I really like Taugrim's style of explaining gameplay - he really had me with pointing out two crucial points - firstly choosing damage over position is a classic mistake and secondly you have to respect vision and that you shouldn't be in a place where light tanks spot - because it is not that you can see but be seen. My respect for pointing that out so cleary
Really enjoyed this one Taugrim, I got a request for a video idea. I, and a lot of other people I know, have trouble with the jump between T9 and T10, the jump in skill in the battles and how to deal with that. Especially noticeable in full T10 games. So I wondered if you have any tips and could maybe make a vid about it, I think it could help a lot of people! Thanks!
I struggle a t10 too, I can keep my average win rate in all tiers apart from 10, so many tanks that can wreck you in seconds for a bad poke ( so many TD's at T10 zzz ).
I noticed that all people with different skill levels struggle with it, I average about 2.4k wn8 on t10, while everything below that can easily reach 3+K. So it's not only bad players that have the problem. It's cool to see the likes, which indicates that even more people feel the same way, let's hope Taugrim notices
A good guide, thank you! You did not mention something that Lemming told about a week ago and you nicely demonstrated - 140 is team tank and it works better when paired with another.
Glad to hear they're still worth watching. This week I heard about a game called Spellbreak, a class-based BR game. It looks interesting. I'm still waiting for Oath to progress to Beta.
@@taugrim Spellbreak looks interesting. Watching you develop top strats for the game could be fun. I tried Refight:The Last Warship. It's a WoWS-like BR game. While having some interesting gameplay mechanics, the game is underdeveloped and unpolished.
@@taugrim I'm a huge nerd for gaming the systems in Crusader Kings 2, and I've sunk a lot of time into that game. Crusader Kings 3 releases in September, so I'm curious to see what they do with the franchise. Otherwise I'm keeping my eye out for something new because the gaming landscape is a bit meh right now. Maybe Cyberpunk?
I've never played a second of WoT but I've probably watched the majority of your tank videos. Been watching your channel since you were iron fisting people in swtor. Keep up the good content!
I just started playing wot again after not playing for over half a year - and now you upload this while I’m grinding the line (currently at the T-44). Perfect timing :-)
430U does get used in Clan Wars, but typically only 1 on Ensk, and sometimes Himmels. 140 is definitely preferred if you don't have a 907. It's one of the first tech tree tanks that any newer player who wants to get into competitive play should get.
@@zenekk1010 No they don't. The 430U has not been used en masse as brawlers since the first month of after it's release. On any closed map where you will mostly be brawling teams will bring 279es and other heavies and not run many meds at all. In any open or semi open map you want 907s or 140s because they have the flexibility to snipe, brawl and rotate. The 430U is too slow to rotate and it can't snipe, or hit EBRs.
@@yaboiyosef7640 277 and 140 are tied. Nobody uses 5As, only when all your other tanks are locked, and EBRs should only be driven by experienced players. Re-read my comment and notice that I said NEW players. If you don't have competitive experience but you want to start playing then a 277 and 140 are the first tanks you should get if you don't have them already, followed by the SConq.
I just want to say thank you for making these types of videos. when I started watching you and lemmingrush just over a month ago, my overall wn8 went from 1000 to 1250 in a month with 2200 recent! I am very grateful.
Thanks for posting this so quickly. Great content as usual. The sub 300 damage rolls makes it feel like a T8. Especially, when you get 2 or 3 in row. Cheers
@@taugrim True. But I've been in a few close fights that I could have won if it wasn't for the sequential low rolls. Its frustrating when I hit for 280 and the enemy is slamming you for 400+. I've been playing it more like a leo pta and getting better results. Thanks.
Yea there's a fine line about how close do you engage in a 140. It has some armor, but it also has good camo. I advise patience in the 140, like how I and IndignantBeaver waited to push the 1 line until it looked safe to push.
Thanks for the great vid again! Fun fact, got the Object 140 more than a year ago, and could not do good in it. I recently acquired the tier 9 Obj. 430, and I got a 60% average winrate with over 60 games played if I remember well. In a recent streak of games trying to get the top engine and tracks, I accidently clicked the Obj 140, and found it played a lot like the 430, but with a better gun and mobility. I'll rotate this tank again in my play sessions from now on :)
Looking to get back into WoT after a few years away. I have a 140 waiting for me....glad to see it's still more than relevant even with the bunch of new tanks that have appeared.
Thanks for the video, Taugrim. You make it look so easy, especially without using premium ammo. And, it's good to see a player such as yourself who is a gentleman in a game that has plenty of toxicity. I agree with you, the 140 is much more enjoyable to play. I really prefer a good handling gun that has less alpha than vice versa. Enjoy your videos! Also, look forward to seeing your videos on the STB-1 line!
Fantastic review and thank you! Even though I am way better of a player now I do way better in the old T-62A/140 than compared to the Obj 907/430U. I really don't understand it but the stats clearly favor the earlier meds. All logic should tell me I should perform better in the new OP tanks.
You might be forcing things in the 907/430U. I found that I was being over aggressive in the 430U in my first 60 battles, hence the awful 43% WR. Once I was a bit more careful I ran 60% WR over the next 140 battles or so.
@@taugrim Thank you for taking the time to respond. I will take your advice and play more conservatively. You might be right on money as at times I'm aggressive with my lights/mediums.
It amazes me that you can poke the same spot at G3 over and over without getting destroyed. If I did that I would receive so much inbound fire that the last 4 or 5 shots would make the hitting-dead-tank sound.
Thanks for this vid. I'm glad I kept my 140 and it's crew. If the nerf to the 430u is too much for my taste, I'll move its bounty/bond equipment to my 140 and play that one a lot more instead. However, I do have a weak spot for the K91 and do want to learn how to drive it properly. And not just use it as a Mobile tank destroyer.
Personally I think the 140 is okay, the plinky nature of the gun is cool, but the armor is just not there as much as it used to be for randoms since the gold spam meta kicked up. I think the progetto and the M48 are better jack of all trades mediums because of the higher alpha and much more reliable armor on both, with the M48 you have nice wide tracks and a curved upper plate with 9 degrees of depression that can easily brawl on uneven ground. The progetto has an auto bounce hull like the STB but it has the autoreloader to eat through hordes of tanks. I think my current medium tier list is Prog, TVP, STB 1, UDES, M48, then 140, not including rewards tanks because they don’t exist according to the creative lead at WoT.
@@taugrim While I agree, most pub matches, which is what this list is influenced by, are not played by people who know how vision mechanics work. Combine that with the M48s view range and at least the M48 can work a bush. In addition to this, I don't think the role of medium tanks is to spot using vision, depending on the medium it is either straight damage dealing(aka Leo 1) or brawling(aka 430U). I would rather have an EBR doing anything with vision than any medium tank at the current moment. Hopefully this meta changes to a point where vision truly matters for medium tanks again.
hey Taugrim, great video! I am wondering if you could take a look at the IS-M. I’ve never played a back turreted tank, and I want to start with this line, wanting to reach at least the 705. Also, the ISU-152 it’s a good option again! Thx
Taugrim, just a suggestion about an old tank: the A20 is now tier 5. I've had one YEARS and have a 3 skill crew in it. The speed is great and the view range is acceptable (I mount optics/binocs and vents). I was pessemistic when the light changes came out (the gun is poor at tier 5) but I've found that it is a brilliant active and passive scout now (with a good crew and modules accepted). It has the speed to get to good spots and the view range to hurt both active and passive. Love to hear your views on another tank that has been around a while.
Nice to see a new video from you ! I am at T-54 actually. I had a horrible 14 games losing streak (1 win then 14 losses) when I firstly bought it and played it stock. That made me hate the tank and abandoned the whole line, and moved to the newly reworked 430 line by that time. Recently I freexp'd the top gun of T-54 (again with your advice, since you said in a video that you would play M46 patton once you freexp the top gun). I suppose the gameplay is very close between the 2 tanks (T-54 / Obj 140). Are most advices for 140 still valid for T-54 ?
The Obj140 was is my first tierX medium tank however now that I got myself a Obj907 it’s been collecting dust your video gave me the incentive to give it a spin still love it and it’s a whole lot easier to manage than my new Obj430U still both lose to the Obj907 honestly it’s a little too broken but it’s a reward tank so it better give me a great tank or at least and equal tank to my top tanks after my fiasco with the T22SR that one took me three try’s and I still end up losing it to a honest misunderstanding. I got the Obj140, T62a, T22SR, Obj907, K91, and now the Obj430U I’m trying to get the Obj430B right now it seems to a much improved Obj140 with the gun of the Obj430 but the hull of the Obj140 what is it mind me asking?
140 used to have a weak turret but it was recently buffed. Before the buff it could have been overmatched by most guns so it was a weak point, but it's not any longer.
Hey Taugrim, could you do a video talking about what you think the meta is nowadays and why games seem quicker? Maybe it's because it seems like games are quicker with 15-3 steamrolls because they are more memorable or if the average game time is actually decreasing. My view is that the introduction of faster tanks (eg obj277, EBRs, etc) as well as very powerful hill/bushes and spotting positions have resulted in faster games and lopsided games. Thoughts?
I think the speed of tanks does influence how fast battles are resolved. I used to see the same thing in Armored Warfare where so many tanks were very fast.
I'm not sure if I could agree with you with Fisherman's Bay comment. While the rest of changes to it is good, the middle part of old Fisherman's bay was very fun to use, more powerful, and has a lot of quirks that you can abuse to get even more control of the map (like the option to destroy certain houses to open more shots to the city) Meanwhile, the current mid is just...boring. There is only one useful layer of houses and bushes for each side, so there's no depth you can use (other than the long bushline in near the city I guess). The 'fake bush' (borrowing Circon terminology) killed the most important bush of that area, and if you lost the mid once there's almost no way to reclaim it unless the enemy made a collosal mistake. Maybe it was just me being nostalgic, but one thing I'm sure of is that I had the best win rate of all map in the old version of that map so at least personally I just prefer the old version of it, results wise.
I think the biggest factor between the 430U and the 140 is the alpha of the 430U which is more forgiving ad I believe getting the DPM to work over raw alpha takes more effort and skill. On the reward tank front I find the thought process of giving the best players OP tanks:) I understand you have to make the rewards worth while but seems a poor idea.
See the 1st 10 seconds of a video to see the crew skills. But obviously on most meds, aside from essentials (Sixth Sense, Safe Stowage) you want Concealment and Repairs.
Thanks mate! Please may you tell me what to do: I have played 10 games in my Obj 430U and I have an average of 2.6k per battle... I hadn't even won one game... like how do I win games... I don't think it's me because I never camp and play to win and don't play just to get marks etc... It's just really frustrating when im the last one alive having to fall back after all my team just die so erly... there was one game where it was down to the last 7 tanks in either team... All the other games were 15-1 or about 15-6 losses... like how can i win i just hate this game now
Simplest advice I can give is platoon with other competent players. When you have 2-3 people working together on a team it helps. Aside from that, we all go through losing streaks.
Man ,I used to it (loosing streaks).whenever I get new tank and is stock I get trash teams..it's like WG wants me to spend my gold for module upgrades.
if you have enough credits to burn I suggest 140 only for farming bonds, no other tanks other than artillery is worth playing in tier 10, This tank is made to spot enemy I Suggest improved rotation binocular telescope and the bond vent, Up your crew with BIA and cammo you are virtually a light tank with crazy good gun handling you can turn tides of enemy into burnt hull you also need a good team that can shoot spotted targets, with these equipment's you get extremely crazy view range, specially once you unlock the field modification for secondary slot(scouting)
i watched quite a few your videos about medium or light tanks.. However not once i seen you revising anything in the tight or small maps like Himmelsdorf, tundra, pilsen etc. Its one thing to play those tanks in wide open maps with lots of room, completely another in tight, crowded, narrow maps.
The following episodes feature light and mediums on the 3 maps you referred to: Himmelsdorf 1 70 105 107 Tundra 33 39 62 84 Pilsen 79 I only have that one episode featuring Pilsen because I hate that map and have it blocked.
The only problem I have with the 140 is the low alpha. The gun feels anemic and unless you can keep your gun singing consistently a tank like the Leo or the 430u can easily out damage it.
430 is better for the lower skilled players because of the alfa. It takes a lot of skill to constantly find situations to shoot the enemy and tanks with rapid fire guns need it. If you take shot every 15s you basically cut your dpm by 65% in 140 and only by about 30% in 430. Also higher mobility makes a tank harder to control and encourages players to take more aggressive positions which more often results in their deaths. For example I've recently had a game in my t30 in which I did 7.5k dmg and at the same time I am happy when I do 2.5k dmg in Heat 54. Those highly mobile, fast firing tanks simply require more skill to take advantage of their stronger points.
I could, but others have covered that topic. The 140 is the superior tank. It has 1 more degree of gun depression, a far better armor layout, and 5 kph more top speed. The 62a has a stronger turret but the 140's turret is more than good enough.
@@taugrim Thanks for the fast reply I am at best an average lets say 1 mark player would the T-62a be more forgiving to play due to the extra armour ? I dont do clan wars just randoms.
For me the crippling thing about the Type 61 was the horrid camo (~20 with Concealment and BIA skills). That's so bad that I was getting spotted in bushes by other lights and mediums. The vast majority of meds that are soft have either good speed and/or good camouflage. The Type 61 has neither.
I believe it's the t-62a that is very similar to the 140 and with that being said, which do you prefer? Is there an advantage the 140 has over it's counterparts?
140 for sure. 1 extra degree of gun depression. Better frontal hull armor. Much better side hull armor due to the slope. 5 kph more top speed The only thing that 62a has over the 140 is a strong turret.
Taugrim So the t-62a is really a better hull down tank. Seems very situational. Thanks for the insight! I currently have the 430u and haven't decided between the t-62a and the 140. I think I'll go for the 140 ;D
I totally agree. They're nerfing the wrong thing on the 430U. My guess is they don't want to nerf armor because it forces more gold spam, which creates a stronger credit sink, which puts pressure on players to spend real money to boost their in-game credit earning ability.
@@taugrim I think the opinions of the Russian player base is also a factor. They are going in the right direction with the 430U cupola nerfs, however 280mm effective still requires gold. If they simply thinned it a bit further down to around 220mm it would be a breathe of fresh air. Still, Italian tank nerfs are all I can think about now 🙄
Raging raptor mentioned that the prog 65 is seen on the russian servers the same way we see the 430u. I feel like the generally more aggressive playstyle of russians gets shut down by the prog 65 unless you catch it reloading.
You should never drop a rammer. Every tank that can use a rammer and a V-stab should use both, the question is what you do with the 3rd slot, optics or vents.
@@von3254 hmm thanks. Im using the imp vents instead of the rammer to boost everthing by 7.5% i only loose 0.4 sec reload not sure if its worth it thus im asking
I ran anonymous for about a week but would rather have people on my team be able to know it's me. While I do tend to get focused a lot, especially by arties, I find that people are more willing to listen to my suggestions/attempts at coordinating in chat. So I turn off anon after the week I tried it.
@@taugrim i knowthised this from the focus you get from arty in both games. i understand your legitiment reasoning, for me as an EU player with almost 2200wn8, coordinating in chat is not much of an added benefit. Since the english language is not fully understood. using the ping and quickwheel notifications help in general tho. So for me the benefit of less arty focus outweighs the negative effect of a xvm player not trusting me on my hidden stats. just my opinion, you stay you man:D Tho i think any good/unicum player will still look at the teams manuevering on the map and try to support or create perpendiculair lines of fire.
Misplaced. 430U armor is the problem, not the gun handling. The Italian meds are fine. The T95/Chieftain, EBR 105, Super Conq, and Obj 907 are the tanks that need to be toned down.
I really want to grind the Obj. 140 line but a part of me feels like it would be a waste since I can just grind another line and get the T62-A. Should I go for the 140 or just settle for the T62-A instead?
I prefer the 140 to the 62a. Been that way for 5 years. 140 has an extra degree of gun depression, better side hull armor, better frontal hull armor, and 5 kph higher top speed. Only thing T62a has over the 140 is a meaningfully stronger turret.
Better frontal and side hull armor, 1 degree more of gun depression, 5 kpm higher top speed. 62A has stronger turret armor but overall the 140 is better.
Better DPM and frontal hull armor than the 140, and ludicrous side hull armor as well. The only thing the 140 has over the 907 is a slightly small turret roof weak spot.
Maybe it's just me, but god damn, this gun has never hit a snapshot while I've played it. Despite having excellent soft stats and good aim time/accuracy, I just can't get it to behave. Despite it being less accurate both when stationary and on the move, I think the Patton can snap a shot miles better than the 140 can.
Yeah, but where in this gameplay can you say you actually did better because of the qualities of the 140? I think I could only give points for good gun handling and DPM but the 140 is definitely not the only tank with decent handling and DPM. Neeson probably could’ve done this with his 50M tbh. To be clear, my point isn’t that the 140 is bad, but rather your play could’ve been similarly replicated in many other tanks.
@@taugrim worldoftanks.com/en/news/updates/update-1-9-1-common-test-2/ "Fixed the issue of imbalanced spotting positions in the central area of the Fisherman’s Bay map" It's the second to last change. By this do they mean that they'll give the northern line of bushes a chance to spot the south part of mid?
Thanks for linking that. The article doesn't specify the change and I never bother with playing on Common Test. I have noticed that the north spawn at E6 or so seems to have bushes that don't work as well.
@@taugrim Not in any meaningful way (and actually the turret roof is far more vulnerable to overmatch than the 140s is). (And looking at their turrets, they both actually about the same effective armor. The 907s armor isnt nearly as good as people make it out to be. Meanwhile the gun is actively worse than the 140s. The only reason the 907 is used over the 140 in most CW matches is because its armor is because it has higher DPM and is better suited for brawls. But if it comes down to it, the 140 is 90% of a 907 to the point that they can be subbed out if you dont have enough 907s.
Overall I agree. While the 907 certainly isn't "healthy" for the game, its reputation as being a completely broken, OP tank is taken too far, especially when compared to tanks such as the 279e or the British Chieftain. In terms of hard stats, the guns on both are practically identical (slight handling advantages for the 907), the 140 has slightly better turret armor, the 907 slightly better hull armor, and the 907 gets a slight nod in terms of mobility.
Also OMG the side hull armor of the 907 is 100mm *and* sloped. That is bounce city. The 907 is much better at sidescraping than the 140. 907 also has slightly better DPM, which matters for who gets their 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc shot off before the other tank does.
There is no rigged bushes in Fisherman's Bay to my knowledge. I hear frequent complaints about that map, but 95% of the time I get spotted there is a clear reason for it.
@@taugrim For sure, 9:38 roughly where the 140's are is where I struggle personally on both sides, I guess it's just a matter of getting to know the area better (shot+spot angles). Your explanations within the video did clarify a lot for that side of the map though!
Many real unicums use almost no gold ammo. Like Taugrim and SirFoch and some others probably. And if you are a real unicum you dont need it..well except if you are grinding trough starter guns on the tank, but even then some dont use it. But TBH most tanks don't need gold ammo, especially mobile ones.
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I really like Taugrim's style of explaining gameplay - he really had me with pointing out two crucial points - firstly choosing damage over position is a classic mistake and secondly you have to respect vision and that you shouldn't be in a place where light tanks spot - because it is not that you can see but be seen. My respect for pointing that out so cleary
Really enjoyed this one Taugrim, I got a request for a video idea. I, and a lot of other people I know, have trouble with the jump between T9 and T10, the jump in skill in the battles and how to deal with that. Especially noticeable in full T10 games. So I wondered if you have any tips and could maybe make a vid about it, I think it could help a lot of people! Thanks!
I struggle a t10 too, I can keep my average win rate in all tiers apart from 10, so many tanks that can wreck you in seconds for a bad poke ( so many TD's at T10 zzz ).
For me it's all tier 9 moving to 10 , its really a big jump and a challenge. Super good request imo. o7
I noticed that all people with different skill levels struggle with it, I average about 2.4k wn8 on t10, while everything below that can easily reach 3+K. So it's not only bad players that have the problem. It's cool to see the likes, which indicates that even more people feel the same way, let's hope Taugrim notices
Even super unicums struggle with this. It's much easier to play Tier 9 than Tier 10, for a lot of different reasons.
In always love it when you get to the end of the game with a ton of HP left and decide to eat a shot to get a kill and they ammo rack you for 1000+.
Reminds me of my 3-mark game of 45TP :(
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If you get to the end of game with a ton of HP left on tier10 med you are doing something terribly wrong
@@neeeeeck9005 If you're losing most of your HP early in the game you're definitely doing it wrong.
A good guide, thank you!
You did not mention something that Lemming told about a week ago and you nicely demonstrated - 140 is team tank and it works better when paired with another.
Hey Taugrim. I haven't played WoT in well over a year, but still enjoy watching your guides. Thanks for the entertainment!
Glad to hear they're still worth watching.
This week I heard about a game called Spellbreak, a class-based BR game. It looks interesting. I'm still waiting for Oath to progress to Beta.
@@taugrim Spellbreak looks interesting. Watching you develop top strats for the game could be fun.
I tried Refight:The Last Warship. It's a WoWS-like BR game. While having some interesting gameplay mechanics, the game is underdeveloped and unpolished.
Thanks for the intel on Refight, I hadn't hear of it.
Are there any other games you're keeping an eye on?
@@taugrim I'm a huge nerd for gaming the systems in Crusader Kings 2, and I've sunk a lot of time into that game. Crusader Kings 3 releases in September, so I'm curious to see what they do with the franchise. Otherwise I'm keeping my eye out for something new because the gaming landscape is a bit meh right now. Maybe Cyberpunk?
I've never played a second of WoT but I've probably watched the majority of your tank videos. Been watching your channel since you were iron fisting people in swtor. Keep up the good content!
I'd suggest giving it a try! It's a very tactical game that plays itself way more slowly than the typical fps games
I just started playing wot again after not playing for over half a year - and now you upload this while I’m grinding the line (currently at the T-44). Perfect timing :-)
I finally got the 2nd mark on my 140! :D I'm so happy rn
Nice work!
Congrats!
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430U does get used in Clan Wars, but typically only 1 on Ensk, and sometimes Himmels. 140 is definitely preferred if you don't have a 907. It's one of the first tech tree tanks that any newer player who wants to get into competitive play should get.
277, 5A and EBR definitely come before the 140 in terms of CW
Good clans use 430U instead of 907 because its better to brawl fight, 140 is trashed
@@zenekk1010 No they don't. The 430U has not been used en masse as brawlers since the first month of after it's release. On any closed map where you will mostly be brawling teams will bring 279es and other heavies and not run many meds at all. In any open or semi open map you want 907s or 140s because they have the flexibility to snipe, brawl and rotate. The 430U is too slow to rotate and it can't snipe, or hit EBRs.
@@yaboiyosef7640 277 and 140 are tied. Nobody uses 5As, only when all your other tanks are locked, and EBRs should only be driven by experienced players. Re-read my comment and notice that I said NEW players. If you don't have competitive experience but you want to start playing then a 277 and 140 are the first tanks you should get if you don't have them already, followed by the SConq.
@@von3254 Your comment really helped me. By any chance can you tell me what the prefered artilleries, lights and tank destroyers are?
I just want to say thank you for making these types of videos.
when I started watching you and lemmingrush just over a month ago, my overall wn8 went from 1000 to 1250 in a month with 2200 recent! I am very grateful.
Glad to hear it! That's a huge jump in both your account and recent stats. 👊
Here’s the object 140 video you told me abt in whispers in wot I’ve been waiting nice video btw I enjoyed it
Thanks for posting this so quickly. Great content as usual.
The sub 300 damage rolls makes it feel like a T8. Especially, when you get 2 or 3 in row.
Cheers
Yea, but you can fire again in 5.5 seconds (with Rammer, BIA). The reload is soooo fast.
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True. But I've been in a few close fights that I could have won if it wasn't for the sequential low rolls.
Its frustrating when I hit for 280 and the enemy is slamming you for 400+.
I've been playing it more like a leo pta and getting better results.
Thanks.
Yea there's a fine line about how close do you engage in a 140. It has some armor, but it also has good camo. I advise patience in the 140, like how I and IndignantBeaver waited to push the 1 line until it looked safe to push.
Thanks for the great vid again! Fun fact, got the Object 140 more than a year ago, and could not do good in it. I recently acquired the tier 9 Obj. 430, and I got a 60% average winrate with over 60 games played if I remember well. In a recent streak of games trying to get the top engine and tracks, I accidently clicked the Obj 140, and found it played a lot like the 430, but with a better gun and mobility. I'll rotate this tank again in my play sessions from now on :)
Looking to get back into WoT after a few years away. I have a 140 waiting for me....glad to see it's still more than relevant even with the bunch of new tanks that have appeared.
Looking forward to the STA-1 Review, have been grinding that tank myself.
Thanks for the video, Taugrim. You make it look so easy, especially without using premium ammo. And, it's good to see a player such as yourself who is a gentleman in a game that has plenty of toxicity. I agree with you, the 140 is much more enjoyable to play. I really prefer a good handling gun that has less alpha than vice versa. Enjoy your videos! Also, look forward to seeing your videos on the STB-1 line!
Well these are also longer games where I'm alive and contributing. I have potato games too.
Thanks, having to re purchase the 140 for clan battles. Helped remember the best way to play.
Oh you did it! A 140 video! Thanks man :)
Can't make the 140 work for me for the life of me. That excellent aiming you talk about equal over 50% bounces for a mere mortal. Beyond my talents...
Fantastic review and thank you! Even though I am way better of a player now I do way better in the old T-62A/140 than compared to the Obj 907/430U. I really don't understand it but the stats clearly favor the earlier meds. All logic should tell me I should perform better in the new OP tanks.
You might be forcing things in the 907/430U. I found that I was being over aggressive in the 430U in my first 60 battles, hence the awful 43% WR. Once I was a bit more careful I ran 60% WR over the next 140 battles or so.
@@taugrim Thank you for taking the time to respond. I will take your advice and play more conservatively. You might be right on money as at times I'm aggressive with my lights/mediums.
It amazes me that you can poke the same spot at G3 over and over without getting destroyed. If I did that I would receive so much inbound fire that the last 4 or 5 shots would make the hitting-dead-tank sound.
I used broken timing. Better not to be too predictable. Also keep in mind I was not light at multiple points.
Thanks for this vid. I'm glad I kept my 140 and it's crew. If the nerf to the 430u is too much for my taste, I'll move its bounty/bond equipment to my 140 and play that one a lot more instead.
However, I do have a weak spot for the K91 and do want to learn how to drive it properly. And not just use it as a Mobile tank destroyer.
Personally I think the 140 is okay, the plinky nature of the gun is cool, but the armor is just not there as much as it used to be for randoms since the gold spam meta kicked up. I think the progetto and the M48 are better jack of all trades mediums because of the higher alpha and much more reliable armor on both, with the M48 you have nice wide tracks and a curved upper plate with 9 degrees of depression that can easily brawl on uneven ground. The progetto has an auto bounce hull like the STB but it has the autoreloader to eat through hordes of tanks. I think my current medium tier list is Prog, TVP, STB 1, UDES, M48, then 140, not including rewards tanks because they don’t exist according to the creative lead at WoT.
The M48 is very bad at playing vision games. While it can spot, it is EASILY spotted.
@@taugrim While I agree, most pub matches, which is what this list is influenced by, are not played by people who know how vision mechanics work. Combine that with the M48s view range and at least the M48 can work a bush. In addition to this, I don't think the role of medium tanks is to spot using vision, depending on the medium it is either straight damage dealing(aka Leo 1) or brawling(aka 430U). I would rather have an EBR doing anything with vision than any medium tank at the current moment. Hopefully this meta changes to a point where vision truly matters for medium tanks again.
hey Taugrim, great video!
I am wondering if you could take a look at the IS-M. I’ve never played a back turreted tank, and I want to start with this line, wanting to reach at least the 705. Also, the ISU-152 it’s a good option again! Thx
Finally! the stb-1 is great, the sta-1....not so much. the line gets real good at t9 but the chi ri can be surprisingly savage with its autoloader.
Taugrim, just a suggestion about an old tank: the A20 is now tier 5. I've had one YEARS and have a 3 skill crew in it. The speed is great and the view range is acceptable (I mount optics/binocs and vents). I was pessemistic when the light changes came out (the gun is poor at tier 5) but I've found that it is a brilliant active and passive scout now (with a good crew and modules accepted). It has the speed to get to good spots and the view range to hurt both active and passive. Love to hear your views on another tank that has been around a while.
Nice to see a new video from you !
I am at T-54 actually. I had a horrible 14 games losing streak (1 win then 14 losses) when I firstly bought it and played it stock. That made me hate the tank and abandoned the whole line, and moved to the newly reworked 430 line by that time.
Recently I freexp'd the top gun of T-54 (again with your advice, since you said in a video that you would play M46 patton once you freexp the top gun). I suppose the gameplay is very close between the 2 tanks (T-54 / Obj 140). Are most advices for 140 still valid for T-54 ?
Thank you for the great guide
Thanks Taugrim! i requested this ! lol
Me too! :)
I would to see the M48 Patton video. I do not think he ever did it.
The Obj140 was is my first tierX medium tank however now that I got myself a Obj907 it’s been collecting dust your video gave me the incentive to give it a spin still love it and it’s a whole lot easier to manage than my new Obj430U still both lose to the Obj907 honestly it’s a little too broken but it’s a reward tank so it better give me a great tank or at least and equal tank to my top tanks after my fiasco with the T22SR that one took me three try’s and I still end up losing it to a honest misunderstanding. I got the Obj140, T62a, T22SR, Obj907, K91, and now the Obj430U I’m trying to get the Obj430B right now it seems to a much improved Obj140 with the gun of the Obj430 but the hull of the Obj140 what is it mind me asking?
Hi taugrim, thank you for your great content. :)
140 used to have a weak turret but it was recently buffed. Before the buff it could have been overmatched by most guns so it was a weak point, but it's not any longer.
Hey Taugrim, could you do a video talking about what you think the meta is nowadays and why games seem quicker? Maybe it's because it seems like games are quicker with 15-3 steamrolls because they are more memorable or if the average game time is actually decreasing. My view is that the introduction of faster tanks (eg obj277, EBRs, etc) as well as very powerful hill/bushes and spotting positions have resulted in faster games and lopsided games. Thoughts?
I think the speed of tanks does influence how fast battles are resolved. I used to see the same thing in Armored Warfare where so many tanks were very fast.
I'm not sure if I could agree with you with Fisherman's Bay comment. While the rest of changes to it is good, the middle part of old Fisherman's bay was very fun to use, more powerful, and has a lot of quirks that you can abuse to get even more control of the map (like the option to destroy certain houses to open more shots to the city)
Meanwhile, the current mid is just...boring. There is only one useful layer of houses and bushes for each side, so there's no depth you can use (other than the long bushline in near the city I guess). The 'fake bush' (borrowing Circon terminology) killed the most important bush of that area, and if you lost the mid once there's almost no way to reclaim it unless the enemy made a collosal mistake.
Maybe it was just me being nostalgic, but one thing I'm sure of is that I had the best win rate of all map in the old version of that map so at least personally I just prefer the old version of it, results wise.
I think the biggest factor between the 430U and the 140 is the alpha of the 430U which is more forgiving ad I believe getting the DPM to work over raw alpha takes more effort and skill. On the reward tank front I find the thought process of giving the best players OP tanks:) I understand you have to make the rewards worth while but seems a poor idea.
Thanks for the great tank review.
What perks do you recommend for the crew of Obj. 140?
See the 1st 10 seconds of a video to see the crew skills. But obviously on most meds, aside from essentials (Sixth Sense, Safe Stowage) you want Concealment and Repairs.
I havent played this yet (lack of credits), but i really struggled with T-54. Maybe video of that anytime soon?
The T-44, T-54, and 140 all share the same playstyle, and I've reviewed two of those in the past month.
Imagine a player like Taugrim in this 140 vs a player in a fully bond equipement and food 140...
Throw in that plus gold ammo, and I'd be 4K WN8 in that tank.
.. sounds so easy . :) thnx for the review
Dang, awesome games Sir!!
Thanks mate! Please may you tell me what to do: I have played 10 games in my Obj 430U and I have an average of 2.6k per battle... I hadn't even won one game... like how do I win games... I don't think it's me because I never camp and play to win and don't play just to get marks etc... It's just really frustrating when im the last one alive having to fall back after all my team just die so erly... there was one game where it was down to the last 7 tanks in either team... All the other games were 15-1 or about 15-6 losses... like how can i win i just hate this game now
I used to want to grind the T-54. When I got it, I had 14 losses out of 15. Posted a rant in the forum, and abandoned the tank to the dust
Simplest advice I can give is platoon with other competent players. When you have 2-3 people working together on a team it helps.
Aside from that, we all go through losing streaks.
Man ,I used to it (loosing streaks).whenever I get new tank and is stock I get trash teams..it's like WG wants me to spend my gold for module upgrades.
@@taugrim thanks mate! I'll try do that. Also thanks again for the great content, I have to say it's really underrated. Stay safe bud 🙏
@@disabor yeah ironically I was in my t 54 ltwt. Stay safe bud 🙏
if you have enough credits to burn I suggest 140 only for farming bonds, no other tanks other than artillery is worth playing in tier 10, This tank is made to spot enemy I Suggest improved rotation binocular telescope and the bond vent, Up your crew with BIA and cammo you are virtually a light tank with crazy good gun handling you can turn tides of enemy into burnt hull you also need a good team that can shoot spotted targets, with these equipment's you get extremely crazy view range, specially once you unlock the field modification for secondary slot(scouting)
i watched quite a few your videos about medium or light tanks.. However not once i seen you revising anything in the tight or small maps like Himmelsdorf, tundra, pilsen etc. Its one thing to play those tanks in wide open maps with lots of room, completely another in tight, crowded, narrow maps.
The following episodes feature light and mediums on the 3 maps you referred to:
Himmelsdorf 1 70 105 107
Tundra 33 39 62 84
Pilsen 79
I only have that one episode featuring Pilsen because I hate that map and have it blocked.
The only problem I have with the 140 is the low alpha. The gun feels anemic and unless you can keep your gun singing consistently a tank like the Leo or the 430u can easily out damage it.
Very true.
430 is better for the lower skilled players because of the alfa. It takes a lot of skill to constantly find situations to shoot the enemy and tanks with rapid fire guns need it. If you take shot every 15s you basically cut your dpm by 65% in 140 and only by about 30% in 430. Also higher mobility makes a tank harder to control and encourages players to take more aggressive positions which more often results in their deaths. For example I've recently had a game in my t30 in which I did 7.5k dmg and at the same time I am happy when I do 2.5k dmg in Heat 54. Those highly mobile, fast firing tanks simply require more skill to take advantage of their stronger points.
Absolutely. In meds you have lower-alpha/lower-pen guns, and you have to know how to use the mobility to get to advantageous positions.
Can you review the T-54? Thank you.
Check out Episodes #8 and #9, they're older but still accurate in terms of mechanics and playstyle.
Stb1 review nxt? :) or stb1 tech line?
Reviewing the tiers 8-10 of the STB-1 line next.
@@taugrim thank you :) and why not add the STA-2? Right 🥰 and tier 7 is good to view too tbh
Hello again!!!! You need to make video about B-C 25 T, i guess its almost the same like B-C 25 T AP, so you will make one video.
Could you do a video on the Obj 140 vs T-62a as they are much closer in stats than say Obj 140 vs Obj 430U please.
I could, but others have covered that topic. The 140 is the superior tank. It has 1 more degree of gun depression, a far better armor layout, and 5 kph more top speed. The 62a has a stronger turret but the 140's turret is more than good enough.
@@taugrim Thanks for the fast reply I am at best an average lets say 1 mark player would the T-62a be more forgiving to play due to the extra armour ? I dont do clan wars just randoms.
STB-1 review? It's tough for me to learn its super funky armor and trollish gun handling
Planning on reviewing the STA-1, then either the Type 61 or STB-1 next. I despised the Type 61. The STA-1 is OK and the STB-1 is good.
@@taugrim thank you Tau! I loved the Type, it had great DPM and a great gun, the only problem was it was huge and had no armor
For me the crippling thing about the Type 61 was the horrid camo (~20 with Concealment and BIA skills). That's so bad that I was getting spotted in bushes by other lights and mediums.
The vast majority of meds that are soft have either good speed and/or good camouflage. The Type 61 has neither.
good stuff, will we ever see the shit barn ?
No, because those tanks revolve around premium ammo (HESH). I did play the FV215b (183) with AP.
welp you might need to redo the 430U review soon if the nerf goes through
👍👍👍👍😎 ty T
I believe it's the t-62a that is very similar to the 140 and with that being said, which do you prefer? Is there an advantage the 140 has over it's counterparts?
140 for sure.
1 extra degree of gun depression.
Better frontal hull armor.
Much better side hull armor due to the slope.
5 kph more top speed
The only thing that 62a has over the 140 is a strong turret.
Taugrim So the t-62a is really a better hull down tank. Seems very situational. Thanks for the insight! I currently have the 430u and haven't decided between the t-62a and the 140. I think I'll go for the 140 ;D
Go compare the armor models on tanks.gg. The 140 turret is weaker on the top and cupolas. It's noticable.
That's exactly the reason why the 62a has fallen out of favor whereas the 140 is still competitive.
Hey Taugrim, curious to know your thoughts on the Progetto and Standard B nerfs!
Unwarranted and unneeded. Those tanks are fine.
@@taugrim So sad to see WG propose this, really makes you wonder what goes on in their heads.
I totally agree. They're nerfing the wrong thing on the 430U.
My guess is they don't want to nerf armor because it forces more gold spam, which creates a stronger credit sink, which puts pressure on players to spend real money to boost their in-game credit earning ability.
@@taugrim I think the opinions of the Russian player base is also a factor. They are going in the right direction with the 430U cupola nerfs, however 280mm effective still requires gold. If they simply thinned it a bit further down to around 220mm it would be a breathe of fresh air. Still, Italian tank nerfs are all I can think about now 🙄
Raging raptor mentioned that the prog 65 is seen on the russian servers the same way we see the 430u. I feel like the generally more aggressive playstyle of russians gets shut down by the prog 65 unless you catch it reloading.
Taugrim, what do you think about dropping the rammer for imp vents?
You should never drop a rammer. Every tank that can use a rammer and a V-stab should use both, the question is what you do with the 3rd slot, optics or vents.
@@von3254 hmm thanks. Im using the imp vents instead of the rammer to boost everthing by 7.5% i only loose 0.4 sec reload not sure if its worth it thus im asking
Taugrim do you play anonimyzed? if no, why do you not do it as a unicum player?
I ran anonymous for about a week but would rather have people on my team be able to know it's me. While I do tend to get focused a lot, especially by arties, I find that people are more willing to listen to my suggestions/attempts at coordinating in chat.
So I turn off anon after the week I tried it.
@@taugrim i knowthised this from the focus you get from arty in both games.
i understand your legitiment reasoning, for me as an EU player with almost 2200wn8, coordinating in chat is not much of an added benefit. Since the english language is not fully understood. using the ping and quickwheel notifications help in general tho. So for me the benefit of less arty focus outweighs the negative effect of a xvm player not trusting me on my hidden stats. just my opinion, you stay you man:D
Tho i think any good/unicum player will still look at the teams manuevering on the map and try to support or create perpendiculair lines of fire.
*Soviet. Thanks for the video
He is weak on small 100mm guns. 120mm is wear it starts being effective. Especially the hesh rounds on the centurion 7/1.
What do you think of the WOT plans to nerf the 430 / 430U & the Standard B / Progetto 65?
Misplaced.
430U armor is the problem, not the gun handling.
The Italian meds are fine.
The T95/Chieftain, EBR 105, Super Conq, and Obj 907 are the tanks that need to be toned down.
thanks
I play my 140 better than the 430u. I think it's because I'm terrible in heavy tanks.
The 430U is also slower and has potato gun handling.
I really want to grind the Obj. 140 line but a part of me feels like it would be a waste since I can just grind another line and get the T62-A. Should I go for the 140 or just settle for the T62-A instead?
I prefer the 140 to the 62a. Been that way for 5 years.
140 has an extra degree of gun depression, better side hull armor, better frontal hull armor, and 5 kph higher top speed.
Only thing T62a has over the 140 is a meaningfully stronger turret.
@@taugrim Wow never really thought about their differences that way since I view them as twins, looks like 140 it is. Thanks for the insight Taugrim!
Hi, how it compares to T-62A?
Better frontal and side hull armor, 1 degree more of gun depression, 5 kpm higher top speed. 62A has stronger turret armor but overall the 140 is better.
Taugrim I am curious to why you think 907 is broken OP I personally disagres
Better DPM and frontal hull armor than the 140, and ludicrous side hull armor as well. The only thing the 140 has over the 907 is a slightly small turret roof weak spot.
@@taugrim that does not make the 907 OP have you ever play one?
It makes it better
907 armor in the current meta Is a joke
Gun trolls
Do you plan on revisiting the B-C 25t (or Char 25t as I like to call it xP) in the future?
Maybe, but the playstyle for the Bat Chat is the same as when I reviewed it years ago.
Maybe it's just me, but god damn, this gun has never hit a snapshot while I've played it. Despite having excellent soft stats and good aim time/accuracy, I just can't get it to behave. Despite it being less accurate both when stationary and on the move, I think the Patton can snap a shot miles better than the 140 can.
Yeah, but where in this gameplay can you say you actually did better because of the qualities of the 140? I think I could only give points for good gun handling and DPM but the 140 is definitely not the only tank with decent handling and DPM. Neeson probably could’ve done this with his 50M tbh. To be clear, my point isn’t that the 140 is bad, but rather your play could’ve been similarly replicated in many other tanks.
Hey Taugrim WG announced that they are changing the middle of the map to balance spotting positions, what do you think about this change?
Can you link the article? I didn't see it.
@@taugrim worldoftanks.com/en/news/updates/update-1-9-1-common-test-2/
"Fixed the issue of imbalanced spotting positions in the central area of the Fisherman’s Bay map" It's the second to last change.
By this do they mean that they'll give the northern line of bushes a chance to spot the south part of mid?
Thanks for linking that. The article doesn't specify the change and I never bother with playing on Common Test. I have noticed that the north spawn at E6 or so seems to have bushes that don't work as well.
@3:27 The 140 has 200 meters of armour? Jesus Christ! LOL I think you meant millimeters not meters. :)
Thw 907 really isnt that broken of a tank. The 140 is still pretty much 90% of a 907.
It's turret and frontal hull armor are better.
@@taugrim Not in any meaningful way (and actually the turret roof is far more vulnerable to overmatch than the 140s is). (And looking at their turrets, they both actually about the same effective armor. The 907s armor isnt nearly as good as people make it out to be. Meanwhile the gun is actively worse than the 140s.
The only reason the 907 is used over the 140 in most CW matches is because its armor is because it has higher DPM and is better suited for brawls. But if it comes down to it, the 140 is 90% of a 907 to the point that they can be subbed out if you dont have enough 907s.
Overall I agree. While the 907 certainly isn't "healthy" for the game, its reputation as being a completely broken, OP tank is taken too far, especially when compared to tanks such as the 279e or the British Chieftain. In terms of hard stats, the guns on both are practically identical (slight handling advantages for the 907), the 140 has slightly better turret armor, the 907 slightly better hull armor, and the 907 gets a slight nod in terms of mobility.
You're right about the turret roof on the 907a - it is a larger weak spot. That said, the cupolas are better protected on the 907.
Also OMG the side hull armor of the 907 is 100mm *and* sloped. That is bounce city. The 907 is much better at sidescraping than the 140.
907 also has slightly better DPM, which matters for who gets their 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc shot off before the other tank does.
why no vents on the equip layout?
Optics/Rammer/VStab is the holy trifecta for single-shot meds.
ah ok nice to know thanks!
Please try out eu server some time?
yea Russian game Russian bias be nice if they put some more love in USA tank might get bigger play base
why dont u use prem ammo?
taugrim.com/2015/02/19/road-to-unicum-guide-videos-for-world-of-tanks/#no-gold-ammo
taugrim.com/2015/02/19/road-to-unicum-guide-videos-for-world-of-tanks/#gold-ammo-credit-sink
Am I the only one here who does not know how to play mid on this map?(Fisherman's Bay) like I dislike the 'rigged' brushwork that goes on
There is no rigged bushes in Fisherman's Bay to my knowledge. I hear frequent complaints about that map, but 95% of the time I get spotted there is a clear reason for it.
@@taugrim For sure, 9:38 roughly where the 140's are is where I struggle personally on both sides, I guess it's just a matter of getting to know the area better (shot+spot angles). Your explanations within the video did clarify a lot for that side of the map though!
Woah, does this guy not play gold?
No gold ammo in Randoms for me, ever: taugrim.com/2015/02/19/road-to-unicum-guide-videos-for-world-of-tanks/#no-gold-ammo
@@taugrim That's respectable, I like it a lot :) but would you consider gold ammo if it was appropriate for the situation and not because it's p2w?
Many real unicums use almost no gold ammo. Like Taugrim and SirFoch and some others probably. And if you are a real unicum you dont need it..well except if you are grinding trough starter guns on the tank, but even then some dont use it.
But TBH most tanks don't need gold ammo, especially mobile ones.
*Fine vodka
aaaaaaaaaaaand its getting substancially buffed ..wtf :(
And WG is gona nerf progetto 65 🤪
It's stupid.
669th viewer!!!
I hate this bad tank, is very very bad