HBX 16889a PRO - size matters!
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2022
- The HBX 16889a Pro is definitely one of the best bashers out of the box. It’s loads of fun and is super durable, but one of its flaws is that it is hard to whip around in the air with its light tires. Let’s see if we can find a fix!
Initial review video: The RC car EVERYBODY NEEDS!! HBX 16889a PRO
• The RC car EVERYBODY N...
HBX 16889a PRO Truck: www.banggood.com/custlink/m33...
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my 16889a pro just got delivered today! yeeeewwwwwww! cheers for the nice vids mate.
Awesome choice!! Super exciting!! Thanks a bunch!!
I am running the Surpass hobby 35A ESC and 2440 4600kv motor and since last week I am running 1/16 Louise ST Pioneer and I love then. They are about 10mm bigger in diameter as the original and I can notice the extra top speed. The grip is great, had to turn down the punch level to avoid backflips at little throttle. Great little truck!
Sweet!!
You have some of the best videos out there, and your comment sections are pure gold for information. Thank you for the time you take to answer questions!
I have the Flyhal FC600, do you know if the 15mm wheel spacers and the mid size tires you showed will work for it?
Thanks, I appreciate that!
Yes those should work. It’s pretty much the same truck and the body is not any bigger so should work just fine 👍👍
I run mine on the seamingly useless tires that came on the 2995 with wheel spacers kinda the perfect balance of air control with no heat issues . Love your content brutha keep it up and happy new year 🤙
I am a huge fan of HBX. I took your recommendation and got a 2995. It rips as is. I love the way it handles. I did get bigger tires and a brushless HW set up. The same one you got. My car came with oil filled shocks. I already blew one apart. I am going to play with it more as is, before I swap the motor. I may use the 550 and esc transmitter from the 2995 in my Wltoy 12427. I have a dynamite 550 in it now. Thanks for the videos!! Keep bashing!!
Awesome! Your 2995 came with oil shocks?? That’s cool! Glad you like it. It’s definitely one of my favorites!!
I was surprised that it had oil shocks. Not much oil in them. I went back and watched your video again. The shocks that came on yours are completely different. I got blue aluminum with caps that unscrew. Like I said not much oil though. Maybe HBX upgraded the new ones. I like this car. Out of the box. It is way better than the Wltoys 12428.
Cool. Ya the oil upgrade shocks they sell for the 2995 are blue, so maybe they changed it. Interesting! I would just add some oil and let her rip!! Definitely a great car!!
You're videos are great and very informative! Hope you could make a video with the medium tire and spacers installed in it to check it's performance. 🙂
Thanks! 😃I may do that with the medium tires soon 😀👍👍
Cool RC and awesome bashing, cool flips, have a great weekend brother
Thanks man! You too! 👍
@@DerbyCityRC thank you
Great video, I really like the way you edit your video's.
Thanks buddy! I really appreciate that! By the way, keep running that 901a lol. All RCs break. It’s not the best for big jumps but a great car for a beginner and beyond!
Hey man, new here, can't stop watching your videos. Just bought my First car is a 16890a. Upgraded the wheels and have modeled it after this one basically. I destroyed the rear diff and the spur gear. Do you think I was just punching it too hard? I haven't put it through nearly as much. Now waiting on parts. Love how you include the kiddos in everything! Keep up the influencing.
Hey man, and thanks!!
Yes the harder punches will destroy the gears much quicker, however, I’m a hard puncher too and they lasted me quite a while. Landing jumps while still on the trigger is the biggest gear killer so practice letting go of the trigger no matter what before landing. And of course the bigger the tires, the harder on the gears and you want to be extra careful. Hope this helps!!
@DerbyCityRC were just watching your videos on your hbx 1/16 scales with some guys from work!!! May have some more people influenced! Flattered and flabbergasted you responded!! Much appreciated.
Cool man!! It’s relatively unknown how cool this hobby can be, and for how cheap you can get decent cars so that’s awesome!!
Thanks bro! 😎😃😃
@@DerbyCityRCso are these made in same factory as the Imex? Any place for brushless upgrades?
I don’t know anything about the Imex, but this one is already brushless. There’s a brushed version too and it absolutely can be upgraded 👍
I wasn't even into RC cars until I came across your videos. (Your edits are so clean and entertaining I'm not sure if I watch because of the cars or because of your talent in front of and behind the camera.) Anyway, I watched this video and bought this car. After a couple of runs, I'm just wondering - is there any post drive maintenance I should be doing?
Awesome man that’s so cool to hear!
Main things to do would be to check for screws/wheel nuts that have loosened.
Definitely not a bad idea to grease all the gears inside the differential but these hold up very well. These little cars are very low maintenance, so otherwise just check for damage each time and fix whenever necessary, which shouldn’t be very often, especially if you’re easier on them than I am.
@@DerbyCityRC Thanks for the tip. Also, I bought the wheels spacers and the mid sized monster truck tires. Do I need to drill a bigger hole in the wheels so the spacer fits?
Some wheels you do and some you don’t. I can’t remember if I had to on these but definitely possible.
It is a NUTs strong truck that Is bulletproof!!! I have the same tires as the first set you had on and love it. Its almost like running my Traxxas Hoss only a mini version 😁 Next hint for everyone, use the original tires and wheels on a 18859 or a Eachine EAT 10 I did and LOVE IT!
It sure is! Ya I can see those wheels working real well on the 18859a!
I'm eyeing that MT10. Looking forward to the review 🤘
Awesome! Working on that video now, so will be out sometime next week 👍👍
Hey, man. I'm glad that i found your channel. It will be my first RC and i definitely decided to buy the 16889a PRO. Can you give me an advise: better to order with 3 batteries or better to get with one battery and buy a few other aftermarket batteries, in that case do i need another charger?
I’m glad too!!
I would get the one with 3 batteries. The battery box is really small so very few batteries fit in it. Wouldn’t hurt to have a second charger. 👍👍
Thank you! Love the info! I’ve seen some aluminum alloy parts from China that include: Front Steering Cup, Rear Hub Carrier, Front Upper Arm, Front Lower Arm, Rear Lower Arm and Steering Bellcrank Set.
What are your thoughts on swapping the plastic pieces out for those on the 16889a Pro?
Thanks and you’re welcome!
I wouldn’t do it!
The aluminum parts have no flexibility. Would be a better set up for racing, but could cause more problems if jumping/bashing or if it crashes.
great vid! the editing is awesome. keep up the content!
Thanks man!! No plans on slowing down! Appreciate the awesome comment!
@@DerbyCityRCHello Dear Author! What is the diameter mm of these wheels???
@@DerbyCityRCCan I find the on your Aliexpress???
For the ESC try 3m VHB tape. It needs an hour or so to cure but nothing sticks better.
Ok thanks. Maybe setting some weight on it for an hour would do it some good too.
Appreciate it!
Shoe goo or CA glue instead of tape. It can be removed by soaking in acetone. I’ve only removed broken ESC’s so I don’t know if acetone is safe for working ESC’s. Not as convenient as tape, but it holds. It’s the only thing that would hold on my Arrma Granite.
Thanks. Ya I actually used shoe goo on two different cars. Still holding strong on one of them. Came off pretty easily on the other. I probably didn’t clean the other one off well enough lol.
@@DerbyCityRC CA glue has the added advantage of drying super fast. I thought it might be too brittle but it’s been holding.
Good to know!! Thanks
Hey! So I bought this truck recently BECAUSE of your videos. Love it so far, but am super green to this hobby. I wanted to try the wheels you’ve suggested, but need a little help with what size wheel spacers and what adapters I may need. Any advice??
Awesome! Glad I could help.
Here are the soccers I use. The 15mm ones. Be sure to use a little bit of blue loctite on the threads. amzn.to/3LPiUIy
@@DerbyCityRC you’re a godsend brother, thank you!
You’re welcome!
I'm trying to figure out an alternative solution for those front dogbone / axle pins. I've already started ordering packs of 400 thumbtacks for 3 bucks which I heat up the pin and pull it out of the plastic then trim the pin to length. I was experimenting with making a pin that would lock in place without the need for those springs as I've been losing a pin about every time I tumble this thing a few times. I'm using trimmed down nails for wheel hex pins. Fun little truck for sure at the skatepark, in tall grass I was desiring a bit more though and ordered an Mt10 after debating between the Granite. This hobby ended up being more fun than I anticipated, makes for a good duo with RC drifting, which was my first RC / build. :)
I don’t have any issues with the 2mm wheel pins, just the 1.5 mm axle pins like in this video. I tried to drill the dog one out and broke 2 drill bits lol. May try a 1.5 mm drill bit and cut it to length. Should be mischievous stronger
@@DerbyCityRC I suspect the pins might slip out between the spring on heavy twists and hard hits but I'm not sure. I haven't found any of the pins I've lost or potentially broken but I have a feeling they are falling out more so than breaking. I've considered soldering the pins in place even but I'm hesitant to do anything drastic quite yet.
That’s a possibility for sure. I would just do a drop of hot glue or super glue before soldering, but I agree it’s hard to tell. I know for sure my Holyton cars throw the springs, but the axles are junk on that car. They even would stay in their “stretched out” state lol
Mate i like you pace alot! Cheers!
Thanks bud!! Always appreciate your comments! 🤗
I appreciate you putting links to parts for this truck. Some other channels i follow dont do that and its pretty annoying when you ask them questions they dont even answer but want you to sub and buy their merch smh
Ya I do my best to answer as quick as possible! I agree that’s pretty frustrating!!
I’m glad you like the links. Thanks man!!
Bought the tires and hub extenders but mine has different cv joints. So I don’t really know what todo.
So yours is probably the one with plastic axles correct?
@@DerbyCityRC yea I ordered metal axles to swap everything out. I have cheap brushed Model but I got the brushless motor/esc Metal axles, metal gears, I bought every upgrade I could find for it. I’m having a blast upgrading these little Shit boxes.
Ya the upgrades are part of the fun!!
So you did figure it out then? All those metal upgrades should be all you need👍👍
Nice!!!
You really make some good content! Subscribed!
HBX really makes some awesome bashers.
Thanks!!!!!!!
Yes they do! Some of the best!
Those little hbx trucks are mighty little units. Might have to pick me up one after I finish my mt10 project.
Speaking of, I should have the hex hub extensions video up in 2 Mondays. Got a shock/ suspension tips video for this Sunday, and next Friday is a diff service video. That following Monday, is hub and chassis mods.
But if you'd like, I can give you the part number now, but keep in mind, the HR hubs have to be drilled to the correct axles stub size and then bolt right up. Or you can wait for more info from the video. I don't mind either way.
Thanks! Yes you seriously need one!
I watched one of your hub extension vids yesterday. I’ll keep an eye out for the other ones hen start planning how I’ll do my first wave of mods to the mt10 🤘😎👍
@@DerbyCityRC
Those worked great, but the hR fit so much nicer, they're less extensive to make work and it becomes a great example of how I could've done better. Lol
Lol! I’ll be looking for that vid! We’re all learning 🤣🤣
Use hot glue for the ESC. It works great sticks fast and you can peel it off.
Awesome! I will try that, thanks!
Apparently shoe goo is great to stick down the esc (from what I've read). Got a 16889a pro this week as a first RC.
I hotglued mine back in, and I originally accidentally positioned it in the way of the servo so used a heat gun to heat up the bottom of the chassis and then slid it over with no issue.
Awesome. I don’t think I’ve tried hot glue yet.
I actually have used shoe goo before. Held great on one car and failed on another. Probably didn’t clean it well enough lol
@@DerbyCityRC maybe roughen up the underside or melt little ridges or bumps if the plastic is smooth to enhance adhesion.
Yes I agree that would definitely help!
Thanks all your videos I'm assume about to buy haiboxing HBX 16889a pro what lipo 3's are you using in your truck and the size and name of the tires you upgraded to?..
I really don’t use 3s on it. I’ve done it a few times and it really doesn’t work well for me. Some people have had better luck.
These are the extra large tires, which I actually really like on it a lot now. amzn.to/3X8uTmC
If you prefer the medium size ones, it’s these: amzn.to/3lh6CgC
So I just mounted exactly the same big tires. Now the crash damping servo arm is giving in because the turning of the wheels requires to much force.
How did you overcome that?
Did you change the servo arm for a stiff one or are you still using the spring loaded crash damping servo arm that was originally in the car?
I didn’t change my servo saver at all. I don’t recall mine having poor steering afterwards. Definitely won’t be as good with the stock tires but I feel like it was manageable. You should be able to take it apart and add a spacer under the spring. I did it recently to a hypergo with a similar set up.
I just used one small snap ring to fit inside the spring seat. Hopefully that helps!
Great video! Thanks for showing some wheel n tire options. Thinking about getting this truck, myself, and an increase in tire size seems the right move from the get go. Quick question that I can't seem to find an answer on: does the ESC have low voltage cutoff? THX!
Thanks! Yes I really like the extra large tires actually. Put a heat sink on the motor and that helps a lot. Much faster!
Yes the esc seems to cut out when the battery is at 15% capacity. 👍
@@DerbyCityRC What's the diameter of the 903 tires you put on the car? I might go with an alternative in that size. THX!
They are about 95mm.
Do you not like those 903 wheels? What brand are you thinking?
@@DerbyCityRC 903 wheels are good, but keeping options open :) Also looking into an FC610 (HBX 2995 clone) and a brushless conversion for about the same price as the 16889a Pro with tire upgrade. Looking for more offroad clearance. Thoughts on the FC610/2995 vs. the 16889a Pro?
I already have a 2995, but I love it so much I also got an FC610, which is still in the box lol. With an upgrade, the 2995 is absolutely my favorite. Have you seen my 2995 videos? With a beefy motor set and some big tires, it’s a monster! Very durable too!
I have the fc 600 version of this and was wondering what your digestion would be for a faster motor. (Trying to create a monster lol)I'm new to the hobby so the more of a direct fit the better.
Digestion...lol...that would be a unique snack...suggestion...just love auto correct
Lol don’t eat the motor!!
To be honest, I haven’t done a motor swap on these yet, however the mjx HyperGo comes with a 4200kv and would be a perfect fit. It’s faster, but if you plan to use bigger wheels, it won’t work as well. If you want bigger tires or to test it up, I would try to stick with a 3300 kv
damn. today the new front tire flew off. the screw that holds the tire on axle came lose and the small metal bar is gone.
its rather bad that the tire screw isnt secured somehow.
did you paste your thread with light locktite to stop it from unscrewing itself?
Ya the loosening tire screw is common in a lot of cars unfortunately 😢
I have had to loctite them on some cars, I don’t remember if this was one but probably was it seems. Yes get you some blue loctite for them and that should solve it.
Are the spacers easy to install? When I do finally order a 16889A Pro, I'll probably order those 1/10 tires you linked (unless you can recommend a different set that is as or more budget friendly) and the spacers. If the spacers involve much more than just removing the stock wheels and screwing them on, it might be over my current knowledge LOL. I would probably install the factory 1/16 tires on my daughter's 18858 1/18. I wonder if those 903 tires would break my son's base model 16889? If I'm not mistaken, the 16889 is the same as 16889A, the "A" has a brushless motor as an upgrade? Meaning 16889A Pro (brushless & metal drivetrain) > 16889A (brushless + plastic drivetrain) > 16889 (brushed + plastic drivetrain)
Those stock tires would probably work well on the 18858. And I still really like those tires I linked for it.
The spacers are easy, though I can’t remember if I needed to drill the hole in the middle of the wheel out to allow the elongated nut to fit through it. Also, use a little loctite on the nut or they like to spin off sometimes. And yes you have that correct about the 16889 gang!! 🤣
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Hi, i was checking out the spacers required for the tire replacement, but i dont know which size to order, 15mm are the right ones? Thanks
Yes, 15mm is what I use.
Hello . I looked for a video comparing 16889 and 16103, but I couldn't find it. At less than $100, the 1/16 model, 16889 and 16103 look good, but it's my first time, so I can't tell which one is good or bad. What would be good to compare with the specs alone? Thank you. 감사합니다.
brand new to the hobby, what size spacers do you recommend for switching to the medium sized tires? Thanks!
I almost always use the 15mm
@@DerbyCityRC hey man, this video has inspired me so much, thanks.
I'm in the UK, need to find 15mm spacers to get a bit more stability. But, can you tell me what size tyre the medium ones are that you're using here, please? I like that size very much.
Thanks! 🤘
:Edit: it's ok, I see you mention about 95mm on another comment 🤘
Yup, 95mm, you got it!! 😃
I purchased the adapters and wheel/tire for mine and I have a phillips head screw holding the stock wheel/tire combo on. Did you change out the axles previously?
Oh so you probably don’t have the pro version. The 16889a and the 16890 use plastic axles with a screw, while the 16889a pro has the metal ones with nuts.
I’d your rear axles are already metal (which sometimes they are) then these guys here should be all you need to make it work on the rear. amzn.to/3Yydkxn
And these in the front: amzn.to/3jyZonO
Only problem is those plastic differential cups are still a weak link.
thank you so much for your fast reply and links to make things right
You’re welcome!
I don’t think I’m forgetting anything lol
if you put in bigger tires, you need to put in a larger motor because it could overheat. Same thing for the over-gearing. Am I right?
In theory you are correct, but hasn’t been an issue on this car. I also added a heat sink on the motor which helps somewhat too.
Hi.. We need the 12mm weehl spacers? Thx 4 your help. This week we get our hbx 16889 pro..
You could get by without them, but may need to turn the steering rate down to keep the tires from rubbing on the body shell. I think it makes it handle better by widening the stance if you do install spacers.
Hi we have today get the teyers of the hbx 903 an put tehm on the hbx16889 brushless but not the pro version.. Very fast and funny to drive but every 5 min the motor stop because in getting to hot.. Is the hbx16889 pro better for the bigger weahls
That’s interesting. We have them on our 16890. It does get hot but takes longer than 5 minutes. I would see if you can find a heat sink for the motor
For the type of use you give it, the bigger tires with a motor heatsink and fan looks like the best combo. The only question is where to plug in the fan since the esc as no connections left...
I’ve thought about that. That would definitely be great if I can find a way to make that work! Potentially with a small second battery for the fan.
@@DerbyCityRC I've seen people soldering the fan directly to the motor or the wire from the esc that connects to the battery. Never tried but my brushed 16889 keeps cutting out after 15min of bashing on 30 degrees Celsius since the idiot from the factory Covered the motor vent hole. The only thing I know is that the fan should be rated at least 12v to allow easily a 2s lipo or even a 3s. Don't know if the wires of this fans are thick enough to allow direct connetion to the esc battery terminal or if they are going to melt with the energy and heat...
I’d rather do it neater than that just in case. Atleast with a universal plug that can be soldered on. That way you can disconnect
Make a plug that connects to the balance connector on the battery.
I guess that would work. Have you seen that or done it yourself?
So....2 things...I lost the little screw that goes on end of drive shaft that holds drive gear I place. Any idea where I could order one? Does not come with gear itself or if you order a new drive shaft. Also, I keep stripping the drive gear because there is just too much play back and forth with drive shaft. Like it does not fit up tight to differential. Any ideas on how to fix that problem?
The screw may be a lost cause. I believe it’s supposed to come with the driveshaft and it never does. Might be able to find one at a hardware store but very possible you won’t. I believe it’s this video here where I show what I did for mine. Basically put a little rubber spacer in it. ruclips.net/video/iGRHnO78p5I/видео.html
If that doesn’t also solve your driveshaft moving issue, you could try putting a shim between the inside diff pinion bearing and the pinion gear.
@@DerbyCityRC I swapped the front screw for the rear and put a shim inside the axle cup to keep the drive gear tight with differential gear. So far no issues and it even sounds better. Nice clean wind up and no grinding. I also swapped the front and rear drive gears because the front was still like new. I ordered a new axle and says it comes with both screws. We shall see. Thanks for your help again.
@joefoto awesome! You’re welcome!
Dude, your a fantastic RUclipsr!
Question, I saw in other videos you have added a heat sink to the motor.
Does it help adequately to keep the heat down with the big 1/10 tires?
How long can these guys run without having to worry about the heat bro. Your experience?
Thanks man!!
Yes it definitely helps some. Seems to do very well with the big tires. Obviously still gets hot but it doesn’t cut out as much like it used to when it got hot. On a real hot day it seemed like it would need to take a break after 7-10 minutes. Now it usually makes it a whole battery pack.
Good to know, Thanks for the response.
I’m going to run a run time test with both stock and oversized tires once I get the heat sinks in then and see how long I can run it both ways.
I run rc rocket league sim games with youth. Normally use a brushed 100 dollar deerc truck but overheating occurs on the second 1500ma battery, also run a bashed/freestyle rink event (monster jam) The deerc trucks overheat and break too easily. They are 1:12s but hoping maybe this truck will put perform on both fronts.
So far, testing out stock versus OS the air control and starting power is massively different.
For sure, the monster jam makes complete sense using this car with the large tires!!! It’s incredible how well it flips.
You’re welcome!!! That sounds super cool!
@@DerbyCityRCjust following up a bit from before, got a good amount of these little tricksters and worked on upping the wheel sizes. One thing noticed in the process is that the extensions fit really snug and would require a bit of sanding down to fit right in the wheels. Upgraded a few and gave up on the extensions and just did tires only, I’m sure they will rub though but will send all them down to get it wrapped up if it rubs too much.
Also, the pro is now coming with stock heat sinks.
I also tried some with the 80 weight oil in the shocks and my opinion is that it bounces a bit more with the 80w than w the stock oil.
Thought I’d share my thoughts anyway
Hi got a question im having trouble with my build 16890 after changing to metal parts the wheels are wobbling what to do? How will it fit like plastic parts do
Is it in the rear? I have a video on this procedure. The new axles for the rear are slightly too long and there is a fix for that.
ruclips.net/video/m-x9L0rhafo/видео.html
Hey I got a 16889a pro and am looking for a slightly larger tire, i am looking to make it easier on short grass. any suggestions? also i've read i'm supposed to change the gear ratio if i put very large tires on, not exactly sure what that means or what part i'd be looking for. any help is greatly appreciated
The car works very well with both of the fires on this video and I haven’t needed to change the gear ratio. For short grass I would go with the medium one so use here because I think it would tip over to easy in grass with the larger ones
Hi, friend. I have a problem with my hbx16889a pro, I bought it new and when I raise the car and give gas and release with the car in hand, or raised it makes a noise as if they were bearings or the transmission shafts were short and then it has looseness . the car is new, do you know if this is normal?
I hope I have explained myself well, a strong greeting, you are the best!!!
It’s really hard to tell off that explanation. Some minor noises could be normal, but this one may not be. Have you reached out to the seller?
there's also a fairly similar truck on bang good for i think 30 bucks less. Same brushless motor esc/receiver, chassis... but it's a stadium truck
Name: Eachine Flyhal fc 600
Yup that’s a good deal!!
Hello my new friend 😊❤️ I'm really interesting in world of rc do you recommend this new A pro version than normal brushless version? I'm seeing the difference shock and metal gear.
Hello.
Yes I recommend the people version 👍👍
@@DerbyCityRC thanks a lot
You’re welcome!
Would you recommend this truck over the one you pulled the bigger tyres off
Yes, but check out my newest video for a truck I recommended even more lol
Both are awesome though!
I use umber plate double sided tape on my esc i guess it will be called registration plate tape in your country works a treat👍
Awesome thanks!!
What king of grease do you use for the differentials and geatbox? Thx
I usually use Red N Tacky
amzn.to/41deDEe
Do u have a tutorial video on how to replace it with that bigger tyres?
I do not unfortunately. A lot of my videos show the basics of removing wheels and adding the spacers though
@@DerbyCityRC thanks for the reply!
What tool do i need to buy the take out the stock tires? Because it doesnt come with it.
You should just need a wheel wrench. Standard 7mm nuts is all that holds them on
I still gotta order this! Sent back the regular version a few months ago... I loved it but there was something wrong with it that I couldn't fix no matter how many times I took it apart. Can't remember what the problem was! 😂
My girl keeps asking me what I want for my birthday and I'm trying to decide between this, the 18th scale hbx pro version, or possibly the 901a HBX. Something tells me to go with this since I loved it so much and I'm going to get the upgraded shocks, gears and brushless but I'm also thinking the 18th scale version will be brutally tough at the skatepark but as far as just looks that desert buggy looks the best.
You probably made the right choice with the Rival MT over the Redcat but I just am absolutely in love with my Redcat because it's brutally tough and handle so well but with the Rival you'll get a Center differential... and if you go back and look at the killer off-road hobby RUclips channel and how much brutality he put the Helion Avenge through it does seem pretty awesome. I actually had the Helion Avenge a few years ago when it first came out but got rid of it too soon because I had so many RCs. The Helion Avenge became the Rival Mt but the Helion body looked a lot better.
It would be a pretty fair assessment from years of research to say that the Rival MT is the king but the Redcat A arma are tougher but the Granite is the fastest out the box.
Yes out of those I would go with this pro version. Have you seen my pro vs 901a video?
Ya the rival is awesome. Surprised how well it handles! Not insanely fast (on 2s) but extremely fun! That video will be out in the next couple days I think!
@@DerbyCityRC yeah, I've watched all your good videos I just re-watched the 901 a comparison! Very excited to see you with the 10th scale monster truck! Pretty sure it's possible we'll see some double backflip for what about those double front flip! 😂 you know what I used to do a lot summer2019? Front flips two back flips and backflips the front flips with my 6s Typhon!
Nice! Ya it can’t do too much flipping on 2s. Gonna do 3s soon and I think that will be a different story! Still extremely fun on 2s. Handles very well!
@@DerbyCityRC do you ever just run monster trucks and RC's without jumping them and bashing them hard? My guess is no because you can just put a ramp right out front and nothing's more fun than jumping! I can stay though after three years of bashing really hard the past couple years I've really enjoyed just running on grass and gravel and watching the suspension go up and down and donuts as opposed to just go in the huge. I'm so thankful RC is in my life even if music and drumming is my first love RC seems to be a close second!
I do, but it’s rare lol. Even when I get my WL toys 144001 out, I can’t help myself and end up jumping it lol. I don’t like rubbing through grass much, but I would love a nice gravel/dirt area. I’ve been looking for one. Besides the big dirt patch in my yard lol!
First tease of the mt10……this is gonna be good!
That’s right!! As long as the twins are cooperating, I’ll be running it tonight!! 🤣
When you relevant that little pin for axle, where do you get those pins?
The 2mm pins to hood the wheel hex to the axle, I buy from Amazon. I don’t remember what size the pin that holds the two axle parts together but I think it’s either 1.5mm or 1.75 mm. Sometimes I make my own from a piece of proper sized drill bit, but you may be able to find stock rod to cut to fit from Amazon.
@@DerbyCityRC thank you. Is there a trick to getting that spring off too?
You’re welcome.
A small sharp pick, and some patience lol
Did you ever try this set up with 3s? If so can you provide a link please? Thanks dude
I did 3s here, which was awesome, but it can be glitchy. It’s a different car but very similar. Basically just a slightly smaller motor. ruclips.net/video/CWj3yyJ2rAg/видео.htmlsi=zeyqXEoiwLoM0dHe
And then watch this one: ruclips.net/video/-9qjYziR1kw/видео.htmlsi=Pct_t49uCCq1Eyb2
Lol it’s my newest 16889 setup!
you sir got me on the taste, damn that looks fun
Awesome, thanks!
Every time I order a pinion gear for my Hbx pro they keep sending me the pinion gear that fits on the brushed motor which has a smaller hole on it. Can you please send me the link to get the right pinion gear
I’ve never needed to order one and I’m having trouble finding it too.
Go to Haiboxing-hobby.com and send them an email if it’s not on the website.
Bro, love your videos, bought hyper go and 16889a pro cause of u!!! Wanna get bigger tires for pro, stock suck!!!
Awesome!! Yup those bigger tires in this video became my favorite!
Awesome vid!! What did you use for the mentioned wheel spacer on the larger wheels?
Thanks! Wooos forgot to add those!
I used these. amzn.to/3sPdjaN
15mm?
Correct 👍 12 mm wheel hex, with a space of 15 mm
Thanks
@@yonibettan you’re welcome!
Took 5 of these beasts with me to grandma’s house to have the nephews try and brake them at the skate park around the corner. Had to wait till sun went down because darn skate boarders were using the park… can you imagine?!? Skaters using the skatepark?
Anyway, 5 16889A pros with different bodies ordered to help differentiate at dusk till super dark with headlights running. All upsized 1:10 scale wheels, couple had 15mm spacers the others we did not put spacers. Added two heat sinks to aid in non stop action and just keep swapping fresh batteries.
After about 90 minutes of trying to destroy these trucks with five kids from 13 to 20 years old, the worse issues we had:
1. Batteries falling out often as we beat them senseless
2. Two trucks have some body breakage on the front end
3. One trucks ESC came loose from the two sides tape and was slipping between the steaming arm and chassis to restrict steering, nothing three small zip ties couldn’t fix in a minute.
90 minutes of launching these things from 3’ to 15’ flipping in the air to land in the bottom of a 10’ half pipe… some were really bad falls… one of which caused the Esc to break loose as noted. Otherwise they are all just fine and ready for more!!!!!
where did you find different bodies?
What dogbones are you using for the spacer conversion?
Same dog bones. Adding the spacers just push the wheels out further because the wheel hex is longer. Axle stays the same.
Whats the black thing that keeps coming off the truck in multiple videos?
If I remember right I think it’s the heat sink I put on the motor.
Re: hbx 2995 ; do you know if it's been rebranded or anything, it's not available on aliexpress anymore. (Amazon is very expensive to ship to New Zealand)... Looking for something that runs better on grass playing fields and parks.
Actually this car right here is the 2995, with a few upgrades like oil shocks and better tires. Definitely recommend this one. Also i just looked and there is a coupon code for it. Use this link: www.banggood.com/custlink/DG3hkbkhw6
and this coupon code: BGe6baf1
Hopefully this one works!
@@DerbyCityRC Thanks, unfortunately that won't ship to New Zealand, BC it's USA warehouse stock only.
Dang that stinks. This is the only other one I know of, but it’s Amazon too
amzn.to/3lBNRkV
Another great video... I just got mine and am waiting for my charger before I charge up a 3S to run this truck in! I was going to try some different tyres, ordered some bigger ones, when I chanced upon your clip! Question is, do you think this truck runs faster on bigger tyres? I can't wait to find out on mine...
Thanks! Yes I do believe the top speed would be a bit more, just seemed to have slower acceleration. Maybe I was just being easier on it lol
Hopefully, it does go faster when I test it with bigger tyres. It's just that it can be difficult to find long stretches of space to try such a speed run but we'll see!
I agree it can be tough!! Especially for one of the plans I have coming up soon!! 🤣😬😎
Can't wait to see what you're going pull next... Well, I live in a country where space is literally a luxury!
I’m hoping it works 🤣
Ya not much space in my neighborhood as you may be able to tell lol. I understand!
Number plate tape is great for the esc
Good to know!
Hi has anyone found a better battery that fit s right in
do you know if the original wheels will work with the spacers?
They will👍👍
Though I can’t remember, you might have to drill the center out from 4mm to 5 mm. I can’t remember. Some come 4 and some already come with 5mm.
Did you figure out what oil weight works best for this truck. Im about to order some losi oil.
I do really like the way it rides with 80. I haven’t tried higher than that yet, but honestly think it would do even better with 100. It still bottoms out even when just dropping it from a foot or two. But it’s possible all their shocks are not manufactured with the exact same internal tolerances so i wouldn’t be too surprised if you had slightly differently results than I do.
@@DerbyCityRC cool man ty....did you see the new 1/16 hyper go brushless buggy? Looks bad ass!
I have not seen it! I wonder if it’s the same thing with a different body.
Hello friend, the differentials of this car have 2 pinions, unlike other cars that have 4? it's possible?
Yes these only come with 2. You can upgrade to the 2995 differentials which come with 4 and they fit right in.
@@DerbyCityRC thank you man, you are the best!¡!
@oskartubekp you’re welcome!!
Clean surfaces with acetone before applying your tape. That’s why it isn’t sticking well… too much dirt/debris in there. Little truck is a monster!
Yes that would help lol, sometimes even when I do clean it, or of course if it’s never come off before, it still comes off. A higher quality tape should do the trick also. Yes, love these trucks!!
I think the mid-sized tires would work best. More air control with not as much strain on the motor, I wonder if they will perform better with the wheel spacer like you mentioned. Excellent video as always sir! Thank you
Thanks my friend! I agree with you and will be putting those spacers on the mid sized wheels soon. More than likely that’s how I’ll end up keeping it 👍👍
I second this good sirs! Mid sized w spacers for the win?!?!
Actually!!! The next time I ran it with the larger tires, it did great!! Check this out!
ruclips.net/video/zS1oNsbvHPk/видео.html
@@DerbyCityRC hey man....I ordered the mid sized ones and I've been running them for awhile and it's a beast....basically wheelie forever if u adjust wheelie bar. But..my front diff just stripped a few teeth...mostly the gear that's on the end of the driveshaft. Where should I get some more gears...and can I get better quality ones? Thanks
I’m glad you like it! I agree, it is a beast! Do you have the pro version with the metal gears as well?
Did you use the 12mm spacers?
I used 15mm
Is there any other of the same brand batteries that will work, I am in Australia and the link won't deliver the batteries, and the battery companies warehouse here doesn't list that particular battery either
Was it the Urgenex I used in this video?
If not here’s those: amzn.to/3i6gTez
I haven’t used these yet but I have had good luck with the Zeee brand. These should work similarly: amzn.to/3hZ4U2v
The other ones I use a lot, are Ovonic, and they seem to be out of stock right now 😢
@@DerbyCityRC It was the Ovonic used in this video, I will have a look at the other link, thanks very much for responding, greatly appreciated.
You’re welcome!
What size is the pin in the front drive shaft? I lost mine and dont know what to replace it whit.
The pins like the ones I replaced in the video are 1.5 mm. I usually just cut 1.5mm body clips to the right size, which I believe is 10 mm long. I haven’t been able to find the correct pins, though you can probably get them from the manufacturer. I just want ones that are stronger.
@@DerbyCityRC wait...you use body clips for drive shaft pins? Wouldn't that bend easy?
You would think but they’ve held up pretty well. Quality pre-cut pins are definitely better. 🤘😎
very good video. Do you have the link for the shock oil?
Thanks!! Yes, this is the stuff I used right here. amzn.to/3xVCZ7t
I actually got the set with several different weight oils, but this 80 is what I used 👍
@@DerbyCityRC thanks. I put 700 cst on my 16889a pro but the suspension was too stiff.
Interesting. That can happen if you overfill them so I would check that just in case. I found the 80 wt worked pretty well.
Cool, sehr schöne jumps brou, heißes Rc car, dicken fetten daumen nach oben für dein Video 🏎💨💨👍👍👏👏
Thanks my RC bro!! Really appreciate that!!
Olá Amigo!
Eu tenho um hbx 16890, gostaria de saber se posso usar uma bateria 3s nele?
E qual é a as medidas das rodas big que vc colocou como eu as encontro tem algum link para me indicar??
Desde já obrigado 🙏🏾
Hello! I haven’t found a 3s battery that fits correctly yet. I usually just strap one inside ontop of the chassis brace.
Here is a link to those tires 👍👍www.banggood.com/custlink/
Dvmdskstba
Eu comprei estes baterias que deve ser perfeito. Não vão durar como os mais grandes mas fiquem menos pesados de certeza.
Yes the biggest setback on this truck is the size of the battery tray. 👍👍
Is it 12mm hex hub extension that u used to fit those very large tires?
Cheers!
I mean the length of the hex hub extension that u used. Thanks!
I use 15mm actually.
Is just the hex hub extension that i need if i want to replace it with the oversized tire like u do?
Because it looks so awesome with the oversized tires.
No issues with the oversized fitted?
@Axeman31 yes thts all you need. A stronger servo would be good but not necessary. Just be a bit more mindful with it as the bigger tires put much more strain on everything. These are solid cars and still lasted for me.
Thanks for the reply! U r a legend!
Did u replace the servo of urs when u fit the oversized tires?
link to second set of tires? the MT ones
yup, just added to desc. Here they are for you! www.banggood.com/custlink/Dvmdskstbq
Decent man ordering tommorow 🙏🙏 quick question mate when ordering a screwdriver set do I need a hex head or Phillips head set mate and also what mm is needed for use on the screws please 🙏💚👊
That’s great! This truck is all Phillips. I don’t recall it having anything else. So a #1 Phillips, but lots of cars do take the hex head, so if you order a set of those you will want 1.5, 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0 mm.
@@DerbyCityRC thankyou mate much apreciaited man!
You’re very welcome!!
@@DerbyCityRC subbed 🙏💚👊
Thanks man!! 🤘😎👍
Best channel I’ve seen.
Thanks man!! 👍👍
@@DerbyCityRC your video are very
Entertaining informative and your B.S. is great, especially as your willing to help with posting links to
Parts and hole items! Would love to see you do a video on the infraction’s. Keep up the good work! 🙏👍👌🏻🤙🏻
Thanks! My main goal is entertainment and informativity! I do want an infraction, so hopefully soon!
I did do some drifting with my new Senton a month or so ago if you haven’t seen that video yet lol
@@DerbyCityRC I’m slowly but surely going through every video some I’ve actually watched a lot of your videos more than once there that good! I so want a 1/8 INFRACTION 4X4 3S BLX but there so much money in the uk and not being able to work doesn’t help! But honestly please keep up the great work! 🤟🏻🤟🏻
Thats awesome! I rewatch some of my old videos and I’m like, “man that was horrible!” Lol
But back then I thought it was great.
Always trying to improve and so glad you’re enjoying them!
Hopefully the price comes down for you soon!
did you use the 15mm injora spacers?
never mind, i found below in the comments, thx!
You’re welcome!
I have the brushed version of this. Where do you get parts for this. I want to get shocks and bigger tires to start then eventually get all metal parts
Most of the parts come from Banggood. I could get you some links if you need them.
A few of the less popular parts that Banggood doesn’t have or is commonly out of stock on, can be found at haiboxing-hobby.com
@@DerbyCityRC I found the oil shocks on banggood. My problem is I'm not sure what tires I should get. I don't want the factory ones, I want a bigger more rock crawler kind. Just worried I might order the same size and not be happy.
So the larger tires that I have on it in this video are actually much better than they were when I filmed this. My battery must have been dying on me.
Have you seen this video? I haven’t even taken them off. They work so well for my style. That’s mixed with 80wt fluid in the stock shocks that come on the pro version. Double backflips and double front flips with pretty stable landings.
I would worry a little bit about the brushed motor handling those tires though.
ruclips.net/video/zS1oNsbvHPk/видео.html
@@DerbyCityRC yes I have watched. I want the first set you put on. Not the really big ones lol. Like you said I'm worried about the brushed version handling the really big ones
Gotcha. Makes sense! I think I have the link to those tires in the description of this video. Let me know if you need a fresh one.
Thanks!
Can anybody help for me? My pro has a problem. The Back suspension is too soft. And it’s still soft if I roll all the way in the spring it won’t come up all the way up.
I need a stronger spring. Can anybody send me a link where can I buy a pair. From banggood or Aliexpres? Thank you.
They all do this for some reason. One thing you could do is use the springs from an hbx 901a, but they may be too strong as I haven’t tried it on that car.
Could potentially even stretch out the stock springs and put them back on but I don’t like that idea. If it handles nice, I’d leave it alone.
Can’t find the parts on Banggood, but try Pxtoysrc.com and click on Haiboxing parts 👍
@@DerbyCityRC thank you for your quick response and help. I will try the link what you sent. 💪🏽🤘🏻
You’re welcome!!
Does this truck take a bigger motor? When I look at your video I think I see room available.
I also would like to know
I’m sure it could, but I haven’t tried yet. Definitely will be trying soon 👍👍
Can it turn around when lying on the roof only due to throttle with oversized tyres?
It cannot 😭 it gets close, but not enough power to do it quickly enough!
I run mine on 3s, with average size tires mine can "self-right" itself with the punch it has
That’s pretty sweet! It wouldn’t self right even with the big tires on 2s lol. Got close though!
The link for you battery says unavailable… any other recommendation??
I don’t remember which battery I showed in this video. I use these quite a bit and they currently show available. Do these show up for you?
amzn.to/3Ya069D
Yes! Thank you!! Also, very excited to try the large tires! Thanks for the great vids!!🙌🏼
Awesome!
Thanks for watching!!
Do the bigger wheels increase the top speed?
In theory they would, yes. I just haven’t tested the difference.
How much run time on the upgraded battery?
I can’t remember for sure. Wanna say 20 minutes.
Will these same tires and spacers fit on the jjrc q117?
They should, but I have not tried.
Did you see me upgrade video on the JJRC cars? I tried a different set of tires.
@DerbyCityRC nice, ill have to check it out. Thanks for the reply!! Love your content!
@stevenkeil7869 you’re welcome man, thanks!
Where can I get the axel pins at thank you
These guys right here!
amzn.to/3F1WZJf
Hey Derby have you found it necessary to redo the diff grease?
I haven’t given it much thought lol.
Are you talking for performance or lubrication?
I can’t remember if my standard 16889a had much in there or not. Definitely didn’t have any actual oil, but I do believe it was lubed up. Those were the old plastic gears though.
@@DerbyCityRC for lubrication and longevity but if you never have with the way you beat the crap out of yours then that answers my question lol. Im the type to wait for it to break instead of fixing what isnt broken.
Lol me too!!
Cuz I know it’s eventually gonna break anyway 😀🤣
@@DerbyCityRC 🎯
Did you have problems with the motor cutting out with the oversized tires ?
I believe it has very minor cogging. No issues other than that. I was very surprised. It runs really well on these tires!
Love the tires but mine pauses for 1 min of so after a while then goes again. Owner ding if it was the esc or motor but love this set up
It could be. Mine seems to do that on hot days, but it even did it with the stock tires. Doesn’t seem to be as bad on cooler days. I did put a heat sink on my motor. Maybe that would help.
I think a little softer springs wouls be better to prevent too much rebound. 80wt should be more than enough for that little truck.
Yes the springs may help. Something to consider with shock weight though, is that these shocks are likely not built to the tolerances that a higher end brand is. So I agree in theory 80 wt should be enough, it still may not be because the pistons are not as tight to the bore as they should be. That’s just a thought/theory of mine but definitely makes sense.
@@DerbyCityRC hey which heat sink would you recommend for the 16889a pro motor?
This one right here [US$4.99 45% OFF]HBX 16889 1602 1/18 Spare Motor Heatsink Engine Radiator M16036 RC Car Vehicles Model Parts RC Parts from Toys Hobbies and Robot on banggood banggood.onelink.me/zMT7/7a9qtomy
@@DerbyCityRC Awesome man. Thanks for the reply! Ordered the midsized wheels.
Awesome! You’re welcome!!
YUP - That is the problem with my HBX 16889A PRO - The rear diff cups on mine are LONGER than the ones on your HBX 16889A PRO! Damn!
Team Associated MT10, that's been on my wish list of proper grown up Rc's cars to get for sooo many months maybe 1 day, also I was convinced Rubbage (prevent body rubbage) wasn't a word.....turns out it is..😅
You will get it one day!
Basically any word plus -age is a word in my vocabulary! 🤣🤣
I think the medium tyres would be best. It's great to see how durable these cheap HBXs are, even with the extra strain of the large tyres. Your son not join you bashing today? :-(
Actually after running with the extra big tires on it more, they’re my favorite!
No he was at his grandparents house and I had to get that in before the rain. But he’s in a couple that are already recorded 👍👍
Size of the tyres ?
Anyone know where and which motor heat sink I could get for the hbx 16889a pro? Thanks
did you get one? my pro came with one already built in.
@johnmachter40 yes found one lying around a slapped it on....rhat truck seems to eat diffs tho...specially with bigger wheels on.
@@Yobro04 damn... i just ordered 1/10 wheels... which wheels did break your diffs? you run it on 2s or 3s battery?
@johnmachter40 I think maybe the wheels in the video not sure....I was on 3s this last time so that may have been the culprit...after the first time a ate a gear I replaced and put lube in there and seemed to work better.
@johnmachter40 I believe they ended up adding it to the cars after some time.
Have you had a play with the new hbx 16890a yet?
Not yet. Trying to get one pretty soon! We’ll see!!
@@DerbyCityRC I'm curious to see what you think about it having the original of both the 16890 and 16889 aswell as the 16889a pro👍
I’m curious too! Hopefully soon!
I really like the bigger tires! But if its gonna over heat the motor and electronics than the slightly smaller tires would be best. Those tires seam to help it fly better though. I guess you may have to take Micks advice in the movie “Rocky”- “pick the one in the middle!” 😂😆💪🏼🇺🇸
I agree! I may try a fan set up on it later too! But yes for now I think I’ll “go with the one in the middle” and use the wheel spacers 😃 🔥
Oh yeah… I forgot to to say that, I think your going to love that TA Rival MT10! It’s as tough as nails and is a freakin hoot ! I ❤️ mine! Just make sure you tighten those wheel nuts each time before you drive! It’s gotta be one of the best out there IMO!
Just drove it for the first time! Yes it’s awesome! Handles extraordinarily well! I was very surprised with the short and narrow wheel base, but it’s almost as stable as the Kraton!
@@DerbyCityRC glad you like it Evan!👍🏻😎
🤘😎👍