Renaultsport Megane 250 v Ford Focus RS by autocar.co.uk

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

Комментарии • 292

  • @den_525
    @den_525 10 лет назад +49

    Weird review... he keeps saying the Focus is faster... but he was keeping up with it, and needed to brake not to hit it... until the last 30 seconds of the video...

  • @opsyhte9592
    @opsyhte9592 6 лет назад +18

    So the 200hp na clio can keep up with the focus but not the 250hp turbo megane ? Please ...

  • @DreamCarGarage1
    @DreamCarGarage1 8 лет назад +16

    ....not as fast as the Ford? The RS didn't look like it was getting away at all.

    • @irishRocker1
      @irishRocker1 8 лет назад +1

      they're filming a review. If the ford took off, that wouldn't give them very good footage for the video would it? :P They purposely kept them both close for the video, but then you see at the end of the video, to demonstrate that the focus was faster, it then took off and left megane for dead.

    • @irishRocker1
      @irishRocker1 8 лет назад

      they're filming a review. If the ford took off, that wouldn't give them very good footage for the video would it? :P They purposely kept them both close for the video, but then you see at the end of the video, to demonstrate that the focus was faster, it then took off and left megane for dead.

  • @soundseeker63
    @soundseeker63 14 лет назад +3

    They did a test of the clio 200 v the focus RS at milbrook, and the clio kept up with it, so I find it hard to believe that the megane 250 wouldn't.

  • @AlternativeUses
    @AlternativeUses 15 лет назад

    autocar is hands down the best automotive sourse at combining footage, expertise, information, and entertainment in a review.

  • @callumleishman6749
    @callumleishman6749 8 лет назад +10

    If you match the meganes power (stage 1 remap 296hp) to the focus it's a completely different story.

    • @cutdepiefails6596
      @cutdepiefails6596 5 лет назад +2

      That's on real world where budget is the only limitation and cars are compared power vs power. But the anyone could argue that a 'stg 1' focus rs would kill an stg 1 megane rs.

  • @koreannow
    @koreannow 11 лет назад +6

    at 43 seconds when the focus is firing away from you its actually parked up in the background.

  • @After.Gravity
    @After.Gravity 13 лет назад

    Compare two cars with a big difference in horsepower!
    It is understandable that the focus is faster.
    But it is better?
    What time is done in the nurburgring?

  • @danny200878
    @danny200878 14 лет назад +2

    I picked up my Megane 250 Cup on Friday. It's amazing! I've done 400 miles in 2 days. Another 200 miles to go before I can boot it!

  • @garenson
    @garenson 13 лет назад +1

    @StefanTetteroo I drive a RS and in the beginning I thought the beep to be nonsense too, but because it revs up really fast and just straight up into the rev-limiter in lower gears (1,2,3) without really giving you any indication that it soon reaches the rev-limit (decreasing accelaration etc.), the beep actually does make sense.

  • @jarrus464
    @jarrus464 13 лет назад

    @ixianja You're half right, over there it was called an s16 but in the UK it was badged as a GTi the 306 was badged as both S16 155 bhp and 5 gears Gti-6 167 bhp and 6 gears.

  • @derbigpr500
    @derbigpr500 14 лет назад +2

    And also, megane is infinitely more luxurious inside and has a very high quality feel inside , unlike focus (and old megane). Megane is just a better car. I drive a focus for 3 years now, and every time i sat inside the megane, its just such a nice place to be. Its feels nice and compact. Seats are awesome, even the basic ones.

  • @sspope
    @sspope 15 лет назад

    Depends. Camaro was designed and engineered in Australia.

  • @yaroukh
    @yaroukh 15 лет назад +1

    1) utter respect to Renault - the new Megane coupe is just gorgeous and now we also know it is very good... (needless to say I would take Focus in a heartbeat over Megane)
    2) it is good when you hear a reviewer saying his opinion in a clear way, without lots of b/s around
    AUTOCAR rocks!

  • @DoggysStyle
    @DoggysStyle 15 лет назад

    Now this is what a review should be like

  • @MrAndersie91
    @MrAndersie91 10 лет назад +1

    I always wonder when they do these tests,
    Do they go into the RenaultSport Monitor and turn the Engine Mapping to Extreme Mode..

  • @PUREAAMERICAN
    @PUREAAMERICAN 13 лет назад

    Wish we had either of these here in the States.

  • @dzonibravo7867
    @dzonibravo7867 11 лет назад +9

    This guy is in the wrong business.Go sell some stuff, cars are not for you...

  • @bele77
    @bele77 15 лет назад

    you are right. you have to know that r26 is totally stripped car made for the cup, while the FRS isn't and it can be normally used even for a family car. i do agree that FRS for the price, it doesn't have a real competator.

  • @johnjackson12
    @johnjackson12 15 лет назад

    im guessing its the gear change indicator, all the rs models have them altho not with the beep noise. Could possibly be the limiter?

  • @bele77
    @bele77 15 лет назад

    @akumadriver quite opposite. i think that since the clio video they are trying to show that focus rs isn't so good afterall. the same thing is their scirocco vs. focus rs video. check it out and you will see.

  • @kartkidchun
    @kartkidchun 15 лет назад

    Forgive me Sutters but weren't you close to overtaking the Focus on several occasions there?
    I think I would have the Megane. Seen the interior for it and I think it's a pretty good looking machine overall (maybe the rims on this car are exempt)! The Megane probably is the best to own everyday mind. Less power = less unnecesary power. A better ride. I know a lot of potholes where I live including infamous John that would cause that Focus trouble.

  • @LeeFinneyZ9
    @LeeFinneyZ9 14 лет назад

    French car builders have made the best hot hatches for years now, they certainly know how to develop a great chassis.
    Usually flimsy build tho, but this might have improved over time.
    Focus rs can be fun just listening to that 5 pot thrum !!!

  • @hondacar
    @hondacar 13 лет назад

    @Mantua64
    How about if the Focus was chipped as well?Various parts of the Focus RS have been strengthened to cope with the hp and torque.A re-flashed RS Focus would be able to take a lot more power and torque than the RS Megane.
    The Focus handles well enough and is faster in every respect in real world driving.
    So what if the Megane on certain tracks,maybe a couple of tenths quicker than the RS Focus?
    .

  • @SoferAmator
    @SoferAmator 15 лет назад

    @bmwe92m it indicates the optimal moment for changing gear

  • @bele77
    @bele77 14 лет назад

    @Blackbold1970 you forgot to mension that it wasn't a rs megane but cup edition, whigh is totally stripped down. it doesn't have even a real windows, it has plexy glass. it weights more than 200 kilos less than the rs. strip FRS and then you will see the real results

  • @b3n410
    @b3n410 13 лет назад

    @jonnykemp11285 wasn t the 250 superchiped ? and the megane is more of a head turner...well you don t see them everyday in australia

  • @hunghuge12
    @hunghuge12 14 лет назад

    What's that annoying beep? Is that to tell you it's in the redline?

  • @launchini100
    @launchini100 13 лет назад

    @Mantua64 For example : Nurburgring track time: Focus RS= 8:26 min Megane RS= 8:29 min

  • @AG3333333
    @AG3333333 13 лет назад

    @poktehmat, the Megane 250 and the new 265 has this warning beep when you reach the rev-limiter.

  • @guygittins
    @guygittins 15 лет назад

    WHERE THE HELL IS THAT ROAD PLEASE STEVE??!!! I cant quite make out the sign at the end...

  • @argentum001
    @argentum001 15 лет назад

    Really? Which standard Ford exactly is overall better than Renault (engine, comfort, material quality)?

  • @passiondrivingDE
    @passiondrivingDE 13 лет назад

    @mattsgoneskatin you cannot get 350php from a chiptuning for the megane. 300 yes, maybe a bit more, but not 350.

  • @derbigpr500
    @derbigpr500 14 лет назад

    Whats there to think about. Even the old Megane RS is more than 30 seconds faster around Nurbrugring than any other hot hatch (including S3 and Golf R32 with 4wd).

  • @janes171
    @janes171 10 лет назад

    missing headlightwasher cover on focus RS.....

  • @bradstenton
    @bradstenton 15 лет назад

    this is correct, although i dont think either pushed at all. The focus he says is faster than the renault, obviously, but im a bit bored of renaults chasing the ford now, just do it the other way round to prove the focus worth please. Both cracking looking cars though

  • @MadManDrivinHere
    @MadManDrivinHere 15 лет назад

    hmm... both cars I can't get in the US... and a road I'll never find around me too. I'd take the Focus for the extra power... mid corner grip is just some new tires away... maybe different sway bars... but the ass end on the RS needs some help. the front looks great though.

  • @quantummechanic90
    @quantummechanic90 15 лет назад

    I've got to own a Renault before I die. Either one of these Renaultsport Meganes, or a 5 Turbo would be my most preferred.

  • @StefanTetteroo
    @StefanTetteroo 13 лет назад

    @poktehmat RS-models have a beep for people who don't know when to change up a gear.

  • @seauryakumar
    @seauryakumar 14 лет назад

    Focus RS isn't it discontinued now...

  • @NeilMagill
    @NeilMagill 12 лет назад

    @poktehmat shift up / rev limiter?

  • @KWASHIC
    @KWASHIC 14 лет назад

    its not always about speed.... while these cars a reperformance cars, Ford Focus is based on a family hatch with proper head room and normal road manners. Its the better balance between letting mum use it during the week (if she doesnt mind the looks) and taking it for a spin at the track on weekends! As for the renault...you better leave it at the pit garage during the week.

  • @garenson
    @garenson 13 лет назад

    @hultii If you watch the video closely the Megane matches the RS about 4 min of the 4:27 min of the video. Only when he doesn't look on the road anymore and talks directly into the camera the RS (naturally) gains that lead from the end... So actually in my opinion the Megane clearly won, because the 55hp stronger car could not get any substantial lead as long as both drivers drove concentrated.

  • @danny200878
    @danny200878 14 лет назад

    5 seconds? Not a chance. The front wheel drive focus would struggle to put the power down. It's a struggle to control the torque steer of the 300 horses it has now! I test drove one.

  • @danny200878
    @danny200878 15 лет назад

    I went to Renault and Ford dealerships today. The Renault is £21,000, the Focus £27,000. With a £3000 deposit and a final ballon payment at the end, over 36 months, the Megane was £367.24, the Focus was £590!!! Renault offer 5.6% APR, Ford 10.3%. That was including £2000 of extras on the Renault including the Recaros. The Focus isn't worth over £200 a month more…

  • @mikes1471
    @mikes1471 15 лет назад

    Im a Clio sport owner and liked how the R26R whooped the Focus RS on Top Gear, so to see the car they're replacing it with is a whole 50bhp less than the R26R seems like a bit of a white flag from Renault - "We're still going to make a decent Renault Sport but we cant be bothered competing with the Focus anymore" kind of attitude. I like the new shape Megane and was looking forward to the Sport but if I had to choose I'd buy the Focus, its more raw and everything the megane should have been

  • @launchini100
    @launchini100 15 лет назад

    What are you talking about? Megane RS is not a F1 car , like focus RS is not the WRC. Again , sorry , the full equiped focus RS is faster than the full equiped megane RS

  • @bonfooker
    @bonfooker 15 лет назад

    yeah you right about Renault
    they totally change the look of the car
    i really like the new design really
    its fantastic to look at rather than the focus

  • @SammyJ21
    @SammyJ21 15 лет назад

    So really what they are saying is... The Clio Cup they test drove that STAYED with the RS is better than the more powerful and refined upgrade?! The Megane stayed with the Focus until the end, and looked like it was gonna pass at times. Was this a real race? I guess we'll see when it goes to the Top Gear test track!!!

  • @ablair37
    @ablair37 13 лет назад

    @jarrus464 your forgetting renult sport is british

  • @scoot24925
    @scoot24925 14 лет назад

    @Genius83 we should wait before the new astra vxr...i dont think will be that good but still it might be worth...i own a vw golf gti mk5 and i think my next car will be this megane...i like very much hot hatches too :)

  • @danny200878
    @danny200878 14 лет назад

    Actually the Megane is lighter and Autocar tested it as being quicker to 100mph than the Focus RS a week later in their magazine. AND it handles better....

  • @ChuckyBaby13
    @ChuckyBaby13 14 лет назад

    @TheKipinator it tells you to change gears.

  • @TheJusticeCross
    @TheJusticeCross 10 лет назад +1

    The Renault Mégane wasn't at its finest evolution (which is out now in 2014), and it doesn't look very old, whereas the Focus looks old and the new is only available in ST for the moment, and looks strange to me.

  • @Red_Bearded_Dad
    @Red_Bearded_Dad 15 лет назад

    I'm a "yank" and I completely agree with you! I WISH that our cars were as good as yours (EU). We could do it, but there are too many idiots willing to pay for "power" instead of handling here. I had a second gen RX-7 that only had about 160 hp. A Camaro Z28 would destroy it in acceleration but the RX-7 could EASILY destroy it on a curvy back-road. Give me handling over power any day. ALL American's don't believe power is everything!

  • @macaddict3032
    @macaddict3032 13 лет назад

    I knew all the way through the video that the driver in the Focus was toying with the Relault

  • @SuperBenji18
    @SuperBenji18 15 лет назад

    My mate has a R26r and he said it definately takes the edge of the performance with a passenger in the car. Just saying :)

  • @ChevyJackJasonG
    @ChevyJackJasonG 14 лет назад

    @reecekym24
    may I ask you if you´ve ever had the chance to sit in each of the cars? Only sitting, not driving (I don´t expect that much). Because to me it seems, that you´re just talking.. WITHOUT ANY experience. Sorry

  • @Arkos39
    @Arkos39 11 лет назад +3

    A english guy, testing a french car is not very credible...

  • @johnjackson12
    @johnjackson12 15 лет назад

    Not strictly true...
    Watch the top gear megane R26R against it, in a straight line drag race the megane pulls away and holds it off to 110mph, not bad considering its almost 80bhp down.
    I still think the focus is the best hot hatch around tho overall

  • @skny
    @skny 15 лет назад

    cant wait to see the megane on the "ring" funny how a 230 bhp R26.R beats the Focus RS on the RING and a more powerful megane 250bhp is reviewed to be worse than the focus RS? I dont think the Renault would launch a car that is outperformed by its predecessor, so my choice would be the megane 250, Cup suspension and leather recaros a must! nice vid!

  • @gmracing15
    @gmracing15 14 лет назад

    ok NOW YOUR LOOKING FOR EXCUSES because your wrong, but answer this, if renault was so good at developing their own engine why was their logo not dominatly displayed on any car with their motor?.........( their engine logo was no bigger then fords when they where in f1) don't you think thats something to be proud off!

  • @bradstenton
    @bradstenton 15 лет назад

    i must disagree, put the focus behind and it will be the same although if the road had a little straight the focus would be straight by. These videos are all of the renaults chasing, its easier to do that

  • @ChevyJackJasonG
    @ChevyJackJasonG 14 лет назад +1

    @reecekym24
    without looking for a verbal fight, but let me tell you this in peace:
    I own a Renault Megane RS. A guy who lives in the same village like me has the Focus RS in white. We have a very long straight street that leads to the next village. Exactly 2kilometers
    I don´t claim that I can overtake him. But I´m 5 meters behind him through the whole street. I think the Focus RS is amazingly beautiful and brutal. But don´t tell me that the Renault can´t keep up - especially interior quality!

  • @Spanishkidpr
    @Spanishkidpr 15 лет назад

    the focus can easily past but the road is kinda small and they are high up and I wouldnt want to risk falling of the side of the mountain either

  • @87MattyH
    @87MattyH 13 лет назад

    @jarrus464 Depends what track you go to - the MeganeSport is probably more nimble - but the RS on a faster track will destroy it. You can tweak the RS for £400 to give it 350bhp - you cant compare "tweaked with standard" though as you propose.

  • @RUMEMPEROR
    @RUMEMPEROR 15 лет назад

    wtf is up with the rims on the renault?

  • @frankooo805
    @frankooo805 10 лет назад +5

    The 265 trophy should be pitted against the Focus RS, the 250 should be matched against the Focus ST. Not Fair.

    • @frankooo805
      @frankooo805 10 лет назад +2

      lloyd dixon Yes but they matched the top of the line Focus against the lower version of the Megane. And there is a difference between the 250 and the 265 irelevant of how big the difference is, the 265 was the fastest FWD car ever around the nurburgring...whilst the 250 is well discontinued.

    • @MiraSubieGirl
      @MiraSubieGirl 6 лет назад

      My 250 is more like a 320 :)

  • @bmwe92m
    @bmwe92m 15 лет назад

    Yeah, think u r right.
    hopefully, u can turn that thing of, cos as long as u r not on a track it just is annoying.

  • @janezick
    @janezick 12 лет назад

    i don't know about that who is better thing, but about laptimes on nurburgring....when they are doing offical lap times, car goes full circle, but if you look at videos shoot by amateurs, the lap ends when the final straight begins, so it is not the full circle ;))

  • @Frol3R
    @Frol3R 15 лет назад

    The RS seems to be a huge car CYLINDERS rally theme but if I dream of one of these, I would dream of the Megane RS, look the LED and the front wing on the face of the car to remember formula 1 engagement. That is a car. But to be honest, i don't dream of hot hatch like you and I have no xbox, i jjust work for a brand as designer and know probably more about car than you will ever.

  • @shadowbillyphone
    @shadowbillyphone 13 лет назад

    How much more is the Focus RS? Enough to make you tune your Megane to beat the Focus. Moreover, Megane is great as it is. I don't see why people who are dedicated to look for a Focus would get a Megane, nor will the Megane people get a Focus. Anyway, to sum up I'd say go with whichever choice you want because they are both great cars.

  • @vrednie
    @vrednie 12 лет назад

    The car that got the nurburgring record is the new RS265, not this model RS250. These cars are race cars for the road. Believe the time

  • @samnottm
    @samnottm 15 лет назад

    ive actually owned fords and renaults,unlike some,rs1600i best ford i ever owned,xr3i,rs turbo series 2,clio 172 cup(valentines present for my fiance)great fun car.megane full fat 225 and the r26 in liquid gold.i never had a fault in the renaults but last year bought the nissan xtrail,28k,and had so much trouble with that,particulate filter is a *itch....im gonna probably buy the 250 next april.

  • @mtksvn1
    @mtksvn1 14 лет назад

    The same guy puts the Clio RS with 200hp against the focus RS and 'keeps up with it'... and now he says the megane with 250hp is in a far less class then the ford? strange..

  • @scoot24925
    @scoot24925 14 лет назад

    @Genius83 ok sorry than...but one thing u should know ....the renaultsport megane 250 cup is the best hot hatch...is cheap and faster...and more fun to...i like the ford but the megane more

  • @nick13588
    @nick13588 15 лет назад

    what this vid doesnt mention is although the focus is the fastest it is also £6000 more compare it to some other cars like in the sme price range like the bmw 135i coupe and its not so impresive then!

  • @cookiehead2
    @cookiehead2 15 лет назад

    I wonder if I could ship a Focus RS over here.

  • @FuRyZee
    @FuRyZee 12 лет назад

    I bought an RS250 a few weeks ago, its a brilliant car, its handling is amongst the best and its grip is monumental. In a road like that, it should have easily destroyed a Focus RS. Maybe they should have found someone who can properly drive. The proof is in the Nurburgring lap time.

  • @RS1800ROB
    @RS1800ROB 14 лет назад

    @tn21beer thats the exact point of the ford, you said it spot on sir, i totally agree.
    THUMBS UP tn21beer's comment!!!

  • @xsbgtr
    @xsbgtr 13 лет назад

    Well...Iám a focus RS fan to the bone...but I love that Megane just as much as i love the Focus... difficult for me to decide..It´s like deciding wich is your favorite test... you know, imposible

  • @hayksamvelyan
    @hayksamvelyan 15 лет назад

    the renault looks awesome, the rear reminds me of the scirocco

  • @Jessie_Pinkman_
    @Jessie_Pinkman_ 13 лет назад

    @shadowbillyphone Finally, someone on the internet that talks some sense! And as for tuning a 250, 500 quid chip sees 300bhp in a more capable chassis. I am a Renault fan, but I too love the Focus, however there is no denying, the Megane handles alot better and with Equal BHP the focus would be no match.

  • @danny200878
    @danny200878 14 лет назад

    Autocar tested these cars in the last magazine and the Megane was quicker to 100 than the focus, and faster round the track. This guy obviously can't drive.
    Evo magazine also tested them both finding the Megane faster. The Megane was up 20bhp on claimed and the FRS was 20bhp down.
    I've ordered a Megane 250 Cup :-)

  • @tn21beer
    @tn21beer 14 лет назад

    @LiamDeth someone brought up the r26r, which is what i was commenting about.

  • @allyc85
    @allyc85 15 лет назад

    The Focus dosnt look like its trying, especially on the straights where its meant to be faster.

  • @ElfyJD
    @ElfyJD 6 лет назад +5

    This guy has no idea what he's talking about.

  • @minibus1351
    @minibus1351 14 лет назад

    This dude is my favouite car reviewer.

  • @danny200878
    @danny200878 15 лет назад

    Evo magazine did a track test of these two, the Cupra R and Golf GTI and the Megane won hands down. Beat the Focus by 2 seconds on a wetter track!
    The Focus is looking old. I'm biased though, my Megane 250 Cup is being delivered March 1st...... :o)

  • @NigoNI60
    @NigoNI60 14 лет назад

    the good thing with Ford is that you'll still enjoy it in 10 years
    you can't think of buying a 5yo hot french car without talking what did, do or will go wrong with it

  • @YellowCamaro85
    @YellowCamaro85 14 лет назад

    @HipHopBible08 i thought the Cobalt SS/TC was teh quikest matching a BMW
    E46 M3 at 8:20 sec

  • @Nakke144
    @Nakke144 15 лет назад

    I love both these cars. But i would take the Ford, because it is slightly better. And i have always been a Ford-guy. :) But the Megane would be my second choise, its awsome.

  • @Frol3R
    @Frol3R 15 лет назад

    depends on how you approach the pb of making the fastest traction in the world. But testing such car on then nurburgring was something Renault already know and from the analysis of the datas to the study of the chassis I think Renault used his exeprience in F1. Full equiped doesn't mean nothing to me.Full equiped has no sense and focus is not made for the track so I don't see how it could be better than the Renault.

  • @hydroop
    @hydroop 12 лет назад

    Both cars are pretty good looking and certainly fast. Its only logical that the Ford is faster because of its more powerful engine.

  • @NeilMagill
    @NeilMagill 15 лет назад

    Sorry to hear that mate, I can honestly say and from experience you must have got a lemon!
    And as I touched on, im not "guessing" as you put it :P.

  • @roadpailot
    @roadpailot 15 лет назад

    what was this all about. first he starts saying really good things about the Megane 250 and when he almost said he prefers it he went with the Focus RS

  • @samnottm
    @samnottm 15 лет назад

    megane makes the focus look "old".the focus is for chavs with a few quid.the vents on the focus should work well with a burberry cap and stone island jacket.
    no doubt renault will develop the 250 into the rs250r.and again give its customers another peach like the r26r,which at the moment is the fastest fwd production car to lap the nurburgring.
    i do like the look of the focus but its,well,like an old shirt,comfortable once loved but "old".

  • @Lanmolas
    @Lanmolas 12 лет назад

    Not to be a sour puss or anything, but I've driven both on numerous occasions, and I own a Megane RS 250. Yes, the Focus is much faster in a straight line. Yes, it has a much bigger boot, one you can actually lift stuff into, not that narrow gap you get in the Megane. But still, there's no feel in the steering, and the interior feels horrible. I still prefer the Megane, it's just a nicer place to be.

  • @sspope
    @sspope 15 лет назад

    Skidpad g doesn't represent real handling, and those numbers for Camaro and Mustang are well over exaggerated in your comment. Besides, Camaro wasn't even designed in USA.

  • @flamekid220
    @flamekid220 15 лет назад

    oh, how i wish renault would come to the states.