He can cover 9+10 for the springboks if we want to do a 7/1 split and would be perfect on a 6/2 split coming on with manie having nohamba kicking at the post,idk why his not getting a chance.
@@myshepspud1not anymore Wilco louws scrummaging is unmatched there isn’t a single prop he’s scrummed into the floor he’s even taken on ox nche and came out the winner
Howzit Jordan. Really enjoy your content. Listening to this the sound quality is a little edgy. (sort of echo) I know setting a studio is a bit OTP, but maybe hang a few curtains to absorb the reverb?!? Other than that....your squad is about right I reckon. But that's just me, what do I know.
Bok coach Rassie Erasmus would have noted how the Boks topped most of the attack, defense and kicking stats in the Rugby Championship, but finished dead last in the department of goal kicking. Please tell Rassie that the Springboks need a 90% goal kicker like Pollard, without whom the Boks would NEVER have won the last 2 world cups!! 🏉
@@RUGGARUGBY What about these: Francke for an Elrich or Kwagga Sanele for Cobus Henco for Jesse Quan for Willie We are playing Scotland and England that will be a test but then we have Wales who we should put away comfortably. We are building for 2027 right, well these 4 lions players are all on the rise and could easily make that world cup squad. I love all the players I have suggested that they replace but they are all tested. Rassie knows what he has in them. Jesse has played so much rugby he deserves a break.
Agree 100%. There are Lions players that are playing good rugby week in and week out, but the pundits and media gives too much credit to average players. Asenathi Ntlabakanye, Nohamba, VD Merwe, Franke and Quan Horn, Ruan Venter are all very good players and deserve recognition.
You can't take only 2 flyhalf's for 3 games, they will definitely take another flyhalf. Most probably Jordan Hendrikse even if he doesn't get game time however that's unlikely
I'm no Bok coach, thankfully , but for me me, Hanekom has surpassed Pepsi, Jason-Dixon, Dayimani, Roos, van Staden and Wiese for players I want to see for the Bok back row moving forward. He looks such a natural a player. Kind of like Sasha has looked for the Boks. I really want to see David Kriel get into the running. I rate him over Esterhuizen.
@@jameswyatt4443 No, I'm not joking, as it turns out. I'm not saying he's a better player. I'm saying I'd like him to get a run in November ahead of Esterhuizen. I happen to think Esterhuizen has never stepped up at Bok level and I think Kriel has a higher ceiling than Esterhuizen and brings more to the table in terms of versatility.
@@greenplasticgun That’s a horrendous take. Esterhuizen hasn’t played a bad game for the Boks, barring an unfortunate red. He’s never had a chance to play in the main team, he only gets the easy games, and so has never been given a fair go, because DDA is never injured. He’s twice the player of David Kriel. Versatility is a pointless argument. There will never be a time when David Kriel’s versatility will be needed, he’s below Springbok level in every position. He’s never going to be good enough to play any of 12,13, wing or 15, for the Boks. Massive waste of a spot. There are other players who should be ahead of him anyway. Wings we have Kolbe, Arendse, Mapimpi, Moodie, Edwill, Jesse Kriel, Am Centres, DDA, Jesse Kriel, Am, Esterhuizen, Moodie, Willemse, Pollard, Sacha even some uncapped players like Hooker, Henco. Fullbacks, Willemse, Fassi, Willie, Horn, Sacha, Hendrikse, Kolbe, Arendse, Moodie, Gelant. David Kriel is behind all these players, and his versatility is clearly not needed, we have plenty of versatility amongst our players who are actually good enough in specialist positions as well.
My 39 man Squad Ox Nche Frans Malherbe Thomas du Toit Gerhard Stenekamp Vincent Koch Steven Kitshoff Malcom Marx Bongi Mbonambi Johan Grobelaar Eben Etzebeth Ruan Nortje RG Snyman Jean Kleyn Siya Kolisi Pieter-Steph du Toit Jasper Wiese Marco van Staden Ben Jason Dixon Kwagga smith Elrigh Louw Cameron Hanekom Phepsi Butelezi Grant Williams Jaden Hendrikse Morne van den Berg Handre Pollard Maine Libbok Jordan Hendrikse Damian de Allende Jesse Kriel Lukhanyo Am Andre Esterhuizen Cheslin Kolbe Kurt Lee Arendse Edwill van de Merwe Makazole Mapimpi Canan Moodie Aphelele Fassi Damian Willemse
Hopefully your fullbacks continue to shine and Tyrone Green never gets capped, so England can have him - real problem position for us and he’s lightening on the wing or full back
DW is much better than Fassi . stop using the word phenomal about every player that played the last game from the bulls and lions against Ulster , most of their top players here is with the irish squad and ulster was bad., same as Edinburgh
I agree, the only change I would make is rather bring in Jan Hendrick wessels fo grobelaar at hooker, he is more physical and explosive can also cover prop
I'ma let you finish. But Nohamba was URC player of the year last year. Which means he played better than EVERY SINGLE ONE of these selected players. But unfortunately there's no justice in SA, even under this new democracy
@@louisvanniekerk2612 I agree that Moerat sucks. But beg to differ on Bongi and Jaden. Masuku has been poor the last 2 games so I understand him. But I can't remember when the likes of Faf and Willie played well for the Springboks. Horn deserves a chance definitely. But to select all those scrumhalfs including Morne vd Berg before Nohamba is simply laughable to me. Nohamba is our best 9 and the fact that he can also play 10 is a plus, not a minus
Its time to retire Reinach. He has been ordinary. Rather choose a young scrumhalf qnd let gim develop. We are not going to the WC with a 36-37 year old scrum half.
Henco just returned from injury. Does not start for Lions yet. Boogie Man....great player. Give him a full season in URC. That's should be the case for all new players
Hookers...we should give Joseph Dweba another chance. Strong scrummager, explosive and seem to have sorted out his throwing. But which hooker does not have problems with the odd poor throw?
@@kennethpayle3670 I think we stick with our current hooker choices, when we just stuck with bongi and Malcolm their throws were perfect, when we started experimenting and players got injured then the throws weren’t so good anymore. Henco has been in the alignment camp and is looking promising already, wouldn’t mind seeing him against wales
Willie isn't even in our top5 fullbacks anymore. He was excellent when everyone hated him, but his game has gone down. People just started loving him when he went and played for the bulls. He isn't as good anymore. Get over it
Dweba is finally looking like he fixed his line out-throwing. Still too early for a Bok call-up, but a good season in the URC/Euro Cup will get him there, considering he is only 28 helps as well
I realised I picked 37 players. My maths was a bit off 🙃 Not sure were the 33 came from but none the less still a strong squad! 🔥
David Kriel, can play 10-15, must get him in the bok group.
@bmvz1938-s8g What white player would you swap him with? He would've been picked ages ago but I guess he competes directly with Jesse Kriel.
Cameron Hanekom definitely deserves a shot. Extremely talented & smart player
David Kriel is absolutely putting his hand up he is just phenomenal AND he can kick
I would leave Mapimpi at home and take Edwill VDM !
You can take both
Wa hava
Hopefully Sanele Nohamba as scrum half will happen someday, he can also kick. What do you think of him, does he deserve a chance?
Ofcourse!! Him & Manie will be incredible which means Fassi can play fullback. If Williams/Jayden team with Libbok, Jordan can play fullback.
No he will not make it
He can cover 9+10 for the springboks if we want to do a 7/1 split and would be perfect on a 6/2 split coming on with manie having nohamba kicking at the post,idk why his not getting a chance.
@@Mikeylarry945 Defense is weak will not make it at test rugby and why will he replace ,/Pollard or libbok
@@jj56x7.5mm please we don't need your Heyneke Meyer logic here!!
Great team, handful quality players.
🤔 Someone looked like you at a restaurant I visited in Mossel Bay yesterday.
That was me 😂
Copy that. 🎉😅@@JordanBuhrsRugby
My opinion it’s becoming a criminal offense at this point to continue sidelining Wilco louw
100%
But Trevor Nyakanye is so much better. ;)
@@myshepspud1 36 years old though
@@myshepspud1not anymore Wilco louws scrummaging is unmatched there isn’t a single prop he’s scrummed into the floor he’s even taken on ox nche and came out the winner
Elrigh always plays at 7 for Bulls Cameron at 8 together they take everyone down. Elrigh is a beast
I would include Wilco in the squad.
Well done... I like it!
I would take this young Lions nr 6
To do what carry water bottles??
If you don't even know his name, he obviously hasn't proved himself worthy of a spot!
J.C Pretorius 😂🙌
@@katanabreezy2597 cary water bottles for marco
Ruan Venter 😏
1.Ox,Steenkamp,Kitsie
2.Bongi,Marx,Grobbies
3.Frans,Asanathi,Louw
4-5 Eben,RG,Kobus Wiese,Kleyn,Ruan
6.Siya,Marko
7.PSTD,Ruan Venter,Vincent Tshituka
8.Hanekom,Wiese,Emmanuel Tshituka
9.Krappies,Grant,Jayden
10.Handre,Manie,Siya Masuku
11-14.Hooker,kolbe,arendse, Moodie
12-13 Andre,Damian,Jessie,Henco v W, AM
15.Jordan,Fassi,Damian
Extra
Kwagga
Elrich
BJD
Quite extreme leaving Koch, le Roux, mapimpi for who? Asenathi, Cobus Wiese and the Tshituka's?
Damian Willemse slander, sad to see that people think all of a sudden he isn’t the best player in the world
Jordan is a complete Phassi man hahaha! Willemse should be there for sure and I'd be suprised if he doesn't start
You must be joking to select Mchunu before Wilco Louw.
What about Kitsie? Will he still be out?
Howzit Jordan. Really enjoy your content.
Listening to this the sound quality is a little edgy. (sort of echo) I know setting a studio is a bit OTP, but maybe hang a few curtains to absorb the reverb?!?
Other than that....your squad is about right I reckon. But that's just me, what do I know.
Moerat can stay home
Bok coach Rassie Erasmus would have noted how the Boks topped most of the attack, defense and kicking stats in the Rugby Championship, but finished dead last in the department of goal kicking. Please tell Rassie that the Springboks need a 90% goal kicker like Pollard, without whom the Boks would NEVER have won the last 2 world cups!! 🏉
Wilco Louw has to be there. I'd leave Mchunu because Thomas can cover loosehead. Kleyn will be there.
Going to be the same squad that did duty st the championship
If Edwill doesn’t get chosen there will be hell to pay I wonder JJ VDM and Sadie haven’t played for the Boks yet
I haven't seen mention of SA 'A' fixtures but that would also be great to spread the net a bit further.
if it wasnt for experience, id pick Nohamba over Cobus and Hendrikse. The boy deserves a chance
Fantastic 33 men squad!
Rassie is not leaving his son-in-law 😂😂😂😂
Rassie be absolutely bazare and take a 46 man squad. Add Jan Hendrick Vessels as well
You much watch urc and see that kleyn has been played well for munster
No Damian Willemse are you nuts
He is in there.... as utility back
1 Lion... classic south african pundit opinion:
Francke Horn?? Sanele Nohamba??? Henco Van Wyk??? Quan Horn???
At the expense of?
@@RUGGARUGBY What about these:
Francke for an Elrich or Kwagga
Sanele for Cobus
Henco for Jesse
Quan for Willie
We are playing Scotland and England that will be a test but then we have Wales who we should put away comfortably. We are building for 2027 right, well these 4 lions players are all on the rise and could easily make that world cup squad. I love all the players I have suggested that they replace but they are all tested. Rassie knows what he has in them. Jesse has played so much rugby he deserves a break.
@@RUGGARUGBY agree none of those players will make it
Agree 100%. There are Lions players that are playing good rugby week in and week out, but the pundits and media gives too much credit to average players. Asenathi Ntlabakanye, Nohamba, VD Merwe, Franke and Quan Horn, Ruan Venter are all very good players and deserve recognition.
@@hughjackson5314 Ruan Venter.
3 locks plus we have the option of PSD as a forth.
Any chance you’ll be there for any of the games?
I love that no-one wants Moerat in the team!
You can't take only 2 flyhalf's for 3 games, they will definitely take another flyhalf. Most probably Jordan Hendrikse even if he doesn't get game time however that's unlikely
Go Bokke!❤
sorry when is the official squad announcement?
Moerse strong team this !!😊
I'm no Bok coach, thankfully , but for me me, Hanekom has surpassed Pepsi, Jason-Dixon, Dayimani, Roos, van Staden and Wiese for players I want to see for the Bok back row moving forward. He looks such a natural a player. Kind of like Sasha has looked for the Boks.
I really want to see David Kriel get into the running. I rate him over Esterhuizen.
David Kriel over Esterhuizen, you’re joking right?
@@jameswyatt4443 No, I'm not joking, as it turns out.
I'm not saying he's a better player. I'm saying I'd like him to get a run in November ahead of Esterhuizen. I happen to think Esterhuizen has never stepped up at Bok level and I think Kriel has a higher ceiling than Esterhuizen and brings more to the table in terms of versatility.
@@greenplasticgun That’s a horrendous take. Esterhuizen hasn’t played a bad game for the Boks, barring an unfortunate red. He’s never had a chance to play in the main team, he only gets the easy games, and so has never been given a fair go, because DDA is never injured. He’s twice the player of David Kriel.
Versatility is a pointless argument. There will never be a time when David Kriel’s versatility will be needed, he’s below Springbok level in every position. He’s never going to be good enough to play any of 12,13, wing or 15, for the Boks. Massive waste of a spot. There are other players who should be ahead of him anyway.
Wings we have Kolbe, Arendse, Mapimpi, Moodie, Edwill, Jesse Kriel, Am
Centres, DDA, Jesse Kriel, Am, Esterhuizen, Moodie, Willemse, Pollard, Sacha even some uncapped players like Hooker, Henco.
Fullbacks, Willemse, Fassi, Willie, Horn, Sacha, Hendrikse, Kolbe, Arendse, Moodie, Gelant.
David Kriel is behind all these players, and his versatility is clearly not needed, we have plenty of versatility amongst our players who are actually good enough in specialist positions as well.
@@jameswyatt4443 Cool
Van Staden cannot be ignored
David Kriel, can play 10-15.
And he can kick
Libbok & Willemse should stay with us at the Stormers ⛈️💙!! Boks can go with Pollard, Masuku, Hendrikse, Nohamba & Fassi.
There aren't provincional matches during the tour, they can play
@@HayManned really? No November URC or ICC games?
@@thegreytone nope, none
@@thegreytone break for international rugby
@@HayManned okay, but Manie can't be selected because by the time selection starts, he probably wouldn't have played a game yet for the Stormers.
Willimse,a 2 times world cup winner and still young?
The dependency on old players says alot about the so called depth
sanele nohamba deserves a cap, either as scrummie or fly half.
To small o not at all he is at best a club player
@@jj56x7.5mm doesn't he deserve an opportunity to prove himself?
What about Kleyn?
My 39 man Squad
Ox Nche
Frans Malherbe
Thomas du Toit
Gerhard Stenekamp
Vincent Koch
Steven Kitshoff
Malcom Marx
Bongi Mbonambi
Johan Grobelaar
Eben Etzebeth
Ruan Nortje
RG Snyman
Jean Kleyn
Siya Kolisi
Pieter-Steph du Toit
Jasper Wiese
Marco van Staden
Ben Jason Dixon
Kwagga smith
Elrigh Louw
Cameron Hanekom
Phepsi Butelezi
Grant Williams
Jaden Hendrikse
Morne van den Berg
Handre Pollard
Maine Libbok
Jordan Hendrikse
Damian de Allende
Jesse Kriel
Lukhanyo Am
Andre Esterhuizen
Cheslin Kolbe
Kurt Lee Arendse
Edwill van de Merwe
Makazole Mapimpi
Canan Moodie
Aphelele Fassi
Damian Willemse
nice
Mapimpi and Willie Le Roux out, Canan Moodie and Damian Willemse in
Hopefully your fullbacks continue to shine and Tyrone Green never gets capped, so England can have him - real problem position for us and he’s lightening on the wing or full back
No Damian Willemse are you nuts
Isn't Kurt -Lee going to Japan the end of the year.
I think December
No Wilco Louw is a disgrace
Have you seen the amount of tackles Frans Malherbe made in the WC Final....go check buddy #workrate is what the BOKS are all about❤
Is it not Steenekamp?
Wilco best scummer but workrate specially on defence not the greatest
Rassie must take more younger players to give them experience because many are to old already to go to a next WC. Props and Centers are too old!
Why? Mention Roos you should know he had a shoulder operation
Naaaah don’t rate him anymore Louw is a beast
Ja. Mchunu - I'd like to see him. Agree on locks. Actually have no problem with your squad. solid. Beyond solid.
Jean Klein has been cleared to play
Only player I would add is Jean Kleyn otherwise happy
Bro let’s work on that Mchunu pronunciation. It’s not that hard to get it right
DW is much better than Fassi . stop using the word phenomal about every player that played the last game from the bulls and lions against Ulster , most of their top players here is with the irish squad and ulster was bad., same as Edinburgh
In which aspects of the game is DW “much better” than Fassie at fullback?
With the depth that we have why do we not have a SA A tour as well
Neethling Fouche would be good to see
I agree, the only change I would make is rather bring in Jan Hendrick wessels fo grobelaar at hooker, he is more physical and explosive can also cover prop
BJ van ransburg must be given a bok call up no doubt.
David Kriel best centre in SA.
I'ma let you finish. But Nohamba was URC player of the year last year. Which means he played better than EVERY SINGLE ONE of these selected players. But unfortunately there's no justice in SA, even under this new democracy
I agree, Bongi Hendrickse Moerat is not even club standard. Where is Horn at fullback? Wilco Louw is the best tighthead in the world but not selected.
@@louisvanniekerk2612 I agree that Moerat sucks. But beg to differ on Bongi and Jaden. Masuku has been poor the last 2 games so I understand him. But I can't remember when the likes of Faf and Willie played well for the Springboks. Horn deserves a chance definitely. But to select all those scrumhalfs including Morne vd Berg before Nohamba is simply laughable to me. Nohamba is our best 9 and the fact that he can also play 10 is a plus, not a minus
Brilliant player
Its time to retire Reinach. He has been ordinary. Rather choose a young scrumhalf qnd let gim develop. We are not going to the WC with a 36-37 year old scrum half.
Nohamba and morne can fill that gap
Agreed. It is time to give guys like Sanele Nohamba a run
@@SA_PASFno never both useless one had his chance was piss poor
Agreed, but Grant and Jaden needs some game time and they will be set for the World Cup
Woould leave moimoi at home and take Hooker from sharks with
Mapimpi can stay home
Take Willie away and put Quan horn there
And take Jaden away and put morné van Den bergin his place
Would love to see henco van wijk feature or the boogieman.
Henco just returned from injury. Does not start for Lions yet. Boogie Man....great player. Give him a full season in URC. That's should be the case for all new players
Hookers...we should give Joseph Dweba another chance. Strong scrummager, explosive and seem to have sorted out his throwing. But which hooker does not have problems with the odd poor throw?
@@kennethpayle3670 I think we stick with our current hooker choices, when we just stuck with bongi and Malcolm their throws were perfect, when we started experimenting and players got injured then the throws weren’t so good anymore. Henco has been in the alignment camp and is looking promising already, wouldn’t mind seeing him against wales
It is time to retire Am he is past his best time to bring in a new centre
Where's quin horn brilliant player also henco v wyk and Evan roos and Hugo Venter
Roos is a penalty machine
Has to give Hooker and Julias a chance
In who's plays ??
Willie isn't even in our top5 fullbacks anymore. He was excellent when everyone hated him, but his game has gone down. People just started loving him when he went and played for the bulls. He isn't as good anymore. Get over it
Hooker is definitely going
Where is Pepsi to show his value. He deserves it
he's injured.
@@prod.lunarpicassoHe isn’t
Cokelisi? 🤔 😅
Please to small and when he played he disappeared. No physical presence.
@@louisvanniekerk2612 He needs to move to 6.
You must bring Evan roos and you must not take cameron
Dweba is finally looking like he fixed his line out-throwing. Still too early for a Bok call-up, but a good season in the URC/Euro Cup will get him there, considering he is only 28 helps as well
Dweba never looked fit enough.