go and pick it up. Anyway, I've decided to wait until a dealership closer to me can get one in. Seems like this has been going on since 2018 when I started looking.
Sounds good
Excellent video! Would love to gear how it stacks up to the competiton in the final review. Here is Canada the AT AS ES is the same price as the 1290 SAR and there are no test bikes to be found anywhere, so i am relying on videos like this to make my decision. Appreciate the thoroughness of your content.
I would suggest waiting for the next video before making that decision.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV i need to wait till the 2023 model arrives, we didnt get many 2022 1290Rs in Canada, so waiting shouldnt be a problem :)
@@sjsherwin No I mean, there are four models to the Honda as well as the KTM consideration.
Techies who over tighten nuts should be sent for one months solitary confinement.Thanks for the review.
Agree.
Great vid guys 😎👍
Glad you enjoyed it
I love my DCT. some people get a shock when I say it is Automatic. blip the throttle at 120km, the front tyre lifts up... bigger screen on the front due to me being over 200cms...
Well I ride it in earnest on the dirt on Friday.
Also you are not able to use the touch screen function while the bike is on the move, another safety feature ??
Oh dear. Still getting our heads around it.
It's kind of limited control. You still can use some of the features with buttons, not touch screen
Great review fellas . I think manufacturers have gone the wrong way with to many electronics. Imagine the gremlins they will have after 10 or 20 years. Anyways that's my opinion
There is a far simpler way to do it.
BMW still seem to have it easy with their TFT/Wheel, so easy to use, this looks very complicated, quite sure after riding it for a couple of hundred miles, and knowing where your hand and fingers are, will slowly become easier to use.
The most complicated system I've experienced. When yu think how many bikes I've ridden that's saying something.
what tires were mounted on the Adventure Sport ?
Anarchy Wild
Don't know if you mention it...is it finally tubeless on both models?
Really looking forward to seeing this review ☺️
Only on the adventure sports model.
Nope Tubeless on the DCT and Tubes in the Standard.
Hi, can you please tell me who is selling Quick Shifters for $400. I am waiting on my 2022 ATAS ( arrives October) and asked about it and was quoted $1200 plus fitting.
Honda HQ told me it was a $400 AU extra. Definite.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV thanks, I’ve got the Honda dealer I’m purchasing the bike from looking into it.
@@storkyize Unless your buying the next grade up from the standard, that includes heated grips, tubeless, adjustable windshield but no DCT. Then that price would sound about right. Oh and bigger tank? It was the Honda PR Australia guy that gave me the price.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Yes, it’s the adventure sports manual, one down from the DCT.
So are you saying $400 is or the price I was quoted?
@@storkyize Well that's the correct price, because you're getting a heap of other things, not just the quick shifter.
I believe you'll find the fuel bars on display to be pessimistic. Fuel consumption is a displayed parameter and appears to be much more accurate/useful. I've owned my bike (Base, Manual) for one week now, and filled tank once. Display showed only 2 of 9 bars, but I was only able to put 2.7 US gallon in it. Approximately 45% full, yet display at only 2 bars. Trust the consumption and data on Gold display and don't experience fuel anxiety.
I agree, some are conservative. Not used to the bike. The T700 is the same.
Outstanding review. Very little detail out there comparing the standard and adventure models. So much choice it hurts.
Glad you liked it! It was interrupted with rain but we eventually got there.
How does this bike rate compared to the Norden 901 in your opinion?
Close. It depends what's important to you. AT suspension is better to me, but electronics and how you access them is way better on the Norden. We are spoilt for choice.
AT will be more reliable than the norden i suspect but I am biased have the AT. Love it.
Norden looks like made by IKEA...
@@thelostgeneration2000 Is that good or bad? The KTM 890 looks like it was designed by a blind person...🤣😅👍
@@Macedonia270 Well, norden looks better on TV screen than in a dealership, IMHO...
Heck, we sell out of the Africa Twins all the time here!
Yeah I get that. It's a solid bike.
So how was the suspension? 🙂
Bloody good standard.
That left-hand button cluster is nothing. Try 17 buttons on the 2018+ Gold Wing left-hand grip!
That's why I don't ride road bikes.
Rally kit on these look sweet
They would
Beautiful area 👌❤️
It really is!
I think you need to turn-off the ABS when you ride in Off-road.
Yes...but off road ABS could be better.
cant you filtering do in Australia?
Not sure what you mean
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I mean I traffic is it legal or not if you filter between the cars
@@sorena1973 yes we can filter.
Really considering buying this bike. But the electronics scare me. I just wanna ride. Have considered buying an old 1000 but like this bike better, just those electronics...
I would do that. What I would do is ue the electronic to their best advantages. Make yourself up to customised off road settings and leave it at that. Then you can quickly flick through four settings. That's how I'd ride this bike. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water, because the suspension is a real strong point for the 2022 model.
Need that 450Rally
ATAS manual is a better deal vs base model, especially if you want tubeless wheels, heated grips, bigger tank...
Yeah I agree.
Great review, I have a 2020 adv sports, no dct, no ES, as this all adds weight and cost, this is a big bulky bike and takes a little while to get used to the bulk, i am 185cm tall and this bike is not that easy to get on and off, gripes, well there are a few, the engine has no torque below 2000/2500rpm, very poor for a modern engine and for 1100cc 105hp is pretty mediocre, 125hp would be nice, this is an adventure bike and there is no storage for tools, puncture repair, etc, the calculated fuel range is a bit iffy, not convinced it is very accurate, that front seat section is an atrocious design, getting it back on in the right position is fiddly and time consuming, air filters are not easily accessible, you need to remove all the front plastics to get at them with the risk of breaking the clips, this has an el cheapo cable clutch, my 21yo 1200s bandit has a hydraulic one, positives, the electronics are good once you figure them out, good fuel range, comfortable, good weather protection, great gravel road tourer, stable and predictable
I was clear, it's not calculated fuel range. I said we were going to to a real world test. It hasn't been done yet. Please listen
That's still a better location than the 2016 model tool box location
Is that a tool box? I never saw the 2016 so I'll take your word for that.
20:42You don't use in-vehicle tools, do you?
The shifting spanner was given to us at the service station
Mi maaa no tiene ni idea de la moto, y estos son probadores?
The only thing i got to say is that the standard version needs another design, the standard version is ok.
I felt the standard was a solid bike.
Love Clubby putting crap on Dave. Sounds like when my brother and I go for a ride.
He does it well.
F6B now African twin next
My local trails are too technical for a bike so big.
@ADV Biking I prefer to ride something less than 300lbs.
I like light motorcycles too.
Plated KDX200
Yep. Need to lok at that video
They can keep that one, too much for me, Honda should come out with something like the KTM 690 Enduro much simpler and lighter
Fair enough!
Yes, Paris to Dakar. I still call it that hahaha.
Yes :)
Sport bike good
Adventure bike look good
Hi Dave certainly enjoying your and Clubby review, This video i made not long after I nutted out how to navigate through all the settings may be helpful, TC ,ABS and how to set up each different screen mode, Gold Silver Bronze. ruclips.net/video/g6bn9PZAwb4/видео.html . I am on a 2020 AS with manual suspension. Takes a bit to gel with. I agree with your comments on the ABS package, it has taken me awhile to adapt my braking and get used to the front brake., especially after coming from the bigger KTM 1190, I have found now that I actually dont use many of those 14 buttons and change things to much. I have each ride mode set to the Gold Screen so I can see everything I need to change. I love the bike its comfy and easy to ride and doesn't feel like its pulling my arms out all day, Very good manners off road. Biggest pain I have with the bike is that it wont save the TC and ABS settings if you turn the bike off at the key or dump it and have to restart. Keep up the great content mate . Brent NZ
Thanks, but I wish you had filmed the buttons you were using at the same time.
I say that to the Misses when she's driving ,you see Im quite big in the trouser compartment so when she's changing gear I say don't grab that by m is take 🤔😂
Hmm :)
i came here to see the bike they are showing me the road 🤷🤦🏻♂️
Watch the 2024 review across Australia.
Thé Africa Twins have disappointed so far!
You're going to have to do better than that. And start with the brand of bike you ride.
Ducati makes Most beautiful Worst Bikes
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Excessive Commercials...
How am I supposed to survive? This is not a hobby, this is my livelihood.
Adds seem to be random. I watched the whole thing with one one ad break.
Too heavy for off-road, too tall for the street. A stupid motorcycle.
Thank you for your effort.
Ignorance is a funny thing. If you watched that video where the bike is smoothly landing a 10 metre dirt jump, you are really trying to be ignorant.