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I don’t have an issue with helicopters and tanks, it’s the map design. Some maps are just too big, and tanks can get into spots where I can’t reach them or it’s nearly impossible to hit them with Lis’ rockets. Meanwhile, the tank can just sit there blasting artillery at the base like it’s handing out candy. I also can’t get close to them because the map is so flat, and you just become an open target right away. When you combine this with a skilled tank player, it doesn’t matter how you play-it’s almost impossible to take them out because of the map design. This is especially a problem in Breakthrough mode.
True. Same with jets and helis, on super open maps like Kaleidoscope if you want to move between points you don't have any cover, just giant open spaces and 200m to point
Same with teamwork, even if you pick engineer to counter vehicle (class with useless abilities like boris turret) no one would drop you ammo to refill
Lmao, what a terrible take. 2042 is 100% THE vehicle BATTLEFIELD. Almost every one of them is broken in even a Semi skilled pilot/driver. It's also the most vehicle heavy battlefield we've ever had. I'm guessing your a nighthawk farmer.
@@Jabullzbro doesn’t even know it’s nightbird and not nighthawk but thinks he knows anything about vehicle gameplay 💀
@@JabullzYou’re terrible
Yep 2042’s map design is the single thing limiting the gameplay. Stupid wide open maps with 0 cover.
>battlefield community being horrendous
>community receives horrendous games
who could have seen this coming
> It's the players fault Battlefield 2042 sucks
Not EA or the incompetent devs at DICE
Thinking about the skins i would just like an option in game to disable them and just show default look of players. like people can waste cash on skins to show off, I personally don't want to see them and prefer to know my targets by a glance(silhouette recognition of class)
That is never going to be a thing, because then people wouldn't be able to show them off (as you stated) Which means they would lose a lot of value meaning less profit for EA.
@@toffe09 oh I know they would never do it but a man can still dream...just sick and tired of the current gaming sphere that is micro transaction heavy(which sadly is here to stay) 😔
@@REDtheBEAST I hear ya. Yeah, that battle was lost a long time ago so here to stay yeah. Personally I buy stuff here and there if I feel the game is within my interest. Sort of like giving them validation. Only thing they'll listen to anyway, lol.
just keep default skins activated and don't change to the colouring book options
”Silhouette recognition” is where it’s at, @@REDtheBEAST, 💯 agree. I liked the return of classes because it added readability but then some skins broke that: ex one with deer horns
I hope Zampella cares about silhouette recognition!
To play devils advocate, sometimes skins DO EFFECT games/game design pretty heavily. By not being able to tell what class is what because of a skin or lowering visibility of the characters in game. No to to mention the pretty large amount of harm it's done to in game progression because the things you can actually EARN in game are less and less as it's skewed more and more toward forcing players to pay real money for things they'd have just gotten 10 years ago if they were good enough/played long enough. So it kind of waters down the sense of things do IN GAME a bit.
It's lower on the tier of actual SERIOUS problems BF in particular is facing obviously, but it does just add to the tally of things that degrade the overall quality of the games we get.
Does anyone remember paying bf2 and having either army look different enough that you don't need to plaster green or red lights on them, and you could more easily play without a hud? Yeah.. i want that.
Yeah bf2 was great
And six classes
You can do that in bf4 :)
EA DICE should only ask Core Battlefield Players, not that foggy blinded kids that only want BR and Skins etc.
i mean the mature BF Community that knows what a good Battlefield needs
Speaking of skins, its very simple to fix this controversial topic. They just need to add a toggle in settings to replace crazy skins with default soldier models. This will satisfy both - people who want more realistic grounded looking battlefield without clowns, demons, Niki Minajes running around and 12yos with moms credit cards
I would pin this if I could
Always thought of exactly what you just said.
Or just add realistic military skins
Yep. One of the biggest reasons I quit cod
Why do you guys think that mothers and parents of 12 year olds just allow their kids to buy anything they want??! Is everybody else rich but you?? It's always kids when you know it's not kids it's adults who actually have expendable income. People that are unlike you
@@Desh282poor
Always centered corsshair , fix patterns (affect by attachments) , visual suppression .
BFV type movement without the slide .
Maps designed for 32 v 32 + more interesting destruction system .
Classes .
Server browser .
Better progression .
And much more ..
the battlefield reddit is a lost cause. good clips get almost zero engagement while some dude botwalking on BF1 with the HUD disabled gets 6K upvotes.
🤣 I’m assuming there’s some hyperbole but I’m afraid to check
@@alexdasliebe5391 it got 6.2k......
Dont forget the lvl 50 player who downs 2 planes with a Fliegerfaust back 2 back: 300 Upvotes.
A clip of you destroying half the enemy team with a ZK: Meta Slave and "you didnt revive"-300 downvotes.
@@vnomthrasher_sf9854 Average battlefield player is a massive roleplayer that actually wants to play Squad, not battlefield.
Because in 2024 noone actually cares about how or where or why you sweat in casual game against casual players. For 99.99% of audience u r just that annoying dude everyone wants to kick out of lobby. Noone is intrested in interacting with you or watching your ego based "content".
Ridiculous skins DO affect me . I want a uniformed army not a clown show.
I personally would love it to be 100% personal outfit, not just a generic army. But with that I mean no class system at all, just you and your imagination of what setup you want. We don't have old school fronts in a modern war anyhow.
I agree. The main focus should be simply be gameplay. Aspect like: gunplay, vehicle/infantry combat, teamplay (healing, reviving, resupplying), gadgets (AT, C4 or any equipment that heavily influences gameplay), game modes, map design and progression. These are the elements that actually make up the experience for 80% and I would love for them to finally innovate in these areas.
I do disagree somewhat on skins being unimportant. Yes, they aren’t as important as aspects mentioned above, but running around with neon prink/green camo on your gun definitely effects how the game looks and feels in terms of style. However, they do not make or break the game.
Bro enders is a narcissistic piece of shit , he's not gonna like ur post bcz he plays with those type of skins and make the game looks ridiculous with his playstyle, he thinks that every bf player is an insane player like him gettin 90 kills, he doesn't understand that the majority want a slower movement more realstic looking game harder to master guns at least the core community wants that
People can't think anymore... it's all about feeling
Right, they regurgitate what ever they hear. I saw someone say that many people can’t express themselves and I’m starting to believe it
If I die more than three times to the same vehicle in a game and I don’t see anyone else on my team attempting to nullify the vehicle I switch my kit up and actively attempt to do something about it. I become a huge pain to the vehicle driver just out of spite. 😂
I usually whip out a soflam and become annoying as hell. Plenty of engineers who want to destroy vehicles. But not enough spotting them.
Oh yeah I agree Kit-Switching should definitely be in the next Battlefield and as for the Infantry-Vehicle Balance, I still believe that BF3 is the only BF game that got the Infantry-Vehicle balance right. I hope the current DICE team can replicate this balance
BF3 vehicle balance was not too bad, but personally I think the balance of vehicles in BF2 was better than BF3. You also had some neat features like 2-seater bombers that sadly did not come back in future titles.
Hey Enders, how about making a video were you show us how to efectively fight against vehicles? I am one of these 1.5 KD players and I´m struggeling very much if there is, for example, a good skilled pilot with his deadly Minibird. There is a lack of teamplay and it feels some kind of impossible to fight a vehicle on my own.
My k/d is roughly around yours 1.8 and I'm predominantly an infantry player. I just ignore and runaway from vehicles because i don't see much point in fighting them. BF is a squad game but little team work ever happen unless you load in with friends and fighting vehicles as a solo infantry is pointless. BF 3 & 4 i would've fought it solo because the balance was good. Now it's just running towards your death
Will consider
@@EndersFPSThanks for thinking about it. That would definitely be an interesting video.
Greetings from Germany.
@@EndersFPS Yes, definitely an interesting video. If you can pull it off. If you are one good player, then against a very good pilot, there is basically only one option: leave the server. Or play indoors for the rest of the round. If you are there with your mates and have 3+ players in Discord/TeamSpeak, then you can mostly keep them in check and annoy them to not constantly kill your team, but then you and your squad mates do basically nothing but that. And if they are very good, you can't even kill them. Just make them pop flares and run to repair, then come back. And then this is not fun either and you are in that scenario also better off leaving the server.
I think we can agree that BF4 had the most nuanced vehicle combat, Helis weren’t as OP in 3 (zoom hover cheese), Tanks had directional damage values, mechanics like unspotting etc.
I think bf3’s vehicle combat was a little more balanced, but I enjoyed bf4 a lot more. Bf4’s attack choppers were useless and I don’t think they were that overpowered in 3.
Way too many guided missiles in 4 that require absolutely zero skill, you dont even have to aim (active radar/staff shell/ mbt law)
If 3 had heli's range was decreased a bit, it would have been perfect
you probably forgor about bf4 jets 💀
@@notenjoying666 what did I forget about the Jets?
A good attack heli pilot on Siege of Shanghai was pretty OP though.
Bad take about skins. Women are ok (because it's modern) but the skins ruin the aesthetic. I like immersion AND good, skilled gameplay. I played BF4 for 4000+ hours and was one of the best tank players in my country, on helicopters pretty high up too. I skipped BFV and BF2042 and can easily skip the rest of them... I've quit gaming mostly, to bring me back it would need to be pretty fking special. Skins dilute the visuals, even the ones other people bought. BF4 did it right, in a military game the armies should look like armies. Military units use cohesive uniforms.
Just because it's entertainment, doesn't mean this doesn't matter. People go see a movie like "Saving Private Ryan" or "Zero Dark Thirty", they don't want to see some random skins on the weapons and actors using some weird flashy uniform, to "stand out". This is no different. The whole reason graphics are pushed, and people buy new GPUs, is better immersion. You can't just dilute that with moronic skins, in a military themed game.... if you do, you f*cked up
If EA wants to be greedy and milk $$$ with their skins marketplace... maybe they should stop doing military games then. It's the worst possible combo.
it's a video game. its unrealistic. if you want immersion play a milsim. very easy solution lol. EA will never prioritize immersion or realism since battlefield has never been realistic.
Personally, I would also prefer it if there were no skins. But realistically, it's not going to go away. EA wants to make money and that's an easy option. I'd be happy if they at least didn't go too absurd with the skins. Or at least offer a few realistic ones. Every single skin in the store just looks like carnival and with every season they got even crazier... Of course the gameplay is the most important thing. But for me personally, visual immersion is also important. If it's purely about the gameplay, why choose a military theme at all?
Tldr but I think the point is some people rather have their view of a nice skin than, you know, functional mouse/controller input. For 3 years the dumbasses on the subreddit still blame the faulty input on aim assist... Lol.
No way you ever noticed the skin of someone you're shooting at. I swear y'all just don't play the game or are lying. The gun fights are way too quick for that.
@@AlexT0210 Bad skins is enough to flop the game before it even releases... like BFV. Maybe EA wants to try that again.
Sure there's other things that will go wrong. I'm fully expecting it to suck in number of ways. Wrong kind of visual style is the first barrier. Other things can be patched later
Community is smashed after a bad game after a bad game. Let's hope it can gather its broken pieces. But imo I only see this happening if the next game is good. I mean BF3 good
Unironically tho look at the numbers. When skins and women were front and center of V and 2042 both titles flopped
Silly comment, bf2042 suffered from gameplay and design choices whole bf5 suffered from dumb marketing and early problems
@@edgaraf9411I don’t agree with op buuuut the biggest PR disaster surrounding BFV was centered on a British one armed woman being in a ww2 game.
@@aa-kz7hc correct that's what I was referring to
@@edgaraf9411 OP's comment is spot on. What you and many refuse to understand is that this mindset that DICE took on, starting largely with BFV, is why it and 2042 are such poor games. The same mindset that compelled DICE to put a woman at the forefront of BFV is the same mindset that resulted in such a buggy, unoptimized, BF2042 that was lacking even basic features. it's all connected.
@Brutaful no you goofball, the only thing ever remotely connecting those is the "make money mindset" which again, has little do with having women in a video game making it bad. It's correlation not causation
This is why i really like your channel, sometimes im not agree with some of your takes, but most of the times, i agree. You call things as they are and im down with that line of plp
Hi Enders, i just wanted to make a point on vehicules vs inf. : i consider myself as a good player (around 4KD), i've been playing this franchise since bf2 20 years ago and i can say that vehicules in recent titles are very strong, in bf5 for exemple, i mind my own business killing inf like a normal player, taking cover and so on, and then i get 1 framed by a f-ing tank or jet across the map without any audio or visual cue to indicate anything to me, so yeah it sucks. In bf3, vehicules made A LOT of noise even when not moving... Anyways, that's my take on it.
Same here with 20 years BF experience. Vehicles are tough to keep alive if you don't have a good teammate willing to repair, and sir vehicles are tough to control so respect to those who master vehicles as I have never really managed to do it
It was far easier to kill vehicles in 3 and 4. BFV the tanks are OP and the glancing blow thing is bullshit. Hate it. I was a tank ace in 3/4 and can say confidently it's not hard to learn to use them. Nerf them. Make them rolling coffins. I hate vehicle whales
Glancing blow XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I answered the call, Enders
On the skins subject I have no issues with that, however there must be a theme to the skin to denote the class system used so you can identify that persons play style based on the class. A specific colour scheme or a specific colour helmet for example. Outside of that I would welcome skins
As long as the skins are realistic and fit the tone of the game then I have no issue with it whatsoever. But if we start getting into the CoD territory of skins then I won't be happy, I won't buy them, but I will have to see other people who buy them and the last thing I want to see in BF game is people in bunny outfits running around. So if they do have bad skins, they do kinda affect you even if you don't buy them.
One thing I would like to see return, I know it's very minor but I would like to hear more voice lines in game that sound more like BF3. It really made the soundscape come alive.
Also could we please get the ability to go up to a medic or support player and take ammo or health off them like in BF: Hardline. That is one feature I never understood why they never brought it back.
Literally the most useful feature
Idc if we get a female soldier character, that’s how militaries are in modern times. So why not just dew it? Flecktarn, desert, etc. camos as skins. Different helmets, boots, etc. BfV kinda did it rifht
You had this in bf3, 4 for free
what militaries are using women on the front lines right now?
@@stewie4467 you know what I mean. They may not be actively serving (except in Israel I think) but it’s a part of modern times that allows women in. Oh and the mentally ill for that matter too
Player base, no longer a community!!!
women in the game are a reflection of a greater problem
woke forced inclusion.... just wait... you'll see transgender soldiers soon... that's the next step of this brain dead companies
Nah, dude, you just need to touch grass /s
@@Brutaful Yeah just like we didnt have a bionic WW2 chick in a BF game right? Get me some grass I must be delusional. /s
No that's just delusional speaking
@@lyugui"bionic" This dude doesn't know what a prosthetic is
"DoNt BuY tHe SkIns", way to completely sidestep the point
You woke me up enders. What's the situation
Bro you must of searched hundreds of threads to find anyone yapping about those points. I have not seen a single person talk about ANY of these topics.
Me neither this guy has some stuff that no want says
Every video of his there’s someone complaining in the comments about women in the game. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist
Typical brain rotted dweller.
Hard to be a content creator when there's no content 😅
@@SyncroLive apparently you yappers are unaware of how prevalent your cringe is
Jesus, Ghostmaker Pro on fire! First a mega SCAR rampage last week or so, now insane CQ with the GMP. Lovely stuff! (Edit: spelling)
I think you are right, this video is really mature and healthy for this community and the next game. I have been more into the Battlefield franchise since I discovered this channel so I want to say "good job"
Battlefield is dead till proven otherwise and I disagree heavily with the skins.
+1
Battlefield is not dead, you would not be watching this video if it truly was
@@RoiDeCoeursfacts these people are very slow
In 2042 there’s plenty of ways to take out vehicles easily as a squad excel that nobody plays as a squad anymore, it worries me that even if the next BF is the greatest ever, The OG player base just isn’t there anymore to make it great to play. It’s just solos chasing kills or snipe shots nowadays.
From a technical standpoint though I just really hope they up the tickrate, not sure what it is on 2042 but when BF4 started having 120 (which think) tick rate servers they were silky smooth.
Skins aren't the most important aspect of the game by a long shot but it does snap me out of the immersion if I get slotted by someone running around with a neon gun 😂
be aware challenge: impossible
"Women shouldn't be in Battlefield". Based 🗿🗿
RIP bf if the devs listen to the brain dead battlefield subreddit.
They did with BF1, BFV and BF2042.
@@griffin1366
bf1 - 21million sold
Bf3 - 15million
Bfv - 7.3million
We wAnT bFv mOvEmEnT iTs bEtTeR tHaN bf1. 🤓
@@notenjoying666 ohh hey, I see you are one of those from the bf subreddit.
Call Of Duty: Advanced Warfare - 21.76 Million
Call Of Duty: Ghosts - 28.98 Million
Call Of Duty: Infinite Warfare - 13.6 Million
sales = good game ? hahaha. brain dead 0.86 kd bf player
@@notenjoying666 ohh hey avg 0.86 kd bf player, I see you are one of those from the bf subreddit.
Call Of Duty: Advanced Warfare - 21.76 Million
Call Of Duty: Ghosts - 28.98 Million
Call Of Duty: Infinite Warfare - 13.6 Million
sales = good game ? hahaha.
@@uul4289 Yes? 🤔
Whats wrong with ghosts?
U r of those warriors who avoid competition and sweating ONLY in casual shooters?
Tbh i can demolish you in valorant or cs easily idk what u r talking about lol.
True,im Italian and every time i see a conversation about BF in the italian community the only concern of many players are the skins, but i say, isn't it better to have a solid game with skins you don't like rather than having a shitty game with skins you like? nobody forces you to buy them.
They started bringing women in BF1 and it sucks.
Just say u get no pussy😭🙏
the only thing that seems me wrong is the autorepair function the skill, not the repair after some time, is frustrating how u can destroy a vehicle if u have enough skill in old bfs (bf3 or bf4 as example)
but now they have the skill to repair and run away added to the anti missile system
I would like to see a game mode that would keep the milsim/hardcore payers happy (im not one) but it would be interesting to see a frontlines style mode where there is 0 revives but also 0 spawn delay and possibly even no map, hud or even ammo counter, no weapon selection even, 200% damage and you basically just throw meat at an objective to try and overrun it, that would be interesting
Problem with vehicle balance is that main playerbase and the pros have different views on what is balanced. Usually it has been almost impossible to shoot down helis for normal players when pros usually say its too easy for example. As a normal player its just annoying when the pros dont see the other perspective at all, its easy to dismiss the normal playerbase when the pro scene is all they see.
Take DEI, which is basically all DICE cares about, out of Battlefield.
Really? That’s your biggest concern?
@@gothpotato It’s the root of the overall problem.
What’s of the most importance is D E. I. Forget gameplay, nobody wants that.
gameplay wise would like it to be similar to bf3 also map design
vehicle gameplay was really good in bf4 also the big bf4 maps where fine
that is it for me
But for me it is also important that the soldiers look like soldiers otherwise if it is a generic private army thing (you know that bland aestetic that appears in every game nowdays) it just looses me ngl
I’ve used the horse in bf1 effectively and I get tons of messages saying it’s overpowered . It’s pointless to argue with these people because they never acknowledge any opposing viewpoints. They’re just white noise.
During the BF1 beta and 4 months or so after launch, the horse was actually OP. It survived point blank tank shells and if a transport or armored vehicle wanted run it over it would bounce off the horse. There’s videos on RUclips showing this, those were fun times 😢
The horse in BF1 is overpowered if there are no tanks to kill it. As infantry unless the horse player is retarded they are impossible to kill. They have a sniper with infinite ammo and infinite health. A smart horse player is basically unkillable.
The horse is definitely not overpowered but it can be annoying like any other vehicle when there is a good player using ut
You can full heal yourself every 10 seconds just by pressing S and 3 lmao. They're busted beyond belief
@@stewie4467 horses die in 2-3 seconds under lmg fire or instantly from rocket guns, dynamite, tanks, planes. If you think the horse is busted, you’re just not good at the game. Simple as that.
Awesome video! A lot of this IMO is due to the fact its been 11 years since BF4, the last truly good all around BF. The fact that BF was nailing the gameplay back then overshadowed these types of complaints. But if something continues for long enough, you'll get conditioned by it:
- BF1 was mostly an infantry game fitting the era, as was BF5 despite the WW2 setting. Hardline was also mostly infantry focused.
- Realism in BF1 was a hit. It was a miss in BF5.
- EA features that female with a mechanial arm in WW2, then specialists in BF2042.
- Live service becomes the focus
- BF2042 basically missed on everything.
Personally i would be very happy with BF3/BC2 map design with BF4 gunplay and movement but fix the zouzou/vouzou/rouzou glitches among others.
To me that would be the perfect Battlefield.
As someone who has become the casual dad gamer, I think people like me need to be content with the reality that we just need to find fun in games. We, on average, are just not gonna compete with the high skill players. And people who make their money playing games are, on average, gonna be far more effective at giving feedback to the developers. Leading to games being mostly designed for RUclipsrs and their audience. And that is ok. Just know that you suck compared to others and find fun.
I like to see that squad play pays off . What is see is most of the time one soldier armies. That’s not what’s the difficulty of warfare is about.
I can confirm as vehicle player the same as a infantry 1 it's hard to take down a Heli as a single player as much as the vehicle do not survive too long on a battlefield . And all this is MAJOR MAJOR design flaws . They decided to give everyone AA weapons making them water pistols but you know if everyone carry this as a pilot you going to be under constant rain of this missiles . That did not change when they back to classes it was a bit better but not solving this issue . Do not make heroe shooters with op AA missile . Give AA not a water pistols but powerfull with some massive trade offs . It will work a lot lot better
A streamer telling a normal dude to go outside is wild. The reality of the situation is you and a very select group of people care about anything to do with competitiveness. The BF franchise cares about money and what “good players” care about doesn’t matter. As long as Timmy no thumbs enjoys the graphics and buys skins they don’t care.
He told someone to go outside because they don't want women in the game, is he wrong though?
Finally some common sense.
@@NevokanFPS more of a stupid opinion from that individual; obviously that dude is a dweeb. However, telling him to go outside when the fool plays games all day is an outrageous statement.
You realise, though, that it's the 'nerdy' nuances of the game (which can also make it competitive) that even allow casuals to run around like morons anyway?
Like for every squad of people gawping at textures, there are a load of people actually playing the game, game mechanics, etc, enabling them to do so in relative peace. There are so many layers that go into a game like battlefield, but the foundation has to be right. Ie, gunplay, no op aim assist, maps that actually play well, mechanics that allow someone to be more skilled than someone else etc etc
@@samborambo5634 i agree however majority of players definitely don’t care about the game being good like iconic bf. If they did then EA wouldn’t have gotten away with the last 2 games. The sad fact is that people who played BF in its prime are adults and while some still play games. The majority of players will always be little kids who haven’t experienced a good BF title and are conditioned to a horrible experience. So like I said nothing with change because brainless Timmy’s will always out number the adults and continue to give EA the majority of the money made from the game; mommy credit card.
a monster and prosciutto-wrapped mozzarella. college.
They never learn
Battlefield Reddit is the most braindead pile of no-hands. Reading posts in there makes you loose all hope. Whenever I get to see some stupid post from there I go play Shotgun on Underground or farm with the G6 on Fjell, just bc someone has to pay for these peoples stupidity.
Some people like playing battlefield with no hud and with skins its impossible to play just make it a option to disable skins for clarity.
enders these are all just casual battlefield players who don't even have the knowledge to bring up complex gameplay design so they're never going to 'wake up'. They just don't have the knowledge and also don't care enough to gain any knowledge.
They are too busy looking at the textures on the ground or some rat running across the battlefield (was posted on reddit).
if the casual players aren't happy playing the game, you don't have a game to play
@@stewie4467 According to who?
I can jump on BF4 right now and find a super sweaty server that obliterate casuals.
Bf5 had a good solution to the grenade spam of bf1. Didjt like spotting and slidinh is a bit annoyinh and i have trouble seeing enemies, plus the maps are way too sniper friendly
all the 0.6kd players won't like this video
But seriously, no women.
No need to bring your personal life into this
brother has never gone outside in his life. get a fucking grip jesus christ
Women aint the problem it's just they ruined the actual stories and cosmetics in bfv 😂 they were clueless about what they're doing
We know you don’t have any bro..
People who don’t want women in BF must be homosexual. I love women. Don’t you?
I think the reason for this is because people generally dont even think about gameplay atleast not casuals, to them they wouldnt understand what goes behind gameplay and why certain things work and other things dont, people really only criticized BF5 for the inclusion of women and they didnt even talk about the bad maps, bad visibility, gunplay issues, only good battlefield players understand these things. It seems the majority of the community is just casuals who dont have an understanding of game mechanics in the first place. I remember seeing a review for BF2042 when it came out saying "the game is good outside of the technical issues", goes to show lots of people dont actually understand what makes good fps games.
Homie I’m worried that you might not be a battlefield fan
Bf1 was great because of immersion
Bf5 failed cause of garbage skins
Bf5 failed because the entire game was trash LOL
@@EndersFPS really liked the movement.
But I think that one lady skin turned a lot of fans off. That’s why I didn’t buy the game
My only problem is battlefield stop putting those major things that change the entire map
you cant tell me that vehicles arent broken in bfv. any pilot that knows what they are doing will fly out of range of aa and ff while dropping 5 kills with every bomb from outer space. fjell is literally unplayable especially when you get the loser planes that have an agreement to not fight each other. it is super common to see pilots on both teams going 50-100/0.
or tanks in strategic that dont leave their spawn but farm everyone, aerodrome and panzerstorm are horrible for this. and again, the planes often times dont touch the tanks because theyd much rather abuse the infantry. i quit bfv after less than 50 hours when it first released and only had 1 conquest playlist. didnt play for up to 2 years. came back and was so happy to see that there was a strategic and tactical playlist, after which i put in a thousand hours into the game. tactical makes that game bearable
Imo Battlefield does not have a specific community; it's just one of those games almost everyone tries when it comes out, and how long they stay is determined by how good the released game is. Although I will acknowledge there is a hardcore BF community of about 10-15k people per region who continue to play the games no matter how old they get. These are the people who, I believe, are not very active online (partially because most of them probably have lives, work, etc., and spend the time they have off playing BF games, and partially because, well, there is nothing to talk about surrounding Battlefield during downtimes between games) (especially failed games).
I one of those snipers in game, but I change my position and, sometimes, play style. If I'm getting my ass kicked too much in game I will leave the server but I won't complain. Truth be told I love sniping and at least try and spot enemies for my teammates. And I spawn into vehicles to repair them. Do you have any tips for the type of player I am?
i want kit switching back as well. i don't know a single thing about making a game, but i wonder if the reason they dropped because of technical reasons made by firestorm and hazard zone
To be honest they need to make any sort of AA vehicle less easy to use and dominate with. Flying in BFV with stationary AAs ripping you to shreds instantly from across the entire map was not fun and this applies to mobile AAs aswell. Genuinely ridiculous.
Playing as infantry and getting mauled by air vehicles with no way to counter was also not very fun…
I think it is hard to have actual conversations with people about battlefield sometimes because in my opinion there are two sides to the game. Please take the time and read this.
The die hard sweaty players that enjoy being good at the game and the people who casually play the game.
When looking at the sweats of the game, they know the game inside and out. They know how to play the game and how to counter things in the game. They spent their own time getting good at the game whether that is heli, jet, tank or infy. The more casual players look at that and think wow im getting farmed by this guy, this heli is too over powered, this jet is too overpowered, this tank is too overpowered or that gun is too overpowered. But in reality it is genuinely a skill issue. Like you said they just do the most braindead things to try and kill said person in whatever they are doing then they just get mad and say its broken.
There have been times when something was actually broken, like when 2042 came out the attack heli was very very good it needed nerfed and i agree with it. That is coming from someone who still till this day plays bf4 attack heli and have spent hundreds and hundreds of hours in dog fight servers and in pubs in the attack heli. 2042 is honestly one of the most balanced fps shooters I have ever played. There are really no broken aspects to the game coming from me who has played every single battlefield. My only problem with the game isnt with the weapons of the vehicles or anything like that it is none of the face value things about the game that make it honestly shit.
The overall feel of the game is just not battlefield. Infantry feels like glorified call of duty. The map balance is also just horrible and does not flow at all. The vehicle spawn menu is just outright trash. Along with that like secret vehicle spawn restriction you get if you die in a vehicle you cant get back in it right away. The flying mechanics are absolutley horrible and it just feels like shit. The jets and helis are just not fun, not because they arent super over powered and cant farm the entire lobby all match they just do not feel good to fly at all. They do not flow, they dont feel proper. There is no momentum it feels like to either of them and overall just is not enjoyable to use. Why do you think i go back to bf4 still till this day and play in jets and helis, because they feel good, they flow great they feel like battlefield not like war thunder. Gta feels better than 2042 flying mechanics do.
People just focus on the wrong things. Like all I want is a game that has all the core aspect of battlfield. The normal simple class system, not a hero shooter. Vehicles that actually feel good and that are fun to use and flying mechanics that actually make sense. 2042 is a battlfield title yes, but it does not have anything except for the map size and lobby size that makes battlefield a battlefield. Battfield has been known for its different style and flow and feel of gameplay. From infantry gameplay and gun play to any and all vehicle gameplay. Not this glorified cod gunplay with warthunder flying mechanics with maps that just flow like shit. We dont need realizm, we need a battlefield. There has always been those two communities of players, cod players and battfield players. We need that back. We need the soundtracks, the campaign, the campaign unlocks, the stupid amount of available weapons to choose from the grueling infantry gameplay. Different songs for each map when we load in and a server browser. Just effort. We just need a battlfield. Not whatever you want to call 2042.
bf3 4 had no women.
or skins thats why i still play those
Yet they were goated. Really makes you think.
@@Storm0fSteel woke agenda ruined everything.
@@jasonk9968 same
What is even more important they are actually playable
I’m fully immersed in this
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I'm a simple man, I just want the gunplay from battlefield 4 with the movement from battlefield 1 (last stage of three game) (I happened to like that).
All of the other things don't matter as much to me.
kit switching also had BFBC2
Maybe a controvertial opinion but if EA want to keep players, one of the biggest things they need to look at is content the game has that keeps people coming back.
Take older BFs and older CoD for that matter, every gun had a multitude of camos to unlock (I loved the gold camo in bf1) 2042s problem is you grind to tier 1 and you unlock literally 2 skins for the gun, all the skins are available to all guns by default (and are terrible) and there's no real incentive to use them once you hit tier 1.
There's too much emphasis on paid for skins, which I get, but other BFs still had paid for skins like bf1 but you could unlock a lot by simply using the guns.
Attatchments is another thing too, most of the attatchments in 2042 were the exact same and mostly sights. Everything was very "samey" and unlocking them was fun until you realised all attatchments are the same, and some guns don't even get all of them (pp2000 doesn't get any grip attatchments).
The battlepass to me is a dying model, sure I get that it promotes grinding after you've done everything in the main game but half the stuff you get on it was kinda pointless tags/backgrounds (very few I thought were good) think CoD mw2 and the call card/call signs and how fun they were to unlock. Again content we didn't see on the same scale in 2042.
Players will play the game more if the core mechanics and gameplay is good ontop of having stuff to keep them playing (prestige was another good feature in my book as it gave you unique stuff to show the work put in).
2042s big drawback was the fact it felt empty, there was nothing to do after you'd got a T1 badge (the badges might of been more fun if each tier required something other than just simple kills, like "get 20 kills with the grenade launcher" "spot 100 people while zoomed in with a 6x scope or higher") that way it gets people using stuff they might not of used before, keeping things more interesting for doing what you was doing anyway.
So for T2 you could require 4 things needed to be done like "headshots", "distance shots", "attatchment kills" "spots", "time used weapon in matches for" "melee kills with weapon" etc etc and this would add more replayability to keep people trying out new stuff.
How often did you use a gun and instantly just use the same or similar set up for each gun (ext mags, bgm grip, green laser etc)? All my guns were pretty much very similar with little variety.
The paid for content should be "bonus" content not just "content that really should of been in the game to begin with" type deal.
The reason BF3/4/1 were so fun was because they had a good to near perfect combo of great gameplay and content to do far into the games lifespan.
I think I counted B4 having like 67+ more weapons than 2042, more variety means more fun, in 2042 I'm killed by Ak5c, VHX, SWS10 or PBX 9/10 times, there's over 40 weapons in 2042 but everyone seems to use just 3-4 all the time which does make the game boring when you die to the exact same gun everytime (again because those guns are just better than the others so maybe a balance issue?) When you play a match and everyones using the same guns, it takes away some of the fun for both parties, I don't mind dying to people with skill or even just people getting a little lucky, but its so boring watching the same guns kill you over again. Variety and balance add to the fun and replayability which longer people play the game more chance they will buy the "premium" stuff.
That's my two cents for what its worth.
I have just been playing BF 4
I don't mind skins when they make sense to the game. I understand why games like Cod and Fortnite do Marvel bundles and stuff, but realistically BF doesn't need that type of stuff. I'd be fine with BF having some bundles and crossovers with some actual military stuff while making it interesting, like unique skin designs that would be cool enough to make people want to buy them. As for having like Thor or Anime wifus running around, keep that the fuck out of Battlefield lmao.
One BIG thing to also have. Anti cheat. A good one. And community servers on launch. As an Asian player I will say this is the most important aspect. It doesn’t matter if the game is a 10/10, if it has terrible anti cheat. The game will die.
well designed maps with good infantry to vehicle balance. and gunplay should go back to bf3/4 type recoil
This comment section is full of those Reddit people you mentioned.
They're a hive mind
imagine if they added barracks bunnies
I agree with most but If you are so sure they don't give a fuck about the community opinion on skins, why will they care about other things, in this last years we watch this fumbles with loved franchises and ips really start to hurt the bottom line of massive publishers and studios. So if they will not care or listen, we can let it die. Other games will come and take their place, it will take some time but eventually someone else is gonna provide the battlefield experience.
I feel on my own.. i love battlefield 2042.. i dont care there's girls in the game.. i love the vehicles.. i hated getting killed by them initially but uou learn its the challenge to survive them and learn to take them out.. i use to hate snipers but learnt you gotta take cover n be a difficult target for them.. and also learn to take them out too. All i ever hear is people bagging battlefield.
I think its funny when a women character gets killed and it sounds like she is serving in tennis
I just want a playable effin game brooo
Skins DO affect us all!!! It used to be easy to see if an enemy was an assault, recon, support or engineer player. These skins have ruined this and yes it does affect the gameplay.. And it's not that people are against women or skins in a game. It's when it's done where it doesn't fit the game.
It should be Bad Company 3.
it's about that time .
Thank you!!! W vehicle take
Blame the BF1 no hud blah blah blah, at one point the on the battlefield subreddit, was people spamming videos or images of BF1 without the hud.
Right around the corner?
Each battlefield has their differences and it will be impossible to please everyone but they all have something in common that is fun for me. so I would argue that the most important thing is to have a functional game with a good net code no bugs and make a good first impression on release. I’m pretty sure that the rest will be fine, but it needs to be good and it needs to have content. if it sucks at lunch and makes another bad first impression the franchise is doomed. if they had nailed the concept of 2042 and if the execution was good, things would’ve been much better. It may not have been peoples favorite battlefield but at least it wouldn’t have become the meme it did.
Its hard to get just infantry gameplay now that MOH is dead. I never even want to be exposed to an apache wnd here I am getting farmed literally unable to kill this man because he hides in his spawn every 10 seconds. There are some genuine criticisms for the vehicles man
Things I want out of a BF game, or any game really.
Good Performance(Cuz I dont care how good it looks, if it runs like shit, im not sticking around, no im not gunna find enjoyment playing a twitch based FPS that runs at 11FPS)
Intuitive, smooth functioning UI
Good gameplay
Good gunplay
PVE Coop missions.
Graphics are.......somewhere on the list, but if im honest, id still be playing games from the early 2000s and late 90s if they still worked on my PC without tons of fiddling around. Graphics I dont care that much about.....just as long as they look aight.
Kit switching, or just bring back old BF2/3 kits......give us back med boxes and ammo boxes. The 2042 system was ASS with a capital Bullshit. 30s cooldowns before you could heal and get ammo again.....naaawwww, let me camp a box and get my shit back. it worked, dont fix it.
For me to buy the next BF they also need some kind of Original BF1942 mode where spawning is limited to flags and/or trucks.
I can't enjoy a game where shooting a person can have as little effect as them spawning right back in on a squadmate next to where they died. It makes lives less worth. It feels bad. It plays bad. It's TikTok gaming. *It also takes the piss out of any medics.
Until I stop consistently seeing pilots score 90-2... I dont give a rats ass of pilots defenses
Its cuz 99 percent of players aren't good enough to need to kit switch
woke players
Well said Enders 👍👍👌
enders i dont know if you'll see this comment but you know how dice is using a.i for helping the map design right? what if later on they can allow us (the players) the custom make maps? imagine if people make full on remakes of bf3, bf4 and bf5 maps. i don't know what do you think?
Is it even confirmed they are using that AI tool for BF maps?
@@EndersFPS i dont think necessarily they confirmed that they were making "maps" with it just that they were using a.i tools to help design the game during the dice investor meeting that they had a few weeks back.