Huge shout-out to PapaSmurf918, I was in his livestream when the team mentioned that the new Seal N Shine was out, check out Smurf's channel here if you haven't seen his detailing reviews, he's putting out some awesome content: ruclips.net/channel/UCigTU54-70pjPdKqnP6Boog Shout-out to ONR Detailing News as well for getting the news out to everyone of the update, Turtle Wax let this one slide underneath the radar so I was not aware any update was on the way, check out ONR's channel here: ruclips.net/channel/UC14887mDbipJELcmU1ke8fg I grabbed this new Seal N Shine at Advance Auto the other day for $12, the new formula will have the Improved Formula yellow tag on the top of the label. Let me know what you guys think down below, and what are your favorite products that you like to use to maintain Seal N Shine? I still prefer ICE Spray Wax for maintenance on top, but I would love to hear what products are working for you!
i have 3 bottles use one. nothing last forever every product need to be re-apply normal i wash mi corsa twice a week use some sort of protection. but now when was the hot wax or orginal wax and i used to much man was so hard to remove was like a battle i learn to use small drops .other day made a mistake of not remove direct than felt as little stones after 2 or 3 times wipe it start to smooth but i am happy.today go to coin wash after first rinse put some drops over the body rinse again oh easy to dry.i am happy
I find an excellent combo to use is the Turtle Wax seal n shine topped with Bead maker. Both are polymer sealants, both under $10.00 a winning combo. 😎🐢🇨🇦
OHHHH C’MON!!! Haha!! First I had to buy ICE Spray Wax, then Seal & Shine, and then HS Ceramic Coating, and NOW I have to buy another bottle of Seal & Shine?!?!?!?!?!?
Seal N Shine and Ice Spray Wax will get you a long way. I'd run that combination until you run out of Seal N Shine, then switch over to the HS Ceramic Spray Coating and pick up Ceramic Wet Wax for maintenance. Great combos that get the job done. Don't fall into the trap like me and grabbing everything that comes out, I'm an addict with a serious problem!
John, I am in the same situation. I tried other wax and then went with ICE Spray Wax, which was great. I then started using the HS Ceramic Coating Wax which I don't like the effort it takes to apply and wipe off. The HS Ceramic Coating Wax leaves a haze which I use a damp cloth to wipe off. I am going to get the new formula of ICE Spray Wax and Detailer.
I think TW upgraded SNS, to stay king of the hill. SNS became the benchmark against what all other sealants and I've seen coatings as well are tested against. TW has a huge reputation to protect, they want to be the leader, not among the leaders, or a fast follower. Keep on eye on TW, I'm sure there's more great things to come.
Dude!!! Yes! Fantastic video. The new version for sure seems to be more chemically resistant!!! I enjoyed your thoughts on this stuff and I'll be picking some up and having some fun!!! Oh and thank you for joining my livestream man! ✊✊ hope to see you in the next one!!! I'm going to get this new seal n shine😁
I have 6 new bottles of TW Seal and Shine 1.0 in my basement hahaha! Thanks for this video, it's cool to see Turtle Wax reading what people like us are saying and improving their products.
Yeah I felt a lot of guys would be surprised because I knew many were hoarding this up when it was selling for dirt cheap! If you end up trying the new version out, let me know if you see any difference in the performance on your cars compared to the first formula.
@@WaxMode I absolutely will. If anything, I'll apply one of each to each side of the car, and just see after a few months how each is holding up. But like you said, application is so important. I personally stay away from damp towels to remove the high spots. Even though they are unsightly, I find that any moisture will really impact the longevity of this, and prefer to just wait a few days then wash the car which knocks down the high spots and still gives me a proper cure. Sandro from Car Craft Detailing found the same thing in his testing in regards to moisture during the cure cycle affecting it's performance. It's hard to tell if that level of chemical resistance is for show, or if we'll get say another 1-3 months of protection out of it. The time is more important than chemical resistance to me, since I don't really drive in any conditions that warrant needing that, and if I did I'd go ceramic coating all the way lol
Great companies don't rest on their laurels. And Turtle Wax just proved again how great a company they are. They are consumer conscious which again is demonstrated by the value pricing of their products. Fabulous
I agree Kyle! Outstanding value and performance for the pricing that they're offering these products at. Really a breath of fresh air after seeing many sio2 spray protectants selling for the $35 range for 500ml.
I would like to see a comparison video between this newly improved TW Ice Seal N Shine vs. TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating. C'mon there are a few detailers here. 😊
I've been wanting to see this as well, I guess waiting was a good thing since there's now the updated version. I've used the original version and couldn't be happier with it👍👍
I’ve graduated to the TW ceramic and love it. I started with the original Ice and now use ceramic and now I’m wondering what I’m missing with this stuff. 🤔
Ok so it is true! I will have to try it out. I think a refresh is fine at this point with all the SIO2 craze right now. Looks like another winner. I like that you explained how to prevent streaking because people just don’t understand what 1 Spray means.
I'm going to laugh if I find out the only difference is the scent, and it's my shelf life on the original bottle that's making up the difference in performance with the Strip Down test. Haha could you imagine! I like the refresh, the smell was the weirdest thing about the original Seal N Shine when I first got my hands on it because they just carried over that fragrance from the Express Shine Carnauba Spray Cleaner Spray Wax, instead of putting their ICE spin on it from the beginning, so I like this grape style smell better. What I'm not sure about is the extent of the SiO2 content, because if I'm not mistaken, the bottles that they sent up to the Canadian market listed SiO2 on the front of those with the first formula. And I can't remember if Turtle Wax touched on that topic at the Test Drive event. You'll have to let me know what you think if you pick this new one up.
WaxMode That would be funny man! I don’t remember if they mentioned that or not at the event. I have tried finding this new version and no one here has it in stock yet.
Just an FYI for people - I just received my Seal N Shine from Amazon and it’s still the old version of Seal N Shine and it’s almost 1.5 yrs since this video….crazy!! Today’s date 10/17/21 GREAT VIDEO 👍🏼
Thanks again Waxmode for another terrific video! Thank God they changed the scent. Some people were throwing it away just because it smelled like 1970s bug spray. The new resistance is really great. Nobody can deny that. You said chemical resistance properties is not the be all end all for you. I agree. However, I know your be all end all is hydrophobics/beading. For me, it’s how the car looks and so far, I still like the look Hybrid Solutions Spray Coating and Wet Wax are giving me. I have put many coats of Wet Wax on my car and 4 coats of Spray Coating in maybe 3 months. Incredibly, the car seems to get a little deeper and darker every time I put either one of the Hybrid Solutions waxes on it. I have a Ruby Red 2018 Mustang and it looks the best it’s ever looked with these Hybrid Solutions products. I don’t give either one of the Hybrid Solutions products time enough to find out how durable they are. I wash my car every 3 to 4 days with Optimum No Rinse and wax while I dry with Wet Wax every time. I may try the new Seal N Shine some time in the future though since I won’t need a gas mask to use it! LOL! Thanks again for the demo of the new SNS.
Appreciate the comment as always Robert! That Ruby Red looks absolutely insane, every time my neighbor pulls his Mustang out to wash it I'm just in awe of that gloss and how much it pops in the sun. There are a lot of guys on the detailing forums that are loving the Ceramic Spray Coating and Ceramic Wet Wax combo, Turtle Wax did a great job on that duo. I'm digging the new scent for Seal N Shine, I was a bit disappointed to see they carried over the scent from the Express Shine Spray Wax on the first formula of Seal N Shine when I first got my hands on it, and so I think this change was a needed one to better align the spray sealant with the rest of the ICE lineup.
Awsome man!! some great in-depth knowledge of the product...I never thought of the "heaviness" of products, I didn't know what to call it, but it makes so much sense. I need to call you and chat man,..I learn a lot from your"Sherlock" approach.
Man, I’ll let the super hydrophobic claim slide just because the product delivers everywhere else. Seems like a great bang for buck protectant. You just can’t hate turtlewax, they seem to really want to make something good for the consumer and not take the piss. Granted, this is not the type of product that I’m personally interested in, but I’d definitely recommend it to friends who aren’t crazy bead addicts like myself and just want a great value, long lasting and chemical resistant protectant that’s relatively easy to apply. Keep the product news comin’!👍🏼
Exactly Andres, I’ll let them slide on that one, superhydrophobic is water beading that has above a 150 degree contact angle, and no detailing product comes close to that so far. I agree with you, it’s an easy to recommend valued-based protectant that a lot of people will enjoy.
WaxMode Yeah, I doubt we have the tech yet to make consumer-grade products that have such ridiculously high surface tension without sacrificing the surface being clear and glossy. The only way that I know of to get to those numbers is to texture the surface. I’d like to start seeing maintenance toppers that can make 120* beads. That would be THE gamechanger for me. I don’t even care if it only lasts a few weeks.
Hi Waxmode. When i had my first bottle of seal and shine last year, i applied it heavy, like u did at the end of this video on a black civic. And of course the streaking was so bad to the point of embarrassing me when i park the car under full mid day sunlight. The streaking was that horrible, even after i try to level it out with a damp almost dripping wet towel. But...i have to say protection wise, this product is absolutely beast and god like, almost on par with the protection that fusso coat provide, which for me is the best for a non coating category. Not to mention the price point, i bet no one in this world will ever consider this stuff expensive. For the looks of this product, i found out that on the first application, it will disappoint u, because it will streak and made the paint look a lil bit foggy on dark paint, and there's just nothing u can do to make it look better. But once u drive the car couple of days, after the product fully cured by sunlight, and especially after the first car wash, then the shine and gloss of this product on the panel will finally make u smile. And not to mention it bead and sheet water like crazy when i wash the car. After using and trying lots of detailing products, i've come to a conclusion that, if a product is hard to apply or tends to streak badly after wipe off, then most of the time the product will last long on the panel/protect longer, and the easier a product to apply or wipe off, then usually it will degrade/faded quicker on the panel. Just like seal and shine, sonax BSD is another product that streak badly, but hv a great protection and crazy water behavior. While some boutique wax like the pinnacle souveran, is just super duper fun and super effortless to apply and wipe off perfectly clean everytime, but maybe will vanish completely from the panel after just 2 or 3 car wash with a dedicated ph neutral car soap. I find that most of the meguiars product, provide the win win solution, relative easy application and wipe off, while still have some decent protection and durability on the panel.
Great comment JE2F! You're right, eventually that streaking will level out. Brilliant Shine Detailer is absolutely insane, the performance on top of the coatings is unreal. We've been getting absolutely blasted with rain and the rain itself will practically wash the paint clean, crazy beading. I'm loving the Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic lineup, Hybrid Ceramic Detailer is such a good product, one of my new favorites.
Ok...sooo for those of us who won't be spending 6 hours doing a paint correction polish - a couple of hours with a thorough washing/claybar and providing the paint is reasonably prepped - (as a weekend driveway warrior) i see (and use) S&S as a terrific 1-step product that even with the (what? 15-20 minute damp towel wipe-down finish) provides a terrific final or base coat for future wax applications. As stated (and as with most ALL TW products) a little can go a very long way. I feel that when applied and used properly this product offers a value and protection/shine to time spent ratio that at the very least most serious amateur detailers will find very hard to beat. Thx.
@Casper Gomez hah! Yep...we all suffer at some point! But...go with what ya like. I bought into the new TW Hybrid Ceramic system this Spring. Once over with the polish and 3 coats of the SiO2 spray over several weeks. FAB-U-LOUS! easy to work gloss is off the meter and holding tough. I have a Tornado red GTI - looks boss.
@@audieconrad8995 I'm with you. I tried the Seal and Shine and the Turtle Wax Hybrid Ceramic; both perform to my satisfaction and since I'm not detailing to the N'th degree, that's all I require.
Seal N Shine (the first formula) has had better chemical resistance when fresh compared to the Ceramic Spray Coating in my tests. I still like the Hybrid Solutions line, difficult to get a gauge on if there's a significant advantage in long term protection with the sio2 blends in the Ceramic Spray Coating compared to the blends in Seal N Shine, despite the spray coating not having quite the same hydrophobic resistance after a chemical dumping.
Dave, I tried other wax and then went with ICE Spray Wax, which was great. I then started using the HS Ceramic Coating Wax which I don't like the effort it takes to apply and wipe off. The HS Ceramic Coating Wax leaves a haze which I use a damp cloth to wipe off. (Hard to wipe off after applying) I am going to get the new formula of ICE Spray Wax and Detailer.(Easy to wipe off after applying)
Great video and review, totally agree with application method. Didn’t really see a reason to add to the old formula. Either way decent consumer product for a fair price ,thanks again .
Own original version. Impressed with chemical resistance but like a product that has some visual pop and that applies easier (for me, it was viscous and draggy on application and buff off).
I believe they reformulated it based on the original's popularity. It was an absolute home run for the company and Seal n Shine has had somewhat of a cult following on RUclips and with your mainstream consumer's who love to detail their vehicles as a hobby like myself. Even though TW said Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray coating was supposed to be the much improved version of Seal n Shine, they figured why not listen to what the consumers complained about (scent) and make it better and even more durable than before to continue its cult following and its popularity. I actually believe that with a 2 application method with a 24 hour cure for each application of both New Seal n Shine and TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray coating they are going to have identical chemical resistance with the Hybrid solutions having better gloss readings. Heck Seal n shine might even end up stronger in the end! And for 12$ its the same price as Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray which i don't understand. I actually believe that Walmart will sell it for under 10$.
@@platinumautoglasswindowtin88Calling it Streak and shine is half speed. You must have a dark colored car. Mine is white pearl. No streaking here. Just literally 4 months of FULL SPEED protection and water sheeting after about 2 months. Excellent product. I have hybrid solutions ceramic spray coating but haven't used it yet. Soft99 Fusso coat is going on next week. I'll keep you posted but even though it's a lot harder to work with than the spray sealants I'm used to, I think it will be worth it with its extremely hydrophobic characteristics which im really look for and excited to test as im taking a 1200 mile trip back home to deep south Texas and that relentless heat sun trying to break it down!
Tried the original version and like you, I don’t enjoy using products that Seal n Streak. If TW had addressed that problem with the new formula, I’d give it another shot.
I think that heaviness of Seal N Shine has a lot to do with just how aggressive it is when combating aggressive chemicals and cleaners. I would guess that if they were able to get the blend to a point to where it's wiping off super cleanly without the potential for streaking, we wouldn't be seeing the same type of chemical resistance properties out of it. Appreciate your feedback JD!
WaxMode is right. When I contacted TW they said to use a damp microfiber to get rid of it. I tried it and they were right. To get durability, increased chemical levels are required. For me the trade off is worth it. If I had been in TW shoes I would have made the same decision.
They're definitely putting out some very competitive products for awesome prices! Even the new Hybrid Solutions line is down to around $12 for the spray coating.
On a black Equinox, Seal and Shine actually "hazed" then finish. It almost look foggy in the inspection lights. 3D One, and Megs Ultimate left DA haze, but Menzerna 2500, and 3500 both finished beautifully though. Great video, Loach!
Thanks so much Dan, good to hear from you as always! I can definitely see Seal N Shine reducing the finish a bit on polished paint, it's very difficult to wipe it cleanly even when using it sparingly without that damp microfiber assist. The gloss measurements do bump up considerably after the damp microfiber wipe or after the wash with Reset. I was at 96.0GU after polishing with Sonax Perfect Finish and the Prep-All panel wipe, then Seal N Shine brought us down to the 94.3GU range, and then washing with Reset brought the numbers back up to 95.8GU.
I agree with other comments that Seal N Shine is a good consumer level product that is cheap and lasts a long time. Most of my customers really value appearance and Seal N Shine is below average in the appearance category plus it attracts dust in windy environments. I find that it won’t release dust even while driving. For detailers it’s a decent product to use on wheels when a customer doesn’t want to pay for a true Si02 wheel coating because it applies quickly and has excellent resistance to road film, snow melt and harsh chemicals.
Just purchased this improved version at Walmart for $9.59. Have been using the regular version and have been really happy with the results. Can't wait to give this new version a try. Oh, I heard that this improved version has UVA protection in it!
Hmmm.....I wonder if Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating isn't selling as well as they hoped, so they took a proven huge seller with established performance and decided to "add SiO2" to it to get the desired outcome (i.e. "sales") that they hoped for with HS Ceramic Spray Coating?
Turtle Wax did mention at the Test Drive event that they are going to continue to come out with improvements on their products, and by updating Seal N Shine this quickly, this shows me that they mean business. Even on a product that I would assume is selling well, they're not afraid to make quick adjustments and change up the scent which was one of the biggest complaints that I heard, and even slightly change the blend to provide even better performance. I'm liking this direction a lot, Seal N Shine has built up its own massive following online, and I think Turtle Wax is catering to this group by making it an even better product. I would be interested to see how well the Hybrid Solutions line is selling, and I would say that a lot of people are not diving into the HS line because Seal N Shine was performing so well for them. But for me, I really like that 3 punch combo out of Ceramic Polish & Wax, Ceramic Spray Coating, and Ceramic Wet Wax. That is a fantastic system that is more attractive to me than Seal N Shine & Ice Spray Wax.
This product has great value. Its less than 10 bucks and performs well enough to stand against products that cost twice or three times as much. Its not the best but you can't beat the value.
Grape laffy taffy.....thank god. I did 3 vehicles with my first bottle and that equated to about 5-6 months here in Port Orange Florida. Recently bought a bottle of Megs ceramic spray to try and really liked the wipe down. Only 2 weeks in so we’ll see how long it lasts, but so far so good especially with all the rain.
Crazy rain recently, which is great because we were in a bit of a drought beforehand. Did you pick up the blue Hybrid Ceramic Wax or the green Ceramic Detailer? Love both of them, but really enjoying the Ceramic Detailer as a maintenance topper.
I got the green detailer just wanted to try it. Watching you,apex, and pan having all the fun 😂 I think I’m gonna try griots 3in1 ceramic on the F-250 and the Jeep next. I loved the BOSS line with an orange pad & my cheap ass harbor freight polisher.
Eat product I have ever used... I just used two coats of the new seal And shine and one coat of the ice wax and let me Tell you guys, it is Super sleek and shine. It has rained the whole Week but the product still perfect
Man what happened to this guy?! Dude was great with his information & I really liked the way he displayed his content. Hope everything’s okay, I would really like to see him come back & talk about the products in today’s time, with what’s out now. It’s been a 2 good years since we’ve seen him post.🤔
After your recommendation, I've been using the green bottle wax&dry as a drying aid which helps significantly (Thanks!). Is the way&dry comparable to the two spray waxes shown in the background of this video? I am sold on the price and ease of use of the wax&dry, and wondering if I should give the spray wax or even the new hybrid solutions wet wax a try when I finish my bottle. I am using hybrid solutions ceramic spray also. Loving the videos man!
Thanks Keith! You will love the Ceramic Wet Wax when you get through with your Wax & Dry bottle, that's what I would recommend grabbing next. A bit more protection and durability left behind compared to Wax & Dry, but still super easy to dry the paint off when using it wet. The Express Shine Carnauba Spray Wax is different than all of these other sprays. It has a bit more cleaners and bit to really cut through lighter oxidation and fading, some stubborn stains as well that the other sprays won't tackle through. Great for a lot of daily drivers for people that don't wash their paint all that often or are heavily involved in detailing. Because of that cleaning ability, I would not use that spray wax as a topper for any of the other products, it would knock them down a bit by using it on top of them. Ice Spray Wax is still one of my favorites for an all around spray maintenance topper for a variety of different products. Very decent durability left behind, easier to work with compared to Seal N Shine. Fantastic smell, but I would say if you're hooked on the Hybrid Solutions line, I would stick with those products instead of grabbing the ICE line. Ceramic Spray Coating paired with Ceramic Wet Wax is the perfect duo to complement each other.
@@WaxMode I couldn't agree more. The Spray Wax and Wax&Dry are very accessible and are so versatile, and I am sure the wet wax is an even better compliment to the Hybrid Ceramic series. Seems like it is only a few bucks more here in Canada
I'm still using the TW wax&dry and it works better then the TW super hard shell i used to wax my car with. The wax & dry smells great and the beads are nice and round it's slick makes me want to touch the car everytime i wash it and i enjoy using that product it's one of the best Drying aids imo and the durability is also good it last longer then my Super hard shell. Too bad i can't find any TW seal & shine down here in South America i love that product. The Express shine also helps me tar and stains off i would say it's the next best thing to the clay bar.
Appreciate the feedback! The CQUK 3.0 section that I ended up topping with Seal N Shine was not quite as hydrophobic as the section that I topped with Bead Maker. I showcase that in my Bead Maker video review at this link here, 7:17 into the vid: ruclips.net/video/WUBpQ1TuU5U/видео.html
Try applying turtle wax ice spray wax on top of seal and shine you'll get them crazy beads and even better performance. They say that it can be done. Pan had them on one of his shows very interesting hearing what they say about these products.
I use the original formula in the sun, and if you do get streaking just use a QD sprayed onto a MF and it glides right off. Also keep shaking the bottle every now and then. The bottle clearly states is, but many reviews don't. The Carnauba and SIO2 needs to mix somehow......
It's a good product but it's only downside is that attracts dust and pollen like crazy I have to rinse my car every other day to get rid of the particles other than that it's a great cheap alternative.
I appreciate the feedback Joaquin, dust attraction can definitely be a problem with different products, some guys have absolutely no problem with dust and others can have a huge issue. I'm wondering if the type of microfiber towel has an impact on this, that can lead to a bit of static building up and attracting dust. Definitely need to do more testing on it.
I still have to try the spray on rinse off application with the new formula, the Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Spray Coating gives some insane hydrophobics as a spray and rinse product, but I still usually like to have a dry application as a foundation coat before using a product after the next wash as a spray and rinse.
Basically stick it on the last week of September winter over with and then the last week of March clean your car again and stick it on again that is your year done great stuff the ceramic is great but nobody has got time or a place to hide a car for 24-hours without it being rained on very difficult but with this spray and shine basically very simple every 6 months whack it on
I like it for easy application to the truck and trailer front fascias. Helps with bug removal which is at its peak now.soak with degreaser and power wash it👍🏻
Next love bug season I'll have to pull it out on the front bumper and keep track of that. My area got crushed by love bugs this year but seems like they moved out pretty quickly. Great tip though, definitely helps to have that chemical resistance when you're using a heavier cleaner for the bugs, I really like Poorboy's World Bug Squash for when I have a ton of bugs to deal with.
There's a newer version than that now with a new upgraded label. I wonder if they changed anything from the yellow sticker new improved version. I have both and mixed them together 🤣 just had 4 ounces of the yellow labeled one so don't think it hurt anything.🤣
Thanks for the video! I've used a MF applicator block to apply this to ensure a light even application. Just curious why you didn't mention this method versus the light spritz and wipe down in your vid?
theReal evo77 that's good idea because I've had nothing but blotchy and streak problems with SnS. But if I'm going to use a MF applicator block then I would just use a far better product like TAC Moonlight or Gyeon Cancoat
Yes even the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating is on the heavier side, not quite as heavy as Seal N Shine but it can definitely streak on some paint. It's been a while since I pulled out DG Aquawax, that reminds me I need to run some gloss testing with that one!
Nice video as always. I am wondering if the heavy residual is there to do some filling on the clear. I will just stick with my Gtechniq C2V3 cut as 50:50 with distilled water as my topper on my CSL/EXO coated car. Don't prefer the fake grape small if it is like the the scent used with Adam;s regular shampoo. I like Reset the best out all the shampoos I used. I used Dr. Beasley's Ceramic body wash , Polish Angel Glasscoat shampoo, Gyeon Bathe Essence , AngelWax Shampoo, Adams Regular, Meguiars Hyperwash and maybe few other.
Thanks Doc! How has your shelf life been with C2V3? It's been a while since I've had this bottle of mine, has to be at least 4 years now since I picked it up and first used it, I last used it around 4 months ago and noticed some slight streaking. I might pull it out with Reload and IGL Premier in a future video. Reset is a great shampoo, love the fresh scent it has, very pleasant to work with. My Gyeon Bathe Essence went bad in the bottle, it's like a really darker amber color now instead of the clear it used to be, I should have been storing it with the pump top closed down. Adam's is one soap that I do want to try out in the future, I'm running low on Reset and still have Hyper-Wash but the Adam's is probably next on the list for me.
Great video excellent information although I would like to know why nobody uses gasoline in the torture test to simulate the overflow when filling a gas tank . And can one layer the new Seal N shine formula over the old seal N shine
Great suggestion! I'll leave it up to the other channels to run the gasoline testing, I wouldn't be able to tolerate the gas smell. You can apply the new Seal N Shine directly on top of the previous formula that's already on the paint.
Interesting you used a gloss meter and saw a decrease in the reading. I've applied the original SNS two weekends in a row last month, and it definitely is lacking that "pop" on the paint to my eye. I am not entirely sure how to describe it, but I don't seem to have the same issue with using ICE spray wax. Good stuff, but looking forward to trying out the hybrid ceramic lineup next, cheers
The gloss jumped back up immediately after the first wash with Reset, but you're right that the immediate readings right after applying it to the paint will read lower compared to the polishing step. That's pretty normal for most products, but Seal N Shine's extra heaviness can possibly be muting the gloss a bit until the wash. I still like Ice Spray Wax after all of these years, it's still a great maintenance product.
I've got Moonlight on most of my customers cars and have been looking at getting Shiny Wax for a topper/maintenance coating. Heard some really good things about it.
Definitely, there seems to be a tradeoff going on between hydrophobics and chemical resistance in the consumer lines. Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic and Mothers CMX will show crazier short term beading and sheeting, but the less hydrophobic Seal N Shine, Hybrid Ceramic Spray Coating, and Griot's Ceramic Wax will definitely edge those out in chemical resistance.
Annoying as I just started using my bottle. Cheap enough I suppose for a great product. Excellent for daily drivers, and takes ages to break down for cars parked outside.
I'm a bit confused as to what TW is doing. The Hybrid Solutions was supposed to be a step up from the Ice line and Seal N Shine and now it looks like they've brought Seal N Shine to the level of their Hyrbrid solutions. So which is better? Why would I use one over the other? It looks like TW is trying to compete against itself and they're blurring the line between their two entirely different product lines. Either way, I love their products and will continue to use the Hybrid solutions but I won't rule out reaching for a bottle of Seal and Shine.
thanks for the vid.. good info. SnS isn't my favorite product either. it's fine. I've used the product and i didn't think it last that long in my environment.. I also found it streaky and wasn't as much gloss pop as other products.. great price though.... did you post the xtreme solutions poly seal vid yet? that's a product I really liked...
Thanks Barry, I haven't posted a video yet for Poly-Seal, still want to run a few more tests with it and Magnum Wax, but it is on the short list of upcoming videos. Hopefully I'll get a video of it out within the next week.
Interesting, I didn’t know it is so streaky. Making me rethink it. I’ll stick to Optimum Sealant for now. I do enjoy TW Wet Wax as a great drying aid, I’d like to know how the hybrid version performs.
Are you working with Opti-Seal? I'm a huge fan of the Opti-Seal style of sealants. Wolfgang Liquid Seal, Blackfire Crystal Seal, Meguiar's Ultimate Fash Finish, McKee's 37 10-Minute Sealant, some of my favorite types of products to work with just based on the way that they atomize onto the paint out of the spray nozzle. Super simple to work with, and they give such a clean wipeoff when buffing them into the paint. Very satisfying products to play around with, they don't have the craziest hydrophobic performance but the ease of use is very high up there and I love to use them after hours of paint correction.
WaxMode Yes Opti-Seal. I realised afterwards, I haven’t been using my detail arsenal in so long with the lockdown, I forgot some of the names! Yeah I have to agree, the performance and super ease of application and wipe off is unmatched by these types of sealants you mention. I love using it on my wheels, exhaust and other nooks and crannies, traditional sealants won’t get to. I’m impressed that I get months of longevity on the wheels, on my daily driver. I must note, I used it as spray and wipe off for a while as they suggested. But once I tried the process of traditional method of massaging it in paintwork, cross hatch, with an applicator like Yvon Lacross once illustrated the performance and hydrophobics have just gone up to full potential. It’s holding up so well now. I use the Optimum Wax as a drying aid, as Yvonne claims it is able to work in synergy and migrate under the Opti-Seal. I like that TW Wet Wax gives that boost to white paint and has no streaking vs Optimum Wax, so I’m keen to try TW Ceramic Spray Wax as my drying aid.
We get hammered by high temperatures here in Florida, a lot of these products do fine against the sun and heat except some of the less durable carnauba based waxes. This chemical resistance test isn't a measure of long term durability, for that I like to get the products on the ungaraged daily drivers and keep track of their performance, exactly as one would use the product in the real world except without the topping maintenance.
@@WaxMode Exactly. I'm living in Cyprus and have my cars parked under the sun for 9 hours daily. I have tried carnauba waxes, gyeon wetcoat, turtle wax hydrophobic wax, collinite 845. The last 2 together on polished car! None of them can last over a month with normal use and regular washes.
I just bought a gallon of Prep-All from your link on a previous video. I'm not sure what I'll do with my remaining quart of CG Wipeout, though. I'll soon strip the paint and apply Power Lock Plus followed with Collinite 845. I was thinking of using Meguiar's Mirror Glaze #34 Final Inspection, as Meguiar suggests this can be used as both a clay lube for their professional clay and as a quick detailer. As you mentioned Power Lock and are the WaxMode, do you have an opinion on this? I'm not sure I need or want a TW Spray Wax "drying aid." Any advice you can offer would be welcome!
Hold on to CG Wipeout until the Prep-All gets in to see if you like Prep-All. Some guys are really put off by the solvent smell of Prep-All unless they're wearing a half mask like I am. CG Wipeout I haven't used, it's probably similar to Gyeon Prep or CarPro Eraser which are good for post-polishing removal of visible oils, but not effective for wax/sealant stripping of fresh products. Definitely keep me posted on how you like Prep-All though, it's such a smooth panel wipe to apply and buff into the paint! Meguiar's #34 is a high quality product, we used this heavily when I was working in the detailing center over a decade ago and it was great for claying and final wipedowns. The Power Lock and Collinite 845 combination should work out great. I actually always had great results using the Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax or Ultimate Quik Detailer on top of Power Lock, and they should also play well with Collinite 845.
@@WaxMode Thanks for another wonderfully helpful response. I'll report back on the Prep-All when I use it. I expect the solvent smell will not bother me ... but it's prudent to check it out first. CG Wipeout is an IPA with additional lubricants, according to the label.
I tried it the product is garbage leaves water spot, dust magnet and when you touch your vehicle door handles it shows your finger print on the vehicle doors.
Try wiping off with a damp microfiber towel before the final buff. The oleophobic nature of this product should actually reduce the look of oils from your hands, it’s the same concept for why some phone screens are coated with an oleophobic coating, but it has to be fully leveled with the microfiber in order to achieve that, otherwise that top film layer itself will smear on you and likely attract dust. It won’t be a miracle product though, prints will still show especially on black but this should actually help combat just how bad the prints look.
So let me ask u this, if you have a black metallic suv, what would u use to give a great wet look, and is easy to use, available local, maybe removes or diminishes swirls, etc.? Have been using Mequires ultimate paste, great product, but hard on the arm. Liquid one, not so much but paste looks better, Neither seem to last long maybe 2 to 3 months.
I've been really enjoying the new Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Polish & Wax, leaves a great finish and has some cut to tackle some swirling. But you've got to use a damp microfiber towel after buffing it off and then follow up with a dry microfiber towel to get a clean wipeoff. With the damp microfiber towel, I can work in direct sunlight on hot black paint and have no issues. But that's going to be more work than Ultimate for sure, anything that you're using to try to tackle through paint swirls needs to be worked in a bit longer by hand or with the machine polisher.
Any recommendations for a white daily, that’s covered in cement dust regularly? Tried megs hybrid products n the water spotting is awful. Tried this stuff too but it doesn’t seem that great. Water sporting is significantly less tho. Any helps appreciated
Thanks James, no they only make Power Lock as a liquid sealant, so that’s the trade off it will take more time to apply with a foam applicator or using the polisher compared to a spray and wipe application. But the enjoyment factor for me is much better, and the cleaner and super slick wipe off is why I would rather go with something like Power Lock above Seal N Shine with the way that I detail cars.
You mentioned really preferring spray sealants that don't leave high spots and streaks. I've used Ice Seal and Shine, Ice Spray Wax, and Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Spray Wax, and CQuartz Reload on very dark paint. To me everything I've tried on dark paint streaks EXCEPT the Turtle Wax Ice Spray Wax. I'm wondering what other spray sealants/waxes you've tried and liked that wiped away cleanly with minimal effort.
Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz and High Gloss are two of my favorites, they wipe super clean for me but are just crazy expensive. I always had great success with Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish and the rest of the Optimum Opti-Seal style spray sealants in terms of how cleanly they buff into the paint. Bead Maker and Chemical Guys V7 wipe pretty cleanly for me as well. Some products can be a bit oily, leaving behind some residuals but not have a tendency to want to streak. But Seal N Shine and Reload are two that are heavy enough to cause color streaking and you may have issues getting them to level down well.
If a product gets streaky on me, I’ll spray it into a microfiber pad or towel and then apply it to the surface. Or I’ll follow it up with a damp microfiber towel. With Seal and Shine, my best results were achieved by spraying it into an applicator pad first. Too much streaking by following the instructions. Just my experience.
I would avoid using it on hotter paint and I would not recommend it for CQuartz, it’s too heavy and you’re going to reduce the hydrophobic performance that CQuartz offers by topping it with Seal N Shine.
I've had much better luck with Seal N Shine over the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Wax. Unprepped Seal N Shine I get about 6 weeks. That's with washing everyday with an alkaline based soap. Hybrid ceramic I drove through 1 rain storm and where the road spray hit it was gone.
Appreciate the feedback Matt. I'm still seeing very good performance out of the Ceramic Spray Coating in the durability tests so far, and we've been getting absolutely hammered by massive rains here in Florida on the daily drivers. I might set up a new batch and put this new Seal N Shine right next to the Ceramic Spray Coating to see how both hold up side by side in a long term test.
Great question! Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax has perhaps had the best hydrophobic staying power out of all of the consumer spray sealants and ceramics that I've tested in the long term durability tests so far. That includes Meguiar's HCW, Seal N Shine, Ceramic Spray Coating, and Mothers CMX. Griot's has been a surprisingly good performing protectant.
You can use it wet, but I like to use it dry, and then follow up with the damp wipedown if I need it. It’s too heavy for my liking to use it as a drying aid so that’s why I don’t like using it wet, I’d rather use the Ice Spray Wax on top as a drying aid instead for maintenance.
On the first application I would prefer to apply with the dry microfiber so that you get full 100% contact of Seal N Shine on the paint without dilution from the wet microfiber. Then use a damp towel for backup afterwards if needed, that way you get the best performance on direct contact for what Seal N Shine offers for the original application.
Yeah the original smell reminded me of this baby powder air freshener that people would get when I was working at a detail center a while ago. I was a bit disappointed with it because this smell was carried over directly from the Express Shine Spray Wax which they list as a "pine" scent in the MSDS, and so it was a bit out of place that they would use that scent instead of something much more aligned to the fruity/tropical scent of the rest of the ICE lineup. This grape scent is much better, at least for me!
@@WaxMode When I first started detailing I was like "who cares what it smells like?". Now I can see it definitely makes the user experience much better. I use a grape scented tire dressing that I actually enjoying using just because of the scent. But obviously it has to perform also.
great vid as usual.....there is a game-changer out there....the NSP line by dr beasleys….even mike phillips from autogeek stated in his review....as has all who have tried it.....it is definitely one u need to review/get familiar with....fyi my friend
Thanks John! I definitely want to grab a hold of some of their NSP products, I saw Brian at Apex did a great video of the line and they've got some really cool chemistry going on. I like the idea of a primer for the coatings to latch on to, rather than going straight on top of bare clearcoat. And I've played around with Essence and Gyeon Primer over the years but haven't focused down on any long term testing with them. Would be interesting to run a test with the Dr. Beasley line compared to how Essence and Primer works for the coatings, and whether or not a specific primer can really increase coating bonding and prolong durability.
@@WaxMode when u use the NSP it lays down a matrix for the coatings to bond to.....due to ingredients u also DO NOT USE A PAINT PREP AFTER USING.....U GO DIRECTLY TO APPLYING COATING - NO WAITING OR CURE TIME....the abrasives are all the same size - a costly manufacturing process - but the results are such that the panel/cut is equal thoughout resulting in the most level surface possible to achieve the highest gloss. fyi the 150 is 1.5 micron abrasives - the 95 is .95 - and the 45 as u can guess is .45 microns. mike phillips stated by far the best cut he has ever seen/achieved.....not even sonax/3d and the others come close....and simce abrasives are equal in size the also cut quickly...saving time....even tho cycle time is loonnggg!! enjoy
Retail price for this should still be around $12, which is what the previous version sold for. Some retailers like Walmart and Amazon were able to sell between $6-$9, I would not be expecting this price to change for those retailers.
@@WaxMode yeah i had to do a doubletake when i saw it.. went online to confirm just to make sure it wasnt a mistake and its $25 indeed..I still have 2 bottles of the original left anyways
I would avoid topping with Seal N Shine on the coatings, the reason is because it’s a very heavy spray topper and so you could see a reduction in the performance of the coating once Seal N Shine is on top. That’s what I noticed after topping CQUK with SNS, eventually SNS will wear away but I would stick with a lighter and more compatible coating topper. Beadmaker and Meguiar’s Hybrid Ceramic Detailer were two that did really well with all of the CQuartz coatings I tested.
BSD was durable for me up to 4 months. Seal N Shine should be able to get you there as well but they’re both very different from each other. We aren’t sure what kind of protective components are in BSD’s formula, the latest version of Seal N Shine had specific UV blockers added for increased UV protection. BSD is heavy enough where you could apply on top of Seal N Shine. BSD will also be more hydrophobic compared to Seal N Shine.
I tried seal n shine and stopped immediately. I have a 2017 F250,...doesn’t fit in the garage so in the sun I have to work. Ultimate fast finish will continue to be used due to its easy application and removal.
Ultimate Fast Finish is a phenomenal spray sealant to work with. So easy to get a clean wipeoff when using it, I'm really hoping Meguiar's doesn't discontinue it. Definitely an easy choice for a good sealant to use after hours of polishing.
I found the original Seal n Shine could dull the gloss on my car, has anyone else noticed this? Also, is the a difference in the gloss level between the original and the revised product?
Hey Philip, the gloss levels between the two of these were very similar when reading from my glossmeter. Let me know if you see a bump up in the gloss after the next wash, this does bump the readings up for me after the wash to match the levels that I was getting after polishing the paint with Sonax Perfect Finish. So I know the gloss potential is very high for Seal N Shine, but the residuals left behind can possibly be reducing the noticeable gloss until they're washed off.
I had the same results... could not buff this product out, I had to use maguires cleaner wax to remove seal and shine. I'm sticking to maguires spray wax.
@@HantsLeo ...Yes sir, I washed my car today and used maguires Wax as you dry with amazing results. How long it will last is another story. Stay safe my friend
Huge shout-out to PapaSmurf918, I was in his livestream when the team mentioned that the new Seal N Shine was out, check out Smurf's channel here if you haven't seen his detailing reviews, he's putting out some awesome content: ruclips.net/channel/UCigTU54-70pjPdKqnP6Boog
Shout-out to ONR Detailing News as well for getting the news out to everyone of the update, Turtle Wax let this one slide underneath the radar so I was not aware any update was on the way, check out ONR's channel here: ruclips.net/channel/UC14887mDbipJELcmU1ke8fg
I grabbed this new Seal N Shine at Advance Auto the other day for $12, the new formula will have the Improved Formula yellow tag on the top of the label. Let me know what you guys think down below, and what are your favorite products that you like to use to maintain Seal N Shine? I still prefer ICE Spray Wax for maintenance on top, but I would love to hear what products are working for you!
i have 3 bottles use one. nothing last forever every product need to be re-apply
normal i wash mi corsa twice a week use some sort of protection.
but now when was the hot wax or orginal wax and i used to much man was so hard to remove
was like a battle i learn to use small drops .other day made a mistake of not remove direct than felt as little stones after 2 or 3 times wipe it start to smooth but i am happy.today go to coin wash after first rinse put some drops over the body rinse again oh easy to dry.i am happy
Thank you!!!!!! You the man brotha!!! Appreciate the shout out!!✊✊✊✊
I find an excellent combo to use is the Turtle Wax seal n shine topped with Bead maker. Both are polymer sealants, both under $10.00 a winning combo. 😎🐢🇨🇦
OHHHH C’MON!!! Haha!! First I had to buy ICE Spray Wax, then Seal & Shine, and then HS Ceramic Coating, and NOW I have to buy another bottle of Seal & Shine?!?!?!?!?!?
Seal N Shine and Ice Spray Wax will get you a long way. I'd run that combination until you run out of Seal N Shine, then switch over to the HS Ceramic Spray Coating and pick up Ceramic Wet Wax for maintenance. Great combos that get the job done. Don't fall into the trap like me and grabbing everything that comes out, I'm an addict with a serious problem!
Still trying to get you to spend $$$$!
John, I am in the same situation. I tried other wax and then went with ICE Spray Wax, which was great. I then started using the HS Ceramic Coating Wax which I don't like the effort it takes to apply and wipe off. The HS Ceramic Coating Wax leaves a haze which I use a damp cloth to wipe off.
I am going to get the new formula of ICE Spray Wax and Detailer.
Lol!
My wife rolls her eyes at me every time I ask her if I can buy more Turtle Wax products.
@@Al-ok1lj lol mine got used to it. Now she does'nt care about me buying more car products.
I think TW upgraded SNS, to stay king of the hill. SNS became the benchmark against what all other sealants and I've seen coatings as well are tested against. TW has a huge reputation to protect, they want to be the leader, not among the leaders, or a fast follower. Keep on eye on TW, I'm sure there's more great things to come.
Dude!!! Yes! Fantastic video. The new version for sure seems to be more chemically resistant!!! I enjoyed your thoughts on this stuff and I'll be picking some up and having some fun!!! Oh and thank you for joining my livestream man! ✊✊ hope to see you in the next one!!! I'm going to get this new seal n shine😁
I have 6 new bottles of TW Seal and Shine 1.0 in my basement hahaha! Thanks for this video, it's cool to see Turtle Wax reading what people like us are saying and improving their products.
Yeah I felt a lot of guys would be surprised because I knew many were hoarding this up when it was selling for dirt cheap! If you end up trying the new version out, let me know if you see any difference in the performance on your cars compared to the first formula.
@@WaxMode I absolutely will. If anything, I'll apply one of each to each side of the car, and just see after a few months how each is holding up. But like you said, application is so important. I personally stay away from damp towels to remove the high spots. Even though they are unsightly, I find that any moisture will really impact the longevity of this, and prefer to just wait a few days then wash the car which knocks down the high spots and still gives me a proper cure. Sandro from Car Craft Detailing found the same thing in his testing in regards to moisture during the cure cycle affecting it's performance. It's hard to tell if that level of chemical resistance is for show, or if we'll get say another 1-3 months of protection out of it. The time is more important than chemical resistance to me, since I don't really drive in any conditions that warrant needing that, and if I did I'd go ceramic coating all the way lol
Great companies don't rest on their laurels. And Turtle Wax just proved again how great a company they are. They are consumer conscious which again is demonstrated by the value pricing of their products. Fabulous
I agree Kyle! Outstanding value and performance for the pricing that they're offering these products at. Really a breath of fresh air after seeing many sio2 spray protectants selling for the $35 range for 500ml.
Used it today, never buying another spray wax! This is the best!!
How is it different that the normal ice wax spray?
I would like to see a comparison video between this newly improved TW Ice Seal N Shine vs. TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating. C'mon there are a few detailers here. 😊
I've been wanting to see this as well, I guess waiting was a good thing since there's now the updated version. I've used the original version and couldn't be happier with it👍👍
I’ve graduated to the TW ceramic and love it. I started with the original Ice and now use ceramic and now I’m wondering what I’m missing with this stuff. 🤔
For $10 the longevity of this is amazing
Ok so it is true! I will have to try it out. I think a refresh is fine at this point with all the SIO2 craze right now. Looks like another winner. I like that you explained how to prevent streaking because people just don’t understand what 1 Spray means.
I'm going to laugh if I find out the only difference is the scent, and it's my shelf life on the original bottle that's making up the difference in performance with the Strip Down test. Haha could you imagine! I like the refresh, the smell was the weirdest thing about the original Seal N Shine when I first got my hands on it because they just carried over that fragrance from the Express Shine Carnauba Spray Cleaner Spray Wax, instead of putting their ICE spin on it from the beginning, so I like this grape style smell better.
What I'm not sure about is the extent of the SiO2 content, because if I'm not mistaken, the bottles that they sent up to the Canadian market listed SiO2 on the front of those with the first formula. And I can't remember if Turtle Wax touched on that topic at the Test Drive event. You'll have to let me know what you think if you pick this new one up.
WaxMode That would be funny man! I don’t remember if they mentioned that or not at the event. I have tried finding this new version and no one here has it in stock yet.
Amazing to see that new improved formula from Turtle Wax Seal n Shine.
Thanks WaxMode xoxo from Puerto Rico 👍🇵🇷
Thanks for watching Humberto!
Just an FYI for people - I just received my Seal N Shine from Amazon and it’s still the old version of Seal N Shine and it’s almost 1.5 yrs since this video….crazy!! Today’s date 10/17/21 GREAT VIDEO 👍🏼
Thanks again Waxmode for another terrific video! Thank God they changed the scent. Some people were throwing it away just because it smelled like 1970s bug spray. The new resistance is really great. Nobody can deny that. You said chemical resistance properties is not the be all end all for you. I agree. However, I know your be all end all is hydrophobics/beading. For me, it’s how the car looks and so far, I still like the look Hybrid Solutions Spray Coating and Wet Wax are giving me. I have put many coats of Wet Wax on my car and 4 coats of Spray Coating in maybe 3 months. Incredibly, the car seems to get a little deeper and darker every time I put either one of the Hybrid Solutions waxes on it. I have a Ruby Red 2018 Mustang and it looks the best it’s ever looked with these Hybrid Solutions products. I don’t give either one of the Hybrid Solutions products time enough to find out how durable they are. I wash my car every 3 to 4 days with Optimum No Rinse and wax while I dry with Wet Wax every time. I may try the new Seal N Shine some time in the future though since I won’t need a gas mask to use it! LOL! Thanks again for the demo of the new SNS.
Appreciate the comment as always Robert! That Ruby Red looks absolutely insane, every time my neighbor pulls his Mustang out to wash it I'm just in awe of that gloss and how much it pops in the sun. There are a lot of guys on the detailing forums that are loving the Ceramic Spray Coating and Ceramic Wet Wax combo, Turtle Wax did a great job on that duo. I'm digging the new scent for Seal N Shine, I was a bit disappointed to see they carried over the scent from the Express Shine Spray Wax on the first formula of Seal N Shine when I first got my hands on it, and so I think this change was a needed one to better align the spray sealant with the rest of the ICE lineup.
I used some today and with the new formula they toned the smell down a lot.
Awsome man!! some great in-depth knowledge of the product...I never thought of the "heaviness" of products, I didn't know what to call it, but it makes so much sense. I need to call you and chat man,..I learn a lot from your"Sherlock" approach.
Thanks so much Phil! Always good to hear from you, we'll definitely have to get in touch over the phone and catch up, I'll shoot you over an e-mail.
Man, I’ll let the super hydrophobic claim slide just because the product delivers everywhere else. Seems like a great bang for buck protectant. You just can’t hate turtlewax, they seem to really want to make something good for the consumer and not take the piss. Granted, this is not the type of product that I’m personally interested in, but I’d definitely recommend it to friends who aren’t crazy bead addicts like myself and just want a great value, long lasting and chemical resistant protectant that’s relatively easy to apply. Keep the product news comin’!👍🏼
Exactly Andres, I’ll let them slide on that one, superhydrophobic is water beading that has above a 150 degree contact angle, and no detailing product comes close to that so far. I agree with you, it’s an easy to recommend valued-based protectant that a lot of people will enjoy.
WaxMode Yeah, I doubt we have the tech yet to make consumer-grade products that have such ridiculously high surface tension without sacrificing the surface being clear and glossy. The only way that I know of to get to those numbers is to texture the surface. I’d like to start seeing maintenance toppers that can make 120* beads. That would be THE gamechanger for me. I don’t even care if it only lasts a few weeks.
Hi Waxmode.
When i had my first bottle of seal and shine last year, i applied it heavy, like u did at the end of this video on a black civic.
And of course the streaking was so bad to the point of embarrassing me when i park the car under full mid day sunlight.
The streaking was that horrible, even after i try to level it out with a damp almost dripping wet towel.
But...i have to say protection wise, this product is absolutely beast and god like, almost on par with the protection that fusso coat provide, which for me is the best for a non coating category.
Not to mention the price point, i bet no one in this world will ever consider this stuff expensive.
For the looks of this product, i found out that on the first application, it will disappoint u, because it will streak and made the paint look a lil bit foggy on dark paint, and there's just nothing u can do to make it look
better.
But once u drive the car couple of days, after the product fully cured by sunlight, and especially after the first car wash, then the shine and gloss of this product on the panel will finally make u smile.
And not to mention it bead and sheet water like crazy when i wash the car.
After using and trying lots of detailing products, i've come to a conclusion that, if a product is hard to apply or tends to streak badly after wipe off, then most of the time the product will last long on the panel/protect longer, and the easier a product to apply or wipe off, then usually it will degrade/faded quicker on the panel.
Just like seal and shine, sonax BSD is another product that streak badly, but hv a great protection and crazy water behavior.
While some boutique wax like the pinnacle souveran, is just super duper fun and super effortless to apply and wipe off perfectly clean everytime, but maybe will vanish completely from the panel after just 2 or 3 car wash with a dedicated ph neutral car soap.
I find that most of the meguiars product, provide the win win solution, relative easy application and wipe off, while still have some decent protection and durability on the panel.
Great comment JE2F! You're right, eventually that streaking will level out. Brilliant Shine Detailer is absolutely insane, the performance on top of the coatings is unreal. We've been getting absolutely blasted with rain and the rain itself will practically wash the paint clean, crazy beading. I'm loving the Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic lineup, Hybrid Ceramic Detailer is such a good product, one of my new favorites.
WaxMode How about HS Ceramic Spray after application? easy to wipe off?
When you use Seal N Shine, spray it on the towel instead of directly on to the car and you will have a lot less streaking.
Looking forward to the comparison with the hybrid solutions.
I seriously would like to see a durability test between the two. 24hr cure time and 2 coats
Ok...sooo for those of us who won't be spending 6 hours doing a paint correction polish - a couple of hours with a thorough washing/claybar and providing the paint is reasonably prepped - (as a weekend driveway warrior) i see (and use) S&S as a terrific 1-step product that even with the (what? 15-20 minute damp towel wipe-down finish) provides a terrific final or base coat for future wax applications. As stated (and as with most ALL TW products) a little can go a very long way. I feel that when applied and used properly this product offers a value and protection/shine to time spent ratio that at the very least most serious amateur detailers will find very hard to beat. Thx.
@Casper Gomez hah! Yep...we all suffer at some point! But...go with what ya like. I bought into the new TW Hybrid Ceramic system this Spring. Once over with the polish and 3 coats of the SiO2 spray over several weeks. FAB-U-LOUS! easy to work gloss is off the meter and holding tough. I have a Tornado red GTI - looks boss.
@Casper Gomez U 2 amigo. 🚘
@@audieconrad8995 I'm with you. I tried the Seal and Shine and the Turtle Wax Hybrid Ceramic; both perform to my satisfaction and since I'm not detailing to the N'th degree, that's all I require.
Love this product! Even it got rained after 12hrs of applying it to the car!
Oh shit!! New formula! I think seal and shine is better then ceramic spray.
Seal N Shine (the first formula) has had better chemical resistance when fresh compared to the Ceramic Spray Coating in my tests. I still like the Hybrid Solutions line, difficult to get a gauge on if there's a significant advantage in long term protection with the sio2 blends in the Ceramic Spray Coating compared to the blends in Seal N Shine, despite the spray coating not having quite the same hydrophobic resistance after a chemical dumping.
Dave, I tried other wax and then went with ICE Spray Wax, which was great. I then started using the HS Ceramic Coating Wax which I don't like the effort it takes to apply and wipe off. The HS Ceramic Coating Wax leaves a haze which I use a damp cloth to wipe off.
(Hard to wipe off after applying)
I am going to get the new formula of ICE Spray Wax and Detailer.(Easy to wipe off after applying)
Great video and review, totally agree with application method. Didn’t really see a reason to add to the old formula. Either way decent consumer product for a fair price ,thanks again .
Own original version. Impressed with chemical resistance but like a product that has some visual pop and that applies easier (for me, it was viscous and draggy on application and buff off).
Appreciate the feedback Stev, I agree that the heavier concentrated formula comes with some tradeoffs in wipeability.
Well done video. Appreciate speeding up through certain segments. Also, you make good tips with explanation.
Thanks psa! This video came out longer than I would have liked but hopefully it was informative.
I believe they reformulated it based on the original's popularity. It was an absolute home run for the company and Seal n Shine has had somewhat of a cult following on RUclips and with your mainstream consumer's who love to detail their vehicles as a hobby like myself. Even though TW said Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray coating was supposed to be the much improved version of Seal n Shine, they figured why not listen to what the consumers complained about (scent) and make it better and even more durable than before to continue its cult following and its popularity. I actually believe that with a 2 application method with a 24 hour cure for each application of both New Seal n Shine and TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray coating they are going to have identical chemical resistance with the Hybrid solutions having better gloss readings. Heck Seal n shine might even end up stronger in the end! And for 12$ its the same price as Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray which i don't understand. I actually believe that Walmart will sell it for under 10$.
gabe villarreal I paid $10.99 for the 1st version of Streak and Shine at Walmart in Bellingham Wa
@@platinumautoglasswindowtin88Calling it Streak and shine is half speed. You must have a dark colored car. Mine is white pearl. No streaking here. Just literally 4 months of FULL SPEED protection and water sheeting after about 2 months. Excellent product. I have hybrid solutions ceramic spray coating but haven't used it yet. Soft99 Fusso coat is going on next week. I'll keep you posted but even though it's a lot harder to work with than the spray sealants I'm used to, I think it will be worth it with its extremely hydrophobic characteristics which im really look for and excited to test as im taking a 1200 mile trip back home to deep south Texas and that relentless heat sun trying to break it down!
gabe villarreal red colour on an 06 Pontiac G6
@@platinumautoglasswindowtin88 Try applying less product. That works way better for me.
Tried the original version and like you, I don’t enjoy using products that Seal n Streak. If TW had addressed that problem with the new formula, I’d give it another shot.
I think that heaviness of Seal N Shine has a lot to do with just how aggressive it is when combating aggressive chemicals and cleaners. I would guess that if they were able to get the blend to a point to where it's wiping off super cleanly without the potential for streaking, we wouldn't be seeing the same type of chemical resistance properties out of it. Appreciate your feedback JD!
WaxMode is right. When I contacted TW they said to use a damp microfiber to get rid of it. I tried it and they were right. To get durability, increased chemical levels are required. For me the trade off is worth it. If I had been in TW shoes I would have made the same decision.
Does it still STREAK? Mine streaks like crazy!!
Use it a few times and never had any streaking.
I’ve seen a couple reviews where the gloss meter readings actually go down after applying seal n shine!!
Very impressed from turtle wax I love how they’ve started to up there game
They're definitely putting out some very competitive products for awesome prices! Even the new Hybrid Solutions line is down to around $12 for the spray coating.
On a black Equinox, Seal and Shine actually "hazed" then finish. It almost look foggy in the inspection lights.
3D One, and Megs Ultimate left DA haze, but Menzerna 2500, and 3500 both finished beautifully though.
Great video, Loach!
Thanks so much Dan, good to hear from you as always! I can definitely see Seal N Shine reducing the finish a bit on polished paint, it's very difficult to wipe it cleanly even when using it sparingly without that damp microfiber assist. The gloss measurements do bump up considerably after the damp microfiber wipe or after the wash with Reset. I was at 96.0GU after polishing with Sonax Perfect Finish and the Prep-All panel wipe, then Seal N Shine brought us down to the 94.3GU range, and then washing with Reset brought the numbers back up to 95.8GU.
I agree with other comments that Seal N Shine is a good consumer level product that is cheap and lasts a long time. Most of my customers really value appearance and Seal N Shine is below average in the appearance category plus it attracts dust in windy environments. I find that it won’t release dust even while driving. For detailers it’s a decent product to use on wheels when a customer doesn’t want to pay for a true Si02 wheel coating because it applies quickly and has excellent resistance to road film, snow melt and harsh chemicals.
Appreciate the feedback John!
I seen this as well, I think this stuff is the real deal. I'm gonna try and top it not sure anything will adhere but I'm gonna try .
Just purchased this improved version at Walmart for $9.59. Have been using the regular version and have been really happy with the results. Can't wait to give this new version a try. Oh, I heard that this improved version has UVA protection in it!
Hmmm.....I wonder if Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating isn't selling as well as they hoped, so they took a proven huge seller with established performance and decided to "add SiO2" to it to get the desired outcome (i.e. "sales") that they hoped for with HS Ceramic Spray Coating?
Turtle Wax did mention at the Test Drive event that they are going to continue to come out with improvements on their products, and by updating Seal N Shine this quickly, this shows me that they mean business. Even on a product that I would assume is selling well, they're not afraid to make quick adjustments and change up the scent which was one of the biggest complaints that I heard, and even slightly change the blend to provide even better performance.
I'm liking this direction a lot, Seal N Shine has built up its own massive following online, and I think Turtle Wax is catering to this group by making it an even better product. I would be interested to see how well the Hybrid Solutions line is selling, and I would say that a lot of people are not diving into the HS line because Seal N Shine was performing so well for them. But for me, I really like that 3 punch combo out of Ceramic Polish & Wax, Ceramic Spray Coating, and Ceramic Wet Wax. That is a fantastic system that is more attractive to me than Seal N Shine & Ice Spray Wax.
Great vid. Thanks for posting. Great upgrade from the Turtle also.... and Great Bang for the Buck.
I got that new seal and shine and it's fire 🔥
Awesome Eddy, let me know how it holds up for you!
I like seal n shine but find it streaky sometimes but love the performance of the product
This product has great value. Its less than 10 bucks and performs well enough to stand against products that cost twice or three times as much. Its not the best but you can't beat the value.
Grape laffy taffy.....thank god. I did 3 vehicles with my first bottle and that equated to about 5-6 months here in Port Orange Florida. Recently bought a bottle of Megs ceramic spray to try and really liked the wipe down. Only 2 weeks in so we’ll see how long it lasts, but so far so good especially with all the rain.
Crazy rain recently, which is great because we were in a bit of a drought beforehand. Did you pick up the blue Hybrid Ceramic Wax or the green Ceramic Detailer? Love both of them, but really enjoying the Ceramic Detailer as a maintenance topper.
I got the green detailer just wanted to try it. Watching you,apex, and pan having all the fun 😂 I think I’m gonna try griots 3in1 ceramic on the F-250 and the Jeep next. I loved the BOSS line with an orange pad & my cheap ass harbor freight polisher.
You know wax mode I bet you got the cleanest driveway in the neighborhood 😜
Brian Garland - Haha! Not with that rust bucket sitting there on the right!
Eat product I have ever used... I just used two coats of the new seal
And shine and one coat of the ice wax and let me Tell you guys, it is
Super sleek and shine. It has rained the whole Week but the product still perfect
Man what happened to this guy?! Dude was great with his information & I really liked the way he displayed his content. Hope everything’s okay, I would really like to see him come back & talk about the products in today’s time, with what’s out now. It’s been a 2 good years since we’ve seen him post.🤔
After your recommendation, I've been using the green bottle wax&dry as a drying aid which helps significantly (Thanks!). Is the way&dry comparable to the two spray waxes shown in the background of this video?
I am sold on the price and ease of use of the wax&dry, and wondering if I should give the spray wax or even the new hybrid solutions wet wax a try when I finish my bottle. I am using hybrid solutions ceramic spray also.
Loving the videos man!
Thanks Keith! You will love the Ceramic Wet Wax when you get through with your Wax & Dry bottle, that's what I would recommend grabbing next. A bit more protection and durability left behind compared to Wax & Dry, but still super easy to dry the paint off when using it wet.
The Express Shine Carnauba Spray Wax is different than all of these other sprays. It has a bit more cleaners and bit to really cut through lighter oxidation and fading, some stubborn stains as well that the other sprays won't tackle through. Great for a lot of daily drivers for people that don't wash their paint all that often or are heavily involved in detailing. Because of that cleaning ability, I would not use that spray wax as a topper for any of the other products, it would knock them down a bit by using it on top of them.
Ice Spray Wax is still one of my favorites for an all around spray maintenance topper for a variety of different products. Very decent durability left behind, easier to work with compared to Seal N Shine. Fantastic smell, but I would say if you're hooked on the Hybrid Solutions line, I would stick with those products instead of grabbing the ICE line. Ceramic Spray Coating paired with Ceramic Wet Wax is the perfect duo to complement each other.
@@WaxMode I couldn't agree more. The Spray Wax and Wax&Dry are very accessible and are so versatile, and I am sure the wet wax is an even better compliment to the Hybrid Ceramic series. Seems like it is only a few bucks more here in Canada
I'm still using the TW wax&dry and it works better then the TW super hard shell i used to wax my car with. The wax & dry smells great and the beads are nice and round it's slick makes me want to touch the car everytime i wash it and i enjoy using that product it's one of the best Drying aids imo and the durability is also good it last longer then my Super hard shell. Too bad i can't find any TW seal & shine down here in South America i love that product. The Express shine also helps me tar and stains off i would say it's the next best thing to the clay bar.
@@ibj3 The coconut smell is fantastic :)
Its true!!!!!!! Oh man here we go!!!!
Let's GOOOOOO! Great work on the Ethos video as well, I'll head in there and drop a comment in a bit.
@@WaxMode hahaha no worries man!!!✊✊🤜🤛 you got me all kinda of excited to try this new seal n shine😎😏
that car in the driveway looks jacked up!
Hi, can i use the Ice Seal N Shine as the final application? no need to use Ice Spray Wax? or is a Wax on top of it is recommended? ty
I made a test with this product over cquartz 3.0 after washing it properly and the results were amazing even better than reload
Appreciate the feedback! The CQUK 3.0 section that I ended up topping with Seal N Shine was not quite as hydrophobic as the section that I topped with Bead Maker. I showcase that in my Bead Maker video review at this link here, 7:17 into the vid: ruclips.net/video/WUBpQ1TuU5U/видео.html
@@WaxMode thank you, new on the channel keep it up!
looks like they have an improved spray wax formula out as well
Appreciate the heads up! I did a local lap around the town and no one has it yet, will keep looking!
@@WaxMode I literally just found a single bottle at advance auto. Best of luck. Also has a fruity smell to it. Looking forward to more videos.
Bel Lavoro Auto Spa - Does it smell different than the original Ice Spray Wax? I really liked the original scent.
@@WaxMode yes. It smells like grape candy.
Try applying turtle wax ice spray wax on top of seal and shine you'll get them crazy beads and even better performance. They say that it can be done. Pan had them on one of his shows very interesting hearing what they say about these products.
Dude it's way better than products costing $80
It's got chemical resistance that can outperform some coatings in the short term!
When you use Seal N Shine, spray it on the towel instead of directly on to the car and you will have a lot less streaking.
Great tip, especially on hot paint you will want to spray directly into the towel.
I use the original formula in the sun, and if you do get streaking just use a QD sprayed onto a MF and it glides right off. Also keep shaking the bottle every now and then. The bottle clearly states is, but many reviews don't. The Carnauba and SIO2 needs to mix somehow......
@No Name siloxane, not Si02 exactly but who cares stuff works rediculous. Blending synthetic sealant and carnauba. Excellent stuff.
It's a good product but it's only downside is that attracts dust and pollen like crazy I have to rinse my car every other day to get rid of the particles other than that it's a great cheap alternative.
I appreciate the feedback Joaquin, dust attraction can definitely be a problem with different products, some guys have absolutely no problem with dust and others can have a huge issue. I'm wondering if the type of microfiber towel has an impact on this, that can lead to a bit of static building up and attracting dust. Definitely need to do more testing on it.
I'm mad because I bought 3 bottles of SNS last year as well as 3 bottles of their ceramic spray!
Yeah there was a lot of people stocking up on Seal N Shine when the price was $5-7 a bottle.
Love it for wheels for its chemical resistance and it can also apply with spray on spray off
I still have to try the spray on rinse off application with the new formula, the Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Spray Coating gives some insane hydrophobics as a spray and rinse product, but I still usually like to have a dry application as a foundation coat before using a product after the next wash as a spray and rinse.
Basically stick it on the last week of September winter over with and then the last week of March clean your car again and stick it on again that is your year done great stuff the ceramic is great but nobody has got time or a place to hide a car for 24-hours without it being rained on very difficult but with this spray and shine basically very simple every 6 months whack it on
I like it for easy application to the truck and trailer front fascias. Helps with bug removal which is at its peak now.soak with degreaser and power wash it👍🏻
Next love bug season I'll have to pull it out on the front bumper and keep track of that. My area got crushed by love bugs this year but seems like they moved out pretty quickly. Great tip though, definitely helps to have that chemical resistance when you're using a heavier cleaner for the bugs, I really like Poorboy's World Bug Squash for when I have a ton of bugs to deal with.
There's a newer version than that now with a new upgraded label. I wonder if they changed anything from the yellow sticker new improved version. I have both and mixed them together 🤣 just had 4 ounces of the yellow labeled one so don't think it hurt anything.🤣
Thanks for the video! I've used a MF applicator block to apply this to ensure a light even application. Just curious why you didn't mention this method versus the light spritz and wipe down in your vid?
theReal evo77 that's good idea because I've had nothing but blotchy and streak problems with SnS. But if I'm going to use a MF applicator block then I would just use a far better product like TAC Moonlight or Gyeon Cancoat
I get streaks with seal n shine and even the ceramic spray. I go back over it with duragloss spray wax and that helps remove all of it.
Yes even the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating is on the heavier side, not quite as heavy as Seal N Shine but it can definitely streak on some paint. It's been a while since I pulled out DG Aquawax, that reminds me I need to run some gloss testing with that one!
@@WaxMode yes please do. I actually prefer that over bead maker.
I'm still using the Duragloss 101 wet look polish and sealant 25 years later. The finish is more slick and glossy than any of these new sprays.
@@brenthill5596 yup I keep a gallon of that spray handy.
Awsome when can you get some technicians choice would love to see it against seal and shine durability wise
Hey man can i apply this over my cquarts uk ceramic coating as a booster for shine?
Nice video as always. I am wondering if the heavy residual is there to do some filling on the clear. I will just stick with my Gtechniq C2V3 cut as 50:50 with distilled water as my topper on my CSL/EXO coated car. Don't prefer the fake grape small if it is like the the scent used with Adam;s regular shampoo. I like Reset the best out all the shampoos I used. I used Dr. Beasley's Ceramic body wash , Polish Angel Glasscoat shampoo, Gyeon Bathe Essence , AngelWax Shampoo, Adams Regular, Meguiars Hyperwash and maybe few other.
Thanks Doc! How has your shelf life been with C2V3? It's been a while since I've had this bottle of mine, has to be at least 4 years now since I picked it up and first used it, I last used it around 4 months ago and noticed some slight streaking. I might pull it out with Reload and IGL Premier in a future video. Reset is a great shampoo, love the fresh scent it has, very pleasant to work with. My Gyeon Bathe Essence went bad in the bottle, it's like a really darker amber color now instead of the clear it used to be, I should have been storing it with the pump top closed down. Adam's is one soap that I do want to try out in the future, I'm running low on Reset and still have Hyper-Wash but the Adam's is probably next on the list for me.
Great video excellent information although I would like to know why nobody uses gasoline in the torture test to simulate the overflow when filling a gas tank . And can one layer the new Seal N shine formula over the old seal N shine
Great suggestion! I'll leave it up to the other channels to run the gasoline testing, I wouldn't be able to tolerate the gas smell. You can apply the new Seal N Shine directly on top of the previous formula that's already on the paint.
Interesting you used a gloss meter and saw a decrease in the reading. I've applied the original SNS two weekends in a row last month, and it definitely is lacking that "pop" on the paint to my eye. I am not entirely sure how to describe it, but I don't seem to have the same issue with using ICE spray wax. Good stuff, but looking forward to trying out the hybrid ceramic lineup next, cheers
The gloss jumped back up immediately after the first wash with Reset, but you're right that the immediate readings right after applying it to the paint will read lower compared to the polishing step. That's pretty normal for most products, but Seal N Shine's extra heaviness can possibly be muting the gloss a bit until the wash. I still like Ice Spray Wax after all of these years, it's still a great maintenance product.
Nice vid, as always! Have you ever tried Tac Systems Shinee Wax? I love how it looks.
Thanks again Codriver! Don't have my hands on Shinee Wax yet, but it will be in soon, really looking forward to it.
I alternate this stuff in between washes with S&S, I also like the pop. Really impressive stuff.
I've got Moonlight on most of my customers cars and have been looking at getting Shiny Wax for a topper/maintenance coating. Heard some really good things about it.
If they could somehow improve the hydrophobicity it would be a winner.
Definitely, there seems to be a tradeoff going on between hydrophobics and chemical resistance in the consumer lines. Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic and Mothers CMX will show crazier short term beading and sheeting, but the less hydrophobic Seal N Shine, Hybrid Ceramic Spray Coating, and Griot's Ceramic Wax will definitely edge those out in chemical resistance.
Nice video. First time viewer here.
Thanks HM!
When real good got even better.
Winner
Annoying as I just started using my bottle. Cheap enough I suppose for a great product. Excellent for daily drivers, and takes ages to break down for cars parked outside.
Old formula is still an impressive performer for the price!
I'm a bit confused as to what TW is doing. The Hybrid Solutions was supposed to be a step up from the Ice line and Seal N Shine and now it looks like they've brought Seal N Shine to the level of their Hyrbrid solutions. So which is better? Why would I use one over the other? It looks like TW is trying to compete against itself and they're blurring the line between their two entirely different product lines. Either way, I love their products and will continue to use the Hybrid solutions but I won't rule out reaching for a bottle of Seal and Shine.
thanks for the vid.. good info. SnS isn't my favorite product either. it's fine. I've used the product and i didn't think it last that long in my environment.. I also found it streaky and wasn't as much gloss pop as other products.. great price though.... did you post the xtreme solutions poly seal vid yet? that's a product I really liked...
Thanks Barry, I haven't posted a video yet for Poly-Seal, still want to run a few more tests with it and Magnum Wax, but it is on the short list of upcoming videos. Hopefully I'll get a video of it out within the next week.
I love the videos!
Thanks Hank, I appreciate it!
Great video and channel!
Thanks so much Thomas!
Still think the Griot's Ceramic Detailer is better? What would your favorite topper be? Gloss, hydrophobics, and durability being considered?
Interesting, I didn’t know it is so streaky. Making me rethink it. I’ll stick to Optimum Sealant for now. I do enjoy TW Wet Wax as a great drying aid, I’d like to know how the hybrid version performs.
Are you working with Opti-Seal? I'm a huge fan of the Opti-Seal style of sealants. Wolfgang Liquid Seal, Blackfire Crystal Seal, Meguiar's Ultimate Fash Finish, McKee's 37 10-Minute Sealant, some of my favorite types of products to work with just based on the way that they atomize onto the paint out of the spray nozzle. Super simple to work with, and they give such a clean wipeoff when buffing them into the paint. Very satisfying products to play around with, they don't have the craziest hydrophobic performance but the ease of use is very high up there and I love to use them after hours of paint correction.
WaxMode Yes Opti-Seal. I realised afterwards, I haven’t been using my detail arsenal in so long with the lockdown, I forgot some of the names!
Yeah I have to agree, the performance and super ease of application and wipe off is unmatched by these types of sealants you mention. I love using it on my wheels, exhaust and other nooks and crannies, traditional sealants won’t get to. I’m impressed that I get months of longevity on the wheels, on my daily driver.
I must note, I used it as spray and wipe off for a while as they suggested. But once I tried the process of traditional method of massaging it in paintwork, cross hatch, with an applicator like Yvon Lacross once illustrated the performance and hydrophobics have just gone up to full potential. It’s holding up so well now. I use the Optimum Wax as a drying aid, as Yvonne claims it is able to work in synergy and migrate under the Opti-Seal.
I like that TW Wet Wax gives that boost to white paint and has no streaking vs Optimum Wax, so I’m keen to try TW Ceramic Spray Wax as my drying aid.
Hard to beat HS ceramic spray. 2 coats and my paint looks like glass.
The best method to check the durabilityof each product is to put the the car under the sun for some days.
We get hammered by high temperatures here in Florida, a lot of these products do fine against the sun and heat except some of the less durable carnauba based waxes. This chemical resistance test isn't a measure of long term durability, for that I like to get the products on the ungaraged daily drivers and keep track of their performance, exactly as one would use the product in the real world except without the topping maintenance.
@@WaxMode Exactly. I'm living in Cyprus and have my cars parked under the sun for 9 hours daily. I have tried carnauba waxes, gyeon wetcoat, turtle wax hydrophobic wax, collinite 845. The last 2 together on polished car! None of them can last over a month with normal use and regular washes.
Man! TW Raising the bar .
I just bought a gallon of Prep-All from your link on a previous video. I'm not sure what I'll do with my remaining quart of CG Wipeout, though.
I'll soon strip the paint and apply Power Lock Plus followed with Collinite 845. I was thinking of using Meguiar's Mirror Glaze #34 Final Inspection, as Meguiar suggests this can be used as both a clay lube for their professional clay and as a quick detailer.
As you mentioned Power Lock and are the WaxMode, do you have an opinion on this? I'm not sure I need or want a TW Spray Wax "drying aid."
Any advice you can offer would be welcome!
Hold on to CG Wipeout until the Prep-All gets in to see if you like Prep-All. Some guys are really put off by the solvent smell of Prep-All unless they're wearing a half mask like I am. CG Wipeout I haven't used, it's probably similar to Gyeon Prep or CarPro Eraser which are good for post-polishing removal of visible oils, but not effective for wax/sealant stripping of fresh products. Definitely keep me posted on how you like Prep-All though, it's such a smooth panel wipe to apply and buff into the paint!
Meguiar's #34 is a high quality product, we used this heavily when I was working in the detailing center over a decade ago and it was great for claying and final wipedowns. The Power Lock and Collinite 845 combination should work out great. I actually always had great results using the Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax or Ultimate Quik Detailer on top of Power Lock, and they should also play well with Collinite 845.
@@WaxMode Thanks for another wonderfully helpful response. I'll report back on the Prep-All when I use it. I expect the solvent smell will not bother me ... but it's prudent to check it out first.
CG Wipeout is an IPA with additional lubricants, according to the label.
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Thanks so much, stay tuned for more tests coming up!
I tried it the product is garbage leaves water spot, dust magnet and when you touch your vehicle door handles it shows your finger print on the vehicle doors.
Try wiping off with a damp microfiber towel before the final buff. The oleophobic nature of this product should actually reduce the look of oils from your hands, it’s the same concept for why some phone screens are coated with an oleophobic coating, but it has to be fully leveled with the microfiber in order to achieve that, otherwise that top film layer itself will smear on you and likely attract dust. It won’t be a miracle product though, prints will still show especially on black but this should actually help combat just how bad the prints look.
So let me ask u this, if you have a black metallic suv, what would u use to give a great wet look, and is easy to use, available local, maybe removes or diminishes swirls, etc.? Have been using Mequires ultimate paste, great product, but hard on the arm. Liquid one, not so much but paste looks better, Neither seem to last long maybe 2 to 3 months.
I've been really enjoying the new Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Polish & Wax, leaves a great finish and has some cut to tackle some swirling. But you've got to use a damp microfiber towel after buffing it off and then follow up with a dry microfiber towel to get a clean wipeoff. With the damp microfiber towel, I can work in direct sunlight on hot black paint and have no issues. But that's going to be more work than Ultimate for sure, anything that you're using to try to tackle through paint swirls needs to be worked in a bit longer by hand or with the machine polisher.
Any recommendations for a white daily, that’s covered in cement dust regularly? Tried megs hybrid products n the water spotting is awful. Tried this stuff too but it doesn’t seem that great. Water sporting is significantly less tho. Any helps appreciated
I’m also in FL too if that helps
Nice stuff so do they make a power lock spray sealant? I saw the power lock polymer sealeant on Amazon.
Thanks James, no they only make Power Lock as a liquid sealant, so that’s the trade off it will take more time to apply with a foam applicator or using the polisher compared to a spray and wipe application. But the enjoyment factor for me is much better, and the cleaner and super slick wipe off is why I would rather go with something like Power Lock above Seal N Shine with the way that I detail cars.
Jescar the company that makes power lock came out with a new ceramic spray sealant called bead it. I bought a bottle but have not used it yet.
Hey,Can we use new turtle ice seal and shine spray after applying meguire ultimate compound followed by meguire ultimate polish.
You mentioned really preferring spray sealants that don't leave high spots and streaks. I've used Ice Seal and Shine, Ice Spray Wax, and Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Spray Wax, and CQuartz Reload on very dark paint. To me everything I've tried on dark paint streaks EXCEPT the Turtle Wax Ice Spray Wax. I'm wondering what other spray sealants/waxes you've tried and liked that wiped away cleanly with minimal effort.
Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz and High Gloss are two of my favorites, they wipe super clean for me but are just crazy expensive. I always had great success with Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish and the rest of the Optimum Opti-Seal style spray sealants in terms of how cleanly they buff into the paint. Bead Maker and Chemical Guys V7 wipe pretty cleanly for me as well. Some products can be a bit oily, leaving behind some residuals but not have a tendency to want to streak. But Seal N Shine and Reload are two that are heavy enough to cause color streaking and you may have issues getting them to level down well.
If a product gets streaky on me, I’ll spray it into a microfiber pad or towel and then apply it to the surface. Or I’ll follow it up with a damp microfiber towel.
With Seal and Shine, my best results were achieved by spraying it into an applicator pad first. Too much streaking by following the instructions. Just my experience.
I use Turtle Wax Carnauba Wash and Wax to clean my vehicle. Will this Carnauba Wash and Wax remove Seal N Shine coating after washing?
No.
can turtle wax seal n shine be applied in direct sunlight? and use as a topper for Cquartz ceramic coat?
I would avoid using it on hotter paint and I would not recommend it for CQuartz, it’s too heavy and you’re going to reduce the hydrophobic performance that CQuartz offers by topping it with Seal N Shine.
I've had much better luck with Seal N Shine over the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Wax. Unprepped Seal N Shine I get about 6 weeks. That's with washing everyday with an alkaline based soap. Hybrid ceramic I drove through 1 rain storm and where the road spray hit it was gone.
Appreciate the feedback Matt. I'm still seeing very good performance out of the Ceramic Spray Coating in the durability tests so far, and we've been getting absolutely hammered by massive rains here in Florida on the daily drivers. I might set up a new batch and put this new Seal N Shine right next to the Ceramic Spray Coating to see how both hold up side by side in a long term test.
What's the difference between seal n shine and their spray ice wax?
How does this compare to Griots Ceramic Spray? Similar durability do you think?
Great question! Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax has perhaps had the best hydrophobic staying power out of all of the consumer spray sealants and ceramics that I've tested in the long term durability tests so far. That includes Meguiar's HCW, Seal N Shine, Ceramic Spray Coating, and Mothers CMX. Griot's has been a surprisingly good performing protectant.
How about spray the seal and shine on, and spread it out with a wet microfiber towel?
You can use it wet, but I like to use it dry, and then follow up with the damp wipedown if I need it. It’s too heavy for my liking to use it as a drying aid so that’s why I don’t like using it wet, I’d rather use the Ice Spray Wax on top as a drying aid instead for maintenance.
On the first application I would prefer to apply with the dry microfiber so that you get full 100% contact of Seal N Shine on the paint without dilution from the wet microfiber. Then use a damp towel for backup afterwards if needed, that way you get the best performance on direct contact for what Seal N Shine offers for the original application.
Just changing the fragrance is good enough for me. The original smell is horrible. Reminds me of old man's Aqua Velva. 😂
Yeah the original smell reminded me of this baby powder air freshener that people would get when I was working at a detail center a while ago. I was a bit disappointed with it because this smell was carried over directly from the Express Shine Spray Wax which they list as a "pine" scent in the MSDS, and so it was a bit out of place that they would use that scent instead of something much more aligned to the fruity/tropical scent of the rest of the ICE lineup. This grape scent is much better, at least for me!
@@WaxMode When I first started detailing I was like "who cares what it smells like?". Now I can see it definitely makes the user experience much better. I use a grape scented tire dressing that I actually enjoying using just because of the scent. But obviously it has to perform also.
Nice vid Bud.
great vid as usual.....there is a game-changer out there....the NSP line by dr beasleys….even mike phillips from autogeek stated in his review....as has all who have tried it.....it is definitely one u need to review/get familiar with....fyi my friend
Thanks John! I definitely want to grab a hold of some of their NSP products, I saw Brian at Apex did a great video of the line and they've got some really cool chemistry going on. I like the idea of a primer for the coatings to latch on to, rather than going straight on top of bare clearcoat. And I've played around with Essence and Gyeon Primer over the years but haven't focused down on any long term testing with them. Would be interesting to run a test with the Dr. Beasley line compared to how Essence and Primer works for the coatings, and whether or not a specific primer can really increase coating bonding and prolong durability.
@@WaxMode when u use the NSP it lays down a matrix for the coatings to bond to.....due to ingredients u also DO NOT USE A PAINT PREP AFTER USING.....U GO DIRECTLY TO APPLYING COATING - NO WAITING OR CURE TIME....the abrasives are all the same size - a costly manufacturing process - but the results are such that the panel/cut is equal thoughout resulting in the most level surface possible to achieve the highest gloss. fyi the 150 is 1.5 micron abrasives - the 95 is .95 - and the 45 as u can guess is .45 microns. mike phillips stated by far the best cut he has ever seen/achieved.....not even sonax/3d and the others come close....and simce abrasives are equal in size the also cut quickly...saving time....even tho cycle time is loonnggg!! enjoy
Wow they doubled the price...just proof that all good things must come to and end 😌
Retail price for this should still be around $12, which is what the previous version sold for. Some retailers like Walmart and Amazon were able to sell between $6-$9, I would not be expecting this price to change for those retailers.
ha..its $25 at Autozone
Jimmy D - Autozone is on crack with their pricing. Check Advance Auto, this is where I bought this bottle for $12.
Glad I bought 5 bottles when it was 6 bucks...I saw the greed in the works 😒
@@WaxMode yeah i had to do a doubletake when i saw it.. went online to confirm just to make sure it wasnt a mistake and its $25 indeed..I still have 2 bottles of the original left anyways
Great video 👍🏼👍🏼
Cheers Tony! Keep up the great work on your videos and channel!
WaxMode thanks bro I appreciate that!! 👍🏼
aw hell I still have over half the bottle of the original formula. turtle wax gotta stop playin with me with all these products!
Is there any benefits to apply TW SNS on top of existing ceramic coating after maintenance wash?
I would avoid topping with Seal N Shine on the coatings, the reason is because it’s a very heavy spray topper and so you could see a reduction in the performance of the coating once Seal N Shine is on top. That’s what I noticed after topping CQUK with SNS, eventually SNS will wear away but I would stick with a lighter and more compatible coating topper. Beadmaker and Meguiar’s Hybrid Ceramic Detailer were two that did really well with all of the CQuartz coatings I tested.
@@WaxMode This makes totally sense. Thank you for the reply!
Turtle Wax ICE Seal N Shine and sonax BSD Which is more durable?Can they work at the same time? Form an independent protection layer？
BSD was durable for me up to 4 months. Seal N Shine should be able to get you there as well but they’re both very different from each other. We aren’t sure what kind of protective components are in BSD’s formula, the latest version of Seal N Shine had specific UV blockers added for increased UV protection. BSD is heavy enough where you could apply on top of Seal N Shine. BSD will also be more hydrophobic compared to Seal N Shine.
@@WaxMode nice! Thank you!
What would you say has best ease of use with highest gloss?
I tried seal n shine and stopped immediately. I have a 2017 F250,...doesn’t fit in the garage so in the sun I have to work. Ultimate fast finish will continue to be used due to its easy application and removal.
Ultimate Fast Finish is a phenomenal spray sealant to work with. So easy to get a clean wipeoff when using it, I'm really hoping Meguiar's doesn't discontinue it. Definitely an easy choice for a good sealant to use after hours of polishing.
I found the original Seal n Shine could dull the gloss on my car, has anyone else noticed this?
Also, is the a difference in the gloss level between the original and the revised product?
Hey Philip, the gloss levels between the two of these were very similar when reading from my glossmeter. Let me know if you see a bump up in the gloss after the next wash, this does bump the readings up for me after the wash to match the levels that I was getting after polishing the paint with Sonax Perfect Finish. So I know the gloss potential is very high for Seal N Shine, but the residuals left behind can possibly be reducing the noticeable gloss until they're washed off.
I noticed it’s not as shiny as ceramic. Ceramic on my car and Seal nShine on the wife’s
I had the same results... could not buff this product out, I had to use maguires cleaner wax to remove seal and shine. I'm sticking to maguires spray wax.
@Todd More, I made sure I applied it very thinly but I didn't use a damp microfiber to buff off maybe I'll try that next time.
Take care buddy.
@@HantsLeo ...Yes sir, I washed my car today and used maguires Wax as you dry with amazing results. How long it will last is another story. Stay safe my friend