You can now export a single alembic from Embergen and skip the entire Blender work around. There are still issues with importing specific types of data. Waiting until the kinks are worked out for an update.
It´s all nice and cool but where are the particle attributes exported from embergen. They contain color, scale, velocity, etc. They are the entire point in terms of controlling stuff.
Awesome tutorial! Do you know how to give the particles random rotation inside of C4D? Say for example, instead of instancing spheres on the points, you instanced rocks. You'd want the rocks to have a different rotation for a better look. When I try to use a random effector, it makes my instanced objects all jittery and pop.
Right now the particle export from embergen is a bit bugged and doesn't contain correct particle IDs so the particle number jumps around. They are working on a new build to stabilize this but it won't be out for a little bit.
@@RoyalsAndRogues Ahh thanks man. I suspected that was the case I just wasn't sure. I love embergen but issues like this prevent me from using it on the shots I want to so often. For example, today I realized that vertex color currently isn't working on alembic files. It only works on FBX. I saw in their discord that they're working on this but who knows when it'll be fixed. Ugh
@@kickheavy8982 Yeah it is to be expected with young programs that have to work with many other formats but it is annoying to have to wait for patches all the time.
@@RoyalsAndRogues Yeah exactly. Still an amazing program, just gotta roll with the punches. Issues like this make me happy that I invested time into learning how to create the same effect in more than one program. I'm gonna just use C4D's pyro+particles instead for this shot.
when I export the particles from blender as an alembic with all the same parameters, the particles are not visible anywhere in the c4d viewport when I import the .abc file
is there any force in embergen which would make the particle stick on teh surface of an object, for example affected by gravity but they slide down on the object without leaving the surface of it?
Emitter>particle collision> Up Friction, lower bounce, if it's still not sticking enough you can make the repulsion intensity a negative number so the collider pulls it in instead of pushing away.
How do you use the particle size exported from blender? When setting IDs to points usually you'd want the ID to be stable and not changing, cause otherwise you'd get a certain 'popping' of particles. Can the attributes exported from Embergen be used in Blender?
You don't have to click from the top to split the view. You can right click on any divider or two diff views and then select split vertically or horizontally. There's also a geonodes viewport setup that Blender comes with so you don't have to change your layout to use geonodes everytime lol.
anyone knows how it works for octane in c4d - octane opbject geometry to particles tag is not working for me :( thx for the aweseome on point tutorial.
@@leafshinobi8781 Hey, in the geometry nodes editor you just need to add a set material node, and then select the material there. Then you can edit the material in the shader tab like usual
Hi, ran into a problem when outputting a single alembic from blender, it breaks the vectors at the particles. Could you share a preset to load alembic sequences into cinema4d without blender? The link you provided in the description doesn't have the file (
Not sure I understand the issue, do the particles not let you use a matrix object to map to the points or is the issue they come in as vertex points and not particles. If that is your issue I show a second way to keep them as particles but it's more complicated.
@@RoyalsAndRogues alembic single file imports well into cinema4d. The problem is that in the animation particles strobing and jumping, but in the original alembic sequences all works well, the problem is in the animation of the single file after blender about the second method, I couldn't download your preset from gumroad p.s. When exporting alembic from blender I also added samples on Update transform, it improved the situation but didn't fix it completely
@@laykinz Do you have "interpolation" checked under "Animation" in the object tab of the alembic? If so uncheck it. Example: capture.dropbox.com/oBeHEfr0bLLXsCKV Might need to pin this if it works.
hello, i could need some help , is it possible to use an imported geometry only as an Effector und not as an Emittor. I want to manipulate an fire emittor with an imported Geometry but the Geometry himself should not burn. but rather it should effect the emittor with his geometry, i hope this was clear, my english is ugly sorry, , sadly i cant find an option like that
you have to export a vdb instead and activate velocity channel export. You can use that to drive simualtion forces in c4D for rigid body, particles, fire and stuff
@@Ima9inarium Working on another liquigen tut, then might dive back into Embergen particles, C4D updated their Alembic workflow so I have to test that as well.
@@RoyalsAndRoguesi am already a jangafx suite customer....but these particles abc do not ever import into unreal...😢...however anyother abc with mesh ( both liquids and so and so) opens and works fine...but particles ( or points abc) never...plz help if any work around😢😢
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You can now export a single alembic from Embergen and skip the entire Blender work around.
There are still issues with importing specific types of data. Waiting until the kinks are worked out for an update.
any update on this?
@@jonniebrasco68 Working on it. Been swamped with "real work"
This is sick, there is such little information on embergen online man its tough to learn.
btw there is a button in embergen ( 1.1.2 i think ) that exports a single alembic file
Yeah this whole thing is out of date. Need to make a v2.
Also C4D imports better.
@RoyalsAndRogues yep we need a v.2 hehe
Wow this video could not be better timing lol, I will probably have questions thanks!
Thanks HEAPS man
It´s all nice and cool but where are the particle attributes exported from embergen. They contain color, scale, velocity, etc. They are the entire point in terms of controlling stuff.
dont know
did you find any solution to this. pls answer
Yea same thing happened to me. I’m now trying Khaos!
Awesome tutorial! Do you know how to give the particles random rotation inside of C4D? Say for example, instead of instancing spheres on the points, you instanced rocks. You'd want the rocks to have a different rotation for a better look. When I try to use a random effector, it makes my instanced objects all jittery and pop.
Right now the particle export from embergen is a bit bugged and doesn't contain correct particle IDs so the particle number jumps around. They are working on a new build to stabilize this but it won't be out for a little bit.
@@RoyalsAndRogues Ahh thanks man. I suspected that was the case I just wasn't sure. I love embergen but issues like this prevent me from using it on the shots I want to so often. For example, today I realized that vertex color currently isn't working on alembic files. It only works on FBX. I saw in their discord that they're working on this but who knows when it'll be fixed. Ugh
@@kickheavy8982 Yeah it is to be expected with young programs that have to work with many other formats but it is annoying to have to wait for patches all the time.
@@RoyalsAndRogues Yeah exactly. Still an amazing program, just gotta roll with the punches. Issues like this make me happy that I invested time into learning how to create the same effect in more than one program. I'm gonna just use C4D's pyro+particles instead for this shot.
Awesome, thank you
when I export the particles from blender as an alembic with all the same parameters, the particles are not visible anywhere in the c4d viewport when I import the .abc file
Same thing happened to me. Where are the particles?
Same here!
is there any force in embergen which would make the particle stick on teh surface of an object, for example affected by gravity but they slide down on the object without leaving the surface of it?
Emitter>particle collision> Up Friction, lower bounce, if it's still not sticking enough you can make the repulsion intensity a negative number so the collider pulls it in instead of pushing away.
@@RoyalsAndRogues great , thanks a lot !
How do you copy the exact transform data from an imported animated mesh? VDB export has a transform input, allembic doesn't :(
How do you use the particle size exported from blender? When setting IDs to points usually you'd want the ID to be stable and not changing, cause otherwise you'd get a certain 'popping' of particles. Can the attributes exported from Embergen be used in Blender?
Are you finishing this in c4d or blender?
You don't have to click from the top to split the view. You can right click on any divider or two diff views and then select split vertically or horizontally. There's also a geonodes viewport setup that Blender comes with so you don't have to change your layout to use geonodes everytime lol.
Good tips thanks.
anyone knows how it works for octane in c4d - octane opbject geometry to particles tag is not working for me :(
thx for the aweseome on point tutorial.
May I ask how to add material to the particles on the blender?
did you find any solution for this. pls answer
@@leafshinobi8781 Hey, in the geometry nodes editor you just need to add a set material node, and then select the material there. Then you can edit the material in the shader tab like usual
@@colejohnstonco yes I found that later. Thanks anyways
Hi, ran into a problem when outputting a single alembic from blender, it breaks the vectors at the particles. Could you share a preset to load alembic sequences into cinema4d without blender? The link you provided in the description doesn't have the file (
P.S. with this problem I can't use Motion blur correctly
Not sure I understand the issue, do the particles not let you use a matrix object to map to the points or is the issue they come in as vertex points and not particles. If that is your issue I show a second way to keep them as particles but it's more complicated.
@@RoyalsAndRogues alembic single file imports well into cinema4d. The problem is that in the animation particles strobing and jumping, but in the original alembic sequences all works well, the problem is in the animation of the single file after blender
about the second method, I couldn't download your preset from gumroad
p.s. When exporting alembic from blender I also added samples on Update transform, it improved the situation but didn't fix it completely
@@laykinz
Do you have "interpolation" checked under "Animation" in the object tab of the alembic? If so uncheck it.
Example:
capture.dropbox.com/oBeHEfr0bLLXsCKV
Might need to pin this if it works.
I use Arnold in c4d and I don`t know what to do(
hello, i could need some help , is it possible to use an imported geometry only as an Effector und not as an Emittor. I want to manipulate an fire emittor with an imported Geometry but the Geometry himself should not burn. but rather it should effect the emittor with his geometry, i hope this was clear, my english is ugly sorry, , sadly i cant find an option like that
you have to export a vdb instead and activate velocity channel export. You can use that to drive simualtion forces in c4D for rigid body, particles, fire and stuff
Thank you!
You're welcome!
I’m not able to transform it when I import it into blender. Do you know a fix?
I am not a heavy blender user but you might be able to put it in a null object and move that instead?
Can i import particles into unreal😢?
Hi. Can you share Embergen preset used in this tutorial?
It's pretty simple.
I might do a tutorial on building a waterfall soon.
Thanks
you can check export single file in embergen
They just added this, will make a new tut and link to it here
@@RoyalsAndRogues How's that tutorial coming along?
@@Ima9inarium Working on another liquigen tut, then might dive back into Embergen particles, C4D updated their Alembic workflow so I have to test that as well.
Hello!
could you re-upload the material for Сiniema on gumroad?
Tnank u😁
I never took it down but I'll check to see what's up
What about ue5
What about it?
@@RoyalsAndRoguesi am already a jangafx suite customer....but these particles abc do not ever import into unreal...😢...however anyother abc with mesh ( both liquids and so and so) opens and works fine...but particles ( or points abc) never...plz help if any work around😢😢
tnanks but how use colors data in blender it not show.
There are issues with the color and particle data coming through at the moment I'm working with Janga to fix it.
Excuse me Ser, What are your PC specs
Good.
A user interface with BUTTONS..... XD
I know why I love C4D 😀
Imma subscribe the fuck outta you, boi! This is a wonderful tutorial! (C4D user here!) X
11:10 Octane user feels slightly insulted
Octane is super cool, wish I had more time to learn it.
The lighting is bad in the video. Your camera looks dim
Maybe your screen is broken?
hmmm maybe. Anyway dude, you share a lot of useful stuff, keep going, love to see ur future content, big up