Random Japanese here. It's not just him recording the dead body, all of his other rude/inappropriate actions following up to the dead body is what made a lot of us very angry. Even without the dead body incident, he still would have gotten in trouble. I guess most people never believed that he had really changed. He was just "toning things down" for a bit so people will hopefully forget, and as soon as he felt he was clear, he just went back to his usual sh*t.
@@timkimmeritz5973 It's not really about the culture, if he acted the same way in ANY place he would have gotten in trouble. Let's see, it' been a while but what I remember is: he left raw fish in the back of a taxi, he broke several items in a store, he went to the fish market and went to places he was not allowed to enter, he hopped on a truck which he did not get the permission to board (I bet he didn't have the permission to film that either), also I didn't watch the entire thing but he acted like an idiot at the Asakusa temple and I do remember his interpreter apologizing to the staffs in the back while he just stood there. There were a good number of Japanese youtubers who made really angry videos about the whole thing. He should have apologized to the dead man's family and the man's grave in person. NOBODY in Japan gave a shit about his apology video in fact I bet most people don't even know that stupid video exists. Unless he visits Japan again and apologize to every single person he mocked, he won't be forgiven here.
I saw the whole Japan video when he first put it out. He was a very disrespectful annoying obnoxious prick who openly insulted Japan and Japanese culture. It made my blood boil and I'm not even Japanese or have any connection with Japan.
@@zzzeus78 Don't forget going around town streets and yelling loudly and throwing a poke all pillow at random people. Which rightfully got him very negative looks. I'm just glad the Japanese people understand the he is not the representative of average respectable American behavior.
It should be normal for people to be able to change and turn around. That's why people gave him a 2nd chance. Thinking maybe someday he'll mature for good. But turns out yeah you're right, this is the guy's true colors
He really did seem like he had changed, I didn't watch his content but I had respected him. So hearing that he scammed a lot of people was jawbreaking and now I have no choice but to shit on him now.
@@Althenticity He never changed. He just rebranded and switched his content to fit a slightly older audience, still playing the game and still always a scumbag, just with added virtue signalling
@@Ryanlani221 YES this is even worse, cuz be tricked everyone by rebranding him self, he and his lil gang would sell their mothers for a little bit of clout, i hope he suffers
@@Althenticity but it was basically just one scam aftet another and people falling to it with the logic that he has enough money that he doesn't need to scam
It was obvious a decade ago. But, I’ve heard that the story on the street was that he had changed, he had reformed. And yknow what? If someone is truly putting in the effort to change, I don’t think we should immediately doubt them just based on their past actions But well…Logan threw it away. He evidently hasn’t changed, he just got smarter and more sinister. The story was a lie, and he threw away his second chance.
Logan is the guy who will hear an idea, then immediately regurgitate it as his own idea as if he just came up with it. Coffee asked him to chat, then Logan's mirror neurons activated and he spat the invite right back at him.
The fact that all it took for the internet to completely forgive Logan is him acting like a normal person on his podcast is insane to me. The internet is so gullible
Alot of people didn't think he changed until 2020 around the time George Floyd died. Logan said a passionate speech that went viral and made people who didn't like him look at him differently and then they started to respect him
FINALLY! Someone who sees through his nice guy act that is so obviously put on...He is still the exact same dirtbag he was when he went to the Forrest it's just he knows how to act in front of a camera now.
@@D1sappo1ntmentPanda I disagree but i see your point of view, i see someone showing someone hanging to kids less then 5 year old is worse especially to people with depression
The internet is kind of vapid I guess? Like, he did the podcast and boxing tournament stuff then people were just like "Oh, I guess he's totally cleansed of all his past sins now, did you know he made a Sports Drink??? omggg" Nevermind all the shady stuff he did prior to that.
His shithead brother eclipsed him so hard in being more of an obviously obnoxious douche for a while so maybe it was hard for some ppl to notice/remember, I guess
Honestly, if it's that easy for someone to be forgiven, it kinda proves the morality of people in America, because there's a good chance they would probably do the same thing if not worse for some attention and fortune.
@@KireTheOne lol, i've never done such a thing, and there are millions of people who are the same way. Speak for yourself. Stop projecting your behaviors onto others, it's just you and others like you. Neither of us have any empirical data whatsoever what the majority or generality of America would do.
I was honestly baffled anyone would invest in anything he promotes, let alone is the creator of as well. Especially considering he has a track record of scam projects even before the launch of this "game".
I feel like the ultimate strategy for NFTs was "Let's all scam at the same time and hope some of us get away with it!" Thankfully with their imaginary market crashing and investigators like Coffeezilla coming into play, they're not.
Something my uncle told me a long time ago is the worth or value of anything is what people are willing to pay for it. Living by that it doesn’t surprise me that this whole nft thing is just a loss. I don’t know anyone willing to pay anything for a virtual image…
NFTs are useless. If I want an NFT, I just screenshot it and now I have it. I don't understand how anyone would think this would work out. It's like they somehow don't understand the internet, despite depending on the internet.
Jaka and Logan have this awesome dynamic where one messes up and then than the other one messes up worse so the other looks better, and they keep doing it and they’re still going
Jake doesn't look good in this situation as he is a bigger scammer than Logan man has been scamming his audience since team 10. I would expect something like this from Jake but not from Logan who hasn't scammed his fans until now
i love how muta is still apologizing for the established titles thing while youtubers like heavy d sparks are risking their channel by defending them and their actions in exchange for cash
@@taken_over3416 it was pretty freaking bad. This sort of retcon that it was always just sold as a gag gift, never made any sense. And I think it's quite telling that the only people that have been defending it are the biggest charlatans like Spencer Cornelia.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 I mean that’s true but at the end of the day it’s just the “have a star named after you or your loved one” trope repackaged. I think that the scummiest part was probably the mass social media marketing campaign targeting younger/more impressionable people without the life experience to see it for what it, imo, obviously was.
@@taken_over3416 i mean, they sell a gag gift that was always a gag gift and i harbor no ill will to people taking sponsorships from them. I honestly can't believe anyone ever thought it was anything else. But, at the end of the day, when the hive mind has agreed that something is bad, doubling down and still taking money from it probably isn't the best for your reputation lol
And here I thought the Pauls have finally decided to just fade into obscurity and just live a quiet life as a couple of rich guys. How foolish was I to assume they had ever stopped their bs, truly the grind never stops.
@@EvanRecka98 Ah, yes. The Pauls, known for appreciating their audience by scamming them out of their money. Such shining examples of altruism. I hope you're joking and I'm getting whooshed hardcore.
That would be the optimal choice, that they (Jake and Paul) should have made years ago. You're absolutely right, they became addicted to the grind and assumed their "clout" would protect them.
Dude, I remember how back in the day I used to listen to your creepypasta narrations... figured I'd pop back in and see how you're doing. I must say, good sir, I am quite thrilled at your success.
People often tell me that I'm paranoid. I'm not paranoid, I don't believe anyone on parole, especially on the Internet. Particularly when my money is involved. I'm always surprised to see that so many don't seems to care.
It's more like they want to be a greedy, materialistic egoist like him living a flashy, opulent lifestyle. They think investing in this stuff will help them get the money to life said lifestyle, when in fact they are paying for his lifestyle and getting nothing.
You're sadly right, many people bought into a person known for hurting or manipulating others changing. Then proceeded to completely trust him and get manipulated. Blind faith is a terrible thing.
Mandy Rose is fired from WWE for having a 3rd-party OnlyFans that was slightly explicit. Logan Paul is given a massive WWE contract and main event spots, and he does shit like this.
Japanese forest aside, he’s literally been exposed before for his shit coin ‘Dink Doink.’ If you take crypto advice from Logan Paul you deserve to be scammed
Yeah seriously, from grooming his child audience into buying merch, naming shit after him and worshipping him like a cult to the absolute abysmal Japan videos where he made a total ass out of himself to this. I mean people just "forgot" or "forgave" cuz he started a Podcast and some Boxing-Tourney shit? Or he's selling SPORTS DRINKS now? It's so dumb.
The fact that the popular youtube/twitch/social media influencers having troublesome personalities/causing controversies is like the earth is round level common sense nowadays.
If the counselling doesn't cost anything, you're usually the product. I've learnt that the hard way. It's one of these situations where being old as dust is an advantage.
This isn't anything new. Man's been taking Ls and "being held accountable" since the Viner invasion. He matured around like 2020 and that's when he stopped doing shit that he would "need to be held accountable for". Obviously this one was a huge L and he got called out for it.
Logan’s the type of idiot to hire a manager and get mad at people who talk to his manager to get in contact with him. Wtf did you get a manager for then ☠️ what does Jeff even do
I can't even be mad at Logan Paul at this point. How am I supposed to feel sorry for people who invested up to half a million in a guy who's known for filming a dead body in a place called suicide forest and scamming others.
Truthfully, they only care when its someone rich and influential in the political sphere that gets scammed. Normal people dont matter because the way they see it, thats the price of doing business
It's not a government regulated entity so they not gonna get involved. Basically you do this, you are at fault and you assumed the risk. I know some senators want to get involved but not anytime soon. Basically you at fault and you assume the risk when it comes to crypto currency
Crypto currency isn't regulated by the SEC yet. I don't get it why because clearly it's a million dollar market at this point. The SEC should put regulations on what currencies can be traded on the open market.
One thing that I haven't heard many people talk about much (which is fine when there's SO much to talk about with this subject) is how Logan marketed cryptozoo as being "for the whole family". If it really was just a game thatd be fine, but when you have your kids "playing" something with the end goal of making money, isn't that child labor?
No. Unless you force them to grind the money mechanics. Edit: The awful thing is how Logan ADVERTISED it towards CHILDREN. At least Fortnite HAS to give you a lootbox in exchange for your pocket money.
Wouldn't say it's child labor, but it isn't really much of a game so I don't think you'd give it to your kids unless you wanted money out of it. What does that make it then? I'm not sure.
And he gets mad that someone got his kid to be involved in it. “Fun for the whole family” “wait you got your children involved with it how irresponsible”
I don't get why people think NFT works as an investment. The whole economic system is just people trying to find suckers who would pay higher than they paid for a bad art, and those suckers are also looking for another suckers who would pay even higher. It's like a pyramid scheme, where they try to sell you a box full of over-priced bad product, but the catch is that they give you a right to resell that for a higher price, so you can go after another sucker who would also want that "right to resell". Art investment won't work unless there's a value to the art itself that makes people want to own it, even if they overpay for it because the art itself has a artistic or historic value to it. "Projects" aren't art, because only value of the project is that it says "hey you can resell this trash, but we'll make sure this trash keeps people's interest because we are going to pretend to be busy about this project". Value is faked, no one is willing to buy a piece of NFT that you can't resell for a higher price, the whole system is just a legal scam.
didn't know who these clowns were until they became the most hated on the internet. It truly was a sad time for me, seeing millions of children throwing themselves in the line of fire to protect the pauls. He's cringe, that's his only act.
We only followed it because JJ knocked some sense into him after he lost his fight to him. Don’t act like you didn’t follow one thing he did afterwards. A lot of the shit he said and did after the fight made sense and it was an obvious and genuine change. This time he’s just gotten too used to people respecting him and thought he’d be able to get people to not notice what he was doing.
Ofcourse they would lol. I did even. The guy did bad shit but it really felt like he wanted to change for the better. He was not obnoxious anymore and some of his shit was fun to watch too. He HAD to shoot himself in the foot.
Never forgotten. Just don't hold it over peoples head years after, when they've shown visible growth. But ofcourse it's rightfully a worse consquence when u lose peoples respect below a certain level a second time, after it being so hard to respect him after the first time.
@@Fire_Bear42 Let me remind you. Logan edited the video. Logan watched the video be processed and saved to his computer. Logan dragged the video file from his computer to RUclips. Logan titled and put in the description and uploaded the thumbnail he made. Logan watched the video being uploaded and processed for millions of people to see. You think he would've stopped at any point to think it was a bad idea?
I dont like the scammers but you are very right, these people play themselves by buying crypto. I would argue that it is still very very wrong to take advantage of those kind of people
Hi Muta! I'm just a random subscriber, long time follower, first time commenter. I just have to correct you on your "influencer" status. You are so much more than that, please don't even think of putting yourself in that category, and I know you were just probably having a laugh, but please don't hate yourself for it. We love you! Keep up the good work!
Is he, though? This whole video is him just parroting exactly what coffezilla did while adding absolutely nothing new like the average commentary trash. He always does this, and it's really sad to see. He used to be so much more original, and I say this as someone who's watched him since ~2013.
@@alessandrolira4035 Just because Muta and Coffeezilla basically do same thing doesn't necessarily mean that he's parroting. Could just be a coincidence
For me it was always bizarre how Logan faught floyd but the whole time Jake was the one being portrayed and glamorized as some up and coming boxer like what
Lmao in middle school computer class we had a whole lesson on photoshopping animals together. This shit was mashed together in probably less than a day of work
I work at a supplement store where we sell his Prime drinks and it's crazy the amount of teens that come in to buy it. They're obsessed with it and I just don't understand how he has such a sway over teenagers. The weird thing too is they all look so similar. They're very skinny, they have scruffy hair and they're obnoxious...no joke. Hmm that kind of sounds like someone...
Really hard to feel bad for anyone who saw everything Logan Paul and his brother did and then genuinely thought he was some trustworthy benevolent god who turned over a new leaf. Some of y’all could be fooled by a Disney villain.
Oooh! I love that you called out tge "parasocial" stuff, never heard of that term till now but that's exactly why i don't like "influencers" as well. You sound pretty grounded, that's rare to find on the internet.
God muta. You don’t understand how glad I am for you and other people to talk about these things and help the internet become better. Internet keeps getting worse and worse with tate and all this bullshit. Thank you for doing what you do💯❤️
I don’t get it. Like he’s on wwe, popular podcast, has a successful beverage brand among other things. Why scam innocent people. Did he make over 10mil? The amount he made can’t be worth the tarnish his reputation now has, again.
Remember that we’re talking about the same guy who made a fake video about finding someone who supposedly had committed suicide in the Japanese forest, and laughing about it. And the same guy who used a taser on dead animals. Lastly, he’s also the brother off the guy who was arrested for trespassing and looting a store during the Minneapolis riots, and who held illegal parties during the Covid pandemic. Which also got the FBI involved.
Family doesn't make him a worse person, hold him accountable for what he did and was involved with. Not what his brother did. Dig him the hole he deserves, not one out of pure spite.
Not gonna lie I always hated Logan and Jake. I love how he uses coffee's first name on the tweet. It might just be me but I come from the old internet where you don't use irl names period. When someone uses a real name it's to try and dox someone or to say I know who you really are, be ashame if something happened to you.
Good point. Coffee goes by his pseudonym so it's definitely a conscious thing for him to use Coffee's real name. I imagine he wasn't trying to keep it secret but it does seem disrespectful. (Shocking, I know.. lol)
@@FeenieVonKarma the only time I see online people using the irl name is when they want to intimidate someone. It's like a parent talking to a child, it's to low key threaten the other person.
I am actually pretty dissapointed i didnt like him in the past for obvious reasons but i thought he was a changed man, watched his podcast here and there, cheered a bit for his chaneged self but yeah all those years of redemption all wasted because he needed more money nah man he wasted his second and last chance at least for me
@@varietyhub2948 I've never really liked the guy but he has been changing his life around for the better and doing some charitable things, or so people thought....
Crypto always confused me. People hate FIAT currency.... but those same people would spend that FIAT currency on digital coins that weren't tangible and didn't have any backing other than "Trust me bro"
@@theindestructibleone483 not really, I heard about Hustlers University and researched it, my friend is also enrolled there and does copywriting and dude...hes actually getting some money
@@Inuitman whats cringe? Im not saying I would enroll to HU but its produced some income to my friend so I cant speak on it fully negatively, youre cringe for being narrowminded
He didn't throw it away. He liquidated the asset that is his reputation. This is common business nowadays, many brands that have a reputation as making quality products nowadays use it to upsell basic white label crap at a premium, by putting thier 1ct plastic badge on it. When are people going to stop being so gullible and learn to either buy the white label crap for the white label price, or look for actually good engineering, if any manufacturer sells that anymore anyways?
Thing is, I can actually understand him coming back from the Japan thing. That was disgustingly inconsiderate and bad taste incarnate, but in the grand scheme of things, it was just offensive. Truly apologize, work for redemption, come back. This is way different. He truly destroyed hundreds of peoples’ lives here. He did more concrete damage to people with this one thing than most could accomplish if they tried. In the first instance, he mocked a horrible occurrence while in this instance, he could cause others to suffer that occurrence. He needs to be in prison.
@@murderman8578 yh tbh is your own fault if you buy into crypto How not to get scammed through crypto: Step 1: Don't be a retard and buy into crypto Step 2: Be happy with yourself because you're not a retard who would actually buy into crypto in the first place
I'm just glad I never liked him or his brother. Both seemed like total douchebags from the start. Them, Keemstar and Ricegum changed the internet and the way people interact with each other in the worst possible way. The sh!tty culture they created still proliferates to this day.
His mocking and treating of others likely would've encouraged or pushed a few people over the edge. Sometimes you just need to see someone mocking a person who took their own life to decide that this world isn't worth living in if they even mock you for choosing to opt out.
He's a fool for ruining his redemption by both scamming, being a terrible person and treating people terribly online. Did a video covering this actually, and good stuff again man!
No? His redemption arc was the initial marketing tool, to attract people on his next scam. I guess you will wake up (or not), when he is on his redemption arc 4.0 and then immediately pull off his new scam 4.0.
All we can hope is these schemes come to light. That the authorities at be will take notice and take action. Definitely doing a service spreading awareness! Thankyou!
It’s genuinely sad to see this happen. I’ve been really enjoying his run in WWE. I still scratch my head wondering why he would need extra money from crypto of all things when he’s in a company where the top stars are paid millions. Logan is yet another example of a very talented individual who is just a horrible person and it’s very sad to see
*looks at the title* (Gasp) The guy who filmed himself finding a body of a person who committed suicide in a location widely known to be a place where people commit suicide.... ISNT a good person??? *Shocked pikachu face*
if i buy something from my local gas station, and I make sure the receipt is super crisp, could I theoretically frame it and sell it for 100 billion dollars claiming it's "one of a kind"? what if I drip my blood on it?
Dear parents, just because your child is smiling at their phone, doesn't mean they have boyfriend or girlfriend, they are just watching this masterpiece
Check out the newest podcast episode: ruclips.net/video/0lysGKT7OI4/видео.html
You didn’t need this video to tell us that muta
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It's just wild to me that Logan survived being cancelled and actually went on to have a great career, only to once again shoot himself in the foot
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Wtf is this thread
@@cats9994 No idea, just report and move on lol
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Random Japanese here. It's not just him recording the dead body, all of his other rude/inappropriate actions following up to the dead body is what made a lot of us very angry. Even without the dead body incident, he still would have gotten in trouble.
I guess most people never believed that he had really changed. He was just "toning things down" for a bit so people will hopefully forget, and as soon as he felt he was clear, he just went back to his usual sh*t.
What else would he have gotten in trouble for? I never watched him and dont know much about Ur culture
@@timkimmeritz5973 It's not really about the culture, if he acted the same way in ANY place he would have gotten in trouble.
Let's see, it' been a while but what I remember is: he left raw fish in the back of a taxi, he broke several items in a store, he went to the fish market and went to places he was not allowed to enter, he hopped on a truck which he did not get the permission to board (I bet he didn't have the permission to film that either), also I didn't watch the entire thing but he acted like an idiot at the Asakusa temple and I do remember his interpreter apologizing to the staffs in the back while he just stood there.
There were a good number of Japanese youtubers who made really angry videos about the whole thing.
He should have apologized to the dead man's family and the man's grave in person. NOBODY in Japan gave a shit about his apology video in fact I bet most people don't even know that stupid video exists. Unless he visits Japan again and apologize to every single person he mocked, he won't be forgiven here.
I saw the whole Japan video when he first put it out. He was a very disrespectful annoying obnoxious prick who openly insulted Japan and Japanese culture. It made my blood boil and I'm not even Japanese or have any connection with Japan.
@@zzzeus78 Don't forget going around town streets and yelling loudly and throwing a poke all pillow at random people. Which rightfully got him very negative looks.
I'm just glad the Japanese people understand the he is not the representative of average respectable American behavior.
It should be normal for people to be able to change and turn around. That's why people gave him a 2nd chance. Thinking maybe someday he'll mature for good. But turns out yeah you're right, this is the guy's true colors
I don't know who said it, but "Logan Paul grew a beard and people called it a redemption arc" is a pretty apt way to describe him.
He really did seem like he had changed, I didn't watch his content but I had respected him. So hearing that he scammed a lot of people was jawbreaking and now I have no choice but to shit on him now.
@@Althenticity He never changed. He just rebranded and switched his content to fit a slightly older audience, still playing the game and still always a scumbag, just with added virtue signalling
@@Ryanlani221 YES this is even worse, cuz be tricked everyone by rebranding him self, he and his lil gang would sell their mothers for a little bit of clout, i hope he suffers
@@Althenticity but it was basically just one scam aftet another and people falling to it with the logic that he has enough money that he doesn't need to scam
@@redterrorproductions1373 nice
People are calling him a bad person as if it wasn’t obvious half a decade ago.
the dude just record of man suicide in aokigahara.
@That V8 Life that part. Including Muta
He was in his early twenties, almost everyone's stupid in their early twenties
@@sakurarara4725 Nobody's "mocking a suicide victim, recording it and uploading it" stupid in their early twenties
It was obvious a decade ago. But, I’ve heard that the story on the street was that he had changed, he had reformed. And yknow what? If someone is truly putting in the effort to change, I don’t think we should immediately doubt them just based on their past actions
But well…Logan threw it away. He evidently hasn’t changed, he just got smarter and more sinister. The story was a lie, and he threw away his second chance.
Its WILD that he have same manager since that Japan Forest 😅
Logan is the guy who will hear an idea, then immediately regurgitate it as his own idea as if he just came up with it. Coffee asked him to chat, then Logan's mirror neurons activated and he spat the invite right back at him.
@fours05 🇬🇧 so true
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@fours05 🇬🇧 what a way to say " HEY LOOK AT ME IM A STUPID CHILD !!"
Its a bot no doubt
@fours05 🇬🇧 Generally speaking.
The fact that all it took for the internet to completely forgive Logan is him acting like a normal person on his podcast is insane to me. The internet is so gullible
I mean, that's how it works.
Alot of people didn't think he changed until 2020 around the time George Floyd died. Logan said a passionate speech that went viral and made people who didn't like him look at him differently and then they started to respect him
I think it's more like people just forgot about him and after that he tried to recover his name
FINALLY!
Someone who sees through his nice guy act that is so obviously put on...He is still the exact same dirtbag he was when he went to the Forrest it's just he knows how to act in front of a camera now.
@Golden Robodude *Always (fixed your reply for you)
How he got forgiven for the whole Japan forest thing is beyond me
@@D1sappo1ntmentPanda I disagree but i see your point of view, i see someone showing someone hanging to kids less then 5 year old is worse especially to people with depression
Or for being a pedo in Puerto Rico
I mean it really wasn't that bad
I mean he just found a way to monetize how people hated him by making people pay to see him getting punched in the face a few times
@@roronoazoro2708Are you lost again?
Honestly I’m surprised that for a guy who filmed a dead guy in Japan would be forgiven so fast.
The internet is kind of vapid I guess? Like, he did the podcast and boxing tournament stuff then people were just like "Oh, I guess he's totally cleansed of all his past sins now, did you know he made a Sports Drink??? omggg" Nevermind all the shady stuff he did prior to that.
His shithead brother eclipsed him so hard in being more of an obviously obnoxious douche for a while so maybe it was hard for some ppl to notice/remember, I guess
Honestly, if it's that easy for someone to be forgiven, it kinda proves the morality of people in America, because there's a good chance they would probably do the same thing if not worse for some attention and fortune.
@@KireTheOne lol, i've never done such a thing, and there are millions of people who are the same way. Speak for yourself. Stop projecting your behaviors onto others, it's just you and others like you. Neither of us have any empirical data whatsoever what the majority or generality of America would do.
filming the man, is bad enough... but he made fun of him!! He made fun of a dead man! If the pauls were a body of water they would be the LA river.
I thought we had all agreed that the paul Brothers were horrible people.
I can't believe that the person who thought uploading a vlog with a person who committed suicide was ok can not be trusted
@fours02 🇬🇧 did you lose a bet or something
The vid was obv faket but yea
@@TTaiiLs brotherin, they were in a Japanese forest known for suicide
fuck that, I refuse to take any advice from his editor
@@TTaiiLs elaborate?
I don't know about anyone else but Logan Paul has always been the absolute last person I would trust when it comes to my money lmao
I was honestly baffled anyone would invest in anything he promotes, let alone is the creator of as well. Especially considering he has a track record of scam projects even before the launch of this "game".
I see the bots have given up and are just racist now lol
I remember h3 talking about his scams years ago and nobody really cared, weird how people are just now seeing him as the piece of sht he really is.
@@fours05 Bro just learnt what the n word is
@@cities_aviv replying to a bot
I feel like the ultimate strategy for NFTs was "Let's all scam at the same time and hope some of us get away with it!"
Thankfully with their imaginary market crashing and investigators like Coffeezilla coming into play, they're not.
That's how most pump and dump scams work
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Damn julica you got the whole squad rolling 😐
why is mutas comments poisoned
I think it turned into that but never was to be a scam
Something my uncle told me a long time ago is the worth or value of anything is what people are willing to pay for it. Living by that it doesn’t surprise me that this whole nft thing is just a loss. I don’t know anyone willing to pay anything for a virtual image…
The crazy thing about nfts is that no one actually wants them, they expect other people to buy them off of them eventually hence "speculative market"
NFTs are useless. If I want an NFT, I just screenshot it and now I have it. I don't understand how anyone would think this would work out. It's like they somehow don't understand the internet, despite depending on the internet.
@@wareforcoin5780 Its the NFT bubble just like the internet bubble. NFT's will still be a thing in the future.
This is where he makes a bozo apology for the 100000th time and everyone takes it and life goes on
Looking at this now after Jan. 3rd, his response was worse...
Jaka and Logan have this awesome dynamic where one messes up and then than the other one messes up worse so the other looks better, and they keep doing it and they’re still going
I'm calling him Jaka from now on, way better
Jake doesn't look good in this situation as he is a bigger scammer than Logan man has been scamming his audience since team 10. I would expect something like this from Jake but not from Logan who hasn't scammed his fans until now
@@theoutsiderjess1869 who wouldve guessed that the guy who filmed a dead guy is a terrible person
Jaka is always causing mischief
@@theoutsiderjess1869 Jaka is also friends with a woman abuser and human trafficker lol, I doubt he's going back up
i love how muta is still apologizing for the established titles thing while youtubers like heavy d sparks are risking their channel by defending them and their actions in exchange for cash
I don’t think the established titles thing was really as bad as it has been made out to be but doubling down is crazy
@@taken_over3416 it was pretty freaking bad. This sort of retcon that it was always just sold as a gag gift, never made any sense. And I think it's quite telling that the only people that have been defending it are the biggest charlatans like Spencer Cornelia.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 I mean that’s true but at the end of the day it’s just the “have a star named after you or your loved one” trope repackaged. I think that the scummiest part was probably the mass social media marketing campaign targeting younger/more impressionable people without the life experience to see it for what it, imo, obviously was.
@@taken_over3416 i mean, they sell a gag gift that was always a gag gift and i harbor no ill will to people taking sponsorships from them. I honestly can't believe anyone ever thought it was anything else.
But, at the end of the day, when the hive mind has agreed that something is bad, doubling down and still taking money from it probably isn't the best for your reputation lol
Heavy D is a chump.
And here I thought the Pauls have finally decided to just fade into obscurity and just live a quiet life as a couple of rich guys. How foolish was I to assume they had ever stopped their bs, truly the grind never stops.
Muta is worse than Logan he doesn’t appreciate his audience
@@EvanRecka98 Ah, yes. The Pauls, known for appreciating their audience by scamming them out of their money. Such shining examples of altruism.
I hope you're joking and I'm getting whooshed hardcore.
@@EvanRecka98Logan appreciating his audience, good joke.
@@TheVenhammer is a bot i bet, or a troll, dont bother brother
That would be the optimal choice, that they (Jake and Paul) should have made years ago. You're absolutely right, they became addicted to the grind and assumed their "clout" would protect them.
Dude, I remember how back in the day I used to listen to your creepypasta narrations... figured I'd pop back in and see how you're doing. I must say, good sir, I am quite thrilled at your success.
We already know this. It's crazy how horrible people are at discerning which people to stay away from.
People often tell me that I'm paranoid. I'm not paranoid, I don't believe anyone on parole, especially on the Internet. Particularly when my money is involved. I'm always surprised to see that so many don't seems to care.
you dont have belive people on internet you dont know how trust someone or not.
It's more like they want to be a greedy, materialistic egoist like him living a flashy, opulent lifestyle. They think investing in this stuff will help them get the money to life said lifestyle, when in fact they are paying for his lifestyle and getting nothing.
This is so shocking. Logan Paul is bad?????
@fours05 🇬🇧 biggers🇧🇩
I dont understand how youtube doesnt have any protection against bots or even the simplest spam...
@fours05 🇬🇧 triggers😂
@@soupisyummy5533 ni- 😬
@@raglock1433 how is there not a system that unables you to write nig*er 45 times in a row
bro your one bad sponsor deal is nothing compared to what these guys are doing. keep grinding man
Muta is worse than Logan so is his audience. Bunch of sweaty try hards.
@@Evanrecka99 what does try harding have to do with this?
yea i get why coffee doesnt take spomsors he wants no one to ever have anything on him or even a chance to say shit about it
@@travls_4679 wtf are you talking about?
@@grassmonkeyO5 that the channel coffezilla doesnt accept any sponsors cuz its a liability.
I think he’s just misunderstood, like when he said he’s working on a new project, he meant he was working on a rug pull and people misunderstood that.
got me in the first half 💀
This is a good one
You're sadly right, many people bought into a person known for hurting or manipulating others changing.
Then proceeded to completely trust him and get manipulated.
Blind faith is a terrible thing.
Mandy Rose is fired from WWE for having a 3rd-party OnlyFans that was slightly explicit.
Logan Paul is given a massive WWE contract and main event spots, and he does shit like this.
hes gonna lean on the fact that he personally didnt sell coins and start finger pointing or something. zero accountability
Wow, right on the money. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised though.
If you ever thought he was a good person… what were you smoking?
Japanese forest aside, he’s literally been exposed before for his shit coin ‘Dink Doink.’ If you take crypto advice from Logan Paul you deserve to be scammed
Yeah seriously, from grooming his child audience into buying merch, naming shit after him and worshipping him like a cult to the absolute abysmal Japan videos where he made a total ass out of himself to this. I mean people just "forgot" or "forgave" cuz he started a Podcast and some Boxing-Tourney shit? Or he's selling SPORTS DRINKS now? It's so dumb.
Ah yes, the floor is made out of floor
The fact that the popular youtube/twitch/social media influencers having troublesome personalities/causing controversies is like the earth is round level common sense nowadays.
And yet despite all the evidence out there, there are still naysayers and deniers.
nowadays not even “the earth is round” is as common sense as it used to be so
How illegal is this? Logan deserves to serve time for this
If the counselling doesn't cost anything, you're usually the product. I've learnt that the hard way. It's one of these situations where being old as dust is an advantage.
You know SHIT is REAL when the Muta has his eyes closed in the thumbnail
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I don't think Muta ever closes his eyes. In every video his eyes literally look so dead and baggy
I don’t even know what to say to this thread... just... no.
I’m actually surprised of how Logan got away with scamming his own fans, especially on a such a huge scale.
Andrew Tate already said it top g
@fours05 🇬🇧 god damn
consider the fans.
because clearly if you are a fan of either paul brother then you are clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed
He's got the perfect fanbase for that
this man has been given so many chances that cats would be jealous. He needs to be held accountable for once.
🤓
This isn't anything new. Man's been taking Ls and "being held accountable" since the Viner invasion. He matured around like 2020 and that's when he stopped doing shit that he would "need to be held accountable for". Obviously this one was a huge L and he got called out for it.
@@GokuSolosAnime Nerd
@@diego032912 🤓
@@GokuSolosAnime Nerd
Logan’s the type of idiot to hire a manager and get mad at people who talk to his manager to get in contact with him. Wtf did you get a manager for then ☠️ what does Jeff even do
I can't even be mad at Logan Paul at this point. How am I supposed to feel sorry for people who invested up to half a million in a guy who's known for filming a dead body in a place called suicide forest and scamming others.
I mean..... I've already established that since his visit to Japan, but yeah. Lol
Like the titles? I see what you did there
How can the SEC not open investigations into this. Like I know they can be busy but isn't this part of their job?
Truthfully, they only care when its someone rich and influential in the political sphere that gets scammed. Normal people dont matter because the way they see it, thats the price of doing business
It's not a government regulated entity so they not gonna get involved. Basically you do this, you are at fault and you assumed the risk. I know some senators want to get involved but not anytime soon. Basically you at fault and you assume the risk when it comes to crypto currency
Lots of scams and this isn't the worst one by far
Crypto currency isn't regulated by the SEC yet. I don't get it why because clearly it's a million dollar market at this point. The SEC should put regulations on what currencies can be traded on the open market.
@@MangoPop fair point, then what about SBF and FTX. He is getting charged for his shit. Why can't the same be done in this case?
One thing that I haven't heard many people talk about much (which is fine when there's SO much to talk about with this subject) is how Logan marketed cryptozoo as being "for the whole family". If it really was just a game thatd be fine, but when you have your kids "playing" something with the end goal of making money, isn't that child labor?
Reaching
No. Unless you force them to grind the money mechanics.
Edit: The awful thing is how Logan ADVERTISED it towards CHILDREN. At least Fortnite HAS to give you a lootbox in exchange for your pocket money.
Wouldn't say it's child labor, but it isn't really much of a game so I don't think you'd give it to your kids unless you wanted money out of it. What does that make it then? I'm not sure.
And he gets mad that someone got his kid to be involved in it.
“Fun for the whole family” “wait you got your children involved with it how irresponsible”
I don't get why people think NFT works as an investment. The whole economic system is just people trying to find suckers who would pay higher than they paid for a bad art, and those suckers are also looking for another suckers who would pay even higher. It's like a pyramid scheme, where they try to sell you a box full of over-priced bad product, but the catch is that they give you a right to resell that for a higher price, so you can go after another sucker who would also want that "right to resell".
Art investment won't work unless there's a value to the art itself that makes people want to own it, even if they overpay for it because the art itself has a artistic or historic value to it. "Projects" aren't art, because only value of the project is that it says "hey you can resell this trash, but we'll make sure this trash keeps people's interest because we are going to pretend to be busy about this project". Value is faked, no one is willing to buy a piece of NFT that you can't resell for a higher price, the whole system is just a legal scam.
didn't know who these clowns were until they became the most hated on the internet. It truly was a sad time for me, seeing millions of children throwing themselves in the line of fire to protect the pauls. He's cringe, that's his only act.
I can't believe how many people bought into his "redempion arc"
So many people did and its so embarrassing.
wait until they are all in on his redemption arc 2.0
@@garytsang5673
Yep it's gonna happen..
We only followed it because JJ knocked some sense into him after he lost his fight to him. Don’t act like you didn’t follow one thing he did afterwards. A lot of the shit he said and did after the fight made sense and it was an obvious and genuine change. This time he’s just gotten too used to people respecting him and thought he’d be able to get people to not notice what he was doing.
Ofcourse they would lol. I did even. The guy did bad shit but it really felt like he wanted to change for the better. He was not obnoxious anymore and some of his shit was fun to watch too. He HAD to shoot himself in the foot.
It's like people have forgotten what he did in 2017.
Nobody cares, they get outraged for fun then move on. This'll be forgotten soon as well when it's no longer deemed a hot topic
Forgiveness and forgetfulness are two different things. That doesn't matter anymore though.
Never forgotten. Just don't hold it over peoples head years after, when they've shown visible growth. But ofcourse it's rightfully a worse consquence when u lose peoples respect below a certain level a second time, after it being so hard to respect him after the first time.
We’re too busy with with burning people at the stakes for saying there are only two gender.
@@Fire_Bear42 Let me remind you.
Logan edited the video.
Logan watched the video be processed and saved to his computer.
Logan dragged the video file from his computer to RUclips.
Logan titled and put in the description and uploaded the thumbnail he made.
Logan watched the video being uploaded and processed for millions of people to see.
You think he would've stopped at any point to think it was a bad idea?
Logan Paul got excused on his first controversy in Japan and now he destroyed his entire career over crypto, and NFTS.
Idk about you guys but I'm glad AF I played RS when I was younger. The day I went for that cash stack was the last time I trusted anyone.
I fear newer generations wouldn't understand that RS stands for RuneScape
Can we appreciate the amount of effort muta puts to his thumbnails?
2022 Goals:
Elon buying twitter ✅
SBF arrested ✅
Logan Paul exposed by Coffeezilla ✅
This year ending with a BANG!!😎
I dont like the scammers but you are very right, these people play themselves by buying crypto. I would argue that it is still very very wrong to take advantage of those kind of people
Hi Muta! I'm just a random subscriber, long time follower, first time commenter.
I just have to correct you on your "influencer" status. You are so much more than that, please don't even think of putting yourself in that category, and I know you were just probably having a laugh, but please don't hate yourself for it. We love you!
Keep up the good work!
Much support
Liar, ur a 3rd! Time commenter! Despicable
Is he, though? This whole video is him just parroting exactly what coffezilla did while adding absolutely nothing new like the average commentary trash. He always does this, and it's really sad to see. He used to be so much more original, and I say this as someone who's watched him since ~2013.
I also feel the need to support this idk y I just do
@@alessandrolira4035 Just because Muta and Coffeezilla basically do same thing doesn't necessarily mean that he's parroting. Could just be a coincidence
I doubt this is gonna affect him because adin Ross and many others have been able to move past it like nothing happened
if i was Aiden Ross, id be more worried about his friendship and support of a sexual trafficker and rapist by the name of Jail bait Andrea Tate
For me it was always bizarre how Logan faught floyd but the whole time Jake was the one being portrayed and glamorized as some up and coming boxer like what
Lmao in middle school computer class we had a whole lesson on photoshopping animals together. This shit was mashed together in probably less than a day of work
Mutahar looks like he’s trying to smile for a school photo in the thumbnail.
CoffeeZilla did a great job on this! Thanks for spreading the word!
I work at a supplement store where we sell his Prime drinks and it's crazy the amount of teens that come in to buy it. They're obsessed with it and I just don't understand how he has such a sway over teenagers. The weird thing too is they all look so similar. They're very skinny, they have scruffy hair and they're obnoxious...no joke. Hmm that kind of sounds like someone...
Muta’s thumbnails are always on some next shit.
RUclips should've banned him after the video at Aokigahara.
After all the things he's done, the fact that he still has fans is preposterous
Imagine Logan Paul coming out with a forest NFT. It'll probably hang around for awhile.
I think the most fucked up part of cryptozoo is the indirect advertising to children
Really hard to feel bad for anyone who saw everything Logan Paul and his brother did and then genuinely thought he was some trustworthy benevolent god who turned over a new leaf. Some of y’all could be fooled by a Disney villain.
a celebrity turned out to be bad?? UNBELIEVABLE NO WAYY!!!!
"Logan isn't a good person."
Grass is green, birds fly, and brother, I hurt people!
Oooh! I love that you called out tge "parasocial" stuff, never heard of that term till now but that's exactly why i don't like "influencers" as well. You sound pretty grounded, that's rare to find on the internet.
God muta. You don’t understand how glad I am for you and other people to talk about these things and help the internet become better. Internet keeps getting worse and worse with tate and all this bullshit. Thank you for doing what you do💯❤️
It's kinda sad that somebody as successful as him feels the need to do things like this
He’s probably around so many yes-men that feed him dumb ideas.
It's compulsive, sociopathic...
@@jijowajaknxanma3439 He literally could be beyoung about majority with out any afford, and choose and choose scamming... It's pathological
thats how he became successful
I don’t get it. Like he’s on wwe, popular podcast, has a successful beverage brand among other things. Why scam innocent people. Did he make over 10mil? The amount he made can’t be worth the tarnish his reputation now has, again.
Remember that we’re talking about the same guy who made a fake video about finding someone who supposedly had committed suicide in the Japanese forest, and laughing about it.
And the same guy who used a taser on dead animals.
Lastly, he’s also the brother off the guy who was arrested for trespassing and looting a store during the Minneapolis riots, and who held illegal parties during the Covid pandemic. Which also got the FBI involved.
He is one of those people that makes it very hard to track all the shit things he did. I remembered Aokigahara and that was enough for me!
Family doesn't make him a worse person, hold him accountable for what he did and was involved with. Not what his brother did.
Dig him the hole he deserves, not one out of pure spite.
Not gonna lie I always hated Logan and Jake. I love how he uses coffee's first name on the tweet. It might just be me but I come from the old internet where you don't use irl names period. When someone uses a real name it's to try and dox someone or to say I know who you really are, be ashame if something happened to you.
Good point. Coffee goes by his pseudonym so it's definitely a conscious thing for him to use Coffee's real name. I imagine he wasn't trying to keep it secret but it does seem disrespectful. (Shocking, I know.. lol)
@@FeenieVonKarma the only time I see online people using the irl name is when they want to intimidate someone. It's like a parent talking to a child, it's to low key threaten the other person.
Hype for the Star Citizen video x)
TItle really be like "Wow, this floor is made out of floor!"
I am actually pretty dissapointed i didnt like him in the past for obvious reasons but i thought he was a changed man, watched his podcast here and there, cheered a bit for his chaneged self but yeah all those years of redemption all wasted because he needed more money nah man he wasted his second and last chance at least for me
Hate to break it you man but he never changed. He was just really good at pretending he did.
Some people just like to be fooled I guess. Use your common sense next time
he was on his redemption arc, he just had to scam people with crypto and ruin it💀
these bots 🗿
@@MingChilling- fr, they’re racist now
What redemption arc?
Redemption arc my ass. Took you long enough to realize
@@varietyhub2948 I've never really liked the guy but he has been changing his life around for the better and doing some charitable things, or so people thought....
Goes from being cancelled to fair treatment to a revival then to a huge shot in the foot
He’s always been a scammer. This isn’t the first time he’s done this.
@@AmericaTheSimpleMinded not really, no...
@@AmericaTheSimpleMinded yeah he was always a scammer.
@@AmericaTheSimpleMinded could you give me an example of when he scammed before this?
@@AmericaTheSimpleMinded if you can't you're saying shit for attention
big props for the korilakkuma behind you, man of good taste.
The way he treats George about his spirituality is despicable too.
Saying that Logan Paul is not a good person is a massive understatement.
What if I said he's an inadequate person?
Crypto always confused me. People hate FIAT currency.... but those same people would spend that FIAT currency on digital coins that weren't tangible and didn't have any backing other than "Trust me bro"
He really did all that rebuilding after the Japan forest incident just to throw it away
Wow Muta is such a good friend, looking out for us and warning about possible scams.
Keep up the good work best friend!
The same people who fall for this think they're royalty because they gave a company $30 for a souvenir land plot.
Tate also commented on it, hes disgusted by Logan and has actually been calling out Logan for a long time, Jake too.
Friendly fire will not be tolerated.
@@theindestructibleone483 not really, I heard about Hustlers University and researched it, my friend is also enrolled there and does copywriting and dude...hes actually getting some money
@@knockdadeathstroke3799 cringe
@@Inuitman whats cringe? Im not saying I would enroll to HU but its produced some income to my friend so I cant speak on it fully negatively, youre cringe for being narrowminded
@@knockdadeathstroke3799 ok now bring up everything bad Tate has done, he might even be WORSE than Logan, and that's saying something.
It’s crazy how he managed to rebuild his reputation and go through a whole redemption arc just to throw it all away.
He didn't throw it away. He liquidated the asset that is his reputation.
This is common business nowadays, many brands that have a reputation as making quality products nowadays use it to upsell basic white label crap at a premium, by putting thier 1ct plastic badge on it.
When are people going to stop being so gullible and learn to either buy the white label crap for the white label price, or look for actually good engineering, if any manufacturer sells that anymore anyways?
Ikr?
Thing is, I can actually understand him coming back from the Japan thing. That was disgustingly inconsiderate and bad taste incarnate, but in the grand scheme of things, it was just offensive. Truly apologize, work for redemption, come back.
This is way different. He truly destroyed hundreds of peoples’ lives here. He did more concrete damage to people with this one thing than most could accomplish if they tried.
In the first instance, he mocked a horrible occurrence while in this instance, he could cause others to suffer that occurrence. He needs to be in prison.
Because people were stupid to buy into Crypto
@@murderman8578 yh tbh is your own fault if you buy into crypto
How not to get scammed through crypto:
Step 1: Don't be a retard and buy into crypto
Step 2: Be happy with yourself because you're not a retard who would actually buy into crypto in the first place
I'm just glad I never liked him or his brother. Both seemed like total douchebags from the start. Them, Keemstar and Ricegum changed the internet and the way people interact with each other in the worst possible way. The sh!tty culture they created still proliferates to this day.
His mocking and treating of others likely would've encouraged or pushed a few people over the edge.
Sometimes you just need to see someone mocking a person who took their own life to decide that this world isn't worth living in if they even mock you for choosing to opt out.
Wtf does "it was just offensive" mean? That is the weirdest way to excuse the awful shit he did.
"Logan Paul is Not A Good Person"
Hmm yes, the floor is made of floor.
Dammit, looks like the RNG that controls when and where muta inserts a "ladies and gentlemen" is on the fritz again
He's a fool for ruining his redemption by both scamming, being a terrible person and treating people terribly online. Did a video covering this actually, and good stuff again man!
No? His redemption arc was the initial marketing tool, to attract people on his next scam.
I guess you will wake up (or not), when he is on his redemption arc 4.0 and then immediately pull off his new scam 4.0.
@@garytsang5673 no? It was to reinvigorate his career which allowed him and led him to scamming more people.
19:17 my brain " nobody nobody , does it better " .... than Muta :p
All we can hope is these schemes come to light. That the authorities at be will take notice and take action. Definitely doing a service spreading awareness! Thankyou!
You maintained your dignity and your audience knows that you didn't screw them over. You're in a pretty good position.
It’s genuinely sad to see this happen. I’ve been really enjoying his run in WWE. I still scratch my head wondering why he would need extra money from crypto of all things when he’s in a company where the top stars are paid millions. Logan is yet another example of a very talented individual who is just a horrible person and it’s very sad to see
Logan’s doing great in WWE and making 🏦 I’m confused too but greed runs in humanity
The same reason billionaires want more money when they have enough for literally 100 lifetimes.
Greed.
WWE just loves attracting bad people. Well, it makes sense with who was in charge there.
Well I mean we're talking about the guy who went to the Japanese [redacted] forest and recorded a dead people
Thank you for being you, Muta.
Man, I could really go for a barbecue bacon burger right now.
a transparent man. subbing and died laughing about the dink doink. you gotta be off to invest in anything called dink doink to begin with
Probably the truest RUclips video title ever. Subtle and to the point.
*looks at the title*
(Gasp) The guy who filmed himself finding a body of a person who committed suicide in a location widely known to be a place where people commit suicide.... ISNT a good person???
*Shocked pikachu face*
"Shocked pikachu face" - 👶
@@fiyum333 are you a child?
@@fiyum333
Fanboy detected. Go back to bed. You have school.
@@young7931 fanboy for who?
and it's winter break tf you mean school
"Logan paul is not a good person"
Hmm yes the floor is made of floor
youre doing gods work. love it
keep this story in the media and keep people outraged about it and we will see logan paul banished to the underworld
if i buy something from my local gas station, and I make sure the receipt is super crisp, could I theoretically frame it and sell it for 100 billion dollars claiming it's "one of a kind"?
what if I drip my blood on it?
The zookeeper portion of the video sounds like a rick and morty episode
Dear parents, just because your child is smiling at their phone, doesn't mean they have boyfriend or girlfriend, they are just watching this masterpiece
These fuckin bots, goddamn
The racism isn't even funny
@@fours02 Not this racist bot again 💀💀💀
The reply section is the carbon copy of that PUBG bridge
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