This might be my favorite episode. Not very action-filled or loud; just a simple, quiet journey of Morpheus trying to understand human life through a human and another Endless.
I think it makes sense that Hob isn't a billionaire. He's not the brightest person in the world, he's more into living in the moment rather than planning his life and buying land and etc.
Hob himself says that even though he learns from his mistakes, he just can't help but repeating them. There's also the question of would being a powerful billionaire satisfy Hob ? He already knows what being rich and influencial feels like. But he's the kind of person that strikes me as being satisfied having just enough money to always live in comfort (and even a bit of luxury) in his day to day life, but not needing more. It's not about the power money gives him, it's about having enough to afford and enjoy whatever new experience life has to offer.
He could've accumulated sufficient wealth without flaunting it, since he wouldn't want to draw too much attention. And perhaps having lived several lifetimes he probably grew to understand the real value of money, ie. time, which he already possessed
@@catmanyo after he became poor and another hundred years went by he said he salted money here and there meaning he spread some money around the world, so he is pretty wealthy
Look at history, every empire that rises is bound to fall, wars happening etc,. You are only waiting for your luck to run out until something happens, be it floods, eartquackes or else.. even the earth will die and the sun.
The sandman is not supposed to be a whole arc , it is an anthology series even in the comics the stories in the stories itself and the Morpheus is just a host of the dreaming going along with the stories
Yeah that was quite Jarring in the middle of the season cuz episode 5 felt like a finale. They should have released in arcs like Arcane or Stranger Things
The point of The Sandman is the philosophy behind it. You're supposed to put your mind to work, it won't always hand you "the lesson" at the end. Whatever you learned from the episode, that's the lesson haha
@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 But it's true though. Some people nowadays are so used to the same boring formula (thanks to Marvel movies) that they can't process something that doesn't follow that formula.
I think the point of this episode is: in the first part, it's trying to say that maybe death isn't as scary as most people think. That maybe death is a friendly face and when it comes, we should embrace it the same way we embrace life. And for the second part, maybe it's trying to say that there's so much to live for. That even if the first part is about embracing death, we should continue living our lives to the fullest and see the many reasons to live. It's just ironic that Death in this episode is so warm and so full of life. Meanwhile, Dream is just sad, lonely and confused. Maybe because most of our dreams are dead haha.
words cannot describe how much I loved this episode. It could've been a movie and I'd buy tickets in bulk. See it multiple times and show it to as many people as possible.
'Sound of Her Wings' is in many ways an epilogue to the sort of "arc" that happens in episodes 1-5. Dream has to sit with the fact that he's completed his quest and feels empty about it. He had 100 years to sit and think about being free and getting his tools back, but now it's all over. Death has to remind him of his true purpose. Sandman as a whole is much more of an anthology series, but the show has done a pretty solid job of finding a way to have an overall arc while still maintaining the anthology aspect.
I always took it to mean that Dream isn't so much confused about mortals as removed from them at this point in his existence and he just can't relate to their brief lives and trivial concerns. As Death says, she went through something similar at some point when she didn't see her connection to sentient beings and started struggling with her duties until she figured it out, and Dream tells her that thanks to her he learned something he had forgotten, so he already knew it at some point and over the millennia he just got caught up in his duties and became aloof, which I'd assume is a risk for all the Endless given their eternal nature. I mean, we already saw that 10,000 years ago he had a human lover that's now trapped in Hell, so at some point he was in fact more involved with mortals and even now he has moments where he shows compassion and empathy, like when he chose not to punish John Dee by killing him because he decided the Ruby drove him mad and it wasn't his fault because he simply was a mortal that couldn't handle the Ruby's power.
Death talking to the baby kills me. My interpretation was that while the babbling was never given subtitles, Death understood the baby and we can infer what the baby was trying to say. Did you all get that impression while watching the scene?
@@jholmes553 "You get what anybody gets - you get a lifetime." That's what Death says in reply to an immortal person who died from a construction site. The baby got the short end of the same deal but that's all of us get, a single lifetime.
Neil's writings are phenomenal, they keep your mind moving for a while. I remember after reading "The Ocean at the end of Lane", I sat there for a couple of minutes with "What the F just happened?" then crying cause it was so good and moving. Then I spent like two days having it on my mind and what it meant. It's absolutely brilliant.
I love that in the comics, Hobb Started another regular get together with other immortals. Having tea with super villains like The Shade and Vandal Savage. It would make sense that if you live long enough, you’re bound to run into a few others.
This is perfectly described by Death's choices in this episode. Purposefully tasting an apple, touching everything around her, taking her shoes off to ground herself. It contrasts Dream's distant and reluctant approach to interacting with humanity. So good 💜
The Shakespeare plot does indeed come back later. The next issue featuring him, "A Midsummer Night's Dream", was the first comic to win the World Fantasy Award, and some people got so pissed about a comic winning that they changed the rules so it couldn't happen again. :)
Dream runs a kingdom. He has to delegate a lot of the process to his creations, and a lot of the direct interactions with humanity is done by the dreams and nightmares he created to do the task. And he does it for everyone every time they are dreaming. He's basically a manager, and is very busy with the work. His sister can spend a bit of time with each person, and really make the effort to connect. People dream far more often than they die. It's a matter of time and scale of the job that they do.
When Jaby talks about how he judges the actress by looks. I think of the Seinfeld line said by Elaine “ Just when i think you cant get any shallower you drain alittle more out of the pond”
What on earth? He didn't judge her....just complimented her which is exactly what a lot of ppl do, if not everyone. Just cuz you don't fancy her or think she's attractive (maybe cuz she is black 😒), doesn't mean you get to judge/condemn his reactions. She IS freaking gorgeous and did a great performance. So Chill!
Jaby, not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but I remember when you were watching the first episode and commenting afterwards, you spoke about the fact it would be cool if dreams captivity and its effect on the waking world, had some basis in reality historically. Historically there actually was a sleeping sickness called Encephalitis Lethargica first written about in 1917 which affected people all over the world ........ the factual cause of which was never actually discovered, but a cure of sorts was eventually discovered many decades later and is the subject of the movie Awakenings, starring Robin Williams and Robert De Niro.
I think Dream knows humans in an intellectual level but Death knows humans on a personal level. Also dreams here are more his creations rather than manifestations of our subconscious.
To answer Jaby's question about why Dream doesn't understand humans better than Death is told to him in the episode. Dream felt like people should serve Him and humans are lower than gods. Death told him that as the gods they are, they should serve the people instead. They should not view themselves better than humans due to humans shorter lives.
This is probably the most satisfying and emotional episode i have seen so far from this show. This episode depicts the most beautiful rendition of death that i have ever seen in any TV shows or books for that matter.
I believe the feeling of unsatisfactory comes from typical storytelling 3 act structure. We as an audience get used to the mindset that every story needs a low, a high and an end. That's a simplistic way of thinking of life from our limited, immediate human expectations. I see that as a positive since it gives people the tools to fill the gaps with their own input. It's up to all of us and I love it when writers enable viewers to be autonomous
When you mention how Hob has witnessed that progression, obviously this episode was so emotional for so many reasons but that is what has stuck with me the longest. It must have been just incredible to watch all of that over time!
My favourite sandman episode. I like the way it kickstarts Morpheus' (slight) character development. Hob is such a good character too! Very good episode
What a writer that allows his readers/watchers to come to their own understandings, rather then wrapping everything up in a pretty bow? If I were a writer I would hold that as a high compliment.
This. I hate television/movies that feel they need to spoon feed you all the answers. Though I will say that whenever a really good, intelligent piece of writing occurs, people complain that it’s vague, or they expected a different ending etc., so it’s possible the writers feel that have to dumb things down for their customer base.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Agreed, but how is the audience going to learn if we only get dumbed down stories. My peeve is when folks complain about how the stories don't follow what they had been dreaming-up in their heads so the actual story is bad. Go write your story, and let yourself enjoy what the actual writer came up with. p.s. Though I'm not happy with the 'Westworld' final. So close to perfect, but took a frustrating turn. I still respect the writers work though.
U skipped showing the reaction to the best part where dream apologizes and admits friendship with hob and hobs reaction. Such a beautiful storyline def a fave ep of the show. The dichotomy of death and the beautiful way they represent it and death itself as an entity is such a refreshing take. And as dark as it is there's a beauty to it
As I understand, the Endless exist to serve humans, and Dream has been doing his job, while remaining detached from the humans he serves. He remains an outsider (like Dr. Manhattan in Watchmen, in the beginning), without trying to empathize with the humans, because he is, for all practical purposes completely different to them, and being beyond human concerns and limitations. Death, on the other hand, deals with the very human raw emotion of fear (of death), on a daily basis, and ends up becoming more human (or at least learns to appreciate the depth of emotion, and the importance of her purpose). The other Endless (Desire, mostly, supported by Delirium and Despair), are also involved with humans, but treat them as inferior, and to be toyed with, thus creating friction with Dream. That said, Dream is not completely aloof all the time - his story arc with Nada shows that he occasionally gets involved emotionally with humans, but after that incident, consciously avoids getting involved with humans beyond his role. His imprisonment, escape, interaction with John Dee and Hob Gadling all serve the purpose of showing him evolving into a being that is learning to relate to humans, and learning to deal with the all-too-human existential crisis he is facing (at the beginning of the episode), by examining his purpose and relationships.
Death once decided that she would live as a human being one day per year. She doesn't experience humans through dreams: she lives and breathes alongside them while Dream stays mostly in his own realm due to his sense of betrayal and heartache after his romances with at least one mortal woman. One thing about the immortal guy, to answer Gaby's question: Dream did recommend him to lay low in order not to be noticed. After his rich life, he did lose his family and then the villagers noticed his supernatural youth and lifespan; even Lady Constantine picked up their trail. Would it then really be wise to become the world's richest and/or most powerful man on Earth during eras when people were extremely superstitious about almost everything!?! Thanks for yet another cool reaction vid, and for your questions and observations, guys!
If I'm not mistaken the guy that meets Dream every 100 years mentioned that even thought he learned from past experiences he keeps making the same mistakes. That might be the reason he is no rich.
I love that this episode is about life and death. One character experience all deaths and the other lives forever, and both being happy even in the face of misery and depression. I guess your situation is what you make it.
Regarding 19:41 , as it was portrayed, he never wanted wealth or power. He just wanted to live and enjoy life and it's experiences. What I think it really meant is whether joy or sorrow, live your life to your fullest as nothing is permanent. And if you get a companion or friends during that cherish it. That's the secret. He had one friend even in eternity. He would never give up on life.
This is my favorite episode of the series so far, I've already watched the entire season. Every episode is great. Familiar with source material but this one is special.
In the light novel/anime series "Baccano", there's a phrase that gets shown once, I think as a chapter title. It goes something like, "Those who live forever and those who don't love life equally." In that series, there are people who attained immortality and came to think of it as a curse, but being mortal wouldn't have made them any happier. There are also people who become immortal and, like Hob Gadling here, just live their lives through the ups and downs. And then there's Isaac and Miria who became immortal and didn't even realize it for decades.
I don't know. For me this is the best episode of the series because it is fascinating to watch Dream experience Death's journey and at the end satisfying to see him welcome the friendship he actually needs.
Death isnt an Angel or Reaper she is literally the entity Death, she guides recently departed souls to the Sunless lands their is already an Archangel of Death called Azrael who reaps and frees soul from the body. The Endless are basically cousins to the Angels but they were not created unlike them.
Also I think that Hob Gadling didnt amass massive wealth and Power after the forst 200 years because he chose not to. He chose to live and experience in the moment. Also i think he's quite wealthy cause he just bought the pub ans build a new one next to it. There is a later story too about a girl sailor and a mysterious encounter where we meet Hob Gadling again and apparently he's a big time merchant. So he probably is quite wealthy just not in a political/ mafia kinda way.
I believe the problem some people may have with Neil Gaiman stories is, at its core, he is working towards breaking down myths and showing they are essentially as human and flawed as anyone else. When people come to his work expecting the grandiose and ambition you see on anime or other shows dealing with mythology it is not there neither meant to be. It is essentially deconstruction. All the characters are just like us despite the powers and positions they had. It is a common theme through his work. I personally like and find it more meaningful. It is usually what attracts or repels people from his work but you can't demand things from an artist that he never intended on his work.
John Dee was a reference to a man believed to be a magician, who worked for Elizabeth I in the 1500s. His name sometimes appears in fiction, in much the same way as Nicolas Flamel (sorcerer's stone)
Hob was jealous of Dream's interest in Shakespeare. He knows that no matter how excited he gets about the little things in life, Dream thinks he is shallow and interests paltry. He knows he would be more interested in Bill Shaxberd. Hob is right and Dream is wrong though, it's the little things in life that make it worth living.
Dream sees people as things in a story - he is the "Prince of Stories" after all. Also the unconscious is a lot harder to interpret than conscious actions, I think Death empathizes more than Dream because she sees that everyone suffers the same fate, it is more concrete and it's always terrible... everyone struggles to accept, and she has to be there for them. Dream doesn't go through this as a deep experience, the dreams of others for him are just stories. Also take into account Death has been around a lot longer, and she went through a "fed up" phase as well
Ditto Hob and Dream's interactions are in my top 5 moments/scenes from this show. There's just something marvelous and pure about the multi-century friendship that develops, and Hob's character is great.
@@twilitetide Hob Gadling was one of my favourite minor characters in the comics and they did an outstanding job of this adaptation. This wasn't his final appearance in the comics so I'm hoping we'll see him again before the series is over.
Men of Good Fortune was such a wild and out of left field kind of story I was not expecting them to include it in the show. And while yes this is an anthology type series there are threads that tie different things together. For example,near the beginning of the series Dream tells the 3 Fates that he knew of a Constantine a few hundred years ago and this episode reveals another Johanna Constantine was who he was talking about. Both here and in the comics Dream mentions the faeries leaving Earth and he cuts a deal with William Shakespeare and a few issues later we see a sort of continuation of those threads in A Midsummer Night’s Dream. I’m only at episode 6 atm so I’m curious to see if they’ll show us Midsummer Night’s Dream
How could *anyone* not be 'satisfied' by this episode? It was the best of the season, imo. Someone (clearly) did not 'get this'. CLUE: She is fucking brilliant! Not just source material, she's got a great handle on the human experience as a whole. She has a way of embracing and expressing the abstract into something tangible - these complex, yet explainable ideas and themes! Again, just fucking brilliantly and emotionally savvy. 🤗
This is honestly one of the best episodes of tv of all time. The whole episode could’ve been just about Dream traveling and talking with Death while she is guiding souls to the afterlife. I mean first the scene with her guiding the old man, letting him say the Shema prayer made me tear up right away, and I’m not even Jewish. But then they show us the story of Hob Gadling and I could NOT take my eyes off the screen for a second. I’ve been on the side that thinks immortality for mortals is a curse, that over time your moral compass would break, you would look at other mortals as just insects, and your own sense of humanity (your soul, spirit, chi, ka, whatever you want to call it) would crumble away into dust. But Hob Gadling is a truly exceptional man for living as long as he had and not become either a power hungry psychopath or just an outright piece of crap. Yes he veered off the path and was involved briefly in the slave trade, but Morpheus managed to show him the error of his ways. Hob is the embodiment of looking at the bright side! And Hob had an effect on Morpheus because after spending so much time with Hob he actually did come to care for him. And in the end Dream finally admitted that he and Hob were friends.
could not disagree more about Gaiman stories not being satisfying, or not having much meaning or purpose...and Jaby saying "no, they won't" about whether they'll explore more of the Shakespeare story indicates a clear bias...you had no reason to assume they won't (and yes, they will). if you don't get the point of this episode, idk what to tell you... Sandman is all about *change* more than anything else. it's the central theme; that change is necessary and inevitable, and we shouldn't fear it. a lot of the story is about Morpheus's (ironic) resistance to change (despite being the lord of a realm without a static reality). in this episode, his views on life, humanity, and himself, changed. he learned that he does actually need companionship. he learned from his sister and her interactions with humanity. that first half also had other themes along the same lines; viewing death as just the next phase. a big change, but not one to fear idk how someone could find Gaiman stories unsatisfying...
The prodigal is referring to Destruction ( One of the endless ) and he left the family in the comic since human is already capable of destructing so that's why he left
Death exists in the world and deals directly with people's lives while Dream tends to stay in his realm and remain aloof, using his tools and creations as intermediaries to avoid dealing with dreaming minds directly because otherwise he'd be overwhelmed by all the thoughts and emotions, like an empath who's so sensitive to everyone around them that they become a bit of a shut in and seem more stoic on the outside. The meaning of the episode to me is twofold (understandably so since it's combining two entirely different issues of the comic that came out months apart, but the show does a brilliant job of elegantly weaving them together to juxtapose them both). To sum it up in the simplest terms, death isn't so bad...but life is pretty damn good, too! I'm a bit biased because Death and Hob are my two favorite characters from the comic, but this is my favorite episode of the entire series! Oh, and Hob says at a couple of points in later centuries that he's put money away all over the world in case he needs to get away quickly, but he's also learned the value of living a quiet life and not drawing too much attention since his neighbors turned on him the last time he got careless and stuck around in one place too long. I also think he rather enjoys the simple pleasures and doesn't have much time for "power" or living a wealthy lifestyle (again, he's learned how temporary and futile such living can be. The Queen slept in his house, but it didn't impress his friend or stop him from losing everything and having to live in the streets within a century). I also got the implication that he'd bought/built the new pub we see at the end, specifically so Dream would hopefully be able to find him, so he is using his money for something other than building ships (and erroneously funding the evils done with them, ahem) these days.
They actually showed this better in series in comics you didn't quite understand that Dream missed his meeting and Hob was sitting there every day for years(!) waiting for him. In the book it was just another meeting and you didn't quite get that it was different from any other times they have met in the past. Dream was captured in 1916 so that would mean Hob waited at least 30 years probably more. Pretty loyal friend.
Actually, in first episode guard is reading Sun dated 5/26/2021 when Dream gets out. Taking into consideration he would need time to take his things in hands before he meets Death for a walk Hob has waited for him for 33 years. Pretty symbolic.
It's funny that Hob think the Queen of England sleeping at his home was a big highlight. Since every one hundred years, he get to hang out with a cosmic entity
This was my single favorite episode of the show so far. Hob is my favorite character from the comics, and his story is just... amazing. I'm _honestly_ on the same page as him. Death's a mug's game. Look, I'm not someone of grand ambition, my ambition really comes down to enjoying the experience of life and doing the best that I can in the world. So, that's why I see myself as on the same wavelength as Hob. If I could make a deal to meet with Dream every century, I'd happily take it XD I'm really happy that they incorporated his story into the story of Dream's meeting with Death. Otherwise, it wouldn't have made it into the first season of the show, and I am so happy to have two of my favorite vignettes together in one episode. That's really the core of Sandman... there's very little continuous story, just... vignettes and cohesive arcs. It's one of the very nice things about the story, in my opinion. And, ultimately, _yes_... it _is_ the experience that is the most important thing in a Gaiman story most often. He doesn't necessarily write to create a perfect narrative, I feel, he writes to communicate what (in his opinion) is a fundamental truth. In his Masterclass (which is quite worth taking in), he talks about how authors use lies to tell their audiences true things. Not that he sees himself as someone with a firm hand on the true nature of the world, and the owner of deep, hidden truths, but he has beliefs and views that he builds his stories around in order to communicate those ideas. If the story reaches a "traditional" endpoint that people are trained to register as "satisfying," that is all well and good, but it is never the fundamental goal of the story. The goal is to communicate the idea he was working with. If you want some Gaiman stories that hit very well on that "unsettling" note, you really should read (or listen to on Audible) his collection of short stories "Fragile Things." It is very unsettling, but in the most enjoyable ways that I've come across. It isn't grotesque, but it is... eerie and, yes, unsettling.
There is something quite touching about this weird friendship. Yes, this was a good episode. I haven't really read many of Neil Gaiman's works, but his Death seems to be somewhat similar to DEATH in Terry Pratchett's Discworld series, minus the love of cats and the empathy, and speaking like an ordinary person, oh, and the sex... Hmm, maybe they are not that similar after all. I should read these again.
17:00 - Point of the episode is to show how being captive changed Dream. He was an arrogant, almost tyrant Endless, but being held captive for a century changed his views on a lot of things.
To answer Jaby's question on why would Dream not understand humans more than Death, The Endless are lords of their concept as well as the opposite of it. Like Destruction is to creation and Despair is to hope, Death is to life. She pretty much understands more of people living.
Recently Gaiman shared what Hobs was doing when Dream comes into the New Inn. Hobs is a history teacher. The difference between the vampire stories and hob is the humanity. Vampires are so limited in their enjoyment of immortality. Humans can change and grow and experience everything.
Death spends most her time in the waking world, where most of the others have their own kingdoms they spend their time in, like Dream spends most of his time in the Dream world.
1. Worth noting that in the comics, Death wasn't always as sympathetic as she is in the present. Gaiman actually did a miniseries (I think it's "Death: The High Cost of Living") where we find out how she becomes the sympathetic person we see here. Interestingly, in the issue about Hob, we meet the "before" version of Death. I wonder if they will readapt that part of the story and put it into the series elsewhere, or if they get to spin Death into her own series. 2. Also worth noting that the comics ran from 1989 to 1995, so their "present" was 1989, and Dream was not late for his meeting with Hob. Moving the present to 2022 gave them a chance to see how Dream missing the meeting made Hob feel. My own head canon about this new reality is that Hob did help finance the move of the inn to it's new location, but that he wasn't there all the time, just the same day every year when they are supposed to meet up. And speaking to why Hob isn't a billionaire, we saw a version of that in 1589. You have to be pretty rich to host the Queen, so Hob was definitely the 1% of that age, and then he lost it all. I don't know if Gaiman intended to address the issue, but being very rich would make it hard to disappear and come back as your own child. We hear that Hob was accused of performing witchcraft, and the 1789 meeting slightly speaks to the idea that people have a memory of these once a century meetings. I suspect that Hob worked out how much money/valuables he needed to save up, and just moved it from bank to bank or house to house, instead of trying to build something so large that he would have to hang around to manage it.
17:50 While I don't personally understand it, some people have a need for resolution, and I think that's what that person was getting at with their comment. Ultimately, I think The Sandman is less about plot structure and 3 act stories, etc. and more about being with these characters as they go through the story. The events ultimately don't matter, but the way those events impact the characters does. It's like some people are predisposed to not seeing the forest for the trees, I guess.
The purpose of this Episode was to show the personal growth of Morpheus as he witnesses Death in action and through the camaraderie that he developed with Robert overtime.
*I was waiting for this episode. P.S. - I am not being a grammar police, I am simply correcting you so that you could use it correctly from next time onwards.
From what I interpreted, death has more experience with life working with people personally, whereas dream is only involved with people in their dreams and nightmares telling them stories, while death knows the human passion and emotions while involving with human life and death situation and this is what Dream is trying to figure out with the project of 100 years. That's what I think. Love you guys ❤️
19:50 Jaby, I think the point of him living a more humble life at the end is because he realised that accumulating huge amounts of wealth is not important. He's lived for centuries and he's seen what excess does to a person.
Hey Jaby ... Still waiting for "Love, Death and Robots" reaction. S2 and 3! Also, remember to enjoy the show without trying to find meaning behind every episode
I’m a big Sandman and Neil Gaiman fan… and much of his work is about the power of stories (and dreams, and mythology) and it’s often not very linear. Parts of it can be, parts of it are just an interesting tale. Both halves of this ep are about life and death and what mortality means. It won’t necessarily work for everyone, but I find his style really compelling. FWIW, the back half of the season is a bit more of a connected arc.
Death understands ppl better because death wanders and interacts with humans, living humans in the waking world. Dream generally stays in his dreaming and does not interact with the living unless he has to
although i agree with jaby about how this episode seems kind of separate, i think it still carries on the themes from previous ones, especially episode 5. I JUST LOVE how right after the darkest, most twisted episode of television i've ever seen (the diner), we then see the most wholesome one. It kinda has the same tone/message of the previous episode in which no matter how dark/twisted humanity can be, there is always hope that things will get better (which is one of the main theme in the hell episode)
Jaby, Death has been with humans all along... She gives the breath of life when you're born and takes you when you die. So i think she'd understand humans more than dream would.
This might be my favorite episode. Not very action-filled or loud; just a simple, quiet journey of Morpheus trying to understand human life through a human and another Endless.
I think it makes sense that Hob isn't a billionaire. He's not the brightest person in the world, he's more into living in the moment rather than planning his life and buying land and etc.
Hob himself says that even though he learns from his mistakes, he just can't help but repeating them.
There's also the question of would being a powerful billionaire satisfy Hob ? He already knows what being rich and influencial feels like. But he's the kind of person that strikes me as being satisfied having just enough money to always live in comfort (and even a bit of luxury) in his day to day life, but not needing more.
It's not about the power money gives him, it's about having enough to afford and enjoy whatever new experience life has to offer.
He could've accumulated sufficient wealth without flaunting it, since he wouldn't want to draw too much attention. And perhaps having lived several lifetimes he probably grew to understand the real value of money, ie. time, which he already possessed
Good take, it felt that's what the character had learned.
@@catmanyo after he became poor and another hundred years went by he said he salted money here and there meaning he spread some money around the world, so he is pretty wealthy
Look at history, every empire that rises is bound to fall, wars happening etc,. You are only waiting for your luck to run out until something happens, be it floods, eartquackes or else.. even the earth will die and the sun.
The sandman is not supposed to be a whole arc , it is an anthology series even in the comics the stories in the stories itself and the Morpheus is just a host of the dreaming going along with the stories
I dislike how people say Morpheus himself is side character in his own show when they don't know the writing and plot of the show
ohhhhh i get it now
Yeah that was quite Jarring in the middle of the season cuz episode 5 felt like a finale. They should have released in arcs like Arcane or Stranger Things
@@atharvature2109 bc it he is a side character...
There is a “main” plot though, you could also say that it is a study of the title character.
This is by far the most thought-provoking show I have ever seen......Sensational writing.
Oh according to some Idiots The Story is "RUINED" due to minor changes from the comic like switching John to Joana Constantine..RUINED!!!! Idiots...
If you love the show, give the books a try. The writing is exactly the same, and you can read the whole story right now from beginning to end.
The point of The Sandman is the philosophy behind it. You're supposed to put your mind to work, it won't always hand you "the lesson" at the end. Whatever you learned from the episode, that's the lesson haha
That's an adorable cope out...."it was the friends along the away" blah
@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 But it's true though. Some people nowadays are so used to the same boring formula (thanks to Marvel movies) that they can't process something that doesn't follow that formula.
@@erikperhs_ that's fair.
@@erikperhs_ MCU has made audiences lazy
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Nah, not all of them. I still understood the lesson of The Sandman despite being an MCU fan as well as other movies.
I think the point of this episode is: in the first part, it's trying to say that maybe death isn't as scary as most people think. That maybe death is a friendly face and when it comes, we should embrace it the same way we embrace life. And for the second part, maybe it's trying to say that there's so much to live for. That even if the first part is about embracing death, we should continue living our lives to the fullest and see the many reasons to live.
It's just ironic that Death in this episode is so warm and so full of life. Meanwhile, Dream is just sad, lonely and confused. Maybe because most of our dreams are dead haha.
Terrible self defeating take.....a reflection of the authors emo music choices
@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 Shut up bot
@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 your the one with a terrible take, people here clearly disagrees with you.
@@JayStorm199 thats not how that works....the author him self has been saying this for decades
Some cultures never taught Death to be a scary thing. Its a natural part of life.
words cannot describe how much I loved this episode. It could've been a movie and I'd buy tickets in bulk. See it multiple times and show it to as many people as possible.
Agree! So beautiful
'Sound of Her Wings' is in many ways an epilogue to the sort of "arc" that happens in episodes 1-5. Dream has to sit with the fact that he's completed his quest and feels empty about it. He had 100 years to sit and think about being free and getting his tools back, but now it's all over. Death has to remind him of his true purpose. Sandman as a whole is much more of an anthology series, but the show has done a pretty solid job of finding a way to have an overall arc while still maintaining the anthology aspect.
I always took it to mean that Dream isn't so much confused about mortals as removed from them at this point in his existence and he just can't relate to their brief lives and trivial concerns. As Death says, she went through something similar at some point when she didn't see her connection to sentient beings and started struggling with her duties until she figured it out, and Dream tells her that thanks to her he learned something he had forgotten, so he already knew it at some point and over the millennia he just got caught up in his duties and became aloof, which I'd assume is a risk for all the Endless given their eternal nature. I mean, we already saw that 10,000 years ago he had a human lover that's now trapped in Hell, so at some point he was in fact more involved with mortals and even now he has moments where he shows compassion and empathy, like when he chose not to punish John Dee by killing him because he decided the Ruby drove him mad and it wasn't his fault because he simply was a mortal that couldn't handle the Ruby's power.
Kind boring to see it, and endless being caring is the human projecting. They wouldn't care.
@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 No.
@@ArvindRajAgnosticAtheist yes.
@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 No.
@@goodoldfashionedloverboyy ok
Death talking to the baby kills me. My interpretation was that while the babbling was never given subtitles, Death understood the baby and we can infer what the baby was trying to say. Did you all get that impression while watching the scene?
In the comic, the baby's words are written out (some of what Death says here is adapted from the baby's dialogue).
Just watching the show not having read the comics I definitely feel that she understood the baby. F****** broke my heart...
What the baby was saying to Death: "But... is that all there is? Is that all I get?"
@@BrokenNoah If that is the case, the comic version would be more brutal and heart-breaking. Feck. 😭
@@jholmes553 "You get what anybody gets - you get a lifetime." That's what Death says in reply to an immortal person who died from a construction site. The baby got the short end of the same deal but that's all of us get, a single lifetime.
Neil's writings are phenomenal, they keep your mind moving for a while. I remember after reading "The Ocean at the end of Lane", I sat there for a couple of minutes with "What the F just happened?" then crying cause it was so good and moving. Then I spent like two days having it on my mind and what it meant. It's absolutely brilliant.
I love that in the comics, Hobb Started another regular get together with other immortals. Having tea with super villains like The Shade and Vandal Savage. It would make sense that if you live long enough, you’re bound to run into a few others.
As a longtime fan of the original series, I think this episode is the best one and the most succesful at capturing the magic of the comics. :)
Dream doesn't have an understanding of humans because he chose not to. He was aloof and placed himself above humans.
This is perfectly described by Death's choices in this episode. Purposefully tasting an apple, touching everything around her, taking her shoes off to ground herself. It contrasts Dream's distant and reluctant approach to interacting with humanity. So good 💜
@@liamkampff1 Dream main trait is proud and emo lol
The Shakespeare plot does indeed come back later. The next issue featuring him, "A Midsummer Night's Dream", was the first comic to win the World Fantasy Award, and some people got so pissed about a comic winning that they changed the rules so it couldn't happen again. :)
Tfyi!
This is the most beautiful episode 😍. I cried with lots of satisfaction.
Dream runs a kingdom. He has to delegate a lot of the process to his creations, and a lot of the direct interactions with humanity is done by the dreams and nightmares he created to do the task. And he does it for everyone every time they are dreaming. He's basically a manager, and is very busy with the work. His sister can spend a bit of time with each person, and really make the effort to connect. People dream far more often than they die. It's a matter of time and scale of the job that they do.
one of the best episodes on tv this year 😊
This was a beautifully emotional episode.
Yes. Best drwho episode in years.
definitely
When Jaby talks about how he judges the actress by looks. I think of the Seinfeld line said by Elaine “ Just when i think you cant get any shallower you drain alittle more out of the pond”
The first thing we judge when meeting people are looks
@@raven1436 yes but we don’t usually make it the only thing and this is a film reaction site not a dating app
What on earth?
He didn't judge her....just complimented her which is exactly what a lot of ppl do, if not everyone.
Just cuz you don't fancy her or think she's attractive (maybe cuz she is black 😒), doesn't mean you get to judge/condemn his reactions.
She IS freaking gorgeous and did a great performance. So Chill!
Jaby, not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but I remember when you were watching the first episode and commenting afterwards, you spoke about the fact it would be cool if dreams captivity and its effect on the waking world, had some basis in reality historically.
Historically there actually was a sleeping sickness called Encephalitis Lethargica first written about in 1917 which affected people all over the world ........ the factual cause of which was never actually discovered, but a cure of sorts was eventually discovered many decades later and is the subject of the movie Awakenings, starring Robin Williams and Robert De Niro.
I think Dream knows humans in an intellectual level but Death knows humans on a personal level. Also dreams here are more his creations rather than manifestations of our subconscious.
To answer Jaby's question about why Dream doesn't understand humans better than Death is told to him in the episode. Dream felt like people should serve Him and humans are lower than gods. Death told him that as the gods they are, they should serve the people instead. They should not view themselves better than humans due to humans shorter lives.
This is probably the most satisfying and emotional episode i have seen so far from this show. This episode depicts the most beautiful rendition of death that i have ever seen in any TV shows or books for that matter.
Literally and figuratively, yes.
I believe the feeling of unsatisfactory comes from typical storytelling 3 act structure. We as an audience get used to the mindset that every story needs a low, a high and an end. That's a simplistic way of thinking of life from our limited, immediate human expectations. I see that as a positive since it gives people the tools to fill the gaps with their own input. It's up to all of us and I love it when writers enable viewers to be autonomous
When you mention how Hob has witnessed that progression, obviously this episode was so emotional for so many reasons but that is what has stuck with me the longest. It must have been just incredible to watch all of that over time!
My favourite sandman episode. I like the way it kickstarts Morpheus' (slight) character development. Hob is such a good character too! Very good episode
What a writer that allows his readers/watchers to come to their own understandings, rather then wrapping everything up in a pretty bow? If I were a writer I would hold that as a high compliment.
This. I hate television/movies that feel they need to spoon feed you all the answers.
Though I will say that whenever a really good, intelligent piece of writing occurs, people complain that it’s vague, or they expected a different ending etc., so it’s possible the writers feel that have to dumb things down for their customer base.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Agreed, but how is the audience going to learn if we only get dumbed down stories. My peeve is when folks complain about how the stories don't follow what they had been dreaming-up in their heads so the actual story is bad. Go write your story, and let yourself enjoy what the actual writer came up with.
p.s. Though I'm not happy with the 'Westworld' final. So close to perfect, but took a frustrating turn. I still respect the writers work though.
U skipped showing the reaction to the best part where dream apologizes and admits friendship with hob and hobs reaction. Such a beautiful storyline def a fave ep of the show. The dichotomy of death and the beautiful way they represent it and death itself as an entity is such a refreshing take. And as dark as it is there's a beauty to it
Finally it's here...was Waiting for this reaction ❤️
As I understand, the Endless exist to serve humans, and Dream has been doing his job, while remaining detached from the humans he serves. He remains an outsider (like Dr. Manhattan in Watchmen, in the beginning), without trying to empathize with the humans, because he is, for all practical purposes completely different to them, and being beyond human concerns and limitations. Death, on the other hand, deals with the very human raw emotion of fear (of death), on a daily basis, and ends up becoming more human (or at least learns to appreciate the depth of emotion, and the importance of her purpose). The other Endless (Desire, mostly, supported by Delirium and Despair), are also involved with humans, but treat them as inferior, and to be toyed with, thus creating friction with Dream.
That said, Dream is not completely aloof all the time - his story arc with Nada shows that he occasionally gets involved emotionally with humans, but after that incident, consciously avoids getting involved with humans beyond his role. His imprisonment, escape, interaction with John Dee and Hob Gadling all serve the purpose of showing him evolving into a being that is learning to relate to humans, and learning to deal with the all-too-human existential crisis he is facing (at the beginning of the episode), by examining his purpose and relationships.
Death once decided that she would live as a human being one day per year. She doesn't experience humans through dreams: she lives and breathes alongside them while Dream stays mostly in his own realm due to his sense of betrayal and heartache after his romances with at least one mortal woman.
One thing about the immortal guy, to answer Gaby's question: Dream did recommend him to lay low in order not to be noticed. After his rich life, he did lose his family and then the villagers noticed his supernatural youth and lifespan; even Lady Constantine picked up their trail. Would it then really be wise to become the world's richest and/or most powerful man on Earth during eras when people were extremely superstitious about almost everything!?!
Thanks for yet another cool reaction vid, and for your questions and observations, guys!
If I'm not mistaken the guy that meets Dream every 100 years mentioned that even thought he learned from past experiences he keeps making the same mistakes. That might be the reason he is no rich.
I think he's lived long enough to learn that wealth doesn't equal happiness in life. He has enough to live well and LIVE.
@@breebree9319 Thank you for that. Agree 💯
My fav ep of the series. The two stories were a perfect bookend.
I love that this episode is about life and death. One character experience all deaths and the other lives forever, and both being happy even in the face of misery and depression. I guess your situation is what you make it.
Regarding 19:41 , as it was portrayed, he never wanted wealth or power. He just wanted to live and enjoy life and it's experiences. What I think it really meant is whether joy or sorrow, live your life to your fullest as nothing is permanent. And if you get a companion or friends during that cherish it. That's the secret. He had one friend even in eternity. He would never give up on life.
This is my favorite episode of the series so far, I've already watched the entire season. Every episode is great. Familiar with source material but this one is special.
In the light novel/anime series "Baccano", there's a phrase that gets shown once, I think as a chapter title. It goes something like, "Those who live forever and those who don't love life equally." In that series, there are people who attained immortality and came to think of it as a curse, but being mortal wouldn't have made them any happier. There are also people who become immortal and, like Hob Gadling here, just live their lives through the ups and downs.
And then there's Isaac and Miria who became immortal and didn't even realize it for decades.
Acquiring wealth is one story
Sustaining it and increasing it is completely another
Yo this episode was absolutely F'ing SICK.
I actually think that's some of the best screenplay I've seen for a loonngg time 👌
Ive been waiting so long for you guys to react to this episode!
I don't know. For me this is the best episode of the series because it is fascinating to watch Dream experience Death's journey and at the end satisfying to see him welcome the friendship he actually needs.
Death isnt an Angel or Reaper she is literally the entity Death, she guides recently departed souls to the Sunless lands their is already an Archangel of Death called Azrael who reaps and frees soul from the body. The Endless are basically cousins to the Angels but they were not created unlike them.
Also I think that Hob Gadling didnt amass massive wealth and Power after the forst 200 years because he chose not to. He chose to live and experience in the moment. Also i think he's quite wealthy cause he just bought the pub ans build a new one next to it.
There is a later story too about a girl sailor and a mysterious encounter where we meet Hob Gadling again and apparently he's a big time merchant. So he probably is quite wealthy just not in a political/ mafia kinda way.
This was such a beautiful episode. Like man 😭😍
I believe the problem some people may have with Neil Gaiman stories is, at its core, he is working towards breaking down myths and showing they are essentially as human and flawed as anyone else.
When people come to his work expecting the grandiose and ambition you see on anime or other shows dealing with mythology it is not there neither meant to be.
It is essentially deconstruction.
All the characters are just like us despite the powers and positions they had. It is a common theme through his work.
I personally like and find it more meaningful.
It is usually what attracts or repels people from his work but you can't demand things from an artist that he never intended on his work.
John Dee was a reference to a man believed to be a magician, who worked for Elizabeth I in the 1500s. His name sometimes appears in fiction, in much the same way as Nicolas Flamel (sorcerer's stone)
This episode was wow...every episode teach you something and so good...
I love that this episode is just as great as the two issues its based on
Thinking that dreams are just random data is a VERY narrow way of thinking about them. They are so much more than that.
I loved this episode more than other.
Hob was jealous of Dream's interest in Shakespeare. He knows that no matter how excited he gets about the little things in life, Dream thinks he is shallow and interests paltry. He knows he would be more interested in Bill Shaxberd. Hob is right and Dream is wrong though, it's the little things in life that make it worth living.
Dream sees people as things in a story - he is the "Prince of Stories" after all.
Also the unconscious is a lot harder to interpret than conscious actions, I think Death empathizes more than Dream because she sees that everyone suffers the same fate, it is more concrete and it's always terrible... everyone struggles to accept, and she has to be there for them. Dream doesn't go through this as a deep experience, the dreams of others for him are just stories.
Also take into account Death has been around a lot longer, and she went through a "fed up" phase as well
This was a good season but Hob Gadling’s story was very much the highlight. In my opinion anyway.
Ditto Hob and Dream's interactions are in my top 5 moments/scenes from this show. There's just something marvelous and pure about the multi-century friendship that develops, and Hob's character is great.
@@twilitetide Hob Gadling was one of my favourite minor characters in the comics and they did an outstanding job of this adaptation. This wasn't his final appearance in the comics so I'm hoping we'll see him again before the series is over.
Agree
Men of Good Fortune was such a wild and out of left field kind of story I was not expecting them to include it in the show. And while yes this is an anthology type series there are threads that tie different things together. For example,near the beginning of the series Dream tells the 3 Fates that he knew of a Constantine a few hundred years ago and this episode reveals another Johanna Constantine was who he was talking about. Both here and in the comics Dream mentions the faeries leaving Earth and he cuts a deal with William Shakespeare and a few issues later we see a sort of continuation of those threads in A Midsummer Night’s Dream. I’m only at episode 6 atm so I’m curious to see if they’ll show us Midsummer Night’s Dream
How could *anyone* not be 'satisfied' by this episode? It was the best of the season, imo.
Someone (clearly) did not 'get this'.
CLUE: She is fucking brilliant! Not just source material, she's got a great handle on the human experience as a whole. She has a way of embracing and expressing the abstract into something tangible - these complex, yet explainable ideas and themes!
Again, just fucking brilliantly and emotionally savvy. 🤗
My favorite episode, loved how they did it all
This is honestly one of the best episodes of tv of all time. The whole episode could’ve been just about Dream traveling and talking with Death while she is guiding souls to the afterlife. I mean first the scene with her guiding the old man, letting him say the Shema prayer made me tear up right away, and I’m not even Jewish. But then they show us the story of Hob Gadling and I could NOT take my eyes off the screen for a second.
I’ve been on the side that thinks immortality for mortals is a curse, that over time your moral compass would break, you would look at other mortals as just insects, and your own sense of humanity (your soul, spirit, chi, ka, whatever you want to call it) would crumble away into dust. But Hob Gadling is a truly exceptional man for living as long as he had and not become either a power hungry psychopath or just an outright piece of crap. Yes he veered off the path and was involved briefly in the slave trade, but Morpheus managed to show him the error of his ways. Hob is the embodiment of looking at the bright side! And Hob had an effect on Morpheus because after spending so much time with Hob he actually did come to care for him. And in the end Dream finally admitted that he and Hob were friends.
could not disagree more about Gaiman stories not being satisfying, or not having much meaning or purpose...and Jaby saying "no, they won't" about whether they'll explore more of the Shakespeare story indicates a clear bias...you had no reason to assume they won't (and yes, they will).
if you don't get the point of this episode, idk what to tell you...
Sandman is all about *change* more than anything else. it's the central theme; that change is necessary and inevitable, and we shouldn't fear it. a lot of the story is about Morpheus's (ironic) resistance to change (despite being the lord of a realm without a static reality). in this episode, his views on life, humanity, and himself, changed. he learned that he does actually need companionship. he learned from his sister and her interactions with humanity. that first half also had other themes along the same lines; viewing death as just the next phase. a big change, but not one to fear
idk how someone could find Gaiman stories unsatisfying...
This is my favorite episode of the whole series.
The prodigal is referring to Destruction ( One of the endless ) and he left the family in the comic since human is already capable of destructing so that's why he left
Death exists in the world and deals directly with people's lives while Dream tends to stay in his realm and remain aloof, using his tools and creations as intermediaries to avoid dealing with dreaming minds directly because otherwise he'd be overwhelmed by all the thoughts and emotions, like an empath who's so sensitive to everyone around them that they become a bit of a shut in and seem more stoic on the outside.
The meaning of the episode to me is twofold (understandably so since it's combining two entirely different issues of the comic that came out months apart, but the show does a brilliant job of elegantly weaving them together to juxtapose them both). To sum it up in the simplest terms, death isn't so bad...but life is pretty damn good, too! I'm a bit biased because Death and Hob are my two favorite characters from the comic, but this is my favorite episode of the entire series!
Oh, and Hob says at a couple of points in later centuries that he's put money away all over the world in case he needs to get away quickly, but he's also learned the value of living a quiet life and not drawing too much attention since his neighbors turned on him the last time he got careless and stuck around in one place too long. I also think he rather enjoys the simple pleasures and doesn't have much time for "power" or living a wealthy lifestyle (again, he's learned how temporary and futile such living can be. The Queen slept in his house, but it didn't impress his friend or stop him from losing everything and having to live in the streets within a century). I also got the implication that he'd bought/built the new pub we see at the end, specifically so Dream would hopefully be able to find him, so he is using his money for something other than building ships (and erroneously funding the evils done with them, ahem) these days.
They actually showed this better in series in comics you didn't quite understand that Dream missed his meeting and Hob was sitting there every day for years(!) waiting for him. In the book it was just another meeting and you didn't quite get that it was different from any other times they have met in the past. Dream was captured in 1916 so that would mean Hob waited at least 30 years probably more. Pretty loyal friend.
Actually, in first episode guard is reading Sun dated 5/26/2021 when Dream gets out. Taking into consideration he would need time to take his things in hands before he meets Death for a walk Hob has waited for him for 33 years. Pretty symbolic.
Yeah Death picked the right person not to visit for a while. She knew he was an eternal optimist.
It's funny that Hob think the Queen of England sleeping at his home was a big highlight. Since every one hundred years, he get to hang out with a cosmic entity
This is my favourite episode of the series shame you had to cut so much on the reaction we missed the best bits
I was so waiting for this story,I loved death and that immortal man
This was my single favorite episode of the show so far. Hob is my favorite character from the comics, and his story is just... amazing. I'm _honestly_ on the same page as him. Death's a mug's game. Look, I'm not someone of grand ambition, my ambition really comes down to enjoying the experience of life and doing the best that I can in the world. So, that's why I see myself as on the same wavelength as Hob. If I could make a deal to meet with Dream every century, I'd happily take it XD I'm really happy that they incorporated his story into the story of Dream's meeting with Death. Otherwise, it wouldn't have made it into the first season of the show, and I am so happy to have two of my favorite vignettes together in one episode. That's really the core of Sandman... there's very little continuous story, just... vignettes and cohesive arcs. It's one of the very nice things about the story, in my opinion.
And, ultimately, _yes_... it _is_ the experience that is the most important thing in a Gaiman story most often. He doesn't necessarily write to create a perfect narrative, I feel, he writes to communicate what (in his opinion) is a fundamental truth. In his Masterclass (which is quite worth taking in), he talks about how authors use lies to tell their audiences true things. Not that he sees himself as someone with a firm hand on the true nature of the world, and the owner of deep, hidden truths, but he has beliefs and views that he builds his stories around in order to communicate those ideas. If the story reaches a "traditional" endpoint that people are trained to register as "satisfying," that is all well and good, but it is never the fundamental goal of the story. The goal is to communicate the idea he was working with.
If you want some Gaiman stories that hit very well on that "unsettling" note, you really should read (or listen to on Audible) his collection of short stories "Fragile Things." It is very unsettling, but in the most enjoyable ways that I've come across. It isn't grotesque, but it is... eerie and, yes, unsettling.
For those interested, Hob Gadling was played by Ferdinand Kingsley, son of the actor Ben Kingsley.
Mug's game: an activity that is a waste of one's time, energy, or resources. Primarily heard in UK. This my favourite episode, along with #9
There is something quite touching about this weird friendship. Yes, this was a good episode. I haven't really read many of Neil Gaiman's works, but his Death seems to be somewhat similar to DEATH in Terry Pratchett's Discworld series, minus the love of cats and the empathy, and speaking like an ordinary person, oh, and the sex... Hmm, maybe they are not that similar after all. I should read these again.
The Sandman isn't always straightforward linear story telling. But more like adventures in humanity that all connect due to Dream.
He probably is very rich but knows enough you don't draw a lot of attention to yourself. If you are immortal you don't want everyone to know
Hell yes I was waiting for you to see this one please continue to keep up with the great work brother as I like to say you are cold as hell yo 😎🥶❤️
17:00 - Point of the episode is to show how being captive changed Dream. He was an arrogant, almost tyrant Endless, but being held captive for a century changed his views on a lot of things.
To answer Jaby's question on why would Dream not understand humans more than Death, The Endless are lords of their concept as well as the opposite of it. Like Destruction is to creation and Despair is to hope, Death is to life. She pretty much understands more of people living.
Recently Gaiman shared what Hobs was doing when Dream comes into the New Inn. Hobs is a history teacher.
The difference between the vampire stories and hob is the humanity. Vampires are so limited in their enjoyment of immortality. Humans can change and grow and experience everything.
Death spends most her time in the waking world, where most of the others have their own kingdoms they spend their time in, like Dream spends most of his time in the Dream world.
1. Worth noting that in the comics, Death wasn't always as sympathetic as she is in the present. Gaiman actually did a miniseries (I think it's "Death: The High Cost of Living") where we find out how she becomes the sympathetic person we see here. Interestingly, in the issue about Hob, we meet the "before" version of Death. I wonder if they will readapt that part of the story and put it into the series elsewhere, or if they get to spin Death into her own series.
2. Also worth noting that the comics ran from 1989 to 1995, so their "present" was 1989, and Dream was not late for his meeting with Hob. Moving the present to 2022 gave them a chance to see how Dream missing the meeting made Hob feel.
My own head canon about this new reality is that Hob did help finance the move of the inn to it's new location, but that he wasn't there all the time, just the same day every year when they are supposed to meet up. And speaking to why Hob isn't a billionaire, we saw a version of that in 1589. You have to be pretty rich to host the Queen, so Hob was definitely the 1% of that age, and then he lost it all. I don't know if Gaiman intended to address the issue, but being very rich would make it hard to disappear and come back as your own child. We hear that Hob was accused of performing witchcraft, and the 1789 meeting slightly speaks to the idea that people have a memory of these once a century meetings. I suspect that Hob worked out how much money/valuables he needed to save up, and just moved it from bank to bank or house to house, instead of trying to build something so large that he would have to hang around to manage it.
17:50 While I don't personally understand it, some people have a need for resolution, and I think that's what that person was getting at with their comment. Ultimately, I think The Sandman is less about plot structure and 3 act stories, etc. and more about being with these characters as they go through the story. The events ultimately don't matter, but the way those events impact the characters does. It's like some people are predisposed to not seeing the forest for the trees, I guess.
One of my favorite episodes
17:10 Sounds like the points all went over your head
3:09 is the original comic book reference said by Death
Desire song great addition to Sandman
Grate introduction to Desire character
I cried watching this episode...i Don't know why
" cream stick " made my day 🤣
Really early!! Totally worth it. This episode is perfect ✨
The purpose of this Episode was to show the personal growth of Morpheus as he witnesses Death in action and through the camaraderie that he developed with Robert overtime.
Amazing episode
I am waiting this episode
*I was waiting for this episode.
P.S. - I am not being a grammar police, I am simply correcting you so that you could use it correctly from next time onwards.
U r finally showing up on my feed 💪🏾
From what I interpreted, death has more experience with life working with people personally, whereas dream is only involved with people in their dreams and nightmares telling them stories, while death knows the human passion and emotions while involving with human life and death situation and this is what Dream is trying to figure out with the project of 100 years.
That's what I think.
Love you guys ❤️
19:50 Jaby, I think the point of him living a more humble life at the end is because he realised that accumulating huge amounts of wealth is not important. He's lived for centuries and he's seen what excess does to a person.
Hey Jaby ... Still waiting for "Love, Death and Robots" reaction. S2 and 3! Also, remember to enjoy the show without trying to find meaning behind every episode
I’m a big Sandman and Neil Gaiman fan… and much of his work is about the power of stories (and dreams, and mythology) and it’s often not very linear. Parts of it can be, parts of it are just an interesting tale. Both halves of this ep are about life and death and what mortality means. It won’t necessarily work for everyone, but I find his style really compelling. FWIW, the back half of the season is a bit more of a connected arc.
Death understands ppl better because death wanders and interacts with humans, living humans in the waking world. Dream generally stays in his dreaming and does not interact with the living unless he has to
Thats one of the better episodes and I like how they put them on the same episode as deaths parts
although i agree with jaby about how this episode seems kind of separate, i think it still carries on the themes from previous ones, especially episode 5. I JUST LOVE how right after the darkest, most twisted episode of television i've ever seen (the diner), we then see the most wholesome one. It kinda has the same tone/message of the previous episode in which no matter how dark/twisted humanity can be, there is always hope that things will get better (which is one of the main theme in the hell episode)
Jaby, Death has been with humans all along... She gives the breath of life when you're born and takes you when you die. So i think she'd understand humans more than dream would.
Was waiting for this episode