This is something I used to try to explain to people at social events back when I was known as the 'MBTI' guy haha, trying to explain that it's not really about behaviour but more a wiring and framing. But I get the feeling it's hard to understand - I guess even for myself, how wildly different people of the same personality 'type' can be, while still having the same cognitive functions. And yet I still think someone's 'type' is very meaningful.
Just the wiring diagram, yet helpful to understand that the pattern you (or I) resort to: "sift through possibilities, no matter how long it takes, to find the greatest benefit/least harm." As opposed to: "take in what is real, use it to sort out what is true." And yes, sometimes people of the same type have mannerisms that are really similar, even when they have a completely different look and feel. I'm still an amateur here who gets lots of it wrong, even after all this time...!
This is so important for the mbti community. I’m glad you said it. The tests are just measuring in whatever way they can, but it's not ideal, you're right. I’m Canadian and we had commercials when I was a kid about Canadian heritage called “Heritage Minutes”. There was one about “the medium is the message”. I can’t pretend that I fully understand the theory haha so sorry if it’s a bit patchy. The theory is that, say, a television has a message that it sends out to its viewers…but what's more important is how the television itself is changing the world in a hundred different ways…therefore “the medium is the message”. It’s interesting how you’ve come to a similar conclusion here. It’s not about what a person’s message is (what they’re doing or saying)…it’s the medium that sets up how you see and process that world, and how that changes our own little worlds we all live in. Or something like that haha I don’t know. Very interesting.
"The medium is the message" was coined by fellow Canadian Marshall McLuhan -- I'm impressed you heard about that! A great catch for a great phrase, and still very relevant. The collection of media streams that we engage with nowadays are novel -- it's reshaping us, in a way. Whether that's good or bad is a separate question (open discussion at 11:00 😉). It came in part from watching folks on Reddit asking about their type. There was one person recently who was so obviously high Ne ... that person would confront what looked like a straightforward question ... then ponder, then struggle over what the question actually meant and how to answer it. Very obvious not by what they said, but by how they expressed themselves, that this was someone highly intuitive. It was a sight to see.
@@dulles1969 Oh thank you! :) Those little commercials came in handy haha That’s so true! I can see what you’re saying. For instance if the question is “are you an organised person who likes to take care of yourself?”...I don’t know!! I’m organised in some ways…I don’t “like” to take care of myself…but I do it or at least try…so I don’t know how to answer that…because saying “yes” feels like a lie and saying “no" also feels like a lie... Haha, that's very interesting that you observed that…it makes a lot of sense. I know it does for me at least
Yeah, I can convince myself of anything given the right particular information. -I don’t really want to be an INFJ, keep coming to the epiphany I am- Thank You Dulles what you said is familiar to me as I try to analyze myself.
I think (hope) everyone has a road to typing themselves. I have the good fortune of knowing two INFJs well. It's eerie: they've never met, don't know each other, different genders, cultures, backgrounds ... yet they are almost identical in the way they express themselves. Not that they're cookie-cutter, but it's wild. Fingers crossed on your self-exploration... from what little I know, INFJ is a tough journey.
This is something I used to try to explain to people at social events back when I was known as the 'MBTI' guy haha, trying to explain that it's not really about behaviour but more a wiring and framing. But I get the feeling it's hard to understand - I guess even for myself, how wildly different people of the same personality 'type' can be, while still having the same cognitive functions. And yet I still think someone's 'type' is very meaningful.
Just the wiring diagram, yet helpful to understand that the pattern you (or I) resort to: "sift through possibilities, no matter how long it takes, to find the greatest benefit/least harm." As opposed to: "take in what is real, use it to sort out what is true."
And yes, sometimes people of the same type have mannerisms that are really similar, even when they have a completely different look and feel. I'm still an amateur here who gets lots of it wrong, even after all this time...!
This is so important for the mbti community. I’m glad you said it. The tests are just measuring in whatever way they can, but it's not ideal, you're right.
I’m Canadian and we had commercials when I was a kid about Canadian heritage called “Heritage Minutes”. There was one about “the medium is the message”. I can’t pretend that I fully understand the theory haha so sorry if it’s a bit patchy. The theory is that, say, a television has a message that it sends out to its viewers…but what's more important is how the television itself is changing the world in a hundred different ways…therefore “the medium is the message”. It’s interesting how you’ve come to a similar conclusion here. It’s not about what a person’s message is (what they’re doing or saying)…it’s the medium that sets up how you see and process that world, and how that changes our own little worlds we all live in. Or something like that haha I don’t know. Very interesting.
"The medium is the message" was coined by fellow Canadian Marshall McLuhan -- I'm impressed you heard about that! A great catch for a great phrase, and still very relevant. The collection of media streams that we engage with nowadays are novel -- it's reshaping us, in a way. Whether that's good or bad is a separate question (open discussion at 11:00 😉).
It came in part from watching folks on Reddit asking about their type. There was one person recently who was so obviously high Ne ... that person would confront what looked like a straightforward question ... then ponder, then struggle over what the question actually meant and how to answer it. Very obvious not by what they said, but by how they expressed themselves, that this was someone highly intuitive. It was a sight to see.
@@dulles1969 Oh thank you! :) Those little commercials came in handy haha
That’s so true! I can see what you’re saying. For instance if the question is “are you an organised person who likes to take care of yourself?”...I don’t know!! I’m organised in some ways…I don’t “like” to take care of myself…but I do it or at least try…so I don’t know how to answer that…because saying “yes” feels like a lie and saying “no" also feels like a lie...
Haha, that's very interesting that you observed that…it makes a lot of sense. I know it does for me at least
Yeah, I can convince myself of anything given the right particular information.
-I don’t really want to be an INFJ, keep coming to the epiphany I am-
Thank You Dulles what you said is familiar to me as I try to analyze myself.
I think (hope) everyone has a road to typing themselves.
I have the good fortune of knowing two INFJs well. It's eerie: they've never met, don't know each other, different genders, cultures, backgrounds ... yet they are almost identical in the way they express themselves. Not that they're cookie-cutter, but it's wild.
Fingers crossed on your self-exploration... from what little I know, INFJ is a tough journey.