I think this is also a valid info too: Bullpup rifles in BF3 and BF4 (like the FAMAS, F2K, Bulldog, L85A2 and the AUG) have higher ADS straffing speeds than non-bullpup weapons, making it better for closer range engagements; it also has better hipfire than most rifles too
Yeah I always thought that Battlefront and Battlefield 1 felt very similar. Dice probably cut and paste the movement lol. This was the one reason why I didn’t like BF1, the movement was too slow and basic for me personally. I was happy with BFV’s movement. I would like to see movement in the next Battlefield game to be somewhere between BF3, 4 and V. BF2042’s movement isn’t that bad either tbh.
I've been playing bf4 since 2018, still play on the remaining EU servers to this day despite owning bf2042. Every time I hop back onto 2042 to try give it another shot and when I play infi it just feels so heavy and weighted, like you have massive amounts of inertia completely unlike bf4 where you feel so light.
For me I think movement should blend BF 3, 4, and 1. V and 2042 try too much to turn battlefield into a movement shooter and it just becomes a 32v32 cod. I’m not saying the movement should be Milsim level, but it should be designed in a way that encourages team play rather than lone wolfing. Give me the map flow from BF1 operations with the older titles movement. For me my battlefield moments were the epic pushes and defenses amongst vehicle support, and not 1v20 clutches
Exactly. Just because i don't want parkour/ADHD movement in a game i shouldn't have to be forced to go play Squad. Battlefield had it nailed in BF3,4 and1
Bf1 movement >> no skill gap, no sweaty guys making weird movements, your soldier felt like he weighed more than 10kg without feeling like a milsim. good ol times, now everything feels like cod
@@EndersFPS It's a war game. If people have so much ADHD that they cant handle "normal" movement compared to a COD game without turning off the computer in boredom... Then they shouldnt play Battlefield
Sliding left and right is frustrating in Battlefield V-it's practically COD. When I want to play a realistic game, I choose Squad. If I’m after a fast, arcade-style experience, I go with COD. But when I want something in between, leaning more towards realism, it’s Battlefield that I prefer. That’s why so many people enjoy it. I don't particularly appreciate sliding in general, and if they do include it, it should be like in Battlefield 1, where sliding is only for taking cover. Keep up the good work :)
Funny how you say BF1 feels slow and boring, yet it is the most fun and chaotic BF ever. The movement is old school gaming, and actually REQUIRES the player to be good at aiming, using the appropriate class, and teamwork, as opposed to superhuman movement needed to flank the opponents. BF movement with the addition of crouch running and jump roll would be the ideal movement type for actual Battlefield fans
All FPS games benefit from you being good at aiming. BF1 being slow is not an opinion, it's a fact. The most fun? Subjective lol. The most chaotic? Maybe. Game has a lot of cheese. You've always needed the appropriate class, and you've always needed to flank in Battlefield. Teamwork doesn't really exist in Battlefield pub lobbies. Only in organized squad play or comp events
Been playing since battlefield 2… I enjoyed bf1 for a couple months and grew bored of it… I usually played battlefield games exclusively until the next one comes out… honestly bf1 is something different from the rest and not in a good way for me… I enjoyed bfV a lot more than 1. I think for some of the reasons explained in this video
Good to see someone who brings up movement. BF4 perfected movement! It just did everything right! It feels snappy without being supersonic. Combine this with the perfect gameplay and boom, the legendary BF4 was born. May BF4 live forever❤
For me battlefield 5 had the best movement just because of the sprint while crouched. I loved that in Red Orchestra 2 and was happy to see it in BF5. The thing with movement (like with so many other things like setting and stuff) is that there is no wrong way to do it. The battlefield games do have very different types of movement systems so there is one for almost everyone. It's just a matter of personal preference and not of right or wrong.
As a casual gamer, I don't notice a lot of this stuff. You make many good points and you clearly mean well for Battlefield. I hope your critiques make future Battlefield's better.
Battlefield 4 also has ADS movement speed differences. Bullpup weapons like f2000 have higher ADS walking speed than non bullpup weapons. If you dont press WASD as you land from a jump, you will slide, and you wont get movement penalty from chaining jumps this way. Jumping this way also lets you keep momentum from high speed, such as from movement glitches. You can shoot while jumping, but only after reaching the peak of you jump. There are some new glitches too. Glitches like rouzou have a decent amount of depth to them.
I was to say the same about the ADS movement speed. As well as the slide after jumping. However he might not mentioned it because that would go pretty much into the zouzou and he didn't mentioned those glitches on purpose. Or he just didn't knew that because he havn't played BF4 for a very looong time.
I think they should go for a modernized BF3 (and not just in regards to movement either). While BF4 is great and I still play it from time to time, I'd rather player skill be primarily dictated by aim, positioning and game sense - with less emphasis on fast and unpredictable movement. At least for a new release that's supposed to (hopefully) be a reboot and revival of the franchise. Obviously there should be a degree of a skill gap in movement, but I just don't want it to feel like those 24/7 Locker servers where it's constant air strafe swings around corners or players juking your bullets like crazy.
Terrific work!!! I’ve never had dialogue to inner work of movement before. I’ve noticed “some” of these things but not to the extent you laid them out. I’m looking forward to more content. And to playing the new battlefield. Keep it up.
In case of bfv, There must be a significant time delay between consequent slides. It feels very unnatural when people keep spamming it again and again. This ain't like cod to have a such a stupid thing. And when you slide, that should be in the straight line instead of hovering around like enders's demonstrated.
definitely one of the best videos you've put out in past months. Great content and unique really. I am sure a lot of people learned form this and maybe the devs will take notes.
I think that for the next game they shouldnt try to do realisitc movement, with a lot of inertia, sway and else. In my opinion (i might be biased cause i like bf4 a lot) they should definitely add a learning cruve to movement, so that if you spend time playing you can have more fun moving better than others and thus having a more in depth gameplay, but it cant be overpowered either. Some air strafing is fine just so you get that little movement speed boost, and they should add a few mechanics like repeated crouching. Globally DICE should aim to make the gameplay fun in the first place before the rest.
At some point people must understand that not everything needs to have a slide, or hyper sprinting. BF never had that and I find it weird how people - instead of playing games like COD or other fast paced games, they feel the need to change Battlefield into it as well
@@crunks2955 yeah i think they shouldnt go crazy adding mechanics like the tac sprint, its just something that doesnt add much to the game and is just annoying
Favorite movement and hit registration Definitelly Battlefield Hardline. And that comes from a dude with 12.700 hours in Bf4 and 9.950 hours in Bf3 and about 5k hours spread in all Bf after those two.
Bf1 atmosphere climbing and vaulting, also slide before it got gutted. Being able to lay down on your side and back in V, and the can’t climb animation reaching for walls that are too tall. Mix with bf4/nerfed rbd from bf1 and there’s your gunplay. Bf2042 climbing is pathetic
I remember in bf1 that you could just out move the lmg worms you find on certain maps using the slide, good times. (It was back when those worms were using the mg15 na suppressive, because the 1917 telescopic wasn't even out)
Solid video! There are BFV movement glitches and tricks you haven't included such as: - crouch jumping increases significantly the distance of the jump especially when peeking with strafing - crouch jumping timed well lets you chain jump without jumping penalty, forever whilist switching between ads and hipfire (tricky) - you can jump after slide - when you hit prone button while sprinting on a ledge, you will drop from the ledge, keeping the momentum with a broken prone animation while you can still shoot very accurately - you can bind vaulting and jumping to separate buttons and avoid the vault animation in many scenarios (kinda the same thing you mentioned about jumps through the windows)
Im a BF4 movement D-rider but BFV arguably has one of the best overall balanced movement in the whole genre. That being said i would love to see a little more advanced version of it
I played bf3 and bf4 competitively and i can confidently say, i never used the ads vault on bf3 i knew about it, but if anything it gave you a disadvantage in slowing you down... bf3 and 4 were all about movement and making the "average" movement of those games quicker, in pubs i just remember dudes in the chat even to this day i stream bf4 often if you hit a zuzu jump dudes think you're a cheater or something 🤣🤣🤣 meanwhile just manipulating yhe movement to my advantage
Watching more of your videos makes me think you are some sort of negen gamer who thinks every game needs complicated and in depth game mechanics to be fun. Ppl like simple stuff thats why bf1 is the most popular bf. And i hope that movement in new game is slow and without sliding, good gunplay imersion and maps is all i want
@@EndersFPS i do use them, i dont like them, how can you imerse yourself in a battlefield experience if there is everyone slidind around you like its apex, no battlefield had that it started with bf5 and now 2042 copying cod and fotnite
@@EndersFPS and i watched your gameplay, sliding jumping alll that yeah ur good, the point is gameplay like this isnt and shouldnt be battlefield my opinion
@@Thanos-sc8lk if you think sliding destroys immersion Then idk what to tell you other than games like Insurgency Sandstorm or Arma suits you better Battlefield was already immersive thx to the gameplay itself It doesn't need a realistic movement to be immersive. A skill gap is needed for it to be engaging and separating players from the pros and the noob Besides the movement itself is not even close to something like Apex or fortnite Even BF2042 and BFV play nothing like it Things like slides are just a standard for modern FPS
After reading the "EVERY" in your video title I was kinda letdown to find out that you didn't include BF2 and BFBC2 in the comparison. People really forget how clunky and clumsy BF2's movement was (dolphin diving anyone?!). BFBC2 changed a lot of that for the better and I think BFBC2 has paved the way for better movement in later BF games. But around this time people also started to complain that BF is more and more becoming like CoD. I think the evolution of movement really plays a big role in that. For my part, I think it's good that the movement has become more complex and dynamic.
BF4 competitive matches had movement that was utterly cracked, it's honestly shocking how quickly those matches were played. If anything Esport FPS games of today are watered down- and designed to give players the illusion of control, rather than real unrestricted movement. People talk as if today's movement in games is fast, but it couldn't be further from the truth. Today's "advanced" movement is just a simplified fancy version of what the pros of BF4 managed to do with movement tech a decade ago. The skill gap was massive back than.
I think the slide heavy nature of BF5 is irritating but slide needs to be more effective and useful than BF1. I think there is a lesson to BF1's popularity. You don't need to copy its movement and I assume the next game won't but the sound, music, and environment are top notch and that's why a lot of people enjoy it. Put whatever movement in the game you want but don't drop players into sterile, boring, idiotic maps. If 2042 had some of the legacy mechanics of BF3 and 4 (and gun selection) but had maps, sound, immersion like BF1 it would have been a huge hit and have way more players. Designing video games is difficult but all the features players want have already been done in previous games. Go back to basics and players that want gameplay depth/movement and players that want immersion, sound, environment can all be happy.
Enders you know that 90% of battlefield community is all about PTFO (they always complain about players not PTFO in yer streams youtube comments or reddit posts ) and you shoud of pointed out more why movement is so important to properly PTFO if you a pro or even a noob in any fps games that includes objective type game play like capturing the flag or planting m-com aka the bomb and there is always people who defending objective by holding a defensive angle and players who trying to peek that angle to perform the kill on defending player in game like battlefield one where movement was removed i know if i try to peek same skilled player i will die 9 times out of 10 and woud rather play off objective and get alot more kills that way to atleast try and be effective that way never the less very nice and informative video thank you
The irony here is that Enders is "PTFO'ing" infinitely more than these complainers. They don't see kills as an objective. You're arguing about "competitive" modes in a casual shooter as well. There are no obligations for players to do anything.
Battlefield V is probbaly my favourite movement system in any "boots on the ground" fps game. The crouch sprinting, sliding and proning movement, all felt very smooth and just felt right. I was really expecting Dice to build upon it and improve it Instead they totally removed in 2042 BO6 is the closest thing to BFV's movement but didn't feel as good.
19:57 its called ice skating rip jordy i learned that from him helped me a lot while playing comp😢 There is one more trick avaible in bf5 i dont know what is called tho but if you timed your crawl button while being on the edge you could kinda gain momentum like a speed boost but it mainly works in a gun fight not like to get faster to the objective lol
Enders, really great video about the movement mechanics in different Battlefield games. I like the movement in BF3 and 4. I also love some features in BFV. But don't want BF to turn into a slide/speed/jump parkour game. BF1 felt like it was catered to fit the casuals.
Does anybody know where this conceptualization of you jumping more effectively after a slide? Were drugs involved in this? Slide itself is not the issue if it's just used for peeking and going to cover but when it's used for traversal itself then that's a complete red line. After the slide you should lose all momentum and it should take time for you to stand up rather than cancelling the animation like a crackhead. And jump shots should only be stabilized near the peak of the jump otherwise it should be as inaccurate as hipfire in ADS.
Great vid!! Im agree with you. In the next tittle they should smash not only movement, but a lot of the good in older titles, thats what we the community want. Hope they listen and deliver
I think a potential reason for movement being so lackluster in BF1 is just how bad the guns are. If you have an inaccurate weapon with a tiny magazine, it gets way harder to shoot a slide peeking target
Enders someday I would have loved your expert opinion of what the heck was that slide I experienced in BFV just one time by a katana user. The vid is named "BFV Superslide"
@EndersFPS cool beans then because it's weird after playing battlefield 4 for so long then 1 then 5 then 2042 and recoil on guns are crazy or just lazers like old cod. Maybe it's just visual recoil I don't know.
If they cannot or will not learn/interact with the game's given/designed mechanics, they will incessantly whine and complain until EVERYONE in the game is limited to their level. BF1 is the most objective test case of this scenario.
I'll be honest. I still personally would take BF3 and 4 Movement any time of the day when we want to talk about the general movement styles. But there are specific movements from newer games that are pretty nice to have as well. I like the BF3 movement, since the movement feels more real to me. Which I prefer, since there's no hyper people flying around corners. But that's a me thing. Really interested to see what the new battlefield will come up with. But your explanation of people wanting better graphics and destruction, because even on a fairly mid-range PC I can barely get COD or 2042 to even run, let alone launch smoothly on the lowest settings. So I just hope I dont need to shell out money for a new card and CPU just to play the new BF.
people never really think too much about stuff and just blame the developers. even though bf5 and bf2042 were a disaster, there were things that were wonderful in them. this is the reason i'm scared of this community: the developers might listen to the voice of a mob and remove stuff that was actually good in order to appeal to the people and get their approval and money. the community doesn't think too much about what they are saying, and the developers only think about profits. what a nightmare to live in
The problem with Battlefield movement is that what used to be glitches became features in the last 2 games. If you want to play COD, go play COD, don't try to turn BF into COD. Battlefield lost it's identity and that's the biggest reason for it's failure, movement is just one aspect of it.
i think casual players do not like monkey movements, its fun for competetive and skilled players but Battlefields shouldnt be designed sweaty players in mind
Battlefield was always fast paste. Movement adds a skill gap to the game and people who understand it and use it correctly get rewarded for it. That‘s how simple it is. If casuals don‘t use it it‘s their fault🤷🏻♂️
Screw em I love Battlefield 1 but the slide is useless You can't do anything about it other than sliding into cover Casuals need to realize not every game is built for them A skill gap is needed
Let me know if you’d like to see these longer style videos on different topics :)
I would like to
Certainly!
Yessss please! Especially on these important topics
I love it. Really gives insight into the differences of the games. Can you do one like this but on gunplay? E.i. recoil, spread etc?
Yessir!
the Zuzu Muzu Vuzu and Ruzu part killed me 😂😂
Isn't there "snaking" as well.
@@griffin1366Rouzou, Vouzou, Vouzou, slither
And he was right. I used them and I have significant brain damage xD
They're real things brother
@@bigwalrosswalross3356i still use them with my tism bro 🤣
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Best video in quite a while. Would love to see more informative videos
I think this is also a valid info too: Bullpup rifles in BF3 and BF4 (like the FAMAS, F2K, Bulldog, L85A2 and the AUG) have higher ADS straffing speeds than non-bullpup weapons, making it better for closer range engagements; it also has better hipfire than most rifles too
A 30+ minute long, movement tutorial/history for battlefield games?!
Bro cooked, and I'm signing tf up!
4:35 WAIT WHAT?!
I remamber doing it sometimes, though it was a glitch since you can also vault and ADS in BF4 sometimes.
i think making battlefront corrupted dice forever
battlefield 4 to battlefield 1 movement feel completely different
Yeah I always thought that Battlefront and Battlefield 1 felt very similar. Dice probably cut and paste the movement lol. This was the one reason why I didn’t like BF1, the movement was too slow and basic for me personally. I was happy with BFV’s movement. I would like to see movement in the next Battlefield game to be somewhere between BF3, 4 and V. BF2042’s movement isn’t that bad either tbh.
@@Lecojoda BF1 movement is far more satisfying than 4. 4 was too sluggish and v was too twitchy
@@kirillholt2329 no
@@JCaesarMM96 yes and piss off
I've been playing bf4 since 2018, still play on the remaining EU servers to this day despite owning bf2042. Every time I hop back onto 2042 to try give it another shot and when I play infi it just feels so heavy and weighted, like you have massive amounts of inertia completely unlike bf4 where you feel so light.
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For me I think movement should blend BF 3, 4, and 1. V and 2042 try too much to turn battlefield into a movement shooter and it just becomes a 32v32 cod. I’m not saying the movement should be Milsim level, but it should be designed in a way that encourages team play rather than lone wolfing. Give me the map flow from BF1 operations with the older titles movement. For me my battlefield moments were the epic pushes and defenses amongst vehicle support, and not 1v20 clutches
Exactly. Just because i don't want parkour/ADHD movement in a game i shouldn't have to be forced to go play Squad. Battlefield had it nailed in BF3,4 and1
Animation of 3
Movement of 4
Parkour of 1
fully agreed, bfv was way too slidey, I haven't played 2042 (and never will) but BF1 felt most satisfying, followed by BF3, bf4 was too sluggish
@@murderousintents6474 omg fkng yes
@@Mattyice831 a mix of BF3 4 and BF1 will be the best for sure
I think the pacing and movement speed was perfect in BF3.
3 was amazing felt so free the movement and snappy
It's not too much, unlike 2042. BF3 for me is a staple when it comes to movement for me. Even if it's goofy at times
Bf1 movement >> no skill gap, no sweaty guys making weird movements, your soldier felt like he weighed more than 10kg without feeling like a milsim. good ol times, now everything feels like cod
Bro wants there to be no movement because he cant handle it 😭😭
@@EndersFPS is that what you understood from my comment? what was i expecting from a guy who likes moving like he's having a seizure 💀
@@EndersFPS It's a war game. If people have so much ADHD that they cant handle "normal" movement compared to a COD game without turning off the computer in boredom... Then they shouldnt play Battlefield
@@EndersFPS And you cant survive without having no movement 😢😢😢
Its so interesting to me that, honestly, from a graphics perspective, these old games hold up surprisingly well even todah
Sliding left and right is frustrating in Battlefield V-it's practically COD. When I want to play a realistic game, I choose Squad. If I’m after a fast, arcade-style experience, I go with COD. But when I want something in between, leaning more towards realism, it’s Battlefield that I prefer. That’s why so many people enjoy it. I don't particularly appreciate sliding in general, and if they do include it, it should be like in Battlefield 1, where sliding is only for taking cover. Keep up the good work :)
Funny how you say BF1 feels slow and boring, yet it is the most fun and chaotic BF ever. The movement is old school gaming, and actually REQUIRES the player to be good at aiming, using the appropriate class, and teamwork, as opposed to superhuman movement needed to flank the opponents. BF movement with the addition of crouch running and jump roll would be the ideal movement type for actual Battlefield fans
All FPS games benefit from you being good at aiming. BF1 being slow is not an opinion, it's a fact. The most fun? Subjective lol. The most chaotic? Maybe. Game has a lot of cheese. You've always needed the appropriate class, and you've always needed to flank in Battlefield. Teamwork doesn't really exist in Battlefield pub lobbies. Only in organized squad play or comp events
Been playing since battlefield 2… I enjoyed bf1 for a couple months and grew bored of it… I usually played battlefield games exclusively until the next one comes out… honestly bf1 is something different from the rest and not in a good way for me… I enjoyed bfV a lot more than 1. I think for some of the reasons explained in this video
Good to see someone who brings up movement. BF4 perfected movement! It just did everything right! It feels snappy without being supersonic. Combine this with the perfect gameplay and boom, the legendary BF4 was born. May BF4 live forever❤
BF4 player movement was best anything else is garbage
tbh for the new battlefield, BFV's movement with a (slightly) shorter slide would be perfect; or just bf4 movement either or
Bfv's movement was personally my favorite.
For me battlefield 5 had the best movement just because of the sprint while crouched. I loved that in Red Orchestra 2 and was happy to see it in BF5.
The thing with movement (like with so many other things like setting and stuff) is that there is no wrong way to do it. The battlefield games do have very different types of movement systems so there is one for almost everyone. It's just a matter of personal preference and not of right or wrong.
As a casual gamer, I don't notice a lot of this stuff. You make many good points and you clearly mean well for Battlefield. I hope your critiques make future Battlefield's better.
Youre rly out here explaining 10+ year old mechanics and battlefield players still be complaining about it 😭
Battlefield 4 also has ADS movement speed differences. Bullpup weapons like f2000 have higher ADS walking speed than non bullpup weapons.
If you dont press WASD as you land from a jump, you will slide, and you wont get movement penalty from chaining jumps this way. Jumping this way also lets you keep momentum from high speed, such as from movement glitches.
You can shoot while jumping, but only after reaching the peak of you jump.
There are some new glitches too. Glitches like rouzou have a decent amount of depth to them.
Turn that ads glitch off, bro lol.
I was to say the same about the ADS movement speed. As well as the slide after jumping. However he might not mentioned it because that would go pretty much into the zouzou and he didn't mentioned those glitches on purpose. Or he just didn't knew that because he havn't played BF4 for a very looong time.
@@combat-greyhound565 The slide after jumping doesnt have to be a zouzou but yea
@@aksu02 yeah ik, but the small step more going directly into ads mid air triggers the zouzou if I remember correctly
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Ridiculous to be able to move that fast.
Play Arma
@@EndersFPS bRUH. There should be something inbetween COD and milsim games...
I think they should go for a modernized BF3 (and not just in regards to movement either). While BF4 is great and I still play it from time to time, I'd rather player skill be primarily dictated by aim, positioning and game sense - with less emphasis on fast and unpredictable movement. At least for a new release that's supposed to (hopefully) be a reboot and revival of the franchise. Obviously there should be a degree of a skill gap in movement, but I just don't want it to feel like those 24/7 Locker servers where it's constant air strafe swings around corners or players juking your bullets like crazy.
Terrific work!!! I’ve never had dialogue to inner work of movement before. I’ve noticed “some” of these things but not to the extent you laid them out. I’m looking forward to more content. And to playing the new battlefield. Keep it up.
@4:31 ¿¡ ADS vault !? Zero idea, that was my 1st FPS , too
In case of bfv, There must be a significant time delay between consequent slides. It feels very unnatural when people keep spamming it again and again. This ain't like cod to have a such a stupid thing. And when you slide, that should be in the straight line instead of hovering around like enders's demonstrated.
there is a delay
@@RoiDeCoeurs How much?
Yeah there needs to be like a 3 second delay
@@tacobandit1926 correct
that's why it's called slidefield
Should have added in the perspective of the other player for some of these movements
I understood from your words brother that the battlefield 4-3 is the best from my point of view of understanding your words
Thank you for showing the manual leaning, BFV have the best movement for sure
It would have been best if there was jump air strafing and no movement stoppage
I really appreciate the effort going back to some BF games to record this video, Good Job Enders
The most Battlefield movement feature is getting stuck on random objects, while getting shot 🤣
Thank you mister Enders for effort from a distant Serbia
Imo bf3 movement with a slide would be perfect
Or honestly 2042 with no tac sprint would be nice too
definitely one of the best videos you've put out in past months. Great content and unique really. I am sure a lot of people learned form this and maybe the devs will take notes.
I think that for the next game they shouldnt try to do realisitc movement, with a lot of inertia, sway and else. In my opinion (i might be biased cause i like bf4 a lot) they should definitely add a learning cruve to movement, so that if you spend time playing you can have more fun moving better than others and thus having a more in depth gameplay, but it cant be overpowered either. Some air strafing is fine just so you get that little movement speed boost, and they should add a few mechanics like repeated crouching. Globally DICE should aim to make the gameplay fun in the first place before the rest.
At some point people must understand that not everything needs to have a slide, or hyper sprinting. BF never had that and I find it weird how people - instead of playing games like COD or other fast paced games, they feel the need to change Battlefield into it as well
@@crunks2955 yeah i think they shouldnt go crazy adding mechanics like the tac sprint, its just something that doesnt add much to the game and is just annoying
Favorite movement and hit registration Definitelly Battlefield Hardline. And that comes from a dude with 12.700 hours in Bf4 and 9.950 hours in Bf3 and about 5k hours spread in all Bf after those two.
30k hours, go outside man.
@@griffin1366 Im 46 and the games are old too so the hours stack up easy
@@kostistsiutras4373 So over 13 years, that's still like 8.3 hours a day..
Bf1 atmosphere climbing and vaulting, also slide before it got gutted. Being able to lay down on your side and back in V, and the can’t climb animation reaching for walls that are too tall. Mix with bf4/nerfed rbd from bf1 and there’s your gunplay. Bf2042 climbing is pathetic
21:15 you could in bf3, you could also *shoot while vaulting*
You can run faster in BF3 when you jump but not in BF4 and in BF Hardline you run faster with your secondary weapon
Bfv movement >>>
Real tbh
nah
@@ELECTRICSCARS why not
BF5 is trash and so is the soldier speed and movement. Most pc players don’t recognize how garbage it is because they play on 120 fov
I remember in bf1 that you could just out move the lmg worms you find on certain maps using the slide, good times.
(It was back when those worms were using the mg15 na suppressive, because the 1917 telescopic wasn't even out)
Solid video! There are BFV movement glitches and tricks you haven't included such as:
- crouch jumping increases significantly the distance of the jump especially when peeking with strafing
- crouch jumping timed well lets you chain jump without jumping penalty, forever whilist switching between ads and hipfire (tricky)
- you can jump after slide
- when you hit prone button while sprinting on a ledge, you will drop from the ledge, keeping the momentum with a broken prone animation while you can still shoot very accurately
- you can bind vaulting and jumping to separate buttons and avoid the vault animation in many scenarios (kinda the same thing you mentioned about jumps through the windows)
Im a BF4 movement D-rider but BFV arguably has one of the best overall balanced movement in the whole genre.
That being said i would love to see a little more advanced version of it
I would really like to see similar kind of Video about the gunplay :)
Damn dude, just gonna jump over Hardline like that
Watch the devs make the game like BF1 but without the slide, that'd be funny I think
That will be millions times better than what we got with 2042 and BF V
This video inspired me to have a movement.
The slide chain feed down hallway was nasty work
I played bf3 and bf4 competitively and i can confidently say, i never used the ads vault on bf3 i knew about it, but if anything it gave you a disadvantage in slowing you down... bf3 and 4 were all about movement and making the "average" movement of those games quicker, in pubs i just remember dudes in the chat even to this day i stream bf4 often if you hit a zuzu jump dudes think you're a cheater or something 🤣🤣🤣 meanwhile just manipulating yhe movement to my advantage
Watching more of your videos makes me think you are some sort of negen gamer who thinks every game needs complicated and in depth game mechanics to be fun. Ppl like simple stuff thats why bf1 is the most popular bf. And i hope that movement in new game is slow and without sliding, good gunplay imersion and maps is all i want
Just say you don’t use any mechanics so you’re ok with there being none lol
@@EndersFPS i do use them, i dont like them, how can you imerse yourself in a battlefield experience if there is everyone slidind around you like its apex, no battlefield had that it started with bf5 and now 2042 copying cod and fotnite
@@EndersFPS and i watched your gameplay, sliding jumping alll that yeah ur good, the point is gameplay like this isnt and shouldnt be battlefield my opinion
@@Thanos-sc8lk if you think sliding destroys immersion
Then idk what to tell you other than games like Insurgency Sandstorm or Arma suits you better
Battlefield was already immersive thx to the gameplay itself
It doesn't need a realistic movement to be immersive.
A skill gap is needed for it to be engaging and separating players from the pros and the noob
Besides the movement itself is not even close to something like Apex or fortnite
Even BF2042 and BFV play nothing like it
Things like slides are just a standard for modern FPS
I agree Enders is just mad cause he is bad without using movement and he wants to turn BF into a Cod game
After reading the "EVERY" in your video title I was kinda letdown to find out that you didn't include BF2 and BFBC2 in the comparison. People really forget how clunky and clumsy BF2's movement was (dolphin diving anyone?!). BFBC2 changed a lot of that for the better and I think BFBC2 has paved the way for better movement in later BF games. But around this time people also started to complain that BF is more and more becoming like CoD. I think the evolution of movement really plays a big role in that. For my part, I think it's good that the movement has become more complex and dynamic.
When you said you've played battle field for a long time... Boy I played battlefield 1942 and the "dlc" dessert storm
Very informative, thank you.
BF4 competitive matches had movement that was utterly cracked, it's honestly shocking how quickly those matches were played. If anything Esport FPS games of today are watered down- and designed to give players the illusion of control, rather than real unrestricted movement.
People talk as if today's movement in games is fast, but it couldn't be further from the truth.
Today's "advanced" movement is just a simplified fancy version of what the pros of BF4 managed to do with movement tech a decade ago.
The skill gap was massive back than.
Currently playing bfv and the movement should be more so that and some stiff bf3 bf4 aspects
Bf1 has a great climb height
I think the slide heavy nature of BF5 is irritating but slide needs to be more effective and useful than BF1. I think there is a lesson to BF1's popularity. You don't need to copy its movement and I assume the next game won't but the sound, music, and environment are top notch and that's why a lot of people enjoy it. Put whatever movement in the game you want but don't drop players into sterile, boring, idiotic maps.
If 2042 had some of the legacy mechanics of BF3 and 4 (and gun selection) but had maps, sound, immersion like BF1 it would have been a huge hit and have way more players. Designing video games is difficult but all the features players want have already been done in previous games. Go back to basics and players that want gameplay depth/movement and players that want immersion, sound, environment can all be happy.
Enders you know that 90% of battlefield community is all about PTFO (they always complain about players not PTFO in yer streams youtube comments or reddit posts ) and you shoud of pointed out more why movement is so important to properly PTFO if you a pro or even a noob in any fps games that includes objective type game play like capturing the flag or planting m-com aka the bomb and there is always people who defending objective by holding a defensive angle and players who trying to peek that angle to perform the kill on defending player in game like battlefield one where movement was removed i know if i try to peek same skilled player i will die 9 times out of 10 and woud rather play off objective and get alot more kills that way to atleast try and be effective that way never the less very nice and informative video thank you
The irony here is that Enders is "PTFO'ing" infinitely more than these complainers. They don't see kills as an objective.
You're arguing about "competitive" modes in a casual shooter as well. There are no obligations for players to do anything.
@@griffin1366 Enders rq almost every single game he cant win btw 😁.
THIS…is a good video, shoutout doug demuro
One thing to mention is that regarding gunfight in Bf V crouching really stabilises recoil, especially on LMGs. Great video, Enders.
"The more you spam the better player you are" mentality.
these type of videos are pure gem.
Battlefield V is probbaly my favourite movement system in any "boots on the ground" fps game.
The crouch sprinting, sliding and proning movement, all felt very smooth and just felt right.
I was really expecting Dice to build upon it and improve it
Instead they totally removed in 2042
BO6 is the closest thing to BFV's movement but didn't feel as good.
Woah a half hour long video please do more of these!
19:57 its called ice skating rip jordy i learned that from him helped me a lot while playing comp😢
There is one more trick avaible in bf5 i dont know what is called tho but if you timed your crawl button while being on the edge you could kinda gain momentum like a speed boost but it mainly works in a gun fight not like to get faster to the objective lol
This was really good actually. Nice demonstrations Enders!
BF2(PC) had jump shooting but they nerfed it about halfway through the game's life.
bf5 movement underrated
Man's giving out free lessons
I love zouzou on battlefield 4. I know it is broken but it was really fun.
21:20 If I'm not mistaken I think you can also do it in Battlefield 3 (or maybe you can only zoom but not shoot while jumping)
Enders, really great video about the movement mechanics in different Battlefield games. I like the movement in BF3 and 4. I also love some features in BFV. But don't want BF to turn into a slide/speed/jump parkour game. BF1 felt like it was catered to fit the casuals.
Does anybody know where this conceptualization of you jumping more effectively after a slide? Were drugs involved in this?
Slide itself is not the issue if it's just used for peeking and going to cover but when it's used for traversal itself then that's a complete red line. After the slide you should lose all momentum and it should take time for you to stand up rather than cancelling the animation like a crackhead.
And jump shots should only be stabilized near the peak of the jump otherwise it should be as inaccurate as hipfire in ADS.
Great vid!! Im agree with you. In the next tittle they should smash not only movement, but a lot of the good in older titles, thats what we the community want. Hope they listen and deliver
I think a potential reason for movement being so lackluster in BF1 is just how bad the guns are. If you have an inaccurate weapon with a tiny magazine, it gets way harder to shoot a slide peeking target
A solid basic movement puts everyone on the same page, rather than the fast cod like movement.
you dont want to be forced on the same page as everyone else
Great Doug demuro reference
Battlefield 4 had manual leaning
BF1 has my preferred movement. I prefer the simplicity. If I wanted skill based movement I would play CS or Quake.
Exactly. People should stop forcing BF to change
this is an awesome video - putting opinions aside, its super useful to see these differences clearly. dope shit!
i like battlefield 3 movement the best
Send this video to DICE - there is stuff to learn in it!
very important video, thank you!
bf5 movement + no 3d spotting = most underrated battlefield game
@@jackcasebolt1985 bf5 movement + no 3d spotting = apex legends
BFV didn't really have 3d spotting
Atleast not to the same extent as the other games
You still need to pay attention to the game rather than the map
Enders someday I would have loved your expert opinion of what the heck was that slide I experienced in BFV just one time by a katana user. The vid is named "BFV Superslide"
2042 Plastic
V okish
1 makes you feel like walking and sprinting matter
BFV's movement system is the best. As for gunplay, it's BF4 for me.
are u going to compare each battlefield gunplay?
Probably after this
@EndersFPS cool beans then because it's weird after playing battlefield 4 for so long then 1 then 5 then 2042 and recoil on guns are crazy or just lazers like old cod. Maybe it's just visual recoil I don't know.
If they cannot or will not learn/interact with the game's given/designed mechanics, they will incessantly whine and complain until EVERYONE in the game is limited to their level. BF1 is the most objective test case of this scenario.
You forgot bf modern combat, bad company 1and 2, and bf hardline.
I don't dislike bf2042 movements, let's say I'd like something between bfV and bf2042. The idea of spamming=losing momentum isn't wrong at all.
I'll be honest. I still personally would take BF3 and 4 Movement any time of the day when we want to talk about the general movement styles.
But there are specific movements from newer games that are pretty nice to have as well.
I like the BF3 movement, since the movement feels more real to me. Which I prefer, since there's no hyper people flying around corners. But that's a me thing.
Really interested to see what the new battlefield will come up with.
But your explanation of people wanting better graphics and destruction, because even on a fairly mid-range PC I can barely get COD or 2042 to even run, let alone launch smoothly on the lowest settings. So I just hope I dont need to shell out money for a new card and CPU just to play the new BF.
BF4 had the craziest altering movement lol nice video ❤😊
Can you do the same type of video about recoil? Thank you
people never really think too much about stuff and just blame the developers. even though bf5 and bf2042 were a disaster, there were things that were wonderful in them. this is the reason i'm scared of this community: the developers might listen to the voice of a mob and remove stuff that was actually good in order to appeal to the people and get their approval and money. the community doesn't think too much about what they are saying, and the developers only think about profits. what a nightmare to live in
The problem with Battlefield movement is that what used to be glitches became features in the last 2 games. If you want to play COD, go play COD, don't try to turn BF into COD.
Battlefield lost it's identity and that's the biggest reason for it's failure, movement is just one aspect of it.
i think casual players do not like monkey movements, its fun for competetive and skilled players but Battlefields shouldnt be designed sweaty players in mind
Sounds like they prefer milsim games.
Battlefield was always fast paste. Movement adds a skill gap to the game and people who understand it and use it correctly get rewarded for it. That‘s how simple it is. If casuals don‘t use it it‘s their fault🤷🏻♂️
@@griffin1366 if you think bf3 is milsim :d
Screw em
I love Battlefield 1 but the slide is useless
You can't do anything about it other than sliding into cover
Casuals need to realize not every game is built for them
A skill gap is needed
@@BlitzBestatter "fast paced bfs":
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