Undervolt your M15 R4/M17 R4 with throttle stop to improve Temps and Performance!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 янв 2025

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  • @adamzee4950
    @adamzee4950 3 года назад +36

    Just got my M17 R4 and this video has been IMMENSELY helpful. Thank you SO much! Temps are at low 80s and stable with a 100mV offset.

    • @brysoncluff9887
      @brysoncluff9887 3 года назад +1

      with temps under 80 are you gaming still maxed settings and are fans loud?

    • @adamzee4950
      @adamzee4950 3 года назад

      @@brysoncluff9887 I've since used my laptop in "clamshell" mode with an external monitor, and further dropped 10 degrees during gaming. Averaging 69-72 degrees now. Settings are maxed out for UQHD in order to hit 60 FPS. In Cyberpunk, that would be Ray Tracing - Medium. Fans are on performance or maximum. Not as loud as it is high pitched lol

    • @shunsui5626
      @shunsui5626 3 года назад

      @@adamzee4950 im in the 60's but my fans are loud but with my headset i cant hear the fan neither can my friends im gaming with, and i dont even use this setup the youtuber is using

    • @adamzee4950
      @adamzee4950 3 года назад

      @@shunsui5626 Meaning you aren't undervolted at all and running in the 60s during gaming?

    • @shunsui5626
      @shunsui5626 3 года назад +1

      @@adamzee4950 yes I’m on maiden warfare right now 62 •C

  • @DaemionBlackFire
    @DaemionBlackFire 2 года назад +8

    I can't believe it took me over a year to find this video. I've been using throttlestop for a while but could never find a decent guide to set it up right. This helped a lot! A thousand times, thank you

  • @finished502
    @finished502 3 года назад +6

    I just got my M15 r4 and will definitely will be following this guide. I put my r4 on full speed and I thought it was going to explode! It’s so loud! It also gets out air from the side vents like there’s no tomorrow. Still a Beautiful Machine though!

    • @TheMessanger
      @TheMessanger 3 года назад +1

      jajajaja I got mines recently and just setting up windows 11 it got hot and shutdown even when connected to the power adapter. Waiting on the new one but seen all this info I think I will buy a regular laptop. If your almost explodes gaming imagine mines just installing windows 11!!!

  • @peterd5901
    @peterd5901 3 года назад +18

    When you change clock speeds on all four "settings" you also need to change the undervolts on all four too.

  • @JD-kx8rt
    @JD-kx8rt 3 года назад +34

    I love me those Alienware videos man keep them up👍🏻😍

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +3

      Plenty more coming. You will get sick of seeing them pop up 😂

    • @JD-kx8rt
      @JD-kx8rt 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech I was wondering how long would an Alienware M15 r2 with 1660ti and 16gb of ram and core i7 intal 9th 9750H last

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Do you mean battery life or system life?

    • @JD-kx8rt
      @JD-kx8rt 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech just overall with the specs and like gaming wise for how long will I be able to game like when new games come out will The hardware support it

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +2

      6 cores is still the sweet spot for CPU IMHO and a 1660ti will be fine for a good couple of years at 1080p, you may just need to reduce some settings on AAA games to run well

  • @GaryWrightMusic
    @GaryWrightMusic 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @STETS0N
    @STETS0N Месяц назад

    Thank you so much for making this video i've been dealing with m17 r4 being at 100c gaming for 3 years. i wish i saw this sooner. I've been dreading open this thing up and repasting the CPU now i don't ever plan to do so. I'm able to play under heavy loads gaming 80c max vs 100c. This actually increased my performance due to previous throttling

  • @TiGGer1098
    @TiGGer1098 2 года назад +2

    Wow! Massive improvement on my old M17 R3 after learning about bottlenecks with an amplifier enclosed 2080ti pushing the old i7 to 100% constantly. CPU dropped to 73C with your guide.
    Thank you doesn’t express how utterly impressed I am but thank you anyway.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  2 года назад +1

      That's ok, I am just happy knowing it helps people :)

    • @TiGGer1098
      @TiGGer1098 2 года назад

      @@MashITTech So I repeated on wife’s M15 R4 and offset 160mV to drop 9C down to 71C max and 45W down to 30W
      Clearly this is witchcraft!!! Nice one 👍

    • @nextgengaming7803
      @nextgengaming7803 2 года назад

      How did u get this to work? I thought dell blocked throttstop in a bios update?

    • @TiGGer1098
      @TiGGer1098 2 года назад

      @@nextgengaming7803 well my M17 R3 bios allowed both undervolt and overclocking which was because of the i7 6820 but my wife’s M15 R3 only allowed undervolting but o/c was locked out.
      “My understanding” is that undervolting is permitted on all intel cpu Alienware notebooks, so I certainly recommend following this video to the letter. Ultimately can’t hurt to try?

    • @TiGGer1098
      @TiGGer1098 2 года назад

      @@nextgengaming7803 Confused .... 100% thought I answered this yesterday??
      Anyway it's allowed overclock and undervolt on my M17R3 on a i7 6820 but only undervolt on my wife's M15R3
      "My understanding" is that undervolting is allowed on all intel processors with throttlestop and overclock is entirely CPU dependant. Recommend you try it regardless because no harm can come from it if you follow this video to the letter.

  • @IcedRiley
    @IcedRiley 3 года назад +4

    Thank you so much, my m17 was running at 100c playing war zone and now it runs at 80c, should last me a lot longer now lol

  • @kdaddy5177
    @kdaddy5177 3 года назад +1

    Was able to undervolt my m17r4 with your wonderful video. Getting some great CPU temps now and better battery life. Thanks for making this video!

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      No problem, so pleased it has helped 👍

  • @ThunderingVipers
    @ThunderingVipers Год назад +1

    This is so helpful dude.
    I have an alienware x15 and the temp of 100 degree is super concerning.
    I am going to try this tonight and see.
    If I keep it on performance and being down the core turbo boosts and wattage. I hope it will work completely well.
    Thanks again for this dude

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  Год назад +1

      Glad to be able to help but Dell locked the undervaluing out on the x15 with one of their BIOS' so if throttlestop is greyed out you may need to roll back the BIOS

  • @kingdavig
    @kingdavig 3 года назад +2

    Great guide ... Can't wait to get my x17 and check this out again

    • @sianikbd
      @sianikbd 3 года назад

      x17 won't need this. it has better cooling.

  • @VindiceLibertas
    @VindiceLibertas Год назад +1

    Superb video. By far the best one out there on utilizing Throttle Stop on an Alienware M-series. I would also suggest undervolting your GPU with MSI Afterburner. I just spent half the day setting up the undervolts and repeatedly benchmarking, until I got it tuned just right, with a custom thermal profile/fan curve. I'd been utilizing this Alienware M17 R3 for about two years, without doing any of this. Considering Dell has recently replaced all components, including the chassis, I'd best make make the adjustments and get as much life as possible from the unit.

  • @rahulrajrai1996
    @rahulrajrai1996 3 года назад +5

    I love this channel. British accent and detailed tech stuff ❤️❤️❤️ this is proper nerd stuff mate. Keep it up

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      haha thank you, I sure will :)

  • @Ventur8
    @Ventur8 3 года назад

    thanks im going to need this for a friend that is getting this computer, so he can be happy with the noise and get more battery time :3 , youre going to be a big tech youtuber soon, god bless you.

  • @davidfrancis2163
    @davidfrancis2163 3 года назад +3

    Great video. I’ve watched undercoating videos before but this was particularly helpful to see how you use the command center with throttle stop to view your fan settings, etc. can’t wait to try this tonight to see if I can improve mine. I was u able to adjust turbo ratio limits as the settings were greeted out. I will use your video as reference and try again tonight. Thank you!

  • @venisonslayer
    @venisonslayer 3 года назад

    I just got my M17 in and working on it with your guidance.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Great! any question please ask

  • @DeadSpaceMartyr90
    @DeadSpaceMartyr90 2 года назад

    Your video rocked! I’ve been putting off undervolting my M17 R4 i7 3070 and your video was exactly what I needed. Thanks you!

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  2 года назад

      Glad it helped! :)

    • @nextgengaming7803
      @nextgengaming7803 2 года назад

      How did u get it to work mate? I thought dell blocked it in a bios update?

    • @DeadSpaceMartyr90
      @DeadSpaceMartyr90 2 года назад

      @@nextgengaming7803 Really I followed the video exactly as he talked about and had no problems. I’ve even kept the bios up to date with Dell and haven’t noticed any changes. I’ll double check my bios settings and let you know if anything changed in a few hours.

    • @DeadSpaceMartyr90
      @DeadSpaceMartyr90 2 года назад

      @@nextgengaming7803 after checking bios I still have a TCC offset of 15 and throttlestop is still running great. Do you have a Ryzen laptop? I read that throttlestop and tcc are disabled if it’s running with a Ryzen.

    • @nextgengaming7803
      @nextgengaming7803 2 года назад

      @@DeadSpaceMartyr90 mine is the m15 r6, intel i7, I downloaded throttle stop again today, but it's still greyed out is the option to utilise the instructions this gentleman in video is giving out. It's very frustrating as I too have mine offset 15, so it maxes really at 84. But I'd love to tinker a bit more to lower it yet further with no penalty.

  • @brah_ddah
    @brah_ddah 3 года назад

    just got an m17 r4. This video ROCKS. THANK YOU. Also the out of the box temp differences between the m15 and m17 are surprisingly big!

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Glad it helped! And yes the m17 runs so much cooler 👍

    • @brah_ddah
      @brah_ddah 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech so I think my undervolting isn’t actually taking.. have they locked it in more recent BIOSes?

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      What BIOS are you on? As far as I am aware they haven’t locked it yet!

    • @brah_ddah
      @brah_ddah 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech What's the easiest way to check on an AW?

    • @brah_ddah
      @brah_ddah 3 года назад

      I noticed that no matter what my voltage offset is, the Package power is somewhere around 61-70W. The multiplier lock works though.

  • @VjRocker007
    @VjRocker007 3 года назад

    This is a brilliant video, clear and concise explanation of throttle stops functions. You demonstrated all of the different performance modes as well which was really handy. Thank you for posting such an informative video!!

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Thank you for the kind words :)

  • @hellknight03
    @hellknight03 5 месяцев назад

    I followed this on my m17 r3 and with -90 mV offset it runs beautifully and cool!!

  • @skylerwright94
    @skylerwright94 3 года назад +2

    Used this video several times and it still works. Thank you man!

  • @scottb5178
    @scottb5178 3 года назад

    Very informative. Will be getting my M17 R4 in a few weeks. Can't wait to try this out. Thx

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Let us know how you get on?

    • @scottb5178
      @scottb5178 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech Just received my M17R4 (18 days early). Already made some nice improvements with Throttlestop. Playing with Afterburner now. Loving it. Thanks for videos and reviews.

  • @awesomestuff6704
    @awesomestuff6704 3 года назад +2

    Excellent video. This information on Alienware laptops is pure gold and not available anywhere. Could you please do these kind of videos on other laptops as well. ASUS ROG Scar 17, Scar 15 , Strix versions etc. Almost every gaming laptop suffers from these heat issues and your channel is a god-send to amateurs like us to fix the thermals through your amazing videos. Thanks a lot mate :)

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      I sure will mate as I gradually get them in for review :)

  • @zerohbeat
    @zerohbeat 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for these performance / Undervolting videos. Really informative.

  • @iceiceice914
    @iceiceice914 3 года назад +3

    Damn, you are the only one who makes full review of R4 series, which is quite useful.
    I don’t know what other RUclipsrs are thinking, who cares what you like or dislike.
    Btw, is it necessary to do this with m17r4? Since it’s much cooler than m15. (10870,of course. )

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      It is not necessary at all but you use less watts and run cooler for a few minutes of your time! Well worth it

  • @joltee9317
    @joltee9317 Год назад

    Excellent video. Superbly explained!

  • @pablofinn3451
    @pablofinn3451 3 года назад

    You are the man! A very well made, concise, interesting and extremely useful video! I've had my M17 R4 for a few days now and loving it. Will definitely apply an undervolt as per your guide. Looking forward to seeing your video on the GPU. Cheers.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Thank you for the kind words. GPU coming out later and I am doing a conclusion video to tie it all together Thursday. Been really enjoying these machines :)

    • @pablofinn3451
      @pablofinn3451 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech A quick question mate, what difference will switching between the Quiet and Balanced profiles on the undervolted CPU?

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Ok, I will cover this in my final video tweaking the m15r4 but essentially:
      Quiet mode locks your cpu at 45w
      Balanced mode let’s the cpu max out up to 105w (less if you undervolted)
      Once you apply the undervolt the quiet performance will still stick at 45w but you will get more performance for that 45w than stock.
      The balanced will run as in my video so hopefully cpu maxed at 4ghz with less watts than stock (mine was 84 I think)

    • @kohaashi
      @kohaashi 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech after you’ve created your throttlestop profiles, do you create a custom fan profile on AWCC and then leave AWCC alone and just alternate between the throttlestop profiles? Or do you still switch profiles in AWCC?

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Personally I leave command center alone in balanced and do all my CPU tweaking in throttlestop. As per the video I use different profiles for different things (by reducing the multipliers the temps and watts come right down making this thing so quiet in comparison with stock)

  • @WILSONsHobbies
    @WILSONsHobbies 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video. I have the alienware m15 R4 3080 with the Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10870H CPU @ 2.20GHz on a 34inch 3440x1440 160hz ultrawide monitore. TCC SET AT 10. My stable undervolt on performance with all clocks stock is - 135.7 (both cache and core). Ran throttlestop on 960m size and received a score 67. Ran this for about 3 times. No errors. Ran it again at 7680m size. No errors. Ran time spy, with overclock on 3080 at 150 core clock, and 250 memory clock. received score of 11854 Ran cinebench (sorry i forgot the score)- no errors. I set my fan speed profile in AWCC customized to ramp up the fans 10 percent each 10th of 100c (80 percent speed at 80c). My max temps when not on high load is 85c. This is the best i can do on performance mode , playing on a 1440p monitor 160hz

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      hello mate, sounds like you have done a good job! Your scores seem solid considering the m15r4 has a slightly weaker cooling solution than the m17r4.

  • @freemaysin5088
    @freemaysin5088 Год назад +1

    The M15 R4 in white was the best looking laptop of the last 10 years imo

  • @conspirishitheory
    @conspirishitheory 3 года назад

    Alright man. Since you know better, I decided to let you play around with all these settings and figure out what works best for gaming performance rather than getting my hands dirty. And then when that video comes out, I'll be the first one to drop a like. Also, two thumbs up for the extensive coverage you do on a model.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Haha well gpu overclock if next then lastly I will do a conclusion video to put all the tweaks together 👍

    • @conspirishitheory
      @conspirishitheory 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech sure sure. Take your time. It's gonna be a while till I can get my laptop imported anyway. Its stuck in USA. Wouldn't overclocking mess with the overall life of the cpu? I usually refrain from doing so. But if you can convince me otherwise I'll be happy to try

  • @hellawolf
    @hellawolf 3 года назад

    most comprehensive explanation on Undervolting.

  • @debuggingJedi
    @debuggingJedi 5 месяцев назад

    thank u so much, fixed my same problem on area51m r2

  • @soubhikmukherjee6871
    @soubhikmukherjee6871 3 года назад +3

    There was so hype about OnePlus launch event that I missed your videos yesterday.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +2

      haha I feel hurt...kidding. Does the OnePlus look good? not even looked at it

    • @soubhikmukherjee6871
      @soubhikmukherjee6871 3 года назад +2

      @@MashITTech yeah they're pretty good but now they've decided to up their price significantly so that they can match with Apple and Samsung.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +2

      Oh I hate that! the price was the main reason people looked to OnePlus products!

    • @soubhikmukherjee6871
      @soubhikmukherjee6871 3 года назад +2

      @@MashITTech absolutely.

  • @TheBinro01
    @TheBinro01 3 года назад

    I must have received a decent paste job. With a -.075 undervolt and no reduction of multipliers, the max temperatures I got was 88C using TSBench. With Cinebench R23 I got a multi core score of 10631 with my max temp of 96C in the 10 min run. Stock out of the box the throttling bumped me down to 10216. Thanks for the great tutorial!

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Hi Robert, wow that is decent. You have a good one there! Hope you enjoy it 👍

    • @TheBinro01
      @TheBinro01 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech It’s a beautiful laptop. The 15” is a great portable solution for such a powerful device. I opted for the 144Hz screen since I only spec’ed the 3060. But I received a decent chip there too. I was able to overclock it rock solid at +160 Hz on the GPU core. I’m peaking at 9000 Time Spy with great therms in Balanced fan profile. Not bad at all for a 3060 system.

  • @JackiePrime
    @JackiePrime 3 года назад

    You’re the hero we deserve

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Thank you, first time I have ever been called a hero 😂

  • @2009Windows7
    @2009Windows7 3 года назад +5

    You should try a -250 core undervolt and a -140 cache undervolt reason being it can dramatically reduce power consumption depending on workload and temps, my XPS 15 7590 with a much thinner chassis can do 40-45 watts under 100% load and stay around 75-85/90 degrees, doing 4.0ghz on all 4 cores.

    • @Blueraazor
      @Blueraazor 3 года назад

      Holy smokes I need to do this

    • @RuneBa1
      @RuneBa1 2 года назад

      This crashes ur laptop

    • @RuneBa1
      @RuneBa1 2 года назад

      Don’t try this

    • @kevinli9035
      @kevinli9035 2 года назад +1

      This guy is certainly a warranty seller

    • @starmember132
      @starmember132 2 года назад

      @@RuneBa1 It may crash but not in all cases. I'm currently using an i7-10750H and the most stable undervolt by far ive achieved is -190mv for core and -90.8mv for cache.

  • @sdauz
    @sdauz 3 года назад

    Really thorough reviews.

  • @ecollazo67
    @ecollazo67 3 года назад

    Excellent content as always.

  • @RelentlessPlays91
    @RelentlessPlays91 3 года назад

    Such a helpful video! Thank you so much!! 👍🏽

  • @pplover213
    @pplover213 3 года назад

    wow,i just made that setting,my cpu from 90 to 70 C now!!thanks you

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Wow nice difference! It’s well worth the few minutes tweaking it 👍

    • @sages7328
      @sages7328 3 года назад

      what setting you used?

  • @teesmith501
    @teesmith501 3 года назад +1

    Got a M15 R4 not too long ago, first gaming laptop ever so I am a newb and completely clueless as to gaming on PC's. So I am still learning as I go. This is definitely something I will be attempting as I found that gaming laptops tend to run very hot.
    Also, would you have a video on how to upgrade SSD?

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      I sure can, it is incredibly easy with these so will be a short video 😁👍

  • @howiemandealt
    @howiemandealt 3 года назад +2

    I tried undervolting, but the TS Bench took a lot more time, and after I adjusted the FIVR, it got an even bigger number

  • @MrDchristop
    @MrDchristop Год назад

    You can also use the Fusion tab of ALienware Control to undevolt

  • @hukfx
    @hukfx 3 года назад

    Got what I needed thank you

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Great! Got one more tweak video coming where I put all the tweaks together, and look at command centre 👍

  • @oldarus
    @oldarus 3 года назад

    thanks for this. great info!

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      No problem, hope it helps 👍

  • @thehorizon9552
    @thehorizon9552 3 года назад

    I HAVE THE M17 R4, THIS IS USEFUL FOR ME THANKS

  • @yunchidd3863
    @yunchidd3863 3 года назад

    Great content, subscribed

  • @Andy2586
    @Andy2586 3 года назад

    I have my m17 R4 i9-10980HK with a -125mV core / -120mV cache. The difference in heat and power is massive. I also use the TCC (in addition to throttlestop) set to 15, this way the temps never go much above 85 degC. By the way, great vids, keep em coming 😀

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Brilliant, glad to see other people making use of throttlestop it is an amazing bit of software :)

    • @maegnificant
      @maegnificant 3 года назад

      can you run a 30 min cinebench session with these settings and still be stable? that would be awesome!

    • @Andy2586
      @Andy2586 3 года назад

      @@maegnificant im now running at -130mV core / -120mV cache. Have been stable for 3 days now (0 crashes), this includes multiple benchmarks / stress tests including 1 hour cpu stress test. Seems to save approx 15w of power consumption when at full load, never exceeds 90W.

    • @maegnificant
      @maegnificant 3 года назад

      @@Andy2586 wow! I can't go that high, I'm at -78 for both. gonna repaste it soon, I think

    • @Andy2586
      @Andy2586 3 года назад

      @@maegnificant theres a guy on notebook review forum who is stable at -145 core and -125 cache. Do you have the i9 or the i7?

  • @ioandragulescu6063
    @ioandragulescu6063 3 года назад

    was reading a bit on the throttlestop forums, some post from the author of the program. It seems that the cache is the limiting factor so a -70 on cache with a lower value on the core might actually work (like -100 or lower).

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Thanks for the heads up. I will have a play 👍

  • @johnsellars2692
    @johnsellars2692 3 года назад

    Thank you for this.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      No problem, hope it helps 👍

  • @harrisejaz280
    @harrisejaz280 Год назад

    Thank you so much for this video. My sitch: Just bought a second hand M17R3 that was running 100C on idle. Found this video, bottomed out all core multipliers(didn't touch voltage). Now it's staying between 55-80, average 65. Minimal impact on gaming. Success?

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  Год назад

      glad it helped. These did run hot out of the box!

    • @harrisejaz280
      @harrisejaz280 Год назад

      @@MashITTech IS there any way to make throttlestop run automagically on startup? currently I have to manually run the app everytime...
      Or alternatively is there a way to underclock the cores indefinitely?

  • @akinoz
    @akinoz 3 года назад

    Awesome, it was really informative.

  • @pool842
    @pool842 3 года назад

    Awesome info thank you

  • @joehao5844
    @joehao5844 3 года назад +1

    I just get my m17r4 and want to undervolt it. Then I get this video lol. Thank u so much!!

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Hope it helps you :) Got more tweaking videos coming!

    • @joehao5844
      @joehao5844 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech It helps a lot!!!

  • @jordon2913
    @jordon2913 2 года назад +1

    THANK YOU

  • @dynamitedmoney
    @dynamitedmoney 3 года назад

    Fantastic content well done mate! +liked and subbed

  • @MrCougar1825
    @MrCougar1825 3 года назад

    Awesome video was able to under volt my new m17 r4 with 3070 to -132 and overclock my video card almost 200mhz over on core clock I think I might have gotten the lottery 🤷‍♂️

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      wow, I think you have the golden sample! well done mate

  • @PhantomTD
    @PhantomTD 3 года назад

    Great video, I hit the lottery with an old i7 7700HQ. Manages - .170 offset is stable. One thing you did not mention, in a laptop with a colder cpu, the gpu usually also runs colder. Oh, and you can even undervolt the GPU :D

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +3

      That is amazing! And yes you can undervolt the GPU, but also overclocking it is as good as an undervolt as you still use the 140w budget but with a better voltage frequency curve. dropping an afterburner video shortly to help people that have no clue how to overclock :)

    • @PhantomTD
      @PhantomTD 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech Awsome! There is just so much hidden potential in laptops with undervolting!

  • @malki777
    @malki777 3 года назад +2

    Hi @Mash IT. There are 2 questions.
    1. So, at 9:10 we can see, that M15 R4 in balanced mode with undervolting -85.0 mV (core & cache) reach maximum 99°C and 87W power. Okay good, and have you tested M17 R4 with the same settings? Really wonder what maximum temperature will hit. I bet for 90°C !! :D
    2. As I understood you didn't repaste laptops. How do you think about it ? I've found some posts in Reddit community that recommends additionally for alienware laptops immediately after buying to repaste on some good product like Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut / Kryonaut. They say that native paste is shitty a bit and repasting can help to drop temperatures up to 5°C more.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Hi Nelson, ok so..
      1. It would be very similar even though the m17 has much better cooling. It is because the balanced fan profile doesn't ramp up until it reaches 90c+ to keep the laptop quiet. Don't worry though there are plenty of other profiles or you can use your own

    • @malki777
      @malki777 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech 1. Hm....I've researched your another "Deep Dive" video and look what I've found ruclips.net/video/re4ZoYSy4vw/видео.html (from 9:27)
      M17 R4 with undervolting -90.0 mV (core & cache) reach maximum 82°C and 76W power. I believe during this test you were running on "balanced mode" in Alienware Command Center (AWCC).
      Then it's really big difference (82°C for M17 R4 vs 99°C for M15 R4), or I'm mistaken somewhere?

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Hmm you could well be right, I have been running so many benchmarks I am confusing myself 😂 I will go back over my tests

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Hi Nelson, I see you replied about undervolting being locked out in new BIOS but for some reason I can't find the thread so posting here! Did you manage to roll back to 1.2? Please let me know ASAP and I will put an announcement out

    • @malki777
      @malki777 3 года назад

      ​@@MashITTech Unfortunately I'm not an owner yet and can't it test by myself. Okay, you wrote that your R4's were tested on BIOS version 1.1.0 and 1.2.0.
      At this moment the last version is 1.3.1, dated 23 Mar 2021. I created a topics in official Dell & Reddit communities about undervolting status.
      One guy said: "on a BIOS that new, you'll find under-volting is locked out.". Now I'm waiting for another replies who really tested downgrade from 1.3.1 to 1.2.0 (with unlocked undervolting)
      Link to topics below:
      www.dell.com/community/Alienware/m17-R4-m15-R4-BIOS-changelog-undervolting-feature/m-p/7839023
      www.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/mcyami/m17_r4m15_r4_bios_changelog_undervolting_status/

  • @anuragnarayan7365
    @anuragnarayan7365 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video 🔥🔥🔥🔥
    No one explains so good ❤️

  • @felipesiedschlagyopan4185
    @felipesiedschlagyopan4185 Год назад +1

    I can't enable "Unlock adjustable voltage" in mine. Maybe they blocked this in BIOS. Anything else I can do? I would like to simply decrease the multiplier if I can't undervolt... Because those temps are too high and the clock is unstable...

  • @TheIndustrialGiant
    @TheIndustrialGiant 3 года назад +2

    The R3 could be heavily undervolted on the 10750h, no hiccups with -.115 cache, -.165 core. I wonder how high(or low) the r4 with the 8 core can go

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Yes, the 6 cores undervolt better! I had some great undervolts on the old 9 series and 8 series 45w hex cores! Unfortunately the 8 cores don't seem to fair as well, I have only had two so maybe I am unlucky but both were less than -.100 (.085 on one and .09 on the other). I have another m17r4 on the way with cherry mx keyboard so I will test that one too

    • @TheIndustrialGiant
      @TheIndustrialGiant 3 года назад +2

      @@MashITTech what's you ETA for delivery on that one? If you don't mind me asking

  • @KeerthanGopi
    @KeerthanGopi 3 года назад

    Can you make a video for the custom fan curve?

  • @ethandoan6271
    @ethandoan6271 3 года назад

    Absolutely wonderful tutorial. My m15 r4 used to repeatedly max out at 100 C when playing dying light 2 for a couple hours. Now it fluctuates between 83 and max 90. Awesome!

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      So glad it was a help to you 👍

  • @kaichungma6926
    @kaichungma6926 3 года назад

    Hi David, forgive my poor english🙈
    I brought my m17 r4 because of your great work.
    And the m17 r4 is such a beauty.🥰
    But I do have some questions about undervolting, hope you might enlighten me.🙏🏻
    I saw most people saying that we should keep cpu core and cpu cache voltage remain the same.
    But some people suggest that keep pushing the cpu cache voltage lower and lower till it crash.
    May I ask what is the difference between these two?
    And which one you would prefer and why?
    Anyway, keep up the good work.👍🏻

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      hello mate, it is a lovely machine, glad you are enjoying it.
      I discussed this with unclewebb (writer of throttlestop) and he always recommended keeping them the same value and tweaking to get the best shared value. you can usually push the CPU well ahead of the cache but this will then just throttle the cpu. Hope this answers your question

    • @kaichungma6926
      @kaichungma6926 3 года назад

      Thanks, it helps a lot.

  • @vadimsegida2320
    @vadimsegida2320 3 года назад

    Manage to do -100 MV and - 80 on cache. In AAA games its goes up to 90c and no throttle on max settings.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Nicely done! That sounds like a good balance

  • @slickrounder6045
    @slickrounder6045 3 года назад +1

    Needed to include how to get ThrottleStop to automatically launch when you start up your PC (i.e via TaskScheduler)

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Haha you are my biggest critic :) Yes, maybe I should have added that

  • @Connor013Minton
    @Connor013Minton 3 года назад

    I'm so glad the video is finally here! It's informative and holds my hand the entire way. I do have some questions though that are making me super anxious now. Because my laptop is so expensive I got a really good warranty, now will undervolting void this? If so then if I use tcc which is built in then will that void it?
    My other question is that I first see that you have these settings on an m15 so would I use the same settings for the m17? If not then what do you use that'd be absolutely safe and "stable"?
    I went to reddit and searched if Dell would void the warranty if anything happened with it undervolted BUT others commented saying using throttlestop does not store logs so it'd be impossible for them to find out. I'm just terribly worried that after all this time and all this help you've given me so fast and efficiently that I'd break my laptop, void my warranty, and all within a day of having it. Anyway, please let me know. I loved the video and like I said I absolutely appreciate how fast and informative you are with your replies. Great channel and keep it up!

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Using throttlestop will not void your warranty and neither will using TCC which alienware provided. If anything it will likely add longevity to your laptop as it will run cooler.
      Also the 15 and 17 are essentially the same so yes the same settings, it will just run a bit cooler because of the larger fans 👍 always here to assist if you have any more questions 😃

    • @Connor013Minton
      @Connor013Minton 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech I'm glad cause I got 2 years of premium support plus... hate for that to void lol but I will absolutely take your word for it.
      What settings do you use to get the most out of your own m15/17 while staying as cool as possible?

    • @Connor013Minton
      @Connor013Minton 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech do let me know if you can. I do realize that might be a lengthy reply but I do appreciate it. When I get my m17 I'm just going to copy and paste!

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Will do mate. give me a few minutes and I will detail exactly what I would do. Also the last part of my tweaking videos will cover this as I plan to cover command centre profiles and put all the tweaks together to show the system running at its best

    • @Connor013Minton
      @Connor013Minton 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech yes! So excited!!!! Thanks so much.

  • @santiagoaguirredelgado7599
    @santiagoaguirredelgado7599 3 года назад

    Hey Mash It great video bro, you spoke eloquently and I really like you accent 10/10.
    I have a question for you, is a good idea to buy my laptop from Amazon or is better if I buy it on Best Buy ?

    • @软件实验室
      @软件实验室 3 года назад

      Amazon get 30 days refund, Best Buy get 14days I think or 15

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Thank you that is very kind of you to say. I am in the UK, and here Amazon is the best option because of the great customer services and returns :)

    • @williamspringer6437
      @williamspringer6437 3 года назад +1

      Dell boi, full customization and all that.

  • @Шинабензин
    @Шинабензин 2 года назад

    Please tell me what do i do if i find under voltage adjustment bar blocked?

  • @photograhy
    @photograhy 2 года назад

    For someone who never undervolted pc/laptop this was confusing. I am not getting the results you are getting at all, its like 2 completely different laptops but they are in fact identical. I don't know if I should go higher or lower than -75.2 because either way nothing changes

  • @RegulusDex
    @RegulusDex 3 года назад

    You should do an update for the x17. The device already runs rather cool but undervolting would contribute to it's longevity.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Yep, this is in the works, just had a lot to get through 😃👍

  • @antong3987
    @antong3987 3 года назад

    What do you mean David when you say, "check your sleep modes"?

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Ok, to check stability make sure you put your laptop to both ordinary sleep (s3) and hibernate. If it resumes fine from both you are good 😀👍

  • @ademyilmaz2910
    @ademyilmaz2910 3 года назад

    when you drop the Turbo Ratio Limits.. why not the Offset Voltage?

  • @acar14
    @acar14 2 года назад

    For me the top right corner panel when changing the offset showed 0 offset when i hit apply. Any idea to why that is?

  • @haagenfuchs
    @haagenfuchs Год назад +1

    Do you know how to undervolt x17 r2? Because when i use throttlestop its grayedout so undervokt not possible, i tried to downgrade my bios but not possible either to downgrade bios.

  • @chimezieekenulo5277
    @chimezieekenulo5277 2 года назад

    My m17 r4 no longer display...
    Please I need help on how to make it work...

  • @unusedlove7179
    @unusedlove7179 3 года назад

    Nice! I have a m15 and it hit -110 and was stable, scored 4100 in cinebench, but I'm having trouble getting throttlestop to remember my voltages after the system restarts, I have it on save voltages immediately

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Let me check mine when I get in the office shortly and let you know because mine stick

    • @zgoaty9235
      @zgoaty9235 3 года назад

      I don’t know if this is true nowadays with TS, but I’ve had to set a group policy within the Windows Group Policy Editor to allow TS to run at bootup in the past.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      I am pretty sure it is still the same, I just start mine with a batch file but I think Unused Love is having a different problem where his undervolt doesnt stick upon opening it after a reboot

    • @unusedlove7179
      @unusedlove7179 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech got it to work, not really sure what I did though, but it's sticking now. Another weird problem I'm having is in shadow of the tomb raider benchmark, I get really good fps until the last scene of the last benchmark, where I dip down to like 80, which makes my average fps about 107. Isn't my average fps supposed to be around 125?

    • @kohaashi
      @kohaashi 3 года назад

      I’ve managed -100 so far and stable. Do they need to remain the same or can the voltage be undervolted more than the other?

  • @ravipeiris4388
    @ravipeiris4388 3 года назад

    Writing from California: Great overview. I hope you do another, more in-depth tutorial where you slow walk us through each setting. Do you do this with any AMD processors or just Intel processors? Also, I believe that, per Intel's website, not all processors can be undervolted...at least using their XTU software. Thank you for your time in making this video,
    Ravi Peiris M.D.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Hi Ravi, I am glad you enjoyed it. I can certainly take a look at doing a more in depth video for sure. And unfortunately this can only be used on intel but there are some tools that work with AMD, when my Ryzen m15 r5 arrives I will take a look at that too.
      And you are correct, a lot of manufacturers block undervolting lately but Alienware have been kind to us :)

  • @romp4727
    @romp4727 3 года назад +2

    i've looked a bunch of the reviews for the new generation of laptops and honestly it leaves much to be desired - this alienware m17 looks like one of the best but it really is a shame it's not that portalable weighing in at 6.5 lbs- the vapor chamber really seems to help. i think the next generation of chips being the tiger lake H or alder lake chips and rtx 3000 series will be when the laptops are able to make the next leap

  • @cjrooferj6619
    @cjrooferj6619 3 года назад

    Definitely be interesting to see what you can do with a results comparison between TS vrs Awcc+TCC. And or full rundown of Awcc custom settings. Atm. iam struggling with custom profiles saving per game/launcher. Crawling off a roof & heading straight for a cold beer Might be hampering my computer skills just a bit :)

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Haha I love it, think I might join you. But in seriousness the next tweaking video will be focusing on the end results and command centre profiles/custom profiles 👍

  • @IronmanToday
    @IronmanToday 3 года назад

    Niceee, I need this video

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Great, any questions please just ask :)

  • @TheBaconAgent212
    @TheBaconAgent212 6 месяцев назад

    What’s it mean when throttle stop hits power
    I have a x17 and got a stable under volt and reliable temp from 80-85 c while long game sessions
    Only error I keep hitting in throttle stop is power

  • @Tesla-ve5hq
    @Tesla-ve5hq Год назад

    it's really interesting, When I wanted to buy a gaming laptop, It didn't seem Large difference to me Between 10750H, 10870H 11800H and 12700H.
    now i can see the 10870H at max pressure score about 4000, and have 100 degrees.
    But my 12700H score 8000 and have 100 degrees.
    But the interesting part is when i disable CPU Turbo Boost, The score decrease to 4500 and the temperature is always under 60 degrees 😮
    it really worth it for me, lower temperature, lower hardware damage, lower fan noise

  • @mikedunlock
    @mikedunlock 3 года назад +1

    Thanks you so much for this! Would love to see how to undervolt my GPU and change my fan profiles. I am running a MSI GE66 Raider with a RTX 3070. I have found the MSI dragon center to be very buggy, so I'd like to avoid using it.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Well you can use my msi afterburner guide on your 3070. Also download throttlestop and see if msi allow undervolting (assuming the ge66 uses intel 10870h?) If they do you can also use my guide on that too

  • @Metamindset381
    @Metamindset381 3 года назад

    How do I undervolt an 8th gen cpu dell laptop

  • @home1231
    @home1231 3 года назад

    wow. amazing videos .

    • @home1231
      @home1231 3 года назад

      Does these undervolts apply to the razor blade 3080? the specs r pretty much same ..

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      I am not 100% sure as I don't have the 2021 model yet but Razer locked out the undervolts on the 2020 models :(

  • @lateral-g8847
    @lateral-g8847 3 года назад

    GREAT CONTENT BRO, this is surprisingly helpful!
    just one simple question: when you create different profiles, do you have to adjust the voltage for each of them? In the video you mentioned "don't" but the panel adjusts itself (as you can see in the cpu core voltage box) to default (instead of keeping your changes at -85mv) at 11:37.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      Thanks mate. It should apply it across all profiles. I just checked my current undervolt and it has stuck across them all.

    • @lateral-g8847
      @lateral-g8847 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech 👍

  • @Podinac92
    @Podinac92 3 года назад

    We would also like to see is there any use of Graphic Amplifier port. Thank you

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +2

      That's a good idea! I will see if I can pick one up

    • @kohaashi
      @kohaashi 3 года назад +1

      The AGA is end of life. It doesn’t even support 30 Series graphics.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Somebody else mentioned that they are in the process of making an rev3 amplifier. I havent heard anything from Alienware yet though

  • @bennyribs
    @bennyribs 3 года назад +1

    I’m very curious how the 144hz panel with advanced optimus and g-sync performs (color accuracy, brightness, etc) as well as battery life and stress on the GPU

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +2

      Can't wait for the one on the way with the cherry mechanical keyboard, that is one I cant wait for :)

  • @MaybeQ8
    @MaybeQ8 3 года назад +1

    for me the fivr control is locked and the cpu core voltage do you know how to unlock it ???

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      What laptop and what BIOS do you have?

    • @MaybeQ8
      @MaybeQ8 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech m17 r2 and i dont know what bios i have but i do all the updates.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Ah sorry, I think this only works on R3 and R4 for some reason. No idea why dell would lock the R2 out 😭

    • @malki777
      @malki777 3 года назад +1

      @@MaybeQ8 Hi. In Alienware m17 R2 undervolting is possible with a BIOS downgrade. You can get help in specific forum thread, just google it: *OFFICIAL* Alienware m15 R2 / m17 R2 Owner's Lounge

    • @MaybeQ8
      @MaybeQ8 3 года назад

      @@malki777 thanks for the help bro :)

  • @GunmanBricks
    @GunmanBricks 3 года назад

    at 15:00 how i can get those temps and Hz on top of Time Spy? Great video.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад +1

      Thanks mate. That is explained in the next video in the series: ruclips.net/video/TOicQR5g7zU/видео.html
      it is using msi afterburner 👍

    • @GunmanBricks
      @GunmanBricks 3 года назад

      @@MashITTech thanks a lot!

  • @RISINTECH
    @RISINTECH 2 года назад

    Do u have a video thermal stopper for x17 ?

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  2 года назад

      Not a dedicated video but if you watch my X17 deep dive I do discuss TS settings and also show how the CPU can be overclocked

  • @thomasthornton1999
    @thomasthornton1999 3 года назад +2

    Quick question how does the balance vs high performance on power effect the under volting? Or what does it do in general I’m not to sure just got my first alienware laptop and want it to last awhile

  • @JimmyCheng
    @JimmyCheng 2 года назад

    Awesome content. I wonder if it works on the new x15 r2’s 12th gen cpu? With performance cores and all that good stuff.

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  2 года назад +1

      no sorry it doesn't. The 12th gen is completely locked down :(

    • @JimmyCheng
      @JimmyCheng 2 года назад

      @@MashITTech ah that’s so unfortunate. But are you still able to set multipliers to tune it down when doing mundane jobs? If not, is the best option to just set the fan to silent mode? An tutorial on an alternative solution would be much appreciated! Thanks again for your wonderful contents, I’ve bought mine after watching your x15 r2 reviews :)

  • @willpwr7416
    @willpwr7416 2 года назад

    Thankdls for the video I don't suppose you can help? I have the M17 R1 with 4k and RTX 3080 but my touch pad no longer has RGB on it, I had to reset the entire laptop and install new version of windows on it but since the my rgb touch pad hasn't worked

  • @Lucifer-ud4oc
    @Lucifer-ud4oc 3 года назад

    just love the technical Jude Law😅

    • @MashITTech
      @MashITTech  3 года назад

      haha that makes a change from being called Gordon Ramsey :)

  • @raghavshukla7961
    @raghavshukla7961 2 года назад

    Sir i am now facing issue in my laptop after using undervolt my laptop always runs at 4ghz when idealing leading it 90 degree easily

  • @joshuadunn5568
    @joshuadunn5568 11 месяцев назад

    For some reason I can't change m fan speed to performance when overlocking on AWCC is that common?