So they basically turned into a optional superboss to compensate his rather lackluster performance in the base game. Now people can actually hear his theme and see his attack animations
@@eyalamit5120 Yep. I'm pretty sure beating Shiva is the prerequisite, regardless of story path. I certainly got to fight Lv99 Lucifer at the end of my first playthrough, which went in the Vengeance-Law path.
This is it Luigi, the final battle of Vengeance, and it's still Grandpa Colonel Decepticon Lucifer. I actually really wouldn't have mind it if if by default, True Dark Lucifer was always fought. Buff did fight this version, but in the Vengeance routes, you still need to unlock it, though it no longer affects the ending. But because it needs to be unlocked, a lot of people missed it and fought the incomplete version of the fight like back in Vanilla V's release without knowing there's another version. True Dark Lucifer himself is LV 99 instead of 90 and has much higher HP + his new Innate Skills, so he's stronger than the original game. The actual Chaos ending itself, is very similar to the Massacre ending back in IV Apocalypse, though Yoko turned everything into the primal void with the hopes of the next world being better.
@@l30ng62 That prompt isn't there by default actually. You only get said prompt if you beat Shiva ending before the alightment lock. Otherwise you will fight regular Lucifer by default and won't get the choice.
He has multiple phases in the base game as well, you just have to unlock his true form, I don't remember how but it's possible, he's also rather weak in that form too, which is easily explained by the sheer fact that he seeks "true freedom" from the constant rebirth of gods (he's technically son of YHVH and thus a god himself) and that "one resolution" he has found is death by the hands of Nahobino, if Lucifer were to win his entire purpose behind everything trough the whole series would end up meaningless
I did this version of the fight unknowingly on the law ending that it was just hard for the sake of being hard and not a different ending was a true CBT fight
ohhhh boy!, while i do love ur low level stuff i guess i watched so much of it i get a huge smile when u go ALL OUT. i pity poor luci he never had a chance.
11:38 you know, there’s moments like this that makes you wonder if Ai actually stands for artificial incompetence But then there’s also those times where a simple enemy uses 1 turn boss kill strategies
That Magatsuhi Tactics skill is actually sick, I saw you going through your demons you'd be using and saw you scroll through Azazel and Tzitizmitl and thought how were you going to use them, and then saw Amanozako's unique skill, still confused how you'd use it. Until you pull out that hat trick. Sick fight and even sicker tactics. Nice upload man. Can't wait to see more from you now that you've finished the game. Cheers!! (● ˃̶͈̀ロ˂̶͈́)੭ꠥ⁾⁾
@@lorddarki9936the hardest part is his last phase brah, I’m simply not doing enough damage so I use divine shield (or something like that (my game is in french)) to tank lucifer’s morning star, but I still get clapped by his aoe skills
@@lorddarki9936 Defeating Shiva is not enough to unlock the Transcendent Lucifer battle, you also have to do most of the sub-quests you need in vanilla game/Canon of Creation to get the true neutral ending (I dunno if all of those quests can be done in Canon of Vengeance), I recently just fought Shiva before entering the Empyrean and I didn't get the prompt to pick either regular or Trancendent Lucifer fight, so... I only got the regular fight that you get in Canon of Creation when you don't follow True Neutral ending.
@@coasterboy67 Not 100% sure, but is very likely that just like the vanilla game, in CoC is just True Neutral, CoV as long as you got the stuff requiered for CoC True Neutral you should get the prompt to fight either regular or True Neutral version of Lucifer.
So the level 80 one was just how he was in the base game? No multiple phases or anything? Christ I can see how that would be underwhelming even more so in this game after the slog of fights that were Tiamet and Taho in Vengence, but I suppose you can view Lucifer as more of a victory lap than a true wall.
This Lucifer fight was in the base game as the final boss of true neutral but he was only level 90 and not nearly as powerful. It was really trivial to circumvent his star gimmick since they were all insanely frail in the og version. Here it's actually a bit of a challenge to get around morning star
Do the normal requirements for the Canon of Creation True Neutral Ending. Those being completion of the quests for 1. Amanozako 2. Fionn 3. Khonsu 4. Shiva
Although for Khonsu, there’s a very limited time to complete his quest in the Canon of Vengeance but it’s not hard to miss if you’re actively looking for it
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So they basically turned into a optional superboss to compensate his rather lackluster performance in the base game. Now people can actually hear his theme and see his attack animations
The level 83 Silky really does say alot about this game
Fairy Banquet: LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO MIMIC A FRACTION OF OUR POWER!
Lol
That switching to get debuffs and then to use Amanozako's passive. That was brilliant!
This is how they fixed multi-phase Lucifer being weaker than Shiva despite being locked behind Shiva. Honestly, not bad.
Wait can I still get his level 99 version in Vengeance as long as I beat Shiva?
@@eyalamit5120 Yep. I'm pretty sure beating Shiva is the prerequisite, regardless of story path. I certainly got to fight Lv99 Lucifer at the end of my first playthrough, which went in the Vengeance-Law path.
@@SharKing319 Can I get the extended fight if I beat Shiva after I beat Tehom?
@@eyalamit5120 Yes.
@@SharKing319 BASED I MADE A SAVE RIGHT AFTER THAT- wait.
Can I get it even if I was already invited by Lucifer?
This is it Luigi, the final battle of Vengeance, and it's still Grandpa Colonel Decepticon Lucifer.
I actually really wouldn't have mind it if if by default, True Dark Lucifer was always fought.
Buff did fight this version, but in the Vengeance routes, you still need to unlock it, though it no longer affects the ending. But because it needs to be unlocked, a lot of people missed it and fought the incomplete version of the fight like back in Vanilla V's release without knowing there's another version.
True Dark Lucifer himself is LV 99 instead of 90 and has much higher HP + his new Innate Skills, so he's stronger than the original game.
The actual Chaos ending itself, is very similar to the Massacre ending back in IV Apocalypse, though Yoko turned everything into the primal void with the hopes of the next world being better.
Not sure where you get that Info from but I fought Lucifers real form just by selecting extremely powerful
@@l30ng62 That prompt isn't there by default actually. You only get said prompt if you beat Shiva ending before the alightment lock. Otherwise you will fight regular Lucifer by default and won't get the choice.
This guy was way harder than Shiva
As he should've been.
I didnt know he had multiple phases in vengeance, i was surprised he ended after one phase during my playthrough
He has multiple phases in the base game as well, you just have to unlock his true form, I don't remember how but it's possible, he's also rather weak in that form too, which is easily explained by the sheer fact that he seeks "true freedom" from the constant rebirth of gods (he's technically son of YHVH and thus a god himself) and that "one resolution" he has found is death by the hands of Nahobino, if Lucifer were to win his entire purpose behind everything trough the whole series would end up meaningless
You only fight his multi phase form in base and Canon of Creation by beating Shiva before you go to the Emperyean and go down the True Neutral ending
Watching these strategies makes me feel like a 3D being who was just exposed to 4D
I had no idea you could do that that's so cool actually
Finally, an actually hard Lucifer Boss
NOCTURNE LUCI-AM I A JOKE TO YOU?
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq in the original maniax version Lucifer was a pushover. Chronicles version is a different story entirely tho
@@billyboleson2830 how so?
I did this version of the fight unknowingly on the law ending that it was just hard for the sake of being hard and not a different ending was a true CBT fight
Really glad they locked this fight behind a missable subquest so now I don't get to fight it unless I play the entire game again, thanks Atlus.
ohhhh boy!, while i do love ur low level stuff i guess i watched so much of it i get a huge smile when u go ALL OUT. i pity poor luci he never had a chance.
11:38 you know, there’s moments like this that makes you wonder if Ai actually stands for artificial incompetence
But then there’s also those times where a simple enemy uses 1 turn boss kill strategies
That Magatsuhi Tactics skill is actually sick, I saw you going through your demons you'd be using and saw you scroll through Azazel and Tzitizmitl and thought how were you going to use them, and then saw Amanozako's unique skill, still confused how you'd use it. Until you pull out that hat trick. Sick fight and even sicker tactics. Nice upload man. Can't wait to see more from you now that you've finished the game. Cheers!! (● ˃̶͈̀ロ˂̶͈́)੭ꠥ⁾⁾
Battle begins here 3:13
Wait you can fight him in 3 forms in vengeance or do you need to do certsin quests to get it?
How does changing demon doesn't consume press turn?
The Omagatoki: STRATEGIZE
When's the cutoff time? In other words, if I defeat Shiva _after_ defeating Mastema, can I still fight True Lucifer?
Yes
So how do you access the multi phase version of Lucifer? Same way you fight him in Vanilla SMT5?
Yeah as far as I know you need to beat shiva beforehand to access Multi Phase Lucifer.
I would argue Newcifer is harder than shiva
@@lorddarki9936the hardest part is his last phase brah, I’m simply not doing enough damage so I use divine shield (or something like that (my game is in french)) to tank lucifer’s morning star, but I still get clapped by his aoe skills
@@lorddarki9936 Defeating Shiva is not enough to unlock the Transcendent Lucifer battle, you also have to do most of the sub-quests you need in vanilla game/Canon of Creation to get the true neutral ending (I dunno if all of those quests can be done in Canon of Vengeance), I recently just fought Shiva before entering the Empyrean and I didn't get the prompt to pick either regular or Trancendent Lucifer fight, so... I only got the regular fight that you get in Canon of Creation when you don't follow True Neutral ending.
How do you get the level 99 version of Lucifer?
Aww sweet! You get the girl in the end!
Can you fight lv99 Lucifer in CoC, or is he only in CoV?
You can still fight him in CoC but unsure if it's just in the True Neutral ending or not
@@coasterboy67 Thanks
@@coasterboy67 Not 100% sure, but is very likely that just like the vanilla game, in CoC is just True Neutral, CoV as long as you got the stuff requiered for CoC True Neutral you should get the prompt to fight either regular or True Neutral version of Lucifer.
Can this be done in the canon of vengeance?
Yes but unlike Canon of Creation it doesn't effect what ending you get
Hold on, 9:07. MHA reference?
So the level 80 one was just how he was in the base game?
No multiple phases or anything? Christ I can see how that would be underwhelming even more so in this game after the slog of fights that were Tiamet and Taho in Vengence, but I suppose you can view Lucifer as more of a victory lap than a true wall.
This Lucifer fight was in the base game as the final boss of true neutral but he was only level 90 and not nearly as powerful. It was really trivial to circumvent his star gimmick since they were all insanely frail in the og version. Here it's actually a bit of a challenge to get around morning star
Still no pierces on final boss is so stupid
Did one of Lucifer phases has Gaea Rage?
Non lethal version.
How do you get the lv 99 version 😮😮
Do the normal requirements for the Canon of Creation True Neutral Ending. Those being completion of the quests for
1. Amanozako
2. Fionn
3. Khonsu
4. Shiva
Although for Khonsu, there’s a very limited time to complete his quest in the Canon of Vengeance but it’s not hard to miss if you’re actively looking for it
@@jaffinator2166 Shiva shouldn't exist in the Canon of Vengeance though?
@@mrex666productions7Why wouldn't he? If Bethel exists, he would too.
@@ThusSpokeBushmasterZer0. Like is he even fightable there? I've read he isn't and he's only fightable in Canon of Creation