@@AceUkiyoGeatsIX it’s so refreshing to hear another person be objective about it. I never played the og before so I don’t have nostalgia goggles for it and for me the remakes are objectively better in every way
@@AG-sj4om I've actually played a few Final Fantasy games before starting FF7. Its plot is mostly a rehash of 6. So I don't have the same nostalgia goggles everyone else does either. IMO FFV, FFVI ,FFVIII, FFX, XII and XVI and Tactics are superior game over the OG FFVII. That rest I find to either be a boring slog without cheat codes or broken strats, too full of awful anime cliches(like the FFIV collection) or haven't played yet.(like FFX-2 & FFXIV)
Gotta say this whole side of Cait Sith's story was handled much better here, first off no taking Marlene hostage which really hurt this redeeming moment. Second even though this is a new body it's still clearly the same Cait Sith and he apologizes to everyone as well. All in all this made him so much more likeable and I'm glad for it.
Well, everyone would be that way if Sephiroth could control them. Even Aerith isn't an exception. He can't mind control her because she's too strong for it but if he did...
Cait Sith is a remote-controlled bot. The OG Cait Sith said: "There plenty of him around, but there is only one me" means Cait Sith not only a remote-controlled bot, but also a conscious one. Rebirth before Cait Sith Death, "You did what you could, the rest is up to them." Maybe the controller talking to the now conscious Cait Sith New Cait Sith controlled by the same person, but maybe not the same as previous Cait Sith.
He meant one cat. There are 100 Toys R Us moogles. But this cat is more or less like Red 13 but since magic and fairy’s are a big theme with this character Nobody really has any fucking idea how he’s alive. Also Red is very identical to a canine but CAIT the cat isn’t like a cat at all. More like a grown man con artist Casino dealer trapped in anthropomorphic cat. It’s funny I bet the moogle subconsciously hates him lmao
@@Sianostrakarenrenren I know in the original reeve controls cait sith but I like the idea more where he was created by reeve as a sentient AI constantly learning and growing
Yeah kinda hard to pull that off considering everyone knows what Cait Sith is. But I'll take this version over the og any day way more character development.
@@johngoldfield6602it was just something he said before he died really. In the OG, caith sith said that there was only 1 caith sith, and even of there’s plenty of him out there, he was the only one and if ever there’s another caith sith to replace him, dont forget him. That gave the players the idea that the new one that came after his sacrifice was a new one with copy paste personality and looks but the real caith sith who became independent died in that temple.
You are all wrong. OG was better cuz, it was suppose to reeves controlling them. But this particular one gained SENTIENCE. Remake just has shiny graphics and looks closer to a Disney avengers movie or Netflix show.
less "too soon"and feels more "that's what they were going for". giving reeve some redemption after being unable to stop the sector 7th plate from falling, this time keeping it in place long enough for everyone to get out safely.
They could have expanded on the few seconds that you understand that cait sith is mic more than a stuffed toy and had sentience. It looks good but damn. They missed that thoughtful part.
It's ok to, because in the OG Caith Sith have extra dialouge which implied he gained his own soul at the last moment before his death. Which is why he asked them not to forget about him.
Spoilers Yes, the same way as the original VII, Cait Sith dies at the temple, in Rebirth they even show the scene of the temple crushing his body, but he's immediately replaced by another one. So you can play as Cait Sith no.2 after the first died, and I don't think there's differeces in them in gameplay, just a different body.
The Cait Siths are robots with A.I. controlled by a Shinra executive (no name becauae spoilers) who eventually turns on Shinra. Theory is that the first Cait Sith developed self awareness and made the decision to sacrifice itself as penance for their betrayal of the party with its controller accepting its choice. The controller probably downloaded its memories into the second Cait Sith but since the second one has yet to develop self awareness, it reacted to the party with its programmed personality, hence the moodkiller when it goes "oh, I'm fine" after we saw the first one's death.
This sacrifice is so sad.... if only there was something else they could have used to keep the tablet from going down. If only they had an extendable staff or prosthetic arm gun. Why weren't there even rocks around at all! Such a tragedy! Seriously, though, as much as I love a lot of the things they did on the remake, this is just dumb. If anyone's wondering, in the original, the temple implodes when someone interacts with the altar so someone/something needed to spring the trap and die in the process.
@@nekogamer2508Not really. Cloud acts like an asshole because he believes that's how a Soldier 1st class would act but he also doesn't know it's due to the Jenova cells that are mixing with Zack's personality with the idea of how he believes 1st classes act like that
But this is also due to how easily weak Cloud is but as well as insecure that he's an easy target for Sephiroth but that doesn't mean he's controlling Cloud personality wise but with the manipulation from Sephiroth, he does act like an asshole (as seen when he almost killed Elena and etc.)
@@holitronYou trying to say you felt something during his sacrifice in the og? With how scummy he acted before that part, threatened to hold Marlene hostage, I can't fathom that as possible
@@holitronglad I'm not the only one. I just played this part, and was curious what others thought. I thought it was kinda weird how it was handled, but surprised ppl prefer this version. The og was way better for me personally, like I was genuinely sad when he tripped. Also, he came outta nowhere in this version, but if I recall he was in ur party the entire time in the og so it felt less abrupt. Just in general, the og explained the whole thing with the black materia better
Cait Sith's sacrifice is a lot more epic here. I love it!
No shit Sherlock, a 97 in game scene is worst then a cutscene of 2024. Oh God… 😢
@@lorenzopiscosi9566I could say that about the whole game but it feels like it’s illegal to say anything bad about the game on the internet
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I will. The original FF7 is the most overrated game next to Smash Melee and has aged the worst out of the 3D FF games.
@@AceUkiyoGeatsIX it’s so refreshing to hear another person be objective about it. I never played the og before so I don’t have nostalgia goggles for it and for me the remakes are objectively better in every way
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I've actually played a few Final Fantasy games before starting FF7. Its plot is mostly a rehash of 6. So I don't have the same nostalgia goggles everyone else does either.
IMO FFV, FFVI ,FFVIII, FFX, XII and XVI and Tactics are superior game over the OG FFVII. That rest I find to either be a boring slog without cheat codes or broken strats, too full of awful anime cliches(like the FFIV collection) or haven't played yet.(like FFX-2 & FFXIV)
Gotta say this whole side of Cait Sith's story was handled much better here, first off no taking Marlene hostage which really hurt this redeeming moment. Second even though this is a new body it's still clearly the same Cait Sith and he apologizes to everyone as well. All in all this made him so much more likeable and I'm glad for it.
He also gave you the equipment back which explains how you can have his gear at the end despite being crushed, but also makes him seem less scummy.
I love how much of a trash human being cloud is when sephiroth gets a hold of him.
i mean, he is Sephiroth's puppet after all
Well, everyone would be that way if Sephiroth could control them. Even Aerith isn't an exception. He can't mind control her because she's too strong for it but if he did...
@@КонстантинПаршуков-о6б No, Sephiroth can only manipulate people who possess his cells, and Cloud, like Zach, is an incomplete Sephiroth Clone.
@@deathbykonami5487 you can tell when people just typing for fun appreciate the facts
Reminds me of Spider-Man when he gets the black suit
Ngl, when Cloud turns toward Aerith while holding the Black Materia...
"The Ring is mine."
Cait Sith is a remote-controlled bot.
The OG Cait Sith said: "There plenty of him around, but there is only one me" means Cait Sith not only a remote-controlled bot, but also a conscious one.
Rebirth before Cait Sith Death, "You did what you could, the rest is up to them." Maybe the controller talking to the now conscious Cait Sith
New Cait Sith controlled by the same person, but maybe not the same as previous Cait Sith.
He meant one cat. There are 100 Toys R Us moogles. But this cat is more or less like Red 13 but since magic and fairy’s are a big theme with this character
Nobody really has any fucking idea how he’s alive. Also Red is very identical to a canine but CAIT the cat isn’t like a cat at all. More like a grown man con artist Casino dealer trapped in anthropomorphic cat. It’s funny I bet the moogle subconsciously hates him lmao
@@georocks3810 The cat is a robot controlled by Reeve. This isn't just knowledge from the original, a copy is on his desk in a cutscene.
@@Sianostrakarenrenren I know in the original reeve controls cait sith but I like the idea more where he was created by reeve as a sentient AI constantly learning and growing
@@Sianostrakarenrenren Nope. It's Cait Sith artificial intelligence becoming Sentient beyond the control of reeves.
*THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT, THE GOOOOAAAAT!*
this was so well done
3:00 this is proof a good soundtrack can elevate a scene so much
Ladies and gentlemen:
Cait Sith
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0:08 Let this be another moment where he literally Clouded it. TFS fans, IYKYK
This scene almost had me in tears
Cait Sith looks like my cat ❤
mine too 😂 ❤
@@almilall that's awesome ❤❤
The og version was more tragic as Cait Sith 1 was presented as being a unique being from Cait Sith 2. Here its more like a copy paste onto a new body.
Haven't played the og in awhile but what was the difference between both the Cait siths?
Yeah kinda hard to pull that off considering everyone knows what Cait Sith is. But I'll take this version over the og any day way more character development.
@@johngoldfield6602it was just something he said before he died really. In the OG, caith sith said that there was only 1 caith sith, and even of there’s plenty of him out there, he was the only one and if ever there’s another caith sith to replace him, dont forget him. That gave the players the idea that the new one that came after his sacrifice was a new one with copy paste personality and looks but the real caith sith who became independent died in that temple.
Each Cath sith were unique in OG. It was mentioned by him at some part
You are all wrong. OG was better cuz, it was suppose to reeves controlling them. But this particular one gained SENTIENCE. Remake just has shiny graphics and looks closer to a Disney avengers movie or Netflix show.
Damn Cat holding like he holding the sector 7 plate...
Too soon?
less "too soon"and feels more "that's what they were going for". giving reeve some redemption after being unable to stop the sector 7th plate from falling, this time keeping it in place long enough for everyone to get out safely.
They could have expanded on the few seconds that you understand that cait sith is mic more than a stuffed toy and had sentience. It looks good but damn. They missed that thoughtful part.
Not a big FF7 fan (always preferred 9) and I know Sith is just a robot, but this is getting me all worked up 😢
I also like 9 more than 7, final fantasy 9 fans we up!!
It's ok to, because in the OG Caith Sith have extra dialouge which implied he gained his own soul at the last moment before his death. Which is why he asked them not to forget about him.
Fist of the north star reference
can you play as Cait Sith after he dies ?
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Yes, the same way as the original VII, Cait Sith dies at the temple, in Rebirth they even show the scene of the temple crushing his body, but he's immediately replaced by another one.
So you can play as Cait Sith no.2 after the first died, and I don't think there's differeces in them in gameplay, just a different body.
yes. he comes back rebuilt since he is a toy. immeditly afterwards in fact
The Cait Siths are robots with A.I. controlled by a Shinra executive (no name becauae spoilers) who eventually turns on Shinra. Theory is that the first Cait Sith developed self awareness and made the decision to sacrifice itself as penance for their betrayal of the party with its controller accepting its choice.
The controller probably downloaded its memories into the second Cait Sith but since the second one has yet to develop self awareness, it reacted to the party with its programmed personality, hence the moodkiller when it goes "oh, I'm fine" after we saw the first one's death.
PLAY THE GAME!
Geez how strong is Cait Sith. 8o
Also this sacrifice was better and more sad than the original 8o
What's up with Red's voice?
It's his real voice. The adult voice is him pretending to be mature to intimidate others
Luxu stole his body
This sacrifice is so sad.... if only there was something else they could have used to keep the tablet from going down. If only they had an extendable staff or prosthetic arm gun. Why weren't there even rocks around at all! Such a tragedy!
Seriously, though, as much as I love a lot of the things they did on the remake, this is just dumb. If anyone's wondering, in the original, the temple implodes when someone interacts with the altar so someone/something needed to spring the trap and die in the process.
Lmao, cloud is an asshole in this 2nd part
Blame him being a clone of sephiroth so he is Abel to be controlled by sephiroth
Nah he’s not a clone essentially he’s a failed attempt at creating one.
@@nekogamer2508Not really. Cloud acts like an asshole because he believes that's how a Soldier 1st class would act but he also doesn't know it's due to the Jenova cells that are mixing with Zack's personality with the idea of how he believes 1st classes act like that
But this is also due to how easily weak Cloud is but as well as insecure that he's an easy target for Sephiroth but that doesn't mean he's controlling Cloud personality wise but with the manipulation from Sephiroth, he does act like an asshole (as seen when he almost killed Elena and etc.)
@@lucia066 redemption will come in part 3
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Original is so much betterzz
To you mate and maybe many others but to a lot of people like myself as well, this version is WAY better than the original
How so most of the characters barely got any character development especially Cait Sith everyone hates his character in the og.
@@nelieltu9730 this scene is a lot less emotional than the original. I felt nothing from this
@@holitronYou trying to say you felt something during his sacrifice in the og? With how scummy he acted before that part, threatened to hold Marlene hostage, I can't fathom that as possible
@@holitronglad I'm not the only one. I just played this part, and was curious what others thought. I thought it was kinda weird how it was handled, but surprised ppl prefer this version. The og was way better for me personally, like I was genuinely sad when he tripped. Also, he came outta nowhere in this version, but if I recall he was in ur party the entire time in the og so it felt less abrupt. Just in general, the og explained the whole thing with the black materia better