LOKI Season 2 Episode 4 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Easter Eggs, Trailer Theories & Review

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  • @heavyspoilers
    @heavyspoilers  Год назад +39

    Let us know your thoughts below on the episode and check out our breakdown of *Gen V Episode 7* - ruclips.net/video/K0muqfpsmS8/видео.html

    • @Aapelikaapeli
      @Aapelikaapeli Год назад +3

      R.I.P VIctor 🙏

    • @joshseraphim3902
      @joshseraphim3902 Год назад +1

      Apparently beast is supposed to show up in The Marvels post credit scene. Hoping that’s the case. More multiverse films connecting IM PRAYING. Also if you search up venom 3 cast, Andrew Garfield shows up so IMAGINE. This episode just makes sense since all the timelines would be colliding if this episode ending is canon

    • @jacksonconley5117
      @jacksonconley5117 Год назад +3

      This might be the best episode of not just this season, but the whole series. But that’s just my opinion.

    • @mexi_nation552
      @mexi_nation552 Год назад +1

      Do you think that since the safety protocols went down in the TVA, they could've used the infinity stones that we saw in season 1? Perhaps could've used the time stone to help them out.

    • @Smurfis
      @Smurfis Год назад

      I think the machines are realistically a nod at Bioshock and how you used to be able to genetically modify yourself with beverages. As deadpool is also going TVA when incursions begin

  • @jbeast313
    @jbeast313 Год назад +1221

    It was absolutely terrifying watching Ms. Minutes smile while she watches Dox and her crew get turned into Jelly. This season is incredible

    • @kevthepoet
      @kevthepoet Год назад +48

      Miss Minutes absolutely fd me up!

    • @andrewfraserjr
      @andrewfraserjr Год назад +32

      Yeah that shit was messed up

    • @Growvloggiepolkadots
      @Growvloggiepolkadots Год назад +40

      What about to victor I have to tell you a very important thign …she bedazzzled and said you will never be him 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @theandrogynousmisogynist
      @theandrogynousmisogynist Год назад

      Incredibly stupid lol

    • @jbeast313
      @jbeast313 Год назад +27

      @@Growvloggiepolkadotsshe’s an absolute menace. She must be stopped 😂

  • @MadameWesker
    @MadameWesker Год назад +661

    I loved the "we are gods" line.
    Loki learning to take responsibility.

    • @johndevin1193
      @johndevin1193 Год назад +16

      can be taken as arrogancy... but i feel like he already lost it since he saw the stones that were used as paperweight.

    • @ahronthegreat
      @ahronthegreat Год назад +8

      ‪I think victor time slipped to the 31st century he will become he who remains because of that remember he said “a variant from the 31st century” and wasn’t it the same affect as when lokj time slipped victor will refine his tech I think and become HWR / The conquerer that’s why the timeline boomed because he who remains rise just started‬ and this is the true start of the multiversal war and chaos

    • @aitheking66
      @aitheking66 Год назад +4

      He may be worthy

    • @goofysmp
      @goofysmp Год назад +13

      @@johndevin1193 I feel like he’s said it before in an arrogant way. He said it to Silvie as in to just accept who they are and that they have the responsibility to protect those people.
      It’s shown how he now thinks this way talking about Thors first time on Earth

    • @cschwacofer
      @cschwacofer Год назад +2

      ​@@goofysmpthis is exactly it

  • @MrRichieRides
    @MrRichieRides Год назад +175

    As soon as the ending happened all I could do was think of Loki saying “I promise you this will make sense” and honestly that got me excited I haven’t felt this tuned in to a marvel project in a awhile so I’m excited!

    • @wisnubekti1062
      @wisnubekti1062 Год назад +3

      loki was always has been a bullshitter after all

    • @ahronthegreat
      @ahronthegreat Год назад +3

      ‪I think victor time slipped to the 31st century he will become he who remains because of that remember he said “a variant from the 31st century” and wasn’t it the same affect as when lokj time slipped victor will refine his tech I think and become HWR / The conquerer that’s why the timeline boomed because he who remains rise just started‬ and this is the true start of the multiversal war and chaos

    • @MrLuvHaters
      @MrLuvHaters Год назад +1

      ⁠​⁠@@ahronthegreatsorry to break it to you, but that most definitely wasn’t time slipping…

    • @ahronthegreat
      @ahronthegreat Год назад

      @@MrLuvHaters irdc 🤓🤓🤓🤣

    • @poxy.sukesuke
      @poxy.sukesuke Год назад

      mad@@ahronthegreat

  • @DalekCaanOfSkaro
    @DalekCaanOfSkaro Год назад +247

    That scene with Dox and her crew was horrific, Marvel has been getting really good at the horror elements recently, but that shook me. Hearing the dripping afterwards and screaming just terrified me. The compactor machine was cool, but i thought it would only stay as a thing to scare Brad in ep 2, but to see it put into use and be successful was horrific. That was amazing to see Marvel takes leaps in their horror

  • @vica1n
    @vica1n Год назад +436

    I really can’t believe they massacred my boy like that. He was full of confidence 💔

    • @olioco
      @olioco Год назад +23

      Bruh… it wasn’t funny … but hilarious at the same time

    • @yourmom6888
      @yourmom6888 Год назад +14

      @@olioco was not funny you're just weird

    • @heatherfeather7199
      @heatherfeather7199 Год назад +14

      “Time to be brave.”
      😭😭😭

    • @OnePressMan
      @OnePressMan Год назад +13

      @@yourmom6888Yeah it wasn’t funny, it was f’n hilarious. I was thinking to myself “damn ms min told him he wouldn’t be him, but look at him now being brav-“ & then he got disintegrated ☠️

    • @JrueThrondsen
      @JrueThrondsen Год назад +1

      This is why you DON'T be a hero. 😅

  • @jacksonconley5117
    @jacksonconley5117 Год назад +161

    This felt like the season finale. Now it feels like a bonus we’re getting two more episodes. After seeing this episode, I have no idea what’s going to happen in the final two episodes.

    • @luisguterres7747
      @luisguterres7747 Год назад +7

      right? they are really taking advantage of the weekly release to build up our curiosity. freaking love it

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell Год назад +3

      They’re going to give Loki some actual godly *POWER* maybe?

  • @Robross888
    @Robross888 Год назад +675

    Kinda feel bad for victor tbh

    • @cruzjacknife8699
      @cruzjacknife8699 Год назад +84

      Same. Dude became spaghetti

    • @SAPANNow
      @SAPANNow Год назад +1

      He's pretending. He's already He Who Remains. That's my prediction.

    • @outtaideas6974
      @outtaideas6974 Год назад +49

      He could've been good

    • @shanzhi3184
      @shanzhi3184 Год назад +19

      @@Fusion_4000this! I would totally buy this.

    • @chelsearunyan
      @chelsearunyan Год назад +10

      I don’t think he’s gone. We’ll most definitely be see again. I think it’ll be the season finale.

  • @joshuaalhassan4798
    @joshuaalhassan4798 Год назад +482

    Every single time I watch this show I just become more amazed by the captivating work of marvel. It’s incredible honestly

  •  Год назад +165

    I'm speechless, I expected many things to happen and instead everything I never imagined happened. SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!

    • @ahronthegreat
      @ahronthegreat Год назад +1

      ‪I think victor time slipped to the 31st century he will become he who remains because of that remember he said “a variant from the 31st century” and wasn’t it the same affect as when lokj time slipped victor will refine his tech I think and become HWR / The conquerer that’s why the timeline boomed because he who remains rise just started‬ and this is the true start of the multiversal war and chaos

  • @ImNotArthurMorgan
    @ImNotArthurMorgan Год назад +166

    Seeing mobius getting yelled at and also seeing how scared he was when the loom blew up made me feel bad for him

    • @ColorMeConfused29
      @ColorMeConfused29 Год назад +16

      Loki's eyes were welling up. I'm disappointed he didn't reach for Sylvie, but they were too far apart, I guess. Great acting.

    • @Equilibriumshift
      @Equilibriumshift Год назад +13

      ​@@ColorMeConfused29I feel like part of the reason he cried is the fact that I think Lokis ultimate plan is to just go back to his time warn his people about Kang and see his brother once more.

    • @shanemcguire5347
      @shanemcguire5347 Год назад +2

      I know right I'm really invested in Mobius story I really like his character I really want to know why he's scared to check on his life on the timeline

    • @ahronthegreat
      @ahronthegreat Год назад +1

      ‪I think victor time slipped to the 31st century he will become he who remains because of that remember he said “a variant from the 31st century” and wasn’t it the same affect as when lokj time slipped victor will refine his tech I think and become HWR / The conquerer that’s why the timeline boomed because he who remains rise just started‬ and this is the true start of the multiversal war and chaos

  • @challiray
    @challiray Год назад +119

    People don't seem to get that part of the danger of Kang is that it doesn't matter how many times you kill him... he is inevitable.

    • @ahronthegreat
      @ahronthegreat Год назад +3

      ‪I think victor time slipped to the 31st century he will become he who remains because of that remember he said “a variant from the 31st century” and wasn’t it the same affect as when lokj time slipped victor will refine his tech I think and become HWR / The conquerer that’s why the timeline boomed because he who remains rise just started‬ and this is the true start of the multiversal war and chaos

    • @ICU1337
      @ICU1337 Год назад +4

      Hmm. I remember a guy who used that inevitable word🤔I dont recall it working out so well for him in the end though🤷🏽‍♂
      That being said, I still dont see what makes Kang so scary in comparison to Thanos. Marvel is failing badly at this point.

    • @Polaris0w0
      @Polaris0w0 Год назад +10

      I think marvel is conditioning us to seeing Kang fail for when someone like Kang Prime shows up

    • @alexneff
      @alexneff Год назад +1

      That's Thanos

    • @cubedone199
      @cubedone199 Год назад +2

      Na thanos is inevitable but nice try

  • @dietcoke6492
    @dietcoke6492 Год назад +34

    The thing I love about Loki is just when you think the stakes cant get any higher, and the show can't get any more intense, they throw a massive curveball at you and ramp the stakes and intensity up by a thousand.

  • @DevinLaye
    @DevinLaye Год назад +70

    I love how Loki's dialog sounds like the scene when he was explaining love. It's like he is trying to convince people he is telling the truth, they even pointed it out when Victor said "That didn't sound as reassuring as you hoped it would"

  • @thatonereply
    @thatonereply Год назад +58

    My jaw dropped. And my heart sunk. Like wow. What an amazing episode

  • @heatherfyffe3618
    @heatherfyffe3618 Год назад +60

    My theory: Victor being spaghettified *while near the loom* -- the loom that was *overloaded with multiversal timelines* -- means he didn't just die. Little bits of him got spread through all the branches. Those little bits of Victor cause all the Kang variants.
    So he himself is also an Ouroborous - he created himself by sacrificing himself.
    And He Who Remains knew that would have to happen, so he wrote the script to ensure that it would -- sending the TVA Guidebook to Victor, programming the blast doors to respond only to his aura. Maybe he even inserted a message into the scanner, as it scanned him it whispered "it has to be you, it has to be me".
    Now I know that all the other characters have variants in other timelines, they don't need to be scattered via spaghetti to exist elsewhere. So my theory is that maybe there are beings who are special, who are singular. For whatever reason, I don't know. But in any case, in Kang's case, his variants were born from his spaghettification.

    • @d2beej
      @d2beej Год назад +3

      My thoughts exactly. Mainly cuz I want the Ant Man version of Kang back lol

    • @marcoscorpas2752
      @marcoscorpas2752 Год назад

      Great theory. There's probably something to it.

    • @JTraversy3
      @JTraversy3 Год назад +2

      best theory ive heard and i can absolutely see this being the case, victor timely was a con man and probably knew somehow this would happen

    • @DZ_Mania_2024
      @DZ_Mania_2024 Год назад +1

      @@d2beejmight be apart of it. This send him back to the 31st century. He becomes Kang the Conqueror. Ant Man beats him. Sends him to the Beyond where he gets the Beyonder’s powers. He gets them all to battle the other Kang’s who pose the threat somehow. He’s installed to protect the timeline. Cycle continues.

    • @wisnubekti1062
      @wisnubekti1062 Год назад

      there is an obvious mistake in your theory. spaghetti wont become a person again in the new universe

  • @SenatorLeiaOrganaSolo
    @SenatorLeiaOrganaSolo Год назад +30

    Genuinely my mouth is still on the floor. Like this season just keeps getting better! HOLY SHIT

  • @luigi_border
    @luigi_border Год назад +44

    AMAZING EPISODE! Perfect blend of character driven story,( they reach their extreme point, such as miss minutes) mingled with high stakes plot. Surprising ending and even a little funny. True marvel

  • @leakl3479
    @leakl3479 Год назад +14

    This episode was absolutely incredible in every single way.... how terrifingly evil Renslayer and Miss Minutes became, Brad just corrupted by his will to live on the timeline, Sylvie understanding Loki's motives and understanding she needs to have some faith, getting ready to trust him again and restoring their bond... and I am so excited what will happen next, it could be everything.

  • @Salsgarageadventures
    @Salsgarageadventures Год назад +15

    Literally just finished watching the episode... how are you so quick on these!!!!

    • @earthy1175
      @earthy1175 Год назад +3

      A lot of reviewers and bloggers got the first 4 episodes early

  • @pointnclick22
    @pointnclick22 Год назад +70

    This episode was truly fantastic. Like emmy worthy in my opinion. Sophia di martino’s acting and the cinematography during the scene where sylvie is shaming mobius for wanting pie was absolutely phenomenal. As was the scene of brad watching as dox and her team got brutally crushed to death. Marvel has been missing the mark on the vast majority of things for quite a while now but loki is not one of those things.

    • @theAstarrr
      @theAstarrr Год назад +3

      And the end went from "We've got a chance" with inspirational music to "Oh no we lost" to "Oh boy everything is ruined/terrible/spooky now" real quick

  • @crispyoop3980
    @crispyoop3980 Год назад +115

    I feel like it's going to send everyone in the TVA back to their nexus event, then we can see why Sylvi was brought in, loki can see Thor, and mobius can ride a boat

    • @kevthepoet
      @kevthepoet Год назад +2

      Jetski ;-)

    • @kevthepoet
      @kevthepoet Год назад

      Jetski ;-)

    • @brandonalvarez5598
      @brandonalvarez5598 Год назад +5

      well silvie wanted to be a hero that's her event

    • @jacksonconley5117
      @jacksonconley5117 Год назад +3

      Mmm good prediction, let’s see if you’re right and I’m kind of hoping you’re right.

    • @wisnubekti1062
      @wisnubekti1062 Год назад +4

      Good theory. they will spend an entire episode on that. then there is a cliffhanger where they start to think, that there is something wrong with their universe

  • @SdeHe-qb9gc
    @SdeHe-qb9gc Год назад +117

    I swear Loki and Spider-Man have to be sore from carrying the entire MCU on their backs.

    • @tesean8765
      @tesean8765 Год назад

      They be doing it like a religion to be fair

    • @blt4life112
      @blt4life112 Год назад

      None of it would make sense without the other movies and shows.

    • @theAstarrr
      @theAstarrr Год назад

      @@blt4life112 they meant to say, doing like 90% of the carrying for phases 4 and afterward, so far

    • @Collect2Disconnect
      @Collect2Disconnect Год назад

      Spider-Man NWH was trash brother the best part was the end where they decide to soft reboot him

    • @SdeHe-qb9gc
      @SdeHe-qb9gc Год назад

      @@Collect2Disconnect you forgot to add in your opinion. Most people including myself genuinely liked it and its my personal opinion that it is the best movie since endgame.

  • @aitheking66
    @aitheking66 Год назад +25

    I'm so impressed with the creativity of this show. I just love how Victor split himself across time in the ending.

    • @heatherfeather7199
      @heatherfeather7199 Год назад +10

      Miss Minutes: “You’ll never be him.”
      Victor Timely: “Well, one strand of noodle might be.”

    • @evandera6368
      @evandera6368 Год назад +5

      Is that how we get the different versions of Kang??

    • @JrueThrondsen
      @JrueThrondsen Год назад +1

      ​@@evandera6368 yes

    • @aitheking66
      @aitheking66 Год назад +1

      @@evandera6368 yes

  • @TheA6surdNerdz
    @TheA6surdNerdz Год назад +1

    FML Loki is MILES ahead of every other MCU show and it's not close.

  • @kermitbq
    @kermitbq Год назад +45

    Loki can now use the infinity stones with the safety mechanism turned off…. Get the time stone and reverse time! (If he knows how to do it like Dr Strange)

    • @mathiasfrandsen5468
      @mathiasfrandsen5468 Год назад +4

      holy shit that would be nice!

    • @lubu5950
      @lubu5950 Год назад +3

      Exactly what I thought! I think Loki at the last scene took out the time stone and returned to a point to try out other strategies before the failure

    • @jordanrussell5249
      @jordanrussell5249 Год назад +4

      @@lubu5950 this is actually a valid theory holy

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell Год назад +1

      Nah. Just get them *ALL* and finally have some powers worthy of a *GOD!*

  • @RealAndySkibba
    @RealAndySkibba Год назад +38

    Great episode and crazy fast breakdown!

    • @bust0ne
      @bust0ne Год назад +3

      The media got the first 4 episodes together. Starting next week they'll be watching it at the same time we do so the breakdowns will be later

    • @RealAndySkibba
      @RealAndySkibba Год назад +2

      @@bust0ne oh yeah. He's still usually pretty fast

  • @vagabond8460
    @vagabond8460 Год назад +65

    I think the answer lies in the fact that future Loki pruned old Loki and he was sent back to his time. Time slipping was never established as a thing that was over, either. There’s something else happening for sure

    • @ColorMeConfused29
      @ColorMeConfused29 Год назад +16

      Maybe time slipping became a thing because of the loom exploding.

    • @wisnubekti1062
      @wisnubekti1062 Год назад +2

      that scene is confusing

    • @ICU1337
      @ICU1337 Год назад

      This is the only possible way that Loki can prune himself but they still havent shown it yet...

    • @beezybaby1289
      @beezybaby1289 Год назад

      @@ColorMeConfused29that’s makes sense

  • @Invalidcookie-bv4cx
    @Invalidcookie-bv4cx Год назад +36

    Loki pruned himself again, back to the past. So now there is a version of Loki that is back in episode 2.
    I think the issue is, they turned off Miss MInutes. they need to try again but leave her on.

    • @11Elevon
      @11Elevon Год назад

      damn
      @Tellebee

    • @mathiasfrandsen5468
      @mathiasfrandsen5468 Год назад +3

      i think maybe he run downstairs to get the infini stones and use the time stone@Tellebee

    • @BeskarDevil
      @BeskarDevil Год назад +1

      @@mathiasfrandsen5468if they use time stones as paperweights AND they have the potential to fix the TVA, no way it wouldn’t be one of the first things Loki thought kf

    • @galacticreviewer
      @galacticreviewer Год назад

      @Tellebee🤔🤔🤔

    • @Invalidcookie-bv4cx
      @Invalidcookie-bv4cx Год назад +1

      @Tellebee Timely also was not wearing the same suit as mobius. The Tape is missing.
      🤔 was that suit defective? did it have a hole it in on the helmet?

  • @Mentski
    @Mentski Год назад +8

    I think we're still watching a bootstrap paradox in action, but one far bigger than most people are thinking. Everything we've seen so far was MEANT to happen.
    - Ouroboros builds the TVA for He who remains using Victor Timely's notes.
    - The result is using the Temporal Loom to create one single "sacred" timeline. That He who Remains kept in check.
    - He Who Remains is eventually killed by Sylvie, The Temporal Loom cannot contain the extra timelines.
    - As a failsafe, Miss Minutes tells Renslayer to leave a TVA book with Timely as a child.
    - Timely grows up studying the handbook. Is taken back to the TVA to fix the loom.
    - Decides to do it himself, enters the timestream, and is spaghettified (and here's the bit...) that spaghettification SEEDS the entire multiverse with Kang variants across time.
    - The Loom explodes, the multiverse is unleashed in full, uncontrolled.
    - All the Kangs created during the explosion conduct a time war, He Who Remains is victorious.
    - He Who Remains gives Timely's notes to Ouroboros.
    - Repeat step one.
    Notes: By the look of the conversation with Renslayer at the end of time, it appears that he won the time war with the aid of a proto-TVA using the variants as soldiers, before mindwiping them, possibly many times, so the creation of the temporal loom may have been the reason HWR actually wins in the first place, which obviously means he gave the notes to Ouroboros BEFORE winning, but the bootstrap loop is still sound. Remember that the Sacred Timeline was circular around the big rock at the end of time.
    Essentially, as that is a loop, and that the TVA exists "outside of time", it means the Multiverse exists and doesn't exist at the same time. My head hurts.

  • @Alexza1980
    @Alexza1980 Год назад +8

    This breakdown is my weekly pleasure!! What would I do without your channel Paul!! 🤗

  • @BangTanPrettiNikki
    @BangTanPrettiNikki Год назад +5

    Such an amazing episode. Thanks Paul you’re the goat.

  • @ThatGirlJackie84
    @ThatGirlJackie84 Год назад +84

    So Ravona got pruned & went into the void. What if, she’s the one who actually showed He Who Remains how to use Eliath to win the multiversal war? He said he figured it out but what if it was really her.
    They win the war, build the tva & everything happens all over again 🤔

    • @delmarfrazier2727
      @delmarfrazier2727 Год назад

      He said a scientist

    • @TerakRaines8940
      @TerakRaines8940 Год назад +4

      I think that either she finds Alioth at some point. And that’s what gives her variant the win. And I think this is why she was so crucial to ending the multiversal war.
      My second theory is that Ant-Man Kang gets sucked down to a smaller quantum realm where he discovers it himself. And I almost feel like this one is the one I’m leaning toward. But I like your thought.

    • @ThatGirlJackie84
      @ThatGirlJackie84 Год назад +4

      @@TerakRaines8940 same! BUT, victor timely will still be somewhere b/c he teaches OB… victor, Kang, & he who remains may all be the same person.

    • @TerakRaines8940
      @TerakRaines8940 Год назад +2

      @@ThatGirlJackie84 I believe that the victor we know was never destined to be HWR. Because he is from a branched timeline. If HWR, at the end of time, we’re to prune his own timeline he wouldn’t exist. It would be a paradox. Because his timeline was pruned. So the real Victor that becomes He Who Remains has to be this same Victor, but from the sacred timeline. It’s sacred because HWR deems it so.
      If I was HWR, I would do everything in my power to ensure that I survive by protecting my own timeline.

    • @vinyei93
      @vinyei93 Год назад +2

      ​@@TerakRaines8940
      When there is a multiverse, there is no sacred timeline
      HWR chose his timeline as the sacred one, because that is the timeline, where he exists, not a bad variant of him.
      So when he won, he isolated the one he has, and "made" it the sacred one
      If we allowe time to branch, the sacred timeline by definition, does not exist. If you pick one from the millions and billions, and prune every other, that one "becomes" the sacred.

  • @crazylegssw
    @crazylegssw Год назад +8

    A huge Easter Egg you missed was OB's presentation of the model and his problem with the scale. Almost word for word to what Doc Brown said in Back to the Future. Even the paint part.

  • @ProdByDzul
    @ProdByDzul Год назад +15

    This season is carrying the McU haven’t felt this way since multiverse of madness / Wanda vision. Great cliffhangers.

  • @NoonMight
    @NoonMight Год назад +29

    It’s not a paradox because he who remains and victor were on two different branches. It’d be like if person A gave person B a book, instead of person A giving person A a book in the past.

    • @mrshaheedmalik
      @mrshaheedmalik Год назад +1

      Spiral Grandfather paradox. The same thing happened on Agents of Shield.

    • @danielpacheco4821
      @danielpacheco4821 Год назад

      Spiral hotmilf paradox

    • @prasektinanda8824
      @prasektinanda8824 Год назад +1

      Who cares, you made me confused

    • @mrcead
      @mrcead Год назад

      It's a figure 8 paradox. TV doesn't write stories about them because they're hella confusing, jumping from one branch to another branch then back to the beginning of the first branch to end up on the other branch and so on. Doctor Who novels are full of them

  • @santiagobotero5488
    @santiagobotero5488 Год назад +18

    How do you manage to get the videos ready so quickly? I love it!!

    • @evanrushing7495
      @evanrushing7495 Год назад +6

      He’s already seen the episodes probably

    • @saint105x3
      @saint105x3 Год назад +1

      He's watched before hand

    • @whistlerwade
      @whistlerwade Год назад +1

      He literally said how in the video.

  • @JoelKellenProductions
    @JoelKellenProductions Год назад +40

    This is the first time in the show I actually was surprised, what with how Victor turned out

    • @devv197
      @devv197 Год назад +4

      Honestly I didn’t think they would go through with crushing those people. Kinda dark for the show.

    • @heatherfeather7199
      @heatherfeather7199 Год назад

      @@devv197
      Yeah… that group death scene was pretty brutal. I’ve also noticed that in this second season the word “shit” is being tossed around at least once or twice per episode, while in season one it was only said once by Sylvie. There’s ton more swearing.
      The show is becoming surprisingly more mature than expected.

  • @TrlllyToys
    @TrlllyToys Год назад +36

    I think that the ending was the moment the Multiverse really became a possibility. Like all of previous films are officially canon. Which coincides with Kevin Feige stating that everything is canon. The explosion at the end simply just lifted all restrictions on time allowing everything to be possible.

  • @A..D..D
    @A..D..D Год назад +55

    I noticed the Jurassic park “ ah-ah-ah “ line also a back to the future reference in which OB says the model isn’t to scale. Looks like victor got into a probability storm and was shredded just like Ant-Man . I think Loki or someone somehow sends a message to a younger self , or because the probability storm they are in a cycle and it should be Loki who goes . He said “ I don’t know “ . Weird . Also what’s up with pie and hot cocoa .

    • @JahanVijeh
      @JahanVijeh Год назад +2

      That “ah ah ah” from Jurassic Park will forever be etched in my brain lol

    • @blindmanai6957
      @blindmanai6957 Год назад

      ​@@JahanVijeh you didn't say the magic word....

    • @ICU1337
      @ICU1337 Год назад

      Nice catch on the _Back to the Future_ reference 👏🏽👍🏽

  • @craigfernandes531
    @craigfernandes531 Год назад +2

    I was actually speechless at the end. Had to take 10 mins before moving on to gen V and even then, I couldn't get this episode of Loki out of my mind. Absolutely insane, some of the best television I've ever seen.

  • @The-Fergusons
    @The-Fergusons Год назад +53

    Soooooo…I definitely didn’t expect the ending.

  • @domblue
    @domblue Год назад +17

    I can’t get over how Victor was literally ripped to strands, reminds me when Wanda did the same to Reed and how much pain he was in. Of course Victor’s had to be worse because first his skin went, then muscles, then bones and everything else. He felt all of that and it’s just terrible to think about..

    • @maciekgutkowski8075
      @maciekgutkowski8075 Год назад

      The thing is he might have known his sacrificial act might lead to the rise of his variants existing and coming to power in hundreds of universes. I'm just not sure that I trust that he was ever doing anything for the greater good but always doing everything for the good of him and his variants.

    • @EM92401
      @EM92401 Год назад

      @@maciekgutkowski8075 Gotta remember that marvel movies are a product aimed at younger audiences, they’re not doing all that

  • @theAstarrr
    @theAstarrr Год назад +8

    HOLY EPISODE 4. That was AMAZING. I haven't been absolutely floored and shocked in a LONG TIME. I already loved Loki, but WOW. He pruned himself from episode 1 (so cool btw, I knew someone had to prune him). And that spooky ending....just wow.

    • @chelsearunyan
      @chelsearunyan Год назад +1

      I KNEW IT😊 I knew it was future Loki😊 but the ending😮 I didn’t see that coming.

  • @mikeyj7824
    @mikeyj7824 Год назад +1

    That first access denied was a nod to jurassic Park, but its also talking to the audience directly because it's perfectly framed to block our view of where everybody had just got crushed into the floor.

  • @kevthepoet
    @kevthepoet Год назад +3

    That ending was absolutely mental.

  • @Lapeacemaker
    @Lapeacemaker Год назад +6

    Calling it now Jonathan mayor will win an Oscar with a marvel movie either kang dynasty or secret wars ! The guy is just on another level of acting 😮😮

  • @ICU1337
    @ICU1337 Год назад +3

    I'm just hoping this breakdown explains how Loki pruned Loki when its not possible. When I saw that happen in E1 my immediate thoughts were, "Theres no way Loki can prune himself, so when they loop back to this point, it better not be Loki..."

  • @domblue
    @domblue Год назад +4

    I just stared at my screen with utter disbelief and shock. That ending...wow...Where has this kind of Marvel content been?!

  • @neekos3084
    @neekos3084 Год назад +5

    22:31 It's totally thought that the guy on the other end of the phone was gonna be either a renslayer or miss minute, did not expect OB

  • @sammydubbya
    @sammydubbya Год назад +16

    I’ll get to this right after I’m finished with the episode. Love your breakdowns!

  • @mr781mass9
    @mr781mass9 Год назад +31

    I love how last seasons episode 5 was about The Void & now we’re back there this season! Makes me wonder if we’ll get another big moment in the finale...
    Btw, You guys think Timely volunteered heroically or intentionally, with something bigger in mind? Just makes me wonder why He Who Remains would make Timely apart of his plan, if it was destined to fail.

    • @DZ_Mania_2024
      @DZ_Mania_2024 Год назад +2

      I think it builds to the origin story. So when he becomes string cheese, it’s blue, purple, and green. It almost transforms him. My guess he teleports to the 31st century. Events cycle through. He finds his variants and the war starts. He makes the chair the Kang identity because he needs to stop it. He runs into the Lang family, gets sent to Battle World to become the Beyonder….oroborous

    • @beatzbydri
      @beatzbydri Год назад

      Right? The way Timely perked up and asked abt the Hot Chocolate machine made me suspicious… almost like he was told that *should* happen.

  • @Tired_Guy.
    @Tired_Guy. Год назад +82

    I think Victor will come back, I don’t think they would introduce him then kill him off immediately. He has such great potential.

    • @chelsearunyan
      @chelsearunyan Год назад +7

      I once heard someone say that Jonathan Major will be in 3 episodes. So I don’t think this will be the last time we’ll be seeing Victor.

    • @ColorMeConfused29
      @ColorMeConfused29 Год назад +2

      He's billed as a "special guest star". That means he's not in every episode. Cobi Smulders was billed like that in Secret Invasion.

    • @Peacemaker2024-A9T
      @Peacemaker2024-A9T Год назад

      Nah, he is dead!

    • @jonathan4646
      @jonathan4646 Год назад +11

      @@chelsearunyanyeah we’ll see Jonathan majors again, but not as Victor timely 😳

    • @maciekgutkowski8075
      @maciekgutkowski8075 Год назад +1

      @@jonathan4646 I think you're right ... I think we'll see Prime Kang (so the one the Avengers will have to fight in the Kang Dynasty movie) in episode 6 or a Post Credit scene after episode 6.

  • @Fire_Crystal
    @Fire_Crystal Год назад +10

    This episode gave me an irrational fear of being spaghettified

  • @alexanderdumas-
    @alexanderdumas- Год назад +15

    We are watching a snake eat it’s own head at the end of this episode. Watching the end of the TVA means we are about to see it’s beginnings. It could have been it was Loki who took Mobius off the timeline originally and set them on the path that lead them here.

  • @TheKrypticX
    @TheKrypticX Год назад +1

    Bro, that Dox in a Box joke was lowkey SAVAGE

  • @187mrsmith
    @187mrsmith Год назад +8

    You gotta have respect for dox cus she genuinely was doing what she thought was in the best interests of the TVA she didn't have altered dark motives When B15 came to her respectfully they understood each other and then realized maybe this new TVA is worth saving an protecting if they can fix it before its 2 late unfortunately ren slayer didn't give her that option an brad being the coward sell out he's been he went with ren slayer an closed his eyes while miss minutes killed them all!

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell Год назад

      Why did she want to destroy all of the branches in the second episode though?

  • @kylecarter1599
    @kylecarter1599 Год назад +17

    What an epic episode. Loki talking to Sylvie felt like Tom Hiddleston telling the fans it's gonna get better for the MCU.

  • @dylanbordner6168
    @dylanbordner6168 Год назад +1

    Hello, great video like usual! Id like to clear up th point of view on the "chocolate soup" if possible. I believe the machine is stating that all items dispersed are "hot and fresh" then goes on to list the products, coffee, chocolate, and soup (excluding the tea option). So its not offerimg "chocolate soup" its offering hot fresh coffee, hot fresh chocolate, and hot fresh soup. The machine is obviously super interesting though due to Timely's interest in it and its ability to reconnect him with renslayer in his final moments. Anyway, I hope that clears up any chocolate soup references because I dont think it is refering to a chocolate soup at all, but its just how the display and wording appear.

  • @michaelasilva99
    @michaelasilva99 Год назад +10

    What an episode …. Again you are on point as always literally just finished the ep lol

  • @lauracoles5595
    @lauracoles5595 Год назад +1

    What. An. Episode. Finally marvel has high stakes again.

  • @kog8952
    @kog8952 Год назад +16

    I find the whole wave of death coming to kill people very chilling in movies, there's almost a what's the point of panicking feeling in those moments being sad or mad won't change anything, it always brings me back to the movie Sunshine as the heat of the sun starts coming over the shield and Kanada closes his eyes in acceptance, that scene still sends chills down my spine.

  • @MattPerk7
    @MattPerk7 Год назад

    I appreciate you being abundantly clear about when you were starting to talk about the trailer. I always really enjoy watching your breakdowns but I don't think I've ever been as interested in not being spoiled for the next episode as I am right now so this allowed me to know where to duck out. Thank you.

  • @SdeHe-qb9gc
    @SdeHe-qb9gc Год назад +16

    That "we are gods" line was cold af

    • @ColorMeConfused29
      @ColorMeConfused29 Год назад +1

      I liked it. I think he used it to remind Sylvie of who she is. Fear has driven her for so long, she has forgotten WHO she is and how powerful she truly can be.

  • @autisuna8725
    @autisuna8725 Год назад +2

    I just noticed Sylvie wears an ankh earring which is a symbol for the Egyptian gods representing life, which represents what Sylvia is, a god for the preservation of all the lives on the timelines.

  • @ColorMeConfused29
    @ColorMeConfused29 Год назад +6

    One thing I didn't hear you mention was the prototype. It's a miniature of the device in Quantumania. The one Scott had to go into.
    Also, if Sylvie had the master temp pad, wouldn't it supersede all of Miss Minutes antics in the TVA?

    • @DZ_Mania_2024
      @DZ_Mania_2024 Год назад

      Only if Timely’s signature was detected…maybe he built a fail safe :)

  • @Jack-jj4vi
    @Jack-jj4vi Год назад +1

    Your breakdown always the one making most sense!!

  • @187mrsmith
    @187mrsmith Год назад +6

    He who remains obviously seen this coming that's why once loki let victor timely go he all but sealed there fate

  • @domblue
    @domblue Год назад +2

    The darkest, bleakest thing marvel has ever done. Absolutely INCREDIBLE television

  • @callmev3531
    @callmev3531 Год назад +9

    1:46, This shows take on the bootstrap paradox is somewhat different than others, as it combines the concept with the timeline branching concept and the fact that both new versions of the same timeline appear to replace ones that are destroyed and that the TVA exists on its own kind of timeline separate from any other. He Who Remains isn’t interacting with his own past or any other variants that have any connection to him because the iteration of the multiverse he’s from was destroyed eons ago from his perspective, making Victor Timely and all the other Nathaniel Richards in this currently developing multiverse essentially clones (which makes their realities clones as well, like a how regenerating an appendage replaces it with an identical copy) of the ones from the previous iteration of the multiverse He Who Remains originated from.
    This also makes the loop of the TVA and Multiversal War eras less of a time loop and more of a carefully constructed machine that is able to remain moving because of He Who Remain’s eons of strategy, however it doesn’t necessarily guarantee his victory as if one part of his plan falls through, the “loop” can be broken and the machine will crumble.
    12:34, This also applies to wether O.B. or Nathaniel gifted knowledge to the other first, since this Victor is a completely new version of Nathaniel that only recently came into existence from O.B.’s perspective as someone who lives in a dimension outside of normal time.
    16:42, By this point, Loki may have taken some more time to see further down his mainstream counterparts path beyond just the segments he was shown in the first episode and the glimpse of Ragnarok he viewed on the file. The likelihood of him wanting to do so is high considering he still longs for his family even if he may never get to reunite or reconcile with them now that he’s been removed from his timeline.
    24:52, Her being in the trailers shows she at least isn’t immediately killed once she appears in the void. Wether or not Alioth dissolves her on sight (as his presence is hinted with the purple light and stormy clouds above Ravonna in the scene where she’s in the void) remains to be seen.

    • @theAstarrr
      @theAstarrr Год назад +2

      Of course, Loki is only able to prune himself because he survives to prune himself...so they also do the traditional one.

    • @callmev3531
      @callmev3531 Год назад +1

      ⁠@@theAstarrrYeah, and it seems that only in dimensions like the TVA where time works differently can this kind of time travel (essentially warping reality by interacting with the past) happen.

  • @boizen
    @boizen Год назад +1

    Its nice to have a marvel show/movie that makes you feel that everything is at stake. The last time i felt such goosebumps was when Thanos snapped.

  • @Marvelousgamer7697
    @Marvelousgamer7697 Год назад +18

    This episode was absolutely phenomenal! I was actually left speechless! Loki is on another level for Marvel TV! 10/10!

  • @mattgriffinreal
    @mattgriffinreal Год назад +49

    As Paul and Greg said on the podcast, this could have been an amazing season-ender. I don't know how Marvel Studios will top this in the next episode, but I have a feeling that a new character will be introduced to set things up for other Multiverse Saga storylines. (Hoping for another mutant soon.)

    • @normalgirlcvco
      @normalgirlcvco Год назад +21

      This being an ending??? We had to wait 2 years for the second season, I dont think we could haddle that level of cliffhanger 😂

    • @danielpacheco4821
      @danielpacheco4821 Год назад +4

      There won't be any mutants in Loki

    • @prasektinanda8824
      @prasektinanda8824 Год назад

      ​@@normalgirlcvconeed more 7 episodes

  • @chillskellyton1508
    @chillskellyton1508 Год назад +10

    That ending horrified me

  • @alifpr
    @alifpr Год назад +1

    The correlation with Dark was something I thought of too. I remember finishing the third season in the middle of lockdown and I headed straight to RUclips to watch videos of it including yours because my brain couldn't comprehend what was going on, good times. 😅

  • @MarvelManiaccc
    @MarvelManiaccc Год назад +42

    I feel bad for Victor tbh, he was probably one of the funniest characters in the show

    • @gtdc4685
      @gtdc4685 Год назад +1

      RIP

    • @chelsearunyan
      @chelsearunyan Год назад +3

      I don’t think this will be the last time we’ll be seeing Victor. I think we’ll be seeing him again in the season finale.

    • @Sticksmoney426
      @Sticksmoney426 Год назад

      Victor is gonna be alive Loki have to go out there instead of him

  • @Hdub8526
    @Hdub8526 Год назад +4

    I was screaming yes! and jumping up and down when they pruned rennslayer when I thought they weren’t actually going to do it

  • @ethannape2699
    @ethannape2699 Год назад +5

    Victor’s death was absolutely brutal. If you pay attention you can see his skin and muscle get ripped off his bones and then his bare skeleton is just there for a split second. I can’t believe they did my boy like that 😢

  • @obediahhinton1890
    @obediahhinton1890 Год назад +1

    Absolutely shocking, mind shattering, dark, confusing episode. What a season! What a show!

  • @matthewboire6843
    @matthewboire6843 Год назад +14

    This was an absolutely incredible episode and seeing Loki prune him self was so cool! Seeing victor getting spaghettified was an absolutely incredible twist and I haven’t seen anything nearly as cool as that in Avery Long time

    • @ICU1337
      @ICU1337 Год назад +2

      I'm still trying to figure out how Loki can prune himself... Its temporarily not possible from where I'm sitting🧐

    • @matthewboire6843
      @matthewboire6843 Год назад

      @@ICU1337 the Loki from episode 1 was brought to the future that Is episode 4 and the Loki live in episode 4 pruned the Loki episode 1 Loki and that somehow caused him to go back to episode 1 witch from his prospective is his present.

    • @ICU1337
      @ICU1337 Год назад

      @@matthewboire6843 the first problem is, there is only 1 Loki. With all the "time skipping", theres still only 1 Loki.
      The second problem is, the Loki that needs to self-prune is on the future most present Loki. There are no Lokis in the time ahead of him or before him.
      So if theres only 1 Loki and he's the future most Loki, how can he self-prune himself...
      Your own explanation, as I understand it and forgive me if I missed something, leaves out the critical detail that when Loki time skips he takes all the Lokis with him to his current place in time.

    • @matthewboire6843
      @matthewboire6843 Год назад

      @@ICU1337 I think that when he time skips he doesn’t take take other Loki with him so for some time there is no Loki in a given time

  • @Hyperfixations_here
    @Hyperfixations_here Год назад +2

    5:22
    I thought at the time it was the timelines being destroyed, but Now I see it.
    Also, Marvel is filled with geniuses. How could anyone make such an amazing show?
    Ms. Minutes smiling while Dox died was honestly the most unsettling part of the show.

  • @hardstarboardradio
    @hardstarboardradio Год назад +3

    The Bootstrap Paradox is still in play. The most likely out is that Loki unwittingly time-jumped backwards at that final moment before the blast wave hit, learning that he has the ability to trigger it himself. Since he knows that letting Timely go out to fix the loom won't work, he's now confirmed that he's the one who has to fix the loom since, as a Frost Giant, he's far more durable than any of the humans. And since the suit didn't protect Timely in the slightest, that explains why Loki is unprotected when he goes out on the platform in the trailer footage.
    He Who Remains knew all of this, of course, because he was Victor Timely and thus saw it all at the front end of his worldline.
    Man, I love good time travel stories. This one verges on great.

    • @mrcead
      @mrcead Год назад

      Agree but with the Timely and He Who Remains roles reversed. Timely understood the assignment. He Who Remains started the bootstrap paradox to break the paradox Timely put him in the first time around. He Who Remains was sick of keeping the plates spinning and so he reached out and branched Timely off his course by giving him his calculations much earlier than what happened

  • @ScottieRippen
    @ScottieRippen Год назад +1

    OB had a really great Back to the Future reference when he quotes Doc Brown showing off the model of the loom & how it was built to scale & but didn't have time to paint everything.

  • @ryanwilliams4561
    @ryanwilliams4561 Год назад +36

    Did anyone catch Casey sneaking off with the machine? I feel like he sabotaged the mission and is the dark horse villain.

    • @acsingleton1
      @acsingleton1 Год назад +8

      I did! I was wondering if he was gonna the machine or something

    • @matthewbeavers7692
      @matthewbeavers7692 Год назад +7

      I thought he was gonna be a G and start going towards the loom

    • @rock215FL
      @rock215FL Год назад

      When dis that happen

    • @Kaizarsose
      @Kaizarsose Год назад

      @@matthewbeavers7692😂

    • @jonnycashh3876
      @jonnycashh3876 Год назад

      Yea I seen that too …that was an awkward shot

  • @gaper1287
    @gaper1287 Год назад +1

    Dark is such a great show, I watched your breakdowns on them and I love that we can draw connections between that show and marvel now. Gettin into some trippy shit I just hope they can handle it and make it digestible while not contradicting themselves

  • @maryhigginsy
    @maryhigginsy Год назад +73

    Now we’re getting into that Loki trailer where Loki kept saying “okay let me explain it again. Let’s try again” and it seemed like he was fixing something over and over and over… unless I dreamed that preview 😂🤣😂🤣

    • @earthy1175
      @earthy1175 Год назад +9

      Yes! I remember that trailer preview

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell Год назад

      @@earthy1175”Alright. Again.” “Here we go. Again.”

  • @lukahmad5683
    @lukahmad5683 Год назад +5

    This feels like Infinity War back in 2018. This episode is crazy AF! Feel bad for Victor :(

  • @scarletfever1389
    @scarletfever1389 Год назад +3

    Probably the best written show Marvel has delivered. Just wow.

  • @DCYTB
    @DCYTB Год назад +1

    Loki is the savior of the MCU right now. It’s clear that this show isn’t designed for younger audiences (based on the fun language and funky time travel shenanigans) so they’re really allowed to take chances. Also the score is the best since the avengers one

  • @TheManInTheRedHat
    @TheManInTheRedHat Год назад +6

    I am SO SUSPICIOUS of OB.... something ain't right y'all. I can't explain it. But the idea that they got their memories wiped but OB retained his and was stuck in the basement for eternity and the fact that Victor Timely and OB didn't understand WHO actually created the manual. SOMETHING AINT RIGHT LOL

  • @rewaboy7394
    @rewaboy7394 Год назад +1

    Love the Marvel Universe from India ❤

  • @thirtysixchambers6990
    @thirtysixchambers6990 Год назад +6

    The Loki at the end of the episode is the one at the beginning, the one who time slips... The book is always the key, and I think they have to pass a message to OB without involving Victor Timely. Every time they fail, the Loki is pruned at the elevator. I also think Mobius is the one to fix things, like he did earlier, and Loki has to go through the entire loop to save him. It seems like episodes go forward then backwards, like TENET. Ep 1,2 go forward, Ep 3, 4 go both ways, with 4 being the point where the snake starts eating its own tail, then Ep 5 and 6 will go back towards Ep 1. I felt Ep 1 and 2 felt jumbled and rushed, but maybe that was because they ensured pieces were missing. Pieces that will be added in the last 2 episodes for the complete picture to make sense. The TVA is not outside time as we thought, and even Mobius was shocked when he found out Loki was time slipping. I'm still convinced this Loki ends up there from our Ep 4 ending. I'm sorry. I'm mumbling.

  • @richardmturner1983
    @richardmturner1983 Год назад +1

    Ouroboros is a variant of Doctor Emmett Brown. That's why he complains on the model not being to scale and painted right.

  • @187mrsmith
    @187mrsmith Год назад +4

    I really like how this episode was more dark and mature like how most of the Good Comics was This 1 spared no 1s feelings They basically shook the fan 2 the core while taking them 4 a roller coaster ride I was pleasantly surprised they was able to get all that in 1 episode

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell Год назад

      I’m liking how Loki himself is more mature.

  • @The_Ex1Le
    @The_Ex1Le Год назад

    This just keeps getting better and better!

  • @darthgamer9468
    @darthgamer9468 Год назад +7

    This episode was incredible, especially the conversation between Loki and Sylvie in the pie room. Peak dialogue writing there!

  • @dillongroenewald7227
    @dillongroenewald7227 Год назад

    Loved the breakdown once again, Loki consistently keeping me on the edge of my seat. Miss your full "Theory time" intros though... :(

  • @RacesnReps
    @RacesnReps Год назад +5

    Yo that ending just blew my mind

  • @ItsJustDreux
    @ItsJustDreux Год назад +1

    The best episode love it so much Loki is the best MCU show and probably the most important out of all had me nervous for real wondering what’s next

  • @GSal6
    @GSal6 Год назад +13

    Ya not gunna lie, episode 3 and 4, especially 4 are the best episodes of a marvel show I have ever seen.

    • @chelsearunyan
      @chelsearunyan Год назад

      Episode 3 in my opinion was the worst one. But episode 4 man😮 what a major cliffhanger.