Turtle Wax - "Anyone have anything to go against my Ice Seal n Shine?" Competition -........................... Turtle Wax - " Fine. I'll do it myself."
The hybrid solution is trash imo compared to the original formula.... it takes 24hr (maybe longer) to cure vs instant. if you have fog/wet climate, prepare to have tons of water spots. worst thing is if you have any trees near by. tree oil and water spot = nightmare. stick with seal and shine. I'll say the only thing you gain from hybrid is a little more gloss.
New Seal n Shine is better for durability than ceramic spray coating. But Ceramic Spray coating has better gloss. Thats from my own personal 4 month study with half the hood using seal n shine new formula and the other half using ceramic spray coating. One thorough hand wash once a week. Both given a full 24 hour cure. No second coat and no toppers. Next time I will do a second coat for both 24 hours after the 1st coat and see which one lasts longer. My money is on Seal n Shine.
Amazon had 6 bottles for $49 a few months ago, now they're $15 a bottle. I guess they were trying to get rid of the old stock to make room for the new one.
I bought my 3 bottles in may 2019 when they were 5 or 6. I haven't looked but I'm betting they were the old and they were liquidating it before releasing the "improved". But not sure
This stuff was unbelievable and now it's just...it's just...WOW! How did they improve the unimprovable at this pp? TW just gets it done beyond all expectation hands down. I use the original and have been for a while (after watching your torture tests) and will continue to use their Ice line. I can't wait to use the new formula. This stuff is just fantastic! Great job as always Jimbo!
Thing is, having been around for as long, they probably have a lot of more money available to invest in the research than other companies. Meguiar's could do the same, but I feel they prefer to capitalize on what's trendy on the moment whereas you can clearly see Turtle Wax went their own way with the ICE lineup and completely hit a homer with it.
Maybe, they wanted to not only change the smell, but also reduce or eliminate the haze when applied in sunlight, someone said that they added UV protection but I think it BS. Can you top the old formula with M synthetic xpress wax or Bead maker? Anyone tried topping with bead maker every other wash ?
Seal N Shine mixed with their Ice Spray Wax is a powerful combo. Beats most entry/mid-range ceramic coatings. Makes me think why they even came out with a hybrid ceramic line when their ICE line is so powerful.
I never tried it lol I’ll try it to my car 😃 I detail cars and offer the ice spray wax as the lower end or base and seal n shine to higher end but I’ll definitely try both on 😆😆😆
@@lifesstudent4278 If you have time, you want them both to cure before applying. So for example, use seal n shine, then let cure for a few hours. The go back over with spray wax and let cure. In the future, after every maintenance wash, use the spray wax to finish and top off on seal n shine every 4-6 months. If you don't let them cure before layering, sure it will still be great protection, but they may not adhere correctly and it could be a waste of product. With how cheap turtle wax products are though, you could use seal n shine for everything and get great results.
U.V. protection and scent are the differences that I am aware of for the new formula. I love Seal And Shine. It is a fine, fine product. Something would have to be incredibly good for me to get off of Turtle Wax Seal And Shine.
From another test, gloss readings improved with the new formula. The old formula either lost a little gloss or not changed. Once again, not my observation, but another channel's test.
Thank you, I've been using the new formula for about a year now. But, I made a mistake and bought 2 bottles of the old. So now I guess I'll be doing my own text. Great video.
What's is the difference with flex wax and a detailer. What is the reason to use a detailer when you can use TW FLEX WAX OR WET WAX? OR SHeal n shine when it costs 6 7 8 pounds vs 14 16 of Detailer or flex wax?
Jimbo have you used Zep truck and trailer wash? If you have what’s your take on it? That would be a good video for those that want to do touch less wash.
First of all, I love your reviews. You convinced me to grab a bottle. In love with it. Secondly, you sound like Nick Swardson to me and it makes me love you more.
You mean you've done a total of 8 coats throughout ownership right. I read that as you putting 8 coats on at once. Most I've ever done is 3 out of curiosity.
@@autodetailingpodcast yea I just always walk through the auto part at Walmart and they had bunch of car stuff marked down. They had 4 bottles, I took 3. Didnt wanna be too greedy
I've used the new formula and it still falls short on UV/heat resistance. I live in Texas and it did not hold up well in constant 95-100 degree weather /sunlight after about a month. While it's still a good deal for $10 there are better products to use with better UV protection.
That is the biggest variables missing from any torture test, missing the factor of time and UV deterioration. Yeah, the adams graphene spray mightve failed the torture test quicker, but in real life in Colorado, from my experience, adams holds up much better than seal n shine on dark colors. However, $10 and being widely available, tw makes a desirable product.
I. Surprised it didn’t last in heat with you, considering Apex detail put a heat gun/torch on it with the original formula. What other products have you tried that has lasted better for you?
@@LoveLikeaHurricane I have not done any controlled experiments, but for example griot's 3 in 1 ceramic spray lasted longer on my sisters car than seal and shine on my bro in laws car. Bro in law csr is black. Sisters car is a dark gun metal grey. Both are regularly garaged. Both applied around the same time. That is the best anecdotal evidence I have. I have strong suspensions that many sealants and spray ceramics outperform seal and shine. Dont get me wrong, tw has pushed the envelope and makes a good product, for the price. There's no doubt seal and shine has superior chemical resistance with no cure than probably anything I've seen and is certainly interesting to watch be exposed to these tests. Im saying that initial chemical resistance doesn't necessarily translate to real world longevity when accounting for time and uv/heat exposure, nor does seal and shine provide any gloss or depth enhancement.
The problem with your hypothesis is obviously far too many variables. What we do know from Apex detail and especially wax mode is there are few if any products that outperform turtle wax. Real world tests, in the Florida heat. As far as gloss, seal n shine and most definitely the new formula 100% increases gloss. Remember the human eye can only see a 4-6 difference in gloss units. The evidence is all over the place, but many people will always believe the more expensive product is somehow better because it makes them feel better about wasting their money. What we have here is an outlier, a company that should be praised for not taking advantage of the public. Not many products like this in any industry. Why not enjoy it?
@@gk7588 I'm glad you get nearly unbeatable results with a $10 product. I agree that tw pushes the consumer market with their pricing vs performance. I have never had more than a few months of protection from seal n shine topped with ice spray wax and never had the gloss enhanced that i could tell a difference. Granted the initial chemical resistance of seal n shine is amazing to watch on torture tests. Add time and UV, it will break down like all sealants and waxes. If you want that seal n shine effect to last for more than a year, you will be looking at true ceramic coatings. It is nice to know that you can swing by any Walmart or autozone and get a dependable product for the price. I think you would be hard pressed to find a detailer who wouldn't appreciate seal n shine for what it is. However, seal n shine isn't the best product once you start looking past initial chemical resistance. I would rather use a product that smells better and doesn't streak on black paint and sacrifice some longevity. If you use anything other than TW, you will likely be paying considerably more.
The new product has an added UV protection that isn't found on the older version. I believe this is why the new product breaks down a little faster in the chemical test. The more stuff you add to a product, there's a greater chance that it won't bond as well.
I've been using Fusso topped with BSD on a regular basis. Nothing I've seen is as hydrophobic as this combo. It's a great barrier against contamination. I think this is a point being missed on longevity tests. So the LSP resists water and chemicals how about contamination? After 18 months of using my combo on a daily driver it had tiny amounts of fall-out and did not need claying before polishing the car.
@@cyclonehebb06rt sorry mate, Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer (aka BSD). Check out Brian's Apex Detailing and Wax Mode reviews on it if you haven't tried it before.
Thanks. Small suggestion: consider removing the "did they actually make it worse?" from the title - this actually gives me the strong expectation you were going to say that they DID make it worse, and I nearly didn't bother watching. (I'm an Aussie - maybe others don't share my comprehension of the comment?). Why not be more positive - "an improvement on an already excellent product?" - something like that.
I wonder if the Turtle Wax Ice&Shine can ever be washed out? does it really get into your paint? it looks like it soaks into your paint and I wonder if that is what people want? And how about Microfibers actually? Can you wash out the wax out it I am wondering😕
What's your honest opinion on products like SnS that preform as well as they do especially for the price and "professional" detailers who will refuse to use it on their clients cars and label it as just a hobbyist or armatures product? The shit clearly works and really well. You either have to buff it off or use strong chemicals to remove it completely
What's is the difference with flex wax and a detailer. What is the reason to use a detailer when you can use TW FLEX WAX OR WET WAX? OR SHeal n shine when it costs 6 7 8 pounds vs 14 16 of Detailer or flex wax?
I put on the original version on my wife’s car in December. It’s now May & it still beads up. Keep in mind I live in Chicago. We had a bad winter! Several days below zero. Ton of snow. In February we had 19” with 3 foot drifts. Seal & shines said “is that all you got”?
Seal N shine not available here in the U.K. but there is a TW product in a black bottle called Sealant hydrophobic wax. Is it the same as seal and shine with a different name for the U.K. market I wonder?
Yeah I asked Turtle Wax sweden when this product comes out here. Early 2021 they said. Iguess I just have to wait. Probably better products out there by the time this comes to Europe (or sweden atleast )
I like the smell of the original better than the new one. I have experienced the streaking issues, I've been going back over the car with a quick detailer, to remove the streaking.
Ya the streaking drives me insane on the new one. I’ve noticed if you spray less product it definitely helps. Luckily I have one bottle of the original left. I prefer using it
Jimbo, I’m running into a smearing problem with this especially on glass. Glass is cleaned, decontaminated and clayed. Then cleaned again to make sure nothings on it. SNS applied, leaves smears. Changed MFrags, same effect, different window applied much less, same problem. Can’t figure it out.
It definitely looks like the original broke faster and to be honest the original is a Fantastic product. Turtle Wax Seal n Shine is besting everyone, especially for the price you are paying.
I've been using original Fusso topped with BSD on a regular basis. Nothing I've seen is as hydrophobic as this combo. It's a great barrier against contamination. I think this is a point being missed on longevity tests. So Seal and Shine resists water and chemicals, how about contamination? After 18 months of using my combo on a daily driver it had tiny amounts of fall-out and did not need claying before polishing the car. That's what really matters to me.
Totally pointless. Hit it with a high pH shampoo from a pressure washer. And then see what happens! Lots of folk have to occasionally take their car to the car wash where they do high pressure rinse off. Then blanket it in a very high pH shampoo before hand washing it. I have Never seen a car drive away with any protection still on it.! 😳 I have to use it during the Winter months due to mobility issues but I take my own bucket, mitt and shampoo! I won't let them use their products on my car 👍🏴
I went ahead and picked up both bottles of the improved formulas a couple weeks ago! After watching a couple detailers doing reviews on both of the improved formulas was like whelp guess I better buy this new stuff since it’s actually better lol
I’ve used the regular Turtle wax ice spray wax and loved it. Just used the seal and shine for the first time and that was miserable. Soooooo Streaky. Will never use it again.
Hi Jimbo, I switched to sns about a year ago on my weekend car. I used to be a regular wax type of guy, however I like how with videos like yours, I get to see the torture tests. I have noticed that the rock chips and small scratches appears more now then ever. I’m still new to sns and am wondering what you recommend for added layer of protection from people leaning on the car and more gritty stuff besides lights road grime (oils) and rain.
Hmm even ceramic coats don't protect your car from rock chips. I'd say a wrap is the best protection to protect your paint from rock chips. Caramics are tough but not enough to handle a beating like that.
I’m a McGuires guy, but think I’ll be trying this out. I live in the north and our winters are cold and wet, I’m looking for something that will hold up for 6 months of winter 🥶
I have a little secret for you I don't use microfiber or any cloth when applying wax. I use a latex glove. It absorbs nothing and spreads great and I do get a longer lasting coating since it doesn't absorb anything and the coating seems thicker but then I started applying less since it isn't absorbed by the cloth so I end up using less now and the bottle lasts me longer. I do allow a half day at least to dry then I use a damp soft cotton hand towel to lightly buff it shiny. Wife probably bought some already for cleaning around the house anyway. Costs nothing when buying a box at Walmart. If they're old they'll be yellow and/or cracked. I haven't tried nitrile gloves but I think they'll still work.
Thank you turtle wax , this product it’s like a nightmare for lots of expensive high quality companies .
For sure!
that's a fact! really!
and get ready because a turtle Wax Graphene it's coming!
Rafael looking forward bro .
Exactly, was looking at ceramic coating.... some places charges $400 to apply... crazy
Turtle Wax - "Anyone have anything to go against my Ice Seal n Shine?"
Competition -...........................
Turtle Wax - " Fine. I'll do it myself."
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"We all know what Seal and Shine is all about"..... pretty much says it all about TW S&S!
Thanks so much for these great tests!!!!!!!!!!!!
TW Ice Seal N Shine Improved Formula vs TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Wax
Pretty sure the original formula held up against it anyway
The hybrid solution is trash imo compared to the original formula.... it takes 24hr (maybe longer) to cure vs instant. if you have fog/wet climate, prepare to have tons of water spots. worst thing is if you have any trees near by. tree oil and water spot = nightmare. stick with seal and shine. I'll say the only thing you gain from hybrid is a little more gloss.
I like using Turtle Wax Seal & Shine, and sometimes lay down a coat of Bead Maker as a topper. Outstanding performance and super gloss!
Seal and shine by far
New Seal n Shine is better for durability than ceramic spray coating. But Ceramic Spray coating has better gloss. Thats from my own personal 4 month study with half the hood using seal n shine new formula and the other half using ceramic spray coating. One thorough hand wash once a week. Both given a full 24 hour cure. No second coat and no toppers. Next time I will do a second coat for both 24 hours after the 1st coat and see which one lasts longer. My money is on Seal n Shine.
Jimbo, you're the best, or at least my favorite youtube detailer. I just relate to your style and appreciate your content. Keep it up, my man
I'll second that!
Thank you guys!
Already using it and loving it. Crazy. Still blows my mind. This blows away almost every spray sealant out there.
I still have 4 bottles of that when the original was $6
Amazon had 6 bottles for $49 a few months ago, now they're $15 a bottle. I guess they were trying to get rid of the old stock to make room for the new one.
I bought my 3 bottles in may 2019 when they were 5 or 6. I haven't looked but I'm betting they were the old and they were liquidating it before releasing the "improved". But not sure
That's no bad thing 😂 maybe keep 1 closed & put it up safe, coz down the line this stuff will be a collector's piece.
Nice one, still got a full pot of the original but the new version seems more durable, mire hydrophobic and has the new addition of UV protection!
This stuff was unbelievable and now it's just...it's just...WOW! How did they improve the unimprovable at this pp? TW just gets it done beyond all expectation hands down. I use the original and have been for a while (after watching your torture tests) and will continue to use their Ice line. I can't wait to use the new formula. This stuff is just fantastic! Great job as always Jimbo!
Thing is, having been around for as long, they probably have a lot of more money available to invest in the research than other companies. Meguiar's could do the same, but I feel they prefer to capitalize on what's trendy on the moment whereas you can clearly see Turtle Wax went their own way with the ICE lineup and completely hit a homer with it.
I just did a customers car with the new formula and they were very impressed how it looked afterwards.
Lamo i just bought the improved one yesterday and love this review 😆😆 made me feel good inside watching this tbh 😏👌😁
I use this on a lot of customer cars, and it's good to know the new formula is even better! Thanks for the video.
Maybe, they wanted to not only change the smell, but also reduce or eliminate the haze when applied in sunlight, someone said that they added UV protection but I think it BS. Can you top the old formula with M synthetic xpress wax or Bead maker? Anyone tried topping with bead maker every other wash ?
Seal N Shine mixed with their Ice Spray Wax is a powerful combo. Beats most entry/mid-range ceramic coatings. Makes me think why they even came out with a hybrid ceramic line when their ICE line is so powerful.
Agreed, hope they do an AIO on ICE line with sealant like seal shine
I never tried it lol I’ll try it to my car 😃 I detail cars and offer the ice spray wax as the lower end or base and seal n shine to higher end but I’ll definitely try both on 😆😆😆
@@lifesstudent4278 If you have time, you want them both to cure before applying. So for example, use seal n shine, then let cure for a few hours. The go back over with spray wax and let cure. In the future, after every maintenance wash, use the spray wax to finish and top off on seal n shine every 4-6 months. If you don't let them cure before layering, sure it will still be great protection, but they may not adhere correctly and it could be a waste of product. With how cheap turtle wax products are though, you could use seal n shine for everything and get great results.
Awesome video!! Turtlewax has definitely updated their game on and already impressive product!!
According to turtle wax the main difference is the durability
Simply amazing. I can't believe Turtle Wax has been able to make a great product even better. I will definitely pick up the new Seal N Shine.
Better hurry. Trump says he is going to ban selling it because Joe Biden uses SNS II on his Corvette.....
@@billiebobbienorton2556 😂😂
U.V. protection and scent are the differences that I am aware of for the new formula.
I love Seal And Shine. It is a fine, fine product. Something would have to be incredibly good for me to get off of Turtle Wax Seal And Shine.
I think the main thing they did to the new version. Is add more and or added UV protection. From what I've researched.
Missed some gloss readings to know if there's difference.
From another test, gloss readings improved with the new formula. The old formula either lost a little gloss or not changed. Once again, not my observation, but another channel's test.
Scott Mattern can you share the link thanks.
@@kickz_on_bikes9962 ruclips.net/video/49DtbUBHMpg/видео.html I think it was here
Thank you, I've been using the new formula for about a year now. But, I made a mistake and bought 2 bottles of the old. So now I guess I'll be doing my own text. Great video.
They need to make Turtle Wax Seal and Shine in a paste wax and liquid wax. That would be awesome
What's is the difference with flex wax and a detailer. What is the reason to use a detailer when you can use TW FLEX WAX OR WET WAX? OR SHeal n shine when it costs 6 7 8 pounds vs 14 16 of Detailer or flex wax?
How does the 2.0 stack up against the hybrid ceramic spray?
Great product, worth every penny. Lasts long, shines great, super easy to put on and off.
Can we use this on top of other waxes?
Already pick up 2 bottles, this product is amazing.
I always cure my applications 24 hours for each coat even if they say not necessary!
Jimbo have you used Zep truck and trailer wash? If you have what’s your take on it? That would be a good video for those that want to do touch less wash.
I meant brushless car wash.
Can you start including brake cleaner in a durability test? Or just see how it holds up to like a CRC non chlorinated brake clean?
Jimbo you crack me up with your smell tests in all of your videos 🤣🤣
TW Seal N Shine Improved formula + New formula TW Wax Ice stacked vs One high end professional ceramic coating. This will be the fight to watch
First of all, I love your reviews. You convinced me to grab a bottle. In love with it. Secondly, you sound like Nick Swardson to me and it makes me love you more.
Hahaha. Thanks
This is my go to for my painted wheels. One spray per wheel per week.
good idea!
@@autodetailingpodcast I am not sure if its overkill, but its cheap enough that I can use about 4 sprays a week to protect my wheels.
On my 2018 Fords I had 8 coats of TW Caruba wax before my first use of TWISS and I found the beading and slickness,,, Amazing!
You mean you've done a total of 8 coats throughout ownership right. I read that as you putting 8 coats on at once. Most I've ever done is 3 out of curiosity.
Could you do a TLC2 VS SEAL AND SHINE?
Just got some the day using my advance Auto speed perks. I love you send the carnauba spray cleaner wax from turtle Wax so I'm anxious to try this.
Try using Dawn Powerwash spray as a detergent stripper to see how future products hold up.
Could 2.0 compete in durability against CQuartz lite? Thanks
Great video buddy tfs I was waiting on this
Can you do a comparison between the Adam's Graphene 7 year vs Ethos' 5 year graphene coating?
Wow. Watching this right after watching Adams Graphene coating video. S&S is remarkable. You saved me from making a needless purchase
Great sealant for the money. Happened to spot my local Walmart had it marked down from 20 bucks to 2.50 a bottle. Grabbed a few at that price
damn..ive never seen it that cheap. Thats a steal
@@autodetailingpodcast yea I just always walk through the auto part at Walmart and they had bunch of car stuff marked down. They had 4 bottles, I took 3. Didnt wanna be too greedy
I've used the new formula and it still falls short on UV/heat resistance. I live in Texas and it did not hold up well in constant 95-100 degree weather /sunlight after about a month. While it's still a good deal for $10 there are better products to use with better UV protection.
That is the biggest variables missing from any torture test, missing the factor of time and UV deterioration. Yeah, the adams graphene spray mightve failed the torture test quicker, but in real life in Colorado, from my experience, adams holds up much better than seal n shine on dark colors. However, $10 and being widely available, tw makes a desirable product.
I. Surprised it didn’t last in heat with you, considering Apex detail put a heat gun/torch on it with the original formula.
What other products have you tried that has lasted better for you?
@@LoveLikeaHurricane I have not done any controlled experiments, but for example griot's 3 in 1 ceramic spray lasted longer on my sisters car than seal and shine on my bro in laws car. Bro in law csr is black. Sisters car is a dark gun metal grey. Both are regularly garaged. Both applied around the same time. That is the best anecdotal evidence I have. I have strong suspensions that many sealants and spray ceramics outperform seal and shine. Dont get me wrong, tw has pushed the envelope and makes a good product, for the price. There's no doubt seal and shine has superior chemical resistance with no cure than probably anything I've seen and is certainly interesting to watch be exposed to these tests. Im saying that initial chemical resistance doesn't necessarily translate to real world longevity when accounting for time and uv/heat exposure, nor does seal and shine provide any gloss or depth enhancement.
The problem with your hypothesis is obviously far too many variables. What we do know from Apex detail and especially wax mode is there are few if any products that outperform turtle wax. Real world tests, in the Florida heat. As far as gloss, seal n shine and most definitely the new formula 100% increases gloss. Remember the human eye can only see a 4-6 difference in gloss units. The evidence is all over the place, but many people will always believe the more expensive product is somehow better because it makes them feel better about wasting their money. What we have here is an outlier, a company that should be praised for not taking advantage of the public. Not many products like this in any industry. Why not enjoy it?
@@gk7588 I'm glad you get nearly unbeatable results with a $10 product. I agree that tw pushes the consumer market with their pricing vs performance. I have never had more than a few months of protection from seal n shine topped with ice spray wax and never had the gloss enhanced that i could tell a difference. Granted the initial chemical resistance of seal n shine is amazing to watch on torture tests. Add time and UV, it will break down like all sealants and waxes. If you want that seal n shine effect to last for more than a year, you will be looking at true ceramic coatings. It is nice to know that you can swing by any Walmart or autozone and get a dependable product for the price. I think you would be hard pressed to find a detailer who wouldn't appreciate seal n shine for what it is. However, seal n shine isn't the best product once you start looking past initial chemical resistance. I would rather use a product that smells better and doesn't streak on black paint and sacrifice some longevity. If you use anything other than TW, you will likely be paying considerably more.
Wow! Impressive. Thanks for this great test.
The new product has an added UV protection that isn't found on the older version. I believe this is why the new product breaks down a little faster in the chemical test. The more stuff you add to a product, there's a greater chance that it won't bond as well.
Old stuff was breaking faster
How about seal and Shine versus Fuso soft coat?
I've been using Fusso topped with BSD on a regular basis. Nothing I've seen is as hydrophobic as this combo. It's a great barrier against contamination. I think this is a point being missed on longevity tests. So the LSP resists water and chemicals how about contamination? After 18 months of using my combo on a daily driver it had tiny amounts of fall-out and did not need claying before polishing the car.
@@JWL-UK bsd?
@@cyclonehebb06rt sorry mate, Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer (aka BSD). Check out Brian's Apex Detailing and Wax Mode reviews on it if you haven't tried it before.
Yep I'm definitely picking some up, very impressive!
Whats the difference between ceramic coatings and turtle wax spray and shine? A: Ceramic Coatings are not permanent.
So Jimbo, would you recommend using the Seal N Shine as a maintenance product over their Ceramic Spray Wax? I use Beadmaker now. Thank you...
I have the old formula works great! But h2o guard and gloss still my go to sealant.
Is it fine to apply ice seal and shine on top of CQUK 3.0 ceramic coating?
yes
Thanks. Small suggestion: consider removing the "did they actually make it worse?" from the title - this actually gives me the strong expectation you were going to say that they DID make it worse, and I nearly didn't bother watching. (I'm an Aussie - maybe others don't share my comprehension of the comment?). Why not be more positive - "an improvement on an already excellent product?" - something like that.
Why do you change the camera perspective after introducing which product is where? Just keep the camera pointed the same way.
I wonder if the Turtle Wax Ice&Shine can ever be washed out? does it really get into your paint? it looks like it soaks into your paint and I wonder if that is what people want? And how about Microfibers actually? Can you wash out the wax out it I am wondering😕
What's your honest opinion on products like SnS that preform as well as they do especially for the price and "professional" detailers who will refuse to use it on their clients cars and label it as just a hobbyist or armatures product? The shit clearly works and really well. You either have to buff it off or use strong chemicals to remove it completely
New and improved adds uv protection
What's is the difference with flex wax and a detailer. What is the reason to use a detailer when you can use TW FLEX WAX OR WET WAX? OR SHeal n shine when it costs 6 7 8 pounds vs 14 16 of Detailer or flex wax?
I put on the original version on my wife’s car in December. It’s now May & it still beads up. Keep in mind I live in Chicago. We had a bad winter! Several days below zero. Ton of snow. In February we had 19” with 3 foot drifts. Seal & shines said “is that all you got”?
Impressive!
Seal N shine not available here in the U.K. but there is a TW product in a black bottle called Sealant hydrophobic wax. Is it the same as seal and shine with a different name for the U.K. market I wonder?
Ya pretty sure it’s the same
@@autodetailingpodcast Many thanks for your reply. I enjoy your tests, they're a real eye-opener. You do a good job.
Yes it's the same, this was confirmed by TW. On Pan's channel. But we don't get the new formula yet.
@@almograve Many thanks for that info.
Yeah I asked Turtle Wax sweden when this product comes out here. Early 2021 they said. Iguess I just have to wait. Probably better products out there by the time this comes to Europe (or sweden atleast )
Great test, can you compare to the Last Coat. Thanks
Hey can you review Dr. Beasley's Formula 1201? Really interested to see how it performs.
It's very hard to find the "improved formula" on Amazon or other retail stores.
The new one definitely applies better without smearing
New Formula is a beast
Did you ever do the S&S vs the flex graphene spray?
I like the smell of the original better than the new one. I have experienced the streaking issues, I've been going back over the car with a quick detailer, to remove the streaking.
Really? I couldn’t stand the original scent
Ya the streaking drives me insane on the new one. I’ve noticed if you spray less product it definitely helps. Luckily I have one bottle of the original left. I prefer using it
Jimbo, I’m running into a smearing problem with this especially on glass. Glass is cleaned, decontaminated and clayed. Then cleaned again to make sure nothings on it. SNS applied, leaves smears. Changed MFrags, same effect, different window applied much less, same problem. Can’t figure it out.
Use VERY sparingly. A light spray on surface or towel with distilled h2o ($2@CVS) will eliminate clouding/smearing.
Audie Conrad I’ll give it a try. Thank you for the advice.
Hey,Can I use meguire ultimate compound followed by turtle new improved seal and shine sealent??
Picked up a bottle last night
It definitely looks like the original broke faster and to be honest the original is a Fantastic product. Turtle Wax Seal n Shine is besting everyone, especially for the price you are paying.
Love this video great job buddy
How do you know the difference when your at the store? I've noticed numbers being different 50984 old new 50997.
I thin Pan said they added UV protection. Happy 60k.
So does it really matter if I get the improved version
Is there anything that CAN remove it easily other than polishing?
So is hybrid ceramic spray still better than improved formula?
Does the current stuff you buy now have the "improved" yellow tag on the front or did they take it off because it's been a few years.
its prob gone away, i would assume they only do it for the first new run.
@@autodetailingpodcast ok thanks.
I've been using original Fusso topped with BSD on a regular basis. Nothing I've seen is as hydrophobic as this combo. It's a great barrier against contamination. I think this is a point being missed on longevity tests. So Seal and Shine resists water and chemicals, how about contamination? After 18 months of using my combo on a daily driver it had tiny amounts of fall-out and did not need claying before polishing the car. That's what really matters to me.
Totally pointless.
Hit it with a high pH shampoo from a pressure washer.
And then see what happens!
Lots of folk have to occasionally take their car to the car wash where they do high pressure rinse off.
Then blanket it in a very high pH shampoo before hand washing it.
I have Never seen a car drive away with any protection still on it.! 😳
I have to use it during the Winter months due to mobility issues but I take my own bucket, mitt and shampoo!
I won't let them use their products on my car 👍🏴
I went ahead and picked up both bottles of the improved formulas a couple weeks ago! After watching a couple detailers doing reviews on both of the improved formulas was like whelp guess I better buy this new stuff since it’s actually better lol
You ever going to sell the hose nozzles?
Thanks Jimbo !
Why is seal n shine not available in europe?
Can you please do one of Chemical Guys Blazin Banana Carnauba Spray Wax vs the butter wet wax.
Hey! how does the updated formula compare against the TW hybrid ceramic spray? what would you recommend
The new improved formula should be available in Australia in about 15 years. I can't wait :)
Hey dude, how many days it will last on rainy day
Can I apply this after wash without claying or polishing?
Yes
Hey brother can you compare the new Turtle wax seal and shine VS Beadmaker.
Hey he's not your brother. If you want something ask nice.Respect the man. Don't bring him down to your level, understand?!?!?
New formula Ice Seal n Shine vs new Nufinish better than wax ceramic spray!!! Let's see who's tougher!
How can this be an equal test when you douse each portion willy nilly and one panel may absorb more reactant than the other!
Whered you get your vaccum at? The air blower its really good
The new seal n shine is very tough great video buddy tfs
I'm curious as to what brand tape you are using?
I’ve used the regular Turtle wax ice spray wax and loved it. Just used the seal and shine for the first time and that was miserable. Soooooo Streaky. Will never use it again.
Ice spray wax is one of my all time favs
Hi Jimbo, I switched to sns about a year ago on my weekend car. I used to be a regular wax type of guy, however I like how with videos like yours, I get to see the torture tests. I have noticed that the rock chips and small scratches appears more now then ever. I’m still new to sns and am wondering what you recommend for added layer of protection from people leaning on the car and more gritty stuff besides lights road grime (oils) and rain.
Hmm even ceramic coats don't protect your car from rock chips. I'd say a wrap is the best protection to protect your paint from rock chips. Caramics are tough but not enough to handle a beating like that.
Please Need to now new Sku.or...or the new part number thanks
Did u use turtle wax pro ceramic hybrid + 10 h??
The reviewer lost against sns gives you that feeling of wth this product is haha! Good review
TW keeps on doing it’s thing.
I’m a McGuires guy, but think I’ll be trying this out. I live in the north and our winters are cold and wet, I’m looking for something that will hold up for 6 months of winter 🥶
Seal n Shine is an amazing product. It has absolutely toasted my microfiber towels though. I haven’t found a way to make my towels absorbent again.
I have a little secret for you I don't use microfiber or any cloth when applying wax. I use a latex glove. It absorbs nothing and spreads great and I do get a longer lasting coating since it doesn't absorb anything and the coating seems thicker but then I started applying less since it isn't absorbed by the cloth so I end up using less now and the bottle lasts me longer. I do allow a half day at least to dry then I use a damp soft cotton hand towel to lightly buff it shiny. Wife probably bought some already for cleaning around the house anyway. Costs nothing when buying a box at Walmart. If they're old they'll be yellow and/or cracked. I haven't tried nitrile gloves but I think they'll still work.