I worked for Cycle world magazine in the 90's, and have been riding all my life. I badly injured my left hand, and can no longer "effectively" use a clutch. Looking like this is going to be my next bike since it has a DCT version. Great video. I love the candor, editing, and slow-mo sections, Excellent job.
I also had a work accident, and I lost 2 fingers on my left hand. Kept riding with a clutch for a while but riding the dct for a year now really openend my eyes!! Its amazing!
I'm looking at that new Rebel 1100 for the same reason. Nerve damage in my left hand turns it into a claw at the most inopportune moments - usually when trying to play guitar. That would be bad news if it happened and I needed to squeeze a clutch.
Great video! I have the 2020 Africa twin adventure sports DCT ES (that’s a mouthful). After riding with a manual clutch for over 40yrs, I was hesitant with owning an “automatic”. I rode a friends 2019 DCT for about 30 minutes and was pleasantly surprised. The first 10 min, I was on tour mode and wasn’t impressed with power delivery. It seemed too sluggish and I thought “why would I buy this dog?”... the last 15 minutes, in sport mode, what a difference! The bike really came alive once I had the settings somewhat figured out. A week later, I was picking up the new 2020! I think it’s easy to knock the DCT if you haven’t ridden it. Once a person gets some seat time, it’s easy to see the future of motorcycles. Is it perfect? No. Is it an example of the evolution of motorcycling? Most definitely! One has to buy the bike for their particular ride. In more technical off road riding, a manual will still be the preferred final drive. Most riders of these bikes will be doing long highway miles and light to moderate off roading so you’ll see the trend moving to a majority of DCT final drives. It’s a niche market.... I see the Africa twins for the highway tourers and the majority of hard core off road riders will gravitate to a more off road oriented, simpler bike such as the Yamaha Tenere 700. I do agree with the Africa twin tires, they are 90% a street tire and a little too sketchy for gravel and off road. That’s why I have a set of Mitas E-07’s sitting in the garage beside the Africa twin. I apologize for the long winded opinion.
If you want an Africa Twin for hardcore off road riding, you're better off with the original model, last built in 2003. It's a 750cc V-twin engine with a bunch of torque right from idle, and with studded tyres it's a fine machine for off-roading right off the bat.
I've had that exact bike since April 2020. It's absolutely fantastic. I wasn't entirely sure I'd enjoy DCT but bought it anyway and I love it! You do have to get used to dragging your rear brake on slow technical maneuvers, but that's relatively quick to master. The only things that are wacky about DCT - and probably the most dangerous until you adapt - are the bike being in "native neutral" when not moving. This means if you're doing a technical hill climb and things go awry, you don't have the option to just kill it and let the gearing hold the bike. Also means if parked on a hill you MUST use the parking brake. The other weird DCT-ism is having to REALLY master throttle input, since you can't modulate throttle with a clutch. In practical terms, this means if you stumble or get jostled on a technical track and go whisky throttle, you're in for one hell of a ride followed by a likely trip to the hospital. You'll find yourself really using that finger leverage off your brake handle to make sure your throttle input is just so. The electronics are great, though they certainly take some getting used to. I'm happy now that they've upgraded the system to accept Android Auto as well as Apple CarPlay. And know that if you want to toggle between CarPlay/Auto and the primary dash screen, you can; it's just a quick flick on one of the switches to jump back and forth. I've had it in some pretty stupid places and out on a MX track and it's WAY more capable than I am! Great review!
I test rode the DCT, and while i picked the manual, i love that Honda offers the DCT. Like you said, its a little odd at first in slow speed situations, but you use the rear brake and it all seems to work. If you rode in a place with traffic, DCT would be a godsend.
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@@advrider8447 I'd love to watch a whole episode just on DCT - or non-clutch transmissions more broadly - to get a better understanding of the trade-offs, surprises, and optimal use cases. You have commentary on this here and in your Zero Black Forest video, but I imagine you could talk intelligently and fascinatingly about this for quite a while.
Got mine in December after 10 years with BMW GS and RT, mine is DCT and electronic suspension, adventure version ... wonderful bike, love it, i am 6foot 3 and it feels very comfortable, added Touratech crash protection, DCT IS AMAZING !!!
Bought the same ride last year. Drove through a big part of BC Canada and my local Rockie mountains compiling 9000kms. Absolutely love everything about it! DCT and electronic suspension work amazingly for me. I'm a dirt rider also, and mountain sledder. The ATASes is just a different style of bike to learn and adjust to, but once you understand it, it's a dream! I'm California dreaming on a winter's day, with covid gone away, lol. Thanks to everyone for sharing. Well done eh :-) 🇨🇦
Really good vid. I'm going to buy a 2020 Version of the AT but not the DCT. I tested it, but for me it was the feeling to loose control over the switch points. After 30 Years riding, this will be my fifth Honda an I'm really impressed of the reliability of this bikes. And the Design of the AT is outstanding.
Hi Baldy great review I have a 2017 manual really lucky to pick it up at Huntington Beach Honda in June 2019 the red black white model for $9349.00 I was on the hunt for left over 2018 klr650's just couldn't pass up that deal the AT will make you a better dirt rider or kill ya, I'm still kicking so my lowly dirt skills are improving every time I drop this monster.
I really appreciate your view and perspective on the bike, especially the parts about the DCT and the fact that you mention some of the problems that this model could have and has had in the past. As someone who is in the market for an adventure sport and will most likely end up with either a Super Ténéré or an Africa Twin, this review was very helpful. I find that too many owners, and even some reviewers, are not very subjective and sometimes overlook problems and shortcomings when discussing a bike they have purchased, or prefer. Any additional advice or guidance would be appreciated!
This was an excellent review. I really liked how you brought in new-to-the-bike riders as well as long term riders. I did not expect to learn anything, but the variety of opinions made this review better than anything else out there. Keep it up!
Well Sir, It was a good video. Pretty informative. I myself could care less about wheelies. Never have. I just enjoy riding, mostly on road but, I also like forest service roads, light duty trails etc. I'm not into the torcher-the-bike AND myself stuff. Been there, done that. I have an '18 AT/AS/DCT and love it to death. I've been shifting transmissions for 55+ years. When I took a test ride on the DCT, it took me all of about 2 city blocks, IN THE D MODE, to convince me the DCT was/is for me. I didn't have to ride it for a thousand miles like what was suggested by some folks. The performance of that DCT is to me, flawless. Anyway, Your video was good and covered at least *some* of the changes/refinements/adjustments that are present in the 2020 AT/AS that are not in my '18. I know you have or had, limited time for a video. You covered what you thought was important. When I purchased my '18, it was only 10 months ago so, I had plenty of opportunity to pick up a 2020 over a new '18. But, the $7,000 price difference vs what I'd be getting over and or above an '18, simply didn't warrant it. I chose the '18 and have been seriously happy. I commend your video. Nice work. Scott
I absolutely loved my 2017 tri-color Africa twin until it got destroyed in an accident this November. Due to that accident I have about 4 months left until I can walk and ride again. However, yesterday I put money down on a new 2021 Africa Twin Adventure ES DTC. I’ll need the DTS as I’ve lost the ability to lift my left foot up at the ankle.
This was a great review format. Really well done. Actually like it a lot more than the written work. Hopefully no offense taken but figured you'd like to know. This is your format. Good job!
Looks Great! I would love to try the DCT., but, alas, I think its just too heavy for these old bones. I'm into light weight, now. Great review, Baldy! I liked all of the guest opinions you had, too. I think you have found an new career for yourself! (This is a guy, just using my wife's account).
Hi, great review of this brilliant machine - good to see different perspectives from different riders which really tested the bike thoroughly. The DCT gets such great reviews from those who have used it and Honda really seem to have the system dialled in so well. Ride safe. Stevee (Advrider forum name).
Great review Baldy, I have a 2018 Adventure Sport DCT. I use it on and off-road, near and far. It's made me a better (safer/smoother/faster) rider and still has more capability than my ability can exploit. If only it was electric...
thank you in advance for the video presented by the mythical Africa Twin which I have a crush on since my youth when she appeared but it was my "first love" as soon as I saw her. finally, not only is the acquisition of a 1100 L adventure, but also associated with it, a project that has everything to do with itself, which is going to the Dakar. I'm a very young motorcyclist (since 2015), with half a dozen Adventures where the longest was no more than 2000 km (I don't know the corresponding in miles). I hope to continue to see more videos of yours, besides Africa twin as a passion I am also a mechanic lover and everything I can do and adapt for my project, Dakar. thanks to all the stakeholders who helped me and gave ideas like the extra tank. greetings
The DCT is money when it comes to a bike this heavy! I have the 2019 ADV Sport and it is a different feeling altogether and I can't say enough about the balance. I agree that you focus more on the ride and less on the bike in the DCT version. I think it is important to remember that these are not oversized dirt bikes to compete on the MC circuit, they are to take you places most would normally never go and get you back again. If you want a dirt bike that rides on the street then get a Rally 300 but if you want a continent explorer, this is your beast!
Why do you think Harley hasn't made ADV and dual sport bikes? Their original message was all about freedom, exploring, being a nomad, ect. The new method of that ain't with highway cruisers anymore.
I work at an Indian dealership, that also carries dozens of brands, and used bikes. We have 3 of these. Doesn't matter who it is, what they do or what they rode in on... they all stare at the Africa Twin for at least 5 minutes, then they do it again before they leave. It gets more looks than our $40,000 Chieftain Elite (120 ever made worldwide). I don't blame anyone. They truly do it all, and especially in the looks department. Also, in fully automatic these "learn" your riding habits and eventually become near telepathic. I want one too, and so does everyone my friend.
Owner of a 2021 Africa Twin MANUAL 6speed with Kappa Panniers, GIVI racks and SW-Motech Crash bars, RAM cell mount, CREE LED lights out front, Peg rubber delete, NO REAR upper case, Rear fender eliminator and currently sitting on 1900 miles! Hard riding in the Ocala Fl national forest with major sugar sand, Crazy mud holes and hella nasty technical areas. The bike is a beast. Period. I have been riding all over past 34 years(riding years) in The deserts of Az and NV, the PNW of Washington and Oregon, Tennessee mountain's, Ohio Valleys and now all over Florida on alllll sorts of bikes. I've owned BMW, Triumph, Aprilla, Suzuki/Yamaha/Honda and even a few Buell's Nothing compares to the new Twin, NOTHING. It Pulls EXTREMELY hard off the line with smooth as butter throttle response and excellent clutch engagement(mine a manual). The brakes are on par with any super bike, The weight is there, but when you rip it as it feels like a 250cc dirtbike. Nimble, balanced and very well mannered. Balanced like a dang prop. The Settings take some getting use to and to turn OFF the baby sitter settings, you have to hold down the arrows till it zeros each one out...bam unlocked and ready to rock! The bad? ITS A BIG AZZ ADVENTURE BIKE, its going to be a pig in the deep stuff.. layed mine down in the sand a few times and not a scratch or scuff, back still works :) The nanny modes are a little annoying and bit me a few times when I forgot to redo them after shutting the bike down..restart the process again..Takes about 20 seconds of your life to do...no spilled milk here. The carplay kicks off on its own sometimes(I think its my phone, its been wet a few times). The stock tires are GREAT on road but TERRIBLE in loose stuff...Get some dirt rubber if you intend on playing hard off the pavement, I ordered a set of Anakee wilds...badazz tires on my other dual sports. I do NOT baby my stuff and load it down pretty heavy as I like to go REAL adventure riding and its avg 85 miles one way for me to go anywhere to offroad. The price OTD was $16,340 after taxes, 400 dealer fee and my helmet. I figure after the 16341 mile on it, its alllll miles and smiles on the freeby scale. Bike is paid for and if ou can afford to get one, DO IT...Good luck finding a manual though, alot of DCT out there, NO manuals. I got mine as they rolled it onto the sales floor and 3 people came in trying to buy it while I was waiting to do paperwork. Glad I had cash in hand, it would of been gone and I would still be on my KTM 890 adventure R....Love that bike also, DO NOT LOVE THE MAINTENANCE or the repairs..NO DEALERS around me and parts are like finding gold. Lol. Happy trails everyone!
I'm riding a 2017 base model AT and I am very seriously considering adding a 2021 or 22 model DCT version to my stable early next year. This video answered most of my questions in the first 10 minutes. Good job
I've had mine for three years now and it's been on quite a few long distance trips, the longest being 27 days around the east coast and back. It's a fantastic bike for that.
I have a 2018 Adventure Sports model (manual) and love the bike. I can’t wheelie it like in the video and don’t do extreme off-road riding on it. It is perfect for my 50 mile one way commute to work and for weekend to week long camping trips. It will probably be the last bike I ever buy.
Yesterday i could take a ride in the new Africa Twin ......very interesting . And i love all your comments !!!! DCT ......you have to get used too ❤ I own a 1992 Africa Twin .....and the new one are Worlds apart . Great bike for long rides !!!! With the gas .....is awfull sensible. Very interesting model and a lot of new tecnologies in it . Thanks for the video . Excellent . Love from Munich, Germany
Thanks for the insights Baldy! This RUclips content is an added bonus for me and why I like being a Super Supporter of the site. I look forward to the Ural review. I picked up one from another inmate this past summer. I’ve already had some great times running around here in the Rockies. - New Mexico Boondocker
Great review! I really liked my 2016 AT with the exception of when I needed to work on it. So many plastic clips! I felt like I was taking apart a car dashboard when pulling off that fairing.
Just picked up a 2020 DCT for commuting into central London and it’s perfect. More attention for what’s going on around me than a manual. I do wish the stock headlamp was a bit better though when it gets properly dark. I use a phone for nav too and hate the fact you need a Bluetooth headset in order to get a phone working properly with the main screen. The Honda panniers also scratch really easily but I’m nitpicking now!
Coming from a KLR to a 2020 base model AT, I am pretty happy after 300 miles of mixed terrain riding. The AT doesn't check every box, but it checks the right boxes.
A little clarity at 15:15. The fancy screen has a 20 second boot up time, but you don't have to wait on it. You can start and go immediately (just like any other bike).
Wow. Speechless. What a great review. Thank you so much for it. BTW: Personally I have just answered the question if I would buy one with a „yes“. Cannot wait to get it. Regards from Berlin, Germany.
@@advrider8447 I love it. I am really blown away, how good the bike is. Especially the electronic suspension does it for me - sporty on country roads and the autobahn, and relaxed and comfy when cruising or in the city. I have to wait for the lockdown to be lifted before I can make longer tours, so currently I just do day trips around Berlin - which is okay for getting used to the bike.
I have a 2018 Africa Twin adventure sport DCT myself. I had honda fix the issue with the fuel tank. I absolutely love this bike and I'd definitely buy again.
This was a fantastic video and I thoroughly enjoyed it. My 450l isn't going anywhere but I want something that eats pavement miles better. Starting the slow process of researching this and maybe a Tracer 900. My problem is when I'm out on pavement and I see an open dirt road I have a hard time not going!
I am looking at buying this model for a motorcycle sidecar adventure touring business where I will have a fully loaded AT equipped with boxes and carrying cases, as well as a custom manufactured, for 2 adults, sidecar attached to the bike. This video was a great look into what to expect from the 2020 version and how I can go into my business venture with confidence knowing the DCT or manual availability will work on mountain roads. Plus, the DCT will act as a extra brain with the terrain I will encounter and afford me some comfortability with my clientele. The wheelie control and traction control will also be a big factor of me purchasing this for my sidecar. COVID slowed me down on my business starting but I am back in action ands soon to be available in Colorado. Hope to see some of you out on the road and in the mountains.
This video was SUPER helpful for me; I'm 6'3 and I'm finally getting back into riding after about 5years away from it...wanted to make the switch into Adventure bikes but didn't know what to go with as a taller rider. Thanks!
@@tuanoful OOOooohhh good choice, I had an 03. Best bike I ever owned. I think the Afric Twin (16/17) will be almost as good on road, as the VStrom, AND almost as good (or possibly as good) off-road as a KTM950ADV. I did so many fun things on my VStrom, including road racing it and riding it through deep sand. What an incredibly versatile bike it was.
@@actstuntcam It really is, the only thing that annoys me, and this is literaly the only complaint I have, is that it is SO LOW to the ground that the skidplate is hitting even en speed bumps (in Mexico they are very common and some are dangerously vertical)
@@tuanoful Wow, I never had that issue with mine. As far as ADVs go they are quite low, but compared to a tourer, or sportsbike, they are quite tall. Those speed bumps must be severe.
Its great off road, no need to slip the clutch, you cant stall it, put it in full manual & use the brakes if you need to go extra slow in the same way you would feather the clutch on the manual. only drawback is you cant pop the clutch to get the front wheel up.
I’ve been riding over 53 years and I adapted to the DCT right away and love it. When off road, I put it into manual mode and turn off wheelie control. Works great for me.
Fantastic information you gave, I know honda from my childhood..couple of years back lots of companies start doing marketing..they made ma confuse which bike is better for adventure, long distance..but now watching your, and some other video..now again i start gaining confidence, on honda..this is very reliable machine...specially this africa twin dct model I love it..I will buy soon..thanks for putting efforts
I demo rode the newest DCT this January and liked it, as a loaner for the day I did not ride aggressively, well not too aggressively anyways and didn't take it into the shit, I think as a commuter, long distance tour, sometimes offroad bike I would consider it, but would need a little more seat time to really decide. Was a fun day though so that says something
The DCT is fantastic. I have had a AT model 2017, 2018 en now a have the 2020 model 1100L DCT. And if I want, I can still shift manuel. Honda is awesome and reliable !
I love my Super Tenere except for one thing, it hates sand and gravel. The 19" front tire just seems to sink. I get the pucker factor on it at times when it seems like the front tire is just going to stop. I'm told that the Africa eliminates this with the 21" front tire and it doesn't seem to affect highway riding. The Ten is a bit heavy, but not as heavy as some of the the other bikes I considered. I like using a clutch because it's exercise for my left hand. But admit as I grow older (67 now) the DCT's are making more sense. Great article.
Just review this again...I am still on the 2016 african twin riding it constantly to 15000 ft mountain roads, rough paved roads. I have 51000 KM on the bike now and it is still going very strong...I also have a trailer I pull all my belonging to a new area with the the twin pulls it around very well...With the type of pounding I give this bike the motor just does the job....My only beef with this bike is the parking brake with for some reason has a short life.....but the bike and frame just work for me....Perfect...
My first dct bike is my new honda goldwing touring bike, im looking at the new africa twin now and honestly well im not sure if i want the dct or 6speed as both are great. But like stated with the dct its true you do spend less time working with the bike and more time enjoying the ride but shifting with the bike is also part of the fun at times..
Been looking at buying a Africa twin for awhile now !! I own Ktm 450 exc getting to old for exc stuff at 6ft5 and 54 years old now thanks for clearing up on the DCT I’ve always rode manual bikes I live in cyprus 🌞😎
Friend of mine's kid was climbing around on his bike like the kid about 1:30, and the bike fell over, broke the kid. Kid is OK now, but had a neck brace for a couple months. Just be careful. Cool bike.
So, I have a 2022 AT AS manual. I am super interested in the DCT but as an off roader of 15 years only driving enduros, I was super skeptical because of how I use the gearing and clutch to do a lot of the work. This is super interesting to watch a very very experienced off-road guy handle this DCT. I will say on the topic of WC, I never have a problem letting it rip through 3rd gear manual shifting if the WC is set to the lowest setting. So that was interesting to see him struggle with the DCT. I use it for commuting daily and I go off-road regularly. I can immediately without trying it agree - DCT for daily commuters who want a distance touring bike. If you want hard off road, I'd still also probably end up on a manual. What I really wonder is what we'll see in the coming years of someone who learns to off-road on a DCT. Someone who started that way and didn't spend years doing it on a manual.
I've had my 2017 DCT Africa Twin for a year don't do any off road here in Scotland it's not really allowed anywhere here you guys are lucky , anyway it's a fabulous machine I'm very happy with mine...The DCT is too sluggish in drive mode I usually chose sport 1 or 2 the only mistake I made the second day I had the bike was blipping the throttle at traffic lights , damn near fell off it.
I love this bike and I was considering one but for me, as an older dude, I want a considerably lighter bike. I do a lot of off road touring with lots of dropping in soft sand. So I need something easy to pick up. I think a 450-500cc enduro would suit my needs better. I’m also considering electric dirt bike for pure off road fun and a small-medium sized petrol engine enduro or dual sport for longer trips, with a pillion and luggage.
The irony of the Gundam reference is that Tomino didn't want it to be red, white, blue and yellow either. It was something Bandai decided for selling/marketing the model kits which were big tie ins for the series both then and now. Personally I like the colors as they remind me of my Dad's old CBR which I have fond memories of even though in retrospect it was really boxy. Thanks for the video it was informative.
Fantastic, thank you. I may go back down the adventure riding road again, currently on BMW K1600GT , traded out my KTM 1290SA was a POS for long distance asphaltriding, I am once again considering my options. Thanks this review will see me take a peak at a 2020 African or possibly 2021. Cheers
I own honda crf 150L here in the Philippines. Wish i could afford to buy that africa twin in the future. Thanks for sharing this video. Ride safe! Watching here in the Philippines
Great review. It would be even nicer if your riding buddies had the 2018 model that had some improvements, being one of them the throttle by wire. I have the 2018 Adventure Sports with DCT. In my opinion looks more rugged and even sounds better than the newer 1100. On my channel you can see some of my weekend rides.
Had a couple of Urals in Ontario and love them, but the first fuel injected one was a lot of trips to the shop. Hope they are better now. But I am pissed of at Ural not having any dealer ships hear on the east coast of Canada, PEI is a great place for them. Lost of great roads paved, dirt and gravel , They should push and get more dealers set up, at 75 I would love to go back to a side car rig, but lack of dealer ships is a stopper.
Picking up mine in a couple of weeks. Manual with electronic suspension. I'd planned a quick shift too but after riding one with my wife on the back, which is a big reason for buying, I decided there wasn't much need especially for the b roads here where we hardly came out of 4th / 5th gear. It could hardly be more different to my Super Duke r and that's exactly what I wanted.
Awesome bike that is certainly on my possible next bike list, but it gets negative points for having loads of expensive electronics that I don't want and won't use. So it grates with me paying too much for stuff I don't want...
You do a great job with video and have a pleasant demeanor which ads to your credibility. Well done! I have a 2017 AT DCT and have it outfitted very similarly to the Wheelie king. :) Have 16,000 miles on it. Have ridden to Alaska from Texas, Top of the World Highway, Twisted Sisters, Tail of the Dragon, and portions of the TAT in Colorado on it. Love the DCT on the open highway. It does fine off road and gravel but I don't try to take it on crazy stuff. Not because of the DCT in particular but I just don't want to pick it up. Anytime we stop people immediately are drawn to it and want to talk about it. You could do about 90% of the TAT on it. Moab would present some challenges... White Rim Trail. Most passes in Colorado would be fine. Stoney or Black Bear would but tough but GET SOME! Not sure I'd ride the Baja on it but some places it would do just fine. Riding through Central America on a DCT would be fantastic. Orizaba, MX and especially Guatemala. Keep up the good work. Cute hound,
Subbed; Who knew you could make such great videos in addition to running one of my favorite, longest returning to Forum Boards? Outstanding Stuff! Keep up the great work. Re: The bike - I cherish the art that is mastering all the fine controls and interaction that creates the bond between Man and Machine through that one little [clutch] lever. HOWEVER, as I age and my Ankles, Hands, and Wrists become increasingly stiff and painful (from all that previous interaction and resultant Adventures - for good and occasionally bad) The DCT just might be the answer to extending my time in the saddle going into the future. Will I trade in my beloved '14 GSA Premium for it ? ...only time, and perhaps a few more dips in Barometric Pressure will tell. Cheers !
Thinking about condensing down to one bike from a metric cruiser and a drz 400s to either an africa twin, ktm adventure 890r, or tenere 700. No one does demo rides on any of the bike which has pretty much been a hard stop. I get they don't need the sales currently, but the dealers could at least pretend to care about selling a bike.
I worked for Cycle world magazine in the 90's, and have been riding all my life. I badly injured my left hand, and can no longer "effectively" use a clutch. Looking like this is going to be my next bike since it has a DCT version. Great video. I love the candor, editing, and slow-mo sections, Excellent job.
I also had a work accident, and I lost 2 fingers on my left hand. Kept riding with a clutch for a while but riding the dct for a year now really openend my eyes!! Its amazing!
I'm looking at that new Rebel 1100 for the same reason. Nerve damage in my left hand turns it into a claw at the most inopportune moments - usually when trying to play guitar. That would be bad news if it happened and I needed to squeeze a clutch.
Great video! I have the 2020 Africa twin adventure sports DCT ES (that’s a mouthful). After riding with a manual clutch for over 40yrs, I was hesitant with owning an “automatic”. I rode a friends 2019 DCT for about 30 minutes and was pleasantly surprised. The first 10 min, I was on tour mode and wasn’t impressed with power delivery. It seemed too sluggish and I thought “why would I buy this dog?”... the last 15 minutes, in sport mode, what a difference! The bike really came alive once I had the settings somewhat figured out. A week later, I was picking up the new 2020!
I think it’s easy to knock the DCT if you haven’t ridden it. Once a person gets some seat time, it’s easy to see the future of motorcycles. Is it perfect? No. Is it an example of the evolution of motorcycling? Most definitely! One has to buy the bike for their particular ride. In more technical off road riding, a manual will still be the preferred final drive. Most riders of these bikes will be doing long highway miles and light to moderate off roading so you’ll see the trend moving to a majority of DCT final drives. It’s a niche market.... I see the Africa twins for the highway tourers and the majority of hard core off road riders will gravitate to a more off road oriented, simpler bike such as the Yamaha Tenere 700.
I do agree with the Africa twin tires, they are 90% a street tire and a little too sketchy for gravel and off road. That’s why I have a set of Mitas E-07’s sitting in the garage beside the Africa twin. I apologize for the long winded opinion.
Thanks Randy! I am enamoured with the 2021 Africa Twin 1100 DCT.
This was quite useful.
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If you want an Africa Twin for hardcore off road riding, you're better off with the original model, last built in 2003. It's a 750cc V-twin engine with a bunch of torque right from idle, and with studded tyres it's a fine machine for off-roading right off the bat.
Great final product Baldy. Pleasure being a part of it with you.
I've had that exact bike since April 2020. It's absolutely fantastic. I wasn't entirely sure I'd enjoy DCT but bought it anyway and I love it! You do have to get used to dragging your rear brake on slow technical maneuvers, but that's relatively quick to master.
The only things that are wacky about DCT - and probably the most dangerous until you adapt - are the bike being in "native neutral" when not moving. This means if you're doing a technical hill climb and things go awry, you don't have the option to just kill it and let the gearing hold the bike. Also means if parked on a hill you MUST use the parking brake.
The other weird DCT-ism is having to REALLY master throttle input, since you can't modulate throttle with a clutch. In practical terms, this means if you stumble or get jostled on a technical track and go whisky throttle, you're in for one hell of a ride followed by a likely trip to the hospital. You'll find yourself really using that finger leverage off your brake handle to make sure your throttle input is just so.
The electronics are great, though they certainly take some getting used to. I'm happy now that they've upgraded the system to accept Android Auto as well as Apple CarPlay. And know that if you want to toggle between CarPlay/Auto and the primary dash screen, you can; it's just a quick flick on one of the switches to jump back and forth.
I've had it in some pretty stupid places and out on a MX track and it's WAY more capable than I am!
Great review!
I test rode the DCT, and while i picked the manual, i love that Honda offers the DCT. Like you said, its a little odd at first in slow speed situations, but you use the rear brake and it all seems to work. If you rode in a place with traffic, DCT would be a godsend.
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I sold my two previous Africas (manual and DCT) and bought this brand new 1100 DCT ES after test ride. It is absolutely awesome bike.
Now this is how you do a review! Best parts were interviewing owners who actually used the motorcycle and not only for coffee shop runs.
This is a phenomenal review. I love the personalities, the editing, the footage, the candor...it's so much of what I want in reviews
Thanks John! I’m kicking myself for not including Ed’s account of his 8-hour ride on a difficult logging road to Jasper and how well the DCT worked.
@@advrider8447 I'd love to watch a whole episode just on DCT - or non-clutch transmissions more broadly - to get a better understanding of the trade-offs, surprises, and optimal use cases. You have commentary on this here and in your Zero Black Forest video, but I imagine you could talk intelligently and fascinatingly about this for quite a while.
Got mine in December after 10 years with BMW GS and RT, mine is DCT and electronic suspension, adventure version ... wonderful bike, love it, i am 6foot 3 and it feels very comfortable, added Touratech crash protection, DCT IS AMAZING !!!
Me too 👍🇦🇹
on a tricky trail, just put the DCT in manual and also use the rear brake - DCT is AWESOME 😍
Still not the same as having a clutch to control the power.
Bought the same ride last year. Drove through a big part of BC Canada and my local Rockie mountains compiling 9000kms. Absolutely love everything about it! DCT and electronic suspension work amazingly for me. I'm a dirt rider also, and mountain sledder. The ATASes is just a different style of bike to learn and adjust to, but once you understand it, it's a dream! I'm California dreaming on a winter's day, with covid gone away, lol. Thanks to everyone for sharing. Well done eh :-) 🇨🇦
Really good vid. I'm going to buy a 2020 Version of the AT but not the DCT. I tested it, but for me it was the feeling to loose control over the switch points. After 30 Years riding, this will be my fifth Honda an I'm really impressed of the reliability of this bikes. And the Design of the AT is outstanding.
Great review Baldy. I have the 2017 manual and love it. Rode a 2018 DCT on a trip and loved it too.
Watched this a while back, and now I'm watching again after buying a new one.
Same here!!
Same. I bought the basic, flat black, DCT. I love it. And it’s a beautiful bike.
I also ride the Africa Twin in Japan. It's big and heavy, but it's a very good bike 👍
Hi Baldy great review I have a 2017 manual really lucky to pick it up at Huntington Beach Honda in June 2019 the red black white model for $9349.00 I was on the hunt for left over 2018 klr650's just couldn't pass up that deal the AT will make you a better dirt rider or kill ya, I'm still kicking so my lowly dirt skills are improving every time I drop this monster.
Well damn, I haven’t wanted any new bike since the Motus first came out and now I’m Jonesing for one of these. Thanks for the well done review Baldy.
I really appreciate your view and perspective on the bike, especially the parts about the DCT and the fact that you mention some of the problems that this model could have and has had in the past. As someone who is in the market for an adventure sport and will most likely end up with either a Super Ténéré or an Africa Twin, this review was very helpful. I find that too many owners, and even some reviewers, are not very subjective and sometimes overlook problems and shortcomings when discussing a bike they have purchased, or prefer. Any additional advice or guidance would be appreciated!
At 57 years old I will seriously consider a DCT. Throw in the fact that it is a Honda and it basically sells its self.
This was an excellent review. I really liked how you brought in new-to-the-bike riders as well as long term riders. I did not expect to learn anything, but the variety of opinions made this review better than anything else out there. Keep it up!
Thanks! I do feel that getting the perspective of real owners is great.
Well Sir,
It was a good video. Pretty informative. I myself could care less about wheelies. Never have. I just enjoy riding, mostly on road but, I also like forest service roads, light duty trails etc. I'm not into the torcher-the-bike AND myself stuff. Been there, done that. I have an '18 AT/AS/DCT and love it to death. I've been shifting transmissions for 55+ years. When I took a test ride on the DCT, it took me all of about 2 city blocks, IN THE D MODE, to convince me the DCT was/is for me.
I didn't have to ride it for a thousand miles like what was suggested by some folks. The performance of that DCT is to me, flawless. Anyway, Your video was good and covered at least *some* of the changes/refinements/adjustments that are present in the 2020 AT/AS that are not in my '18. I know you have or had, limited time for a video. You covered what you thought was important. When I purchased my '18, it was only 10 months ago so, I had plenty of opportunity to pick up a 2020 over a new '18. But, the $7,000 price difference vs what I'd be getting over and or above an '18, simply didn't warrant it. I chose the '18 and have been seriously happy. I commend your video. Nice work.
Scott
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I absolutely loved my 2017 tri-color Africa twin until it got destroyed in an accident this November. Due to that accident I have about 4 months left until I can walk and ride again. However, yesterday I put money down on a new 2021 Africa Twin Adventure ES DTC. I’ll need the DTS as I’ve lost the ability to lift my left foot up at the ankle.
This was a great review format. Really well done. Actually like it a lot more than the written work. Hopefully no offense taken but figured you'd like to know. This is your format. Good job!
Looks Great! I would love to try the DCT., but, alas, I think its just too heavy for these old bones. I'm into light weight, now. Great review, Baldy! I liked all of the guest opinions you had, too. I think you have found an new career for yourself! (This is a guy, just using my wife's account).
Hi, great review of this brilliant machine - good to see different perspectives from different riders which really tested the bike thoroughly.
The DCT gets such great reviews from those who have used it and Honda really seem to have the system dialled in so well.
Ride safe.
Stevee (Advrider forum name).
That apple car play display is the best thing ever for wandering down the streets of new cities.
Great review Baldy, I have a 2018 Adventure Sport DCT. I use it on and off-road, near and far. It's made me a better (safer/smoother/faster) rider and still has more capability than my ability can exploit. If only it was electric...
awesome review!! really great that you got the aspect of older versions of the DCT system included. Cheers..
17 dct, and love it.best bike I've ridden. Not over wired. Mefo superexplorer tires. Keeping it but also want 600ish africa twin! Good review
If I was buying as first time africa twin, yes likely 2020 ATAS ES DCT
thank you in advance for the video presented by the mythical Africa Twin which I have a crush on since my youth when she appeared but it was my "first love" as soon as I saw her. finally, not only is the acquisition of a 1100 L adventure, but also associated with it, a project that has everything to do with itself, which is going to the Dakar. I'm a very young motorcyclist (since 2015), with half a dozen Adventures where the longest was no more than 2000 km (I don't know the corresponding in miles). I hope to continue to see more videos of yours, besides Africa twin as a passion I am also a mechanic lover and everything I can do and adapt for my project, Dakar. thanks to all the stakeholders who helped me and gave ideas like the extra tank. greetings
The DCT is money when it comes to a bike this heavy! I have the 2019 ADV Sport and it is a different feeling altogether and I can't say enough about the balance. I agree that you focus more on the ride and less on the bike in the DCT version. I think it is important to remember that these are not oversized dirt bikes to compete on the MC circuit, they are to take you places most would normally never go and get you back again. If you want a dirt bike that rides on the street then get a Rally 300 but if you want a continent explorer, this is your beast!
I have a 2019 and LOVE it. I'm a hard core Harley guy BUT these bikes are just amazing
Why do you think Harley hasn't made ADV and dual sport bikes? Their original message was all about freedom, exploring, being a nomad, ect. The new method of that ain't with highway cruisers anymore.
@@Noadvantage246 they have made an adventure bike its called the Pan America looks half decent specs wise too,
I work at an Indian dealership, that also carries dozens of brands, and used bikes.
We have 3 of these. Doesn't matter who it is, what they do or what they rode in on... they all stare at the Africa Twin for at least 5 minutes, then they do it again before they leave.
It gets more looks than our $40,000 Chieftain Elite (120 ever made worldwide). I don't blame anyone. They truly do it all, and especially in the looks department. Also, in fully automatic these "learn" your riding habits and eventually become near telepathic. I want one too, and so does everyone my friend.
I miss those Bay Area back roads! Some of the best street riding there is.
Owner of a 2021 Africa Twin MANUAL 6speed with Kappa Panniers, GIVI racks and SW-Motech Crash bars, RAM cell mount, CREE LED lights out front, Peg rubber delete, NO REAR upper case, Rear fender eliminator and currently sitting on 1900 miles! Hard riding in the Ocala Fl national forest with major sugar sand, Crazy mud holes and hella nasty technical areas. The bike is a beast. Period.
I have been riding all over past 34 years(riding years) in The deserts of Az and NV, the PNW of Washington and Oregon, Tennessee mountain's, Ohio Valleys and now all over Florida on alllll sorts of bikes. I've owned BMW, Triumph, Aprilla, Suzuki/Yamaha/Honda and even a few Buell's Nothing compares to the new Twin, NOTHING. It Pulls EXTREMELY hard off the line with smooth as butter throttle response and excellent clutch engagement(mine a manual). The brakes are on par with any super bike, The weight is there, but when you rip it as it feels like a 250cc dirtbike. Nimble, balanced and very well mannered. Balanced like a dang prop. The Settings take some getting use to and to turn OFF the baby sitter settings, you have to hold down the arrows till it zeros each one out...bam unlocked and ready to rock!
The bad?
ITS A BIG AZZ ADVENTURE BIKE, its going to be a pig in the deep stuff.. layed mine down in the sand a few times and not a scratch or scuff, back still works :)
The nanny modes are a little annoying and bit me a few times when I forgot to redo them after shutting the bike down..restart the process again..Takes about 20 seconds of your life to do...no spilled milk here. The carplay kicks off on its own sometimes(I think its my phone, its been wet a few times). The stock tires are GREAT on road but TERRIBLE in loose stuff...Get some dirt rubber if you intend on playing hard off the pavement, I ordered a set of Anakee wilds...badazz tires on my other dual sports. I do NOT baby my stuff and load it down pretty heavy as I like to go REAL adventure riding and its avg 85 miles one way for me to go anywhere to offroad. The price OTD was $16,340 after taxes, 400 dealer fee and my helmet. I figure after the 16341 mile on it, its alllll miles and smiles on the freeby scale. Bike is paid for and if ou can afford to get one, DO IT...Good luck finding a manual though, alot of DCT out there, NO manuals. I got mine as they rolled it onto the sales floor and 3 people came in trying to buy it while I was waiting to do paperwork. Glad I had cash in hand, it would of been gone and I would still be on my KTM 890 adventure R....Love that bike also, DO NOT LOVE THE MAINTENANCE or the repairs..NO DEALERS around me and parts are like finding gold. Lol. Happy trails everyone!
I'm riding a 2017 base model AT and I am very seriously considering adding a 2021 or 22 model DCT version to my stable early next year. This video answered most of my questions in the first 10 minutes. Good job
You bought the dct?
I've had mine for three years now and it's been on quite a few long distance trips, the longest being 27 days around the east coast and back. It's a fantastic bike for that.
Make sure you use sport 3 mode and also G mode on!! Makes huge difference
I have a 2018 Adventure Sports model (manual) and love the bike. I can’t wheelie it like in the video and don’t do extreme off-road riding on it. It is perfect for my 50 mile one way commute to work and for weekend to week long camping trips. It will probably be the last bike I ever buy.
I really like the African twin, if I were not retired on a limited income I would have one. When I buy the manual or the DCT, DCT definitely.
Yesterday i could take a ride in the new Africa Twin ......very interesting .
And i love all your comments !!!!
DCT ......you have to get used too ❤
I own a 1992 Africa Twin .....and the new one are Worlds apart .
Great bike for long rides !!!!
With the gas .....is awfull sensible.
Very interesting model and a lot of new tecnologies in it .
Thanks for the video . Excellent .
Love from Munich, Germany
Thanks for the insights Baldy! This RUclips content is an added bonus for me and why I like being a Super Supporter of the site. I look forward to the Ural review. I picked up one from another inmate this past summer. I’ve already had some great times running around here in the Rockies. - New Mexico Boondocker
Awesome!!
The red, white and blue colourway is by far my favourite.
Great review! I really liked my 2016 AT with the exception of when I needed to work on it. So many plastic clips! I felt like I was taking apart a car dashboard when pulling off that fairing.
Just picked up a 2020 DCT for commuting into central London and it’s perfect. More attention for what’s going on around me than a manual. I do wish the stock headlamp was a bit better though when it gets properly dark. I use a phone for nav too and hate the fact you need a Bluetooth headset in order to get a phone working properly with the main screen. The Honda panniers also scratch really easily but I’m nitpicking now!
Top notch presentation of the 2020 Africa Twin DCT
I love my 18AS, pushing 22k on it and its still a great smooth bike(manual). I am glad Honda finally decide to recall the fuel tank on the AS
Coming from a KLR to a 2020 base model AT, I am pretty happy after 300 miles of mixed terrain riding. The AT doesn't check every box, but it checks the right boxes.
I just tried a 2019 Africa Twin DCT here in NO,La. and I was smiling the whole time. My regular is a 2015 Yamaha FJ-09!
A little clarity at 15:15. The fancy screen has a 20 second boot up time, but you don't have to wait on it. You can start and go immediately (just like any other bike).
Never again.... now T7!!! Im happy now!!
Wow. Speechless. What a great review. Thank you so much for it. BTW: Personally I have just answered the question if I would buy one with a „yes“. Cannot wait to get it. Regards from Berlin, Germany.
Thanks! Would love to hear how you like it.
@@advrider8447 I love it. I am really blown away, how good the bike is. Especially the electronic suspension does it for me - sporty on country roads and the autobahn, and relaxed and comfy when cruising or in the city. I have to wait for the lockdown to be lifted before I can make longer tours, so currently I just do day trips around Berlin - which is okay for getting used to the bike.
I have a 2018 Africa Twin adventure sport DCT myself. I had honda fix the issue with the fuel tank. I absolutely love this bike and I'd definitely buy again.
love the review and displaying the dash instead of every other review just complaining about it.
This was a fantastic video and I thoroughly enjoyed it. My 450l isn't going anywhere but I want something that eats pavement miles better. Starting the slow process of researching this and maybe a Tracer 900. My problem is when I'm out on pavement and I see an open dirt road I have a hard time not going!
I am looking at buying this model for a motorcycle sidecar adventure touring business where I will have a fully loaded AT equipped with boxes and carrying cases, as well as a custom manufactured, for 2 adults, sidecar attached to the bike. This video was a great look into what to expect from the 2020 version and how I can go into my business venture with confidence knowing the DCT or manual availability will work on mountain roads. Plus, the DCT will act as a extra brain with the terrain I will encounter and afford me some comfortability with my clientele. The wheelie control and traction control will also be a big factor of me purchasing this for my sidecar. COVID slowed me down on my business starting but I am back in action ands soon to be available in Colorado. Hope to see some of you out on the road and in the mountains.
This video was SUPER helpful for me; I'm 6'3 and I'm finally getting back into riding after about 5years away from it...wanted to make the switch into Adventure bikes but didn't know what to go with as a taller rider. Thanks!
Good review! Thanks! It fully confirms my choice for the Africa Twin DCT version! I have the red 2019 version.
I would love that bike, but I'm poor
Buy a 2016/17, it is a better bike at half the price.
@@actstuntcam maybe for my next bike, got a strom now
@@tuanoful OOOooohhh good choice, I had an 03. Best bike I ever owned. I think the Afric Twin (16/17) will be almost as good on road, as the VStrom, AND almost as good (or possibly as good) off-road as a KTM950ADV. I did so many fun things on my VStrom, including road racing it and riding it through deep sand. What an incredibly versatile bike it was.
@@actstuntcam It really is, the only thing that annoys me, and this is literaly the only complaint I have, is that it is SO LOW to the ground that the skidplate is hitting even en speed bumps (in Mexico they are very common and some are dangerously vertical)
@@tuanoful Wow, I never had that issue with mine. As far as ADVs go they are quite low, but compared to a tourer, or sportsbike, they are quite tall. Those speed bumps must be severe.
The DCT offroad must take a while to get used to... most of offride riding consistes of a lot of clutch work, there is a learning curve there
Its great off road, no need to slip the clutch, you cant stall it, put it in full manual & use the brakes if you need to go extra slow in the same way you would feather the clutch on the manual. only drawback is you cant pop the clutch to get the front wheel up.
I’ve been riding over 53 years and I adapted to the DCT right away and love it. When off road, I put it into manual mode and turn off wheelie control. Works great for me.
Fantastic information you gave, I know honda from my childhood..couple of years back lots of companies start doing marketing..they made ma confuse which bike is better for adventure, long distance..but now watching your, and some other video..now again i start gaining confidence, on honda..this is very reliable machine...specially this africa twin dct model I love it..I will buy soon..thanks for putting efforts
Sold me on everything but the DCT. Picked it up Tuesday.
Better than a GS imho love it I do have the manual version though with no electronic suspension
I love my 2019 AT! It really does turn heads!
I have so much respect for this motorcycle.. its really an incredible machine.
Great review, Baldy. I have the 2020 ATAS manual and absolutely love it! Great bike!
16 DCT! Love it! 👍🏻🎉🎯 34th bike I’ve owned. You just have to master it like anything else.
I demo rode the newest DCT this January and liked it, as a loaner for the day I did not ride aggressively, well not too aggressively anyways and didn't take it into the shit, I think as a commuter, long distance tour, sometimes offroad bike I would consider it, but would need a little more seat time to really decide. Was a fun day though so that says something
The DCT is fantastic. I have had a AT model 2017, 2018 en now a have the 2020 model 1100L DCT. And if I want, I can still shift manuel. Honda is awesome and reliable !
100% loved this review. Tanks guys. Ride safe and ride often.
I love my Super Tenere except for one thing, it hates sand and gravel. The 19" front tire just seems to sink. I get the pucker factor on it at times when it seems like the front tire is just going to stop. I'm told that the Africa eliminates this with the 21" front tire and it doesn't seem to affect highway riding. The Ten is a bit heavy, but not as heavy as some of the the other bikes I considered. I like using a clutch because it's exercise for my left hand. But admit as I grow older (67 now) the DCT's are making more sense. Great article.
Just review this again...I am still on the 2016 african twin riding it constantly to 15000 ft mountain roads, rough paved roads. I have 51000 KM on the bike now and it is still going very strong...I also have a trailer I pull all my belonging to a new area with the the twin pulls it around very well...With the type of pounding I give this bike the motor just does the job....My only beef with this bike is the parking brake with for some reason has a short life.....but the bike and frame just work for me....Perfect...
My first dct bike is my new honda goldwing touring bike, im looking at the new africa twin now and honestly well im not sure if i want the dct or 6speed as both are great. But like stated with the dct its true you do spend less time working with the bike and more time enjoying the ride but shifting with the bike is also part of the fun at times..
Been looking at buying a Africa twin for awhile now !! I own Ktm 450 exc getting to old for exc stuff at 6ft5 and 54 years old now thanks for clearing up on the DCT I’ve always rode manual bikes I live in cyprus 🌞😎
Friend of mine's kid was climbing around on his bike like the kid about 1:30, and the bike fell over, broke the kid. Kid is OK now, but had a neck brace for a couple months. Just be careful. Cool bike.
So, I have a 2022 AT AS manual. I am super interested in the DCT but as an off roader of 15 years only driving enduros, I was super skeptical because of how I use the gearing and clutch to do a lot of the work. This is super interesting to watch a very very experienced off-road guy handle this DCT.
I will say on the topic of WC, I never have a problem letting it rip through 3rd gear manual shifting if the WC is set to the lowest setting. So that was interesting to see him struggle with the DCT.
I use it for commuting daily and I go off-road regularly. I can immediately without trying it agree - DCT for daily commuters who want a distance touring bike. If you want hard off road, I'd still also probably end up on a manual.
What I really wonder is what we'll see in the coming years of someone who learns to off-road on a DCT. Someone who started that way and didn't spend years doing it on a manual.
They should have Noraly "itchy boots" reviewing bikes. She's the undisputed expert if their ever was one. She out rides most men. She is tough.
She sure put all men riders to shame. Awesome lady.
I really love the bike. Im not sure why I've never seen them until this morning. I'm in love and gotta get one.
I've had my 2017 DCT Africa Twin for a year don't do any off road here in Scotland it's not really allowed anywhere here you guys are lucky , anyway it's a fabulous machine I'm very happy with mine...The DCT is too sluggish in drive mode I usually chose sport 1 or 2 the only mistake I made the second day I had the bike was blipping the throttle at traffic lights , damn near fell off it.
great review thankyou again again
Joao from Portugal. Great film this yours. Not so tecnical but Genuine. Congratulations from Portugal. Come and see us.
I absolutely love this bike......Traveling serious country Peru and this is the bike to be riding
Way to go Baldy, DakarBlues here
I love this bike and I was considering one but for me, as an older dude, I want a considerably lighter bike. I do a lot of off road touring with lots of dropping in soft sand. So I need something easy to pick up. I think a 450-500cc enduro would suit my needs better. I’m also considering electric dirt bike for pure off road fun and a small-medium sized petrol engine enduro or dual sport for longer trips, with a pillion and luggage.
The irony of the Gundam reference is that Tomino didn't want it to be red, white, blue and yellow either. It was something Bandai decided for selling/marketing the model kits which were big tie ins for the series both then and now. Personally I like the colors as they remind me of my Dad's old CBR which I have fond memories of even though in retrospect it was really boxy.
Thanks for the video it was informative.
Great review and video production! Thanks!
Fantastic, thank you. I may go back down the adventure riding road again, currently on BMW K1600GT , traded out my KTM 1290SA was a POS for long distance asphaltriding, I am once again considering my options. Thanks this review will see me take a peak at a 2020 African or possibly 2021.
Cheers
I own honda crf 150L here in the Philippines. Wish i could afford to buy that africa twin in the future. Thanks for sharing this video. Ride safe! Watching here in the Philippines
Again, thank you for the most excellent video.
Great Action shots 👍...Enjoyed your video.
Damn this was a good review. Please keep making them.
Great review. It would be even nicer if your riding buddies had the 2018 model that had some improvements, being one of them the throttle by wire.
I have the 2018 Adventure Sports with DCT. In my opinion looks more rugged and even sounds better than the newer 1100. On my channel you can see some of my weekend rides.
Had a couple of Urals in Ontario and love them, but the first fuel injected one was a lot of trips to the shop. Hope they are better now. But I am pissed of at Ural not having any dealer ships hear on the east coast of Canada, PEI is a great place for them. Lost of great roads paved, dirt and gravel , They should push and get more dealers set up, at 75 I would love to go back to a side car rig, but lack of dealer ships is a stopper.
Picking up mine in a couple of weeks. Manual with electronic suspension. I'd planned a quick shift too but after riding one with my wife on the back, which is a big reason for buying, I decided there wasn't much need especially for the b roads here where we hardly came out of 4th / 5th gear. It could hardly be more different to my Super Duke r and that's exactly what I wanted.
Great review. I too am torn between this or a Zero as a daily commuter in town. Decisions.....
@ 17:20 I accept that challenge, let’s make it happen my man!
Awesome bike that is certainly on my possible next bike list, but it gets negative points for having loads of expensive electronics that I don't want and won't use. So it grates with me paying too much for stuff I don't want...
Choose the base model, it’s much cheaper too
You do a great job with video and have a pleasant demeanor which ads to your credibility. Well done! I have a 2017 AT DCT and have it outfitted very similarly to the Wheelie king. :) Have 16,000 miles on it. Have ridden to Alaska from Texas, Top of the World Highway, Twisted Sisters, Tail of the Dragon, and portions of the TAT in Colorado on it. Love the DCT on the open highway. It does fine off road and gravel but I don't try to take it on crazy stuff. Not because of the DCT in particular but I just don't want to pick it up. Anytime we stop people immediately are drawn to it and want to talk about it. You could do about 90% of the TAT on it. Moab would present some challenges... White Rim Trail. Most passes in Colorado would be fine. Stoney or Black Bear would but tough but GET SOME! Not sure I'd ride the Baja on it but some places it would do just fine. Riding through Central America on a DCT would be fantastic. Orizaba, MX and especially Guatemala. Keep up the good work. Cute hound,
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Subbed; Who knew you could make such great videos in addition to running one of my favorite, longest returning to Forum Boards? Outstanding Stuff! Keep up the great work. Re: The bike - I cherish the art that is mastering all the fine controls and interaction that creates the bond between Man and Machine through that one little [clutch] lever. HOWEVER, as I age and my Ankles, Hands, and Wrists become increasingly stiff and painful (from all that previous interaction and resultant Adventures - for good and occasionally bad) The DCT just might be the answer to extending my time in the saddle going into the future. Will I trade in my beloved '14 GSA Premium for it ? ...only time, and perhaps a few more dips in Barometric Pressure will tell. Cheers !
Thinking about condensing down to one bike from a metric cruiser and a drz 400s to either an africa twin, ktm adventure 890r, or tenere 700. No one does demo rides on any of the bike which has pretty much been a hard stop. I get they don't need the sales currently, but the dealers could at least pretend to care about selling a bike.