TEKKEN 8 ADVANCED LILI GUIDE: use fundamentals like the pros

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  • Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
  • This TEKKEN 8 guide is made for advanced Lili players that already understand her frames and moves, and want to take their gameplay to the next level.
    Sorry for the scratchy mic, have no idea why that's happening.

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  • @nobacktalk
    @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад +37

    hi yall didn’t expect so many views on this video. let me know if there’s any other vids you want to see

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад +3

      and ty for the support!

    • @Im0nJupiter
      @Im0nJupiter 7 месяцев назад +1

      I'd be interested in BT stuff. Like:
      -Why go into BT?
      -What should you go into BT with?
      -How do certain transitions into BT change what you do in BT? Ex like, are there situations oB that transitions into BT shouldn't be canceled?
      -Should you fish for BT mix?
      -When is playing for a BT mix up just introducing unnecessary risk into your gameplan? Just take the frames and run?
      BT seems like a pretty deep stance given there's so many ways to enter it, with different frames on block vs on hit.
      That said, this would be more beginner centric than what you had in this video and idk what your target audience is. Your analysis in this video was great and very useful! Do what you do feel passionate about and know well, and I'm sure that will attract the audience you hope to reach.

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад +3

      @@Im0nJupiterNo its actually a pretty deep topic so i’ll go into it in a future vid maybe. Ty for the suggestion

    • @cawfee254
      @cawfee254 6 месяцев назад

      Can you also talk about fiesty rabbit usage?

    • @davidirving5636
      @davidirving5636 4 месяца назад

      maybe a stance video covering dew/bt/feisty rabbit a little more in dept?

  • @ziavarachia5597
    @ziavarachia5597 7 месяцев назад +204

    Caitlyn what are you doing here.

    • @akedotwav9594
      @akedotwav9594 7 месяцев назад +9

      THE EXACT SAME THING I SAID

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад +62

      every 5 attacks my lili does bonus damage

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield 7 месяцев назад +4

      Looking for her Vi

    • @averageuser4669
      @averageuser4669 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@falconeshield someone needs to customize asuka into vi ASAP

    • @ky84
      @ky84 4 месяца назад

      Best costume fr

  • @c4ffeineaddict
    @c4ffeineaddict 7 месяцев назад +35

    People are def sleeping on Lili. She got some nice buffs in T8. Would also add that 1,1 is another great tool to condition with.

  • @ElectricSphinx818
    @ElectricSphinx818 7 месяцев назад +8

    Probably the most clear description of lili's gameplan i’ve seen yet. Also really helped to see this gameplan in action with Knee in tourney, great guide thank you!

  • @nojumi2358
    @nojumi2358 7 месяцев назад +4

    thanks for this ! lili has been my main since tekken revolution but never really got into playing tekken online seriously until 8 came out, i have her moves down but realized i was lacking fundamentals with her after playing against high ranked opponents, this will def help in solidifying a game plan with her

  • @SporePunch
    @SporePunch 7 месяцев назад +22

    I love this, no bullshit, no cheap shit, just a solid base to start genuinely improving. Great shit, much appreciated

  • @Im0nJupiter
    @Im0nJupiter 7 месяцев назад +8

    It's a cool dynamic to gain safety like she does. I'm main shopping since Steve feels pretty awkward to play right now, Lili, Feng and Reina are on the list. Lili, of those, feels the most like what I'm looking for, her offense is so safe and her natural defense is great. Your explanation of her offense convinced me!
    I've noticed Lili, Feng, and Steve are kind of a "type" of player lol.

  • @Icycrackedpanda
    @Icycrackedpanda 29 дней назад

    The guide u needed I was losing it trying to figure out why I was getting blown up every game

  • @RaeNicole17
    @RaeNicole17 7 месяцев назад +3

    I needed this. Even as a long time Lili player from older tekken games this was so helpful ❤

  • @tonypolk8
    @tonypolk8 6 месяцев назад

    i love how straightforward you are explaining everything. this is what a lot of people fail to realize about lili 🤭

  • @TheNazerLazer
    @TheNazerLazer 7 месяцев назад +3

    Great video! Im new but slowly getting better and this is a huge help in giving me a direction in what to focus on instead of whinging it every match

  • @iamlazyboy98
    @iamlazyboy98 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm a big Tekken casual and Lili enjoyer, this video was interesting this is the first Tekken I've tried playing online outside of playing with friends, I'm just marauder ranked but if one day I feel like I'm plateauing I'll try to come back to this video

  • @Swift_LN
    @Swift_LN 4 месяца назад +2

    I feel like this would have been an amazing video for T7 Lili. T8 has so much chip damage that zoning and just playing passively and waiting to punish mistakes just loses you the game due to sheer attrition.

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  4 месяца назад +3

      yeah I made the vid a couple weeks after 8 came out but i agree. that said I think a lot of things still hold up, just need to be a bit more proactive in 8

  • @RickiHirsch
    @RickiHirsch 6 месяцев назад

    Love it. Focused, direct and extremely helpful. Showing Knee putting everything into practice really tied it all together beautifully. Thank you!

  • @Ro_Naba
    @Ro_Naba 2 месяца назад

    Great guide. It really helped me to understand Lili's game plan more.

  • @SabelXDlol
    @SabelXDlol 7 месяцев назад +3

    Loved this especially the commentary on the Knee match ✅

  • @prismtek
    @prismtek 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this video. After much deliberation, I downloaded Tekken 8 today and actually am quite excited about it. I started to play as Lili back in Tekken 6 a long time ago and she definitely became one of my favourites (apart from Nina because she is my main). I didn't play TTT2 and only played Tekken 7 for a little bit. The one thing I discovered straightaway whilst practising with Lili is that you cannot play with her recklessly, just throwing out random moves and expecting to win? You have to be very careful and strategic with her moves. I now understand what top-level Lili players mean when they say she is quite risky. I see players online randomly doing moves and not even doing combos? I immediately think to myself "This player has no idea what they are doing with Lili".

  • @rd_taph8779
    @rd_taph8779 6 месяцев назад +2

    I never played a single game of TEKKEN yet I am here watching this and be like "shir, I should learn that"

  • @RoseDotWav
    @RoseDotWav 7 месяцев назад

    This is a really good video both for people that want to learn the character and people that need help fighting her.
    She can be rather painful to play against in 8 if you don’t know what you’re doing

  • @leeshxz
    @leeshxz 7 месяцев назад

    U dont know how much this vid is useful to me .. Thank u 🙏 realy needed that a long time ago

  • @rie6181
    @rie6181 6 месяцев назад

    I main kazuya, i played 5 characters in this game.. 4 of them is purple rank rn.. now i want to learn lili.. she looks fun to play!

  • @Lemmestarve
    @Lemmestarve 7 месяцев назад +2

    preciate it. she the only one i fw

  • @mullinsmcd
    @mullinsmcd 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hey thanks for doing this but i would recommend to just move record DJ in practice mode and then have your lili show how to counter. Would have worked much better for both parts of the guide . Appreciate the hard work tho!

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад +2

      i have no idea how to use the practice tool tbh 😂😂 but ill try it if i ever make a new vid. ty for the advice

  • @nastyytee
    @nastyytee 7 месяцев назад

    even as a lili who reached higher ranks in t7, this was v helpful !! tyy

  • @TheAazv17
    @TheAazv17 6 месяцев назад

    great video! I have been looking for something like this for a while now.

  • @Kaliynss
    @Kaliynss 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! I’m new to Tekken and can’t win anything but I’ll get better surely

  • @dr.setups2278
    @dr.setups2278 7 месяцев назад

    Only one lili guide and its so damn impressive! Great job!

  • @Bestboymiles
    @Bestboymiles 7 месяцев назад

    I've gotta remember to be patient with her. I just have way to much fun with her cheese stuff that I get carried away. Also I've gotta seriously learn how to properly step, and step punish consistently.

  • @rabbyd542
    @rabbyd542 7 месяцев назад

    I'm close to the Ryu Ranks but I been playing way too aggressively.
    I want to add that Back Turn LK+RK is also a very good move (+2 on block).

  • @Drumbullbee
    @Drumbullbee 6 месяцев назад

    Appreciate the knowledge and break down

  • @vijayvj56
    @vijayvj56 7 месяцев назад

    Very useful guide keep doing more Lili guides

  • @BlancheirDM
    @BlancheirDM 7 месяцев назад

    I clicked cause I saw Caitlyn in a Tekken Video! 😂😂 good video 👍👍 Don't get me wrong though I do play Tekken and Lili has been my main since T6. 🙂

  • @adamowada
    @adamowada 7 месяцев назад

    This is a great guide thank you!

  • @lucazoares
    @lucazoares 7 месяцев назад

    Nice video.
    I really want more like this

  • @gregdeclouiet439
    @gregdeclouiet439 3 месяца назад

    Good shit!!

  • @adamdickerson2762
    @adamdickerson2762 5 месяцев назад

    Nice video this will help me get Fujin.. I’ve been knocking at the door of Fujin but I can’t seem to get the promo I have failed my promo twice.. I’m getting hard pressed and down right frustrated .. maybe we can play a few?

  • @MidzyID1
    @MidzyID1 2 месяца назад

    Nice customization

  • @Matetomate._.7
    @Matetomate._.7 3 месяца назад

    Thx, good video :3

  • @Gabi24492
    @Gabi24492 4 месяца назад

    3:25 really nice guide but isn't no one gonna mention that extra cap on the ground xD

  • @yourMom-jl6kp
    @yourMom-jl6kp 6 месяцев назад

    This is the best advanced Tekken video I’ve seen in new to Tekken and I hit garyu but can’t get any higher this video just opened my eyes to so many leveled of Tekken I didn’t understand

  • @PollutersInc
    @PollutersInc 6 месяцев назад

    That's the first Caitlyn skin I've ever seen in T8

  • @Aok_kojimbo
    @Aok_kojimbo 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the video

  • @dymieon9913
    @dymieon9913 7 месяцев назад +1

    2:14 using ws 4 can be used as keep out and is not punishabke

  • @NoName-wq9eq
    @NoName-wq9eq Месяц назад

    Please post a video of your Lili in gameplay

  • @smoothiewrld999
    @smoothiewrld999 6 месяцев назад

    i almost clicked away, untill i heard you say click away lol
    banger video

  • @AftermathRV
    @AftermathRV 7 месяцев назад +2

    even tho youre calling this an advanced guide, what i absolutely do miss from this guide is a tleast a quick mention of SS matterhorn, and how to enforce the backturn gamble, because thats quite frankly the 2 things that lili is so god damn broken at, if you understand fundamentals, and you can make people play your game, thats how you win em.

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад +1

      i originally made this guide because i saw an 'advanced' lili guide in the first 2 minutes telling me to use matterhorn and got pissed off. so yeah this video isn't gonna go over any tricks like that. BT is just something you can use like dew where you do it in the open to catch people on timing

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад

      i dont use matterhorn.

    • @AftermathRV
      @AftermathRV 7 месяцев назад

      @@nobacktalk f air enough, the sidestep matterhorn is such an insane tier move though that youre doing urself very few favors not atleast having it in your backhand consistently, its p much the nr1 reason sa to why lilis steal so many games in the higher ratings, but im sure you know that already. Point being, same wiht enforcing the Backturn, its very advanced technique that people should just be aware of exists as an option, guess everyone has their bias towards that though, the rest of the video was rock solid, so you wont hear me complain :P

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад

      @@AftermathRV ill have to watch some games where they do the ss matterhorn bc i personally havent seen it. i could be wrong for sure

    • @AftermathRV
      @AftermathRV 7 месяцев назад

      @@nobacktalk SS Ws3 is just as dangerous, the gist is that alot of moves do not have enough tracking as well as downwards hitboxes to hit a lili matterhorning, i would love to give you some matchcodes or IDs , but those arent a thing.
      could ask someone though, would need a few days if youd like?

  • @Arqodeon
    @Arqodeon 7 месяцев назад

    amazing video!

  • @zaccht8464
    @zaccht8464 7 месяцев назад

    Nice vid bro. Subbing

  • @inpy
    @inpy 7 месяцев назад

    Dope vid!

  • @veim00
    @veim00 4 месяца назад

    How about cheesing DB 3+4 enemy always getting hit offguard with it. High range and guaranteed while standing 2 at proper range. Helps me win crucial round at purple ranks only tho

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  4 месяца назад

      not guaranteed but the move is fine if you use it to take rounds

  • @ezekiel_jabez
    @ezekiel_jabez 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the tips, its so hard to find genuine info on how to get better at playing Lili! I just made it to vanquisher on tekken and I feel like doubling down on fundamentals are really the only way to get any better to climb any higher. You can totally say no, but I was wondering if you ever do sparring matches or anything like that? I would love to have some matches and learn more from you if that is something you would be open to. If not, thanks for the tips anyway.

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад

      heres my steam code im down to run some games 108490095

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад

      just reply here and let me know u added me bc a lot of bots add me

    • @ezekiel_jabez
      @ezekiel_jabez 7 месяцев назад

      @@nobacktalk just sent an invite under krispykokujin. I have tekken 8 on ps5 but i think we can make rooms to play

  • @adrianlara5045
    @adrianlara5045 6 месяцев назад

    Hope you make more videos

  • @WakeUpUniverse66
    @WakeUpUniverse66 6 месяцев назад

    What character has the best fundies? i dont want to memorize combos longer than 3 buttons.

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  6 месяцев назад +1

      youre gonna have to learn combos, its just a basic part of tekken

  • @pfceagle5163
    @pfceagle5163 2 месяца назад

    OMG dude condition them, read the timing, they fall for it, watch what they are doing, blah blah blah. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO THINK IN A ROUND OF 60 SECONDS WHEN THE OPPONENT IS BREATHING DOWN MY NECK. MY MIND IS A ROBOT WITH THIS SMALL TIMEFRAME AND PRESSURE. WE NEED GENERIC PLANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @MrRyobinDelta
    @MrRyobinDelta 2 месяца назад

    👏🤴

  • @booce6969
    @booce6969 6 месяцев назад

    what are Lili's best move to realign with besides jab?

  • @tama409
    @tama409 7 месяцев назад

    you should make a vid on her BT game

  • @Alisoarrogant
    @Alisoarrogant 4 месяца назад

    Who else you use

  • @Matislavio
    @Matislavio 4 месяца назад

    I spent idiotically tons of time to find what to do after df3. And you're telling me I could just step?!

  • @Kuromichi08
    @Kuromichi08 5 месяцев назад

    Are you using an Arcade stick? I find it so hard to dew glide on an arcade stick

  • @almaz6423
    @almaz6423 7 месяцев назад

    Moreeee plss ❤

  • @hootowl905
    @hootowl905 5 месяцев назад

    Can you please do a lili combo guide using keyboard?

  • @hyldenchampchamp498
    @hyldenchampchamp498 7 месяцев назад

    I met a Feng player who when pressured would always just go on the defensive and kept waiting for me to screw up. He won in the end. How should you react if your opponent always resorts to turtling as soon as they are minus and they're really disciplined at that?

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад

      grabs, d1,2, ff4, backturn into d2 or 1+2 mixup. get your frames and if they're really doing nothing, keep using your moves. how are you 'screwing up'? are you using punishable moves? are you whiffing?

    • @alan133
      @alan133 6 месяцев назад

      d3. d1,2b for BT pressure. qcf3+4 get more frames. Steal turns with d1,2/ss etc.
      Aside from that, learn the matchup too. Feng has a lot of bullshit and setups (his df1 is 0 on block and his shoulder is launchable for example)

    • @hyldenchampchamp498
      @hyldenchampchamp498 6 месяцев назад

      thanks for the help, guys. I've gotten better since I wrote this.

  • @juliusescoto5413
    @juliusescoto5413 6 месяцев назад

    can you make a guide in movements? I kinda suck at it

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  6 месяцев назад

      i wanna make some more advanced guides, theres a lot of good movement guides out there tho

  • @FameKyo
    @FameKyo 7 месяцев назад

    OMG Caitlyn wtf are you doing here

  • @scotteh6352
    @scotteh6352 7 месяцев назад

    Any chance of a TOTAL noob guide? This is my first Tekken game and I've picked Lili. I've made it to orange ranks literally with throws and down 1 2 mixup but I still have no idea what I'm doing. Most guides just say "do these moves" but they don't really teach any sort of gameplan.

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад

      Idk if i will make more vids but i’d start by focusing on your defense: blocking, ten frame punish, whiff punishing, and ducking strings. by doing this, you can feel like you have earned your wins by solidly countering your opponent and not just hoping they mess up

    • @AftermathRV
      @AftermathRV 7 месяцев назад

      PiratekingFla made a good beginner guide, beginner combo guide, and even an intermediate guide, going over teh most important moves and use cases , aside from blocking , 10f 12f and 14f punish, and whiff punish, a big lili skill is also poking , because you have forward 4 and down 3(unsafe on block) as well as other moves to help with long range pressure!

  • @TikTakTony69
    @TikTakTony69 7 месяцев назад

    Sorry bro im stealing the fit

  • @chacazulo1987
    @chacazulo1987 6 месяцев назад

    Dude, qudans lost the game vs knee’s Lili because he didn’t know the matchup. The second time they played again, knee lost with Lili. She wasn’t hard to figure out. Lili’s gotten better in tekken 8, but not top tier.

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  6 месяцев назад +1

      yep knee lost a game, char sucks

  • @nobacktalk
    @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад +1

    first

  • @emmanuelmartindale8309
    @emmanuelmartindale8309 4 месяца назад

    Is that caitlyn custom? Lol hood one

  • @Crimsonyte21
    @Crimsonyte21 7 месяцев назад

    DUDE HOW DID YOU MAKE CAITLYN!!!! Did you use mods?

  • @idontknow._.4791
    @idontknow._.4791 6 месяцев назад

    CAIT SKIN

  • @mfbandit7930
    @mfbandit7930 7 месяцев назад +1

    ok but how do i beat this character man

    • @nobacktalk
      @nobacktalk  7 месяцев назад +1

      Back up and step crouch at range

    • @mfbandit7930
      @mfbandit7930 7 месяцев назад

      @@nobacktalk thanks

  • @aziersin
    @aziersin 5 месяцев назад

    d1,2 is dogsht move

  • @jleg1104
    @jleg1104 6 месяцев назад

    Stop saying, “uhhh” please

  • @lightnin6503
    @lightnin6503 6 месяцев назад

    is that a Caitlyn from league of legends skin? XD

  • @LOKIMAN07
    @LOKIMAN07 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video