Can we have him back !!! Its also good to see how many have accepted him in SA and your point on him embracing your culture & identity is I suspect a significant factor for his adopted homeland.
Played against John in 1st league in Jo'burg. He talked incessantly on the field, to influence the ref and to get his opponents out of the game. Hated the little Irish imp but he was one hell of a player.
I was on safari in Namibia in the Kaokoveld and going down Van Zyl's Pass - 17km in 4 hours - when we spent a couple of nights at The Delight Hotel in Swakopmund. The morning after our first night happened to be John Robbie's last day at Radio 702 and I spent a couple of hours in the hotel room, listening for the last time to this man of such substance and passion. I felt so much nostalgia at the passing of time, remembering this voice of my youth, while I was getting married, having children and growing into middle age. Lovely hearing your dulcet tones this morning John. You are a fine man.
Hi MW , Thanks so much for this chat with John, really enjoyed it, brought back so many memories ( I'm a little older than you guys and go back to the days of Mannetjies and Frik ). Used to enjoy listening to John on 702 back in the day too. All the names you mentioned and so many more memories came flooding back to me. Got to mention Danie Gerber too , I grew up in Uitenhage , what a great player he was. I'm actually one up on John , had the privilege of meeting Ray Mordt through my brother when he came to Mafekeng on a business trip while I was busy on a project there. Such a down to earth, friendly guy. What suprised me was that he is actually shorter than I am , but he had such a huge persona and skill on the field that I imagined he was this huge guy who could run over any opposition ! Strength, best wishes and kind regards to you both. Doen so voort ❤
John Robbie! Good on you Sir, an absolute legend. Incredible that you say ‘we’ as an Irish lad. Love that you speak as being South African. Was lovely to hear🤗
I’m with you John, Rassie totally embraced all of South Africa’s people, serious serious development to deliver the best Bok team ever. I now live in Canada but will always be South African and so so proud that our country is represented by people from all walks of life, and as you highlight, not 1 player of colour is a token inclusion, they are if not the best in the world, the best in South Africa. And its my shame that during the dark days of seventies and eighties, South Africa did not unite all its people, wasted energy on division that has no place on earth, Rassie has build bridges in South African society that have never been at this level, I am truly trilled to witness the success of my fellow rainbow nation.
Sadly, a bit of a woke comment mate. Rassie has quotas to contend with. 60% of the Boks have to be players of colour by 2030, despite the fact that less than 20% of SA's player pool are players of colour. That's why Jacques Nienaber often said "our players are not necessarily the best players, but the correct players." Hence more than 400 top-class white players now ply their trade in Europe and Japan, some even opting to play for other countries. How incredibly sad is that? I am ALL for inclusion, but on merit only. In this day and age absolutely NO quotas should be in place. Someone like Siya will one day be remembered for all the wonderful things he had done, but (sadly) ALSO, most likely, for having been the Boks' first quota captain.
@@wouterswanepoel5753 my advice and you need not follow is that you rid yourself of the issue if you want to live in SA. I have total TOTAL support for every player of colour in the colour currently in the bok team, I have not seen any player less than qualifying for the inclusion. Those white South Africans who have not made the bok team, work harder and I have no doubt Rassie will not overlook you in his huge team of over 50 players, admired around the world for the pool available to Rassie. Making the bok team the most formidable force in rugby currently. I’d like to see Jacque back doing defensive training but I stick firm with THIS IS THE GREATEST BOK TEAM EVER. And it is building bridges in South African society. Love to see this progress in my home country.
@@larrymeyer2917 Me again: I have ZERO support for tokens playing for the Springboks on the strength of their skin colour, and TOTAL sympathy for those world-class players who HAVE to be overlooked because of their skin colour. Only woke, immoral idiots will not agree with me.
Absolutely legendary John Robbie! The British Lions tour in 1981 was when I became a Bok fan, when the Springbok matches company put out a book on the tour and you collected the cards of each player, I really struggled to find Danie Gerber's card😂😂😂
Lovely to hear your rugby stories John Robbie. Really fantastic. You played with and against legends in our rugby memories. NZ 2nd scrum half was Lyn Davis who toured SA in ‘76. Ollie Campbell was a legend as well. Thanks John
Our local club Universals was established in 1889 and still going strong we are from Stanford a small town in between Hermanus and Gansbaai Western Cape
Outstanding interview! Fascinating to hear John's take on so many matters regarding rugby and he certainly got me thinking about quite a few things. I also appreciated MW's way of asking a question and then allowing his guest to speak his mind without constantly being interrupted. In the end John could respond in full and by doing so also related most interesting incidents from his past to explain his point. Thanks MW and John for a most interesting and informative chat.
I remember John very well, he was a presenter on 702 and obviously the Rugby playing part, he is 10 year older than me but in his hay day of rugby we were kind of not part of World Rugby. What I do remember was that my dad who was a South African Patriot did not spoke kindly of John, lol! being on that "Poisenous Radio Station", so fo rme he was #1 on "that" Radio Station and second the Rugby player. Who would have known it rurned out this way. So happy to heard from you and see you are still a Rugby Player through and through. The past 5 years or so has seen a revival in Rugby, Argentina is probably one example that stands out, but over here in Australia the whole thing has collapsed and it looks like the All Blacks is going the same way, in my eyes I think it is South Africas fault in preference of wanting to play in the Nothern Hemisphere, lets hope Australia get their Acadamies running again and in my opinion, the All Balcks "Loose a bit of weight" around the forwards and get the speed back into the Back line.
I must agree with John on Jaden Hendrickse. Perhaps not quite MOM vs. Argentina, but he was utterly superb and didn’t get enough credit for that performance. Mooi man
I remember seeing John Robbie in the stands at the Wanderers just after he arrived as a replacement placer in the Lions team. The Lions were playing Transvaal at the Wanderers as the new Ellis Park was being built.
There does seem to be an increase in volume when “Die Stem” begins, but I think that is only because it’s in a different key. You sing it from deep in your chest, so it’s easier to sing loudly. Just try it on your own in the shower! Nkosi Sikelel, on the other hand, you sing from much higher up, almost in the mouth.
Saffa Expat in Ireland- Leinster season ticket holder- John is right, Leinster fans boo everything be it a ref decision “against” them or a tackle by the other team - can get unpleasant to sit through. Almost feel sometimes that they actually don’t properly understand the game technically nor its values
I was in the standing stands at Newlands when Transvaal was playing Province..Didn't show my support for Transvaal ...Dangerous .But Transvaal beat WP that day and I recall John Robbie final scrum screaming to Whal Bartmann.. Watch the blindside Whal ..Rest is history ..
John Robbie - legend - everyone forgets he was a Frikkin great Irish scrum half in the days when it was not easy to get to the top off yr own bat - he was proper
I love it the world forced us to be so good, Because they called Bok rugby boring all these years and now?The green mean machine conquer and destroy with discipline young blood mix with old all shapes and sizes any colour called it what you want.The main thing is rugby at the peak and the whole country behind the Springboks for the love of sport
John Robbie, legend, great insight. Loved Syd Going myself, he just always stuck iin my head too. He seemed to have the speed and skill of today's no 9's. Ireland are defo 1 and 2 team with SA right now and should have played us in the final, their mistake was thinking that they were World champs because they were that good and they really were good enough to win it, they just got ahead of themselves and forgot how much winning experiience new zealand has, they honestly thought no-one but them had the right to win it. They did beat us in the 2nd test fair and square, and Argentina although they are playing great rugby, they couldn't really match our 1st team in that 2nd match. Knowng Rassie, his miid term plan, would be to beat Ireland in every match up between SA before the next world cup in '27, question is, will Ireland be able to keep up with SA's progress as their depth gains experience with every game? Rassie is not trying to build the bokke into the 2nd best team in the world and the depth we have right now, could be the difference. Can't wait for the next game.
Very interesting feedback, thank you. Hopefully we'll be seeing more of John on our channel! I don't know why Syd Going stuck in my head, it's almost 50 years later!
@@MarceloGiannone Ireland could have beaten NZ had they kicked their penalties instead of kicking to the corner. Looking forward to the next World Cup, Ireland will need to replace quote a few players and have made less progress in ringing changes than SA and NZ. SA have great strength in depth in all positions and are the top team at the moment.
Wonderlike onderhoud MW - dink dis jou beste nog! Jare na John Robbies geluister in die motor tussen Pretoria en JHB. Wens die onderhoud was 2 ure lank
@@megafoonsport John het op radio vertel hoe hy destyds vir Louis Luyt ontmoet het by 'n TVL oefening net na hy dear begin het - Louis kom af veld toe met sy suit aan om hom te ontmoet - John pass toe 'n modder rugbybal na Louis wat hy vang teen sy maag en 'n suit vol modder! hahaha
Thanks so much..Would like your conversations half shorter (with respect)..but again didnt want to lose any part.John R I know from 702. Wonderful values morals most ethical intellectual..Saw him playing for Transvaal..BBulls ( Northern Transvaal) will never love Tvl...esp if Uli etc moved over..😮 but only respect..Remember Tobias du Toit..? James Small..Japie Mulder..Think JR gave good account of himself..Lovely rugby brain and in general..Màn of integrity..
In die vroë 2000s het SARU die Yesterday's Heroes campaign gedoen - baadjies aan alle spelers gegee wat SA onder die verskillende unies verteenwoordig het. Tot vandag toe glo ek Robbie, Wessel Lightfoot, Wilfred Cupido en Calla Scholtz moet ook baadjies kry. Enigste 'Bokke' van 1985 Interne Boktoer wat nooit kleure in ander Bok wedstryde gekry het nie. Dolly Ntaka was ook een, maar as ek reg onthou het hy 'n baadjie ontvang want hy het ook SARFU, SARFF, SARB of een van die ander organisasies in 'n game versteenwoordig.
📍But what rivalry is there between S.A and Ireland though? 😅 Seriously, at this point its ONLY the 1 and 2 ranking people mention all the time. But Ireland do not have close to the accolades S.A has. I mean, where is Ireland's World Cup trophy? Show me at least one. At least show me a semi-final finish for Ireland or a bronze medal. Where is their better win percentage against S.A? The Boks have twice the number of wins against Ireland (19 S.A vs 10 Ire). The All Blacks will always be S.A's real rival, for decades to come! Sorry.
It is more some of the disrespectful Irish pundits. Some of the remarks that came from OTB r petty and seriously not in good sportsmanship. One of the guys would not congratulate SA winning 2019 as according to him SA is known for ‘drug use’ after 1 player tested positive before the World Cup. And at the same time they had an alleged rape case in the courts by some Irish rugby players. Anyway. In the northern hemisphere Ireland is my 2nd favourite team after wales.
You dont hear about the rivalry so much in Ireland. As your comment highlights, finally we are competing with the best, SA & NZ, but not getting the results when it counts which the real definition of the best rather than the ranking system. Im not a fan of disrespectful media who too often like making controversial comments to get attention but it makes them money and gets the clicks.
How lucky are we to have someone like John Robbie.. a man of substance choose to live in our country and take to our culture the way he has.
Can we have him back !!! Its also good to see how many have accepted him in SA and your point on him embracing your culture & identity is I suspect a significant factor for his adopted homeland.
John Robbie, the voice of my youth. what a legend!
Played against John in 1st league in Jo'burg. He talked incessantly on the field, to influence the ref and to get his opponents out of the game. Hated the little Irish imp but he was one hell of a player.
I was on safari in Namibia in the Kaokoveld and going down Van Zyl's Pass - 17km in 4 hours - when we spent a couple of nights at The Delight Hotel in Swakopmund. The morning after our first night happened to be John Robbie's last day at Radio 702 and I spent a couple of hours in the hotel room, listening for the last time to this man of such substance and passion. I felt so much nostalgia at the passing of time, remembering this voice of my youth, while I was getting married, having children and growing into middle age. Lovely hearing your dulcet tones this morning John. You are a fine man.
@@grantevans6597 Come back to Namibia again
@@neoserve8656 thank you so much - I most certainly will. What a wonderful country
So glad to see John on here MW, a man who absolutely loves this country and I have learnt so much listening to on radio. A real legend.
It is always a pleasure listening to any pods from JR , a true legend and well informed with passion towards our Springbok team 👌🏼🏉
i love John Robbie, so articulate.....i dont know why he does not have his own podcast...
Too busy playing golf.
Good idea 💡 John.....
Always enjoyed listening to John on 702 and watching him playing for Transvaal. Great pod cast.
702 today is a shit station
Hi MW , Thanks so much for this chat with John, really enjoyed it, brought back so many memories ( I'm a little older than you guys and go back to the days of Mannetjies and Frik ). Used to enjoy listening to John on 702 back in the day too.
All the names you mentioned and so many more memories came flooding back to me. Got to mention Danie Gerber too , I grew up in Uitenhage , what a great player he was.
I'm actually one up on John , had the privilege of meeting Ray Mordt through my brother when he came to Mafekeng on a business trip while I was busy on a project there. Such a down to earth, friendly guy. What suprised me was that he is actually shorter than I am , but he had such a huge persona and skill on the field that I imagined he was this huge guy who could run over any opposition !
Strength, best wishes and kind regards to you both. Doen so voort ❤
John Robbie .. Legend!!
Your best interview MW Welman. Great chat 💯
Really enjoyed this, thanks for bringing on John Robbie!
John Robbie is baie spesiaal. Een van die min mense wat altyd sy stellings met bewyse sal probeer regverdig. Super intelligent.
@@hansielategan969 dit Kan U weer sé
Great communicator as well.
John Robbie! Good on you Sir, an absolute legend. Incredible that you say ‘we’ as an Irish lad. Love that you speak as being South African. Was lovely to hear🤗
Great discussion covering a vast number of fascinating topics for us rugby lovers; hope it’s the first of many!
John...you legend!!!
Fantastic stories by John😊
It is so good to listen to John again. I really loved his work on 702.
I’m with you John, Rassie totally embraced all of South Africa’s people, serious serious development to deliver the best Bok team ever. I now live in Canada but will always be South African and so so proud that our country is represented by people from all walks of life, and as you highlight, not 1 player of colour is a token inclusion, they are if not the best in the world, the best in South Africa. And its my shame that during the dark days of seventies and eighties, South Africa did not unite all its people, wasted energy on division that has no place on earth, Rassie has build bridges in South African society that have never been at this level, I am truly trilled to witness the success of my fellow rainbow nation.
Well.... our players of colour are the BEST in the world keep it up Russie ❤
Russie for President
Sadly, a bit of a woke comment mate. Rassie has quotas to contend with. 60% of the Boks have to be players of colour by 2030, despite the fact that less than 20% of SA's player pool are players of colour. That's why Jacques Nienaber often said "our players are not necessarily the best players, but the correct players." Hence more than 400 top-class white players now ply their trade in Europe and Japan, some even opting to play for other countries. How incredibly sad is that? I am ALL for inclusion, but on merit only. In this day and age absolutely NO quotas should be in place. Someone like Siya will one day be remembered for all the wonderful things he had done, but (sadly) ALSO, most likely, for having been the Boks' first quota captain.
@@wouterswanepoel5753 my advice and you need not follow is that you rid yourself of the issue if you want to live in SA. I have total TOTAL support for every player of colour in the colour currently in the bok team, I have not seen any player less than qualifying for the inclusion. Those white South Africans who have not made the bok team, work harder and I have no doubt Rassie will not overlook you in his huge team of over 50 players, admired around the world for the pool available to Rassie. Making the bok team the most formidable force in rugby currently. I’d like to see Jacque back doing defensive training but I stick firm with THIS IS THE GREATEST BOK TEAM EVER. And it is building bridges in South African society. Love to see this progress in my home country.
@@larrymeyer2917 Me again: I have ZERO support for tokens playing for the Springboks on the strength of their skin colour, and TOTAL sympathy for those world-class players who HAVE to be overlooked because of their skin colour. Only woke, immoral idiots will not agree with me.
Stopped listening to 702 when John retired.
He's so humble 😂😂
Me to!
Wow great guest to have on, love hearing stories from memory lane and their perspectives today. Way before my time.
What a storyteller John is. Lovely interview!
Absolutely legendary John Robbie! The British Lions tour in 1981 was when I became a Bok fan, when the Springbok matches company put out a book on the tour and you collected the cards of each player, I really struggled to find Danie Gerber's card😂😂😂
Lovely to hear your rugby stories John Robbie. Really fantastic. You played with and against legends in our rugby memories. NZ 2nd scrum half was Lyn Davis who toured SA in ‘76. Ollie Campbell was a legend as well. Thanks John
Our local club Universals was established in 1889 and still going strong we are from Stanford a small town in between Hermanus and Gansbaai Western Cape
I've always loved John Robbie, both as player and radio presenter. Would like to know about the time Flip van der Merwe sat om him🙃
I like how Robbie thinks about the cedings of world rugby. It doesn’t matter. What matters is the trophies in your cabinet.
True to a point, but come the WC seedings are important when it comes to the draw.
Outstanding interview! Fascinating to hear John's take on so many matters regarding rugby and he certainly got me thinking about quite a few things. I also appreciated MW's way of asking a question and then allowing his guest to speak his mind without constantly being interrupted. In the end John could respond in full and by doing so also related most interesting incidents from his past to explain his point. Thanks MW and John for a most interesting and informative chat.
Amazing interview MW. Always loved John Robbie in rugby and on 702 back in the day and was so great to finally learn his rugby history
I remember John very well, he was a presenter on 702 and obviously the Rugby playing part, he is 10 year older than me but in his hay day of rugby we were kind of not part of World Rugby. What I do remember was that my dad who was a South African Patriot did not spoke kindly of John, lol! being on that "Poisenous Radio Station", so fo rme he was #1 on "that" Radio Station and second the Rugby player. Who would have known it rurned out this way. So happy to heard from you and see you are still a Rugby Player through and through. The past 5 years or so has seen a revival in Rugby, Argentina is probably one example that stands out, but over here in Australia the whole thing has collapsed and it looks like the All Blacks is going the same way, in my eyes I think it is South Africas fault in preference of wanting to play in the Nothern Hemisphere, lets hope Australia get their Acadamies running again and in my opinion, the All Balcks "Loose a bit of weight" around the forwards and get the speed back into the Back line.
For me one of the best Pods to-date, well done and many thanks!!
I also had Jaden as the MOM .. I thought he was magnificent .. he kept us ticking along so nicely
Great content again MW. Love how you let the guests express themselves.
Good to see you. 🎉
I must agree with John on Jaden Hendrickse. Perhaps not quite MOM vs. Argentina, but he was utterly superb and didn’t get enough credit for that performance. Mooi man
John Robbie. Legend
I agree. TV cameras should not be allowed in the change room.
LOVE LOVE LOVED this episode.
My favourite radio man!! From zero to 3% of rugby knowledge after listening to John.
I remember seeing John Robbie in the stands at the Wanderers just after he arrived as a replacement placer in the Lions team. The Lions were playing Transvaal at the Wanderers as the new Ellis Park was being built.
I remember the old Ellise park, it was a dust bowl
Hi MW, saw you at ORT the other night , was nice meeting you. Great show!
Yes, you caught me by surprise! Would have loved to have a chat. Thanks for watching!
another great blog interesting
I remember a great John Robbie drop goal at Loftus. For Transvaal
Great interview!
There does seem to be an increase in volume when “Die Stem” begins, but I think that is only because it’s in a different key. You sing it from deep in your chest, so it’s easier to sing loudly. Just try it on your own in the shower! Nkosi Sikelel, on the other hand, you sing from much higher up, almost in the mouth.
I was at that game at ellis park when Naas destroyed Transvaal. He was brilliant that day
Most enjoyable
Love your work MW. Dankie. Albert
I was at that game. TVL 18 NTVL 24.
Such a great orator. You should have John on more often.
Legend!!
Saffa Expat in Ireland- Leinster season ticket holder- John is right, Leinster fans boo everything be it a ref decision “against” them or a tackle by the other team - can get unpleasant to sit through. Almost feel sometimes that they actually don’t properly understand the game technically nor its values
I was in the standing stands at Newlands when Transvaal was playing Province..Didn't show my support for Transvaal ...Dangerous .But Transvaal beat WP that day and I recall John Robbie final scrum screaming to Whal Bartmann.. Watch the blindside Whal ..Rest is history ..
John Robbie - legend - everyone forgets he was a Frikkin great Irish scrum half in the days when it was not easy to get to the top off yr own bat - he was proper
Stuart Barnes was that English commentator.
I love it the world forced us to be so good, Because they called Bok rugby boring all these years and now?The green mean machine conquer and destroy with discipline young blood mix with old all shapes and sizes any colour called it what you want.The main thing is rugby at the peak and the whole country behind the Springboks for the love of sport
John Robbie, legend, great insight. Loved Syd Going myself, he just always stuck iin my head too. He seemed to have the speed and skill of today's no 9's. Ireland are defo 1 and 2 team with SA right now and should have played us in the final, their mistake was thinking that they were World champs because they were that good and they really were good enough to win it, they just got ahead of themselves and forgot how much winning experiience new zealand has, they honestly thought no-one but them had the right to win it.
They did beat us in the 2nd test fair and square, and Argentina although they are playing great rugby, they couldn't really match our 1st team in that 2nd match.
Knowng Rassie, his miid term plan, would be to beat Ireland in every match up between SA before the next world cup in '27, question is, will Ireland be able to keep up with SA's progress as their depth gains experience with every game? Rassie is not trying to build the bokke into the 2nd best team in the world and the depth we have right now, could be the difference. Can't wait for the next game.
Very interesting feedback, thank you. Hopefully we'll be seeing more of John on our channel! I don't know why Syd Going stuck in my head, it's almost 50 years later!
@@MarceloGiannone Ireland could have beaten NZ had they kicked their penalties instead of kicking to the corner. Looking forward to the next World Cup, Ireland will need to replace quote a few players and have made less progress in ringing changes than SA and NZ. SA have great strength in depth in all positions and are the top team at the moment.
Cocky Scrum half! 😂😂 Oh yeah!
@@lioneloconnor4785 All scrummies all over the world, no matter the level, the scrummies are the chirpink
Wonderlike onderhoud MW - dink dis jou beste nog! Jare na John Robbies geluister in die motor tussen Pretoria en JHB. Wens die onderhoud was 2 ure lank
😁Dankie Johan. Ek het nie veel gedoen nie, John is 'n meester met die goed. Wat 'n belewenis
@@megafoonsport John het op radio vertel hoe hy destyds vir Louis Luyt ontmoet het by 'n TVL oefening net na hy dear begin het - Louis kom af veld toe met sy suit aan om hom te ontmoet - John pass toe 'n modder rugbybal na Louis wat hy vang teen sy maag en 'n suit vol modder! hahaha
In my opinion Andy Farrell like Rassie is a brilliant coach and people manager at the helm of a great side.
Yes MW the opposition don't understand the Springboks bench
Thanks so much..Would like your conversations
half shorter (with respect)..but again didnt want to lose any part.John R I know from 702. Wonderful values morals most ethical intellectual..Saw him playing for Transvaal..BBulls ( Northern Transvaal) will never love Tvl...esp if Uli etc moved over..😮 but only respect..Remember Tobias du Toit..? James Small..Japie Mulder..Think JR gave good account of himself..Lovely rugby brain and in general..Màn of integrity..
😁 Sometimes they're short, sometime they're long. Depends where the conversation takes us!
@@megafoonsportwell said
Who does John reckon to be the best flyhalf? Where did Naas rank?
How good does he think the Springboks of the 80s would have been?
John is old-fashioned 😅
In die vroë 2000s het SARU die Yesterday's Heroes campaign gedoen - baadjies aan alle spelers gegee wat SA onder die verskillende unies verteenwoordig het. Tot vandag toe glo ek Robbie, Wessel Lightfoot, Wilfred Cupido en Calla Scholtz moet ook baadjies kry. Enigste 'Bokke' van 1985 Interne Boktoer wat nooit kleure in ander Bok wedstryde gekry het nie. Dolly Ntaka was ook een, maar as ek reg onthou het hy 'n baadjie ontvang want hy het ook SARFU, SARFF, SARB of een van die ander organisasies in 'n game versteenwoordig.
EK IS N BOKKE 😊 LEKKER
THE HATRED WRU HAS FOR THE SPRINGBOKS HAS COME BACK TO BIT THEM 😂
Modern game. Panic and Petrol 🚨
📍But what rivalry is there between S.A and Ireland though? 😅 Seriously, at this point its ONLY the 1 and 2 ranking people mention all the time. But Ireland do not have close to the accolades S.A has. I mean, where is Ireland's World Cup trophy? Show me at least one. At least show me a semi-final finish for Ireland or a bronze medal. Where is their better win percentage against S.A? The Boks have twice the number of wins against Ireland (19 S.A vs 10 Ire). The All Blacks will always be S.A's real rival, for decades to come! Sorry.
It is more some of the disrespectful Irish pundits. Some of the remarks that came from OTB r petty and seriously not in good sportsmanship. One of the guys would not congratulate SA winning 2019 as according to him SA is known for ‘drug use’ after 1 player tested positive before the World Cup. And at the same time they had an alleged rape case in the courts by some Irish rugby players.
Anyway. In the northern hemisphere Ireland is my 2nd favourite team after wales.
You dont hear about the rivalry so much in Ireland. As your comment highlights, finally we are competing with the best, SA & NZ, but not getting the results when it counts which the real definition of the best rather than the ranking system. Im not a fan of disrespectful media who too often like making controversial comments to get attention but it makes them money and gets the clicks.
But I.think the all blacks are better attacking side than the boks and score more beautiful tries it's in our DNA
Help from there "Friends". The one sided refs.!!
Daan Botha. AntieGris die en daai. Preek vir andere maar ook toe maar sy vrou gelos.