Tractor Talk! Kioti CK3510SE Overview, Review, Problems, and Awesomeness! How has it been??
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- I purchased this Kioti CK3510SE HST tractor in October. It had 10 hours on it (brand new) from the dealer. At the time of this video, there was 85 hours on it. So consider this the 75 hours review! Is this one of the better compact tractors?
We go through an overview, a review, highlights of the machine, and the problems I have had. Enjoy!
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Here are the part numbers for Kioti/Bobcat for this particular tractor:
Oil Filter:
Kioti - E6201-32443
Bobcat - 7384298
Hydraulic Filter:
Kioti - T4260-38125
Bobcat - 6695918
HST Filter:
Kioti - T5855-46531
Bobcat - 7375650
Air Filter:
Kioti - E7230-11081
Bobcat - 6666333 / 7373981
Fuel Filter:
Kioti - EH35-0011A
Bobcat - 7380039
Contents:
0:00 Intro
01:34 Special Edition Overview
12:13 Maintenance
16:45 Engine Overview
18:18 Pros and Cons
23:01 Final Thoughts 
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Kioti NS5310 bought new in 2022, kick it's Ass on regular basis and absolutely no complaints, great tractors!
Butch
Ashland Ohio
Nice review. Bought my 3510se today. Pick it up Monday. Can’t wait.
This was the most helpful review I've seen. Can't wait to get one.
Thanks for the kind words!
Excellent video of the KIOTI. Thanks for the time and effort you put into it. 🤠🥃👍
Thank you!
One of the best videos on the Kioti CK I've seen. We'll done!
Glad you liked it!
Nice video. Just like you, I noticed when the regen starts on my CK4010 the light does not come on for about 1 min after it starts but I can tell it has started the process by the way the engine sounds. I’ve had about 10 to 12 regens in 338 hrs and they all work perfectly. I notice no loss of power. Keep the videos coming.
Liked your review on the Kioti ck3510. Their awesome tractors, I bought a J.d.3025e in 2018. The only reason was the dealership was 45 minutes from verses Kioti is a good two hours. My brother bought a used 35 hp Kioti with a backhoe and loader. He loves it. Its probably 12 to 15 years old and still runs great.
Just bought a Kioti 2610se cab model. Hasn't come in yet. Thanks for sharing. Mine won't have DPF, so hopefully I won't have the power issues. Keep us posted when you get new attachments.
Thank you for stepping up and letting consumers know that the Kioti tractor's quality is really good. Encouraging as I am looking at purchasing one. John Deere was way too pricy. 84,000. Thank you for your video. 😊
I got my CK3510SE in 2019. I also disliked the right hand brake pedal. I was used to using John Deere compacts that had left hand brake pedals. After doing some research up behind the dash. I discovered I could add a left hand brake pedal. I now have left & right brake pedals & love it that way. I have not noticed any issues with the engine.
Awesome! That'd be a great vid!
LOOKING TO PURCHASE ONE SOON.. tHANKS FOR YOUR REVIEW AND INPUT
Great Video. I know it's older but is going to help me decide on what to buy.
your bucket level tube is upside down, turn it around and when flush you will be level, its a common screw up made during assembly at the dealer
Great video and review! Glad you like the Kioti thus far!
Thanks!
Man, I'm with you on the Fwd / Rev pedals being separate. I love that! I test drove a Kubota and hated the rocker pedal. I, too, have a 2020 CK3510SE HST. I love it. I got the backhoe on mine and it has some amazing digging power. The only issue I've had with the tractor happened just yesterday. I have NO IDEA what caused it: I'd been working the loader pretty hard for three hours straight with the RPM's set at about 2,700 (not linked). When I was all done with the loader work, my tires were full of mud, so I decided to do some mud-slinging before putting it away.
I drove out onto the paved road that goes by the front of my house. It's a small county road and nobody is ever on it. I engaged the linked pedal, put it in 3rd (high) gear and drove about 1/4 mile as fast as I could. It was throwing mud everywhere, which is what I wanted. I got to the end of my run and turned around for a final run back to the house. I had just gotten back up to speed and the damn thing STOPPED. It was as if someone turned off the key. The engine just quit running and I came to an instant stop in the middle of the road. I got off and did a slow walk around. I lifted the hood. I checked the water level and engine oil level. Both were fine. It seemed hot, yet it didn't smell quite right because it was not the smell of antifreeze or hot oil. Rather, it smelled oddly of rubber. I checked the belt and all the hoses and the wire loom. Nothing was amiss.
"No big deal", I thought. I'll just restart and go. Except, it would not start. In fact, it would not even turn over. The starter engaged, but would not turn the engine. That seemed very much like a badly over-heated engine that had seized. That me freaked out. I thought, "Damn, man. I only have 17 hours on my new tractor and I broke it! I sure hope it's a warranty issue!"
It was nice and cool outside, about 58-degrees, so I waited about 10 minutes while I did some research on my phone. After that, I tried starting it again. This time, the starter would turn the engine over slowly, barely, but it would not fire. I went back to doing research on my phone while I waited several more minutes. I tried again. This time the starter would turn the engine over at full starting RPM, but the engine would not fire. It sounded "odd" as it was cranking. I cannot explain the odd sound, but it wasn't good. But at that point, considering I thought earlier that it had seized, it was a victory. A few more minutes of waiting and it turned over at full speed and the engine fired. Woo hoo! The engine actually started, then died a few seconds later. I repeated that with the same result, so I waited some more. This time, I got to watching a couple RUclips videos on my phone and it was nearly half an hour before I tried to start the tractor again. When I did try, it started right up as if there'd never been a problem. It fired on the first revolution and idled at normal RPM with normal sound. Call me stumped.
I did another walk-around while it was idling. There was no smoke or steam or stink of any kind - not even the rubber I thought I smelled before. No squeaking or creaking. Nothing dripping. I was very relieved. I hopped back on and did my return 1/4 mile high-speed run in high gear. Zero problem. I drove into the tractor's parking spot in the shed and let it idle a bit. I tried different RPM's. No problem. It worked as if it was brand new. And that's it. I have not tried it today so I have no further update. I'm no diesel mechanic, but I am a relatively decent shade-tree gas engine mechanic. All of my senses told me that it had overheated. BADLY. Yet there was no proof of it, so I'm stumped. I'll see how it goes the next time I put it to work.
Keep an eye on it, and try to replicate the issue. But something doesn't sound right.
That was a VERY through explanation of your delema. With Such low hours; No "Break-in" & FULL "maniac power" the tractor was just smarter than you and shut itself down before the "joy-rider" reduced it to junk. Bet you just "signed with your good credit" & drove away "Without A DIME in IT". Most likely the "Operator's Manual " is STILL IN the Wrapper. IF you take care of your machinery- it will take care of You! By "Flying" down the road "Slinging MUD" like a "mad-man" ; Tradagys are ALWAYS around the corner. By relying on a "warrenty" to fix "common sense " & Safty is just hilarious. My tractors only break when l do "stupid stuff" and that has NEVER HAPPENED with Thousands of hours.
Bought this same model new July 2019. I have 230 hours on it now. I have the backhoe, rear scraper blade, front snow blade, grapple, and of course forks. I use the front loader and forks the most. The Kioti has worked really well in developing my 10 acre off grid rocky mountain property. There are many of my construction projects that I could not physically do without the power of this tractor. As I approached the decision of mini-excavator or tractor I was really torn...couldn't immediately afford both. Unloading trailers of materials and moving pallets around the property are very important and so the tractor won the decision. A wheeled tractor on my property's slopes make me really nervous...so a tracked vehicle sounds like it would be better from that stand point.
Good video. Thanks for sharing
SOunds like a great spot to be! In the woods not surrounded by people! Thanks for watching!
We have the ck 30 with loader has 4000 hour on it beat the hell out of it still run like a top had it almost 20 years now done stuff that 60 horse dose it was the kiotis in the area dam tuff tractor
I wanted the SE, couldn’t get one during the pandemic, bought the CK4010 with loader & Backhoe in 2020, added the 3Point as you have on the SE, as well as two remotes on the back end. Bought a set of LHA Forks in 2021. I added the third function valve in 2022 for the front end loader. Bought a Grapple in 2023. Handy to use. Bought a Wallenstein Chipper this year, will be trying it soon.
I'd love to have a grapple. Some day. It would come in so handy for brush. A chipper would be great too! For brush. Let me know how it goes!
@@OutdoorsEngineer Bought mine from Kioti. Happy with it so far.
Nice machine and review, I am looking at the Kioti tractors!
Thanks! Have fun shopping!
Love that tractor and setup
Bought my CK3510 (non SE) in July 2020. I do not have the running issue you mentioned. Compared to Kubota, the Kioti lower price allowed me to get a backhoe and 3rd function valve. I now have a bit more than 350 hours. I do my own maintenance with kits from my dealer. Prefer to give them some business since they got me a great deal. I have since purchased a grapple, pallet forks, stump grinder, used tiller, already had a grooming mower and post-hole digger. Good friend has a box blade. My only complaint is moving the shift between L, M, and H is not as smooth as it should be. Takes a little peddle action to help. Except for this the tractor has been flawless and I love it. I will look at the bolts you mentioned. Hope you're still enjoying yours as much as I am mine.
Put some PB blaster on the linkage. Especially where it goes into the tractor. All of my pivot points were very tight until I did this
We have a 2020 kioti ck2610 for a year now. Just over 300 hrs on it already. Haven't had one issue. Other then the loader pin books coming loose like you said. I put a little blue lock tight on them. We use our tractor for everything here including brush hoging moving logs and snow removal. Don't have anything bad to say about the tractor. It definitely is a work horse and well built machine
Awesome! I love moving snow with the tractor. It moves so easy!
have a 3510 for 4 years 250 hrs. no issues. i get a bogging going on as well when cold. . once she's warm she really goes.
Great review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
I've had my 3510SE for about 10 months, 110 hours to date. My regen occurs every 30 hours and I never run it below 1800RPM, so I don't think RPM has anything to do with regen, it's a timed event. I also notice an odd running condition at times, but typically prior to it getting to full operating temp. My regeneration experience is exactly like yours, light comes on after it starts to run erratic, so I know it's gonna happen. So far it's performed flawlessly and has done everything I've asked of it.
Good to hear about the 30 hour regens. That's what I get too.
Great vid and info thank you. Looking for a good work horse as this to manage our property this fall (spring in our region) lol
Sounds great!
I currently have a 1025r I am looking at the ck3510 need to go bigger thanks for the info I enjoyed the video
I had a 1025R. I traded it for a CX 2510 with a cab. Very happy with the change. The CX 2510 is a step up in size and capacity but not too big. I have other tractors that are bigger.
I've had my share of issues with mine. Bought roughly the same time. Believe I posted a list of issues in a previous video. The biggest issue was how my dealership handled everything though. As for your lagged power, dont buy that this is normal. If I were you I'd insist that your dealer get to the bottom of that one. For the most part, my linked pedal is on/linked. Rarely have it off. I have not experienced that. And with all the troubles I've had, I would think I would have noticed this. I highly recommend the Kioti 3rd function. Love where the switch is located on their loader knob. Lastly, I have the HLA root grapple. Solid rugged design. I have 71 hours and I bet the grapple has been on the loader for 68 hrs. Good luck with the lagged power issue. Overall the CK3510SE is a very comfortable workhorse. I was not willing to dish out another 6-8k to get the same feature on a JD or Kubota. These two top brands need to be careful or theyll find themselves no longer on the mountain top.
Thanks for the heads up. I may have to pursue the issue a little more. Appreciate the comment! Thanks!
@@OutdoorsEngineer Just following up to see how your CK3510SE is doing. Mine now has 160 hrs and it's been back to the dealer 6 times now. I have had a horrible time with mine. One thing right after another. Latest is a recall on the seat I guess. After a long stint of aggravation stalling or not starting and tossing error codes on the hr meter. Watch your shift lever. Nut backed off because they didnt use a nyloc nut, Dif lever fell off because one of the hitch pins fell off, antifreeze hoses leaking, tires losing air and rim guard running all over my garage, front tire fell off was seated properly (according to my mechanic), can't recall if I said this before but the link pedal was linked all the time and had to go back to the dealer, ROP pins wont engage without using a hammer, grill guard pins are very difficult to pull out, it's useless in an amount of mud )my neighbor can go where I can't with his L series, on and on....How did you make out on your lagged power issue?
@@charlesreed6404 Wow. Sounds like you've had some troubles. I'm at 145 hours on machine so far and the only thing I had to contact the dealer about was it through a code for water in fuel. Drained the separator and all good. I have yet to take it in for the power issue, as this winter, it mostly has gone away. I haven't noticed it for a few months now. This fall I was going to take it, but now it's not doing it. Oh, I also have seen coolant leaking from the overflow bottle on those hot summer days. Otherwise, no issues, and I haven't had any of the issues you have had.
@@charlesreed6404 not trying to disrespect you on a public forum, but many of your complaints against this tractor(almost all of them) are a direct result of user. The diff lock has a small harpin that holds the linkage rod together. Yours probably got snagged in vegetation and fell out. It’s no big deal. Certainly not tractors fault. The tires leaking air…. Come on now. The only legitimate complaint I see is the leaking coolant hose. I think some people just don’t need to have heavy equipment.
Not sure why you would think I would consider what you say disrespectful...? Isnt this a forum for anyones opinion, thoughts and dialog? If one gets emotional about mear words, they may want to stay off social media. Thank you for commenting.
If you get a grapple, get the Construction Attachments root grapple.
Nice vid!
I recently purchased a CK4210 which, I believe has the same engine, but is a couple years older. Mine is a 2018 and here in Australia, I think we only have one model, which has some of the same features as your SE, but not others. The dual rear auxiliary hydraulics is one feature that is standard here, and really sold me on this model. I would love to get a hydraulic cylinder for the 3PL just to make levelling it easier on the fly. Love the dual pedal action too, seems to just make sense and is the same on my mower.
My engine does not stumble like you describe, it seems ready to go all the time. A little loud and 'knocky' while still cold, but otherwise pretty flawless. Mine also does not have the DPF, but I'm not sure that would have any effect other than when it's doing its thing... burning the particles...
Cheers!
Thanks for watching!
I have kubota L3430 I wish had like 50 hp.I the kioty too.Thank you for sharing
Thanks!
I’ve not noticed the engine stumbling you mentioned on my CT2035. FYI, my Bobcat didn’t come with a tilt steering wheel or arm rest😒. I’ve only got 40ish hours and this thing is a beast!
Thanks for letting me know. I may have to pursue that issue a little harder! Bottom line is they are great tools!
So is the bobcat ct2035 basically this tractor but bobcat styled?
@@jeremyparsons367 yes. I think a slightly different loader, paint and hood/headlights. But the rest is identical.
I bought a 2610 ,you can buy a safety seat disconnect switch for like 10 bucks.i did not like the neutral, parking brake every time you want to get off.
Thanks for your video as I am getting ready to order this model and will have a 40 to 60 day lead time until it comes in so video's like your help in pulling the trigger this week. I am on 20 acres with some slope and will mostly be doing tree work ( Just lost 10 60+ foot oaks over from the roots) in the last storm and was concerned it might not be the best choice but now feel more comfortable. Just curios, did you have your back tires filled for extra weight?
I did not fill the rear tires. Since I have the carry all - haven't really found the need.
Mine reacts the same when it regens but the engine never stumbles. Mine is a 2020. I don’t like the brake on the rite. My tires are loaded and I have a cab and weight box, it I’m pushing something heavy in low gear it does not have the power to spin the wheels. Next time I’ll get the 40 hp model.
My dealer says the service manual sells for about $200 Canadian $160US
I've got a CK4010SE with around 35hours and it's never had engine stumble or regen. Talked exclusively to the Dealer (in depth) before I bought mine and asked specifically about the regen, he said he's never had anyone have problems with it. Looking at the owners manual I think it (and the Dealer) told me to always run it when working at full throttle which I do. I do mostly 3pt and loader work, land plane and box blade. I think running the tractor around at a lower RPM will bring on regen but like I said it's never done to me yet, hours/time will tell.
I'm averaging about 30-40 hours between regen. Typically run the engine at 2000 or more RPM.
@@OutdoorsEngineer 30-40 is what it should be for a regen. if the RPM's are too low and you lug the tractor it'll increase the frequency since they is more soot and less temp. Same thing with diesel cars. I've specialized in TDI repair for 20 years.
I'm in the process of buying a 2021 ck3510 used with 190 hrs on it. Wish me luck. My 1st tractor and hope I made the right call.
I like mine. Just make sure the filters (HST and Hydraulic) are not painted gray (same as the frame). If they are gray they were never changed.
Will do thank you for the info
Duane, if you don’t mind me asking, what is the price for the tractor you’re buying used? I’m in the market for a tractor and have been looking at used tractors. Thanking you in advance!
@shakin_jake Wilson Hey Jake I paid under 25k with a set of forks . All set up for a backhoe att. Didn't get a real good deal, but I got tired of looking.
Thank you Duane I appreciate you for getting back with me. It is what it is but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t seem all that high
Excellent overview. The 3510 is at the top of my list. -Chad #purplecollarlife
Thanks!
I been looking at the Cab CK3510SE. It has a lot I like but watching many videos it seem Kioti has a lot of small problems. The nearest dealer is over 200 miles form me. I live in Northern Michigan. I have not checked to see if Kubota or John Deere will service a Kioti if I need it. Kubota and John Deere is only 30 miles form me. Big difference from 200 to 30 miles. I will be using what ever I get for Snow Blowing only. I live on hills and I mean steep hills. I have no flat land except where my hose and garage is and that was done when building the home. Here in Northern Michigan we get over 200 inch's of snow and at times almost 300 inch's. Our record so far is 297 inch's. I been looking at several makes and models. Even the Bobcat, Kubota, I want to get it this summer so I'm going to have to make up my mind. Money isn't really an option as they all are about the same price give or take a little. My main concerns are service if I need it, problems each have.
For you, yes, Dealer should be one of the biggest factors. 200 miles is a long way. I almost got a Kubota, but couldn't get past the pdeal. JD makes good tractors too. By the way, Bobcat is essentially a rebranded Kioti.
Houghton or Ironwood area? When you mention snow and hills, I think about those areas. The rest of the UP is fairly flat, relatively speaking.
@@OutdoorsEngineer Yes I know about BobCat. We have a BobCat Dealer with in 30 miles but they only sell and work on large equipment. Very Large equipment. No Compact Tractors.
Dawg get some pallet forks. Is that an se 🤔 does it have link pedal
i like my ck2510. its a few years old with the treadle pedal. annoying but better than NOT having a tractor. the landscape rake and a blank skid steer plate with 3 point attachment is handy for using rear implements on the front. ie, the rake. What is the size of the shop?
Thanks for watching. 32x48!
I just bought the 3510 se and am just getting used to it. One question I have is about the seat. When I used it the other day the tractor would shut off everything I got off the seat. I've run a lot of tractors (older) but I've never had one shut off when you leave the seat. That doesn't seem sense because you need to check things out front or using a pto. Does seat flip up to bypass safety switch?
The mechanism to keep the tractor running is to engage the parking brake and put it in neutral. You can get off then and the tractor will stay running. There is a sensor in the seat that you can disconnect and install a jumper wire to bypass the safety mechanism. I only did it to test but reverted it back. It's been 1.5 years and I am very used to engaging the parking brake and putting it in neutral. I don't mind engaging the parking brake as it prevents it from rolling when I get off.
Have the same only 2018. Doesn't sound normal to me. the only thing i've experienced is during 10-12 min regen small lack of power, then back to normal.
Thanks! I'm glad I posted this video. Gonna have to do some more digging in the next few months.
I noticed kioti has a engine knocking noise , its like hammer banging on a metal.
Does your makes that noise or there is something wrong with my ck2610 .
And also I hear lots of hydraulic noise....
My 2019 Ck3510SE makes that same noise; pretty sure it’s a Daedong diesel motor thing, probably not much to worry about.
I have recently went to drive a kioti same model and you can’t curl the bucket and go up or down at the same time.... this may be the breaking point for me if I can’t pick up and curl bucket at once it is almost useless. Same with dumping and going down or up... am I missing something?
It's possible. It just takes a little practice to find the right spot on the controls. Even the sticker says that there are those sweet combo spots. Just hard to hit and takes practice.
I have the ck3510se and love it. Want a front snow blower for it. Kioti wants 7500 for it. A little pricey I think and they talk about mid mount pto that runs it. Think it's a bolt on after removing some cover kind of deal. Do you know any other way or generic brand that works.?
I'm sure you would need to get the parts for the mid-mount PTO from Kioti/Bobcat. The snow blower, there may be a chance you could go another brand. I don't know the details and am only guessing though!
I bit the bullet and bought the front snow blower and really like it.
What size are those loader bolts
How is hydrostatic tranny pull or push heavy load ,can spin the tires too? Do they have shuttle shift too? Thanks
Once I put in Low (there are three speeds - low, medium, hi), it is very easy to spin the wheels. Even in medium speed.
I actually don't know what shuttle shift is so I can't answer that question.
Seems to me that the rocker pedal on the Kubota would be inferior to the 2 pedal system.
I would be in agreement. Although those that use Kubota's seem to like the rocker pedal.
Been looking at the 3510 and L3901, but leaning towards the Kioti. Mind sharing what you paid?
Right around $25k including forks after tax and discount. Most of the time the brands have really good financing deals so I took advantage of that as well. 0% @ 84 months.
@@OutdoorsEngineer Then they are priced about the same.
@@blessed7fold Yes, but you get more amenities with the CK3510SE than with the L3901 (Rear remotes, upgraded seat, other In-cab stuff). Plus the CK3510 is upgradable if you want to have a front PTO for a front snow blower - if you wish, compared to the L3901. Front PTO is only available on the LX, if I remember correctly from my research over a year ago.
Great video man. Still happy with it?
Very much so! Just crossed over the 200 hour mark last week. Another video going to be recorded soon!
@@OutdoorsEngineer I’m going shopping this weekend. My dad has a kubota and loves it but I’m just drawn to these kiotis. There’s two dealers within 30 miles. Surely one of them has what we need.
Anything I should look out for? I gathered I need to opt for an SE.
@@DossFarm One thing to think about is dealer support. If you are torn on the brand, go with the best dealer!
Nothing i can think of. I think you would be happy with both! I know someone who was interested in Kioti and ended up with an LS as is really happy.
@@OutdoorsEngineer picking up my dk4710se tomorrow!
We have a RX 7320 and a CX 2510. We have cabs on both of them. I also have a Branson. It is a good tractor also. I may get an LS in the future.
The rocker pedal is a no-go for me. I will never buy a tractor with it.
Yes!
does tractor work in the sand GOOD VID
I hope so!
Did you buy your tractor for rice lake Wisconsin
I did. It wasn't the closest dealer but they had a tractor. The other closer dealers were out a few months.
@@OutdoorsEngineer I like your videos looking forward to seeing your next one
Bro motor is electric engine is fuel based
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