There's a theory that Bach never wrote this piece but was originally transcribed for an organ from a violin piece composed by an anonymous person. There's also another theory that the piece may have been composed by another composer but was attributed to Bach.
But considering the date it was written varies over 50 years or so, to say he was 17 is an absolute guess. There seems to be much mystery around this piece, which actually kind of suits it IMO. What better piece to have a mystery about its age and possibly even its composer?
@@Gandalf_the_Gay It would be hard to play on a violin, as, in most of the score, there is more than 1 note playing at a time, ( like 2 -6 parts), also no violin (except the virtually unknown, quadruple bass violin, can play a note with fundamentals around 20 hz. JOKE The 1st theory includes the 2nd as: if Bach didn't write it someone else must have,.. unless the piece is, actually unwritten and we are just under a delusion that it is. ...... also JOKE . Seriously,.. if Bach wrote it,.. it was probably when he was quite young considering how it compares to other works he composed.
An absolutely beautiful piece! Bach had a great ability to compose! Personally, I feel the Fugue is actually creepier than the Toccata. While the Toccata sounds more brooding, the Fugue's repeating melody is very intimidating, and especially creepy.
Bach used many different keys for one melody, very well done fugue, that student who held that paper was holding a 100 tons of gold. The counterpoint, polytonality, and polyphony is excellent. I have no idea why Bach was not famous during the Baroque period.
@@marykolar7319comment for elliottmarcel Polytonality is a term used in the late 19th and early 20th century to suggest chromaticism, and at best an ambiguous tonal center. While Bach wrote pieces that fit the term "polytonality" somewhat in the sense later adopted by musicologists in the 20th century,... this is not really one of them. It sits pretty firmly in in the key of Dm, with a few elusive chord changes where one expects cadences, and as far as polyphony is concerned (if this IS Bach! which it certainly could be), it is one with a simpler scheme of polyphony, than many of what we would project as his later works. And off course Bach was pretty well known during his lifetime, even though his lifetime marked a change in musical tastes and his style of polyphony was falling out of favor toward 1740's.
5:35 - 5:45 feels like heaven opens it's gates in my heart and confirms life is more than a jumble of post modern, nihilism and deconstructions...and I'm not even religious.
this is a very beaty and intellectual song.... the main reason about the "the fear" it brings to the unaccustomed listener (like me) in classical music is the organ.... is such a powerful instrument that is easy to get unconfortable specially with those so powerful minor chordsBTW nice ideo but i would like to hear more about the cultural refference and religious meaning
This video was perfect for a nerd like me, thank you because I really wanted to be able to tell where the fugue started and ended. This piece is dark, not creepy to me. It sounds innovative and very bold. Very “out of the box”. I love Bach’s musical landscapes, he’s really good at taking you there… if you let him.
I experience frission really harshly to most music, and this piece literally makes my throat hurt, i lose my breath, and get shivers down my spine through the whole thing. ESPECIALLY the finale. What an incredible piece.
SO IT'S THE FUGE PART I LOVE SO MUCH IT'S FREAKING EPIC so that's what a fuge is! Because little fuge in d minor is my favorite Bach piece and that's why that tune is played a bunch of different times and in a different way each time you hear it absolutely awesome I thank you for this video and your time to make it bless you
I have a strong association of this piece with dracula, castlevania and castles. But I have studied contemporary music and jazz harmony in university, not so much classical, and I want to understand what the feeling and intention of Bach's Toccata and Fugue. What is the original intention of this piece? It's obviously Alucard walking in Dracula's castle in Castlevania, but its something. I want to get to the root of what the piece represents, but not just the analysis of the harmony, counterpoint, rhythm, melody, time signature, structure, and sections, but the general feeling and intention behind the piece. Its a great mystery
damn, man. I love your content and I am going to buy (and wear with pride) your shirts. I'm a Music noob though, so I wished that you shared a little more information in this video like how the theme changed in the Fugue. I really can't hear the theme 😂 wish you all the best with your channel.
Need more details please. I heard this was originally just a "test" piece to try out all of the stops in an organ and not meant for live recital. LOVE IT though!
I find it a little funny that you spoke of the Ringk manuscript but then played music following the displayed score that *isn't* the same as what's in the source document. (E.g. - measures 14 & 15 were played with the same notes (identical intervals), just an octave apart. In the Ringk manuscript, measure 14 is subtly different from measure 15 - its line goes down a little farther before jumping back up a little...) Nice job otherwise on the video!
This was in the original silent film Nosferatu wasn't it? I guess there is no history of the artists thoughts about this piece. Bummer! I don't know if it is actually Creepy or if we are just used to associating it with old creepy movies. Either way your video has been very educational. As i get older i am more interested in where things come from. Thank you. Radar O'riley: Ah, Bach!
There is not such thing as ostinato in this piece. If you would use 10:44 to 10:54, for example, as an accompaniment throughout a piece and play a melody over, that would be ostinato.
You... Did not... Answer the goddamn question! Was Johan Wrink (or whatever his name was) correct? Was the T&FiD- composed by Bach or by Kellner? How does this piece compare to Bach's other music? Does it fit or does it sound too different?
There's a theory that Bach never wrote this piece but was originally transcribed for an organ from a violin piece composed by an anonymous person. There's also another theory that the piece may have been composed by another composer but was attributed to Bach.
Legend says Bach wrote this when he was 17. Imagine a young boy in a church in Leipzig on the organ creating these otherworldly sounds.
They probably thought the kid was possessed by music.
There's a theory that Bach never wrote this piece but was originally transcribed for an organ from a violin piece composed by an anonymous person. There's also another theory that the piece may have been composed by another composer but was attributed to Bach.
But considering the date it was written varies over 50 years or so, to say he was 17 is an absolute guess.
There seems to be much mystery around this piece, which actually kind of suits it IMO. What better piece to have a mystery about its age and possibly even its composer?
@@Gandalf_the_Gay It would be hard to play on a violin, as, in most of the score, there is more than 1 note playing at a time, ( like 2 -6 parts), also no violin (except the virtually unknown, quadruple bass violin, can play a note with fundamentals around 20 hz. JOKE The 1st theory includes the 2nd as: if Bach didn't write it someone else must have,.. unless the piece is, actually unwritten and we are just under a delusion that it is. ...... also JOKE .
Seriously,.. if Bach wrote it,.. it was probably when he was quite young considering how it compares to other works he composed.
I've never viewed this piece as "Creepy" or fear inspiring in any capacity.
I've always perceived this piece as a sort of stress with no resolution.
The fugue part always gets me.
@Jett Joel how about you support the creators instead of tricking your way to watch for free
@Luke Anderson good for you, if i like something i rather pay to support who made it
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An absolutely beautiful piece! Bach had a great ability to compose! Personally, I feel the Fugue is actually creepier than the Toccata. While the Toccata sounds more brooding, the Fugue's repeating melody is very intimidating, and especially creepy.
I listened to the entire thing and all I'm picturing is the Tocatta as a storm; fearful and harsh, and the Fugue as the winds blowing after the storm
Bach used many different keys for one melody, very well done fugue, that student who held that paper was holding a 100 tons of gold. The counterpoint, polytonality, and polyphony is excellent. I have no idea why Bach was not famous during the Baroque period.
Are you sure you mean polytonality?
@@marykolar7319comment for elliottmarcel Polytonality is a term used in the late 19th and early 20th century to suggest chromaticism, and at best an ambiguous tonal center. While Bach wrote pieces that fit the term "polytonality" somewhat in the sense later adopted by musicologists in the 20th century,... this is not really one of them. It sits pretty firmly in in the key of Dm, with a few elusive chord changes where one expects cadences, and as far as polyphony is concerned (if this IS Bach! which it certainly could be), it is one with a simpler scheme of polyphony, than many of what we would project as his later works.
And off course Bach was pretty well known during his lifetime, even though his lifetime marked a change in musical tastes and his style of polyphony was falling out of favor toward 1740's.
"The part of the section that you may not familiar with" (plays bit)
Thats Orochimaru's theme from Naruto! Of course, I'm familiar with this part.
5:35 - 5:45 feels like heaven opens it's gates in my heart and confirms life is more than a jumble of post modern, nihilism and deconstructions...and I'm not even religious.
11:47 onward, absolutely best part
Watched this for band class, aced the test, this was a great video, thank you!!
How about a video on Stravinsky's Rite of Spring?
That is definitely on my list of future videos!
this is a very beaty and intellectual song.... the main reason about the "the fear" it brings to the unaccustomed listener (like me) in classical music is the organ.... is such a powerful instrument that is easy to get unconfortable specially with those so powerful minor chordsBTW nice ideo but i would like to hear more about the cultural refference and religious meaning
two things that came to my mind while listening to this- "Once upon a time...man" intro theme and Jon Lord's "Bach onto this".
This video was perfect for a nerd like me, thank you because I really wanted to be able to tell where the fugue started and ended. This piece is dark, not creepy to me. It sounds innovative and very bold. Very “out of the box”. I love Bach’s musical landscapes, he’s really good at taking you there… if you let him.
I experience frission really harshly to most music, and this piece literally makes my throat hurt, i lose my breath, and get shivers down my spine through the whole thing. ESPECIALLY the finale. What an incredible piece.
SO IT'S THE FUGE PART I LOVE SO MUCH IT'S FREAKING EPIC so that's what a fuge is! Because little fuge in d minor is my favorite Bach piece and that's why that tune is played a bunch of different times and in a different way each time you hear it absolutely awesome I thank you for this video and your time to make it bless you
Please do more listening guides! They are so helpful and easy to follow
Will do! I have a few ideas for more listening guides lined up. Keep an eye out for them coming soon. Thanks for watching!
Going to be using this in a 6th grade class tomorrow. The highlighted score is especially useful!
I hope your class had fun watching the video!
I have a strong association of this piece with dracula, castlevania and castles. But I have studied contemporary music and jazz harmony in university, not so much classical, and I want to understand what the feeling and intention of Bach's Toccata and Fugue. What is the original intention of this piece? It's obviously Alucard walking in Dracula's castle in Castlevania, but its something. I want to get to the root of what the piece represents, but not just the analysis of the harmony, counterpoint, rhythm, melody, time signature, structure, and sections, but the general feeling and intention behind the piece. Its a great mystery
This channel deserves more subs. Keep up the great work!
damn, man. I love your content and I am going to buy (and wear with pride) your shirts. I'm a Music noob though, so I wished that you shared a little more information in this video like how the theme changed in the Fugue. I really can't hear the theme 😂
wish you all the best with your channel.
Thanks for the feedback! I will try to do a better job of showing what I’m talking about in future videos. Thanks for watching!
Love it! Keep up the good work! Interested in seeing more!
this was exactly what i was looking for; a back history of the piece, and a bonus guided tour of the music itself.thanks :D
I had to make a 1000-1500 word presentation about this. I didn't know S#HT about this. You F#C&ING SAVED MY LIFE! THIS IS AMAZING!!! THANK YOU!!!
I remember this as zeus theme in battle of Olympus game on nes something like this and I fell in love with it since then.
I've often wondered what mood Bach intended for this piece. Was it always meant to sound ominous? If not, then what?
Creepy? Scary? Not even close. It is a wonderful piece of music composed by the absolute master of organ music.
Looking forward to a potential video series of must-know pieces as classical music students!
Great analysis
I remember watching this video as prep a while ago, found this on recommended
Need more details please. I heard this was originally just a "test" piece to try out all of the stops in an organ and not meant for live recital. LOVE IT though!
I find it a little funny that you spoke of the Ringk manuscript but then played music following the displayed score that *isn't* the same as what's in the source document. (E.g. - measures 14 & 15 were played with the same notes (identical intervals), just an octave apart. In the Ringk manuscript, measure 14 is subtly different from measure 15 - its line goes down a little farther before jumping back up a little...) Nice job otherwise on the video!
Great job!
That C#dim/D is divine
I just realized some of the stuff I’ve heard in all my life. The fuga part of the song I heard it in battles of orochimaru in naruto wtf!!!
This was in the original silent film Nosferatu wasn't it? I guess there is no history of the artists thoughts about this piece. Bummer! I don't know if it is actually Creepy or if we are just used to associating it with old creepy movies. Either way your video has been very educational. As i get older i am more interested in where things come from. Thank you.
Radar O'riley: Ah, Bach!
The bugue is awsome!
awesome video, thank you
Thank you!
hello please tell me how you scrolling the score is there an app ?
Thanks you for this!
I wanted to think that Toccata and Fugue were some mythology characters
I believe there is an organ that is for the Gods&Goddess that vibration alone could kill any human being because it’s so powerful
Please do a Carnival of the Animals video
That sounds like fun. I will add it to the list of future videos. Thanks for the suggestion!
The actual complete piece at 6:27
I'm an ignoramus when it comes to classic music. I think I encountered this piece while defeating bowser in mario 64.
I wouldn't be surprised. There are a ton of music references in old nintendo games!
The music in mario 64, isnt the Toccata and Fugue in D minor, it is a piece called "Ultimate koopa"
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Where does the episode in the fugue start?
I am here because of back on the rocks
Doesn’t the fugue use a technique called barriolage
Hey people this channel should reach 1M subscribers, help sharing its videos pls
I always here this and think of horror movies but I don’t thinks it’s creepy but just stress or anger
Do a video about Beethovens Wellingtons Victory
That piece definitely has some history behind it, I will add it to the list for upcoming videos. Thanks for the suggestion!
You have to start making clickbaits, it's a shame that such great content is relatively unnoticed :(
Seriously telling some one to use make clickbait? So low
I always thought the song was supposed to curse you lol
Can someone please identify an ostinato phrase in this musical piece?
There is not such thing as ostinato in this piece. If you would use 10:44 to 10:54, for example, as an accompaniment throughout a piece and play a melody over, that would be ostinato.
I am watching this video on 2024.
And then came Hans Zimmer.
I think karma gave bach what he deserved by saving vivaldi’s composition jeje
You...
Did not...
Answer the goddamn question!
Was Johan Wrink (or whatever his name was) correct? Was the T&FiD- composed by Bach or by Kellner? How does this piece compare to Bach's other music? Does it fit or does it sound too different?
I don’t like ‘the way it sounds to me.
There's a theory that Bach never wrote this piece but was originally transcribed for an organ from a violin piece composed by an anonymous person. There's also another theory that the piece may have been composed by another composer but was attributed to Bach.
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